One of the featured experts and authors on the documentary “The Secret”, this week’s guest has taken the metaphysical elements of the law of attraction and combined them with the science of neuroplasticity and come up with an ingenious way to help us mere humans rewire our brains so that we can manifest the lives that we really want, instead of the one that we're forcing down on ourselves with our thoughts. Learn about the Transformational Personality Types and how they influence our manner of thinking to manifest the lives of our dreams.
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Will: [00:00:00] Once again, the universe has conspired to force me out of my comfort zone and into the solo spotlight by creating an obstacle that was impassable for Karen's presence on the show today. So you're stuck with just me, but as with past episodes, I'll do my best to make up for you by bringing you one of the most fascinating guest experts we've had on the show.
We've spoken about the law of attraction before. It's easily one of the most requested topics we've gotten to cover, so this time around
I'm incredibly fortunate to be accompanied by Bob Doyle, who is one of the featured experts and authors on the documentary. The Secret Bob has taken the metaphysical elements of the law of attraction and combined them with the science of neuroplasticity and come up with an ingenious way to help us mere humans to rewire our brains so that we can manifest the lives that we really.
Not the one that we're forcing down on ourselves with our thoughts.
Will: This is the skeptic Meta Physicians and Bob, welcome and thank you for coming on the show.
Bob: It is great to be here. Thanks so much. Yeah.
Will: This is an exciting topic for us. We have covered it before, but not quite like this. We're gonna get into all the stuff about The Secret in your, process and all that kind of stuff, But let's set the table first and tell us your story.
How did you come across the. Thought process or the motivation to talk about this law of attraction type of thing.
Bob: So it was not on my radar, and I will try and make this as, as brief as possible, but [00:02:00] I, I always wanted to be a broadcaster and I still, that's at heart. That's what I am. I like to get on. A microphone or on video and just, you know, be a goofball and entertain.
And that's what I set out to do. And then, but when I did that for the first seven years, I was in a major market and I was just too low on the totem pole to be able to do all the crazy crap I wanted to do. So being young, I got impatient and it just said, All right, fine, I'll go find something else to do.
And that led to like jumping around from career to career, trying to find something where I could express myself creatively. Cuz that's really what drives me and I really believe what. Most people, if they, if they're not feeling like they're being, being able to express themselves, that's when they start to get depressed and anger and all, all that, the, the trouble starts.
But that, but nothing I was doing was bringing me joy or making me the money I needed. And it was just like I felt and I was, and I got pretty clear that I was not, um, a great employee. More of an entrepreneur because of my, I wanna do things my way, behavior , which persists to this day, I can tell [00:03:00] you. But, but, so that seemed to be the, So any business I tried, any little idea just didn't, wasn't working.
And that's what got me looking for answers down the more metaphysical path, because I was, I was the son of, still am of a school teacher. And so I grew up kind of like, you know, logical, analytical and all of that. And, This as I was exploring the like more, what's the invisible reason that things are failing for me and I'm looking at, and I'm learning about meditation and visualization and the whole concept that we can create our reality.
And of course, something in me wants that to be true, and I wanna believe that. But the, the skeptic in me was like, Well, I don't know. So, but I studied and studied and studied and that finally led me to sort of the quantum physics aspects of it. And that my mind liked like, because suddenly, Thoughts and be, you know, the, the energetic nature of our thoughts became more of a tangible thing for me.
And I could see where, although I was saying out loud, I wanted all of these things in my life, I was what I was actually be, you know, telling myself internally was a very [00:04:00] different story about how hard money was to come by and how persistent that was gonna be, because that was my life experience that was, Literally how I was wired.
I wasn't using the wired terminology back then, but that guided all of my behavior. So when I started using some of these law of Attraction principles to sort of change my mindset, like creating a vision board or whatever, um, and I started to get results, things changed in my life, and that ignited an enthusiasm for what I had learned and that I kind of put it all together in this first iteration of a program called Wealth Beyond.
And I put it out there, it was 95% other people and 5% my input. But, but as that program grew and spread and all of that, I made it a, a pretty, pretty important decision about who I was going to be in this conversation. I say this because it pertains exactly to what we're talking about and what I'm teaching, but I wasn't thinking about it in terms of how this was affecting my brain and my biology.
But, but I determin. Instead of being a facilitator of all this information, just sort of a [00:05:00] conduit. I wanted to be someone who could actually deliver these concepts, make a difference, communicate them in a way that would make a difference. And as soon as I own that as my way of being, that's when, if you will, I got all those downloads.
