Could Your Angelic Name Be the Most Powerful Transformation Tool? | Unlocking Divine Purpose

Will & Karen: [00:00:00] Karen. Yes. Quick question. Okay. If someone walked up to you on the street.

And said, Hey, you are an archangel in a meat suit. What would you say? I don't know what I would say exactly. See, last time Dr. Alisha Das was on the show, she told us that most of us, not just you, Karen, have ancient arc, angelic roots, and now she is back. Hey, this time she's bringing the big wings with her.

We're talking about connecting to your angelic name, your cosmic purpose, and yes, how to tell if your gut feeling is. An actual guardian angel Whispering Secrets in your ear, or just last night's burrito. So your Halo's metaphysical family because this one might just activate your arc angelic ancestry and help you fly just a little bit higher. The skeptic me starts now.

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Will & Karen: Hey there. I'm Will. And I'm Karen. Welcome back to an exciting episode of the Skeptic Me. Today's returning guest is none other than author, spiritual, intuitive, transformational counselor, and straight up angel whisperer, Dr. Alisha Das with a doctorate in spiritual science and a groundbreaking book on the way with Hay [00:04:00] House. here to help us. Tap into our angelic origins, discover our divine name, and maybe even remember how to fly. Ooh, right. So welcome back to the show, Dr. Alisha Das. How are you doing today? Yay.

Dr. Das: I'm always happy when I get to be with you guys and play with you and tell inappropriate jokes and.

Will & Karen: Uh, that may or may not have happened before we start recording. I know what you're talking about and it may or may not have been me who was doing the inappropriate jokes just to put it out there, but, Doc, it's so nice to see you again. The last time we were here, we had such a wonderful conversation that we couldn't wait to have you back on.

So now this is probably the second of many, many that you're gonna be on the show 'cause you're one of our favorites.

So,

Dr. Das: No.

Will & Karen: well, last time that you were on the show, you dropped the bombshell about the fact that we

all had angelic roots. what has been the, feedback that you've gotten since you've been on the show about that statement by itself?

Dr. Das: Well. You know, it's not usually a [00:05:00] statement that I just, you know, like, hi paper or plastic, you are an angel. Um,

Will & Karen: It's not.

Dr. Das: not, not generally. Not generally. Um, so usually people have some sort of spiritual heritage. They have some sort of, they've done one of my classes, maybe read a blog, an article or something. So it's not a complete shocker, but, um, so usually it's a, I usually there's always a follow up question.

Well, does that mean me? Is usually the follow up question. Does that mean everybody? And so, you know, usually I say if you are asking the question, it probably does mean you, some of us have more of an angelic heritage than others. That doesn't mean they're necessarily higher. It means that's their. Culture, just like I'm half Indian, half English, you know?

Um, so I might be more, I might have, my skin might be more olive. That doesn't mean that I'm, uh, you know, it just means I'm different than somebody who's Scandinavian. So, so in [00:06:00] my experience, so the whole book, your angelic ancestry, so they did change the name from your arch angelic ancestry because nobody could say, you're a angelic go figure.

Will & Karen: Did you see me stumble

like

Dr. Das: I.

Will & Karen: or in the, that was a hard one.

Dr. Das: It's, I guess it's, it's, you know, not for me 'cause I've been saying it since I was tiny, but, but, so it's, it's now called your angelic ancestry. I guess people can say it, you know, discovering your arrc angelic name. So it really is, we were archangels before we were humans because archangels have souls.

They have free choice, also known as free will. Um, and so to throw a, an angel in human flesh where we have to decide what to do, choose the highest choices. Without that convenient archangel above us, disseminating the will of God would be too much. So my experience and my work with people for 35 years since I was a toddler, it [00:07:00] really has.

Born out that we were archangels because the ar angelic is so much more ancient than this latter day experiment of the human consciousness. So that we were archangels before we incarnated into the angelic to learn more about free choice, to learn more about co-creator and, and, uh, I could keep going, but do you have a follow up question and I can answer more specifically what you'd like to know?

Will & Karen: that is and weird and scary all at the same time, right? Scary. Why scary? It's not scary. Well, because we, hmm, how do I put this? Willingly gave up so much to be in this experience, this 3D experience. the, the question that comes, that begs to mind is, we out of our minds?

What that, why would we do something like this?

Dr. Das: I, I.

Will & Karen: so he can say. Now I was gonna say, you [00:08:00] could equate that to,

uh, why did you decide to be a mother? 'cause you give up

so

Dr. Das: That's fair. It's fair. You know, and yeah. I'm so with you, brother. Like, what the heck were we thinking? Here's what we were thinking. We're in the soul realm. It's all beautiful. It's all the, or we were in the angelic realm. We were in Ark Angel, we're in our pastel robes. We're like, we look at the human realm, we go, we could grow a lot faster there because it sucks in so many ways.

Right? It's a, it's fantastic in so many ways, but it's.

Will & Karen: Yeah.

Dr. Das: We were up in the soul realm, or we were in the angelic realm and we went, ah, that'll be easy,

Will & Karen: Hmm.

