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Welcome to Classic Skeptic Metaphysicians! We're re-releasing some of our back catalog so that these gems can be re-discovered!

This week: Mastering Astral Projection: Are You Ready?

In this classic episode of the Skeptic Metaphysicians, hosts Will and Karen delve into the world of astral projection with special guest Florentine Ionita, an astral projection teacher and explorer. They discuss what astral projection is, the benefits of leaving your body, and how to do it step by step. Florentine Ionita shares his expertise and introduces his Astral Projection Accelerator Program, a systematic training methodology that has helped hundreds of students achieve out of body experiences. 

Have you ever been told to just clear your mind and trust the process to achieve astral projection without any real guidance or strategy? If so, you know the frustration of putting in time and effort and not seeing results. Learn how to overcome fear and start to experience astral projection with proper mindset and techniques in this episode.

In this episode, you will also be able to: Discover astral projection's contribution to spiritual evolution and enhancing personal growth. Identify distinctions between dreams and astral projection experiences. Tackle fears and barriers on your astral projection journey. Master practical techniques to accomplish astral projection effectively. Address concerns about negative entities during astral projection experiences.

Guest Info: (Note: this is a re-broadcast and the links may no longer be active)
Website: https://www.elasticperception.com
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/florentin_perception
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/flowrentino
YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCAM7No-wGiXYX35woEUSP_w
IMDB: https://www.imdb.com/name/nm2885495/?ref_=fn_al_nm_1

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Karen, let's test your knowledge of will. Oh boy, what

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is the number one thing I've always wanted to do?

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Astro project?

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Astral project? That's right?

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That and eat unlimited cake.

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Oh, we need to get someone about cake. No.

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No, this one's about astral projection. It's that all elusive

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skill set that I've been trying to gain forever. Well,

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I think today we're going to solve it.

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Whoa, Yep.

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This episode is all about astral projection. What is it really?

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What are the benefits of leaving your body? And most

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of all, how.

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To do it? Step by step?

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Yep, We're diving into the easiest way to master out

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of the body travel. Welcome to another episode of the

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Skeptic Metaphysicians. My name is Will and I'm garous, and

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unlike Boulder and Scully, both want to believe. So we've

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embarked in a journey of discovery.

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Welcome to Skeptic Medicians Classic. You are listening to the

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Classic Skeptic Metaphysicians. Welcome to our version of her walkdown

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Memory Lane as we present classics from the Skeptic met

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Physician Library, warts and all.

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Well, today's story is.

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Called the Blind Girl. There was a blind girl who

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hated herself purely for the fact that she was blind.

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The only person that she didn't hate was her loving boyfriend,

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as he was always there for her. She said that

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if she could only see the world, she would marry him.

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One day, someone donated a pair of eyes to her,

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and now she could see everything, including her boyfriend. So

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her boyfriend dropped to one knee and asked her, now

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that you can see the world, will you marry me.

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The girl was shocked when she saw that her boyfriend

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was blind too, and she refused to marry him.

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Well.

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The boyfriend walked away in tears and later wrote her

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a letter saying, I understand, Please just take care of

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my eyes.

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Dear.

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I won't even give you the moral of this story.

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I'm sure the message is loud and clear. Hey everyone,

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I'm will We are your guides of this journey of discovery.

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Today we've got a special treat. Florentine Eonita is an

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astral projection teacher and explorer who has created the world's

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most complete astral projection program, the Astral Projection Accelerator Program.

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He's helped hundreds of students achieve out of by experiences

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with the help of this systematic training methodology, and I

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could not be more excited to talk to him today. Florentine,

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thanks for being on show. Hello, Hello, thanks to thank

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you for having me. So We've got a lot to

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talk about, and I know Karen's going to tell you

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that I can talk about this stuff forever. So I'm

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going to try to keep it as concise as I

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can and let you speak for a little bit. But first,

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let's set the table so that everyone is on the

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same page. Astral projection out of body experiences, what exactly

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is it. There's a lot of misconceptions out there, right,

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so let's put some of those misconceptions to rest.

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Okay, great, So that's a good price to start, because

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there is a lot of misconceptions. So the first one

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is the idea that we are leaving our bodies and

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that our body is going to be empty, and that

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someone's going to take over the body maybe or something's

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gonna happen to their body, and there's a fear there,

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maybe that we're not able to come back if we

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travel somewhere. There's all this whole idea of sep from

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the body kind of thing. And although it feels like

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we are moving away from the body, that we're leaving

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the body in a strained way when we're doing it.

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I think the truth is more like, we are not

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in our bodies in the first place. Our consciousness is

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not in our brain. Our consciousness is beyond this dimension

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in the first place, and it's projecting itself to our

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physical body, to a human experience. And then when we

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have to project, it's basically our consciousness projecting itself somewhere

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else in a different reality. That would be where ass

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projection is. So you can also be in multiple plays

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at the same time. So you can be occupying your

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physical body while you're doing this practice, aware of the

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physical body, and at the same time you can be

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aware of a complete different reality as well. You can

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have multiple parallel projections.

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So so if someone coming into this topic cold, you

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just dropped about fifteen bombs.

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Now that sounds exist.

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In less than two minutes. So let's take it back

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for a second. You mentioned that the consciousness does not

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reside in the body. That you're talking of course about

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the theory that our consciousness is not developed by a brain,

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but rather it lives outside of our brain, and our

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brain is actually just a filter that allows us to

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live in this three dimensional body. It's a super interesting

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thought and one that I've talked about and thought about

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a lot, because the thought of projecting our consciousness into

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our bodies to the use of our brains is intriguing

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and it opens up a lot of possibilities in the

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quantum realm. If this resonates with you, then this conversation

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is going to be easy one for you. If it

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doesn't resonate with you, then we have got some work

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to do. If they're first and foremo so, then you

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are also talked about being in multiple places at one time.

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At that point, now you're talking about the fact that

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we are an infinite being. Also, the quantum physics thought

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that there is no time, that all time is happening simultaneously,

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so that could be something along those lines. So trying

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to catch up those that aren't as versed in some

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of these concepts. If someone doesn't resonate with some of

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these concepts, for lack of a better word, is astra

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projection completely out of bounds for them?

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No h So there's like two different beliefs that you

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can have with this. You can believe that, like I

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was just saying before that consciousness is beyond the body,

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beyond the brain, and you can therefore trouble to different

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realities that are outside of you. Or you can believe

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that consciousness is in your brain and that everything that's

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happening to you is always in your in your mind,

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in your imagination, and that's all. That's okay. You can

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have that belief, and you can still ask the project.

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You can still have these experiences and now you can

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kind of make what you want out of it. You

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can still you can believe that, oh, that was just

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some type of dream or that was happening in my mind.

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It's okay. You could have that belief, and I think

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a lot of people do have that belief in the beginning.

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I think it's healthy to have the belief of maybe

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this is all just the illusion or a dream or

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imagination and whatever. And then you know, you have that belief,

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you have that skeptic kind of mindset, but you still

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have an open mindset with that because you are willing

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to try this out for yourself. To start with the practice,

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you start doing the actual work and you start having experiences,

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and then through that journey of experience, you start to

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shift your belief system, you start to have experiences that

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maybe you won't be able to explain with that theory

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that it's all in your mind, because maybe you will

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have an experience where you see something outside of your room,

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maybe your neighbor's room, that you have never seen before,

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and then you go out in the physical the next

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day you check out the roof and you see actually

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the same thing. You know, things like this happen all

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the time, or that people go to people's houses and

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they overhear conversation and they can come back and recall

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exactly what happened. Tell that brand I saw you having

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this conversation with this person in these clothes. Is that true? Like, yes,

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that's that happened. And those are those kind of confirmations,

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personal confirmations that then take your experience, your perception of

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reality to another level where you start to expand what

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you believe is true about this reality and about yourself

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and about the universe. And it's kind of the whole

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purpose of this is to take you on that journey

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of truth where you start to unravel more of what

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reality is and what you are and what is going on.

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And so it's totally okay to have that belief in

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the beginning that everything is happening out here, it's totally okay.

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One of the main questions I guess from people when

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it comes to this topic is why why would you

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do this? Why would you leave your body and go

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into different dimensions? And what's the point? Like iasy like

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for you and for you, you didn't. You didn't actually

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ask me that question because it's so clear to you

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why And I wanted to ask you why. Why do

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you want to ask the project? Why do you think

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this is something that you would That's a great question

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for me. It's a way of validating that this stuff

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is all real. So in the show Open you'll hear

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we talk about the fact that we're like Molder and Schully,

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we really want to believe. But I'm the kind of

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mindset that I have to feel it. I have to

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sense it, taste it, touch it. Right, I've got to

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know it's real before I can just full on believe it.

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And I got that when it became a Reikie practitioner.

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I did feel these energies, which then led me to think, Okay,

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if this is real, then there's boundary other things out

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there that are real as well, but it's eluding me.

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So I figured if I can ask for project and

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if it as real as you're saying, like as palpable,

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as it's not a dream state kind of real, then

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that is going to prove without a shadow of doubt

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for me that this stuff is real. So that's really

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that's my why, That's why I've always wanted to ask

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to project. So for you is confirmation that this stuff

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is real, correct, And it's very much the same for me.

