The “Spinal Cord of God”: How Consciousness Records Your Choices, Patterns & Potential

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So Karen, I have a confession.

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Oh boy.

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It's a doozy.

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Not boat well.

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It does not.

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Because I may have committed us to a conversation that could either blow our minds or make us

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rethink every bad haircut, every ex-boyfriend or girlfriend and questionable life choices we've

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ever made.

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That's a lot of thinking.

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It is for you.

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Me, you know.

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Yeah.

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You know.

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See, it disinvolves something called the spinal cord of God.

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And no, I didn't pull that from a sci-fi novel.

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Apparently, it's this living energy field that tracks everything about you.

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Oh, wow.

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Your relationships, your money patterns, even while you keep dating that same lesson in

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human form over and over again.

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Well, I quit dating him last week.

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Last week.

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Okay, the best part is our guest says you can actually read it, kind of like the cosmic

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Google doc for your soul.

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And by the time this episode is over, you, dear listener or watcher, might just be tempted

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to check your own energetic browser history.

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So yeah, get ready.

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Because today's conversation is going to be part cosmic therapy, part spiritual tech support

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and 100% going to mess in the best possible way with how you see yourself.

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Yep, all in the interest of fighting something that will prove that there's something beyond

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Hey there, I am Will.

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And I'm Karen.

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And welcome to an episode of the skeptic metaphysicians that finally answers the question of whether

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the universe really is watching and can we at least get a copy of the footage?

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No thank you.

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That's it, his guess is someone who might just make you rethink everything that you thought

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you knew about your soul story.

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She's an internationally recognized teacher and guide in the Akashic records.

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Basically, she helps people access the energetic database of everything their souls ever experienced.

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You know that only leads to trouble.

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She's the founder of the School of Akashic Records, leads retreats around the world and

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spent over 20 years helping spiritual seekers and conscious leaders turn big mystical concepts

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into practical tools for everyday clarity and purpose.

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And yep, she is the first person who's ever made me wonder if the universe is tracking

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me better than my iPhone.

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Welcome to the show, Heather Ivany.

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How are you doing today?

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I'm doing very well.

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Thanks for having me, lovely to be in your company.

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Likewise.

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She says that now.

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Heather, it's a pleasure to have you on the show.

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I got to ask right off the bat, when someone says the Akashic records are re-talking cosmic

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libraries, spiritual mainframe, universe is never in the group chat, what exactly are we

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talking about here?

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Yeah, so sort of the stereotype, language that's used is describing the Akashic records as

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an aesthetic library.

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It's a great way to picture because we learn a lot through visuals.

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So it gives us a great way to sort of picture what it could be.

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The reason why I like to bring in other ways to describe it is because a lot of people

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then start to associate with, if you can't see a library when you're opening up the records,

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or if you don't view it from the point of view of feeling like you're almost reading someone's

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book of their life, then a lot of people feel like they're not in connection with it or accessing

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it.

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And if you want to stretch it even a little bit further, a lot of people access the Akashic

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records without any visuals at all, they use other forms of intuitive hits like Claire Sentient,

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which is the way that we feel.

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Claire Audio is how we hear without actual sounds being around us and also Claire Cognizance,

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which is the knowing without being taught.

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So yes, that's one great way to talk about it is a cosmic library, but what I love to do

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is really bring it down into like practical sort of daily ways that we can work with it,

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is I really feel heartily that there needs to be more bridges between the cosmic realm and

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the physical realm because there's so you're either in this group or that group or this

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camp and the more that we can bridge between the two, it just invites more people in and

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more depth and understanding with what we're playing with.

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So if there's so kind of getting back to what it is, if there's so many different ways

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to experience the Akashic records, how do you know that that's really where you are?

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Right, so I'll back up even a little bit further if you're open to it and so the Akasha is a

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little bit different than the Akashic records.

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So Akasha is kind of like the umbrella that arches through everything.

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So it's like the myofasha of the universe, people call it consciousness, if they're more

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spiritually connected, you'll call it quantum field if you're more scientifically inclined.

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So it directly, it's a Sanskrit word Akasha and it directly translates to the word space

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which we connect to quantum because space is the study of every or quantum physics is

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the study of everything and space is in everything or spirit which is consciousness.

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So that's the Akasha, that's sort of the life force energy that's in and amongst everything.

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And Akashic record is the specific divine blueprint of your particular makeup.

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So people have Akashic records and then animals have Akashic records, plants have Akashic records.

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So anything that is a conscious breathing organism will have an Akashic record even what

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we assume is like inanimate such as like rocks and minerals and elements even would

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have an Akashic record.

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Good.

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Yeah, it's very vast but did I answer your question there like a little bit?

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A little bit but now I have another question and I just forgot my other question.

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Oh my gosh, I started laughing and it's you see the lesson of the story?

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I have to be serious.

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Don't laugh.

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Don't laugh.

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This is a very serious topic.

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I remember now.

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So is it a record of a record I guess in quotes of your experiences, lifetimes, and whatever

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on earth or every galaxy dimension?

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Yeah, so it's an energetic imprint.

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So wherever there is place to imprint it can be there.

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So if you're open to past lives and yes, it would contain all the information of your past

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lives.

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If you're open to experiencing a lifetime outside of the earthly realm then yes it would

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include that as well.

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So it's every sort of thought, action, behavior has a vibrational frequency to it and it gets

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imprinted into what we call the Akashic field, the quantum field and then your specific

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Akashic records.

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If you think about that, that's a vast amount of information from even like say a year

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in your life, let alone a lifetime or multiple lifetimes.

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So when you open up ones Akashic records, there's almost like I picture it as like every

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one has their own GPS location that the universe locates you from and then from that when you

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open up someone's records, it's not like you have access to all the things all at once

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because it would almost just be like the library shelf collapsing on you in a sense.

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So there's almost like I think of it, almost like energetic fields or keepers that will

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help to distill the information as it's coming down so that it comes down in a way that

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makes sense in a way that offers support and guidance and then just because we're inquiring

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doesn't mean we necessarily have access to that information because we're not, you know,

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we're not commanding consciousness to meet our egoic needs.

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We're simply seeing if there's information in the field that we can have access to.

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So we've covered the Akashic records in different other shows before and it's been painfully

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obvious that my library card is no longer in existence because I can't ever even imagine

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what this thing could be, but there's still use in the doodessimal system.

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A little little drawer.

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So I think most of the people that are listening are comfortable with the Akashic record, they

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are how they work, even if they can't access it.

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The biggest question mark here is what I tease at the beginning of the show, which was using

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them to help us to guide, just mention GPS, like so how can someone access this strange,

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mythical, mystical thing that I can't wrap my head around to help them to make sense of

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where they've been and where they need to go from there?

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Because we are a society that relies so heavily on what the mind understands and we use that

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as sort of the bar as to where we can access information from.

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So if you're going to be accessing information from a space beyond the mind and what it stores

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is memory and data, then you're going into the intuitive field.

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So if you're, you know, if the intuitive field, the broad word and languaging for the smaller

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distilled ways that we communicate, which I shared earlier with the Clare Audio, Clare

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Cognis and Clare Voice and Clare Sentient, those are the four main clairs that I work with.