Dr. Das: right? And then we get here and we're like,

Will & Karen: What have we done?

Dr. Das: aging bodies. Man's in climate change. What the heck, right? And yet we grow so much faster here than other places.

Precisely because it's so challenging. [00:09:00] A lot of spiritual teachers say that souls line up to incarnate and specifically this planet is more challenging than other planets even. How do we know that? Well, you travel the realms. You, that's a whole other story. But, but you know, so we grow much faster here.

And a lot of, a lot of spiritual teachers say, souls line up to incarnate here precisely because they grow so much faster. And my cheeky comment, my cheeky retort to that is, yeah, and they line up to get off too.

Will & Karen: Yes. that? I'm thinking about rollercoasters, you know, and people line up to go on the scary rollercoaster 'cause there's the fun parts and then the not so fun parts. I. But it's, it's all about the ride. Yeah. But you know, that, uh, rollercoaster, those videos that you see people strapped in and all of a sudden they lose their minds and they pass out and they come back up and they pass out and they're coming. It's kind of like, it feels like what we're going through. Like, what the heck are we thinking? We're strapped in, we're going ah, and. Yeah, exactly. [00:10:00] So we just gotta strap ourselves in and hope for the

best. Yeah.

Dr. Das: Exactly.

Will & Karen: so here's a question I did not expect to ask,

Dr. Das: Okay.

Will & Karen: something that you

said just sparked that in my

head.

Dr. Das: Mm-hmm.

Will & Karen: Some people, that

Satan, for example, was an angel or an archangel that actually

fell.

Dr. Das: Mm-hmm.

Will & Karen: Some folks might liken the descent from the arch angelic experience or existence into the 3D as a a somewhat of a fall. What do you consider, like, what do you think about something like that where like, could Satan have fallen and fallen even more? Or how does, how do you put those things together?

Dr. Das: I love that question actually, and, and you know, ask me, I love edgy questions and you guys always ask them, which is so great. Um. So here's my experience. Satan is the human. This [00:11:00] also a meat sack, kind of not he, Satan is not physical, but in the human. Essence or ethereal consciousness, right? Satan is the earth bound form of Lucifer.

Lucifer was definitely an angel. Is still an angel, right? But morning, the morning star, the morning son, right? The first son of God. So Lucifer definitely fell and fell very far, right? Because at some point God went, you know, this whole human thing is good. It's, it's, it's expediting evolution more, it's a lot faster than an angel evolving to an archangel.

Right. So, and yet it's still going slowly and it's all about balance and law, right? So it's not so much about learning because if someone learns about love and they make that higher choice, if they still have the karma to be killed 422 more times, they're going to live and die. And live and die, but not necessarily learn more.

Just balance. So then the Christ Plan. Definitely, in [00:12:00] my opinion, absolutely not sequestered to one religion available to all who choose and de grace and love. But the Christ plan was incepted, right? And Lucifer said, nuh, I like my plan better. I like the law plan better, and rebelled against God and said, I want to enforce this plan and God allowing us, God, God, us, allowing us to have free will so that God and its infinite bravery.

See what happened. Oh, this will be good, right? Allow Lucifer to continue his plan on Earth through Satan, and allowed the Christ action to be continued through Christed beings, Jesus, Rumi, Buddha, Zora, et cetera, right? And so both plans concomitantly run on our planet and we get to choose which are we going?

Which foot are we going to have on which side? Or can we pick up that foot and go, oh my gosh, it's so many temptations and the momentum of this planet is downward, [00:13:00] but I'm going to choose up into grace.

Will & Karen: Okay.

Dr. Das: So do we, did we, are we here because we fell? I don't think so. I understand why people would think that some people are here because they fell.

Absolutely. Some people, you know, made a mis, you know, did, made, did some terrible, terrible thing and rut Ro woke up here. Right. But I don't think that most of us fell. Certainly we fall and we rise again and we make dumb choices and we fall and we get back up. Right. But I think most of us are here because we chose to know far more about co-creator and free will than we could have other places.

Will & Karen: So now I'm thinking about Satan. I, I, I was not intending it to go in this direction. Just, just one question. Okay. So you can, you mentioned how, um, I'm sorry, Lucifer wanted to go in a different direction. So why do you think we. [00:14:00] I mean, unless the direction was really horrible. But it sounds like the way you explained it, it sounds like it was just different.

So why do you think we have equated all of evil and pain and ugliness and torture and all of that stuff with, with Lucifer and Satan?

Dr. Das: Ooh. Such good questions, y'all. So I'm gonna ask somebody who knows a heck of a lot more than me, I'm gonna let. Archangel Michael, answer this.

So what I'm hearing is,

before I share that, it's often said that Archangel Michael, Michael by Rudolph Steiner, by many, uh, Edgar Casey, uh, many luminaries, Archangel Michael, is a, is a huge purveyor of the Christ and one with the Christ. Okay. What I hear from Michael is, and by the way, there are spiritual teachers who also say that Michael Incarnated was the first archangel to incarnate on the human plane as [00:15:00] Adam

Will & Karen: No kidding. Wow.