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I'm very much like you, like I need to have

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the experience to believe something a conscious like believe in everything.

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That's kind of the whole purpose with afterprojection specifically, it's like,

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don't believe what people tell you, don't read books about

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all kinds of stuff. Go ahead and just have the

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experience yourself. Learn how to do it, find out for yourself,

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because the difference between believing something and knowing something experiencing

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something is massive, It's completely different territory. There's one thing

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to believe that you might continue after physical death, there

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might be an afterlife, your uncle, that I might be

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somewhere out there, and knowing through experience a difficult different

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state of mind, right, so you know, think about how

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that would feel to have that knowing through your personal experience.

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So it's a it's a very different experience as a

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and if someone was motivated like I am about confirmation.

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I think you alluded to earlier that there are certain

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benefits to astral projection. Can you share some of those

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with us? Yes? So, to me, asks projection is a

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tool for spiritual evolution. It's a it's a tool to

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discover your spiritual essence. And I think when you are

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in the spiritual community and you learn about these different

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topics and you find out that, oh, you are not

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a physical body, human being, you're something more, You're something

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beyond this, the question comes up, like then what what

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am I? What am I more than this? And how

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can I like experience this? And this will be the

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way to experience this. And you can experience this stuff

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with psychedelics. It can take different substances, but that's a

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completely different thing, and it's usually maybe a bit more intense,

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and not many people already ready for that. This stuff

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is very smooth, you know. It's like I said before,

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you you will take it to places that you're ready for,

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So it just smooths the journey that you can go

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on and start finding about finding out about your essence,

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who you are, where you are, about the universe. And

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it's also a tool to connect with somebody that has

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passed away, that has basically left from this physical realm

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and gone into different realm. You can connect with them.

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And we have students that do that all the time.

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And I mean seeing a students that had lost their

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loved one connecting with them in the astrol and then

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having the talk with them afterwards and seeing how happy

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they are and how like you know, it's it's it's

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amazing because there's such a healing experience built to talk

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to somebody that you love that you you think you've lost,

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but then you find out that you haven't lost them.

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to connect with somebody like that. And then of course

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is the connecting with spiritual guides is a which is

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a big one as well. Many people want to connect

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with their spiritual guides that knows everything about them and

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get guidance on their life and what to do that

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wants to it called Ashwin. He found out his life's

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purpose with the help of his guides and this is

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one of those super important things to do, which is

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one of those keystones things that you want to do

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as well, Like you want to connect your spiritual guide

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to get guidance, to get help to navigate the astral

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because you want know where to go that you will

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know they can help you. It seems like a no

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brainer to me.

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That's more of my motivation. I don't need the proof

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because I do believe it, but I feel like it's

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something we're supposed to do to become more and that's

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what that's what I want.

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will get to the point where they do this regularly.

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Is this part of our spiritual evolution? Then I really

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believe that. I really believe that this is what we're

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supposed to do to evolve our consciousness constantly, and I

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understand what we are and what we are not and

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understand the true, the truth about this reality. Right So

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that's kind of alter what it is about, understanding the

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bigger picture, and with that comes great, great peace, great healing,

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great I mean, the more I think for you guys too,

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the more you find out, the more kind of amazed

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you be about what's happening, and the more the more

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loves comes from that, from knowing the bigger truth. And

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so I think it's definitely a part of our evolution

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to go on this journey of truths and expansion.

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So you said that some people might think, well, was

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that a dream? So kind of take expanding on that.

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Sometimes when you sleep, you have these dreams that are

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just incredible and seem incredibly vivid, like you are right there,

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I mean, could you be I guess while you're sleeping

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as for projecting and not on accident, but like not

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inten doing it. But is it something that could just happen.

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Yes, that's something that happens actually to like ten percent

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of the population. People have these spontaneous out about experiences

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and for the most part they shreak out because they

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don't know what's happening. And it's very scary if you

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don't know that this is possible to start leaving your body.

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Might you might think you're dying, You might you know,

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I think something weird is happening. And then also it

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happens a lot in our sleep. When we're sleeping, we

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have more unconscious experiences. For the most part, we might

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not remember them, or you might remember some pieces, maybe

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that we are flying and we saw a village or something,

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but we come back from that experience and always kind

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of disregarded to be a dream, but sometimes could actually

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be something more than a dream. But I think the

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best way to do this is to describe what is it?

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There was the difference between a dream, and then ask

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projection because of the you know, the lines are kind

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of blurry. Yeah.

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In fact, I was going to ask if someone's freaking

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out because they do this in this and suddenly they

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freak feel they're dying. It must feel different because that's

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always been my big thing, Right, is it me just

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dreaming or using my imagination and feeling like I'm leaving

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my body? Like does it feel other physical sensations when

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you leave your body? Do you feel the wind whistling

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through your hair as you're lying through the night or

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is it really just a mental projection?

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so real. They don't even know that they're I mean,

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they don't even know that they're out of body. A

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lot of times I have students when they go out

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of body, they actually think there are standing in their

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room physically, and so they they leave their body and

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they're like, oh, oh, I'm just I'm still physically standing

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in my room. Everything looks the same. They go back

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to bed, and then they wake up and then they realize,

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oh my god, that I was out of body just now.

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But it was so real that I thought it was

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physical reality. Okay, So it's that level of realism, and

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sometimes people report that it's even more real than their

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physical experiences.

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Definitely encouraging to me because you talk to people and

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they're like, oh, it's just like it's like just like

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it's in your imagination. And to me, it's kind of

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a compout if I'm not feeling it, but I if

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I don't feel something different, it feels like I'm not

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really astro projecting. So I'm hearing from you that it

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is indeed feels like you are physically somewhere else.

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Yeah, it's it's insane. It's it's really insane. Like I mean,

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when you it's only when you have the first time

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that you can just like grasp what would just what

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just happened? Because it's I remember for me when I

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heard this as well, I was also a bit skeptic.

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I was also thinking, hmmm, maybe these guys, these people

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just imagining these things, because I would go to different retreats,

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to different workshops, meitation workshops, and I always meet these

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people that they always had this very interesting stuff happening

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for them. When they're closing their eyes, they all kinds

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of stuff, and I was like, nah, I don't see anything.

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It's just I'm just I'm not even Yeah, nothing is happening.

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And I was always wondering if these people are just

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kind of making things up or they're just measuring things. Yeah,

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because people so it wasn't stuff around all the time,

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Oh yeah, when I left my body or it's such

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a buzzword. It's like everyone in this space is talking

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about astro projection or leave out of body experiences, like

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just throwing around like if it was hotcakes. But that's

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what makes someone like me who's been struggling trying hard

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to do it for so long, get super frustrating and thinking, no,

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you guys are full of crap. This is not it

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can't be real. So yeah, totally, I mean that's exactly

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what happens if you tried for a while and then

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don't get very far. Then you know you're you're going

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to have all kinds of stories that you're going to

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tell yourself, like this is not real, or maybe you're

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going to have the limiting belief that I had, which is,

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I'm not gifted enough to do this. I don't have

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the ability to do this. This is for special people.

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This is for someone that has meditary for ten years exactly,

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and I'm not one of those people. So a lot

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of things can come like that, and that can also

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become a limiting belief which blocks you from actually being

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able to do it, because now you're creating a belief

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system around it that you cannot do it, which is

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not helping you. So it's but yeah, it's the moment

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that you have the experience is the moment that you

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truly go, Okay, this is possible, and the experience is

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extremely real. It's it's very physical and you you can

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feel things, you can touch things with your hands, you

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can smell things, you can see things, you can hear things.

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Sometimes you're hearing can be so and halls that you

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can hear things that are really really far away from

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the room that you're practicing in. Like for example, if

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I practice, if I do the practice in a city

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like London, I would be I can get into a

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state where I start hearing conversations of lots of different

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conversations taking place, as if there's like people sitting in

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my room. And in the beginning, a lot of times

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I actually got confused. I actually thought someone walked into

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my room, and so I took off my headphones and

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looked around, like, what's happening here? Is someone's coming into

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my room? There's nobody there, but it's so clear. The

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sound is so clear. And if I do it in

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a place that's like just nature around the area, I

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can hear birds and the river creaking, and like the

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sounds that will be in that environment I hear very

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clearly as if they're next to me. So it's very

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very interesting how our senses when we get into these states,

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get very heightened beyond the physical possibility that we have

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with our physical senses.

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That's interesting because sometimes when I dream, I can I

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can smell things, or I can taste things. I just

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thought that was normal dreaming, And I don't know, will

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do you smell and taste in your dreams? I never

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asked you that.

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I don't think I ever have No, I don't smell

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or taste or I mean hear things.

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But well you got to hear things well, but well in.

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A dream, i'm more.

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I'm it's more less less hearing it more seeing it

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in my mind, Like I know that they're someone saying something,

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but it's not like auditory really Yeah, yeah, I mean

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I don't I don't think. At the same time, I

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also don't remember my dreams a lot. Very seldom do

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I remember my dreams, so.

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Like when you have a dream that you're flying, you

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don't feel it.

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Like the only dreams I've had have been and it's

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it's been a very long time since I had one

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of them is falling. I've had dreams I've been falling

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and that has been really unnerving. Yeah, yeah, really unnerving.

