Breathwork Detox for Spiritual Awakening: 1 Session That Could Change Everything
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What if the most powerful tool for emotional healing, trauma release, and spiritual awakening has been inside you since birth?
 
This week on The Skeptic Metaphysicians, we sit down with Kurtis Lee Thomas, global corporate mindfulness trainer, founder of Breathwork Detox, #1 bestselling author, and the man NASA, Nike, and The Today Show call when their people are breaking down.
 
Kurtis doesn’t preach modern spirituality fluff. He delivers physiological, neurological, and emotional transformation through a deceptively simple modality: breathing. But not the casual inhale-exhale you do every day… We’re talking about a deep diaphragmatic technique capable of:

  • Releasing stored trauma and emotional blockages
  • Triggering profound energy healing
  • Opening intuitive channels
  • Rewiring the nervous system
  • Supporting spiritual growth and consciousness expansion
  • Creating the clarity needed to step into your soul purpose
If that sounds impossible, wait until you hear the stories:
✔ A five-year chronic illness completely resolved in one session
✔ Instant clarity and breakthroughs in people who’ve felt stuck for decades
✔ Engineers, veterans, and skeptics experiencing Kundalini-like activations
✔ A mind-bending account of spontaneous physical healing that you’ll need to hear to believe 

Breathwork Detox isn’t just breathwork, it’s a full-body energetic purge designed to clear the emotional “weight” you’ve been carrying your entire life.
 
Whether you’re navigating your own awakening, seeking deeper consciousness, exploring intuition development, or simply trying to stop your stress from running your life, this conversation will reset your understanding of what healing can look like.

IN THIS EPISODE:
• Why most people breathe incorrectly, and how it blocks emotional & energetic flow
• How unprocessed experiences lodge in the body and manifest as anxiety, illness, and stuckness
• The exact 3-part breathing sequence used in Breathwork Detox
• The science behind clarity, flow state, and shutting down the overactive mind
• How breathwork triggers profound spiritual awakening experiences, even in total skeptics
• Why clarity (not bliss) is the real engine of manifestation
• The four types of people who benefit the MOST from this practice
• Why energy healing works even for people who don’t “believe” in it
• How breathwork can support emotional transitions, hormonal shifts, and the stress of modern life

WHY THIS EPISODE MATTERS
If you feel overwhelmed… foggy… disconnected… stuck in old patterns… or blocked from the spiritual growth you know is possible, then you’re likely carrying far more emotional residue than you realize.
You don’t need a guru. You don’t need a plant medicine ceremony. You don’t need a near-death experience to wake up.
 
You need to clear what’s standing between you and the truth already inside you.
And this modality gives you the key.

ABOUT OUR GUEST — KURTIS LEE THOMAS
  • Founder of Breathwork Detox
  • Corporate mindfulness trainer for Nike, NASA, and Fortune 500 companies
  • #1 international bestselling author
  • Board Chair of the Just Breathe Foundation
  • Global teacher helping thousands detox emotional blockages, trauma, and mental overwhelm
CONNECT WITH KURTIS
Website: BreathworkDetox.com
Free masterclass, virtual sessions, facilitator training & more inside.

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Karen, Yes, I've got a quick question for you.

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I've got a quick answer.

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I doubt it.

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When you hear the words breath work, yes, do you

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picture something like profound and transformational or do you picture

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a group of adults huffing like they're trying to blow

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up an air mattress before passing.

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That today, do you know how I do my breathwork?

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To the point that today's guest has built an entire

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life calling us out for it.

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Oh.

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His name is Curtis Lee Thomas, and he claims he

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can help us detox our anxiety, our trauma, our emotional baggage,

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and probably whatever's been living rent free in our heads

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since middle school using nothing but breathing.

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That would be very.

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Helpful, alsolutely, Now, before you roll your eyes, Karen, and yes,

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I saw that this guy didn't just do the YouTube

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yoga guru thing. He's the guy that companies like NASA

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the guy that the Today Show puts on when America's

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stress levels are melting the grid. This is the guy

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who literally turned take a Breath into a global mental

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health movement. So today we're about to find out if

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breath where detox is transformational healing or just really expensive hyperenilating.

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But he the way, we're breathing through it together, so

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let's see what happens. Welcome to the Skeptic Metaphysicians. My

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Witches and wait, you joined a coven?

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Three dimensional world we all live in.

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This is the Skeptic Metaphysicians. Yes, hey, there's Will just

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interview long enough, so let's get too it. Thanks for listening. There,

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I'm Will and I'm welcome back to an oxygen stealing,

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nervous system rewiring, trauma detoxifying episode of The Skeptic of Physicians.

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Today we welcome Curtis Lee Thomas, the founder of the

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fast rising modality Breathwork detox, corporate mindfulness trainer, chair of

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the Just Breathe Foundation, and number one international best selling

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author of the World Is Yours, The Secrets behind the

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Secret and how to thrive in the Age of anxiety.

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giants like Nike and NASA, and guided thousands through a

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your casual sit and breathe segment. Curtis is here to

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show us how to actually detox our mental wiring fast

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and rise into aligned, awakened living. Please welcome Curtis Lee

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Thomas to the show. Curtis is such a pleasure to

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have you here with us today.

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All right, thank you for having me. Appreciate it.

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Yeah, so, bat, I gotta just let you and the

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entire audience know I am battling about of bronchitis. So

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never know, right, So let's just get right down to her. Curtis,

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how is it possible. It's just breathing can do all

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it's just the cosmic giggle that the Kingdom of Heaven

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and then I found this one ancient breathing technique. I

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stomach condition. One session. Yeah, wow, And I can explain

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why that is, which I didn't find out the act,

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of people actually do carry emotions in their stomach, and

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breathing technique completely opened up my diaphragm and was able

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my IQ went up, I didn't realize, you know how

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dumb I was during this. You know, I was like

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I can say is like I'm back online.

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All right, So this is not the best audience. Well, no,

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it is, okay. So hot topic these days, at least

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for me and for my peers is menopause and we

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have all of these crazy physical side effects and emotional

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side effects because of our estrogen. It's your hormones get depleted,

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but we store a lot of that in the fat

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and our hips. So is doing this technique something that

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could help with those symptoms or those side effects that

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triggered man, like the hips.

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where it came from, what traumat was. When we store

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energy in certain places, you know, it does a few things.

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you know, the soul always wants to be present, and

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the mind always wants to think into the future, but

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the body holds onto the past. The body is a

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living library of all of our past experiences, which is

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why they say the body keeps score. So we'll accumulate

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these things until we're taught how to let them go.

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generation is that we're taught so well to consume, consume, consume, consume,

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But what about release, let go? And what I realized

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from writing my first book on manifesting in the Laws

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of the Universe and Larb of Attraction, is that the

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most powerful exercise for manifesting is actually letting go, because

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you have to let go before you let in, and

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we are spiritually constipated with all these things from past breakups,

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childhood we didn't have the emotional intelligence to process getting

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businesses and bankruptcy and kids and like, it just keeps

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stuff if the mind doesn't know how to process it,

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and that's when it accumulates. Now it has nothing to

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do with weight, because sometimes the weight you need to

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lose isn't on your physical body. You know, you can't

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really you know, feel it, but you do feel it

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when you release it and let go, because sometimes it's

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not the weight of the baggage, it's how you carry it.