Dr. Das: Right, right. Now do obviously the whole creation myth is very anthropomorphized. Do I think it happened exactly like, no. I think a lot of it was symbolic, but that's what, that's who started it. So what I hear an answer to your question is Lucifer is equated with so much evil because, first of all, to go against the will of God when you know better.

Is considered evil. Another definition of evil is unnecessary experience. It's not your karma. You know, I, I am, yeah, I murder you, but it's not your karma to have been murdered. That's going outside of God. And that's evil. Evil is not. It's that going outside of God's will. Nothing can be outside of God. And so lucifer's considered evil because there is a certain.

A large aspect of Lucifer that is evil. By that definition, nothing is outside of God. God is learning through [00:16:00] lucifer's shenanigans, if you will, just as God is learning through Christ and learning through, through, you know, Martin Luther King, et cetera, right? Longer learning through Lucifer takes a lot more time.

So when we knowingly go against the will of God. That is evil and brings us into, now we're not, one soul will be lost. So rather than going, you know, not let, our progression is straight up, but it's kind of like this, right? And we go up. So you do that and you're going up, up, up. And then you go, eh, I know better than God.

Oops. You fall. Right. Especially if you know what God's will here on this level. Us poor Claudes, we don't always know God's will. Right. So we don't fall nearly as far as Lucifer who knew what God's will was

and went against it.

So tried to be as God,

Will & Karen: Hmm.

Dr. Das: tried to replace God, [00:17:00] really, and, and so that really is reprehensible and ultimately it is not because ultimately God is the incept of all things, including Lucifer.

And Lucifer's plan is not so awful, not so fun either. It's checks and balances and, and biblically it's to the last farthing. Um, his actual plan is not so evil. The execution of it

against God's will and the original reason for it, I know better than God is evil. And so when we choose that and we all have, I know I should do this and I do this right.

We get the consequence of that, which is, might be outward, but the biggest consequence is inward.

Will & Karen: Mm-hmm.

Dr. Das: That doesn't feel good.

Will & Karen: Right. So, which begs to really revisit the term evil. it, it, it really encompasses so much more than, you know, when you think evil, you think [00:18:00] right? Evil, but evil in the way that you're explaining it, is much more than just like something really bad that you did, but rather something that goes against the will of. God, I guess is what you're saying,

Dr. Das: Yeah. Okay.

Will & Karen: or, or, or, or know or feeling that you know better than God. So I guess around

surround that the society, humanity, pegged anything that was bad with the word evil, when in essence it may not, may or may not have truly deserved that term. Mm-hmm. I, am I understanding that

correctly?

Dr. Das: Well, yeah, because ultimately there is no duality. There is, but that's a big, that's, that's a, that's a mastery level lesson, lesson. To be completely, you know, in the Buddhism they say the root of all suffering is attachment,

Will & Karen: Right? Mm-hmm.

Yes.

Dr. Das: good and bad duality. So yes. Uh, is there evil? Of course. Ultimately, is there evil?

No, because ultimately we don't exist in these separate bodies. But is [00:19:00] there, is the, does there evil playing out on the Yes, there is

Will & Karen: So evil actions or evil entities?

Dr. Das: both.

Will & Karen: Oh, good god. No evil actions only.

Dr. Das: Sorry, my dear.

Will & Karen: Ah,

Dr. Das: Yeah, there are, there are evil entities, but do we need to fear them? Do you know, have you ever had the experience will of really getting into a state of forgiveness when someone did something against you and you knew you had to give up that against this, that resentment, and you got into a state of forgiveness and you saw that, yeah, they said the mean thing, but it's because they were hurting.

Not because they were actually evil, it's because they were, you know, hurt people, hurt people. And when you get to that, you have compassion and then it frees up all the judgment inside of you. And then, you know, it said if you knew the secret fears of your worst enemy, you would never hate them, but love them.

[00:20:00] So it's like that with Lucifer.

Now my espousing like, go hang out. No, no.

But ultimately is anything outside of God? Absolutely not.

Will & Karen: Right.

Dr. Das: And, and Lucifer feeds on our fear, so we wanna do our best to not go into fear.

Will & Karen: Right. So love your enemy as you love yourself.

Dr. Das: Yeah. Best, as best you can.

Will & Karen: Yeah. Alright, well then another departure

from any of the questions I thought, but you, you said something earlier that, uh, sparked. Yeah. Another question you mentioned that we were all just hanging out in the, uh, ethereal realm with our robes on. And yet biblically the Bible describes angels very differently as, big wings and robes and sitting at the right hand of God. Does that mean we had a lot of eyes everywhere and were shaped like stars? Or like is it we looking at it from the wrong [00:21:00] perspective?

Dr. Das: I I think we look at it from the perspective we have, and there's no wrong perspective. I can tell you my experience, if that's what you're asking.

Will & Karen: We'd love to hear that. Yeah.

