The “Spinal Cord of God”: How Consciousness Records Your Choices, Patterns & Potential

0:00 So Karen, I have a confession. Oh boy. It's a doozy. Not boat well. It does not. Because I may have committed us to a conversation that could either blow our minds or make us rethink every bad haircut, every ex-boyfriend or girlfriend and questionable life choices we've ever made. That's a lot of thinking. It is for you. Me, you know. Yeah. You know. See, it disinvolves something called the spinal cord of God. And no, I didn't pull that from a sci-fi novel. Apparently, it's this living energy field that tracks everything about you. Oh, wow. Your relationships, your money patterns, even while you keep dating that same lesson in human form over and over again.

0:45 Well, I quit dating him last week. Last week. Okay, the best part is our guest says you can actually read it, kind of like the cosmic Google doc for your soul. And by the time this episode is over, you, dear listener or watcher, might just be tempted to check your own energetic browser history. So yeah, get ready. Because today's conversation is going to be part cosmic therapy, part spiritual tech support and 100% going to mess in the best possible way with how you see yourself. The skeptic manifestation starts now. My name is Will and I'm Garrett and unlike Mulder and Scully, both want to believe. So we've embarked on a journey of discovery.

1:27 We've talked to people deeply entrenched in the spiritual and metaphysical world. We've thrown ourselves into weird and wonderful experiences. I even joined a Covenant Witches. And, wait, you joined a Covenant? Yep, all in the interest of fighting something that will prove that there's something beyond this physical, three-dimensional world we all live in. This is the skeptic metaphysicians. [MUSIC] Hey, there is Will, quick heads up. We've got something special happening right now and we want to invite you to participate. So we just launched a listener survey and this is your chance to help shape the future of the skeptic manifestations seriously.

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2:54 And welcome to an episode of the skeptic metaphysicians that finally answers the question of whether the universe really is watching and can we at least get a copy of the footage? No thank you. That's it, his guess is someone who might just make you rethink everything that you thought you knew about your soul story. She's an internationally recognized teacher and guide in the Akashic records. Basically, she helps people access the energetic database of everything their souls ever experienced. You know that only leads to trouble. She's the founder of the School of Akashic Records, leads retreats around the world and spent over 20 years helping spiritual seekers and conscious leaders turn big mystical concepts into practical tools for everyday clarity and purpose.

3:40 And yep, she is the first person who's ever made me wonder if the universe is tracking me better than my iPhone. Welcome to the show, Heather Ivany. How are you doing today? I'm doing very well. Thanks for having me, lovely to be in your company. Likewise. She says that now. Heather, it's a pleasure to have you on the show. I got to ask right off the bat, when someone says the Akashic records are re-talking cosmic libraries, spiritual mainframe, universe is never in the group chat, what exactly are we talking about here? Yeah, so sort of the stereotype, language that's used is describing the Akashic records as an aesthetic library.

4:20 It's a great way to picture because we learn a lot through visuals. So it gives us a great way to sort of picture what it could be. The reason why I like to bring in other ways to describe it is because a lot of people then start to associate with, if you can't see a library when you're opening up the records, or if you don't view it from the point of view of feeling like you're almost reading someone's book of their life, then a lot of people feel like they're not in connection with it or accessing it. And if you want to stretch it even a little bit further, a lot of people access the Akashic records without any visuals at all, they use other forms of intuitive hits like Claire Sentient, which is the way that we feel.

5:02 Claire Audio is how we hear without actual sounds being around us and also Claire Cognizance, which is the knowing without being taught. So yes, that's one great way to talk about it is a cosmic library, but what I love to do is really bring it down into like practical sort of daily ways that we can work with it, is I really feel heartily that there needs to be more bridges between the cosmic realm and the physical realm because there's so you're either in this group or that group or this camp and the more that we can bridge between the two, it just invites more people in and more depth and understanding with what we're playing with. So if there's so kind of getting back to what it is, if there's so many different ways to experience the Akashic records, how do you know that that's really where you are?

5:50 Right, so I'll back up even a little bit further if you're open to it and so the Akasha is a little bit different than the Akashic records. So Akasha is kind of like the umbrella that arches through everything. So it's like the myofasha of the universe, people call it consciousness, if they're more spiritually connected, you'll call it quantum field if you're more scientifically inclined. So it directly, it's a Sanskrit word Akasha and it directly translates to the word space which we connect to quantum because space is the study of every or quantum physics is the study of everything and space is in everything or spirit which is consciousness.