You know, It's just like, Oh my God, content is pouring through me. I'm, And it created this monster of a program that's, That program is what Ronda Burn, who created the Secret found in her research. That's how I ended up in that project because I think she wanted that voice. The, just the normal guy who kind of stumbled into this wasn't in the personal development industry really for, you know, like, not like Jack Handfield and Bob Proctor and all those other people in there.
So I was just this. Normal voice who explained it in a grounded way, and I think that's just how she, she wanted that voice in there as you can as you, if you watch the Secret, you can see there's all sorts of teaching angles in there. So that's how I got in that. So that's kind of part one of the story.
And I'll breathe now.
Will: Well, so, so most of the people that have, that are listening to our voices right now probably are familiar with the Secret [00:06:00] and the principles behind it. Mm-hmm. . but in a nutshell, for any of those who are listening, who might not know the concepts, can you put them in a nutshell for us, it, it's, it's really just think.
Positive thoughts or is it a lot more than that? Well,
Bob: I, Here's the thing. The reason I do what I do now is because people spend a lot of time trying to figure out the law of attraction, what it is, what it isn't. What's the right technique? Oh, I'm doing it wrong. Oh crap, I had a negative thought. I've ruined everything.
All of that I've been listening to for 20 years and, and because I had an aha moment about the law of attraction and the science of it early, I figured, well, if I could just give everybody that aha moment, they'll have the same results too. But I learned that people are all really wired differently, and that's not gonna necessarily give them the results.
What gives a person results is they change their inner conversation on an ongoing basis about what's true for them and who they have to be in the world to get the results. They. So it became a, you know, a, after teaching and coaching these principles for 20 years [00:07:00] and watching people get frustrated with themselves about the law of attraction and understanding it.
That's why I've gone this way. But here's how I used to explain it. And a lot of people would use like, like attracts like, or what you focus on expands and all of those. And, and that has truth in it. But I wanted to go a little bit more than that. And, and so what I would say is that we attract into our experience.
Those things with which we are in vibrational resonance. So the universe is all energy. We're energy. Our thoughts are energy. And the very nature of energy is if it resonates, it kind of comes together. And if it doesn't, it, it, it, you know, you're literally resisting it. So that's how I would explain it.
And I had these cute little diagrams and everything about showing what resistance was and how it would work and not heads nodding and all of that stuff. But when it came to implementing that information was not what was important. Understanding the law of attraction and getting it, and it, it's like, it's, it's fine if you're interested in, and this is a guy who spent two decades doing this, but what I'm learning is it's fine if you want to study all the ins and [00:08:00] outs of it, great.
But don't let that stop you from doing the important work that's going to create lasting change. Permanent transformation only takes place if your brain is wired to support new behavior, to get new results. The law of attraction is absolutely working in the. Based on all the stuff we talk about, your energy and your vibration.
But if you put so much focus on getting your vibration right and worrying about if you're doing it right, I'm telling you I've seen it over and over. It just slows the process down. We're not, we weren't created with this ability to obsess over it. We were created with this ability to use it. We have this amazing brain that creates our realities with our imagination and we're, we're using it.
For the most part.
Will: And I guess that's where the neuroplasticity comes in, where you actually have to train your brain into thinking a different way so that it does stick. Because to your point, people are saying, Oh my gosh, I had a negative thought, so that ruined everything. I gotta start from, from scratch.
Uh, in, in a very, in a very real way. one might argue [00:09:00] that it's not one negative thought you've had, but rather, uh, an entire negative way of being subconsciously your thought. Affect you without you even realizing it. So the ne that one negative thought might be echoing feelings that you have within yourself at some point that.
Truly your your real reality,
Bob: right? And this is the thing, we are not aware of all of that. It's, it's so autopilot, it's so hardwired that we're not, we're not conscious of how, what's going on on an automated basis. And we've got a truth that is created from all the input we received from age zero to seven or whatever, and we were just saying yes to everything.
So we took on the values and beliefs of whoever was telling us. And they may have very limited belu, uh, beliefs about what's possible for you or for people or them, their family or whatever. So it's not surprising that we get wired with this skewed version of the truth, but it's everybody has their own truth and that's really an important thing to know.
Is that everybody's looking at the world through a slightly different lens, which is ba, which is built around their wiring, [00:10:00] and that wiring drives them into behavior. They make meaning out of a situation and based on the meaning they make it, they're either gonna take action or they're not gonna take action based on that.
