From Scarcity to Soul-Aligned Wealth: Spiritual Awakening and Money Neutrality for Abundant Living

0:00 Karen, Yes, I've been thinking a lot. Yeah, I don't know how to take that. I'm very proud of you. Okay, well I've been thinking a lot about Wall Street? Oh oh yo, Yes, the big question there that I've been grappling with all this time. Do you think there's a way to connect spirituality with Wall Street? I have, I don't even know. It would be great, it. Would be great, right. Well, it's a trick question because today'se guests went from corporate finance to energy finance. Oh that means she literally helps people align their money with their frequency. But what about their lack of money?

0:42 I think we're gonna be talking about that. Because I don't know that I want my frequency. All right, Karen, I think it sounds like my kind of investment plan finally exists. But brace yourself because she's about to reveal how wealth, freedom and spiritual alignment can actually work together. And no, Karen, she's not just here to fix your spending habits, although fingers crossed my spending habbits. My name is Will and I'm garous, and unlike Boulder and Scully. Both want to believe. So we've embarked in a journey of discovery. We've talked to people deeply entrenched in the spiritual and metaphysical world. We've thrown ourselves into weird and wonderful experiences. I even joined a coven of witches. And wait, you joined a coven?

1:23 Yep, all in the interest of finding something, anything that will prove that there's something beyond this physical. Three dimensional world we all live in. This is the Skeptic Metaphysicians. Okay, real talk. Life is a lot. I mean, between working full time producing the Skeptic Metaphysicians, launching new reality TV, and trying to be halfway decent parent. Sometimes I feel like I'm running on coffee vibes and sheer stubborn and look, I'm not proud of this, but when I hit that wall my nerves, I get crispy, like burnt toast in a meditation circle kind of crispy. But then I remember my secret weapon, my little magical flute of calm, my love tuner. Yep.

2:15 It's basically a necklace that you blow into, but not just any necklace. This baby emits a five hundred and twenty eight hertz frequency, also known as the love frequency. A few breaths through it and boom, instant reset. It's like my stress just packs it bags and goes in a silent retreat in Sedona. Seriously, it helps me recenter, quiet the chaos and feel like myself again. And who wouldn't want a portable pocket of peace? Well, if you're curious, check out the link in our show notes. When you buy through that special link, not only will you be doing something good for your nervous system, you'll be helping support the show too. So go ahead and tune into love and maybe save your own sanity in the process. Hey, there are Will and I'm Karen, and today we are excited to welcome the Spiritual Investor to the show. She's a former financial executive who walked away from corporate success to pursue a spiritual path that connects energy, intuition, and money.

3:15 She helps people build true financial freedom by investing in alignment with her soul's purpose. Elizabeth has guided thousands of seekers and entrepreneurs to rewrite their money story, stop living paycheck to paycheck, and actually create wealth that feels authentic. I'm feeling Karen's excitement level grow by the second. We are thrilled to welcome her to the skeptic musicians. Elizabeth Ralph, Elizabeth, thank you so much for being on the show today. Thank you. I think I could just sit here and say nothing and just listen to you guys. I'm walking to you like I'm like watching the Vanderbick. I'm like, there he goes, there, she goes, oh yeah, here she goes. Oh that she's what you gonna say? Uh, well, no pressure.

3:58 We like to have fun. We do this is this is fun for us, and especially because we get to talk to really like fascinating guests like you, the Spiritual Investor. I need to ask right up front. You had a very successful corporate career. What in the world went through your head to say I'm going to spiritual route. Oh god, you sound just like my family. They said, They're like, wait, wait, wait, wait, how many years have you been like trying to get this position that you're in now? Uh? And what are wait, what you're doing? What you're leaving? I know, well, I think you know, just like a lot of people, we have these things that we want to do and it's kind of become the more logical it is, the more it really sometimes becomes from us, because if it was from the thinking mind, then it would seem logical. And so it didn't seem logical that I would walk away from a career on a financial floor making six figure bonuses. But I was like, you know what, every time I step in the elevator and go up to this high security floor. I mean, I love the people I worked with, I love the job, but every time I did that, I felt like God, like a part of me has to just sit here and just I don't know, go away, or like there was a part of me that was just felt like it was leaving and it was really hard to explain, and I felt kind of like a whiny baby, like very ungrateful too every time I mentioned it, even to myself.

5:26 So what I decided to do is I just decided to choose. So if that's what I was feeling, then I would choose to buy my way out of it. That way, I could always stay in money neutrality, which is the place that I've always lived with money. That's what I teach, And I'm like, so, how can I create the setup for money neutrality rather than worrying about an amount of money? Because the money neutrality is the energetic, greatest opening to money and every single time. Money will follow you there, and that's exactly what happened. Well, it took a whole lot of courage, though, to take that step, because, like you said, you did walk away from the six figure bonuses for God's.