6:32 So that's the Akasha, that's sort of the life force energy that's in and amongst everything. And Akashic record is the specific divine blueprint of your particular makeup. So people have Akashic records and then animals have Akashic records, plants have Akashic records. So anything that is a conscious breathing organism will have an Akashic record even what we assume is like inanimate such as like rocks and minerals and elements even would have an Akashic record. Good. Yeah, it's very vast but did I answer your question there like a little bit? A little bit but now I have another question and I just forgot my other question.

7:15 Oh my gosh, I started laughing and it's you see the lesson of the story? I have to be serious. Don't laugh. Don't laugh. This is a very serious topic. I remember now. So is it a record of a record I guess in quotes of your experiences, lifetimes, and whatever on earth or every galaxy dimension? Yeah, so it's an energetic imprint. So wherever there is place to imprint it can be there. So if you're open to past lives and yes, it would contain all the information of your past lives. If you're open to experiencing a lifetime outside of the earthly realm then yes it would include that as well.

8:00 So it's every sort of thought, action, behavior has a vibrational frequency to it and it gets imprinted into what we call the Akashic field, the quantum field and then your specific Akashic records. If you think about that, that's a vast amount of information from even like say a year in your life, let alone a lifetime or multiple lifetimes. So when you open up ones Akashic records, there's almost like I picture it as like every one has their own GPS location that the universe locates you from and then from that when you open up someone's records, it's not like you have access to all the things all at once because it would almost just be like the library shelf collapsing on you in a sense.

8:46 So there's almost like I think of it, almost like energetic fields or keepers that will help to distill the information as it's coming down so that it comes down in a way that makes sense in a way that offers support and guidance and then just because we're inquiring doesn't mean we necessarily have access to that information because we're not, you know, we're not commanding consciousness to meet our egoic needs. We're simply seeing if there's information in the field that we can have access to. So we've covered the Akashic records in different other shows before and it's been painfully obvious that my library card is no longer in existence because I can't ever even imagine what this thing could be, but there's still use in the doodessimal system.

9:36 A little little drawer. So I think most of the people that are listening are comfortable with the Akashic record, they are how they work, even if they can't access it. The biggest question mark here is what I tease at the beginning of the show, which was using them to help us to guide, just mention GPS, like so how can someone access this strange, mythical, mystical thing that I can't wrap my head around to help them to make sense of where they've been and where they need to go from there? Because we are a society that relies so heavily on what the mind understands and we use that as sort of the bar as to where we can access information from.

10:30 So if you're going to be accessing information from a space beyond the mind and what it stores is memory and data, then you're going into the intuitive field. So if you're, you know, if the intuitive field, the broad word and languaging for the smaller distilled ways that we communicate, which I shared earlier with the Clare Audio, Clare Cognis and Clare Voice and Clare Sentient, those are the four main clairs that I work with. So it's not so much can you access it or not, because you can't ever not be in it. It is everywhere. So when we're playing with like, I can't get in and I can't get information from that, it's not that you're being denied.

11:14 And a lot of this like when I work with people on how to, you know, teach them how to access their own records or the records of other people, what I thought would be a lot of my time spent working the muscle of the intuitive edge for people. Like so if they feel tingling, how can we tunnel into that further and expand that tingling into a broader range of communication. That's where I thought I would spend a lot of my time when I'm working with people and teaching them how to access or how to work with the Akashic records. But honestly, a lot of what I'm doing is dismantling the way that we limit ourselves through belief systems or fears or doubts, which makes us have the impression of I can't access it.

11:57 I can't get at it. There's nothing that comes in. It's crickets. It's quiet. There's nothing speaking to me. And I would almost push that conversation a little bit and say, okay, is there a place within you that can understand that you can't actually not be participating with it because it's connected. It's a matrix that's connected to everything that's alive, everything that has a consciousness. So if you're living breathing entity, you're in the soup of it whether you like it or not. And so what you're playing with is I actively co-participating with it or subconsciously co-participating with it. And that's where you play with it a bit. So then to lean into your question where you're asking, you know, okay, so how does something so mythical and mystery and of the non-physical realm become practical in the every day?

12:46 Well, where I'd play with that, first of all, is maybe we put things too far on a mystical edge that it becomes non-relatable after time. And so can we take the Akashic records and dismantle some of the mystery around it and make it more practical in the sense of you have five senses. And so those are very dense when they're in your physical form. And when you start to go into, say, meditation or contemplation or even daydreaming can be a gateway in for some people or being in nature, you're going to move from a more dense, felt sense of yourself to a lighter state and your senses go from feeling to clear sentient to be able to feel when nothing is actually touching or taking place to be able to hear when no one's actually speaking.