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So it's not so much can you access it or not, because you can't ever not be in it.

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It is everywhere.

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So when we're playing with like, I can't get in and I can't get information from that,

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it's not that you're being denied.

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And a lot of this like when I work with people on how to, you know, teach them how to

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access their own records or the records of other people, what I thought would be a lot

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of my time spent working the muscle of the intuitive edge for people.

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Like so if they feel tingling, how can we tunnel into that further and expand that tingling

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into a broader range of communication.

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That's where I thought I would spend a lot of my time when I'm working with people and

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teaching them how to access or how to work with the Akashic records.

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But honestly, a lot of what I'm doing is dismantling the way that we limit ourselves through

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belief systems or fears or doubts, which makes us have the impression of I can't access

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it.

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I can't get at it.

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There's nothing that comes in.

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It's crickets.

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It's quiet.

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There's nothing speaking to me.

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And I would almost push that conversation a little bit and say, okay, is there a place within

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you that can understand that you can't actually not be participating with it because it's connected.

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It's a matrix that's connected to everything that's alive, everything that has a consciousness.

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So if you're living breathing entity, you're in the soup of it whether you like it or not.

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And so what you're playing with is I actively co-participating with it or subconsciously

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co-participating with it.

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And that's where you play with it a bit.

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So then to lean into your question where you're asking, you know, okay, so how does something

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so mythical and mystery and of the non-physical realm become practical in the every day?

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Well, where I'd play with that, first of all, is maybe we put things too far on a mystical

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edge that it becomes non-relatable after time.

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And so can we take the Akashic records and dismantle some of the mystery around it and make

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it more practical in the sense of you have five senses.

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And so those are very dense when they're in your physical form.

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And when you start to go into, say, meditation or contemplation or even daydreaming can be

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a gateway in for some people or being in nature, you're going to move from a more dense,

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felt sense of yourself to a lighter state and your senses go from feeling to clear sentient

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to be able to feel when nothing is actually touching or taking place to be able to hear

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when no one's actually speaking.

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And so how that, so that's just the bridge of like, how is this available to everyone

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because you have senses, you have clairs and because you have clairs, that's the communication

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hub between the physical and non-physical.

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How you make it practical is allowing yourself to be open and available to receive the

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information that is constantly dancing with you on a daily basis, but perhaps were distracted

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by constantly having a phone or a busy lifestyle or noise around us that we can't hear

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the subtle information that's coming through.

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But still then that kind of makes me go back to my first question, how do you know that

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it's not just something you're thinking, you know, just like popped into your head or

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that it's something coming from the Akasha.

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Yeah, coming from the field.

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So that's where you have to, so that's where someone would play with it and work the muscle

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a little bit.

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So for sure, I can work with individuals and they can be like, okay, well, M.I.

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Experiencing this in the Akashic Records order, I watched something on Netflix yesterday

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that's coming through, that now making me think that I'm actually just repeating something

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that I watched on TV the night before.

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So there is this little bit of argument there with like, yes, let's find the distillation

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between the two.

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And if everything is communicating all the time, this is where I stretch it a bit, you can't

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ever decipher what is a part of the field and what is not a part of the field.

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Because it's, so for example, okay, I'll give, I'll give a little bit of a wild example.

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When I first started off, I had an individual come to me and this isn't how I normally

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work the records, but they were feeling like there is some sort of a,

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an entity of some sort that was just kind of giving them a lot of grief and making it challenging

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for them to see positive, to be able to have light and positive experiences in life.

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So then I went and worked with my, my teacher before this booking to be like, listen, I've

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never really worked with this before.

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I don't know even my own relationship with, say, curses or hexes or things like that.

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And she gave me some tools to work with when I was in a session with this individual.

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We went through the entire session, nothing came up at all.

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But then two days later, I had someone who I've known for a decade come in and do a session

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with me and all of the tools that that teacher was working with me with came in in that session.

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So everything is sort of setting everything up in a sense that everything can be useful.

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And so how I play with the Akashic records is, it's inclusive of everything and exclusive

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of nothing.

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You can spend a lot of time wondering, well, is this my imagination or is this actual?

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because we're so close to ourselves, we can't see it.

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But where it starts to become really interesting is in part two when I work with people, that's

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when you're starting to read the Akashic records for someone else.

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And when we work in those cohorts, you, I mean, you know them a little bit because you've

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spent a couple days with them in part one when we're learning how to access our own records.

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But essentially someone in the US is in my group and someone from the UK is in my group

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and they don't know each other other than just this training that we've come into.

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And so when they start to read their records and they're sharing things that are coming

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up through say a knowingness within them and they're sharing it because they have nothing

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else to go on.

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It starts to build the confidence in they're like, oh, this is actually how it comes through

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when I'm in my own records.

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And I keep getting in the way of myself by thinking it's my imagination and not letting

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the conscious stream flow.

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So it's like a stop, start, a stop, start, a stop, start when I'm working with myself.

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When I have ran totally in a blind reading and I know nothing about this individual, the

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only thing that I can lean into is the way that I'm intuiting what is coming through and

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sharing it within individual.

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And then that individual in their own way is going to bounce back and start sharing like

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yes, that's accurate or yes, that resonates.

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And then it starts to build the muscle from there.

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But there will always be the questioning and this is why so many people deny themselves

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the experience of playing with it because they don't want to come across as being an

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imposter or that they're being, you know, just creating almost like a movie reel and sharing

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it with the individual.

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So that boundary or that barometer, that skeptic, it's actually really healthy when we're

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going through learning how to read the records because it makes us cross check ourselves

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and makes us see if like is this accurate or is this not accurate?

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And the making it up energy, it's more dense than the energy that flows through in a current

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form and that's something that we also play with is like when you're when you're reading

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the Akashic records for someone right now, do you feel like you're you're listing information

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that's coming from your cognitive brain from your physical body or does it feel like you're

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in the lighter energy of your clear cognizance?

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There's so many different nuances and it's very personalized when I work with people to

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try and tease that out with them to see what what space are they reading it from?

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So I have a question that occurred to me as you were talking.

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We've had these conversations for many, many years and some of the some of the lessons

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that we've learned are they compound on each other so they all kind of touch on each other.

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So if that's the case, we've learned over the past hour and a half years that time is not

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linear and the Akashic records from my understanding is a record of everything that has ever happened

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to a soul or ever will happen to a soul.

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So are we able to access things that to us in 3D linear time are still yet to come?

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Yes, but I work with it from it's a probable energy, not an absolute.

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And so yeah, that's a really good point because it's like, oh, it's it's this past life in

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this past life.

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So even the conversation that you're sharing there, it's a tight line conversation.

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And so we language in that way because that's how the brain makes sense and it's able

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to hold conversation.

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If we talk in a way that if we talk in a way that doesn't have contrast or doesn't have

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time and space, then we can't be in conversation in this 3D form.

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So yes, we talk about past lives and future probabilities, but in the Akashic itself, it's

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all collapsed into present moment.

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And that's even hard for me to, it's hard to comprehend.

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It is.

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But it's like the way that I started to describe it is like, say, for example, in this

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life time I'm working with financial abundance.

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I can go into my own Akashic records and see is there a lifetime that I've had that I've

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been financially abundant?