6:06 Sake, but she was paying with her soul. Well, I hear you, and Elizabeth, you are speaking to my soul right now. I don't know how many times I've talked about it in the show and to Karen. That is where I am right now. Every time I go into the office, I feel like a little part of me it's missing. Is lost to your boss doesn't listen to this. No, I love my boss. The only good thing about my job is my boss. Hi, Stephanie. But but but it took it took a lot of courage. I'm at the point where I don't think I have the courage to just walk away from anything that is keeping my family afloat. M hmm. Well you would if you didn't see any lack in it, because then you couldn't you couldn't actually feel like you needed courage to replace whatever it is you feel like you're going to need to replace.

6:52 I have a whole lot of lack Yep. Yeah. So I mean typically with myself, like this simplest plan ends up being the best for me because it's almost like and I feel like when we get plans like from knowing this, like I don't know you you know you have kids, right? You didn't have to call and ask someone how to eraise my kid. This is knowing this, right, It's like a oh you did. Do you have a knowingness about something else? Do I have a knowing with something else? I know how to eat? Like no one's business, that's true. Yeah, no, I totally understand what you're saying. Yeah, we're teasing, but we did know, like we were scared leaving the hospital, like how are we going to take care of this life?

7:37 But yeah, it became it was instinctual for us. Yeah, and it's interesting because we also look back on those really scary moments as some of the best moments of our life. Yet going forward, if we look at our future, we're afraid to live those. So you know when my next question is going to be right. It's infinite possibility. One question and that is how how does someone go from lack to neutrality? Yeah? And how does someone So I'm sure you get this a lot. You know, you're talking about making six figure bonuses, but most people aren't. So how does someone that how does someone that doesn't have that situation get the courage to take these steps?

8:25 Well, money is all relative because money is ones and zeros. So a six figure bonus to me that could be the same thing as a million dollar bonus to someone else. That could be the same thing as a fifteen hundred dollars bonus to someone So we have to understand that money is only defined by our own personal relationship with it. So I think that's the first thing, is what is your relationship to the certain amount of money that makes you feel at ease? And how can you buy your way into that based on knowingness and choices? I knew like I had. This phrase came to me when I was, you know, in my early thirties, because I retired at thirty nine, So the phrase it didn't even really make sense.

9:08 It's just that I kept hearing it, and what it was was you're going to need options in your forties, and it was almost like I kind of trusted it more because I didn't have any definition. It also served me well because it applied everywhere you know. I remember talking to my best friend on the phone at lunch and I was just miserable in it, and I was like, she's like at on a boat on the lake and don't you want to come up? And you know all this, and I'm like, but I'm going to need options in my forties. Now I'm painting this picture. It's not like I've like struggled and stressed out. I mean, I did have a great life, and like I said, I did love the job, but I knew that I didn't want to be in a corporate office kind of surrounded by the glass wall, which felt like it was closing in for an extended period of time, because I did know deep down that I was going to have to give up a part of myself to keep doing it into my late forties, fifties and sixties. And it was just there's no wrong or right, but there is a very solid answer for you will that makes like where you're just like it feels like a hammer just landed. You're like, no, that's what I'm doing. And then once you get that there's no such thing as courage.

10:27 I get that the problem is finding what that hammer is. Yeah, not really, Oh God, we got to talk Okay, hey, all right, let's let's take it back. We've talked to people that talk about the law of attraction and abundance and all that kind of stuff on several occasions, and everyone has talked about the fact that money is really just energy, right, It's an energy flow, money in, money out, money in, money out. You're supposed to let it flow, right, So how you talk well, aligning people with their frequency when it comes to money, what does how does that fit into the energy flow that we've talked to different people about.

11:14 Well, I mean, we could even you know, build upon you this time. We kind of started this with your example. So let me just ask you, who are you will going with that? Who am I I am? I'm a I'm a husband, I'm a father, I'm a el Who are you? Though? Not? What? I am sure that? I'm not sure that I know who I am? In that case? I mean you do, do I Maybe you can define that question for me. Let's say you were dropped here on earth, just like alienship dropped you down right, this is perfect for this this podcast too. Write We've all got the visual of this, right, you guys all go with me here right, Yes, will's being dropped down onto the ground poof like.

12:07 On the grounds all the time. Yes, the dust is puffing up on all the sides of them. Right. There's no one around. It's just you. There's no kids, there's no wife, there's nothing. It is just you and something. Whatever you envision it is. You get the message somehow that all you have to do is go out and exchange your full value and money, which is energy, will be exchanged equally back to you. That's all you have to do. You don't have to talk to anyone. You don't have to unless it involves that that's all you have to do. What would that be? I think that might be part of the problem. I'm not really sure. I know my entire career has been in television, so knee jerk, it would be. I'm a television producer, but I'm not now because it's not I don't feel aligned. So then I'm a storyteller, but I'm not because I don't tell stories anymore. I help other people tell stories. So I guess I'm a messenger of sorts.

13:14 I'm a platform for those with a message to get their messages across me. Do you what do you get when when someone when you get a message across to someone, what do you feel is what's there for you? Joy? I have fun? Right, we do the show and it's a lot of fun. We enjoy doing this. What are we doing? Okay? And then thank you for going through this, by the way. And then when you give someone you say you're a messenger. What's the benefit to them of getting the message. That you give? Hopefully you will help them to grow spiritually?