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The issue is as men, we learn to carry it

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we need to be masculine. And women learn to carry

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it well because they need to be mama bears. They

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need to take care of the kids. And a lot

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of women are doing that and still in jobs and

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still all doing all these things. So it's so much

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pressure to show up where we don't really look in

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and see what is the stuff I'm holding on too

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and not letting go of, you know, until you release it.

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That's when you know you're carrying it.

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So you're like a cosmic xlax is what you're saying.

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Wow, I like that.

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That's a T shirt.

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All right.

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So I'm hearing everything you're saying and it sounds amazing.

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But Curtis, I breathe all the time. I do it

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all the time.

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I mean not all the time sleep except when I'm.

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Sleeping, but other than that, I sleep, I sleep. I

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as Freudian slipped there. I breathe all the time, and

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my problems are still not going away. So you're not

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doing it right, right, So so this is going to

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be a specific type of breath work that allows you

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to clear all this stuff. Like what makes this different?

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Well, you're right, and that's why nobody believes me when

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I say breathe this, try this technique. It's going to

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change your life. They're like, what do you mean? That's

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like saying, you know, hey, come take a walk with me.

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This walk is going to be life changing, right, it's

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so hard. But trying to describe what this particular technique

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can do is like trying to describe a kaleidoscope to

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a blind person. Right, It's impossible. It's it can It's

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something that can only be experienced, not explained. So that's

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why people need to go through experience. Now to answer

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your question, Yeah, I get it. We've all been breathing

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all along. So when you tell someone to do something,

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they're already doing. Well, how is this thing I'm already

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doing going to change you know my situation? It's the technique, right,

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it's it's it's it's how you do it, how long

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you do it. And I will say this first of all,

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breathwork is an umbrella term, just like yoga, many forms

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of yoga, y in yoga, fire yoga, kundalini yoga. There's

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many forms of breathing and different techniques. Now, the one

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that I specialize in is deep, direfragmatic breathwork, which is

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breathwork detox right, all about detoxing, and that is done

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through the mouth, in through the mouth, out through the mouth.

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the time we should be breathing through our nose. We

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shouldn't be breathing through our mouth. However, you cannot achieve

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what we achieve by nose breathing. Look at the mouth

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as a as a an energetic exodus portal where you release.

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That is the body's natural way to release. It's not

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through the nose. So if you pay attention to the bodies,

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when the body, let's say, gets pent up with stress, emotion, pain,

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the body will go like this. It'll build, they'll build,

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they'll build and build, and then the pressure release valve

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is this ah, it's a I of relief. It's the

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body relieving itself of pent up stress, and it does

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it through the mouth. It doesn't do it through the nose.

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consciously do this exercise of mouth breathing deep into the

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diaphragm and releasing, you not just release pent up stress,

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but then as you keep going, you release storage stress

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and storage trauma and unresolved the motions. You start going

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down the layers, which is why I don't know. I'd

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say about at least fifty to sixty percent of all

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the people who do this technique and go through this experience,

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have cathartic releases and end up crying. And it doesn't

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matter who who it is. I've done this for the

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most masculine men on the planet, war veterans, Navy seals,

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NFL athletes, you name it, prison inmates, and they all release,

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they all cry, they all purge in some way, shape

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or form.

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Wow. Wow, is this when you're going through this experience

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really with these people or with the client? Is it

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something that they have to do for hours or do

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you have to practice doing it? Is it? Is it difficult?

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when people always ask me, like how long are we

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going to do this for? And I always say it's

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going to be over before you know it, because I

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don't want the conscience by getting involved. But typically it's

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around twenty eight minutes of breathwork. So you're doing this

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technique for twenty eight minutes and you're literally going through

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all different trance states and you're going through this beautiful journey,

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and you know, after twenty eight minutes, then we go

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into rest relaxation, and then we go into integration, and

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then we go into grounding. So it is an experience.

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every new moon, every full moon, so exactly two weeks apart.

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first twenty minutes of orientation, which is probably the most important.

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The techniques so simple, but if you don't understand what's

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going to happen in this process, you will sabotage your

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experience because the body's going to start doing some things.

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these are the things is going to happen, just so

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it doesn't freak you out. You know, people get numbness

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and tingling and technany and like all these things. And

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you know, once they were we remove those triggers, then

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they're allow themselves to surrender to the experience and have

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a you know, a full on, you know session.

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So this is not like Windhoff, right, This is very

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different than the wind Haff breathing.

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Method or whatever.

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you know, diaphragm and in their respiratory system, they could

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make themselves ventilate. But with our technique, what we do

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is we make sure that they're breathing deep down into

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the belly first before breathing into the chest. And what

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that does is it offsets the stress trigger that would

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cause the hyperventilation. So when you're actually breathing deep down

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into the belly into the chest, you're stimulating that vagus nerve,

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which will calm you. Even though the purpose of this

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isn't to bring to do it in parasympathetic, we're actually

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going into the sympathetic nervous system because that's where all

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the stored stresses, the traumas and whatnot. And we want

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to go into that sympathetic nervous system, clear all the

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junk out, and then once we exhaust that sympathetic nervous system,

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the body boop goes right into parasympathetic. And why people

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feel so calm and rested and at peace.

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Now, I know that you've done ayahuasca trips and things

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like that, So the types of questions I'm about to

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ask you probably are going to throw you. Most of

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the people who listen to our show, or you know

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what kind of questions I'm gonna be asking. There was

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a we tried a type of breath work while back,

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we had them on the show. Karen did it with them,

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and she had an incredible experience, to the point where

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she actually saw herself above her body. These types of

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this type of breath work a top on top of

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detoxing physical ailments and things like emotional ailments. Is this

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possible to use for some sort of spiritual awakening?

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Also?

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Is it really specifically for healing as a healing with Dowling.

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enough to hear so many stories. You know, I've done

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this for tens of thousands of people in twenty seven countries,

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and virtual really allowed us to blow that up. And

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I can't tell you the amount of stories that I've

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heard of spiritual awakenings and Kundalini awakenings, and you know,

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and when I do physical events, you know, I can

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see that people having Kundalini experiences right there, their heads

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will go up like this, and it's it's move and

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energy and their spine. They start making these like weird

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movements and their Kundlini movements. It's the body, the Kundalini

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energy moving the body and these certain moments and these

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certain movements sorry to move out blockages. And you know,

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some people become who aren't even spiritual at all. That's like,

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I've done this for engineers, rocket scientists like and then

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you see their kunin and they're like, what is going on?

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They're like I like it, you know, so you know,

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and then all of a sudden, someone who's completely closed

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off from that spiritual world, they become, you know, Claire sentient,

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Claire audience clairvoyant, you know, Claire cognizant, and they're getting

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messages that's coming in, they're having visions and you know,

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they don't they're not those type of people, and it

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makes them become believers. Sometimes it triggers their own spiritual awakening.

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And what I love is just triggering their curiosity to

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go down a rabbit hole. I don't care which one

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it is, just just go down some because it's going

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to lead you to some more. So Yeah, the answer is yes, man,

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I've seen some what people would call miracles. I stopped

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calling America because I've seen so many, like instantaneous healings

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and some pretty cool stories around that too, Okay, So.

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You know, I gotta trush you, pruss you on those stories.

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What kind of results have you seen? Like, what's the

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thing that has happened that has blown your mind the most?

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That takes a lot, but I will say one that

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the one. Yeah, there is one that I was like,

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whoa that? Now that I'm gonna remember that one forever.