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And now that I think about it, Florentine, could that

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have been an astral travel in my dreams? I mean

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it feels like you feel, you know, when you are

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on a roller coaster and you go down one of

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those the drops and you feel in your stomach. It

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kind of felt like that, believe it or not, in

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the dream?

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Is that?

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Could that possibly have been a projection?

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Yeah? So I wanted to do this before as well.

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It's to define what a dream would be, and I

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won't ask for it actually will be because they are

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cousins in a way. So the way I see it

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is that there are multiple dimensions and they have different

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quality or different purpose as well. And so to me,

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a dream is also a projection. Your consciousness is projecting

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itself into a reality, and you're now experiencing it as

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as it is your only reality in that moment. But

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the dream space, this dimension of the dream, we call

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it the mental plane. It's kind of like a mixture

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of everything that you know, you know, every everyone you meet.

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It's it's kind of your little simulated reality. You know,

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you might see a picture and then your dream about

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that thing that was on that picture, and your thoughts

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are very much blended with that reality, and it's changing.

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It's very kind of liquidy. You know, you can look

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at one direction, you see something, you look at the

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other one that when you look back that the whole

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seri is now changed. Two door changes to the window.

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It's not very solid. And usually in a dream, or

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you will have your child with friends, maybe your family,

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maybe lots of familiar characters might be in that experience,

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and then a lucid dream would just be the fact

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that you become lucid, You become aware in the dream

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that you are dreaming, and then you can just see

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it's where it is, you can see it. Oh, I'm

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in a dream. Now, I'm in a dream reality dream

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dimension now a master projection or an etheric projection, or

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there's this other dimension you go to. When you go

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to those places, they will be they'll have different a

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completely different There'll be a different environment. It will not

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be the environment of your own creation. There will be

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an environment where you're meeting more objective realities, places that

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are actually that exist but on a different frequency of reality,

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and there things usually are more solid. If you look,

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you see a building on the right, you look to left,

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we look back, the building is still there. And you

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cannot just change the environment as as you wish, like

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you can an a lucid dream where you can kind

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of change colors of the walls, or you can. You

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kind of have this power over that experience because it's

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your generated reality that you are experiencing. You are also

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creating that reality. Elucid dream and a dream, but an

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ass projection you occupying a place that's occupied by other

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consciousness beings as well, and you cannot just change things

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as you want. Things are more solid, and a lot

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of times when you project yourself to these places, you

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end up on a street maybe that's just completely empty,

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there's nobody there. You have to kind of look around

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to find something to do. It can be a bit

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empty in the beginning, and to find maybe so much

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talk to or to your figure out where you are.

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00:24:50.240 --> 00:24:52.759
It's a bit like you're just being dropped at in

465
00:24:52.839 --> 00:24:55.039
a you know, a different city, in a different world,

466
00:24:55.319 --> 00:24:58.319
or maybe in a forest or that you know, there's

467
00:24:58.599 --> 00:25:00.400
countless places to go? Is it?

468
00:25:00.480 --> 00:25:02.440
And you bring up a good point, all these places

469
00:25:02.440 --> 00:25:06.319
you go. We've heard that you can go to astral school.

470
00:25:06.400 --> 00:25:08.880
We've heard that you can talk to God. We've heard

471
00:25:08.920 --> 00:25:11.599
that you can see past loved ones. Is this just

472
00:25:11.640 --> 00:25:15.279
a traveling of the mind? Is it you can go anywhere?

473
00:25:15.440 --> 00:25:18.640
Or these are actual physical places that you go to,

474
00:25:18.960 --> 00:25:22.279
physical places there there are non physical places that you

475
00:25:22.359 --> 00:25:25.720
go to. Maybe you can also go to physical places

476
00:25:25.720 --> 00:25:29.279
as well. There will just be a different shift of frequency.

477
00:25:29.319 --> 00:25:32.440
But for the most part, when we leave our when

478
00:25:32.480 --> 00:25:35.559
we project our awareness out of our bodies or in

479
00:25:35.960 --> 00:25:41.319
different realms. We the frequency that our consciousness is in

480
00:25:41.319 --> 00:25:45.240
that in that state is it's usually a frequency that

481
00:25:45.279 --> 00:25:49.200
doesn't really it's harder to be it's it's harder to

482
00:25:49.200 --> 00:25:51.559
be in a physical dimension. So it's harder for somewhere

483
00:25:51.640 --> 00:25:55.680
to to get into this physical realm with a non

484
00:25:55.680 --> 00:25:57.880
physical body than there is for them to be in

485
00:25:57.920 --> 00:25:59.559
a non physical realm.

486
00:25:59.640 --> 00:26:00.000
I see.

487
00:26:00.079 --> 00:26:02.240
So it's not like I can go visit my daughter

488
00:26:02.319 --> 00:26:04.440
at school in astral form and just kind of sit

489
00:26:04.519 --> 00:26:06.599
and watch her in school, or yes.

490
00:26:07.160 --> 00:26:09.920
You can, you can, just saying that it's a bit

491
00:26:09.960 --> 00:26:13.920
more unnatural and a bit more difficult for you to

492
00:26:14.000 --> 00:26:16.359
do that versus to be in the astral which is

493
00:26:16.400 --> 00:26:19.119
like completely your natural environment to be in when you

494
00:26:19.200 --> 00:26:23.000
are in this form, in this set of consciousness.

495
00:26:23.400 --> 00:26:26.720
So in one of those environments, is everybody else else

496
00:26:26.799 --> 00:26:28.240
in there also astral projecting?

497
00:26:28.680 --> 00:26:34.599
Yeah, so you you might go for the most part

498
00:26:34.759 --> 00:26:36.839
of this is this is a hard question because there's

499
00:26:36.839 --> 00:26:39.359
so many ways that this could This could leave it

500
00:26:39.359 --> 00:26:42.119
to caring to ask the hard questions. But yeah, you

501
00:26:42.160 --> 00:26:46.039
could be uh, you know, traveling out of body and visits.

502
00:26:46.400 --> 00:26:49.680
So I would say like this, some people naturally, they're

503
00:26:50.079 --> 00:26:51.599
as soon as they're out of body, they're like in

504
00:26:51.640 --> 00:26:55.079
their flats, they're in their house, they're like looking around,

505
00:26:55.160 --> 00:26:58.279
they're going through the wall, going out their neighborhood. They're

506
00:26:58.319 --> 00:27:02.079
seeing things in their physical reality very easy, Like their

507
00:27:02.559 --> 00:27:05.200
energetic body has that kind of has that frequency that

508
00:27:05.240 --> 00:27:07.839
it's going to kind of drawn to the physical a lot,

509
00:27:07.920 --> 00:27:11.359
and it's very easy to to be there. While other

510
00:27:11.400 --> 00:27:13.839
explorers when they got a body, they always end up

511
00:27:13.839 --> 00:27:17.400
in a completely different reality. They're never in their surroundings,

512
00:27:17.440 --> 00:27:20.319
and it's kind of difficult for them to go to

513
00:27:20.440 --> 00:27:25.480
the physical world, so to speak. But you can go anywhere,

514
00:27:25.519 --> 00:27:27.680
like you know, you can train yourself to go to

515
00:27:27.720 --> 00:27:30.720
different places, and we have the ability to do both.

516
00:27:32.079 --> 00:27:34.000
I think a good way to think about it because

517
00:27:34.000 --> 00:27:36.200
we all have the Internet nowadays, so we understand how

518
00:27:36.240 --> 00:27:39.400
there's different websites on the Internet that you can access

519
00:27:39.440 --> 00:27:42.680
with your computer, and that there's a network that connects

520
00:27:42.720 --> 00:27:45.559
all of these websites. You can think about that in

521
00:27:45.599 --> 00:27:49.519
the same way with dimensions. You have multiple dimensions that

522
00:27:49.559 --> 00:27:52.799
there will be like same as a website, and then

523
00:27:52.839 --> 00:27:56.240
you have the network that connects the different websites, which

524
00:27:56.279 --> 00:28:00.000
is the quantum field which connects all these different dimension

525
00:28:00.839 --> 00:28:04.160
and then with your consciousness you're able to travel to

526
00:28:04.240 --> 00:28:10.640
this different websites or dimensions. And they're countless of them.

527
00:28:10.680 --> 00:28:12.599
I mean, I don't know if we didn't even know

528
00:28:12.640 --> 00:28:15.000
how many there are. There can be infinite amounts of

529
00:28:15.799 --> 00:28:18.920
different places to go to. And some of them are supervolves.

530
00:28:19.039 --> 00:28:21.240
You know, they're in the future. You know, they have

531
00:28:21.359 --> 00:28:26.319
like flying cars and technology we can understand. And others

532
00:28:26.519 --> 00:28:29.559
might be super like primitive and having an invented fire

533
00:28:29.640 --> 00:28:32.119
and they're kind of, you know, very confused, and ah,

534
00:28:32.319 --> 00:28:33.559
there's everything.

535
00:28:33.880 --> 00:28:38.359
Yeah, there are so many questions. I mean, so many questions.

536
00:28:38.440 --> 00:28:40.799
We are just getting started. When we come back, we

537
00:28:40.839 --> 00:28:42.920
gotta take a break. When we come back, we're going

538
00:28:42.960 --> 00:28:47.759
to start talking to Florentine about potential dangers with astral

539
00:28:47.799 --> 00:28:50.559
projection and then get into the n idea of how

540
00:28:50.680 --> 00:28:53.160
to do it. So stay with us when we come back.