13:55 How do you know that? I don't. I don't. I take it on faith. We've gotten messages from people that say that it helps them, that it has been a source of inspiration for them, that it's helped them to make them feel normal. So we get those that feedback from people. We don't know for sure how many or who or if we help people. We just do it because we love doing it. Well, that's what I wasn't say, right, So you can probably tell when it's a second in person. But yeah, it would be probably more difficult with this. So you kind of already do know what you want to do, so then it what you can do is you can sort of there is something there. You have more of a foundation than you think about what you want to do, so, then you can look in the area of permission because there's something standing in the way of You're the only one that can block your access, and so of course you would feel like a part of you is dying, and it would seem like the circumstances, but it's actually lack of access. And every time, because your attention is so incredible, because you've been given or all given energetic currency.

15:12 And so when you rise to the standard where the way that you are living and this is for all of us, not just you, is your attention. Your standard is so high that you would never actually allow yourself to say I don't know, because it's that valuable. What it does is it pulls your energy in so vertical and so deep that you almost walk around in life like things are in slow motion. And when you walk in a room, people feel you people it is you have a different presence. And the deeper you go into your presence, what happens is that people start getting getting invited into you, money, opportunities and all this. And that is when the universal field actually which is already here, gets to get in and then your entire life is operating by an invite and the only thing that you're going back to is that knowingness, and it happens very fast.

16:16 There's an acceleration factor because then the world around you feels what you're doing. It's like you can when someone decides they're going to be a professional baseball player and they start to orient their life, their world around them changes and we all start to sort of invisibly support them. And that's where it goes into. We're expanding into our greater consciousness and at the same time, we're on a path of abundance. Be it well for whatever we choose that abundance to be. It's not just about us. We have to create the invite and we've never been taught to do that because we have been taught. We've been raised in this control and greed and you have to survive and sacrifice and that is actually given all of our power away.

17:00 That's a lot that I can see that being a lot of work and overwhelming. So how how does someone start on this path? Yeah, that's that's a great question. The reason that it seems like a lot of work and overwhelming is because we've been raised in a society where when you want to bring something into your life. Let's say add it into your life or get something. It is always associated associated with sacrifice or productivity or something like that which requires more of us when we are Let's go back to Will feeling joy. When he is being the messenger and he's feeling joy, he's not. It never enters his mind that it's work.

17:52 Truth true, very true. So actually, if it feels like work, then there's two things you can do. Look at the fact that but that's really just a relationship you have already. You're sort of stopping yourself. A lot of people avoid going down a path because they're like, oh, that's too much work. Well, we're kind of lazy. So there's that. And the second thing is if it starts to become work, there is something inauthentic in it, and you get to look at that. So what I heard you say, and I could be mistaken, but I heard you say that has to do with knowing yourself is a first step, right, knowing who you are, Like you started the conversation with who are you? Will?

18:34 So should I take from that? The more I know who I am, the better the flow is going to be. So that that when I walk into the room knowing who I am will automatically attract these opportunities, because the reason why I ask is I didn't have an answer for you. We have to run around a lot until we found what we're talking about here, and lo and behold, yep, I know who I am. I just didn't know who I am right right, So perhaps my lack stems from the fact that I don't truly am, not connected with who I actually am. Mm hmm. Well, there's knowing who you are from a definition point, and there's knowing who you are from a feeling point.

19:19 And when you know who you are from a feeling point, when you walk in the room, everybody else knows who you are too, and it's not because you've said anything, it's because of who you are. Like, I think we're a little bit different that way, because I don't like when you're saying, you know, I'm a producer, I'm all this. I don't. I can't define myself well that way. But I think I know more emotionally who I am than on the outside. You know, Karen, who are you? Well? I think so we talk a lot about love, and I think I'm someone that expresses that a lot people. People talk to me, they share their stories, we laugh to we hug each other like we have that we you know, have those bonds with people. So I think that's I'm just I'm just someone who loves Yeah.

20:10 So unfortunately that profession is not legal, so we have to think about other stuff. But it can make a lot of money. Well, so what would you say something to Careen about that, like would would she? I mean to me, what jumps to mind is, well, it sounds like you are a perfect counselor, right, someone that brings together people together. But I don't know, I've thought about that, but I think I'm too much of an mpath. I think I would just be devastated by the end of the day every day. I would like suck in everyone's problems and just be sad. Mm hmmm. Yeah, well this is this is really great. So so basically, and you've probably talked about this, you know, here on on the podcast anyways, but there's we're basically there's the old paradigm and there's the new paradigm, right and we've sort of like we were in the new paradigm, but we're just kind of bridging the gap right now. So just you know, building on what you just said. So you know we're talking. You talked about, you know, a counselor.

21:08 But then maybe you know, you're too empathetic and you'd be you know, at the end of the day, that would be you know, a bit challenging. So that's a description, and so that what happens is in the old world, like you have your description, so you have what you think a counselor is. When I hear it, I have what I think of as counselor is. So I'm not actually interacting with you. I'm interacting with the version of you that I've put in my mind that is a counselor, and you are interacting with the version of you that you would see as a counselor. So it's actually just us and us, right, So that what we're interacting with in the old world is so flat and it is such a yours and mine, because that's really the way the setup that we've been living in. It's not because it's wrong, it's just because that's what was being done then.