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So there was this couple that came to an event

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I was in Rhode Island and one person, this is typical,

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dragged the other friend there. Now they're both going through things,

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but they're not communicating, and one of the girls actually

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got diagnosed with cancer, some sort of tumor, cancerous tumor,

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and she didn't tell a soul and she was keeping

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it in because she didn't want people to feel sorry

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for her. So she just was going through the journey

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by herself and her friend who was also in the breathwork.

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When there, when they're doing the active breathwork, all of

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a sudden, her friend a guy visits her. Now, mind you,

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she's not clairvoyant or any of that stuff. She sees

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a male figure and she's like, you know, who the

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heck are you? Like this is a telepathic communication and

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she's saying, you know, this is my daughter and she

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is struggling with cancer and she's not telling anybody. And

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the girl's like, oh my god, like this is this

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really is real? Is this happening? And then she's like

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and he's like yeah, and she's like, oh, you can

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hear me. He's like she's like, he's like yeah. He's like,

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oh my god. She's like, but don't worry, she's going

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to be okay, just watch and you'll see. And then

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he went away. So anyways, the other girls sitting there

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and her message is I need to tell someone about this.

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I can't go through this alone anymore. So anyways, they

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come out of the session and they're both like, I

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got to tell you something. The other one's like, no,

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I got to tell you something. No, I got to

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tell you something. And they're going back and forth, okay,

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and one girl's like, I have cancer and the other

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girl's like yeah no, she's like, no, you don't. I

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didn't tell no one. What are you talking about. She's

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like no, no, no, I know. She's like, some guy just

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came to me and said that it was your father

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and he told me that you have cancer. And she's

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like what. She starts breaking down crying. She's like, my

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dad passed away, you know whatever, a couple of months ago,

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and blah blah blah. He said, yeah, but it's okay.

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He said that you're gonna be fine, just watch and see.

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hugging each other. Anyways, the girl goes back home that

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night and I don't know how this happened, but her

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tumor ended up in the toilet and she healed and

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no longer has cancer or any kid out of here.

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That story was probably the one that I was like,

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because this is just so many parts to it, and

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I think that's one of my favorite.

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Wow, gosh, so many different directions to go into. You

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got a question I do. I'm hogging a conversation here.

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You are, so you have in a someone will go and,

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like the thing in Rhode Island, they have this experience

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with you after that when they go home, is it

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safe to practice the US on your own or do

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you need someone there to help guide you through the experience.

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I'll say this with breathwork. We're just breathing.

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M That's what I was saying.

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It's just breathing. Yeah, it is just breathing. You know,

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no one has died from breathing, but there's been a

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lot of people who have died from not breathing.

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And in fact, I would say everyone who died is

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not breathing.

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Yeah, yeah, exactly. Now there's people who have, like, you know,

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who should be more cautionous. You know, if you just

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had a heart attack or your heart surgery or epilepsy

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and things like that, could that can trigger episodes, That's

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the only thing. But I've done this so many people

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and I've seen it happen very little to none. You know,

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it's I've seen some things, but people who really know

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their medical history and know that they have you know,

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could trigger light. A light a bright light can trigger it,

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you know. So there's things like that you always have

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to be cautious of. But at the end of the day,

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we are just breathing. So can people do it at home? Yeah? Absolutely,

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Because this isn't like magic mushrooms or you know, DMT

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or things like that, where you take those and like

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you're on that journey and you're not getting off that

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journey until it's done. With this technique, is you're in control.

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You know, you can speed up your rocket ship and

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go out as far into the cosmos and out of

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your body as you want, or you can breathe low

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and slow and kind of keep everything contained. But when

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people do sessions with me, you know, I push them

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a little past their comfort zone because it's past their

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comfort zone is where all the magic is. That's what

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the breakthrough is, because I say, hey, listen, if you

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want to have a breakthrough, you got to break through.

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You got to push through your zone into that other side.

446
00:23:42.640 --> 00:23:45.599
And on the other side of fear is the answers

447
00:23:45.599 --> 00:23:46.200
you've been seeking.

448
00:23:46.400 --> 00:23:48.920
It's not an ease through to break through.

449
00:23:51.640 --> 00:23:52.200
To clever.

450
00:23:52.319 --> 00:23:52.839
Oh thank you.

451
00:23:54.519 --> 00:23:58.000
So how did you come to discover this?

452
00:23:59.440 --> 00:24:02.279
So it's when I was going through you know, all

453
00:24:02.319 --> 00:24:04.960
those things with my stomach, and it was actually through.

454
00:24:05.640 --> 00:24:07.720
It's interesting because I was in like Tibet, and I

455
00:24:07.759 --> 00:24:10.400
was in like Egypt and like all these like cool places,

456
00:24:10.400 --> 00:24:12.799
and you know, I remember traveling up you know, three

457
00:24:12.880 --> 00:24:15.759
hours up this mountain and talking to monks and caves

458
00:24:15.799 --> 00:24:20.000
and and whatnot. And when I went back to California.

459
00:24:20.160 --> 00:24:23.960
Is actually my massage therapist who who told me about breathwork.

460
00:24:24.000 --> 00:24:26.519
I'm like, man, I've met all over the world searching

461
00:24:26.599 --> 00:24:29.119
for grus and lots.

462
00:24:29.359 --> 00:24:29.519
You know.

463
00:24:30.319 --> 00:24:32.559
Yeah, she put she put me on and I that's

464
00:24:32.559 --> 00:24:35.000
where I had my first, uh my first session.

465
00:24:35.079 --> 00:24:38.799
Now you've taken what this this detox, but these breathing

466
00:24:38.839 --> 00:24:40.720
technique and you have apply because I know that you

467
00:24:40.759 --> 00:24:44.240
are a reiki master. I know that you have done

468
00:24:44.279 --> 00:24:47.279
all kinds of trip or journeys. I know that you

469
00:24:47.319 --> 00:24:50.720
bring in biochemical science, like a lot of things into

470
00:24:51.319 --> 00:24:56.920
to create this technique that you do. What how long

471
00:24:56.960 --> 00:24:58.839
did it take you to put it together first of all?

472
00:24:58.880 --> 00:25:02.359
And then what what give you the motivation to bring

473
00:25:02.400 --> 00:25:05.359
it all together into the technique that you know now

474
00:25:05.480 --> 00:25:07.440
is breathwork detoks.

475
00:25:07.799 --> 00:25:09.640
Yeah, I felt like it was already being mapped out

476
00:25:09.680 --> 00:25:12.839
for me. I just didn't know because it started in

477
00:25:12.880 --> 00:25:16.160
twenty eleven and that's when I started really collecting the

478
00:25:16.240 --> 00:25:20.279
data of becoming certified life coach, hip the therapist, an

479
00:25:20.440 --> 00:25:24.279
LP practitioner, a reiki master, sports science fitness professional, literally

480
00:25:24.319 --> 00:25:27.640
collecting these pieces of paper. And it wasn't until I

481
00:25:27.759 --> 00:25:30.599
found breath work where I was like, oh my god.

482
00:25:30.680 --> 00:25:33.400
It was like eureka. I realized I was like, Wow,

483
00:25:33.559 --> 00:25:37.839
this is the only vehicle that can house all of

484
00:25:37.880 --> 00:25:44.039
my other experiences, skill sets, and certifications into one streamlined

485
00:25:44.119 --> 00:25:47.279
modality where I was able to synthesize all these other

486
00:25:47.319 --> 00:25:50.359
things into something that was so simple and so yet

487
00:25:50.440 --> 00:25:53.400
so profound, where I could take all this like, you know,

488
00:25:53.440 --> 00:25:55.200
some of that stuff's a little woo wu, some of

489
00:25:55.240 --> 00:25:58.839
it's a little taboo, and go into companies like Nike

490
00:25:58.960 --> 00:26:01.839
and NASA. I'd be like, hey, just breathing. But really,

491
00:26:01.960 --> 00:26:05.279
you know, it's like this concoction of like spirituality and

492
00:26:05.319 --> 00:26:08.440
a trojan horse, And that's why I love what I do.