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And if I can feel into that lifetime, then in present moment, I'm going to, it's almost

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like you're dipping into that lifetime.

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And I want to gather the resources from that lifetime and bring them into this lifetime

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to help me create more financial abundance.

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Now we're going to the nittyy.

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You can do that.

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How do you do that?

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So that, well, those are, so then you go into someone's Akashic, right?

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And if it's like, there's nothing like you've actually had several lives of being impoverished

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or you've had several lifetimes that were short or quick or maybe this is only your third

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round of hanging out on earth.

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And so there is no past lifetime where you've had financial abundance.

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So then you can go into the future version of yourself.

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If you want to play a little bit, the reason why you desire that in present moment is

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because there's a version of you who's already living out the fulfillment of what it is

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that you're desiring.

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And it's almost like a touch back into present moment to be like, hey, this is where it started.

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This is where you started to change the patterns of how you were living and started to add

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momentum in the direction of creating abundance.

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And so let's come into, from the future, let's come into the present and give you a few more

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resources to work with.

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So then, is it, I guess the Koshak records just rewrites itself as it goes because if it's

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a probable future, right?

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Yeah.

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And everything's already written, I would assume that, I mean, this gets crazy because if there

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is such a thing as timeline shifting and different dimensions that we're living in and every

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decision we make branches off into another version of us, that at Koshak records got

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to be freaking massive, right?

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But in the future, I guess it just is able to mold itself and rewrite itself to fit the

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timeline that you're currently on.

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I mean, you're also getting into line-to-ging that's getting a little bit beyond my own

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expertise of being able to say that with authority.

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And I also love to live in it.

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And here's what I've played with, here's what I've experienced, but nothing that I work

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with is dogmatic because that just goes back into kind of religious conditioning.

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And not that I do away from quite, quite intentionally.

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But if I'm doing a session with someone and they want to go into it, like, okay, I'm looking

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at changing my career right now and I'm wondering if this would be a good avenue for me or

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if this would be a good avenue.

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So when we go into future or even a relationship, a lot of people like to go into future relationships,

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how it makes sense to me when I'm playing with it is that there will be certain lines

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of energy that have more momentum going in that direction.

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And so that's what's going to come through when you're asking for data and information on

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it.

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Now, what I will say is when you are listening to this recording, if you're going to make

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action six to eight months from now based on what you're hearing today, might be a good

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idea to check back in and see if that line of energy is still accurate because a lot

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of it can happen in six to eight months to change that.

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So there's a lot of conversations I listen to.

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Is it predestined or do we have choice?

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And I think it's actually both at once.

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And it's not a very confirming answer for a lot of people that like the fucker white,

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but I really do feel like it is both slightly predestined and open to choice.

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So for example, potentially when you choose to come into this lifetime, you choose the

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country that you move in that you're born into, you choose the parents, you set up eye

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color, hair color, so many different conditions to your incarnation before you even arrive.

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And when you're experiencing that incarnation, you have so many different choices that you're

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taking that that's where the awareness of free will comes in.

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So yes, it's partly predestined and yes, there's also choice.

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And I appreciate how frustrating that can sound because it's not actually giving an absolute

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answer as this is it.

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Here we are.

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Especially to a pregnant person like me is trying to wrap your head around the concept

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like this.

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This has been the most difficult thing about doing this show.

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So then how can it be helpful?

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The whole conversation?

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Well, like tapping into the Akashic record.

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If they're changing or maybe not changing or you know, like how would that tapping and

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helping me with my life?

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We need to take a quick pause, but we'll be right back right after these messages.

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Karen, yes.

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We are doing something new coming up.

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We are doing something new coming up.

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Yeah, without giving it all away, what exactly do you think we can tease?

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Well, we're talking.

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We are.

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That's not nothing new.

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We talk a lot.

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Well, that's true.

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That's true.

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I don't know.

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Without giving it away, it's one word, one word.

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Okay.

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Go ahead, give it away.

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Live.

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We're doing some live shows.

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We'd love you to be involved with it every second Tuesday of the month.

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We'll be going live to new reality TV on our YouTube channel on our Facebook page.

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So if you aren't connected to us through any of those platforms, we strongly urge you to

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do so because we want you to come and participate in the show.

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You can ask those questions.

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It'll be just Karen, are you talking?

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Every once in a while, we'll bring in a special guest to talk to you guys.

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You can ask them questions as well.

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It'll be a lot of fun, very interactive and engaging.

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And so many of you have asked questions on our website.

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This way you could ask us kind of in person and we could answer them right away.

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Absolutely.

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So don't forget, it's every second Tuesday of the month on our YouTube and Facebook pages

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as well as on new reality TV.

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We are excited to get to know you more and more.

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Yes.

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We do have the opportunity to interact with you.

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Make sure you're there.

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And now back to the show.

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How would that tap and help me with my life?

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Well so it's so many different ways that we can play with it.

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So personally, I might disappoint some listeners but I don't actually ask a lot of questions

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when I go into the Akashic records.

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But the part of me that has to know what's coming and prepare for it, I'm a lot more relaxed

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of that relationship with myself.

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So when I'm going into the Akashic records, what I love to do is to experience just different

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states of consciousness.

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So I'll go into the Akashic records and I'll ask to have my cup filled for the day, right?

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How can the light filled energy just come in and how can I be of service to myself and

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to my vocation in a way that that feels like it's moving beyond my physical conditionings,

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my human conditionings, right?

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I might go in and just sit and bask in the Akashic records.

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And sometimes what will come in is something will ping after I've been in the record.

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So for example, most recently I've sort of reached a point with my work where I feel

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like I want to be expanding into a different arena rather than the one that I've been playing

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in up until now.

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And so I go into the Akashic records and all I'm asking is show me the ways in which I'm

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supported and the direction that I'm meant to be going at this time.

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Now it does not when I'm working with myself, it very rarely will come in instantly, like

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a well, Heather, thanks for asking that question.

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You're going to go next, right?

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So it's more like I sit in the frequency of my inquiry and allow myself to be kind of

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immersed in it and absorbed with it.

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And then what happened was later on that day, I got this ping to be like, hey, remember

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that corporate option that you had pre-COVID that wasn't open to mental health fitness, they're

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open now because lots has changed post COVID and go and reach out.

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So literally sent an email later that day to someone that I emailed six years ago and

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was like, hey, you guys open for the conversation now.

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And it was like, absolutely, let's talk.

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So it's ways like that.

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It's not always like people really want the direct specific like show me exactly the man

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that I'm supposed to be marrying in the next six months.

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And they want these very concrete ways of playing with it.

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I just let it, I let it be more co-participating, co-creating.

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It's a relational field, which means you have to be in relationship to it.

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So if I'm going in and every time I'm going in, I'm simply imposing.

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It's almost like I'm trying to be an authority over rather than to coincide and exist beside.

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So I will go in and say, hey, I really feel like potentially this relationship is coming to an end.

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And the response I might get is possibly from your human perspective, but from here, there's

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still some things that I'm not going to be able to do.

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That is possibly from your human perspective, but from here, there's still so much that

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can come from it.

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We're going to ask you to just hang on for a little bit longer and see how you can play

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with that a bit more.

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So it's a conversation back and forth, not an authoritative relationship, if that makes sense.