22:01 So in the new world, the way that we actually can stay and exist in it, because we're always going back and forth, is we must go beyond our definitions because the language doesn't apply. And so even we have to do this with ourselves first and foremost, because everything starts within. So even you going, I could be this, but then that feel that might make me feel like this or this might affect me this way. So you are moving yourself closer and further away, and closer and further away. It's almost like you are having the conversation with yourself, and it's a bit of like running around yourself. If you go beyond that, and you can go really vertical with this if you want, and you can say, if I was going to die tomorrow and I was sitting in front of someone, what do I want to who am I? Then? And maybe you can answer that, who are you?

22:56 Then? Scared? You talk me awful, not. Just of the actual dying part, not of the after, like is it gonna hurt? Gosh? See that That's when I would kind of go to those definitions. I'm a mother, I'm a wife, I'm a daughter, I'm a sister. That's not what you are. I know, I know, but I think that's how I would feel like I have to you know, you want to say goodbye to your family or whatever, and I would be in those roles with each different person to say my goodbyes to them. So I don't I don't know, and I don't know. And that's okay, that's okay. So so now what you get to look at is you're running away from that answer.

23:46 And it's very justified because in this world, we're supposed to care about all everybody else first. So it's it's it's normal, it's natural. And all we're doing is we're just learning how to walk a new path, and we have to not judge the old path too, because then that just pulls us right back into the old path. You know. It's like with my attention is on, you know, oh, that's not it. I'm not going to be in that world anymore. Then I'm in that world. So it's just something for you to look at that that you're that you're moving away from it. Because actually Will went right in there. Yay hahaha. Well this was way more of a counting session I ever expected. So for the general person that's listening to the show who's not with or Karen, what would be the first step for them to find out or to align themselves more with their frequency because everybody needs or wants to be maybe not abundant. But but like you mentioned money neutral, let's I guess that's define that first. What do you mean by money neutral?

24:50 Well, let me let me ask, because you said when people want to know who they want to be, right, So let's start with that and then i'll move that into money neutrality. Okay, So I would say, a really sort of hack easy way for someone to go, like, how do I know who I want to be? And this is just something that makes sense to me, is like who can you absolutely not be? I think I found that during my existential crisis that birth this show? Okay, good, good? So who can you absolutely not be? Right now? It's it could look wonky, and it could make no sense like it. In fact, if it makes no sense, that's typically even better, right, So I'll just leave it at that. When money neutrality is actually a function of that, because everything here is it's just access points, right, and so we're living in its parallel realities, and so we're just drawing down whatever parallel reality we choose to live in, and we're jumping timelines based on creating these new versions of ourselves, which isn't really a new version because it's just us and we're letting go of an old version and it feels new. Money neutrality is avoid and it's an opening. Have you ever been in front of someone where they're just so mesmerizing or powerful or magnetic that you're already thinking in your mind, how can I get closer to this person? Or how can I

26:20 spend more time? Or And you can get to a point where you don't even you don't even freaking I don't care what they have to offer. I have to be next to this person, right, So that's an example, and we feel. That, Yeah, every morning'm gonna wake up there you go next to her. So okay, so let's just take that, right, So like we're deciding, So it's there's only there's only one energy that is love. Love is the only energy that is out there. We are exchanging our own love, which you can call an energetic currency, and it's an exchange, and it's a full circle. So it's not it's not just the invite, it's actually giving two. So it's like it's going out there and if you're if you're our ability to receive money is diminished, then you can be giving, giving, giving, giving, and you're not honoring the full circle. Right. Money neutrality is when you're when you're balanced on both sides of it.

27:12 So we get to say what we're trading our energetic currency for. We do that with our own belief system, and we don't know that we're doing it. You see this a lot in like cultures that are rooted in you know, we care more about family and good food and we don't need the money kind of thing. Right, You see that, you see we don't, we don't need. It's almost like there's a blot there's it's a cultural norm to be poor because it's more embedded in a culture. And we see opposite too, where it's a cultural norm that money is so easy, it's just flowing everywhere. Again, money is ones and zero's. We're not defining who people are.

27:52 We're giving examples here, right, So we could see that the stop and flow of money, and it's based on that that belief system. So money neutrality is you're in that knowingness. You walk in the room, you don't you don't have to think about money because the energy is already being exchanged. If you want money, if you have put it out there that yeah, I'm gonna orient myself to be you know, I'm gonna have ten million dollars, but it has to be that at ease, though it's not. I'm frenzied I need to sign this deal so that I can have ten million dollars. It's a okay, well that's going to be here anyways, and I'm going to walk in the room and I'm really enjoying talking to this human being. You have to carry the energy of the ten million dollars first, and it's all perfect because you have to know you first.

28:49 So then do you, I guess maybe consciously or subconsciously, I'm not sure, make the decision that you want this ten thousand dollars and then just ten million dollars and then just kind of let it go. You can. It depends. It depends on your relationship with it. If I've already made one hundred million last month, then and I'm going to walk in the room and say, okay, well I'm going to make ten million dollars. I mean, it would be as easy as for me asking for, you know, another glass of water. But if I've only made ten thousand and I'm going in there, then it's very very different. So that has to be decided by the individual, and that's where we move away from money neutrality, and that's where people really get stuck, especially when they run spiritual businesses, because there's this whole correlation between spirituality and money and all of that. And then people give these rules, Okay, well you need to save ten percent, you need to do this in your business, you need to do that. Well, it's how do they know your energetic currency? They don't.