541
00:28:53.279 --> 00:28:55.640
You're not going to want to miss the rest of

542
00:28:55.680 --> 00:29:09.519
this interview. And we're back with the skeptic metaphysicians. Today

543
00:29:09.519 --> 00:29:13.359
we're talking to Florentini or Anita, who is a master

544
00:29:13.680 --> 00:29:17.640
astral projector. He's a teacher who taught hundreds of people

545
00:29:17.680 --> 00:29:20.960
how to achieve out of body experiences. He's got a

546
00:29:21.000 --> 00:29:25.480
systematic training, a methodology that is shore fire. So we

547
00:29:25.680 --> 00:29:29.000
are picking his brain about all things astral projections because,

548
00:29:29.039 --> 00:29:32.119
as you know, this is my favorite topic in the world.

549
00:29:32.839 --> 00:29:35.720
We talked a lot about what astral projection is and

550
00:29:35.799 --> 00:29:38.519
all that kind of stuff before the break. Now I

551
00:29:38.519 --> 00:29:42.000
want to get into the nitty florentine first and foremost.

552
00:29:42.359 --> 00:29:45.599
I've read Bob Monroe's book, Journeys out of the Body,

553
00:29:45.799 --> 00:29:47.559
and a lot of people who are listening know about

554
00:29:47.559 --> 00:29:50.240
the Monroe Institute and all the research that they've done

555
00:29:50.480 --> 00:29:53.240
with hemi sync, which is sinking the two hemispheres of

556
00:29:53.279 --> 00:29:56.079
the brains using binaural beats, all that kind of stuff.

557
00:29:56.160 --> 00:29:58.519
The CIA has a whole document now that you can

558
00:29:58.720 --> 00:30:01.000
look for it yourself. Right now, you can downloaded the

559
00:30:01.039 --> 00:30:03.799
Gateway project. It talks about hemi sink and things like

560
00:30:03.839 --> 00:30:07.960
that to achieve out of body experiences. But in Bob

561
00:30:08.000 --> 00:30:12.599
Monroe's book, there's a part that made me very scared

562
00:30:12.960 --> 00:30:18.119
because he started talking about encounters with entities that maybe

563
00:30:18.200 --> 00:30:21.839
aren't the best things to run into in the astral plane.

564
00:30:22.279 --> 00:30:24.759
Is there anything that we should be afraid of when

565
00:30:24.799 --> 00:30:27.279
we first leave our bodies. You've already mentioned that no

566
00:30:27.279 --> 00:30:29.680
one's going to come over and take our bodies or anything,

567
00:30:29.680 --> 00:30:31.920
But are there any entities out there that we might

568
00:30:32.119 --> 00:30:35.960
get a little nerve wreck over, you know, demons or

569
00:30:36.119 --> 00:30:39.680
beings or astral beings that maybe don't want the best

570
00:30:39.759 --> 00:30:40.400
for us?

571
00:30:40.799 --> 00:30:44.720
Okay, So first, what I would like to share is

572
00:30:44.759 --> 00:30:50.279
that when we leave our when we project our awareness

573
00:30:50.319 --> 00:30:52.079
and we leave our bodies in this way, we are

574
00:30:52.119 --> 00:30:55.480
still going to be in a world of duality. We're

575
00:30:55.519 --> 00:30:59.799
not leaving duality anytime soon, you know. We're still there.

576
00:30:59.839 --> 00:31:04.839
So of course there's going to be dark, darkness and

577
00:31:05.000 --> 00:31:07.400
light that's going to be feared. That's going to be love.

578
00:31:08.200 --> 00:31:12.319
So there's going to be beings of lower vibrations and

579
00:31:12.400 --> 00:31:16.400
beings of high vibrations. It's going to be dimensions where

580
00:31:16.440 --> 00:31:21.160
there are weird creatures and sick people and all kinds

581
00:31:21.200 --> 00:31:23.559
of weird stuff going on, and it's going to be

582
00:31:23.839 --> 00:31:27.519
places that are full of light and love and beauty

583
00:31:27.559 --> 00:31:33.960
and amazing and profound. There's everything. Just like on the internet,

584
00:31:34.039 --> 00:31:36.319
you can go and you can find crazy websites and

585
00:31:36.319 --> 00:31:44.400
you can find beautiful websites and just like in the

586
00:31:44.400 --> 00:31:48.279
physical reality, you can go to places that are very

587
00:31:48.319 --> 00:31:51.640
scary and dangerous, it can go to places that are

588
00:31:51.759 --> 00:31:57.839
beautiful and amazing. And it's interesting because sometimes I wonder, like,

589
00:31:57.960 --> 00:32:01.799
before we incarnated here, did we get any debreachs from

590
00:32:01.839 --> 00:32:04.119
somebody what is going to be like to have a

591
00:32:04.200 --> 00:32:09.119
human physical life? And if we did, how did that being,

592
00:32:10.519 --> 00:32:15.920
you know, describe it to us. It's it's interesting because

593
00:32:16.000 --> 00:32:18.839
I think even I will believe that even you know,

594
00:32:18.880 --> 00:32:21.200
we will probably know a lot about this place before

595
00:32:21.200 --> 00:32:24.599
we come. And even though we know that there are

596
00:32:25.799 --> 00:32:28.279
crazy things going on here and you can get killed,

597
00:32:28.319 --> 00:32:31.359
and there's wars, and there's rape, and there's so many

598
00:32:31.480 --> 00:32:34.279
bad things that can happen to you, we still choose

599
00:32:34.359 --> 00:32:37.839
to come here and experience a physical life because there's

600
00:32:37.839 --> 00:32:41.119
so much growth, there's so much potential to have this

601
00:32:41.200 --> 00:32:44.680
physical life. And so I see an abjection a bit

602
00:32:44.759 --> 00:32:49.839
like that too. There's everything out there, but there's so

603
00:32:49.960 --> 00:32:53.599
much amazing things out there that those negative things that

604
00:32:53.680 --> 00:32:56.839
are out there shouldn't sort of stop you from going

605
00:32:57.279 --> 00:33:00.960
out of body. So that's the first thing. And then

606
00:33:01.000 --> 00:33:06.200
the second thing is that we are indestructible. We are

607
00:33:06.440 --> 00:33:12.559
not fragile when we got a body we you know,

608
00:33:12.799 --> 00:33:15.440
the other day, I was in a dimension where I

609
00:33:15.599 --> 00:33:18.200
was witnessing a fight and there was some sort of

610
00:33:18.240 --> 00:33:22.880
police force fighting some other people. I don't know what

611
00:33:22.920 --> 00:33:25.200
it was exactly, but I as soon as I saw that,

612
00:33:25.279 --> 00:33:27.720
I ended up just in the middle because a lot

613
00:33:27.759 --> 00:33:30.559
of times, when you focus on something, you just arrived

614
00:33:30.559 --> 00:33:35.920
there because your focus is there. And this actual police

615
00:33:35.920 --> 00:33:39.880
officer of some sort started to attack me, started to

616
00:33:39.920 --> 00:33:43.839
punch me, and the punches went through me like nothing.

617
00:33:43.920 --> 00:33:46.319
I couldn't feel anything. It wasn't hurting me. There was

618
00:33:46.319 --> 00:33:48.599
no pain, there was nothing. It was just like it

619
00:33:48.640 --> 00:33:50.559
was a strange, little bit strange.

620
00:33:50.799 --> 00:33:54.240
So I've had dreams where someone's fighting me and I,

621
00:33:54.240 --> 00:33:56.599
you know, either I don't feel it or I can't

622
00:33:56.680 --> 00:33:57.759
hit them right.

623
00:33:58.119 --> 00:34:00.599
But I've always known it is a dream.

624
00:34:00.839 --> 00:34:03.799
Now, what you talked about before the break, you said

625
00:34:03.799 --> 00:34:06.519
that it is a definite, palpable difference from a dream.

626
00:34:06.599 --> 00:34:09.480
You you were there, more real than real, almost, is

627
00:34:09.519 --> 00:34:12.719
what you said. So these punches when he was going,

628
00:34:12.800 --> 00:34:14.280
he was hitting you, and it was good, just going

629
00:34:14.360 --> 00:34:17.199
right through you. It wasn't a dream. You were there.

630
00:34:17.320 --> 00:34:20.000
The astrol cop was there, and he was throwing punches

631
00:34:20.000 --> 00:34:21.360
at you and you just weren't feeling it. It's just

632
00:34:21.400 --> 00:34:23.440
it's kind of hard to wrap your head around how

633
00:34:23.480 --> 00:34:24.159
that could.

634
00:34:24.119 --> 00:34:25.960
Yeah, it's hard to wrap your hand around it. Well,

635
00:34:26.360 --> 00:34:28.480
I think too, I think what it could be? Uh

636
00:34:28.920 --> 00:34:34.440
what help is? Think about as a like we we

637
00:34:34.480 --> 00:34:38.440
are physical right now, We're in a physical body, and

638
00:34:38.480 --> 00:34:41.199
when we touched things in the physical, these things, these

639
00:34:41.239 --> 00:34:45.280
objects in the physical, they're vibrant at the same frequency,

640
00:34:45.400 --> 00:34:48.559
so there's solid to us. We cannot put our hands

641
00:34:48.599 --> 00:34:50.840
through the table, you know, it's it's a hard surface.