Dr. Das: So, yes. In the, in the Bible, Ezekiel describes the cherub as many eyed and many wheeled, not exactly a sexy version of angels, right? Not that, certainly not the fat babies flying around that we're used to.

So my experience of angels is that they are formless because angels are not 3D, they do not have these, as you call them, meat sacks, right? They're, they're essence, they're ethereal. They're formless. So when I tune into Angels, I, I might see a flip of a jewel toned robe. I might see a sword, but I know it's symbolic if I do, because they're.

Creation. Their level is so different from ours. So it's both. And often they will come to us in a way they, that we can receive them. So often they'll come to us looking like a beautiful human because that, so we're [00:22:00] not afraid of them in the Bible. Do you know what the most common thing an angel says is in the Bible?

Will & Karen: Bless you.

Dr. Das: It's yes, but I mean that's very common. But the most common thing is not bless you. Do you know what it is that they say First? Fear not.

Will & Karen: Fear not. Oh, that's true.

Dr. Das: Mm-hmm Because they are so awesome and they are, they really, if you really perceive an angel, they very much challenge our sense of separate existence, our sense of self. They're incredibly well. They bring the divine right before us, which is shocking to our ego, can be shocking to our ego. So it's both end.

Do I occasionally see a more anthrop? Occasionally I'll see an angel that, you know, looks like a beautiful human and, and I don't think much about it. 'cause most of the time it's just a knowing, you know, they're just essence. [00:23:00] So I really say to people, angels probably don't look anything like what we depict them in art, but so what if that is comforting to you and that's how they wanna appear to you.

Will & Karen: Yeah. Yeah. I love it. So when you.

feel them, when you feel that presence, what does that feel like?

Dr. Das: Well, I just wanna qualify my answer, Karen, with, with that's, this is my experience, but however you experience them is equally valid. So I experienced them as a knowing, like I experience love, like I know I love my kids. Okay. I experienced them as

a ization of God of the divine. It'd be like if a feather flitted through here straight from heaven, and we were all stunned into profound and sacred silence.[00:24:00]

That's how I experience them as. As right here.

But they, they take us out of time and space

into a, into a more divine state.

Will & Karen: mm love that. so as you know, lived with an angel for 17 years

now.

Dr. Das: Mm-hmm.

Will & Karen: And when her angelic persona comes out, it's very different.

It's very different. Um, it's, uh, persona owns the room, right. It, it, it definitely, it absolutely just takes over the room. And it's almost like you've, like a feeling of I'm not worthy.

Right.

Is.

Dr. Das: You, you feel you're not worthy.

Will & Karen: Correct? Yes. I, I feel I'm not worthy when

I'm

Dr. Das: Mm-hmm.

Will & Karen: presence of the angelic persona that comes out. that the right feeling

to have or should we, because like you mentioned, we all have arc angelic roots. Should we [00:25:00] then not fall to our knees and beg for forgiveness when, whenever this persona comes out?

Not that I do that. I'm just saying you've never done that. Otherwise I'd fake it all the time.

Dr. Das: Karen's like tell him he should fall to his knees and beg for forgiveness.

Um, I do think it's an appropriate response, and I have one cautionary tale with my answer. I think it's, it's, again, it's a both and it is a very appropriate experience or, or response, and if you didn't have that within you, you couldn't see it. If you didn't have the equivalent right within you will, you could not see Karen.

Now, Karen is not even hiding the fact that she's got an angelic origin, right? She's not. She's not. She's, yeah, she's not even,

Will & Karen: pretending. Oh, I'm not me. Oh. But yeah.

Dr. Das: yeah,

but none of us, none of us are buying it.

Will & Karen: Right, exactly.

Dr. Das: So some are some people more angelic than others, of course. Just as my [00:26:00] analogy of like, I, I'm kind of have olive skin, you know, so, so, but does that mean it's any different than somebody who doesn't?

Absolutely not. You know, so Karen's heritage in my, I hope you don't mind me saying this on air. Karen's heritage, she spent a lot of time in the angelic and she's wet behind the ears. So I'm sure that people's response to you, if they have eyes to see is like, ooh. There's something special and magical and different.

I don't know why, but I really like you. Like I'm guessing Will is nodding his head. Like that's a lot of times people's response, right?

Will & Karen: I can't nod enough for, you know. Yeah.

Dr. Das: Yeah. Yeah. Now does that mean Will is any less special? Absolutely not. It means Will has a different heritage. So I look at You Will, and you're someone who is a bit more balanced than you've spent some lifetimes on The Human and the Angelic and the David, which is the Nature Kingdom, other planets, whereas.

Karen and I are more like, we just kind of hung out in the angelic and then, you know, decided to come to this crazy place. So, but I [00:27:00] do see, you know, but again, I would say you wouldn't be here if you hadn't evolved to an archangel, at least to some, for some of your lifetimes. You might've spent more as an arc.

David, that's the nature kingdom. Also not physical.

Will & Karen: I, I think she's calling me an animal, so, so it's almost like a, you know, you do 23 and me or ancestry.com, whatever. I might be one. Right 1e-05%, Archangel and the rest is just regular old human right.