So every result you have in your life, it comes down to how are you wired? So if you're not happy with the results in your life, it is always gonna come back to how you're wired, the decisions you're making, the dreams you have for yourself. What will you allow yourself to do? Your brain is ready to learn amazing things.
Even today, no matter how old you are. We learned to walk. And by the way, it took us a lot of time and we fell down a bunch of times and, and we didn't stand up and go, I guess the universe doesn't want it. And that's what Law of Attraction people will sometimes do if it doesn't happen two or three times in Cuz they go, Well, I'm supposed to be in the flow.
So I guess the whatever that's just, and, and that's, that, that's the kind of like, it got the, the Law of Attraction conversation very easily gets into too much magical thinking. There's some great science behind it that seems magical, but people just want it to be what they want it to. And it's not what everybody [00:11:00] necessarily wants it to be.
And I'm saying, you don't even have to think about it if you don't want to. Right. And you
Will: bring up a great point because there is that whole woo part of it that says, uh, well maybe I'm not meant to have it at this point in time. So you're saying in essence, in a nutshell that you can have.
Whatever you set your mind to. It doesn't matter whether the universe says you're ready for it or not. If you want it and you work your, the way that you're talking about, you could certainly have it as long as your, your vibrational
Bob: frequencies is aligned with that. Yeah. Let's get real clear on this whole paradigm of the universe wanting something for us.
If the universe wants anything, it wants what we want, instead of this whole concept of we are asking the universe for things I'd, I invite. To turn it upside down and say the universe is asking of us to go be that person that we are filled with the passion to be. We've given, we've been given something very unique, the things that we wanna do, the dreams that we have, exactly how we wanna do them.
And we've been given a brain that if we just send it the right information on a [00:12:00] consistent basis, we can learn just about any. You know, in anything and take on now, yes, it's gonna take a lot of feedback and quote unquote failure. You're gonna take your, you're gonna pay your dues just like everybody who has ever succeeded and gotten the thing that you want.
They did this journey too, but people get the law of attraction. Well, I just wanna manifest all of it without the journey. It's too bad because you can't be that person without the journey. How are you gonna, how are you gonna be that person without got, getting there doing the behavior that got you there?
It's, I mean, we used to talk all the time about the lottery winners. You know, they'd win the lottery and then it'd be gone. And it's not just because they were energetically not ready for it. They also weren't ready in real life. They didn't have accounts or investment set up. They had no financial sense whatsoever.
So it's all logical. It's all logical too. So if you want to have a bazillion dollars or whatever, and you're really clear on why and who, who you need to be in that, you know, you'll do the things that the Bazillionaires do and they have stuff set up [00:13:00] to make sure that that bazillion does what it needs to do.
They don't just sit around and wait for a bazillion dollars and then go, Well, I guess I should open up a checking account, I guess. I don't know.
Will: Lots to talk about Don, that rabbit hole. but you. Reminded me of something else as you're talking, on your website, uh, I went, when I was doing a little bit of research on you, you have a quiz that people can take.
Takes no time at all. I did it right before we started, uh, this interview. Just to, just to appease my curiosity, uh, And I came out as being, uh, a seeker. And on, uh, on your site, after you take the test, there's a, a video that kind of has you explaining what this means, really in the scope of who I was as a person and my lot in life when it comes to law of attraction and things like that.
And you mentioned that a seeker. As I am is always looking to find information and, uh, self-improve themselves and all that kind of stuff, but falls maybe [00:14:00] just slightly short of implementing all the information that they are. Accessing. So you put up, you brought up a great point a little bit earlier about the fact that you, unless you actually take that information and put it to action, uh, it's not gonna get you anywhere.
but if I'm a seeker, I'm curious how many other types of people out there and how could they be making mistakes?
Bob: Well, first of all, Seeker is the number. Like by far, like 75% of the people are seekers, and that makes sense that they would find a quiz like that. They're, they're looking to you. Better themselves.
They're listening to podcasts like this. So yeah, they're out there looking for ways to grow. And again, with as with all of these types, there's nothing wrong with any of them. And just because you are, you fall into that type, it doesn't mean you're gonna sabotage your success. The reason I have the quiz is for people who feel like they're doing all the right things, but they keep running up against very similar blocks.