642
00:34:51.760 --> 00:34:54.519
But when we are out of body in this non

643
00:34:54.559 --> 00:34:59.960
physical format, like I can touch my table in my room,

644
00:35:00.039 --> 00:35:02.440
and I can actually put my hand through the table.

645
00:35:02.480 --> 00:35:04.599
I can still feel that it's an object, that can

646
00:35:04.679 --> 00:35:07.440
feel the surface of it. But if I press I'll

647
00:35:07.440 --> 00:35:10.000
actually be able to put my hand through it. So

648
00:35:10.039 --> 00:35:12.679
we are a bit like a ghost, but not a

649
00:35:12.719 --> 00:35:14.760
ghost like made of air that just kind of like

650
00:35:15.679 --> 00:35:18.920
just disappears and appears. It's a bit more solid, But

651
00:35:18.960 --> 00:35:22.039
it depends on the frequency that you're occupying, the dimension

652
00:35:22.039 --> 00:35:24.320
that you're in, you know, the vibrations of that dimension

653
00:35:24.320 --> 00:35:28.119
and the vibrations of the body that you're having in

654
00:35:28.119 --> 00:35:30.360
that moment. It is complicated stuff.

655
00:35:30.440 --> 00:35:32.840
For sure, he was punching in his hands were going

656
00:35:32.880 --> 00:35:37.119
through you. Was were you maybe in a physical dimension

657
00:35:37.119 --> 00:35:41.519
where he was like we are now here? That makes sense,

658
00:35:41.559 --> 00:35:43.840
so like, yeah, he couldn't put his hand through the

659
00:35:43.880 --> 00:35:47.239
table sort of thing, but since you were astra he

660
00:35:47.239 --> 00:35:49.400
could put his hand through you. Do that makes sense

661
00:35:49.440 --> 00:35:49.679
at all?

662
00:35:49.920 --> 00:35:52.280
It is asking, Yeah, though it makes a lot of

663
00:35:52.320 --> 00:35:54.880
a lot of sense. And to be honest, I don't know.

664
00:35:55.079 --> 00:35:57.159
I don't know everything, Like I don't know why he's

665
00:35:57.719 --> 00:36:00.280
his hand went through me. I was surprised. But I

666
00:36:00.320 --> 00:36:02.519
also know that sometimes I got a body, and I

667
00:36:02.559 --> 00:36:05.159
have a body, and sometimes I don't have a body.

668
00:36:05.800 --> 00:36:10.280
So sometimes I look down and there's nothing and it's

669
00:36:10.480 --> 00:36:14.400
I'm just a point of awareness in space, and sometimes

670
00:36:14.400 --> 00:36:16.559
I have a body. Sometimes I look myself in the

671
00:36:16.559 --> 00:36:20.199
mirror and I see something. I see someone not necessarily mean.

672
00:36:20.239 --> 00:36:23.400
Sometimes it can be different to me than a parrelel

673
00:36:23.440 --> 00:36:29.000
dimensions weird. Sometimes I can see myself it's cool. Yeah,

674
00:36:29.119 --> 00:36:31.599
Sometimes I look myself in the mirror, but I see

675
00:36:31.679 --> 00:36:35.039
through me. I'll see the see in the background, as

676
00:36:35.039 --> 00:36:38.440
if I don't even exist. What I've what I've seen

677
00:36:38.519 --> 00:36:42.159
is that a lot of times when I when I

678
00:36:42.199 --> 00:36:45.000
look at my hands, which is one of the reality checks,

679
00:36:45.039 --> 00:36:47.679
is look at your hands to see if you're you know,

680
00:36:47.840 --> 00:36:49.800
you have five fingers, because then you know, okay, if

681
00:36:49.800 --> 00:36:51.840
you have five fingers and they look normal for the

682
00:36:51.880 --> 00:36:53.480
most part, you're going to be in the physical But

683
00:36:53.559 --> 00:36:57.159
if you have weird looking fingers, then you are most

684
00:36:57.239 --> 00:37:00.239
likely in no physical environment. Now it often happens to

685
00:37:00.280 --> 00:37:02.079
me is that when I take out my hands, I

686
00:37:02.119 --> 00:37:05.880
don't even have hands. I just I'm used to it

687
00:37:05.920 --> 00:37:08.159
from the physical, from being a human, that I'm supposed

688
00:37:08.199 --> 00:37:10.239
to have hands. But in a all physical I do

689
00:37:10.360 --> 00:37:12.599
like this, and I don't see them. But because I'm

690
00:37:12.599 --> 00:37:14.960
focusing on having hands, I can see how they start

691
00:37:15.000 --> 00:37:17.960
to grow out, like I see my palm growing out,

692
00:37:18.000 --> 00:37:20.480
and I can see my fingers popping out one by one,

693
00:37:20.559 --> 00:37:24.159
like and then I have hands because I projected them,

694
00:37:24.159 --> 00:37:28.199
like you can create things in these dimensions with your consciousness.

695
00:37:28.199 --> 00:37:32.639
Your consciousness is extremely creative in that. And that kind

696
00:37:32.639 --> 00:37:34.119
of brings me to the other point I wanted to

697
00:37:34.119 --> 00:37:37.840
make about the original question, which is entities and all that. Yep,

698
00:37:37.960 --> 00:37:42.440
your consciousness is going to be a very important sort

699
00:37:42.440 --> 00:37:48.519
of starting point for your experiences. The background you have,

700
00:37:48.840 --> 00:37:53.360
your knowledge, the way you see reality in stead of being,

701
00:37:53.400 --> 00:37:55.760
it's going to have a past impact. So if you're

702
00:37:55.840 --> 00:37:58.599
somebody that has a lot of steer, if you're someone

703
00:37:58.639 --> 00:38:01.480
that has been assuming a lot of fearful content about

704
00:38:01.480 --> 00:38:05.679
ass projection, or you're super religious and you think this

705
00:38:05.760 --> 00:38:07.840
is a sin and that the devil is going to

706
00:38:07.880 --> 00:38:10.760
come in after you, or that there's demons to come

707
00:38:10.800 --> 00:38:13.280
in after you, it's very possible that you're going to

708
00:38:13.360 --> 00:38:18.039
create that kind of experience for yourself because your consciousness

709
00:38:18.239 --> 00:38:22.960
isn't separate from the experiences. You can see that in

710
00:38:23.000 --> 00:38:26.280
the physical. You can see how in the physical manifestation

711
00:38:26.400 --> 00:38:28.599
works like that. You know, you can focus on something

712
00:38:28.880 --> 00:38:31.360
like a car or something that you want to happen,

713
00:38:31.400 --> 00:38:34.239
and then that would then appear in your physical reality,

714
00:38:34.360 --> 00:38:37.840
usually with some sort of delay, usually take maybe hours, weeks,

715
00:38:38.000 --> 00:38:40.280
years for you to manifest the thing that you've been

716
00:38:40.320 --> 00:38:44.159
focusing on. Now, in these non physical realities, you can

717
00:38:44.239 --> 00:38:49.079
manifest things very quickly. They just happen very instantly.

718
00:38:49.159 --> 00:38:51.199
Right right, So it goes back to always creating your

719
00:38:51.199 --> 00:38:54.079
own reality in that world there is no veil, so

720
00:38:54.599 --> 00:38:58.119
you can manifest much more immediately than you can in

721
00:38:58.119 --> 00:39:01.840
this swe dimensional world. Take the answer about whether there

722
00:39:01.840 --> 00:39:04.760
are dark endies out there as a check, Yes, there

723
00:39:04.800 --> 00:39:08.679
are first, but it's really dependent on your mindset. So

724
00:39:09.079 --> 00:39:12.239
if there's that such a thing, and I totally get

725
00:39:12.480 --> 00:39:15.760
why there would be entities like that, how do you

726
00:39:15.760 --> 00:39:18.039
protect it? Well, you mentioned that we were indestructible, so

727
00:39:18.079 --> 00:39:20.239
it really is known. Is there a need for protection

728
00:39:20.719 --> 00:39:23.039
or is there something we need to do or prepare

729
00:39:23.079 --> 00:39:26.440
ourselves other than think good thoughts before we start doing

730
00:39:26.440 --> 00:39:29.400
this stuff? Well, yeah, so there's still los so much

731
00:39:29.440 --> 00:39:32.519
to say about this. So one other thing is that

732
00:39:32.639 --> 00:39:37.320
thinking good thoughts can not necessarily That doesn't necessarily work

733
00:39:37.559 --> 00:39:40.880
because you can think good thoughts on the surface, on

734
00:39:40.880 --> 00:39:44.440
the conscious level, but on the subconscious level, you might

735
00:39:44.480 --> 00:39:46.719
have a lot of fears and limits and beliefs and

736
00:39:46.719 --> 00:39:49.440
all kinds of stuff lingering there which you might not

737
00:39:49.519 --> 00:39:51.760
know of or you might know. Obviously, you kind of

738
00:39:51.760 --> 00:39:55.159
go deeper with yourself, so it's very important to deal

739
00:39:55.199 --> 00:39:59.480
with that kind of stuff, to be honest.