29:51 Well, then I mean yeay, Also it sounds amazing. How how does someone get to that point? Because we'll go back to the counseling session for a second. We have talked to a lot of people about you need to feel the energy of it before you get there, right, the you need to feel like you've already have it in order for you to have it. But then other people say, it's not really the money you want, it's the feeling you get by having the money. That's what you're going for. Is that feeling? So? And now, yes, having that money neutrality, going into the room and saying I'm going to make ten million dollars and actually bringing that energy with you sounds wonderful, But subconsciously I might be about to say something that's a little controversial. But if I believe that we have been trained to live in lack by design to keep.

30:47 Us keep the hamster wheel spent. Yeah, to keep us dependent. Right, So there's a lot of programming that is inside of each one of us that we have to overcome to be able to bring that ten million dollar energy to the table, to that conversation. So let's talk specifically Karen and I because we can be the stand ins for the audience right now if we are and we are in a point where we're not bringing that ten million dollar energy into the conversation even though we want to, and we have done that whole thing. Yep, it's coming, and we know it's coming. We know it's coming, but something deep downside of the same bood is it really right? So how you overcome that little voice in your head that says, sure, we need to take a quick pause, but we'd be right back right after these messages. There. It's Will just stepping in here for a second to ask you for a favor. See, the main reason we do this show is to help others in their spiritual awakening, and nothing makes us happier than to hear or read messages from those that are resonating with the messages we're sharing on the show. So if you have a moment, we'd love for you to contribute to the show by heading to Skepticmanaphysician dot com and sending us a voicemail or an email, or if you prefer, we love for you to leave us a review on Apple Podcasts or any other podcasting platform that supports them. Karen and I love hearing from those that are moved to message us. It truly does fuel our passion.

32:21 You are the reason we do this show, and knowing what you like and don't like, that's going to help us craft the very best show we can so that we can help raise the vibration of the planet together. Okay, I've kept you from the interview long enough, so let's get to it. Thanks for listening. I'm so glad you're asking this because I think you're right. I think there's all these concepts that are thrown out there, and there is accuracy because there's truth in everything. But then I think we are ready for a bit more of an advanced conversation about Okay, we've heard all this, but like, how do we really like? Where's the rubber meet the road here, which is what I'm understanding that you're asking when you say how, it goes back to how can you not? Because why would you ask for something like it's already here. It's just that you haven't chosen that you want it.

33:24 But inside, because I've chosen it seventeen thousand times and it's never been there even though I chose it. You've chosen it, but you've chosen it from your belief system. Now, so let's just even go back to Okay, so you have an amazing podcast. This I love it. It's incredible, your dynamic everything. So you already are doing what you said that you wanted to do. However, you really, honestly, I don't even think that you're giving yourself the credit. And so in that way, you haven't chosen what you're saying. But there are metrics that we can follow that show that we aren't there. Right, So we do feel the show is fun and we have a great time, and people like you come on the show, and people who aren't even on the show tell us how wonderful the show is, how much they enjoy it, But we can't seem to get it in front of millions of people, which is what we would need to do in order to make this be our livelihood.

34:25 Well, you can't because you're looking at what's not there because you're looking at the metrics. So stop looking at the metrics. But whatever doesn't get measured doesn't get done. Right, which world do you want to play in? Ah, there's the rub right, that's the three D world that we're talking about. Right, how do you open the gate to the existential playground? Do you not? Is it? Is it just that we shouldn't just don't care? Well, this goes back to, Okay, we're working with your energetic currency. You just told me what you focus on that's not there? That is a That's that to me, that's a no brainer. You want to you want to play in the universal world because that's where the millions of people are. Then you have to let that go. And so it becomes a game of self awareness first and foremost. Now you know that you're like, okay, you can look at the metrics. What you can't make meaning out of the metrics. So you have to not look at the metrics or you're going to make meaning out of them because you're a human being, right, Sure, that's step one. What comes up from you there? Though, because all of this is all these answers have to be discovered.

35:25 That's another thing that people don't do. They want give me the nine hundred and fifty steps right now so I can make sure and measure myself with each one. No, it doesn't work that way unless you can't go back to the three D. So now what's coming up? Confusion? If if I don't look at the metrics, I won't know whether we're on the right path. Really, I mean really, why not tell me that? Go deeper on that. Why won't you know? Because metrics show you where, Okay, the show is being successful, it is being well received, whereas what I'm hearing you say is that we should be doing it for the love of what we're doing versus Oh.

36:10 No, I mean you're going to do something for the love of it. Anyways, you don't need me to tell you to do that, because that's what you're orienting the way that you're orienting. What I'm saying is that if you have ten things in front of you, and you have already acknowledged that one of them is shining a flashlight on what you don't have turn the flashlight off. That's all I'm saying. Because there's other things that you can look at. You have to choose from infinite possibility. What are the indicators? What are the other indicators that go beyond what everybody else looks at in the three D world? Because that is pulling you more into it. I think I get it. I think I get it. Yes, what I seek by Karen's look at confusion that she.