They sabotage themselves or something falls apart from the outside whenever there's a pattern. [00:15:00] Right. I say, Well, let's go see. Let's go shine a light on your autopilot behavior and let's see how you behave in terms of transformation. It, it is a transformation personality type quiz. It's only about that.
It's only about how you approach changing something significantly in your life. And so the seeker, you know, they, they, they get excited about things and they've tried this, and they tried that and they tried this. But what happens is it's not always. Action cuz sometimes they'll take the action. It's just consistent.
You see our wiring takes place and it holds, and those neural pathways grow and become permanent because it's consistent. It's the same self talk we're giving ourselves subconsciously decade after decade, which is why this process takes a little bit longer than the three to seven days. A lot of people will promise you we, we don't know how long it's gonna take for you to rewire, but I can tell you what you need to do and that is to replace the auto you've.
Figure out what, what your autopilot wiring is so that you can become aware enough to change it. And that's why we have the quiz. So the other three types just quickly [00:16:00] are this skeptic, which is what I would've tested as, um, you know, back at the beginning. And it's the person who once. They want all of it, but it's like, well, I don't know this law of attraction thing or whatever the, the, the basic pattern of this type of skeptic, and again, there's certainly nothing wrong with being skeptical about things because it stops you from doing a lot of dumb stuff.
But in this context, I'm talking about the person who every time they run across an opportunity that could make their lives better, they run it through the question, why won't this work for. And if you ask that question, you're going to get those answers, but the skeptic could ask the question, How could this work for me?
It's this, they can still, and that's still a question that comes from all the logic and reason that a skeptic wants to have, you know, to not make a dumb decision, but to ask a question, How could this work for me? If they start doing that, when the opportunities come up, they're gonna get those answers and then maybe they'll actually step into one.
The skeptic gets to be right about nothing working for them because they never will do anything because they poke [00:17:00] holes in it before they even start. So they, they get that little haha. Gonna be made a fool of, but they also never get to really grow the way they want to because it's a, this kind of growth is going to mean that you're gonna have to step through comfort zones.
You're gonna have to go through all kinds of belief systems. It's gonna challenge everything about your belief system. So your skeptic skepticism of, uh, you know, your skeptic nature is of course going to to come up. And if you don't recognize and go, Oh, that's just wiring. I'm gonna take this action anyway, then you're always gonna be.
Will: full disclosure, about a year ago when I first started the show, that 100% was me. Now, over the course of the last year, with all the conversations and dialogues that we've been having, I find it interesting that I have transformed into a seeker mm-hmm. , because I'm no longer as skeptical as I was.
I was afraid of being looked at as a. By believing some of these things. Mm-hmm. , now I don't really care because I know what's, what's real and what's not. Now I just really, really, really, really, really want it, but [00:18:00] I don't wanna work
Bob: for it. So Right. Well, that dovetails right into the third one, which is the wizard.
And, and here's the thing also about these types is you might test for one or more of these in any given day, just depending on what's going on in your life. It, there's, there's value in seeing that behavior. From all of those traits, all you want to identify all your autopilot behavior. So Wizard was the wizard is the person who.
Again, loves, loves the ritual of it, loves the vision boards, loves the visualization, loves the meditation, loves the whole energy conversation and the resonance. They are manifesting. Ah, right. It, but, but what they tend to run into the non-action piece, like the universe has got me on this. I don't need to, I, you know.
No, no, no. I'm not gonna work. I'm not gonna work that. But they just really under need to understand that it is not them and the universe. We're all the universe and we're, we're working. It's a symbiotic relationship and we're creating a vision for ourselves, and we're defining who we're gonna be and we're going to [00:19:00] take action.
And the universe, if you're going to go down that road, is gonna deliver you the things to respond to based on your vi. But you can also look at it when and just completely not even think about vibration and energy. And just think about the logical outcome of changed behavior on your part is a changed response from the universe.
The people you re deal with, I mean, they, if you be different, they, they're not gonna treat you the same. They can't, it doesn't make any sense. Then that's how change happens. So can you clarify,
Will: because it seems like the secret and wizard are, are pretty close to each other. What, what are
Bob: the, Well, the seeker, it doesn't necessarily, the seeker isn't necessarily a magical thinker.
They just choose a lot of things. They could be very logical about their approach or whatever and not be in division boards or it doesn't matter. But the, but the, but the wizard is more, you know, has that, that sort of invisible. Edge to it, and, and I was, If I, if I had been tested, I would've been secret, I mean a skeptic slash wizard, because once I started learning about more about physics and the energetic nature of the [00:20:00] universe, it, it did inspire, like that wizard type of nature that we all do have.