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You're walking along in your regular life.

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And all of a sudden, you find yourself able to tap into these records or did you actually

453
00:30:32,000 --> 00:30:36,560
work towards, I want to tap into these acoustic records.

454
00:30:36,560 --> 00:30:38,280
How did that work for you?

455
00:30:38,280 --> 00:30:42,720
No, I wanted nothing to do with the artist.

456
00:30:42,720 --> 00:30:44,520
Yeah.

457
00:30:44,520 --> 00:30:53,080
So I love working with the energetic realm in a very socially accepted way is like how

458
00:30:53,080 --> 00:30:55,160
I've kind of lived up until this point.

459
00:30:55,160 --> 00:31:02,000
So when I merged into yoga 20 years ago, it was right when yoga studios were starting to

460
00:31:02,000 --> 00:31:07,120
become like, you know, the corner, like just right beside the coffee shops on every corner.

461
00:31:07,120 --> 00:31:11,240
But just as I was going through the training, it was still like in the oshrams and in like

462
00:31:11,240 --> 00:31:13,440
these quiet, secluded places.

463
00:31:13,440 --> 00:31:17,960
And literally within like six months of me completing my teacher training, it kind of,

464
00:31:17,960 --> 00:31:21,280
that was when yoga was blowing up and it was ever so by the time I moved into it, I was

465
00:31:21,280 --> 00:31:23,040
like, yeah, I'm doing yoga and they're like, oh, that's great.

466
00:31:23,040 --> 00:31:26,680
So it was always very accepted.

467
00:31:26,680 --> 00:31:29,040
People recognized the health benefits of it.

468
00:31:29,040 --> 00:31:36,520
I didn't feel like I was out on the fringes or, you know, in an unrelated way of hanging

469
00:31:36,520 --> 00:31:37,520
out with people.

470
00:31:37,520 --> 00:31:44,160
Now, when I moved into the Akashic records, all that I was longing for was a way to be able

471
00:31:44,160 --> 00:31:50,520
to connect with people in a deeper, more meaningful way that I was aware that a one-hour yoga

472
00:31:50,520 --> 00:31:52,880
class couldn't provide.

473
00:31:52,880 --> 00:31:56,440
And even when I did, like I taught a lot of teacher trainings in yoga as well, but there's

474
00:31:56,440 --> 00:32:00,560
a lot of curriculum that you have to get through in a teacher training.

475
00:32:00,560 --> 00:32:02,520
So it's rigid in a sense.

476
00:32:02,520 --> 00:32:07,440
And I was like, I just want a way to be able to have deeper, more meaningful connections

477
00:32:07,440 --> 00:32:08,640
with people.

478
00:32:08,640 --> 00:32:09,840
And I don't know what that is.

479
00:32:09,840 --> 00:32:13,200
And I just let that sit out there this sort of longing.

480
00:32:13,200 --> 00:32:19,680
And how the Akashic came to me was when COVID hit my husband's aviation, I'm yoga.

481
00:32:19,680 --> 00:32:23,360
So both of our industries were shut down instantly and we were home.

482
00:32:23,360 --> 00:32:27,280
Our two older daughters were at home school, but our youngest son was still able to go to

483
00:32:27,280 --> 00:32:28,280
preschool.

484
00:32:28,280 --> 00:32:32,000
So it was kind of the situation where we were all together, but the girls were, you know,

485
00:32:32,000 --> 00:32:33,000
learning online.

486
00:32:33,000 --> 00:32:34,760
But our son was occupied.

487
00:32:34,760 --> 00:32:40,880
And so my husband and I were just given opportunity to be like, it was almost like a privilege

488
00:32:40,880 --> 00:32:41,880
in a sense.

489
00:32:41,880 --> 00:32:44,560
And I know a lot of people had a challenge at that time for us.

490
00:32:44,560 --> 00:32:48,440
I was like, wow, like we just get this time freedom to play with.

491
00:32:48,440 --> 00:32:52,320
So I just found myself doing a lot of yoga practices and meditations.

492
00:32:52,320 --> 00:32:57,400
And every time I'd sit in meditation, I would just have this little request, like show me

493
00:32:57,400 --> 00:32:59,760
how I can go deeper and further.

494
00:32:59,760 --> 00:33:03,960
And there was three nights in a row where this particular woman's name came to mind.

495
00:33:03,960 --> 00:33:07,080
Now I had met her in the summertime.

496
00:33:07,080 --> 00:33:12,880
And when I knew her from our family's upbringing, but I hadn't talked to her in like 20 years.

497
00:33:12,880 --> 00:33:13,880
And I said, hey, what are you doing?

498
00:33:13,880 --> 00:33:15,960
She said, oh, I work the Akashic records.

499
00:33:15,960 --> 00:33:18,920
She gave me her card, I touched in my wallet, I didn't even think anything of it.

500
00:33:18,920 --> 00:33:22,480
But her name came up three times in a row when I was meditating.

501
00:33:22,480 --> 00:33:25,680
And so by the third time I was like, okay, I'm going to reach out.

502
00:33:25,680 --> 00:33:31,040
And I sent her an email and said, listen, your name has come up three times.

503
00:33:31,040 --> 00:33:32,280
I have no idea what it means.

504
00:33:32,280 --> 00:33:36,520
But I do feel like you will when you receive this email.

505
00:33:36,520 --> 00:33:41,320
And she wrote back and she was like, well, maybe it's time to book an Akashic reading.

506
00:33:41,320 --> 00:33:43,280
Are you open to doing that with me?

507
00:33:43,280 --> 00:33:44,520
And so that's how it started.

508
00:33:44,520 --> 00:33:46,680
I booked a reading with her.

509
00:33:46,680 --> 00:33:51,000
She shared that I was using the Akashic records a lot, but not in a conscious way in a very

510
00:33:51,000 --> 00:33:52,680
subconscious way.

511
00:33:52,680 --> 00:33:56,080
And she's like, if you want, we can bring this more to a conscious level.

512
00:33:56,080 --> 00:33:57,840
And I can work with you in that.

513
00:33:57,840 --> 00:34:02,360
So I had the time and it wasn't an expensive training.

514
00:34:02,360 --> 00:34:04,480
And so I was like, okay, let's do it.

515
00:34:04,480 --> 00:34:09,680
And then even when we finished and I was ready to just kind of go and start using it on

516
00:34:09,680 --> 00:34:13,200
my own, I said to her, what are we going to call this?

517
00:34:13,200 --> 00:34:15,080
There's no one where I live.

518
00:34:15,080 --> 00:34:19,360
I live in a small mountain town that's, it's skiing, it's mountain biking, it's fly fishing,

519
00:34:19,360 --> 00:34:21,440
it's not the metaphysical at all.

520
00:34:21,440 --> 00:34:23,560
I was like, nobody's even going to know what this is.

521
00:34:23,560 --> 00:34:27,440
Like, how do I work with this and create an income from it?

522
00:34:27,440 --> 00:34:30,840
And all she said was, you're going international.

523
00:34:30,840 --> 00:34:34,440
And if you don't call it what it is, people aren't going to be able to find you.