36:57 Does not, because then I would think, you know, you're talking about the other indicators. So if you're looking at other indicator, how's that different than looking as the metrics? At the metrics as an indicator? Well, because then you get to discover what does that indicator mean to you? Is that is that full of more possibility? Because all you're doing. Think of this as like you're going up the mountain. If I give you a backpack and it's causing you to walk really really really slow, and you're like, but no, I have to carry this backpack. I'm not gonna make it. But then this guy over here is like do do do doo walking past you, and you don't know what metrics he's looking at. All you know is he's walking past you.

37:37 So there's no truth. The only thing there is is do you want the accelerated effortless path. That's what you're looking for, and you can't find it in a metric that's telling you that you're not doing it right. It's not there. That metric is is devoid of anything for you because of your relationship with it. So what's our metric? What's our metric. That? I don't know? What do you think those messages that we get from people? I was just going to say the reviews, but then is that looking at. Reviews, not the reviews, but the messages. But I mean, yeah, we just got a voicemail today, seven second, seven second voicemail that all it was was I really appreciate your show.

38:23 MM. How did that make you feel? Yea? So maybe I think that's what you're thinking about, what you're talking. About, Yes, because there's something inside of that, right, And even just I saw the look on your guys's face, the energy between the two of you, the interaction, right, bringing yourself back to that, right, there's something inside of that. So let's just like, you know, throw darts against the wall, who is that person? What if you now you've shared that, right? So what you've done, you have you have actually expanded that pod that energy, right, what else is going on that is reflecting back to you? That is a signal that is pulling you out there because there is some opportunity, something that's going to happen in your life when you're in an open state of being like that, that is going to give you your next answer and your next answer and your next answer.

39:16 A New Reality TV is a streaming platform we launched in January. Okay, that's out now. So is that what you mean? Like? It? Don't? It is? Can you? Can? You? I mean that sounds like you've got something incredible to give people, which goes exactly with who you are. What am I going to get from that? Well? So the three D me says, it can be a vocation, It could be a way for me to take care of my family, to provide for my family. No, I'm saying, what am I going to get from this amazing content that's sitting there that you're giving away for free? What are you going to get or see? If I were to listen to it? Like I'm a listener?

39:59 Uh So it's it's actually television, so you be able to see and hear all these messages. It's really it's it's a one place where everyone can go to find their path, no matter what it is, because there's so many different paths. It's a safe place for you to go that you know you're not gonna be served any fear based content. You're not going to feel like you're being sold anything. You're going there specifically just to learn to grow and to feel better about yourself and mankind. Amazing. So if you carry just the energy of that, you drop all the details we're drawn in, because then you have given me an invite. You haven't told me the stuff that's not relevant to me. You've given me just and I'm like, whoa, Okay, wait, there's it's a no brainer. Does is this kind of makeing sense? It ends up being our responsibility to be aware of what other people are wanting to receive. You know, when you mentioned empathy, it's a flavor of that, so that we can let go of the things that are bothering us so that we think they're important and we are literally that's service, Like you're in service if you have taken if you have gone taken it to the level where you're going to remove all the gunk that I don't want to hear about, and you're just going to tell me.

41:28 And even said you love to be a storyteller. That's storytelling. You're just storytelling with energetic currency, which is just sharing and expressing you, which is actually connecting you. Money is actually connection. People just can't stand the concept of that. Do you get it? Why are you asking me? Because I think I get it. I think I think I get it. Yeah, okay. So there's one thing that puts a wrench into my thought processing all this, and that is the need to feel secure, right, the need to sock away one hundred thousand dollars in a bank in case of right.

42:12 From when we get old, well. Not just when we get old. What if I lose my job, what if the you know, the economy tanks, what if whatever? Right if we lose our house? What what if we're definitely getting old? Yeah, yes, that's that's true. So and and I understand, I do understand what you're saying, and I love what you're saying, and it's it's going to go a long way towards helping me. I can't speak for Karen, but definitely me. But then the challenge that I run into is Okay, when is when is one hundred thousand dollars? Is that going to be enough? Or two hundred thousand dollars is going to be enough? Or three hundred thousand dollars is going to be enough? Because that's back to the three D like you were talking about. So what if your thought process is difficult to get out of a I need this to feel secure? How does someone get to that point? M?

43:07 Yeah, So, I mean you've you don't know, right, And I think you've already said that that you kind of brought that up in the question right, You're not gonna know is it one hundred thousand dollars? Is it? Is it three hundred thousand dollars? What is it? Right? So if you know that you don't know, then what you do is your standards are high enough again where you're not going to place your attention on that. You go, oh, I'm sweeping that away. I'm never going to ask myself that again because there's no answer to that. I'm going to take my attention instead and I'm going to look at where is my where is my normal set point with money right now? And what causes it to be that way. So like if you know, if I ask people, you know, is it is it difficult to make one hundred dollars a month? Most people would be like, no, that's easy, right. They don't think about it. Therefore, guess what happens every month consistently is one hundred dollars a month. Now, if you ask someone if they can make one hundred thousand a month, for some people, that's like, no, I have to do all this work, I don't have time.