I mean, we are doing this, but there's, there's action involved too. It's not just like we're waiting and then just, Okay, here we go. It's a dance. Okay, so the last one is people pleaser. And the people pleaser is a tough one because it's so emotional and you, you, you almost touched on it a minute ago, but the people pleaser again, they've been awakened to possibility for their life.
They've got a whole new vision. They've got this passion burning. They, maybe they saw the secret, maybe they went to Tony Robbins. I don't know what it is. But now they're ready to go and they start trying to be that, and then mom gives 'em a look and dad says, What are you doing? And their friends go, What are you?
What, Right And there, everybody starts to squirm around them a little bit because of what's going on. And they make you feel less than or give you a look. You know what I'm talking about. And so the people pleaser get shut down by that. They put their dreams on hold or stop them completely for the comfort, the alleged comfort of others.
They just don't, They don't want to have those [00:21:00] conversations and they don't wanna make those people uncomfortable. But here's the thing, the people pleaser needs to really get, and I know they know it on some level. Them not following their dreams is not gonna make these people any more com, uh, comfortable.
They have an inherent discomfort which you poked at with your expression of your dream. It's still in there and you haven't changed that. And meanwhile, you've given up the life that you're here to live. How do I know it's here for you to live? Cause you're inspired to live it. You're not, it's not like accidental that you've got these passions.
It's like there, so go for it. And if you don't, you're basically committing a form of spiritual suicide. What, whose life are you? If you're not gonna live yours, the one you want. It's not theirs and it's not yours. It's just sort of this blah. So the best thing you can do for those people obviously, is go for your dream and achieve it.
There is no guarantee they will get inspired and follow like you want them to and go, I see the light. Right? They might though a hundred percent better chance of them doing that if you do it. But meanwhile, you're gonna go have your dream. You're gonna attract a whole new group of people around [00:22:00] you who see you for who you are, who support you, and lift you up and continue on that journey.
And it's not a struggle anymore getting, You don't need validation, getting validation from a bunch of people who can't dream as big as you.
Bob: dream as big as you. Hmm.
Will: These are fascinating. And These are fascinating. And you can look through each one of them and go, Yeah. It makes perfect sense. I know someone in probably every single one of those buckets, very, very easily.
Perhaps maybe my my own family.
Bob: Yeah, no, I'd say ta give 'em the quiz. I, because seriously, I mean, it, it's, I don't know the dynamic there, but it is just sort of, It is all about shining a light on in a way.
And so if a person shines the light on themselves by taking a quiz, they don't feel like coached by somebody. It just depends on how people are. I know I. I'm definitely one of those [00:23:00] people who like, please do not offer me unsolicited coaching, cuz I'll, you know, I'll listen, but I'm like, I, I wasn't ready , you know, I'll tell you when.
So, and that's just how I've approached my entire career. Like, I've never wanted to force any of this. I don't debate any of these principles. And, and the thing with the law of attraction, there was a lot of that people wanted to debate about, Yeah, what about this, what about that? And, uh, I had, I had a cousin.
Or you can talk about, Hey, you know what, what transformation is, is your brain changing? Everybody agrees that your brain can change. So it's just a matter of how do you want to change it and what do you need to do? And that's what my work is about. So there's no more going on for hours and hours about vibrational resonance or any of that.
We get into what, what do you want your life to be and who do you need to be to have that life? And then let's just get your brain. Let's just start telling your brain how to be that person. Just like when you learned a new language or learned how to cook or anything else, it's the same thing. You're, you're getting new information, you're feeding it in, you're trying it on, you're putting it out into practice.
You're getting feedback, you're making adjustments, and then [00:24:00] the next thing you know, you're a different person.
Will: It's a very nice little pragmatic package that, that comes with it that helps a lot of people. Like I used to be who don't really believe in all the woo. it's, it's a really nice way of bringing, like, to your point earlier on quantum physics into the whole equation so that you can kind of wrap your head around how's something like this could potentially
Bob: work for you.
Uh, but even so, I don't even put, I now, I don't even do the quantum. , I just talk about neuroplasticity. The, the fact that our brain can change and if a person wants to, once they get that and aren't gonna obsess over the law, then I'll talk about the energy and the vibration and all of that stuff all day.
As long as the person's not, like, depending on understanding that before they'll take an action that's gonna make a difference for themselves. Right?