Dr. Das: You're more than 0.1. You have, you have a lot of that too. Or you wouldn't be with Karen and you wouldn't resonate with her and you wouldn't, you would have a different response than fall to my knees. You would, might have a response of, as we're talking about fear or, or even an aversion, because when you have a bright light, we, we tend to see our shadow.

And relief to that, right? So if you didn't have a lot [00:28:00] of archangel in you, and it's funny 'cause as I'm saying this, like I can see it coming more forward. It's just that it's like Karen left the angelic, you know, a few years ago and you know, you moved out about 20 years ago. Like if you were looking at it this lifetime.

Will & Karen: Got it. So I'm More road worn than Karen, basically. More street smart. All right. Well, cool. Now also, last time you were here, we talked about Karen's angelic name.

Dr. Das: Mm-hmm.

Will & Karen: Do you remember what that was?

Dr. Das: Don't say it though. Just think it, don't say it.

Will & Karen: in your book, which is actually people can pre-order now, I know it's been delayed until February, I

believe.

Dr. Das: Mar March 3rd, 2026 Because of the fires.

Will & Karen: Okay. So you can, uh, pre-order it

now

Dr. Das: Yes.

Will & Karen: in anticipation because the book, you show people how to

discover their own arc, angelic

name.

Dr. Das: Yes.

Will & Karen: Can you give us a, a sneak peek into how that might happen?

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Dr. Das: Yeah, so I, you know, when I, when I, I was originally gonna write like an angelic compendium and Hay house is like, that's, you know, that's a lot in one book, but we think that the sexiest part of the book is the angelic name. Everybody wants to know their angelic name, their arc angelic name.

Will & Karen: And please tell me my name's not Bob.

Dr. Das: Probably not,

Will & Karen: Good, good,

good.

Dr. Das: not Bob.

No.

Um, and no, they're, they're pretty, they're much more highfalutin than [00:31:00] that. And,

Will & Karen: Robert.

Oh

Dr. Das: uh, uh, a little more highfalutin than that. And, um, and so what I did is I, I recorded, I, I used to give people there, I not give, but I would guide them through a whole meditation in my classes to. Get their name and then I would take 'em into a separate room and refine it.

'cause you never wanna tell anybody your ar angelic name. Angels have one name. So we have lots of names because we embody many times. You know, we're Ming Chu, then we're Bob, you know, then we're, et cetera. Angels. Angels are the opposite. Most ways that angels evolve are opposite to humans, by the way. So angels have one name, one body, many lifetimes.

That one name is incredibly important and sacred, and you don't wanna tell it to somebody because it could give them power over you. So then what I did is I recorded the meditation and I sent it out to tons of people and I said, can you get your name from this? [00:32:00] And many people wrote back, email back and said, oh, yes, I did.

You know, or maybe even I got more than one name and then I kept refining, said, you know, so I asked for feedback on the meditation, you know, and I kept refining it, refining it, refining it until people, uh, people reliably got their name from that meditation. So, so it's in the book, the whole how to is in the book?

I do. It's like the, I think it's the sixth chapter because there's a whole lot of foundation. So you remember your name accurately? And then you can go and listen to the meditation. There's a lot of QR codes in the book to go listen to the meditation, receive your name, and then learn. Well, now that I've received it, what can I do with it?

Will & Karen: I'm so curious. don't suppose you have an advanced copy. You could give friends and family or something, right? Just, yeah, I mean not, I mean, if you, you know, if you can, it's not

No,

Dr. Das: Absolutely not a, not a [00:33:00] physical copy yet, but

Will & Karen: Sure, sure, sure. So how do Angels originally get their name?

Dr. Das: I, my experience is they, so when they're an angel, so they incarnate, they're, they're sparked from God, you know, and, and they get their name then, but they don't necessarily know it until they're an archangel because again, angels are in a collective. So in my book I talk about only work with the highest, highest, highest, highest great archangels, which are way off the screen right.

Um, and 'cause working with angels, you may or may not be working with a being higher than you. So certainly your guardian angel's different and a lot of people's, depending on whom they are, a guardian angel might be a, a lesser archangel, you know, or it might be your own, it might be an angel. Um, but. My experience is God, goddess, spirit, the universe, whatever you want to call it, like breathes out, uh, [00:34:00] exhales them into existence and a name comes tumbling out with them.

And that name speaks of their higher purpose of what God is intending to learn through them. So that's why the book, it's Discover Your Arrc, angelic Name, heritage, and Higher Purpose, because your name is a big clue to your purpose, not just for this lifetime, but for all of them.

Will & Karen: So you mentioned that. The book also helps you to understand how to use your angelic name. It does everyone. Is it the same for everyone or does everyone have a very specific thing that they can do with their, with that name? What, what do you, what do you use your name for once you rec, once you discover it?

Dr. Das: Yeah, it's a great question. I'm very, you know, I have a rare disease in my family. I don't know if I told you this.

Will & Karen: I'm not sure that you

did.