493
00:26:09.079 --> 00:26:11.519
And you know, I just put everything in the breathwork

494
00:26:11.559 --> 00:26:13.359
Detox and I'm like, I feel like this is going

495
00:26:13.440 --> 00:26:17.839
to be the most easy to translate meaning like not

496
00:26:17.960 --> 00:26:20.480
translate into fact, like this breathing is going to change

497
00:26:20.480 --> 00:26:22.839
your life, because that's hard, But it'd be the easiest

498
00:26:22.839 --> 00:26:25.720
to get somebody to try it because it's something they're

499
00:26:25.759 --> 00:26:27.160
already they've already been doing.

500
00:26:27.279 --> 00:26:30.640
That makes sense, right, Yeah, So pass like NASA and

501
00:26:30.880 --> 00:26:33.599
Nike and the Today Show all these kinds of things.

502
00:26:35.279 --> 00:26:38.480
These aren't really spiritual retweets, right, These are Fortune five

503
00:26:38.519 --> 00:26:42.079
hundred companies. These are these are organizations.

504
00:26:41.240 --> 00:26:43.400
That as mainstream as you get.

505
00:26:43.359 --> 00:26:48.240
The mainstream is scientific, right, it's how did you what

506
00:26:48.400 --> 00:26:51.079
happened inside them that made you reach out to you

507
00:26:51.160 --> 00:26:55.880
and say, Okay, Curtis, what do you got? We need

508
00:26:55.880 --> 00:26:57.759
to take a quick pause, but we'ld be right back

509
00:26:57.839 --> 00:27:03.519
right after these messages and now back to the show

510
00:27:04.519 --> 00:27:07.000
what happened inside them that made you reach out to

511
00:27:07.240 --> 00:27:10.200
you and say, okay, Curtis, what do you got?

512
00:27:10.880 --> 00:27:15.039
Yeah, So the Nike one, there was actually a lady

513
00:27:15.799 --> 00:27:18.119
in one of my teacher trainings. So at one point

514
00:27:18.160 --> 00:27:21.079
I decided to stop doing one on ones and just

515
00:27:21.160 --> 00:27:24.519
switched to virtual and then started training teachers in the

516
00:27:24.519 --> 00:27:27.680
breathwork detox modality so they can create careers out of

517
00:27:27.680 --> 00:27:30.200
it or just learn it and bring it to their community.

518
00:27:30.880 --> 00:27:33.000
And I was doing a teacher training retreat and there

519
00:27:33.039 --> 00:27:35.680
was a lady in there who came up after the

520
00:27:35.680 --> 00:27:37.920
retreat was over and she's like, Hey, I would really

521
00:27:37.960 --> 00:27:40.519
love for you to come in my company and bring

522
00:27:40.559 --> 00:27:42.799
this to my employees. She said, we have a pretty

523
00:27:42.799 --> 00:27:45.039
big company. I was like, okay, yeah, cool, I'd love

524
00:27:45.079 --> 00:27:48.200
to what's your company? She's like Nike, And I was like, oh,

525
00:27:48.240 --> 00:27:52.920
I think I heard of them. Curtis, just do it. Yeah.

526
00:27:53.000 --> 00:27:56.480
So yeah, we made it happen, and you know, the

527
00:27:56.519 --> 00:27:59.079
first event was like, you know, close to five hundred

528
00:27:59.079 --> 00:28:02.799
people and it was one of their most successful mindfulness events.

529
00:28:02.799 --> 00:28:05.079
We did a case study, We published a case study

530
00:28:05.119 --> 00:28:08.880
in both Bloomberg and Business Insider, and then once that

531
00:28:08.920 --> 00:28:11.039
got out, you know, it was really easy to get

532
00:28:11.079 --> 00:28:12.519
all the all the other ones.

533
00:28:12.640 --> 00:28:19.279
Sure, yeah, okay, so I'm curious. Obviously I can't do

534
00:28:19.400 --> 00:28:21.599
anything because if I breathe too hard, I'm going to

535
00:28:21.759 --> 00:28:23.279
have a coffee fit for an hour and a half.

536
00:28:23.839 --> 00:28:26.359
But is this something that you could show give you

537
00:28:26.519 --> 00:28:29.960
an idea of what a breathing technique would would feel

538
00:28:30.000 --> 00:28:30.680
like or look like.

539
00:28:31.640 --> 00:28:33.680
Yeah, so it's based off let's say the side like

540
00:28:33.720 --> 00:28:37.400
we showed earlier, right that that energetic exodus. You know,

541
00:28:38.079 --> 00:28:40.440
but if I was just show you the technique, it'd

542
00:28:40.480 --> 00:28:43.480
be a three part breath two pre two breaths in,

543
00:28:43.559 --> 00:28:46.599
one breath out. So what I do is I have

544
00:28:46.640 --> 00:28:50.240
people lighting on their back and they have put one

545
00:28:50.240 --> 00:28:52.920
hand on their belly and the other hand on their chest.

546
00:28:53.039 --> 00:28:54.599
These are the two areas that they're going to be

547
00:28:54.640 --> 00:28:57.640
breathing into. Our first breath right now, here's the thing.

548
00:28:57.640 --> 00:28:59.920
You want your mouth open wider than what feels comfortable.

549
00:29:00.039 --> 00:29:02.200
So I say, hey, take your two knuckles. I put

550
00:29:02.200 --> 00:29:03.960
them in your mouth. This is not COVID friendly. You

551
00:29:03.960 --> 00:29:06.759
can put them in your right and then you let go.

552
00:29:08.000 --> 00:29:09.559
And that's how wid do you want it? Right? You

553
00:29:09.559 --> 00:29:13.119
don't want to be doing it with dose. That's like,

554
00:29:13.160 --> 00:29:16.160
you want that because that's going to make the perfect

555
00:29:16.160 --> 00:29:19.720
earway for the amount of kind of CO two and

556
00:29:19.799 --> 00:29:22.519
oxygen going in. And now, so you do your first

557
00:29:22.519 --> 00:29:24.680
breath about eighty percent in the belly right, so you

558
00:29:24.680 --> 00:29:27.359
can't see me right now, but if I go that

559
00:29:27.519 --> 00:29:29.920
all went into my belly, I already felt the energy move.

560
00:29:30.240 --> 00:29:31.880
And then now I fill it up twenty percent in

561
00:29:31.920 --> 00:29:34.839
my chest. Now I'm completely filled. And then the third

562
00:29:34.839 --> 00:29:38.480
step is you let it go. Now you don't hold

563
00:29:38.519 --> 00:29:41.079
on to it. You don't want to hold onto anything.