740
00:39:59.519 --> 00:40:03.119
When I learned about these things, but when I learn

741
00:40:03.119 --> 00:40:07.519
about ass projection, the first experiences I've had were very pleasant.

742
00:40:07.559 --> 00:40:10.880
There is no there's there's nothing negative of anything. I've

743
00:40:10.920 --> 00:40:13.719
started to have more weird experiences when I started reading

744
00:40:13.719 --> 00:40:16.519
about the weird stuff online. That's when I start to

745
00:40:16.519 --> 00:40:20.000
have more weird experiences. Uh. And I've seen that there

746
00:40:20.039 --> 00:40:22.880
is a connection between the things that you think, the

747
00:40:22.920 --> 00:40:27.559
things that you worry about, your fears, and the experiences

748
00:40:27.599 --> 00:40:30.320
that you will have. And I've also started to see

749
00:40:30.320 --> 00:40:34.239
how there's this you know, there's this mechanism of consciousness

750
00:40:34.239 --> 00:40:36.719
to take you on a spiritual journey to get you

751
00:40:36.800 --> 00:40:39.599
to heal, to get you to evolve. And you know

752
00:40:39.639 --> 00:40:41.960
how how consciousness works, Like as soon as there is

753
00:40:42.639 --> 00:40:48.199
fear in your physical reality, Uh, then consciousness arranges itself

754
00:40:48.199 --> 00:40:49.840
so that you can face that fear, so that you

755
00:40:49.880 --> 00:40:52.960
can overcome that fear, so you can hear heal that fear.

756
00:40:54.440 --> 00:40:58.000
We are constantly taken on a journey of healing. And so,

757
00:40:58.119 --> 00:41:01.639
mister Sam in these others, if you have a bunch

758
00:41:01.679 --> 00:41:06.199
of fears or worries, you will be taken onto experiences

759
00:41:06.239 --> 00:41:10.920
that will challenge those fears and will essentially help you

760
00:41:11.000 --> 00:41:12.840
to over I mean it's that they're mate so that

761
00:41:13.119 --> 00:41:15.840
you're supposed to overcome them. You're supposed to kind of

762
00:41:17.039 --> 00:41:19.480
look at them and kind of laugh at them. You know,

763
00:41:19.599 --> 00:41:22.079
see a demon let's trying to attack you. Instead of

764
00:41:22.079 --> 00:41:23.800
being like, oh my god, it's real, I'm going to die,

765
00:41:23.880 --> 00:41:25.400
it's just kind of like, ah, I don't believe in

766
00:41:25.440 --> 00:41:27.880
you go away, and they kind of vaporize.

767
00:41:28.320 --> 00:41:31.000
Apparently our dog wants to get involved in the conversation

768
00:41:31.119 --> 00:41:33.440
as well, probably saw one of the entities and he's

769
00:41:33.480 --> 00:41:35.000
trying to ward it off.

770
00:41:35.079 --> 00:41:37.440
Right now, how they say animals are very sensitive.

771
00:41:37.119 --> 00:41:40.039
Yeah they are. Yeah, So what you're saying makes so

772
00:41:40.199 --> 00:41:42.639
much sense. Now, I just wish I had not read

773
00:41:42.639 --> 00:41:44.920
Bob and wrote the book, because that's what I hadn't

774
00:41:44.920 --> 00:41:47.400
thought of dark entities until I read his darn book.

775
00:41:48.679 --> 00:41:51.519
Now that's all I could think about. Well, but it's okay,

776
00:41:51.559 --> 00:41:54.920
because you know, if the really cool thing about it

777
00:41:55.000 --> 00:41:57.760
is that think about it this way. To me, the

778
00:41:57.760 --> 00:42:00.199
way I look at it is that physical reality is

779
00:42:00.679 --> 00:42:05.840
it's way more dangerous than non physical realities. Why. Well,

780
00:42:05.840 --> 00:42:10.079
because in a physical reality, if you are in a

781
00:42:10.599 --> 00:42:13.239
situation that you don't want to be, if you're perhaps

782
00:42:13.599 --> 00:42:16.679
you're going down a dark alley and someone wants to

783
00:42:16.840 --> 00:42:20.280
rob you or do something bad to you in that moment.

784
00:42:20.400 --> 00:42:23.199
In the physical reality, you're gonna have to fight, or

785
00:42:23.360 --> 00:42:27.480
you're gonna have to run, or it's tricky and you

786
00:42:27.519 --> 00:42:30.199
can get hurt. You can even die. Maybe you get

787
00:42:30.239 --> 00:42:32.519
run by a car that hits you and you get

788
00:42:32.639 --> 00:42:36.159
really injured and your physical body dies and came over

789
00:42:36.599 --> 00:42:39.880
in the physical realm. But if you're out of body

790
00:42:39.920 --> 00:42:42.679
having these experiences, which by the way, you're having all

791
00:42:42.679 --> 00:42:47.760
the time when you're sleeping anyway, non consciously, unconsciously. When

792
00:42:47.880 --> 00:42:50.239
you are, then let's say in a place that you

793
00:42:50.280 --> 00:42:53.639
don't want to be, maybe you're seeing some weird entity

794
00:42:53.679 --> 00:42:57.679
that is coming towards you or whatever, you can just

795
00:42:57.880 --> 00:43:00.480
think about returning back to the body. You can just

796
00:43:00.519 --> 00:43:03.320
think about your room, or think about, oh, I want

797
00:43:03.320 --> 00:43:06.760
to go home now, and boom, witness in me a second.

798
00:43:06.800 --> 00:43:09.480
You're now waking up in your bed and you're completely

799
00:43:09.480 --> 00:43:13.639
safe and sound. There's nothing, nothing bad happening to you.

800
00:43:14.440 --> 00:43:16.599
So any weird experience that you don't like, you can

801
00:43:16.679 --> 00:43:19.320
just come back in to your comfort of your home

802
00:43:19.320 --> 00:43:23.280
and your pajamas and just be completely comfortable and safe.

803
00:43:23.559 --> 00:43:25.360
How often can we do that in the physical You know,

804
00:43:25.400 --> 00:43:27.159
you're in somewhere you don't want to be, and then

805
00:43:27.199 --> 00:43:28.559
you're just like, oh, I want to go home, and

806
00:43:28.559 --> 00:43:30.639
then you're back in your in your house, safe and sound.

807
00:43:30.679 --> 00:43:32.920
That doesn't happen. You have to go home somehow, right,

808
00:43:32.960 --> 00:43:36.199
it will be nice. So we have stuper powers. When

809
00:43:36.239 --> 00:43:39.679
we're out of body. We can teleport basically, we can fly.

810
00:43:43.960 --> 00:43:47.000
We can fly, we can go through walls, we can

811
00:43:47.039 --> 00:43:49.599
do things that we cannot do with our physical bodies.

812
00:43:50.320 --> 00:43:53.559
Because of that, we are sort of like superhuman. And

813
00:43:53.639 --> 00:43:55.840
in this about a state, you have a question here.

814
00:43:55.920 --> 00:43:57.360
You want me to go nod because I know what

815
00:43:57.400 --> 00:43:58.480
you want to ask, so the ahead.

816
00:43:58.519 --> 00:44:00.000
Okay, that all sounds great.

817
00:44:00.039 --> 00:44:02.760
And sometimes I know that I met some certain parties

818
00:44:02.760 --> 00:44:05.760
that I really wish I was home. You know, you

819
00:44:05.840 --> 00:44:07.559
kind of have to kind of have to be there,

820
00:44:07.599 --> 00:44:09.239
but you have to just sit there and bear it.

821
00:44:09.280 --> 00:44:13.039
It's probably some some work functions. But that all sounds

822
00:44:13.320 --> 00:44:14.760
understandable completely.

823
00:44:15.079 --> 00:44:18.239
I get it. It, Yeah, makes sense, And I would

824
00:44:18.320 --> 00:44:20.480
like to before you go on to the next question,

825
00:44:20.480 --> 00:44:22.840
I would like to just share a little story just

826
00:44:22.880 --> 00:44:25.480
to hit it home a little bit better for some people. Okay,

827
00:44:25.920 --> 00:44:30.039
because there is there is not enough information about this stuff.

828
00:44:30.079 --> 00:44:35.760
You know, it's there's a lot of misconceptions. So a

829
00:44:35.760 --> 00:44:41.280
lot of times people see dark figures and it can

830
00:44:41.280 --> 00:44:43.400
be it can be very confusing and also can be

831
00:44:43.480 --> 00:44:48.400
very scary if you don't know what it is sometimes. Right. So,

832
00:44:48.400 --> 00:44:51.199
so a friend of mine went out of body and

833
00:44:51.400 --> 00:44:54.280
in the kitchen saw this dark figure in the corner,

834
00:44:56.519 --> 00:44:59.079
and for the most part, most people just get scared

835
00:44:59.159 --> 00:45:01.519
at that point and and no, thank you, come back

836
00:45:01.559 --> 00:45:04.840
to the body and just go, oh my god, there's

837
00:45:04.840 --> 00:45:08.800
a demon in my kitchen. I have to sell the house. Yes,

838
00:45:09.440 --> 00:45:12.760
right now, exactly what my thought process was tonight. We

839
00:45:12.800 --> 00:45:18.800
can't stay yeah, exactly now. Luckily, this guy had a

840
00:45:18.920 --> 00:45:21.840
very different mindset. He was very open minded, which is

841
00:45:21.880 --> 00:45:23.639
one of the key things you want to be with this.