44:06 I won't be able to be around the kids. Story, story, story, right, It's all just energy. But that's fine. So what that does is that tells us that your life, the way that you live your life, your self expression of who you are right now, does not support one hundred thousand a month. That is completely okay because you live an infinite possibility like everybody else. Do you really want that though? I mean, if you really want that, then what you'll do is you'll say, Okay, what choice am I going to make? It all comes down to a choice. It's no different. Do I really want steak for dinner? Am I going to drive across town? Am I going to get that? Am I going to put that into it? Yes, I'm making the choice. Let's get in the car and go.

44:52 We make it so challenging and difficult. And anytime something's challenging and in difficult, it's already outside of us. It's not outside of you to go and drive and get a stake across town. Yeah, but aren't we now back in three D where you have to put a certain amount of effort into making that one hundred thousand a month. No, you're making the choice. So you make the choice. Okay, I want one hundred thousand a month. Now, going back to this thing where you talked about people talk about Okay, you've got to create the feeling. Right when you think about making one hundred thousand dollars a month, what feeling naturally comes up in you?

45:34 Freedom? Freedom, say, relaxation. Okay, So what then comes up with you with what is that going to cost you? I don't know that I can answer that. I have no idea how to make one hundred thousand dollars a month. Is going to I mean, what is it going to cost you in your life? What are you going to have to do different? Who are you going to have to be that you're not? Right? Now? That's all that matters because there is a parallel reality of a will out there, that is, it's so easy to make one hundred thousand dollars a month that he forgets to mention it, Like what pull that down?

46:20 I need that will to mention it to me. There's not I could. I really have no idea how we would do that at this present point in time. I don't know that we are at that place where we can actually even imagine how to go about doing that. But you already have talked about the million, the reaching millions, and the expansion and all of that. Why is that separate from making one hundred thousand a month? Got it? So then you pulled yourself back into the world of energy, because what you did is you moved back towards everything is one. So when you find yourself in categories and going how and all of this, it's okay, But know that you you're you're wandering out into the forest again.

47:04 I'm just trying. I'm trying to picture this. I'm like, so we want to reach millions, then how do we do that? But and then doesn't that bring us back into looking at the numbers and the metrics. Let me ask you this if you were in a room right now, because it's easy to like picture this maybe okay, if you were in like a room, it don't have to be like a massive concert or something. Right, and there were a million people around you right now. It's dark, and they have their phones up or like a lighter going or whatever, and they're cheering, and then all of a sudden they get really quiet. What would you say to them?

47:46 I don't know. When you find that out, you can speak to them. Can you see why you can't speak to them now? I don't know. I'm like, I'm like visioning this. They're all really quiet. What would I say? But I can't speak to them because they're not paying attention because they're watching the concert and it's loud. So that's why I can't speak to them. Or you just ran away, You just ran away, you ran away. I mean I could speak to someone and maybe they could pass. The words, unless you're the concert right, well, then they will. Yeah. So you've got a million people just finished cheering you on and you got quite and then waiting on your next word. You're on stage, what do you say?

48:34 I would tell them all just to love everybody as much as they possibly can, because I say that all the time. You know, that's like my thing. I just try to She had the love, but I don't. I don't know that that's necessarily what we're going for here. What would you say to them? She didn't ask me, this is about you? Okay, so say that kind say say that, but say it to me as if that's the last thing I'm going to hear. How would you say it? Then? I would say, the most important thing I feel like you should do in your heart is to have love and show that kindness because it doesn't take any true effort to be kind and to be loving, and the simplest little word you can give to someone can actually change their lives for the better.

49:30 Wow. So I felt that, and I know you now. You see the difference you gave us you in that moment, and that is a magnetism that reaches millions. And by being that authentic you all the time, that's the way to magnetize exactly money neutrality. Right, You take on the responsibility that that is your effin standard, and your life will change so fast.

50:14 Okay, I get it now. Okay, that's that's incredibly profound, Elizabeth. That is it took us a long time to get there, but once we got there, we got it started crying. I know, good, thank you, thank you, Because this is a co creation, right, this is absolutely a from somewhere else co creation with three of us and the energy of the audience. I couldn't sider here and have this conversation otherwise. Right. The the vulnerability, the accessibility, the willingness, the love between the two of you, the dynamic, all that you've set up, it's all an integral piece. And when we start recognizing how important we actually are, then we'll stop placing all the emphasis on everybody else and we'll start giving ourselves permission to do these things.

51:11 Damn, Mike dra was profoundly cow. All right, well, I'm looking at the time and I'm dreading what I'm I'm gonna have to say. But before before we go, can you give us an example of someone that you have worked with that has taken this to heart and change your lives for the better. Gosh, example, when you do you have anything in particular, minds have so many different facets. Like someone who perhaps came to you who needed some help and you were able to get them to understand what we you walked us through and then they change our lives financially.