564
00:29:41.519 --> 00:29:44.359
And I tell people, when they release that breath, release

565
00:29:44.400 --> 00:29:47.880
something else along with it that doesn't serve you. And

566
00:29:48.039 --> 00:29:50.319
you know you mastered the technique because even like the XAL,

567
00:29:50.400 --> 00:29:51.799
I'll see people like hold it on to it or

568
00:29:51.839 --> 00:29:53.640
pushing it out, and I'm like, hey, just think of

569
00:29:53.640 --> 00:29:56.160
it as a bow and arrow. Right. You take that

570
00:29:56.440 --> 00:29:58.400
arrow in the bow, right, and let's just say you go,

571
00:30:00.079 --> 00:30:02.960
it's time to shoot that arrow. Do you push the

572
00:30:03.039 --> 00:30:05.960
arrow out? No? No, let it go exactly if you

573
00:30:05.960 --> 00:30:09.680
pulled it back enough. All you gotta do is so

574
00:30:09.720 --> 00:30:11.759
the exhale is a release.

575
00:30:12.079 --> 00:30:13.119
So you're not pushing it out.

576
00:30:13.400 --> 00:30:14.720
You're not pushing it out, and as soon as you

577
00:30:14.799 --> 00:30:17.440
hit to the bottom of that release, you immediately go

578
00:30:17.519 --> 00:30:20.119
into the next inhale. There's no rest, there's no pause,

579
00:30:20.200 --> 00:30:22.799
there's no hesitation in between the breaths. And then what

580
00:30:22.799 --> 00:30:26.119
you're doing is you're flooding the body with oxygen, with energy,

581
00:30:26.240 --> 00:30:29.079
with life force, God energy, which is the breath, right,

582
00:30:29.559 --> 00:30:33.359
and you're building up for a big release towards the end.

583
00:30:33.559 --> 00:30:35.880
And I just walked them through the entire experience.

584
00:30:36.000 --> 00:30:37.920
Gotcha, Wow, that's very cool.

585
00:30:38.000 --> 00:30:38.200
Yeah.

586
00:30:38.240 --> 00:30:41.480
It reminds me of when you're like sobbing, you're crying

587
00:30:41.519 --> 00:30:46.559
so hard, you know, like your body automatically does that.

588
00:30:47.839 --> 00:30:49.599
It makes sense. It sounds like our body has their

589
00:30:49.640 --> 00:30:53.759
own as its own intelligence that knows before west to it.

590
00:30:53.680 --> 00:30:54.359
We do need to this.

591
00:30:56.839 --> 00:30:59.720
So it's then you do that for an extended period

592
00:30:59.720 --> 00:31:02.880
of time, which then sends you on the trip. It's

593
00:31:03.079 --> 00:31:08.559
pretty easy to say that if everyone did this on

594
00:31:08.599 --> 00:31:11.759
a regular basis, the world would be a much better place.

595
00:31:13.039 --> 00:31:16.599
So then why aren't people aware of it or doing

596
00:31:16.640 --> 00:31:17.920
it more than they are?

597
00:31:18.640 --> 00:31:19.359
That's what I was.

598
00:31:19.319 --> 00:31:21.720
Saying, Well, that's what he's here for.

599
00:31:22.720 --> 00:31:26.079
No, listen, this is the part that blew me away.

600
00:31:26.240 --> 00:31:30.000
It's like one of those situations like when you have

601
00:31:30.000 --> 00:31:32.640
a good idea and you're like, oh, this idea is

602
00:31:32.680 --> 00:31:34.680
so good, like somebody had to have come up with

603
00:31:34.720 --> 00:31:37.279
it before, right, and then you don't do anything about it.

604
00:31:37.319 --> 00:31:39.119
And then five years later you see someone else come

605
00:31:39.160 --> 00:31:40.680
up with it and you're like, well, you know, no

606
00:31:40.720 --> 00:31:43.319
one did come up with the idea. And but you

607
00:31:43.359 --> 00:31:47.319
know this has been around before spirituality. You know, this

608
00:31:47.440 --> 00:31:52.480
breath this is very very ancient. So when so I

609
00:31:52.519 --> 00:31:55.559
couldn't understand, like who else knows this exists? And as

610
00:31:55.559 --> 00:31:57.759
I started to talk to people, mind you, I'm in

611
00:31:57.839 --> 00:32:01.559
Los Angeles, and I started you know, there's everyone's a

612
00:32:01.640 --> 00:32:05.480
yoga teacher. So I talked to yogi's and they're like,

613
00:32:05.559 --> 00:32:07.519
I'm like, hey, I want you to try this breathing

614
00:32:07.599 --> 00:32:10.279
technique with me that I found and like, oh, I've

615
00:32:10.319 --> 00:32:13.480
been doing Pranayama for twenty years and I've try you know,

616
00:32:13.480 --> 00:32:16.799
I studied in Rishi cash with this guru and this,

617
00:32:16.880 --> 00:32:18.759
and then you know, I've got so many those people.

618
00:32:18.759 --> 00:32:20.920
I was like, just just try it. And then I

619
00:32:20.960 --> 00:32:24.640
show them and they're like, oh my god, I didn't

620
00:32:24.640 --> 00:32:27.680
even know that existed, Holy crap. And then I just

621
00:32:27.720 --> 00:32:30.400
kept doing so many until the yoga teacher started saying, hey,

622
00:32:30.400 --> 00:32:32.599
can you teach me this? Can you can you train

623
00:32:32.680 --> 00:32:35.599
me in this? That's when I started teacher training. And

624
00:32:35.640 --> 00:32:37.880
then I had a really interesting experience. We had a

625
00:32:37.920 --> 00:32:40.680
cool breathwork at this guy's house. I don't know, it

626
00:32:40.720 --> 00:32:43.880
was like Robert Downey Junior's house. It wasn't his, he

627
00:32:43.920 --> 00:32:46.480
wasn't there, but it was his house and it's good

628
00:32:46.559 --> 00:32:48.160
enough for me. Yeah. Yeah.

629
00:32:48.240 --> 00:32:49.039
It was in the hills.

630
00:32:49.400 --> 00:32:52.599
It was really really cool, and there was a gentleman

631
00:32:52.640 --> 00:32:58.759
there by, doctor Jack Feldman, who is a neuroscientist specializing

632
00:32:58.799 --> 00:33:02.000
in breath work, and he's there. He's an older gentleman

633
00:33:02.039 --> 00:33:04.160
and he's been on the Huberman podcast. He's like an

634
00:33:04.200 --> 00:33:07.880
og when it comes to this. And you know, the

635
00:33:07.960 --> 00:33:10.640
guy who was putting it on, I was actually we

636
00:33:10.640 --> 00:33:15.799
were he was considering investing in the company, and he

637
00:33:15.880 --> 00:33:21.039
brought doctor Jack to kinda vet me out, and he's like,

638
00:33:21.160 --> 00:33:24.000
you know, so I'm like, oh, great, doctor Felt. You know,

639
00:33:25.400 --> 00:33:28.680
he's a terby a part, you know, pressure. Anyways, he

640
00:33:28.720 --> 00:33:31.359
goes through the experience. He's got a real like kind

641
00:33:31.359 --> 00:33:34.039
of stone cold look. He's a very serious fella. And

642
00:33:34.160 --> 00:33:36.200
he walks up to me afterwards and he was like,

643
00:33:36.680 --> 00:33:40.920
holy cow, He's like that was amazing. Wow. He goes,

644
00:33:40.960 --> 00:33:43.039
I need to learn everything about this. Can we grab

645
00:33:43.119 --> 00:33:46.440
lunch and da da da. So we became really cool,

646
00:33:46.480 --> 00:33:48.799
and you know, he's been sending me white papers and

647
00:33:48.880 --> 00:33:52.000
all these studies and he actually we I took him

648
00:33:52.000 --> 00:33:54.440
to NASA with me. So he was in the NASA

649
00:33:54.519 --> 00:33:57.039
event with me, and he ran the board for all

650
00:33:57.079 --> 00:34:00.279
the scientists that could do Q and a's after words,

651
00:34:00.319 --> 00:34:03.680
and we uh through him. We brought doctor Helen Levetski,

652
00:34:03.839 --> 00:34:09.039
who's the top psychiatrist over at UCLA, and you know,

653
00:34:09.079 --> 00:34:12.000
it's great we actually having them on our in our community.