524
00:34:34,440 --> 00:34:39,760
And it just went from there, but there's even now I've just finished writing a book on

525
00:34:39,760 --> 00:34:42,760
like the Akashic records for the modern human.

526
00:34:42,760 --> 00:34:48,920
And there's so much in there that I had to work through in my own skepticism with a lot

527
00:34:48,920 --> 00:34:54,320
of this because a lot of how I like to live is like, if it's not practical to the everyday

528
00:34:54,320 --> 00:34:55,840
why bother?

529
00:34:55,840 --> 00:35:01,320
If it's not making this particular life more meaningful, more expressive, what's the point?

530
00:35:01,320 --> 00:35:06,520
And so even as a yoga teacher, I would shy away from, you know, those teachers that really

531
00:35:06,520 --> 00:35:15,840
live through rose colors, glasses, and, you know, they could travel to amazing states, but couldn't

532
00:35:15,840 --> 00:35:17,920
pay utility bill, right?

533
00:35:17,920 --> 00:35:21,920
Couldn't meet for coffee at the right time because they got it wrong on their calendar.

534
00:35:21,920 --> 00:35:27,480
So I've always been interested in the energetic ground, but I've very much done it in a grounded

535
00:35:27,480 --> 00:35:28,480
way.

536
00:35:28,480 --> 00:35:32,040
And so the Akashic records has to be grounded in the practical.

537
00:35:32,040 --> 00:35:38,680
And honestly, the process of learning how to work with the Akashic records is such a tremendous

538
00:35:38,680 --> 00:35:43,560
journey to know that itself, to see where you actually have hidden talents and gifts that

539
00:35:43,560 --> 00:35:48,360
you didn't even know were available because you couldn't see them or someone shut them down,

540
00:35:48,360 --> 00:35:52,120
to see where you hold yourself back, to see where your blind spots are.

541
00:35:52,120 --> 00:35:58,200
So really is a continuous journey to really understand and know that I sell.

542
00:35:58,200 --> 00:36:02,960
Is this another word for psychic abilities?

543
00:36:02,960 --> 00:36:06,800
No, I mean, it's a mediumship that they're relatable.

544
00:36:06,800 --> 00:36:11,200
So the Akashic records is its own modality.

545
00:36:11,200 --> 00:36:14,600
You stay conscious the whole time you're in the Akashic records.

546
00:36:14,600 --> 00:36:17,760
Like it almost probably feel like we're having a conversation like we are right now, we

547
00:36:17,760 --> 00:36:20,680
were to do a reading together.

548
00:36:20,680 --> 00:36:27,320
And some people will use the Akashic records to help open up their mediumship of psychic

549
00:36:27,320 --> 00:36:30,520
abilities, but they're separate.

550
00:36:30,520 --> 00:36:33,360
They're not like, I don't do any psychic mediumship.

551
00:36:33,360 --> 00:36:34,920
And I work with the Akashic records all the time.

552
00:36:34,920 --> 00:36:38,920
I just wasn't sure if maybe that is that would the psychic is actually tapping into the

553
00:36:38,920 --> 00:36:44,520
Akashic records and don't realize it or, you know, well, if you're using the definition

554
00:36:44,520 --> 00:36:51,040
of Akashic as consciousness and or the quantum field, like of course, they're tapping into

555
00:36:51,040 --> 00:36:56,480
it because that's, you can't not be tapping into it.

556
00:36:56,480 --> 00:36:59,440
It's like trying out to breathe air.

557
00:36:59,440 --> 00:37:00,680
It's all around you.

558
00:37:00,680 --> 00:37:02,920
It's everywhere you can't not breathe air, right?

559
00:37:02,920 --> 00:37:04,080
That's what you're designed to do.

560
00:37:04,080 --> 00:37:05,080
Yeah, watch me.

561
00:37:05,080 --> 00:37:07,040
Akashic breath, breathe air.

562
00:37:07,040 --> 00:37:08,040
Let's see.

563
00:37:08,040 --> 00:37:11,840
So the Akashic breathes air, but the the psychic don't breathe air.

564
00:37:11,840 --> 00:37:17,760
Like it's almost like the rakey, the psychic's, you're all using something from the universal

565
00:37:17,760 --> 00:37:23,120
field that you're tapping into, but it's literally like, what are you plugging into?

566
00:37:23,120 --> 00:37:28,840
And so the Akashic records is plugging into the vibrational library of someone's soul,

567
00:37:28,840 --> 00:37:30,080
a psychic mediumship.

568
00:37:30,080 --> 00:37:32,440
I don't fully understand.

569
00:37:32,440 --> 00:37:36,280
I haven't like researched enough to know exactly how they would define that.

570
00:37:36,280 --> 00:37:40,520
But is it mediumship in the sense that like for me, how I understand mediumship is the

571
00:37:40,520 --> 00:37:42,840
bridge between the physical, monon physical?

572
00:37:42,840 --> 00:37:43,840
So absolutely.

573
00:37:43,840 --> 00:37:44,840
That's what the Akash is doing.

574
00:37:44,840 --> 00:37:45,840
That's what rakey is doing.

575
00:37:45,840 --> 00:37:49,440
That's what psychic work is doing, someone and so forth.

576
00:37:49,440 --> 00:37:53,080
So when you have a session with someone and you're tapping into their Akashic records,

577
00:37:53,080 --> 00:38:01,960
do you have to go into meditation or is it just like there and you're getting the information?

578
00:38:01,960 --> 00:38:02,960
Yeah.

579
00:38:02,960 --> 00:38:09,040
So when I first started, I used to spend about 20 to 30 minutes before a session, meditating

580
00:38:09,040 --> 00:38:15,600
just with myself to almost prepare myself for the session because the muscle wasn't super

581
00:38:15,600 --> 00:38:20,600
strong for me to be able to just flick the switch from, you know, pack on my kids lunch

582
00:38:20,600 --> 00:38:23,720
to then going and sitting in my office and doing a session.

583
00:38:23,720 --> 00:38:28,200
So I needed that buffer between the two to get me out of the density of like my to-do

584
00:38:28,200 --> 00:38:31,200
list and into like a more lighter state.

585
00:38:31,200 --> 00:38:37,360
But now it can be pretty, pretty quick, but I just personally like to have transitions between

586
00:38:37,360 --> 00:38:41,120
whatever I was doing prior to doing something and what I'm doing now.

587
00:38:41,120 --> 00:38:45,440
The other thing that that's important is that the person who's doing the reading has to

588
00:38:45,440 --> 00:38:51,080
be incredibly skilled at being able to be neutral.

589
00:38:51,080 --> 00:38:55,560
So there will be information that comes through and the Heather and me might be like, "Oh,

590
00:38:55,560 --> 00:39:00,400
it sounds very like direct and almost like blunt."

591
00:39:00,400 --> 00:39:04,400
And then it'll get this push that'll be like, "That's exactly how it needs to be said."

592
00:39:04,400 --> 00:39:10,640
So keep in mind, when I'm in someone's records, I'm in their vibrational frequency, not mine.

593
00:39:10,640 --> 00:39:18,400
So if someone understands best by direct, no nonsense, languaging, then that's how the

594
00:39:18,400 --> 00:39:20,080
data is actually going to come through.