51:52 Forgive, I would say something that I see kind of a pattern that I see when people come in to the spiritual investor or whatever, is when they're willing to go vertical and let go, which, by the way, you guys, you eat, you let go, you can feel that you let go today right in order to let in. I see a shift within about two to three weeks of where people start to have this feeling where they look back on themselves because there actually is no time. We're just pulling down a new version. We've all felt this where we go along in life and maybe someone that we knew before came into or comes into our life again, and it's like they're talking about something that we used to laugh about, but we can't talk about it anymore, or like there's a type of food that we can't eat anymore. We just can't do it. So that's when you start to get that feeling you know that you've actually jumped timelines. And when you know that, then that becomes an access point and then whatever dream and goal and wish someone has, they start pulling it in. At that point, might have been a goal before that looked like Okay, I want a new car, but like it could be the same goal, but because they are a new version of themselves, they have a different access to that because basically their perception and their belief in their self has changed. What will happen is they will start to talk about that more freely because they'll start to believe that it's in their life. Right. So, you know,

53:23 I have, you know, just recent example, just you know, this week, a woman who she you know, she invests a lot of money and in her investing accountant that she decided that she wanted to buy a house and she wanted to pay cash for it. Well, then she got in the house and she thought she was going to like the house, and she's like, I don't really like the house, but I'm not going to put the house back on the market. What do I really want? So like she kept discovering what I really want, what I really want? She just dropped a message in the group this week, I decided I really just wanted to, you know, take my son out of school for a couple of weeks and just us just be able to travel together. And I've book tickets for us to go to Japan and here's a photo of us, and it's this has changed my life. Right. So it's like you get to know yourself, but you actually get to express yourself in a different way. And so that abundance it shows up in your life, in relationships, it shows up in your She also got an offer from a crypto firm, so she has a big job waiting for So it's just like it starts to kind of blow your mind a little bit, and if you let it blow your mind, it won't slow you down.

54:31 Cool. I love that. So talk to about the spiritual investor? Is that is that? How does that work? If someone wants to be part of it or work with you? How does that work? Yeah, so it's three levels. There is a club level, which is seventeen dollars a month. That's if anybody just wants to start, you know, scratch the surface and go deeper on this. Also, I teach people how to get started investing, because that's a lot of what I do is you learn to call money in. Well, you don't want to keep having to go out there, and you know, like we want to get away from the earned income because that's the old model. How can you take money and then start allowing money to expand for you. So that's a really great place for people to start. Is that is that is the club. If you want to be you know, you want to learn a bit more about investing, or you want to go into the actual practices of all of this, we have advanced and that's about two hundred dollars a month. And then if you want to really go vertical, which this is, that's kind of the gold standard. A lot of people they come in and they want to do this. That's the that's the Spiritual Investor Mastermind. And that's where I work with you directly for twelve weeks. And I can't I mean, you can imagine if we did this for twelve weeks, right, It's like even your family doesn't know you at that point, right, wow?

55:53 Right? And I think you were gracious enough to provide an offer for those that are actually listening right now. I you know, I would love to invite all of the listeners in to the Spiritual Investor Club for free and just let them poke around, let them try it. We've got stock picks for you. We've even got you know, live calls in there where we do kind of things like this, and you can put post questions and stuff, so it's a discovery space. Very cool. Well, we're going to add that information to our show notes. Thank you for that. That's incredible. If you're listening to this right now, or you're watching this right now and you want to experience it, then go to our show notes to go to the description down below, and you will see what you have to do to access that special discount, that special offer that you're offering. So, Elizabeth, I could talk to you for ever, or I should say I could be counseled by you.

56:44 For ever, to you for us right right. So you know, I think I have an idea of maybe on a monthly basis, we can have a spiritual investor give us like a stock tip, this month's stock tip, right, just so we can get like a free counseling sessions. Time. This has been wonderful. It certainly opened up my mind, my eyes, and I think I've got a lot of thinking to do. I know you think you're thinking in the right direction, and you're like, what the hell? Yeah, I was like, what would I think it? For God's sake, So if someone wanted to take advantage, we're going to put that the information in the show notes.

57:28 But someone's to reach out to you specifically. Is that the best place to go to connect with you? Well, they could listen to the Spiritual Investor podcast. That's that's one. I would say Instagram though, just send me a DM on Instagram. I answer all the questions. I'm happy to help you. It's it's just my full name, just Elizabeth Ralph. That you'll also learn a lot because I put a lot of this stuff in little video. So that's that's you know, it's kind of you can pick your flavor on it. I guess very cool. Or we're going to add that to those show notes as well so you can have access to it. All you need to do is go is keeptic in a position dot com, go to her episode page and you'll see that those links lady in there directly, so it's easy for you to access. You don't have to hunt, and packets right there for you. Elizabeth, thank you so much for being on the show. This has been truly inspiring. I thank you, Yes, I thank you for teaching us a thing or two. And we look forward to seeing how this affects those that are listening because it certainly affected us. I'm looking forward to seeing what happens with anyone else too.

58:23 God, thank you, And I just want to say that if you weren't so incredible and open and like just literally the vibration of love, there's no way this would have happened. So thank you, thank. You, well, very kind of you to say thank you so much. All right, thanks for being on the show. We've talked again soon