654
00:34:12.039 --> 00:34:14.320
We do these events till beyond in about two weeks

655
00:34:14.320 --> 00:34:17.800
sharing some new discoveries. So yeah, man, it's you know,

656
00:34:17.840 --> 00:34:20.760
it's it's pretty wild that it's people really don't know

657
00:34:20.800 --> 00:34:22.920
about it. And you know, doctor Jack, he's the he's

658
00:34:22.960 --> 00:34:26.920
the guy who discovered the mechanism in the brain that

659
00:34:27.000 --> 00:34:31.480
controls our breathing. Like it's it's wild. So you know

660
00:34:31.519 --> 00:34:33.559
it's I don't feel like I just I didn't invent

661
00:34:33.639 --> 00:34:35.800
this first and foremost. That's that's for sure, let's get

662
00:34:35.800 --> 00:34:39.679
that straight. However, there's a group of us who are

663
00:34:40.159 --> 00:34:47.960
reintroducing this natural, organic, very potent technique back into society, humanity,

664
00:34:48.239 --> 00:34:49.719
and I think that's what's happening right now.

665
00:34:50.719 --> 00:34:50.960
Wow.

666
00:34:51.679 --> 00:34:56.119
So you mentioned doing this breathing, the sequence whatever you

667
00:34:56.159 --> 00:34:59.639
want to call it. Yeah, you mentioned that your events

668
00:34:59.719 --> 00:35:01.639
or the the time that you're breathing is for about

669
00:35:01.840 --> 00:35:03.480
a half give or take a little bit of like

670
00:35:03.880 --> 00:35:09.800
under a half hour. I would think with our break

671
00:35:10.199 --> 00:35:13.199
in between like you mentioned, I mean I might have

672
00:35:13.239 --> 00:35:16.440
a hard time with that. So is this I know

673
00:35:16.480 --> 00:35:18.679
you mentioned people who had heart attacks or things like

674
00:35:18.679 --> 00:35:22.480
that maybe not the best for But do you need

675
00:35:22.519 --> 00:35:24.639
to work your way into this or can you just

676
00:35:24.760 --> 00:35:27.119
jump in with both feet?

677
00:35:27.840 --> 00:35:30.880
Yeah? First of all, i'd say this tech like I

678
00:35:30.960 --> 00:35:35.239
like warming up the diaphragm. It's really not You're not

679
00:35:35.320 --> 00:35:38.400
running a marathon. You know this has nothing to do

680
00:35:38.480 --> 00:35:39.519
with physical fitness.

681
00:35:39.960 --> 00:35:42.119
It might be more mental though, you know, because like.

682
00:35:43.480 --> 00:35:46.239
It's a mental thing. It's all about kind of spiritual willpower,

683
00:35:46.360 --> 00:35:49.920
mental toughness because the triggers in the brain red alarms.

684
00:35:49.960 --> 00:35:53.199
Stockle were you going out your comforts on the body's like,

685
00:35:53.239 --> 00:35:56.119
what's going on? And like, is why I spend twenty

686
00:35:56.119 --> 00:35:58.400
minutes in the beginning saying, Hey, these are the things

687
00:35:58.400 --> 00:36:00.280
that's gonna come up. You know you're gonna going to

688
00:36:00.320 --> 00:36:02.960
feel these things, and you know they they happened. Like

689
00:36:03.000 --> 00:36:05.519
I remember saying to one person, I was like, hey, well,

690
00:36:05.559 --> 00:36:08.360
I say to everybody, you know you're gonna feel tingling.

691
00:36:08.880 --> 00:36:10.599
And you know it could it could feel like this.

692
00:36:10.639 --> 00:36:13.239
I could feel like that. And there was this one gentleman,

693
00:36:13.360 --> 00:36:16.119
super cool dude. Actually we became friends afterwards. He was

694
00:36:17.440 --> 00:36:20.960
he's in Zendaya's father and he was also a manager,

695
00:36:21.280 --> 00:36:25.280
and he went to all my breathwork events and super committed.

696
00:36:25.320 --> 00:36:27.920
And you know he's like this six foot five black

697
00:36:27.960 --> 00:36:30.639
dude with dreads, you know, and a really serious face.

698
00:36:31.159 --> 00:36:32.800
And you know he was in the back and he

699
00:36:32.840 --> 00:36:34.800
was doing it. You know, I used to say, I

700
00:36:34.880 --> 00:36:36.679
seen it all, and you know, you never see it all.

701
00:36:37.320 --> 00:36:39.920
And I remember seeing him in the back and he

702
00:36:40.039 --> 00:36:42.639
was like going under his yoga mat and he kept

703
00:36:42.760 --> 00:36:44.960
putting his fingers and sliding them up and down his

704
00:36:45.039 --> 00:36:46.880
yoga mat and he kept doing it. I'm like, what,

705
00:36:47.199 --> 00:36:49.199
I never seen anyone do that? Like what is he doing?

706
00:36:49.840 --> 00:36:51.000
He doing weird things for him.

707
00:36:51.440 --> 00:36:54.079
Yeah. Like, it wasn't until a year later he's like, hey,

708
00:36:54.079 --> 00:36:56.400
remember that first breath work that we we did. I'm like,

709
00:36:56.440 --> 00:37:00.519
in my head, I'm like, I remember exactly what He's like, Man,

710
00:37:00.559 --> 00:37:02.039
you were saying this was going to happen and I

711
00:37:02.039 --> 00:37:04.440
was going to feel this, and I'm like, man, that's blowney,

712
00:37:04.519 --> 00:37:06.440
that's not going to happen to me. He goes and

713
00:37:06.440 --> 00:37:10.840
all of a sudden, my body started vibrating so much

714
00:37:10.920 --> 00:37:15.960
that I thought my yoga mat was plugged in certually

715
00:37:16.000 --> 00:37:18.440
for the cord to the yoga bat because he thought

716
00:37:18.440 --> 00:37:20.000
his yoga bat was vibrating.

717
00:37:20.760 --> 00:37:23.159
Oh my gosh, that's awesome. Wow.

718
00:37:23.519 --> 00:37:26.079
Yeah, that's the power of like what this? What this cool? Do?

719
00:37:26.760 --> 00:37:28.199
I wonder how what happened to me?

720
00:37:28.880 --> 00:37:29.079
Yeah?

721
00:37:29.119 --> 00:37:30.599
I can only imagine. We have to try it up

722
00:37:31.000 --> 00:37:39.159
have abitation, So you obviously guide people through this experience, right,

723
00:37:39.199 --> 00:37:42.559
and you mentioned you're doing it every two weeks, but

724
00:37:42.639 --> 00:37:45.679
you also talked about the fact that you teach people

725
00:37:45.760 --> 00:37:48.960
how to do this. So what does that look like,

726
00:37:49.039 --> 00:37:51.480
how long does it take? How much commitment is there

727
00:37:51.639 --> 00:37:53.840
as someone like if I wanted to become a practitioner

728
00:37:53.960 --> 00:37:54.519
for example.