Will: So it's really just about changing the way you think.
Bob: I mean at the, At the, At its core. Yeah. As it really is basically that simple, how are you processing information?
What meaning are you making out of the input that the universe is giving you on a moment to moment basis? [00:25:00] And what is that? What is that meaning? What action is that meaning moving you into? People really believe that they have free will because they feel like they're making conscious choices. But when you think about it, when you really think.
All of those conscious choices are being created dis determined by your wiring, which we have already determined may be extremely faulty and not in your best interest. And so we just have to, And so that's that owning that, like being able to just say, You know what? I don't know anything. Like letting go of all of that is huge.
It's a huge first step. And the other thing you have to be willing to do, which is very difficult for people, is to let go of all of your limiting stories that you tell about why you didn't do this or how they did this to you or whatever. No matter how true quote unquote they are. If you continue to tell those stories and be that person, you will continue to get the result of that person, cuz you will just use that to justify [00:26:00] not taking critical.
And you'll say, But yeah, I know, but, but I'm hurting because of my dad or whatever. Okay, hang on to the story if you want to, but you'll never get where you want to go, because guess what? That successful person doesn't tell that story. It's not in their, unless they're telling it from a stage with no emotion until you know that that was their jumping point.
And I determined right there that I would never again. That's when you can tell the story, but you don't tell it to justify where you are ever again. Like the first time I get a coaching client or whatever and they tell me the story and I go, Okay, great. Now never tell that story again. And it's hard because that's their identity and sometimes it's been their identity for decades with their entire life.
And I'm asking them to basically give up their identity. That's one of the reasons why transformation is so challenging for people, because if they're just focused on the stuff they wanna attract, that's not. They need to know who is what's filling the void of this identity that I'm giving up. It's who you're gonna be, that's gonna bring you the happiness, that's gonna help you determine all how all this [00:27:00] stuff that you attract or manifest feels to you.
Cause we've all, Look, I had the experience myself of manifesting the stuff with the empty feeling because I didn't adjust. Who am I gonna be about this? You know, it's not like it's one thing to be the version of you who just wants it because you're lacking it. That's, that's how so many people approach the law of attract.
Its like, I, I want to attract all this stuff to fill this void in my life. And that energy, if you wanna look at the energy of that, it's not very good. And it also doesn't move you into any kind of inspired action. You're still thinking like that small person. That small person doesn't take bold. You have to create the bold version of you in your mind and use your brain to imagine and imagine, and imagine, and rehearse that behavior and let new wiring take place so that becomes your new autopilot, so that your new autopilot response in life is, is quote unquote effortless.
Will: So what about those folks? That are just coming out of therapy. They didn't realize what their story was. Now suddenly they realize that what their [00:28:00] story is and now find themselves where, okay, I've, I've realized why I've been sabotaging my life. Mm-hmm. , and, I need to move on from that.
But the. Constantly talk about, you need to hang onto those thoughts, emotions, feel them, relive them so that you can then move beyond them.
Bob: Well, I have lots of different ways to, to, to deal with emotion stuff. I mean, there's therapy, but if it's, if, if it really, if the net result of the therapy is hanging onto it, then clearly that's not gonna serve you.
Most of my stuff is around release techniques, like emotional freedom techniques, which you probably heard of. There's, there's other ones that just help you deal with. Deal with that emotional eruption that happens in those autopilot moments so that it doesn't have to overcome you and overtake you and guide your next behavior.
Because again, that auto, when you're in that autopilot response, if you're in upset, your body's gonna produce a ton of chemicals and it's gonna be, even if you know you're in autopilot mode, it's gonna be harder to not. [00:29:00] You know, to change your behavior in that moment when you're overtaken by your own body's chemistry, cuz it's super, super strong and it feels really true and real and all of your reactions feel 100% justified.
But if you've done the work ahead of time to know that, that is just a wired response, it's not true. And if you've done the work ahead of time to know exactly how you're going to be in that situation, then it's just a matter of doing it, trying it on being it as uncomfortable as it's going to be because we're growing.
We, we've, we have shifted who we've been being ever since we were born. And we've done this, We've rewired many, many times, but it's all been mostly on autopilot. What we're talk and, and over the course of years and decades, what we are taking on now, when we're taking on significant personal transformation is we are.
Trying to do that a lot faster than life normally does it. So we're gonna feel the resistance a a lot more than we do every day. If we're just kind of coasting through life, going on autopilot and seeing what, Well, I'll just respond to this situation. If you're trying to make something [00:30:00] happen and you have to be significantly different, oh my God, you're gonna feel that a lot stronger than anything else.