842
00:45:24.760 --> 00:45:27.400
And he was like, there's a dark looking figure in

843
00:45:27.440 --> 00:45:29.360
my in the corner of my kitchen. I wonder what

844
00:45:29.400 --> 00:45:33.280
it is. So he goes closer to this figure, and

845
00:45:33.320 --> 00:45:37.280
as he gets closer, he then realizes that because this

846
00:45:37.280 --> 00:45:39.599
this this darkness starts to kind of disappear and he

847
00:45:39.599 --> 00:45:42.280
now sees clearly what it is, and it was his son.

848
00:45:42.920 --> 00:45:47.079
And his son was having not a bad experience. Oh, well,

849
00:45:47.119 --> 00:45:50.480
he was sleeping in the other room, and now he's

850
00:45:50.519 --> 00:45:54.199
having an interesting conversation with his son, a little kind

851
00:45:54.199 --> 00:45:56.920
of back and forth daddy and son kind of conversation,

852
00:45:58.039 --> 00:46:00.840
and it's a beautiful experience. The next day he wakes

853
00:46:00.920 --> 00:46:02.719
up or he wakes up from the experience and he's like,

854
00:46:02.760 --> 00:46:05.320
oh my god, I had this experience, goes and talk

855
00:46:05.400 --> 00:46:08.920
to his son. His son didn't remember anything of that, unfortunately,

856
00:46:09.719 --> 00:46:14.159
but for him that was a beautiful experience. So he

857
00:46:14.199 --> 00:46:16.079
came back from the experience going, oh my god, this

858
00:46:16.239 --> 00:46:18.320
was amazing. I met my son out of body in

859
00:46:18.320 --> 00:46:23.320
the kitchen. He's beautiful. And the only difference if you

860
00:46:23.320 --> 00:46:25.760
look at this, like the difference is what filters you

861
00:46:25.840 --> 00:46:28.239
put on to the experience. You know, do you go

862
00:46:28.320 --> 00:46:30.000
into fear sort of way because you don't know where

863
00:46:30.000 --> 00:46:32.119
it is and you discard it as something scary, or

864
00:46:32.519 --> 00:46:34.599
do you go into like open mindedness and you kind

865
00:46:34.599 --> 00:46:37.000
of go and find out what it is. And this

866
00:46:37.119 --> 00:46:38.639
is what happens a lot of times as well, that

867
00:46:38.960 --> 00:46:41.000
people just kind of freak out and they run away

868
00:46:41.039 --> 00:46:43.480
and they report something negative. A lot of times there

869
00:46:43.480 --> 00:46:46.760
could be something completely different than you and you think, right,

870
00:46:47.000 --> 00:46:50.239
So instead of going into it with fear, maybe your

871
00:46:50.280 --> 00:46:55.960
suggestion is to go into it with curiosity. That makes sense, yes, curiosity,

872
00:46:56.400 --> 00:46:57.480
open mindedness.

873
00:46:58.599 --> 00:46:58.840
Love.

874
00:46:59.159 --> 00:47:01.079
So one of the things that we do with our

875
00:47:01.119 --> 00:47:04.400
students is before the practice while in the practice, when

876
00:47:04.440 --> 00:47:07.760
they're starting the process, is to focus on filling themselves

877
00:47:07.760 --> 00:47:10.519
with love so that that raises their vibration to this

878
00:47:10.920 --> 00:47:14.119
vacancy of love. And it's also one of the protective

879
00:47:14.239 --> 00:47:16.639
mechanism that you can use when you're out if you

880
00:47:17.199 --> 00:47:20.599
are experiencing like some sort of negative anths that they

881
00:47:20.599 --> 00:47:23.079
don't want to talk to. Now you you can project

882
00:47:23.119 --> 00:47:26.320
your love out to that being or fill yourself with

883
00:47:26.400 --> 00:47:28.800
love and for the most part, that will just dissolve.

884
00:47:28.840 --> 00:47:32.599
They'll just kind of disappear away. I'd love it. You're

885
00:47:32.639 --> 00:47:34.800
helping me to get over my fear. So maybe that

886
00:47:34.840 --> 00:47:35.800
could start doing this.

887
00:47:36.199 --> 00:47:38.199
And that's a great tip for anybody listening too, if

888
00:47:38.199 --> 00:47:40.239
they're kind of starting to explore a little bit, just

889
00:47:40.320 --> 00:47:43.079
you know, fill yourself with love and besides feeling good,

890
00:47:43.519 --> 00:47:44.519
it'll protect you as well.

891
00:47:45.159 --> 00:47:47.119
All Right, Florentine, let's get to the nitty of it.

892
00:47:47.199 --> 00:47:49.320
Now that we're getting closer to the end of the show.

893
00:47:50.119 --> 00:47:53.440
What's the best way for someone to experience something as

894
00:47:53.599 --> 00:47:57.400
miraculous as an out of body experience? What's the best way?

895
00:47:57.960 --> 00:47:59.679
Well, the best way I would say is to work

896
00:47:59.679 --> 00:48:03.840
with somebody that has done it and that can show

897
00:48:03.880 --> 00:48:06.360
you the way because it is a confusing journey and

898
00:48:06.559 --> 00:48:09.360
as you can sell by this just conversation, there's so

899
00:48:09.400 --> 00:48:11.360
many details to it. So if you're trying to figure

900
00:48:11.400 --> 00:48:13.599
this out on your own, you're most likely going to

901
00:48:13.639 --> 00:48:15.880
get stuck quite a few times on the on the journey.

902
00:48:15.960 --> 00:48:18.280
So it's it's really helpful to have somebody that you're

903
00:48:18.320 --> 00:48:22.440
going to be spending time with, asking your questions, doing

904
00:48:22.480 --> 00:48:26.559
the practice, and then asking more questions, and that back

905
00:48:26.599 --> 00:48:30.440
and forth is really really key because this is a

906
00:48:30.519 --> 00:48:32.400
it's a very it's a very serious practice. You don't

907
00:48:32.440 --> 00:48:33.880
want to just like throw yourself in there with not

908
00:48:33.960 --> 00:48:36.000
knowing what you're doing. You want to have somebody help

909
00:48:36.079 --> 00:48:41.159
you with that process. So that's what I would say. Now,

910
00:48:41.199 --> 00:48:44.039
are you looking for to to know some techniques or

911
00:48:44.039 --> 00:48:46.800
some tricks like that, or if it's.

912
00:48:46.639 --> 00:48:49.119
And we're going to I know that you teach a

913
00:48:49.159 --> 00:48:52.239
class on this. You've helped hundreds of people to achieve

914
00:48:52.360 --> 00:48:54.960
these results. In by the way, you're going to gain

915
00:48:55.000 --> 00:48:57.920
another student here shortly after the show. Oh no, Karen,

916
00:48:59.159 --> 00:49:02.239
We're going to add the links to your program directly.

917
00:49:01.880 --> 00:49:02.480
On the show notes.

918
00:49:02.480 --> 00:49:04.599
So if you're interested to grow skepticmposician dot com, go

919
00:49:04.639 --> 00:49:07.159
to his episode page. You'll see the link there directly

920
00:49:07.239 --> 00:49:08.800
laid in for you, so it's easy for you to

921
00:49:08.800 --> 00:49:11.840
access it. But if someone wasn't ready to reach out

922
00:49:11.880 --> 00:49:14.440
to you to talk to you about getting into your program,

923
00:49:14.599 --> 00:49:17.400
is there anything that you can provide, any tips on

924
00:49:17.440 --> 00:49:19.559
how to prepare themselves for doing something like this or

925
00:49:19.599 --> 00:49:22.599
even maybe achieving a small moncum of success with it

926
00:49:22.679 --> 00:49:23.679
before reaching out to you.

927
00:49:24.239 --> 00:49:26.760
So I would say, before reaching out to me, there's

928
00:49:26.840 --> 00:49:30.400
nothing you have to do, because we rework on everything

929
00:49:30.559 --> 00:49:33.199
from the beginning with the program that I've created, because

930
00:49:33.199 --> 00:49:34.840
that was the whole idea. It was like, Okay, I've

931
00:49:34.840 --> 00:49:38.079
discovered something amazing. I want to show this with the world.

932
00:49:38.199 --> 00:49:40.119
People don't believe me when I tell them about this,

933
00:49:40.239 --> 00:49:42.039
so the only way to share with them is to

934
00:49:42.079 --> 00:49:45.000
make them have the experience themselves by teaching them how

935
00:49:45.039 --> 00:49:49.079
to do it from the beginning. So I knew that

936
00:49:49.400 --> 00:49:51.519
I wasn't the gifted person. When I started this, I

937
00:49:51.559 --> 00:49:54.559
wasn't a master meditator, and I know that the people

938
00:49:54.679 --> 00:49:57.199
going to teach or the wayst I thought of it, it

939
00:49:57.039 --> 00:49:59.239
was like, I want to teach someone like me that

940
00:49:59.719 --> 00:50:02.719
is not gifted. You know, superhero at this stuff doesn't

941
00:50:02.760 --> 00:50:06.159
meditate for make sure for years. So how do I

942
00:50:06.199 --> 00:50:08.639
help that person? From step one? You know, what do

943
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they have to do? So we covered all of that

944
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with the program and there's nothing you really have to

945
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do before that. In the program, we work on in

946
00:50:18.360 --> 00:50:20.559
the beginning, we talk about what it is that you're

947
00:50:20.559 --> 00:50:22.719
going to do, you know, how this stuff works, to

948
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what to expect, and it's we talk about the mindset.