13:37 And so how that, so that's just the bridge of like, how is this available to everyone because you have senses, you have clairs and because you have clairs, that's the communication hub between the physical and non-physical. How you make it practical is allowing yourself to be open and available to receive the information that is constantly dancing with you on a daily basis, but perhaps were distracted by constantly having a phone or a busy lifestyle or noise around us that we can't hear the subtle information that's coming through. But still then that kind of makes me go back to my first question, how do you know that it's not just something you're thinking, you know, just like popped into your head or that it's something coming from the Akasha.

14:26 Yeah, coming from the field. So that's where you have to, so that's where someone would play with it and work the muscle a little bit. So for sure, I can work with individuals and they can be like, okay, well, M.I. Experiencing this in the Akashic Records order, I watched something on Netflix yesterday that's coming through, that now making me think that I'm actually just repeating something that I watched on TV the night before. So there is this little bit of argument there with like, yes, let's find the distillation between the two. And if everything is communicating all the time, this is where I stretch it a bit, you can't ever decipher what is a part of the field and what is not a part of the field.

15:08 Because it's, so for example, okay, I'll give, I'll give a little bit of a wild example. When I first started off, I had an individual come to me and this isn't how I normally work the records, but they were feeling like there is some sort of a, an entity of some sort that was just kind of giving them a lot of grief and making it challenging for them to see positive, to be able to have light and positive experiences in life. So then I went and worked with my, my teacher before this booking to be like, listen, I've never really worked with this before. I don't know even my own relationship with, say, curses or hexes or things like that. And she gave me some tools to work with when I was in a session with this individual. We went through the entire session, nothing came up at all.

15:51 But then two days later, I had someone who I've known for a decade come in and do a session with me and all of the tools that that teacher was working with me with came in in that session. So everything is sort of setting everything up in a sense that everything can be useful. And so how I play with the Akashic records is, it's inclusive of everything and exclusive of nothing. You can spend a lot of time wondering, well, is this my imagination or is this actual? And this is a lot of the conversation we have on relearning how to read our own records because we're so close to ourselves, we can't see it. But where it starts to become really interesting is in part two when I work with people, that's when you're starting to read the Akashic records for someone else.

16:38 And when we work in those cohorts, you, I mean, you know them a little bit because you've spent a couple days with them in part one when we're learning how to access our own records. But essentially someone in the US is in my group and someone from the UK is in my group and they don't know each other other than just this training that we've come into. And so when they start to read their records and they're sharing things that are coming up through say a knowingness within them and they're sharing it because they have nothing else to go on. It starts to build the confidence in they're like, oh, this is actually how it comes through when I'm in my own records. And I keep getting in the way of myself by thinking it's my imagination and not letting the conscious stream flow.

17:19 So it's like a stop, start, a stop, start, a stop, start when I'm working with myself. When I have ran totally in a blind reading and I know nothing about this individual, the only thing that I can lean into is the way that I'm intuiting what is coming through and sharing it within individual. And then that individual in their own way is going to bounce back and start sharing like yes, that's accurate or yes, that resonates. And then it starts to build the muscle from there. But there will always be the questioning and this is why so many people deny themselves the experience of playing with it because they don't want to come across as being an imposter or that they're being, you know, just creating almost like a movie reel and sharing it with the individual.

18:10 So that boundary or that barometer, that skeptic, it's actually really healthy when we're going through learning how to read the records because it makes us cross check ourselves and makes us see if like is this accurate or is this not accurate? And the making it up energy, it's more dense than the energy that flows through in a current form and that's something that we also play with is like when you're when you're reading the Akashic records for someone right now, do you feel like you're you're listing information that's coming from your cognitive brain from your physical body or does it feel like you're in the lighter energy of your clear cognizance?

18:53 There's so many different nuances and it's very personalized when I work with people to try and tease that out with them to see what what space are they reading it from? So I have a question that occurred to me as you were talking. We've had these conversations for many, many years and some of the some of the lessons that we've learned are they compound on each other so they all kind of touch on each other. So if that's the case, we've learned over the past hour and a half years that time is not linear and the Akashic records from my understanding is a record of everything that has ever happened to a soul or ever will happen to a soul.

19:38 So are we able to access things that to us in 3D linear time are still yet to come? Yes, but I work with it from it's a probable energy, not an absolute. And so yeah, that's a really good point because it's like, oh, it's it's this past life in this past life. So even the conversation that you're sharing there, it's a tight line conversation. And so we language in that way because that's how the brain makes sense and it's able to hold conversation. If we talk in a way that if we talk in a way that doesn't have contrast or doesn't have time and space, then we can't be in conversation in this 3D form. So yes, we talk about past lives and future probabilities, but in the Akashic itself, it's all collapsed into present moment.