595
00:39:20,080 --> 00:39:26,080
If someone needs a lot of softness and tiptoeing around it, then that's actually how it gets

596
00:39:26,080 --> 00:39:27,080
languaged.

597
00:39:27,080 --> 00:39:32,000
If people are like really fast, fast energies, there's sometimes I'm in their field and I'm

598
00:39:32,000 --> 00:39:37,640
like almost gasping because I'm talking so fast, like faster than my normal cadence.

599
00:39:37,640 --> 00:39:40,040
And sometimes it feels like I'm smoking a joint.

600
00:39:40,040 --> 00:39:42,880
And I'm just like, "Oh my gosh, so slow."

601
00:39:42,880 --> 00:39:44,120
That's the one I want.

602
00:39:44,120 --> 00:39:46,640
Yeah, I'm like, "The glass is moving through here."

603
00:39:46,640 --> 00:39:51,320
But it's just that everyone has a different frequency, a different energetic pattern.

604
00:39:51,320 --> 00:39:58,200
So the neutralness is what's most important because I'm not sure to provide a nice experience.

605
00:39:58,200 --> 00:40:01,160
I'm sure to just provide the space for what wants to come through.

606
00:40:01,160 --> 00:40:06,600
So I have to make sure my own people pleasing and wanting to be liked energy is really

607
00:40:06,600 --> 00:40:09,440
like putting the back seat for the session that I'm doing.

608
00:40:09,440 --> 00:40:10,440
Yeah.

609
00:40:10,440 --> 00:40:14,840
So you mentioned that the record reflect our soul's evolution, right?

610
00:40:14,840 --> 00:40:18,160
So what do they say about the collective transformation?

611
00:40:18,160 --> 00:40:20,000
Are we evolving together?

612
00:40:20,000 --> 00:40:22,800
Is there something that we need to know that with the Catholic records baiting on your

613
00:40:22,800 --> 00:40:26,400
door saying you need to get this out there?

614
00:40:26,400 --> 00:40:28,480
You mean like what's my collective message?

615
00:40:28,480 --> 00:40:29,480
Yeah.

616
00:40:29,480 --> 00:40:35,880
Or well, so it's an interesting question because I don't work with the collective a whole

617
00:40:35,880 --> 00:40:36,880
lot.

618
00:40:36,880 --> 00:40:38,720
I work more with the personal individual.

619
00:40:38,720 --> 00:40:41,600
So I don't spend a lot of time.

620
00:40:41,600 --> 00:40:44,880
So also like people like, "Who do you mean you haven't gone into the Acacia records on

621
00:40:44,880 --> 00:40:46,280
this and you haven't gone into this?"

622
00:40:46,280 --> 00:40:50,040
And I'm like, "Okay, we'll also keep in mind I'm a mother of three.

623
00:40:50,040 --> 00:40:51,640
I work full time.

624
00:40:51,640 --> 00:40:53,840
I need to prioritize my own wellness."

625
00:40:53,840 --> 00:40:58,400
So there isn't just this uninterrupted amount of time that I happen a week to just go into

626
00:40:58,400 --> 00:41:02,120
all the different experiences that you can do with the Acacia records.

627
00:41:02,120 --> 00:41:09,940
I personally never get pulled to spend a lot of time trying to understand what the collective

628
00:41:09,940 --> 00:41:11,960
energy is playing with.

629
00:41:11,960 --> 00:41:16,600
But for example, like I have like an alumni group and we just meet live on sub-stack.

630
00:41:16,600 --> 00:41:19,560
And when we were in there this month, what we just went into is I was like, "Let's go

631
00:41:19,560 --> 00:41:23,120
into not like the predictions of 2026.

632
00:41:23,120 --> 00:41:26,040
Let's go into the felt frequency of 2026."

633
00:41:26,040 --> 00:41:29,400
So we just opened up the frequency of 2026.

634
00:41:29,400 --> 00:41:34,880
And how we played with it was there was a group of probably 12 individuals.

635
00:41:34,880 --> 00:41:40,840
We opened it up as a group so every single person is opening it up at the same time.

636
00:41:40,840 --> 00:41:46,760
And I would just give little prompts into the space that they could automatic write.

637
00:41:46,760 --> 00:41:49,200
They could make a mental note on all the rest of it.

638
00:41:49,200 --> 00:41:55,280
And then once we closed and came into like a Q&A kind of conversation afterwards, that's

639
00:41:55,280 --> 00:42:01,240
where I find it fascinating because everyone had a very similar experience of what sort

640
00:42:01,240 --> 00:42:03,400
of the 2026 frequency was.

641
00:42:03,400 --> 00:42:06,560
And what was so interesting was that it was actually very quiet.

642
00:42:06,560 --> 00:42:08,760
It was a lot of noise.

643
00:42:08,760 --> 00:42:11,080
It felt like it was an elusive energy.

644
00:42:11,080 --> 00:42:18,040
It felt like it was still kind of processing what's happened and hadn't quite had a line

645
00:42:18,040 --> 00:42:21,600
of direction on exactly what's taking place next.

646
00:42:21,600 --> 00:42:24,520
And almost everyone was having this similar experience.

647
00:42:24,520 --> 00:42:29,000
So I guess that's as far as I've gone with the collective energy of 2026.

648
00:42:29,000 --> 00:42:36,600
That were in a transitional period of still reflecting on where we've gotten up until

649
00:42:36,600 --> 00:42:40,840
now and using that as agency as to how we want to step forward.

650
00:42:40,840 --> 00:42:46,200
So there's very, it's almost like a pause, like an energetic pause was what I was feeling.

651
00:42:46,200 --> 00:42:52,280
Now, do I go super far into like, you know, what's happening in the next five to 10 years?

652
00:42:52,280 --> 00:42:55,960
It doesn't super turn me on and interest me to go there.

653
00:42:55,960 --> 00:42:59,320
So it's either that we're taking a pause or that there is no future.

654
00:42:59,320 --> 00:43:00,320
One or the other.

655
00:43:00,320 --> 00:43:01,320
(laughs)

656
00:43:01,320 --> 00:43:02,320
Both are options.

657
00:43:02,320 --> 00:43:03,320
Yeah, oh my God.

658
00:43:03,320 --> 00:43:06,720
But like Mr. IT Media Ship would have so much information.

659
00:43:06,720 --> 00:43:11,920
Like I still get my astrology emails and, you know, like I love the power path and getting

660
00:43:11,920 --> 00:43:14,280
a monthly forecast from them and Mystic Mama.

661
00:43:14,280 --> 00:43:20,360
Like these are great, very practical tools that I'll read and listen to.

662
00:43:20,360 --> 00:43:27,520
I really love working with the individual with like, what is the patterns that are preventing

663
00:43:27,520 --> 00:43:30,600
you from the becoming of yourself?

664
00:43:30,600 --> 00:43:35,120
What's the patterns that are telling you that you can't behave the way you want to be?

665
00:43:35,120 --> 00:43:38,800
And how can we use the Cache of Records help to support that?

666
00:43:38,800 --> 00:43:43,400
Your upcoming book says it connects the records with Waters Intelligence.

667
00:43:43,400 --> 00:43:45,200
Oh, yeah.