949
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We talk about different blockages they might have, and we

950
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work with healers and hypo therapists to to help you

951
00:50:32.519 --> 00:50:34.800
overcome some blockages that you might have. Like if you

952
00:50:34.840 --> 00:50:36.400
know you have a fear of going out a body,

953
00:50:37.039 --> 00:50:39.079
we need to work on that. You can't have that

954
00:50:39.159 --> 00:50:41.840
fear and practice it because it's not going to work.

955
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You're gonna you're going to stop yourself, like your subconscious

956
00:50:46.000 --> 00:50:48.400
knows when you're ready for these different steps. And that's

957
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another thing that I didn't mention before. But it's almost

958
00:50:51.519 --> 00:50:55.239
like there is a safety mechanism built in place the

959
00:50:55.280 --> 00:50:58.519
whole time. You will not be taken too far if

960
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you're not ready for it. You'll be taken to you know,

961
00:51:01.639 --> 00:51:03.440
as far as you're ready. So a lot of times

962
00:51:03.480 --> 00:51:05.400
people might have given fear to get out of body

963
00:51:05.599 --> 00:51:08.079
in the first place. And so if you have that

964
00:51:08.159 --> 00:51:10.639
fear when you're in that state and you started to

965
00:51:10.639 --> 00:51:13.639
get close, you'll then feel free, fearful, and then it

966
00:51:13.679 --> 00:51:16.760
will stop, so you won't be able to get out

967
00:51:16.840 --> 00:51:18.400
if you have that fear. So then we have to

968
00:51:18.679 --> 00:51:21.280
be incorporated, you know, a solutions that which is working

969
00:51:21.559 --> 00:51:24.880
the therapist to help you overcome those fears so that

970
00:51:24.960 --> 00:51:28.000
you then can feel relaxed and so you can get

971
00:51:28.039 --> 00:51:32.280
into this state. And then the program continues with videos

972
00:51:32.280 --> 00:51:35.239
on teaching the three main methods of how to get

973
00:51:35.280 --> 00:51:37.599
a body you know. The first method is a way

974
00:51:37.679 --> 00:51:40.840
to do it through dreaming to become conscious that you're dreaming,

975
00:51:41.039 --> 00:51:43.400
and the you can transition from a dream into naster projection.

976
00:51:44.320 --> 00:51:47.840
The second one is one of one of the more

977
00:51:47.880 --> 00:51:50.920
powerful one which is in when you're going to sleep.

978
00:51:51.159 --> 00:51:53.800
There is a special soundtrack that have created that wakes

979
00:51:53.840 --> 00:51:57.280
you up just enough staate you to form some sort

980
00:51:57.280 --> 00:52:01.159
of techniques that can then take you out a body

981
00:52:01.159 --> 00:52:05.000
from sleep from some waking up from sleep. And then

982
00:52:05.039 --> 00:52:08.079
the third one is of course through deep meditation. We

983
00:52:08.239 --> 00:52:11.159
meditate yourself into this very very deep state where then

984
00:52:11.280 --> 00:52:13.679
can get a body. So we teach all of these

985
00:52:13.679 --> 00:52:17.400
different methods and we teach that with videos and we

986
00:52:17.440 --> 00:52:19.760
have soundtracks, special soundtrack for each method. And then we

987
00:52:19.840 --> 00:52:22.119
have the coaching, of course, which is so key. That's

988
00:52:22.119 --> 00:52:25.559
where you can ask questions personal questions about your situation,

989
00:52:25.679 --> 00:52:27.599
how you are doing the practice, and how you have

990
00:52:27.639 --> 00:52:32.880
to change the practice it's more successful for you. So

991
00:52:33.000 --> 00:52:38.239
that that's how the program works. And if you wanted

992
00:52:38.280 --> 00:52:41.079
to prepare anything for the program, if you felt if

993
00:52:41.079 --> 00:52:42.480
you still feel like, oh I still want to do

994
00:52:42.519 --> 00:52:47.599
some sort of work before this program, then I recommend

995
00:52:48.400 --> 00:52:51.239
watching our video. We have a video on the website

996
00:52:51.320 --> 00:52:53.760
that is about half an hour long that goes through

997
00:52:53.800 --> 00:52:58.400
a bunch of stuff like this. And another one is

998
00:52:59.079 --> 00:53:05.920
to meditate, to learn how to meditate, so learn how

999
00:53:05.960 --> 00:53:09.719
to concentrate your mind on one thing very important for

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the practice. That's how we get more control over where

1001
00:53:12.639 --> 00:53:13.639
we go and what we.

1002
00:53:13.559 --> 00:53:16.000
Do great get starting points.

1003
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So the very best way to learn how to ask

1004
00:53:19.800 --> 00:53:23.159
to project is to reach out to Florentine Unita and

1005
00:53:23.280 --> 00:53:26.480
join his accelerator program because he's going to walk you through.

1006
00:53:26.519 --> 00:53:28.079
He's going to hold your hand and walk you through

1007
00:53:28.159 --> 00:53:31.880
every step of the process safely. So people like me

1008
00:53:31.960 --> 00:53:35.960
who are afraid of and counting end of these or

1009
00:53:36.039 --> 00:53:39.599
dark ended easer beings that maybe don't want me out there,

1010
00:53:39.800 --> 00:53:42.079
you can help us through it. So that's great, all right,

1011
00:53:42.239 --> 00:53:43.400
I'm sold, you sold me.

1012
00:53:43.840 --> 00:53:44.559
I'm on board.

1013
00:53:44.760 --> 00:53:47.960
But we're going to add direct links to that program

1014
00:53:48.000 --> 00:53:50.599
in our show notes. Like I mentioned earlier, we're also

1015
00:53:50.599 --> 00:53:53.000
going to add links to your social media so people

1016
00:53:53.000 --> 00:53:55.000
can reach out to you. If they're so inclined. Go

1017
00:53:55.159 --> 00:53:58.519
to skepticmanephosition dot com so you can connect with Florentine directly.

1018
00:53:59.000 --> 00:54:01.639
If you have any questions about astro projection, he's the

1019
00:54:01.679 --> 00:54:03.440
man to go to. You can certainly come to us,

1020
00:54:03.519 --> 00:54:05.039
but we're not going to be able to answer him.

1021
00:54:05.079 --> 00:54:07.679
So we'll tell you where to go. Yeah, in a

1022
00:54:07.679 --> 00:54:08.239
good way.

1023
00:54:08.599 --> 00:54:11.840
Yeah, where to go, and I'll tell you where to

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find some answers.

1025
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That's right, that's right, Allia Florentina. It's been an absolute pleasure.

1026
00:54:16.360 --> 00:54:18.480
Thank you so much for coming on the show and

1027
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sharing your wisdom with us.

1028
00:54:19.679 --> 00:54:21.480
Thank you, thank you so much for having me and

1029
00:54:21.599 --> 00:54:23.639
looking forward to see you in the Asstow soon. It

1030
00:54:23.679 --> 00:54:26.920
sounds good to me. Yeah, we have a party.

1031
00:54:27.840 --> 00:54:28.000
Well.

1032
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Thanks for coming along on this journey discovery with us.

1033
00:54:30.400 --> 00:54:33.079
We'd love to continue our conversation with you on our

1034
00:54:33.119 --> 00:54:36.920
website at Skeptic Metaphysician dot com, or on Facebook and

1035
00:54:36.960 --> 00:54:40.960
Instagram under a Skeptic Metaphysician podcast. If you know someone

1036
00:54:40.960 --> 00:54:43.320
who would benefit from hearing the messages we're sharing on

1037
00:54:43.400 --> 00:54:46.400
the show, do them and us a favor and share

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00:54:46.440 --> 00:54:48.760
the show with them. It will help get the word

1039
00:54:48.800 --> 00:54:52.239
out about us and it may just change someone's life

1040
00:54:52.440 --> 00:54:54.599
for the better. And if you're listening to this on

1041
00:54:54.639 --> 00:54:57.039
the radio and you missed something, well, not to worry.

1042
00:54:57.079 --> 00:54:59.239
All of our shows, including this one, can be found

1043
00:54:59.519 --> 00:55:02.880
at Skeptic Metaphysician dot com, where you can also watch

1044
00:55:02.920 --> 00:55:05.480
the videos or even send us an email or voicemail

1045
00:55:05.519 --> 00:55:10.440
directly from the site. We absolutely love feedback and would

1046
00:55:10.440 --> 00:55:11.960
appreciate hearing from you.

1047
00:55:12.920 --> 00:55:14.679
I hope you've enjoyed this episode as much as we have.

1048
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That's all for now.

1049
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We'll see you on the next episode of Dyskeptic Metaphysicians.

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Until then, take care of