20:26 And that's even hard for me to, it's hard to comprehend. It is. But it's like the way that I started to describe it is like, say, for example, in this life time I'm working with financial abundance. I can go into my own Akashic records and see is there a lifetime that I've had that I've been financially abundant? And if I can feel into that lifetime, then in present moment, I'm going to, it's almost like you're dipping into that lifetime. And I want to gather the resources from that lifetime and bring them into this lifetime to help me create more financial abundance. Now we're going to the nittyy. You can do that. How do you do that? Yeah. So that, well, those are, so then you go into someone's Akashic, right?

21:07 And if it's like, there's nothing like you've actually had several lives of being impoverished or you've had several lifetimes that were short or quick or maybe this is only your third round of hanging out on earth. And so there is no past lifetime where you've had financial abundance. So then you can go into the future version of yourself. If you want to play a little bit, the reason why you desire that in present moment is because there's a version of you who's already living out the fulfillment of what it is that you're desiring. And it's almost like a touch back into present moment to be like, hey, this is where it started. This is where you started to change the patterns of how you were living and started to add momentum in the direction of creating abundance.

21:52 And so let's come into, from the future, let's come into the present and give you a few more resources to work with. So then, is it, I guess the Koshak records just rewrites itself as it goes because if it's a probable future, right? Yeah. And everything's already written, I would assume that, I mean, this gets crazy because if there is such a thing as timeline shifting and different dimensions that we're living in and every decision we make branches off into another version of us, that at Koshak records got to be freaking massive, right? But in the future, I guess it just is able to mold itself and rewrite itself to fit the timeline that you're currently on.

22:40 I mean, you're also getting into line-to-ging that's getting a little bit beyond my own expertise of being able to say that with authority. And I also love to live in it. And here's what I've played with, here's what I've experienced, but nothing that I work with is dogmatic because that just goes back into kind of religious conditioning. And not that I do away from quite, quite intentionally. But if I'm doing a session with someone and they want to go into it, like, okay, I'm looking at changing my career right now and I'm wondering if this would be a good avenue for me or if this would be a good avenue. So when we go into future or even a relationship, a lot of people like to go into future relationships, how it makes sense to me when I'm playing with it is that there will be certain lines of energy that have more momentum going in that direction.

23:33 And so that's what's going to come through when you're asking for data and information on it. Now, what I will say is when you are listening to this recording, if you're going to make action six to eight months from now based on what you're hearing today, might be a good idea to check back in and see if that line of energy is still accurate because a lot of it can happen in six to eight months to change that. So there's a lot of conversations I listen to. Is it predestined or do we have choice? And I think it's actually both at once. And it's not a very confirming answer for a lot of people that like the fucker white, but I really do feel like it is both slightly predestined and open to choice.

24:20 So for example, potentially when you choose to come into this lifetime, you choose the country that you move in that you're born into, you choose the parents, you set up eye color, hair color, so many different conditions to your incarnation before you even arrive. And when you're experiencing that incarnation, you have so many different choices that you're taking that that's where the awareness of free will comes in. So yes, it's partly predestined and yes, there's also choice. And I appreciate how frustrating that can sound because it's not actually giving an absolute answer as this is it. Here we are.

25:01 Especially to a pregnant person like me is trying to wrap your head around the concept like this. This has been the most difficult thing about doing this show. So then how can it be helpful? The whole conversation? Well, like tapping into the Akashic record. If they're changing or maybe not changing or you know, like how would that tapping and helping me with my life? We need to take a quick pause, but we'll be right back right after these messages. Karen, yes. We are doing something new coming up. We are doing something new coming up. Yeah, without giving it all away, what exactly do you think we can tease?

25:44 Well, we're talking. We are. That's not nothing new. We talk a lot. Well, that's true. That's true. I don't know. Without giving it away, it's one word, one word. Okay. Go ahead, give it away. Live. We're doing some live shows. We'd love you to be involved with it every second Tuesday of the month. We'll be going live to new reality TV on our YouTube channel on our Facebook page. So if you aren't connected to us through any of those platforms, we strongly urge you to do so because we want you to come and participate in the show. You can ask those questions. It'll be just Karen, are you talking? Every once in a while, we'll bring in a special guest to talk to you guys. You can ask them questions as well. It'll be a lot of fun, very interactive and engaging.

26:24 And so many of you have asked questions on our website. This way you could ask us kind of in person and we could answer them right away. Absolutely. So don't forget, it's every second Tuesday of the month on our YouTube and Facebook pages as well as on new reality TV. We are excited to get to know you more and more. Yes. We do have the opportunity to interact with you. Make sure you're there. And now back to the show. How would that tap and help me with my life? Well so it's so many different ways that we can play with it. So personally, I might disappoint some listeners but I don't actually ask a lot of questions when I go into the Akashic records.