And you, if you can just celebrate it and go, Yes, I'm about to grow. That's why I'm feeling this way. other than, Oh, this is too hard, or this means defeat, or the universe doesn't want it for me. Like, just expect that resistance to come. Use whatever tools you can get your hands on to move through it smoother, but just keep chipping away at that vision of this new self and just know that, that, that discomfort is, is part of the growth process and growing is what this is all about.
Will: So I know that you've mentioned earlier that you really don't know how long it's gonna take for someone to, to change their, their story, right? Uh, some people say, Oh, within three to seven days you get the life you wanted. What? I know it's hard to, to pin down a timeframe, but if you had, to guess kind of an average, like what should, how much time does someone expect to, to have to go through this?
Bob: Well, here's the thing. There's scientific data that kind of all over the place, like [00:31:00] 45 days. To form a new hire habit or new wiring, but that means 45 days of consistently new thoughts, not 45 days since you bought a program or read a book or saw a movie. It's every day you're correcting all the time, and that's what people don't do.
Because they just don't have the support system. Life doesn't give us that support system we're attracted by. I mean, we're surrounded by a bunch of people who probably aren't as big thinking as some of us are, and so we run into all that resistance and we don't have the support to move through. It's very easy to get stopped or slowed when you don't have either coaching or a group support or whatever, because we're talking again about 24 hours a day.
Your brain is doing. It's sending some message, and if you're not overriding the constant message that's got you in the whatever place you're in that you want to change, unless you're overriding it on a consistent basis, which will seem harder at first than after a while, then how do you expect things to change?
You can't [00:32:00] expect. Life to change. If you're just taking a few minutes each day to do a visualization or do a meditation or think a positive thought or post a meme, you have to be diligent about how your brain is working. This is serious stuff here, but so worth it. But it's that, but it's uncomfortable piece that makes most people bail.
And then the seeker will just go, Oh, I'm gonna find something easier. I'm gonna find something easier. I'm gonna find something easier. And then, Literally 10 years later, they're still looking for something easier. I feel so
Will: attacked. .
Bob: These are hypothetical people. Sure, sure. I'm not, I'm not talking about anyone in particular.
Will: No. We know, we, we we're poking phone at, at a situation because I'm uncomfortable, but that's just what it is, but the reality of the situation. So really it is, it is a, just a, a radical lifestyle change for all intent purposes. You have to live. It's not just a simple three to seven day process.
Bob: If you, Yeah, if you want a radically different lifestyle, then [00:33:00] it starts with a radically different way of being.
And of course you're not gonna know exactly what that looks like or how that is right away because you've never lived it. So that's part of the process too, of working with somebody to help you get that vision and, and think bigger than you can possibly think, because literally people just think small.
Again, from a law of attraction point of view, we talk about what that's much better energy. It's more in resonance with whatever. But you will also, if you're feeling easier about things, feeling more at ease, about living a bigger lifestyle, you will be different in the world with people and you will get different results.
You'll take different action. You might be a little bit more bold. You might be, have it [00:34:00] tapped into a greater sense of creativity cuz you're not stressed about stuff all the time and that's what's gonna support this lifestyle. Okay, so
Will: you've. What do I do? What is my first step towards
Bob: making this change?
Well, your first step you took, you took the quiz, so you now know at least, and now we've talked through some of the types. So maybe you've seen some of that behavior, you know, in some of the other types. So it's really about, about, now that you know that. Um, if you see behavior in your life that you know, that is stopping you, like, Okay, this is, I, this speaks to me and here's a situation where I get into seek mode or move, or I whatever.
You know, once you, then it's about imagining, well, how would I like to be in that, in that moment? Because really this is about transformation. My conversation, what I help people do is transform, so, How do you want to change? How do you want to transform? What are some of the characteristics that you think you have now that might be slowing you, that you'd like to have a more, you know, a different version of, to feel more empowered to take bold [00:35:00] action, to get bigger results?
Do you know why you want bigger results? Do you have that vision of your future? Have you imagined who you need to be in it? These are all like the starting things that I help people with. It's all like every day when I work with people, they have a thing to do every day and it. The day starts with a visualization and ends with a visualization.