Dr. Das: Everybody is an md. Everybody like. Everybody. Everybody. And I was pre-med, right? And until I made a U-turn. Um, [00:35:00] so I am very pragmatic. I even have a very, I have a scientific mind. I want tangible, measurable results, right?

So, uh, in fact, that's why my doctorate is in spiritual science, not in philosophy. Show, show me the, the metrics. So, so they can use their name many ways, of course, the way that speaks to them. But some of the ways to use it are as mentioned to find their more about their purpose, their overarching purpose.

They can use it to connect so expediently to the angelic and see it's not about going back. There to your ar angelic form. It's about bringing that form here so that you can manifest more, you can be more Karen like. You know, you can have that grace and that magic and that specialness, that divine remembrance.

'cause angels never forget their one with spirit, right? And then you take, and you couple that with your human co-creator and your [00:36:00] human sovereign qualities, right? Free choice. And, and what you have then is a, God realized being freely choosing into God's will.

Will & Karen: Huh? I need to know my name because you just said something that really resonates with me. The, the, my one goal over the past, I don't know how many months has been I. I need to be closer to spirit. I need to get myself there. I'm very much stuck in the 3D and my humanness, and little by little I'm trying to shed the ego and I'm trying to become closer to spirit. if you think my name, you're saying my name will get me there. I need that right now.

Dr. Das: Your name will help you. You know, it's a process, right? So your name will absolutely help you. Let's see, what's an analogy? I mean, this is a silly analogy, but it's like eating french fries. You wanna add salt, right? Do you [00:37:00] need the salt for the french fries? No. You can eat the french fries. Exactly.

I'm with, I'm with you brother.

I like the little french fries with my salt,

Will & Karen: Right, Right,

Dr. Das: so, you know, but the, the, the salt, you don't need the salt. But it, it makes the whole experience completely different.

Will & Karen: Mm-hmm.

Dr. Das: So you don't need your angelic name to remember spirit, but having your angelic name is a big shortcut.

Will & Karen: I could see how that would be the case. Mm-hmm. I could see how that could be the case. Okay. Alright. So, uh, I'm gonna look for that book in the mail soon anyway.

Dr. Das: Well, it's not gonna be in your email.

Because we don't, I don't have the physical copy yet.

Will & Karen: right. The, big overarching question, you know so much about archangels and angels and our ancestry and the way things are, and you communicate with you, you are the angel whisperer, right? You talk to [00:38:00] Archangel Michael, and, uh, how did all of this come about? How did you manage to come? To your knowledge and the connection that you have that most of us don't.

Dr. Das: I think all of us do. We just are not fully cognizant of it yet. Okay. So I think that I'm one of those weird people who I. Was born to do this and it started my, my first, or my earliest, remember memory of Angels is when I was between three to four years old. And I had a very traumatic experience occur, the kind that could really send someone to drugs, et cetera.

And I communed with the archangels so that what they did is they took me into them while this was occurring and I started speaking to them in their own language.

Will & Karen: Ah.

Dr. Das: And what [00:39:00] that did is it, it.

Help me move out of duality,

Will & Karen: Mm-hmm.

Dr. Das: right? To not go this level is frightening because I just went through a very frightening experience, and yet I was taken into the body of archangels, the ethereal body, right?

So then fast forward, then I started telling people things that I couldn't know as a child, and I freaked out people in rural Indiana. And so I learned to stop. I learned to stop sharing these things and, um, but I eventually, I, and then I had a lot of experiences that would open me up and I would just keep it close to the breast until I left home, and then I could share about it more freely.

And then once I, and there we go again. Once I, I did a, an angelic workshop and I heard all three, so you have actually have three angelic names, but start with one.

Will & Karen: Mm-hmm.

Dr. Das: Um, and once I, I [00:40:00] heard my three names all at once, which is unusual and, um, that really opened me up. I started hearing the angelic language and then it became apparent that this was what I was, this is why I incarnated to help bridge the angelic and the human.

Will & Karen: Oh, did you know it was real?

Dr. Das: Yeah, the, at four or at, as a young adult later, I didn't, I didn't love, I, I didn't, I had a lot of questions, you know, and, and yet do you know, it comes a point where you just go either, I'm completely insane and I wasn't. I was very functional. Or this is real. And you know what really sealed the deal? So first of all, my spiritual teacher validated it.

So that was hugely helpful. 'cause I had a mass, I had massive respect for him that that helped. But what really helped was when I started working with people and I would put out these crazy ideas, right? Like there's an angelic [00:41:00] language and I hear it, and you have an angelic heritage and you have an, and you know, expecting them to like, you know, the proverbial like hook, expecting like.

Will & Karen: Yeah.

Dr. Das: And, and yet I saw this sea of nodding heads and the more I shared what was true for me, the more I received that validation. This is working for me. Yeah, it's weird 'cause I can go to toe, toe to toe with anybody on weird, right. Um, but, but it was working for people. They were remembering God. They were getting along with their spouse better.