27:10 But the part of me that has to know what's coming and prepare for it, I'm a lot more relaxed of that relationship with myself. So when I'm going into the Akashic records, what I love to do is to experience just different states of consciousness. So I'll go into the Akashic records and I'll ask to have my cup filled for the day, right? How can the light filled energy just come in and how can I be of service to myself and to my vocation in a way that that feels like it's moving beyond my physical conditionings, my human conditionings, right? I might go in and just sit and bask in the Akashic records.

27:52 And sometimes what will come in is something will ping after I've been in the record. So for example, most recently I've sort of reached a point with my work where I feel like I want to be expanding into a different arena rather than the one that I've been playing in up until now. And so I go into the Akashic records and all I'm asking is show me the ways in which I'm supported and the direction that I'm meant to be going at this time. Now it does not when I'm working with myself, it very rarely will come in instantly, like a well, Heather, thanks for asking that question. You're going to go next, right? So it's more like I sit in the frequency of my inquiry and allow myself to be kind of immersed in it and absorbed with it.

28:37 And then what happened was later on that day, I got this ping to be like, hey, remember that corporate option that you had pre-COVID that wasn't open to mental health fitness, they're open now because lots has changed post COVID and go and reach out. So literally sent an email later that day to someone that I emailed six years ago and was like, hey, you guys open for the conversation now. And it was like, absolutely, let's talk. So it's ways like that. It's not always like people really want the direct specific like show me exactly the man that I'm supposed to be marrying in the next six months. And they want these very concrete ways of playing with it.

29:19 I just let it, I let it be more co-participating, co-creating. It's a relational field, which means you have to be in relationship to it. So if I'm going in and every time I'm going in, I'm simply imposing. It's almost like I'm trying to be an authority over rather than to coincide and exist beside. So I will go in and say, hey, I really feel like potentially this relationship is coming to an end. And the response I might get is possibly from your human perspective, but from here, there's still some things that I'm not going to be able to do. That is possibly from your human perspective, but from here, there's still so much that can come from it.

30:06 We're going to ask you to just hang on for a little bit longer and see how you can play with that a bit more. So it's a conversation back and forth, not an authoritative relationship, if that makes sense. You're walking along in your regular life. And all of a sudden, you find yourself able to tap into these records or did you actually work towards, I want to tap into these acoustic records. How did that work for you? No, I wanted nothing to do with the artist. Yeah. So I love working with the energetic realm in a very socially accepted way is like how I've kind of lived up until this point.

30:55 So when I merged into yoga 20 years ago, it was right when yoga studios were starting to become like, you know, the corner, like just right beside the coffee shops on every corner. But just as I was going through the training, it was still like in the oshrams and in like these quiet, secluded places. And literally within like six months of me completing my teacher training, it kind of, that was when yoga was blowing up and it was ever so by the time I moved into it, I was like, yeah, I'm doing yoga and they're like, oh, that's great. So it was always very accepted. People recognized the health benefits of it. I didn't feel like I was out on the fringes or, you know, in an unrelated way of hanging out with people.

31:37 Now, when I moved into the Akashic records, all that I was longing for was a way to be able to connect with people in a deeper, more meaningful way that I was aware that a one-hour yoga class couldn't provide. And even when I did, like I taught a lot of teacher trainings in yoga as well, but there's a lot of curriculum that you have to get through in a teacher training. So it's rigid in a sense. And I was like, I just want a way to be able to have deeper, more meaningful connections with people. And I don't know what that is. And I just let that sit out there this sort of longing. And how the Akashic came to me was when COVID hit my husband's aviation, I'm yoga.

32:19 So both of our industries were shut down instantly and we were home. Our two older daughters were at home school, but our youngest son was still able to go to preschool. So it was kind of the situation where we were all together, but the girls were, you know, learning online. But our son was occupied. And so my husband and I were just given opportunity to be like, it was almost like a privilege in a sense. And I know a lot of people had a challenge at that time for us. I was like, wow, like we just get this time freedom to play with. So I just found myself doing a lot of yoga practices and meditations. And every time I'd sit in meditation, I would just have this little request, like show me how I can go deeper and further.

32:59 And there was three nights in a row where this particular woman's name came to mind. Now I had met her in the summertime. And when I knew her from our family's upbringing, but I hadn't talked to her in like 20 years. And I said, hey, what are you doing? She said, oh, I work the Akashic records. She gave me her card, I touched in my wallet, I didn't even think anything of it. But her name came up three times in a row when I was meditating. And so by the third time I was like, okay, I'm going to reach out. And I sent her an email and said, listen, your name has come up three times. I have no idea what it means. But I do feel like you will when you receive this email. And she wrote back and she was like, well, maybe it's time to book an Akashic reading.