And, and I would recommend this to you. So at the beginning of every day, I have people look at the day ahead, the, uh, you know, they know what they're gonna do. Obviously there's always surprises. But if you know you've got a thing and you know that this is a thing where sometimes you get into that mode, you don't wanna be in that, you get that behavior.
Mm, I know this is not propelling me forward. Uh, so you get to imagine how would the ideal me be in that situation? And you get to run every possible scenario of how it could go and then how you will respond as that person who's got it all together, who's just this, this is no problem. So you imagine that and imagine that and you feel it.
All that law of attraction stuff [00:36:00] really feel it, right? Cuz that's what's gonna get the brain doing its thing. And then you go through your day and then when that situation pops up, you try on the new behavior that you rehearsed and rehearsed and rehearsed, and then you see what happens. And then at the end of the day, to bookmark that, you look back at your day and you go, Okay, where could I have done better?
What was the situation where I got into autopilot? Maybe I noticed I did, maybe I didn't, but I'm noticing it now. How would I have liked to have. And you run it and you run it and you run. It sounds repetitive, but it's really, this is the reality creation machine we've been given. I mean, you hear about it in sports athletics.
You know, athletes who rehearse their three point shot and then boom, go do it, or you know, that kind of thing. Our brain can absolutely do that, and we don't. We use our imagination to ruminate and worry, and we could be creating incredible behavior that's gonna get us incredible.
Will: And of course there's no better support system that someone like you that has the skill sets there to help coach someone so that you're constantly keeping this top of mind for someone.
So if someone wanted to reach out to you, obviously for the first thing to do is go to your website, [00:37:00] which is. meet bob doyle.com. You've got the quiz on there. You've got lots of, I mean, books galore, courses, you've got videos, you have all kinds of stuff on that site. So I would urge you to take that step to go to meet bob doyle.com first and foremost, and take that quiz and then see if this is something that, Bob could help you with.
Bob, I'm convinced I'm gonna, I'm gonna reach out to you cause I, I'm really curious to see how. Further my life can go, uh, with, without those self-sabotaging thought
Bob: processes. Yeah, you'll be amazed. And this, here's the thing, just leaving this thought for people. I mean, we're all humans.
We're all humans. And there's people out there who have done some incredible things and there's people out there who have done incredible things that got started later than you are right now. So it's like, it just doesn't matter. You gotta let go of any stories you have about why you can't and ask how could I, how could I, Would I need help?
Can I get assistance? Is there something, What do I need to learn? Is it worth taking five years to learn something I know nothing about, so that in 10 years I can be living my dream? Hell, [00:38:00] yes it is. Do it. Right. You do it, you invest. You're not gonna manifest five years of knowledge overnight because you got a vision board.
You're going to go be that person and that person took the time to invest, to learn whatever they needed to learn to be the person however long it took. But you start now wherever you are, cuz you're never gonna get there if you don't start.
Will: Well, Bob, I can't thank you enough for coming on the show and, and sharing of your expertise with us and our audience.
Uh, this has been, incredibly fascinating. Much more so than I thought. When you say you really are trying to make this stuff simple, boy, you couldn't have been more right? This is just about. Uh, like Nike said, right? Just do it. you're a great resource for those that are looking to do it.
So, once again, his website's meet bob doyle.com. would urge you to visit, that site, Take the quiz as soon as possible. Thanks again so much for
Bob: coming on the show. Thank you. Totally. My pleasure
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Brain rewirer, Trainer and Coach
Bob Doyle is best known as a featured expert in the film and book
“The Secret.” He now focuses his coaching and training on Neuro
Plasticity and your ability to rewire your brain so that you literally
become the person who creates the results you want in life without having to adopt any unusual belief system.
Bob Doyle is best known for his contribution to the film and book “The Secret”, as a law of attraction expert and coach.
He has been teaching these principles through programs, live events, podcasts, livestreams, coaching, writing, and even virtual reality, since 1998. He is driven by his passion for creative self-expression and his work is heavily focused on helping people decide who they want to be and how they want to express themselves.
Recently, Bob’s attention has shifted from the metaphysical aspects of the Law of Attraction or “reality creation” process, to a more grounded and biological look at what controls our experiences… our brain.
Bob believes that an understanding of how our brain is processing our experience of reality, empowers even Law of Attraction skeptics to see results with creating their lives by design instead of by default.
In addition to his work in personal transformation, Bob has also been a voiceover artist since 1985, and the host of The Bob Doyle Show, where Bob showcases his other outlets of creativity including music, computer animation, virtual reality, artificial intelligence, and more.