They were more patient. They were suddenly, you know, sitting down to meditate because they understood that Raphael, as the angel you call upon, if you don't feel like doing your spiritual practice. You know, they were getting, again, I'm the, I'm the spiritual scientist. They were getting results and that actually validated things for me.

I went, okay, I'm, I'm not, we can't entirely rule out being me, me being [00:42:00] crazy, but that means everybody is. So, if everybody is, then none of us are.

Will & Karen: right. Yeah. just to point out something, you said, having someone that really knows validating is a big first step, right, Karen? So I'm just, I'm just wondering, you know, make sure I understood right. Someone who understands Angels validating might have the first step. actually saying, Hmm, maybe not crazy. just putting it out there.

Possibly.

Dr. Das: That was.

Will & Karen: Yeah. The the funny thing is it is not just you, is it repeatedly, people have repeatedly seen what you see and she's still, I don't know, maybe you'll see, but, but.

Dr. Das: Karen, my dear, my dear, I'm, I'm, I don't shoot the messenger, but you're just, you're hugely angelic, [00:43:00] hugely, and it's a beautiful thing. I know we wanna go, oh shucks. Not me, but it's, it's sweetie, you remember people to the divine. It's like a, like I said, it's like a feather floating through the air. So embrace it.

It's not one of my favorite things that my spiritual teacher said was Ordinariness is a prior condition to God, so we're all special, which also means none of us are special. Both true, but you have a magical quality about you, and the more you embrace that and step into that, the more of service you'll be

Will & Karen: Well, I do wanna be more of service, so

Dr. Das: And that's the whole quality of the angelic kingdom. By the way, service humans is free choice. There were iterations before the angelic, right? The whole re re. The whole reason for being of the angelic is for God. God is to learn about service. Ours is for God to learn about free choice, free will.

Will & Karen: Oh, if this mic wasn't on an arm, I would drop it. [00:44:00] Alright. Uh, well the show is called a Skeptic Reposition. So there are people right now who are listening, who are going, oh, come on, angels for real, seriously,

Dr. Das: Yeah.

Will & Karen: is skeptical, but would like to try to step forward in an.

Effort to better understand how they're connected to the angelic realm.

What

Dr. Das: Mm-hmm.

Will & Karen: tips would you recommend that they, the first steps they would should take to start down

that path?

Dr. Das: Again, gonna let someone who knows a heck of a lot more than me answer. This is a rare great archangel. So there's gazillions Google, Plex, angels, a couple million. To about 10 million archangels. There's about 150 great archangels. So these are high, high, high, high, high, high beads. Uh, some of them we know Mikael, Gabriel Raphael, but they're probably a lot higher than we know.

Right. And we can know them. It's like, you know how you guys know each other very [00:45:00] beautifully, intimately, obviously. Right. You're, you're beautiful partners. And, and by the way, I just love hanging out with you 'cause I love watching your banter. It's.

Will & Karen: Well, thank

you.

Dr. Das: Yeah, of course. But so we know people in, in different, um, iterations, different, not iterations, but we know them to different degrees. So we might know Meek Gael at this level starting out, and then we might eventually get to know his more pristine form. Okay, so there's, this is an archangel that I, I've never said, I've only said the name once out loud.

And that was to my spiritual teacher when I'm like, I'm hearing this weird language, you know, am I nuts? And, um, and, uh, I said this name, and that's when he said, that's gloss. That's speaking in tongues. That's the angelic language. Be very discerning when you share that out loud with people because it completely takes them, transports them into another realm.

Will & Karen: Ooh,

Dr. Das: And so what I'm hearing from this being is [00:46:00] if you have a question of if angels are real, you might want to upgrade that question to, are you real? And how do you know you're real? And you might want to question that because you know there's something more real than this three dimensional. Reality, which is the knowing of love itself.

So if you wish to know God's love in manifestation, you may want to open yourself up to the experience of an angel, because that's what angels are. They are God's love in manifestation. They are God's first creation before humans. So you might want to start with your guardian angel because they are your ethereal best friend.

So if you've ever had a near miss from an accident or say, oh my God, [00:47:00] I, that bus could have hit me, et cetera, and you think Maybe that was my guardian angel, it probably was. What else would explain that? The universe is not random. So perhaps in the silence of the night. Suspend your disbelief just as you do in the movies or tv.

Suspend your disbelief and open to feel that comforting presence. For surely you will. If you set aside the ego that says, I'm separate from God. That's the greatest delusion, and that's the reality. I suggest you question the most.

Will & Karen: You said that so much better than I possibly could have thought of, because that's exactly how I experienced it, is by allowing myself to just feel and question and that opened me up to something like this. So that's [00:48:00] a beautiful answer to that question.

Thank you for that.

Dr. Das: Of course.

Will & Karen: So as if we didn't throw you enough

curve ball questions before, we typically have some curve ball questions that we ask some of our guests that come on if they're open to answering them.

We can always edit these out if you can't answer. So just if you're open to 'em, I'm happy to throw 'em your way if

you're cool

Dr. Das: Absolutely.