33:41 Are you open to doing that with me? And so that's how it started. I booked a reading with her. She shared that I was using the Akashic records a lot, but not in a conscious way in a very subconscious way. And she's like, if you want, we can bring this more to a conscious level. And I can work with you in that. So I had the time and it wasn't an expensive training. And so I was like, okay, let's do it. And then even when we finished and I was ready to just kind of go and start using it on my own, I said to her, what are we going to call this? There's no one where I live. I live in a small mountain town that's, it's skiing, it's mountain biking, it's fly fishing, it's not the metaphysical at all.

34:21 I was like, nobody's even going to know what this is. Like, how do I work with this and create an income from it? And all she said was, you're going international. And if you don't call it what it is, people aren't going to be able to find you. And it just went from there, but there's even now I've just finished writing a book on like the Akashic records for the modern human. And there's so much in there that I had to work through in my own skepticism with a lot of this because a lot of how I like to live is like, if it's not practical to the everyday why bother? If it's not making this particular life more meaningful, more expressive, what's the point? And so even as a yoga teacher, I would shy away from, you know, those teachers that really live through rose colors, glasses, and, you know, they could travel to amazing states, but couldn't pay utility bill, right?

35:17 Couldn't meet for coffee at the right time because they got it wrong on their calendar. So I've always been interested in the energetic ground, but I've very much done it in a grounded way. And so the Akashic records has to be grounded in the practical. And honestly, the process of learning how to work with the Akashic records is such a tremendous journey to know that itself, to see where you actually have hidden talents and gifts that you didn't even know were available because you couldn't see them or someone shut them down, to see where you hold yourself back, to see where your blind spots are. So really is a continuous journey to really understand and know that I sell.

35:58 Is this another word for psychic abilities? No, I mean, it's a mediumship that they're relatable. So the Akashic records is its own modality. You stay conscious the whole time you're in the Akashic records. Like it almost probably feel like we're having a conversation like we are right now, we were to do a reading together. And some people will use the Akashic records to help open up their mediumship of psychic abilities, but they're separate. They're not like, I don't do any psychic mediumship. And I work with the Akashic records all the time. I just wasn't sure if maybe that is that would the psychic is actually tapping into the Akashic records and don't realize it or, you know, well, if you're using the definition of Akashic as consciousness and or the quantum field, like of course, they're tapping into it because that's, you can't not be tapping into it.

36:56 It's like trying out to breathe air. It's all around you. It's everywhere you can't not breathe air, right? That's what you're designed to do. Yeah, watch me. Akashic breath, breathe air. Let's see. So the Akashic breathes air, but the the psychic don't breathe air. Like it's almost like the rakey, the psychic's, you're all using something from the universal field that you're tapping into, but it's literally like, what are you plugging into? And so the Akashic records is plugging into the vibrational library of someone's soul, a psychic mediumship. I don't fully understand. I haven't like researched enough to know exactly how they would define that. But is it mediumship in the sense that like for me, how I understand mediumship is the bridge between the physical, monon physical?

37:42 So absolutely. That's what the Akash is doing. That's what rakey is doing. That's what psychic work is doing, someone and so forth. So when you have a session with someone and you're tapping into their Akashic records, do you have to go into meditation or is it just like there and you're getting the information? Yeah. So when I first started, I used to spend about 20 to 30 minutes before a session, meditating just with myself to almost prepare myself for the session because the muscle wasn't super strong for me to be able to just flick the switch from, you know, pack on my kids lunch to then going and sitting in my office and doing a session.

38:23 So I needed that buffer between the two to get me out of the density of like my to-do list and into like a more lighter state. But now it can be pretty, pretty quick, but I just personally like to have transitions between whatever I was doing prior to doing something and what I'm doing now. The other thing that that's important is that the person who's doing the reading has to be incredibly skilled at being able to be neutral. So there will be information that comes through and the Heather and me might be like, "Oh, it sounds very like direct and almost like blunt." And then it'll get this push that'll be like, "That's exactly how it needs to be said."

39:04 So keep in mind, when I'm in someone's records, I'm in their vibrational frequency, not mine. So if someone understands best by direct, no nonsense, languaging, then that's how the data is actually going to come through. If someone needs a lot of softness and tiptoeing around it, then that's actually how it gets languaged. If people are like really fast, fast energies, there's sometimes I'm in their field and I'm like almost gasping because I'm talking so fast, like faster than my normal cadence. And sometimes it feels like I'm smoking a joint. And I'm just like, "Oh my gosh, so slow." That's the one I want. Yeah, I'm like, "The glass is moving through here."