729
00:37:55.360 --> 00:37:59.159
Yeah, So we certify people two ways. They can do virtual, right,

730
00:37:59.159 --> 00:38:02.039
they can do virtual on demand, or they can do

731
00:38:02.239 --> 00:38:06.639
live in person. So typically if they go virtually, you know,

732
00:38:06.719 --> 00:38:10.159
they can get certified anywhere between two weeks and a month.

733
00:38:10.199 --> 00:38:15.960
And then we have a fully immersive crash course retreat

734
00:38:16.159 --> 00:38:20.039
where it's three full days, like super early Friday morning

735
00:38:20.119 --> 00:38:22.719
all the way to a late Sunday night. We'll go

736
00:38:22.840 --> 00:38:24.559
sometimes to like one in the morning. It's like a

737
00:38:24.599 --> 00:38:27.440
real intensive but they get hands on experience and they

738
00:38:27.440 --> 00:38:30.000
get to see things in real time and we give

739
00:38:30.039 --> 00:38:32.239
them everything that they need in those three days. And

740
00:38:32.280 --> 00:38:35.920
I do those every three months or every four months

741
00:38:35.920 --> 00:38:39.360
about and in three days they can get certified in breathwork.

742
00:38:39.559 --> 00:38:41.760
So they have the intensive and then we have the virtual.

743
00:38:41.840 --> 00:38:43.960
So let's just say three days to thirty days is

744
00:38:44.000 --> 00:38:45.480
tip the average.

745
00:38:45.440 --> 00:38:50.559
Wow, and then the breathwork sessions that you lead. Those

746
00:38:50.599 --> 00:38:52.320
are those virtual or is those in person?

747
00:38:52.880 --> 00:38:54.960
Those are virtual? Some of them I do in person,

748
00:38:55.039 --> 00:38:57.679
but that's really rare. I do the virtual just because

749
00:38:57.800 --> 00:38:59.920
you know, we can we get people from all over

750
00:39:00.119 --> 00:39:02.679
all different countries and I just love going on there

751
00:39:02.679 --> 00:39:06.199
and seeing like Zimbabwe and like I'm like wow, like welcome,

752
00:39:06.360 --> 00:39:08.000
you know, So it's so cool.

753
00:39:08.440 --> 00:39:09.119
That does sound cool?

754
00:39:09.199 --> 00:39:11.119
Do you do personal one on one sessions?

755
00:39:11.920 --> 00:39:15.000
I don't. I don't, but I do have like hundreds

756
00:39:15.000 --> 00:39:18.239
of teachers who do offer them in different states. So

757
00:39:18.320 --> 00:39:20.360
people go on our website and they say, hey, I'm

758
00:39:20.360 --> 00:39:22.440
in Connecticut, you know, We're like, yeah, we got six

759
00:39:22.480 --> 00:39:25.079
facilitators out there here. You can reach out to them. Great,

760
00:39:25.400 --> 00:39:26.239
they'll do what I want.

761
00:39:26.360 --> 00:39:31.039
Wow, that sounds awesome. So if one wanted to participate

762
00:39:31.760 --> 00:39:36.320
or become a certified trainer or anything like that, we'll

763
00:39:36.400 --> 00:39:38.519
learn more about it. What's the best way for someone

764
00:39:38.559 --> 00:39:39.199
to reach out to you?

765
00:39:40.039 --> 00:39:43.719
So if they go to breathworkdetos dot com, so it's

766
00:39:43.760 --> 00:39:46.840
type in breathworkdetos dot com and you'll see like a

767
00:39:46.880 --> 00:39:49.199
little You'll see a video that kind of explains what

768
00:39:49.239 --> 00:39:51.559
I do, and then you'll see like a little program

769
00:39:51.599 --> 00:39:54.280
suite where you can click okay, I'm interested in a

770
00:39:54.360 --> 00:39:57.159
virtual event. I want to become a teacher, or I

771
00:39:57.199 --> 00:39:59.199
want to do corporate or you know, whatever it is.

772
00:40:00.039 --> 00:40:03.880
And for the teachers, we we offer a free masterclass,

773
00:40:03.880 --> 00:40:07.960
We offer free clarity calls, consultation calls, and you know,

774
00:40:08.000 --> 00:40:10.360
we try to give as many resources as we possibly

775
00:40:10.400 --> 00:40:12.519
can for people who are considering and you know, they

776
00:40:12.599 --> 00:40:14.039
might not even want to be a teacher. We have

777
00:40:14.079 --> 00:40:15.719
people come in it's like I don't even know if

778
00:40:15.719 --> 00:40:17.000
I want to teach this, but I just feel like

779
00:40:17.000 --> 00:40:19.360
I need to learn this. And then they learn it

780
00:40:19.400 --> 00:40:21.239
and they're like, okay, now I'm teaching and I'm creating

781
00:40:21.239 --> 00:40:24.960
a business. Right. So we we you know, we you know,

782
00:40:25.000 --> 00:40:26.760
we love to note the intentions, but we also know

783
00:40:26.840 --> 00:40:29.119
after you go through our training, you're going to come

784
00:40:29.159 --> 00:40:29.920
out a different person.

785
00:40:30.280 --> 00:40:33.480
Wow, that sounds perfect.

786
00:40:33.639 --> 00:40:37.599
That it does sounds amazing. So is this something that

787
00:40:37.639 --> 00:40:40.480
can help everything? Or there are things that this just

788
00:40:40.519 --> 00:40:41.119
doesn't touch.

789
00:40:43.079 --> 00:40:44.840
I won't say there's things that it won't touch. I

790
00:40:44.880 --> 00:40:47.719
won't say it does everything. I will say the breath

791
00:40:47.800 --> 00:40:51.519
is very intelligent, the body is very intelligent. It's going

792
00:40:51.599 --> 00:40:55.760
to give you what you need in that moment, you know,

793
00:40:55.880 --> 00:40:59.400
at that time, whether you realize it or not. And

794
00:41:00.239 --> 00:41:01.039
it's so powerful.

795
00:41:01.599 --> 00:41:06.039
Does it work for somebody who is more say, say

796
00:41:06.079 --> 00:41:08.480
someone drags their friend, you know, the one person's believer

797
00:41:08.519 --> 00:41:10.320
with the one person is not. Is it going to

798
00:41:10.400 --> 00:41:12.360
have the same effect for both people or do you

799
00:41:12.400 --> 00:41:14.239
have to really be bought into it in order for

800
00:41:14.280 --> 00:41:14.599
it to? Oh?