Will & Karen: Okay. Well these are kind of kooky questions and stuff, so

Dr. Das: That's shocking coming from you.

Will & Karen: I know, I know. Anyway, here's the curve ball questions. Let's say Hollywood calls. You're asked to be the Angel consultant on a new metaphysical action series. What is one angelic truth you'd insist that they get right on screen? I.

Dr. Das: Angels are not outside of you. They are within you speaking from within you directing you. To the truth that you are one with God, one with love, [00:49:00] one with that highest direction that scares you, and you are here to manifest the will of God.

Will & Karen: Okay. That was not the answer I was expecting, but that was better than I think I could have possibly hoped for. Uh, okay. Second question. If Karen really is an archangel and honestly we all know, I know that she is, celestial job title do you think I'd have in the angelic realm? And be honest, 'cause I can take it.

Dr. Das: Okay. Celestial job title.

Will & Karen: Yeah.

Dr. Das: Ooh, this is a long title. This is more of a job description. Can I do a job description instead?

Will & Karen: Yep.

Dr. Das: Purveyor or bringer of the feeling you get when you look at the tallest mountains and you feel the breeze upon your cheek and you know that God is real.

Will & Karen: Ooh, I don't know if I deserve that title, but, alright.

Dr. Das: You. So can I explain that a little?

Will & Karen: [00:50:00] Yes, please,

Dr. Das: So when I look at you, so yeah, I do angels, but I also do talk to connect with spirits of nature, which to me is another heritage. We have very related to the angelic. So there are Davids or Spirits of mountains. And when I look at your consciousness, I see that you are a part of, you, has a connection to the spirit of a mountain.

And so what does that mean? It means that you have this particular power with you that is not intimidating to people, but rather inspiring. So they tend to go with your crazy ideas.

Will & Karen: and they are crazy.

Yes.

Dr. Das: Yeah. Yeah. They go with your crazy ideas because you inspire confidence in people, right? Because you have this rock solid, and I mean this in a very positive way, rock solid quality about you.

That is not shakeable, [00:51:00] and that makes people feel relaxed and secure. I.

Will & Karen: I.

love that. Thank you. Alright, last

question.

Dr. Das: Mm-hmm.

Will & Karen: you are granted one. I. Angelic superpower to give

every listener right now. Which do you choose and why?

Dr. Das: You are a messenger of God. So angel means messenger. So if I could grant every, well, it wouldn't be me granting it 'cause to me they already have it. But I would grant them the trust in their attunement, and I would say. Take that divine pause before you run willy nilly into your day or into that next action, and tune in and speak out loud the messages that you hear to guide you in your day.

So to know that they are all messengers of God.

Will & Karen: Okay. Thank you for playing along those. [00:52:00] Those are

fun for

Dr. Das: Those are fun.

Than like what Satan Ander.

Will & Karen: Why are they though? You

seem to

Dr. Das: Yes.

Will & Karen: the, you answered those perfectly. Absolutely. So I, I didn't see any, any challenges there.

Dr. Das: Thank you.

Will & Karen: someone obviously wanted to, pre-order your book or

get in touch with you to work with you in some way, what's the best way for someone to reach out?

Dr. Das: Mm. Thank you for asking. So my book is, is just a few days ago, went on pre-sale. It is the, it, the physical copy won't come for about six months, but um, if they go, if they order the book, I. Um, on, they can go to Amazon, Barnes and Noble Books a million wherever and order the book. Then I'm gonna be starting a launch club, so they'll get a course, I'll start sending excerpts from the book.

So basically I'll send them the entire book by the time the book comes out, but it'll be in bite-sized pieces. So if they go to my website, alishadas.com/book. So, um, my [00:53:00] name, Alisha Das.com/book and order the book. From there, then I'll start sending bonuses, excerpts, you know, whole chapters. Oh, the outtakes.

Those are, those are, those are fun.

Will & Karen: There are angelic outtakes.

Ooh,

Dr. Das: Angelic outtakes. Yes.

Will & Karen: must see those. Yes, I'm gonna buy the book. Awesome. Well,

doc Alicia. Dr. Doss, thank you so much for coming on the show. It's always so much fun to spend time with you. And as always, we were left with so many other questions, but, we can look forward to having you on maybe when, when the book comes out.

Mm-hmm.

We'll have

Dr. Das: Yeah, I would love that. I would love that. You, you guys are so much fun and, and you ask really, you know, you ask questions that most people don't have the courage to ask, and I so appreciate that.

Will & Karen: I hope that it doesn't mean that we are offending you

because

Dr. Das: Not at all. Not remotely.

Will & Karen: a that's a very brave question. There will.

Dr. Das: Not remotely.

I love it.

Will & Karen: Oh, good. Alright, well good. I'm, [00:54:00]

we never want to piss anybody

off, so,

Dr. Das: No, definitely not.

Will & Karen: alright, well it's been a real pleasure. Thank you so much for coming on the show again and we, we look forward to seeing you again

soon.

Dr. Das: Absolutely. Thank you so much.

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