39:46 But it's just that everyone has a different frequency, a different energetic pattern. So the neutralness is what's most important because I'm not sure to provide a nice experience. I'm sure to just provide the space for what wants to come through. So I have to make sure my own people pleasing and wanting to be liked energy is really like putting the back seat for the session that I'm doing. Yeah. So you mentioned that the record reflect our soul's evolution, right? So what do they say about the collective transformation? Are we evolving together? Is there something that we need to know that with the Catholic records baiting on your door saying you need to get this out there? You mean like what's my collective message?

40:28 Yeah. Or well, so it's an interesting question because I don't work with the collective a whole lot. I work more with the personal individual. So I don't spend a lot of time. So also like people like, "Who do you mean you haven't gone into the Acacia records on this and you haven't gone into this?" And I'm like, "Okay, we'll also keep in mind I'm a mother of three. I work full time. I need to prioritize my own wellness." So there isn't just this uninterrupted amount of time that I happen a week to just go into all the different experiences that you can do with the Acacia records. I personally never get pulled to spend a lot of time trying to understand what the collective energy is playing with.

41:11 But for example, like I have like an alumni group and we just meet live on sub-stack. And when we were in there this month, what we just went into is I was like, "Let's go into not like the predictions of 2026. Let's go into the felt frequency of 2026." So we just opened up the frequency of 2026. And how we played with it was there was a group of probably 12 individuals. We opened it up as a group so every single person is opening it up at the same time. And I would just give little prompts into the space that they could automatic write. They could make a mental note on all the rest of it. And then once we closed and came into like a Q&A kind of conversation afterwards, that's where I find it fascinating because everyone had a very similar experience of what sort of the 2026 frequency was.

42:03 And what was so interesting was that it was actually very quiet. It was a lot of noise. It felt like it was an elusive energy. It felt like it was still kind of processing what's happened and hadn't quite had a line of direction on exactly what's taking place next. And almost everyone was having this similar experience. So I guess that's as far as I've gone with the collective energy of 2026. That were in a transitional period of still reflecting on where we've gotten up until now and using that as agency as to how we want to step forward. So there's very, it's almost like a pause, like an energetic pause was what I was feeling.

42:46 Now, do I go super far into like, you know, what's happening in the next five to 10 years? It doesn't super turn me on and interest me to go there. So it's either that we're taking a pause or that there is no future. One or the other. (laughs) Both are options. Yeah, oh my God. But like Mr. IT Media Ship would have so much information. Like I still get my astrology emails and, you know, like I love the power path and getting a monthly forecast from them and Mystic Mama. Like these are great, very practical tools that I'll read and listen to. I really love working with the individual with like, what is the patterns that are preventing you from the becoming of yourself?

43:30 What's the patterns that are telling you that you can't behave the way you want to be? And how can we use the Cache of Records help to support that? Your upcoming book says it connects the records with Waters Intelligence. Oh, yeah. How do you see science catching up with what Mystics have known for centuries about the intelligence of Warner? Well, what I'm really enjoying right now, like part of the aliveness of this moment is, you know, science and spirituality were separated hundreds of years ago, more for convenience, right? Like the church is going to take on spirituality and science can take on the material plane, right? So it was more like practicality in how to keep everyone happy.

44:14 What's super interesting is like the quantum field is accelerating to such a degree that it can no longer deny or it's getting to the point where the denial of the non-physical realm can sit in the science space anymore because science will be unable to keep moving forward. So it's almost like what was once separated is now coming full circle and joining back in towards each other. So I find it really interesting and fascinating to be in these little conversations that I'm hearing about how science is talking about how even the black hole, the void space, right, how this was once considered the nothingness and that has no significance is actually the everything, right?

45:01 So remind me again, I think I derailed a little bit from what your original question was, it was about the, oh, the water, right? So water, Veda Austin's work is fascinating. She's a Kiwi and so she does something called crystallography. And so this is similar to the Japanese scientists who was showing how thought can be shown through the crystallization of water. And where she's kind of stretching the conversation a little bit further, which I really find interesting to listen to is like if memory, if water holds memory, right? This is like even those that don't listen to the bigger conversations, you can literally watch frozen on Disney and listen to how Olaf talks about how water holds memory.

45:46 Like it's, it is common conversation. You just have to be in the conversation to see that it's more common than, than if you're hearing it for the first time here. But like water holds memory and water is constantly recycled, right? It goes from vapor and it goes into density and then it goes into liquid and it just is constantly being recycled and it holds memory. So the conversation that she's stretching is can we start to look at water and consciousness as being synonymous because everything that you're encased with has water. Like air has water. You have to drink water in order to survive. Even something that looks like it doesn't have water like mineral actually has water molecules in it and when you want to hear the sound that rock makes, you can hook up instruments that are literally tapping into the water frequency to make the sound that the rocks are emoting and emitting out.