668
00:43:45,200 --> 00:43:48,800
How do you see science catching up with what Mystics have known for centuries about the

669
00:43:48,800 --> 00:43:50,800
intelligence of Warner?

670
00:43:50,800 --> 00:43:57,800
Well, what I'm really enjoying right now, like part of the aliveness of this moment is,

671
00:43:57,800 --> 00:44:04,800
you know, science and spirituality were separated hundreds of years ago, more for convenience,

672
00:44:04,800 --> 00:44:05,800
right?

673
00:44:05,800 --> 00:44:09,400
Like the church is going to take on spirituality and science can take on the material

674
00:44:09,400 --> 00:44:10,400
plane, right?

675
00:44:10,400 --> 00:44:14,080
So it was more like practicality in how to keep everyone happy.

676
00:44:14,080 --> 00:44:20,640
What's super interesting is like the quantum field is accelerating to such a degree that

677
00:44:20,640 --> 00:44:26,200
it can no longer deny or it's getting to the point where the denial of the non-physical

678
00:44:26,200 --> 00:44:32,920
realm can sit in the science space anymore because science will be unable to keep moving

679
00:44:32,920 --> 00:44:33,920
forward.

680
00:44:33,920 --> 00:44:39,840
So it's almost like what was once separated is now coming full circle and joining back

681
00:44:39,840 --> 00:44:41,080
in towards each other.

682
00:44:41,080 --> 00:44:47,680
So I find it really interesting and fascinating to be in these little conversations that I'm

683
00:44:47,680 --> 00:44:54,720
hearing about how science is talking about how even the black hole, the void space, right,

684
00:44:54,720 --> 00:44:59,140
how this was once considered the nothingness and that has no significance is actually the

685
00:44:59,140 --> 00:45:01,120
everything, right?

686
00:45:01,120 --> 00:45:05,360
So remind me again, I think I derailed a little bit from what your original question was,

687
00:45:05,360 --> 00:45:07,720
it was about the, oh, the water, right?

688
00:45:07,720 --> 00:45:11,360
So water, Veda Austin's work is fascinating.

689
00:45:11,360 --> 00:45:14,960
She's a Kiwi and so she does something called crystallography.

690
00:45:14,960 --> 00:45:23,720
And so this is similar to the Japanese scientists who was showing how thought can be shown

691
00:45:23,720 --> 00:45:26,600
through the crystallization of water.

692
00:45:26,600 --> 00:45:30,920
And where she's kind of stretching the conversation a little bit further, which I really find

693
00:45:30,920 --> 00:45:36,200
interesting to listen to is like if memory, if water holds memory, right?

694
00:45:36,200 --> 00:45:40,360
This is like even those that don't listen to the bigger conversations, you can literally

695
00:45:40,360 --> 00:45:46,320
watch frozen on Disney and listen to how Olaf talks about how water holds memory.

696
00:45:46,320 --> 00:45:48,720
Like it's, it is common conversation.

697
00:45:48,720 --> 00:45:52,440
You just have to be in the conversation to see that it's more common than, than if you're

698
00:45:52,440 --> 00:45:54,640
hearing it for the first time here.

699
00:45:54,640 --> 00:45:59,640
But like water holds memory and water is constantly recycled, right?

700
00:45:59,640 --> 00:46:03,480
It goes from vapor and it goes into density and then it goes into liquid and it just is

701
00:46:03,480 --> 00:46:06,600
constantly being recycled and it holds memory.

702
00:46:06,600 --> 00:46:13,840
So the conversation that she's stretching is can we start to look at water and consciousness

703
00:46:13,840 --> 00:46:20,840
as being synonymous because everything that you're encased with has water.

704
00:46:20,840 --> 00:46:22,800
Like air has water.

705
00:46:22,800 --> 00:46:25,640
You have to drink water in order to survive.

706
00:46:25,640 --> 00:46:30,960
Even something that looks like it doesn't have water like mineral actually has water molecules

707
00:46:30,960 --> 00:46:36,320
in it and when you want to hear the sound that rock makes, you can hook up instruments that

708
00:46:36,320 --> 00:46:43,200
are literally tapping into the water frequency to make the sound that the rocks are emoting

709
00:46:43,200 --> 00:46:44,800
and emitting out.

710
00:46:44,800 --> 00:46:49,480
So that's where I find it really interesting is like water is not a triggering word for a

711
00:46:49,480 --> 00:46:50,480
lot of people.

712
00:46:50,480 --> 00:46:56,520
But if you want to talk God or spirit or religion or energy, there's usually, you got to use

713
00:46:56,520 --> 00:47:03,560
so many different words to make the conversation inclusive because there's so many people that

714
00:47:03,560 --> 00:47:07,400
have triggers with different words in that language.

715
00:47:07,400 --> 00:47:10,840
But water for the most part is a pretty neutral language.

716
00:47:10,840 --> 00:47:16,440
So if you want to open up conversation about water being synonymous with consciousness,

717
00:47:16,440 --> 00:47:20,040
I love the freedom that it invites people to come in and talk about.

718
00:47:20,040 --> 00:47:26,080
So if you can never separate from spirit, if you can never separate from source, from energy,

719
00:47:26,080 --> 00:47:28,840
it's the same with water, you can't separate from it.

720
00:47:28,840 --> 00:47:34,760
It's in absolutely everything and it holds the memory of everything that was.

721
00:47:34,760 --> 00:47:38,840
So essentially how I'm playing with it is like, because I do get curious, like what is

722
00:47:38,840 --> 00:47:41,320
actually happening in an Akashic reading?

723
00:47:41,320 --> 00:47:47,240
Well, what if the water molecules inside my body are connecting to the water molecules

724
00:47:47,240 --> 00:47:52,280
inside your body and they're languaging with each other because they speak the same language?

725
00:47:52,280 --> 00:47:53,800
Oh, I like that.

726
00:47:53,800 --> 00:47:54,800
Super cool.

727
00:47:54,800 --> 00:47:55,800
It's not, right?

728
00:47:55,800 --> 00:47:58,080
You can do another way to play with it.

729
00:47:58,080 --> 00:47:59,080
Right.

730
00:47:59,080 --> 00:48:00,080
Right.

731
00:48:00,080 --> 00:48:02,800
Well, is someone wanted to experience the records?

732
00:48:02,800 --> 00:48:06,200
Maybe they're still not 100% sure that they believe in it.

733
00:48:06,200 --> 00:48:13,640
What's the one simple first step they could take to experience this field for themselves?

734
00:48:13,640 --> 00:48:14,640
Hmm.

735
00:48:14,640 --> 00:48:21,920
Well, I would start by being open to receive, first of all, because you can't absorb anything

736
00:48:21,920 --> 00:48:23,440
if you're heart edging against it.

737
00:48:23,440 --> 00:48:27,160
To see if you can soften, like for some people it's a physical softening, for some people

738
00:48:27,160 --> 00:48:30,120
it's an energetic, some people it's emotional, sometimes it's mental.

739
00:48:30,120 --> 00:48:35,480
So what needs to be softened so that I can be open to the conversation of it?

740
00:48:35,480 --> 00:48:43,000
And then I would, I would start with playing with like, recalling a moment in life where

741
00:48:43,000 --> 00:48:46,720
something took place that you couldn't actually rationally explain it.