46:44 So that's where I find it really interesting is like water is not a triggering word for a lot of people. But if you want to talk God or spirit or religion or energy, there's usually, you got to use so many different words to make the conversation inclusive because there's so many people that have triggers with different words in that language. But water for the most part is a pretty neutral language. So if you want to open up conversation about water being synonymous with consciousness, I love the freedom that it invites people to come in and talk about. So if you can never separate from spirit, if you can never separate from source, from energy, it's the same with water, you can't separate from it.

47:28 It's in absolutely everything and it holds the memory of everything that was. So essentially how I'm playing with it is like, because I do get curious, like what is actually happening in an Akashic reading? Well, what if the water molecules inside my body are connecting to the water molecules inside your body and they're languaging with each other because they speak the same language? Oh, I like that. Super cool. It's not, right? You can do another way to play with it. Right. Right. Well, is someone wanted to experience the records? Maybe they're still not 100% sure that they believe in it. What's the one simple first step they could take to experience this field for themselves?

48:13 Hmm. Well, I would start by being open to receive, first of all, because you can't absorb anything if you're heart edging against it. To see if you can soften, like for some people it's a physical softening, for some people it's an energetic, some people it's emotional, sometimes it's mental. So what needs to be softened so that I can be open to the conversation of it? And then I would, I would start with playing with like, recalling a moment in life where something took place that you couldn't actually rationally explain it. You were thinking of mom and mom called two minutes later. You had a vision of, I don't know, a job promotion and you got that job promotion the next month.

48:58 Like what is something that's like, it is just so crazy I can't even explain it. Because that is the communicative field. And then if you're like, I'd do it. I just, I never even had that happen before. Well, you can go and see how it takes place in nature. When you watch those swarms of birds be moving in one direction and then instantly they all go in another direction. It's not someone sending a message down the line. I mean, why is it going to laugh? But going right, we're going to take a laugh to you. Like that is an instant in sync intelligence that makes that that that flock of birds go in another pattern. So there's, there's a lot of ways that nature will even emulate that, right? So first it's like, are you even open to it?

49:40 And if you're open to it, what makes you open to it? And then also if you want to go back to my conversation of future sort of pinging, a lot of people that come in and reach out to me, they're like, they're like, I don't even actually know why I'm booking this or why I'm asking questions about it. But I just keep getting this like niggling or tingling that like, there's something more than this physical existence that I'm participating in. And so that's where we just start to play with it. So in order for someone to actually be curious, that curiosity itself has to be coming from something beyond the mind space. Otherwise, they go and read a book on it. Rather than trying to have an experience of it. Absolutely. Yeah.

50:20 Yeah. So then from there, it's just like, okay, so then in the session, I mean, if I'm doing a session with someone, I do my very best to meet the person where they're at. So I mean, if they're going to be talk, if they're more of a meat and potatoes, I'm going to talk in language that's more, you know, easier for them to understand. And if they're more as a tarot, then I'll talk more vegetarian if I want to, right? But I allow myself to have, to create a space where people feel welcome. And I'll be the first to say, like, I don't have all the answers to all the things, but we can have an experience together and you can let me know how it goes. Yeah. Well, if someone wanted to experience that with you, or maybe set up for a wait list for your book or someone willing, wants to connect with you to dive deeper into the topic, what's the best way for someone to do that?

51:08 Yeah. I'd say my website has all the other links to everything else. And if you go to my website, which is just my name, it's Heather Ivany, IVanyy.com, there's lots of free on there. So there's lots of things that you can listen to and check out that are free. You can also subscribe to on sub-stack. And I meet once there for live gathering and that's a minimal payment. But to book a session and to get interest into the next upcoming, a cash training, it's all on my website there. And if you can't find anything you're looking for, then just reach out and email. And I do personally respond to those I don't have an assistant that does that. Okay. We're going to link to your website on our show notes.

51:48 So if you didn't have a pen in that particular point in time, you know, the deal is go to skepticmanivision.com. You can go to her episode page. You'll find a link directly there. So it's easy for you to connect. This has been eye opening in so many different ways. Thank you so much for coming on and sharing your wisdom with us. I am going to reach out because I've asked some questions. Okay. Thanks for having me on and being open to a different conversation. Always, always. All right. It's a pleasure meeting you. We'll talk to you again soon. Take care. I'm just going to take care. Okay. Well, that does it for this episode of the skepticmanivision. Thanks for coming along and his journey beyond the veil. If you're enjoying the ride, don't forget to visit us at skepticmanivision.com to dive even deeper into the world of metaphysics and spiritual awakenings.

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