742
00:48:46,720 --> 00:48:51,200
You were thinking of mom and mom called two minutes later.

743
00:48:51,200 --> 00:48:58,480
You had a vision of, I don't know, a job promotion and you got that job promotion the next month.

744
00:48:58,480 --> 00:49:03,120
Like what is something that's like, it is just so crazy I can't even explain it.

745
00:49:03,120 --> 00:49:05,400
Because that is the communicative field.

746
00:49:05,400 --> 00:49:06,400
And then if you're like, I'd do it.

747
00:49:06,400 --> 00:49:08,960
I just, I never even had that happen before.

748
00:49:08,960 --> 00:49:12,000
Well, you can go and see how it takes place in nature.

749
00:49:12,000 --> 00:49:16,960
When you watch those swarms of birds be moving in one direction and then instantly they all

750
00:49:16,960 --> 00:49:18,680
go in another direction.

751
00:49:18,680 --> 00:49:21,800
It's not someone sending a message down the line.

752
00:49:21,800 --> 00:49:23,480
I mean, why is it going to laugh?

753
00:49:23,480 --> 00:49:25,560
But going right, we're going to take a laugh to you.

754
00:49:25,560 --> 00:49:32,820
Like that is an instant in sync intelligence that makes that that that flock of birds go

755
00:49:32,820 --> 00:49:34,280
in another pattern.

756
00:49:34,280 --> 00:49:38,320
So there's, there's a lot of ways that nature will even emulate that, right?

757
00:49:38,320 --> 00:49:40,440
So first it's like, are you even open to it?

758
00:49:40,440 --> 00:49:43,280
And if you're open to it, what makes you open to it?

759
00:49:43,280 --> 00:49:48,080
And then also if you want to go back to my conversation of future sort of pinging, a

760
00:49:48,080 --> 00:49:51,160
lot of people that come in and reach out to me, they're like, they're like, I don't even

761
00:49:51,160 --> 00:49:54,960
actually know why I'm booking this or why I'm asking questions about it.

762
00:49:54,960 --> 00:50:00,680
But I just keep getting this like niggling or tingling that like, there's something more

763
00:50:00,680 --> 00:50:04,080
than this physical existence that I'm participating in.

764
00:50:04,080 --> 00:50:06,280
And so that's where we just start to play with it.

765
00:50:06,280 --> 00:50:13,760
So in order for someone to actually be curious, that curiosity itself has to be coming from

766
00:50:13,760 --> 00:50:15,240
something beyond the mind space.

767
00:50:15,240 --> 00:50:16,880
Otherwise, they go and read a book on it.

768
00:50:16,880 --> 00:50:18,880
Rather than trying to have an experience of it.

769
00:50:18,880 --> 00:50:19,880
Absolutely.

770
00:50:19,880 --> 00:50:20,880
Yeah.

771
00:50:20,880 --> 00:50:21,880
Yeah.

772
00:50:21,880 --> 00:50:27,400
So then from there, it's just like, okay, so then in the session, I mean, if I'm doing a session

773
00:50:27,400 --> 00:50:32,080
with someone, I do my very best to meet the person where they're at.

774
00:50:32,080 --> 00:50:34,920
So I mean, if they're going to be talk, if they're more of a meat and potatoes, I'm going

775
00:50:34,920 --> 00:50:38,960
to talk in language that's more, you know, easier for them to understand.

776
00:50:38,960 --> 00:50:43,880
And if they're more as a tarot, then I'll talk more vegetarian if I want to, right?

777
00:50:43,880 --> 00:50:48,760
But I allow myself to have, to create a space where people feel welcome.

778
00:50:48,760 --> 00:50:53,320
And I'll be the first to say, like, I don't have all the answers to all the things, but we

779
00:50:53,320 --> 00:50:56,200
can have an experience together and you can let me know how it goes.

780
00:50:56,200 --> 00:50:57,200
Yeah.

781
00:50:57,200 --> 00:51:01,880
Well, if someone wanted to experience that with you, or maybe set up for a wait list for

782
00:51:01,880 --> 00:51:06,520
your book or someone willing, wants to connect with you to dive deeper into the topic,

783
00:51:06,520 --> 00:51:08,560
what's the best way for someone to do that?

784
00:51:08,560 --> 00:51:09,560
Yeah.

785
00:51:09,560 --> 00:51:13,000
I'd say my website has all the other links to everything else.

786
00:51:13,000 --> 00:51:18,800
And if you go to my website, which is just my name, it's Heather Ivany, IVanyy.com, there's

787
00:51:18,800 --> 00:51:20,080
lots of free on there.

788
00:51:20,080 --> 00:51:23,800
So there's lots of things that you can listen to and check out that are free.

789
00:51:23,800 --> 00:51:26,440
You can also subscribe to on sub-stack.

790
00:51:26,440 --> 00:51:31,320
And I meet once there for live gathering and that's a minimal payment.

791
00:51:31,320 --> 00:51:35,720
But to book a session and to get interest into the next upcoming, a cash training, it's

792
00:51:35,720 --> 00:51:37,520
all on my website there.

793
00:51:37,520 --> 00:51:40,520
And if you can't find anything you're looking for, then just reach out and email.

794
00:51:40,520 --> 00:51:44,200
And I do personally respond to those I don't have an assistant that does that.

795
00:51:44,200 --> 00:51:45,200
Okay.

796
00:51:45,200 --> 00:51:48,600
We're going to link to your website on our show notes.

797
00:51:48,600 --> 00:51:51,680
So if you didn't have a pen in that particular point in time, you know, the deal is go to

798
00:51:51,680 --> 00:51:52,680
skepticmanivision.com.

799
00:51:52,680 --> 00:51:54,200
You can go to her episode page.

800
00:51:54,200 --> 00:51:55,440
You'll find a link directly there.

801
00:51:55,440 --> 00:51:57,240
So it's easy for you to connect.

802
00:51:57,240 --> 00:52:00,280
This has been eye opening in so many different ways.

803
00:52:00,280 --> 00:52:03,200
Thank you so much for coming on and sharing your wisdom with us.

804
00:52:03,200 --> 00:52:08,240
I am going to reach out because I've asked some questions.

805
00:52:08,240 --> 00:52:09,240
Okay.

806
00:52:09,240 --> 00:52:13,720
Thanks for having me on and being open to a different conversation.

807
00:52:13,720 --> 00:52:14,720
Always, always.

808
00:52:14,720 --> 00:52:15,720
All right.

809
00:52:15,720 --> 00:52:16,720
It's a pleasure meeting you.

810
00:52:16,720 --> 00:52:17,720
We'll talk to you again soon.

811
00:52:17,720 --> 00:52:18,720
Take care.

812
00:52:18,720 --> 00:52:19,720
I'm just going to take care.

813
00:52:19,720 --> 00:52:20,720
Okay.

814
00:52:20,720 --> 00:52:21,720
Well, that does it for this episode of the skepticmanivision.

815
00:52:21,720 --> 00:52:24,200
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816
00:52:24,200 --> 00:52:29,840
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817
00:52:29,840 --> 00:52:34,240
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818
00:52:34,240 --> 00:52:36,400
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819
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820
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822
00:52:47,680 --> 00:52:52,800
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825
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