801
00:41:14.679 --> 00:41:19.599
No, I love the skeptics. Those are my favorite. They're like,

802
00:41:19.599 --> 00:41:21.440
oh yeah, let's do this stupid little thing and then

803
00:41:21.440 --> 00:41:26.480
they come in whoa like like, I don't know, it's

804
00:41:26.519 --> 00:41:30.159
some weird like feeling I get when skeptics go through

805
00:41:30.239 --> 00:41:32.159
and then they just blows their mind because I think

806
00:41:32.559 --> 00:41:34.880
because I was that person, you know, and I think

807
00:41:34.960 --> 00:41:37.000
when I meet those people too, I'm like, yeah, you

808
00:41:37.039 --> 00:41:39.719
just just watch, just just wait. You know, there's resistant

809
00:41:39.719 --> 00:41:41.920
people that no matter what, you know, they're going to

810
00:41:42.039 --> 00:41:45.440
sabotage their own healings. And that's you know, they're not

811
00:41:45.559 --> 00:41:48.599
ready and that's okay, you know they'll get there at

812
00:41:48.639 --> 00:41:51.440
the own time. But I will say kind of I

813
00:41:51.480 --> 00:41:54.320
want to touch back on your other question is that

814
00:41:54.440 --> 00:41:58.559
I think we're moving into a time where the world

815
00:41:58.639 --> 00:42:03.760
and even science and in the medical industry is realizing

816
00:42:03.840 --> 00:42:08.320
that a lot of our issues stem from emotional things

817
00:42:08.320 --> 00:42:10.880
that happened to us in the past. Like even if

818
00:42:10.880 --> 00:42:16.159
you look at stress. Harvard came out of a study

819
00:42:16.199 --> 00:42:19.320
and they said that eighty percent of all doctor's visits

820
00:42:19.440 --> 00:42:22.440
are stress related. So if you just think about that number,

821
00:42:22.840 --> 00:42:27.679
eighty percent of all doctor's visits are stress related. So

822
00:42:28.559 --> 00:42:31.639
think about all the issues. You know, then what happens

823
00:42:31.639 --> 00:42:34.000
they come in, They have this symptom, they've given this pill,

824
00:42:34.039 --> 00:42:36.280
and then that pill maybe fixes that, but gives you

825
00:42:36.400 --> 00:42:38.079
eight other symptoms, and now they have to take a

826
00:42:38.119 --> 00:42:41.159
pill to fix that, and then just go down this

827
00:42:41.360 --> 00:42:43.920
you know, you know, we won't even go there. You

828
00:42:43.920 --> 00:42:48.840
guys understand how that look guilty? You know, we've all

829
00:42:48.880 --> 00:42:52.480
done it. And and if we can, like to me,

830
00:42:52.599 --> 00:42:54.760
that's like mowing the lawn, right, you can mow the

831
00:42:54.840 --> 00:42:58.119
lawn and wow, my lawn looks great. Right, and then

832
00:42:58.239 --> 00:43:01.000
you know, sex six days later, you've got weeds popping

833
00:43:01.079 --> 00:43:03.039
out all over the place, and then you're going to

834
00:43:03.079 --> 00:43:06.079
mow it again. I feel like this work is like

835
00:43:06.440 --> 00:43:09.639
ripping out the weeds from the root so they don't

836
00:43:09.679 --> 00:43:12.079
grow back, because that's where it's coming from right. We

837
00:43:12.159 --> 00:43:16.239
got to get well, how did this manifest? And things

838
00:43:16.280 --> 00:43:22.000
do manifest in the spiritual world first, they manifest energetically first,

839
00:43:22.079 --> 00:43:26.840
and then it turns into physical issues and we try

840
00:43:27.239 --> 00:43:30.119
our goals to try to catch it before it manifests

841
00:43:30.159 --> 00:43:33.840
into X, Y, and Z. So I think we're moving

842
00:43:33.840 --> 00:43:35.760
into a place. So I'm not. I'm not that guy

843
00:43:36.400 --> 00:43:41.159
who is like all Eastern medicine, in all allternate medicine

844
00:43:41.199 --> 00:43:43.840
and whatever modality is. You know, if I got a

845
00:43:44.800 --> 00:43:48.559
broken limb or a tooth, you know that we needs

846
00:43:48.599 --> 00:43:51.280
a cavity, give me the novacaine, give me the painkillers.

847
00:43:51.360 --> 00:43:53.840
Like you know, I'm like, I'm not. I think it's

848
00:43:53.880 --> 00:43:56.800
the merging of the two worlds, the merging of East

849
00:43:56.800 --> 00:43:58.440
and the West. I think that's where we're going to

850
00:43:58.519 --> 00:44:01.119
find the most growth. And you know, the funny thing

851
00:44:01.119 --> 00:44:03.719
about alternate air quotes, in case they can't see me,

852
00:44:04.000 --> 00:44:10.320
alternate therapies, is that mainstream society convinced us that things

853
00:44:10.360 --> 00:44:14.760
like breathwork are alternative medicines, are modalities, when the truth

854
00:44:14.840 --> 00:44:20.480
is they're humanity's original medicine and everything else that came

855
00:44:20.519 --> 00:44:25.360
after that, those are the alternatives, right, so you bring

856
00:44:25.440 --> 00:44:26.360
up an interesting point.

857
00:44:26.440 --> 00:44:30.280
You do this breath work modality, for I've got an

858
00:44:30.280 --> 00:44:32.719
issue with my stomach and it goes away on the

859
00:44:32.840 --> 00:44:35.840
very first time that you do this, So they not

860
00:44:35.840 --> 00:44:38.400
only need to do it anymore, right, or do you

861
00:44:38.440 --> 00:44:40.039
now focus it on other things? I mean, I know

862
00:44:40.119 --> 00:44:43.519
you don't do it. The breath is intelligent. So but

863
00:44:43.599 --> 00:44:45.960
you recommend this become a lifestyle, right or is it

864
00:44:46.039 --> 00:44:47.719
just like a fit, quick fix a maintenance.

865
00:44:47.760 --> 00:44:49.039
Do you do like a maintenance breath work?

866
00:44:49.079 --> 00:44:50.960
Yeah, I'm glad you guys brought this up because I

867
00:44:51.000 --> 00:44:52.400
was going to make a point to make sure that

868
00:44:52.440 --> 00:44:55.639
I said this this modality. You don't need to do

869
00:44:55.679 --> 00:44:59.639
this every day, that's all. God, you don't need to

870
00:44:59.639 --> 00:45:02.079
do it. Ever when I first found it, and I

871
00:45:02.119 --> 00:45:04.400
discovered it, I did it every single day for close

872
00:45:04.440 --> 00:45:07.639
to ten months straight, wow, full sessions. But that was

873
00:45:07.719 --> 00:45:11.599
also my own initiation into being able to go out

874
00:45:11.599 --> 00:45:13.480
there and teach this. And you know, I studied all

875
00:45:13.519 --> 00:45:16.159
different people and I already had knowledge of it, but

876
00:45:16.239 --> 00:45:18.559
I did every single day almost ten months in a row.

877
00:45:19.199 --> 00:45:23.079
And but you, not you, but anybody, they don't have

878
00:45:23.199 --> 00:45:25.800
to do this every single day, like what I recommend is,

879
00:45:26.239 --> 00:45:28.400
you know, do a deep session. You know, there's a

880
00:45:28.400 --> 00:45:30.320
reason why we do them every two weeks. We do

881
00:45:30.360 --> 00:45:32.159
a deep session every two weeks. But then we also

882
00:45:32.280 --> 00:45:38.960
have something called the Breakfast Club. Oh that's clever. Did

883
00:45:39.039 --> 00:45:44.039
we do it every morning, even days a week, six

884
00:45:44.119 --> 00:45:48.599
am every single day. I have a different facilitator every

885
00:45:48.800 --> 00:45:52.199
morning of each day who brings people through these sessions.

886
00:45:52.199 --> 00:45:55.760
But they're micro sessions, only eight to ten minutes long.

887
00:45:56.280 --> 00:45:58.559
That's like, oh right, So how do you join the

888
00:45:58.599 --> 00:45:59.480
Breakfast Club?

889
00:46:00.079 --> 00:46:01.760
Yeah? So it's part of our membership. So when people

890
00:46:01.920 --> 00:46:04.559
book members, they get access to all my virtual events,

891
00:46:04.599 --> 00:46:07.239
they get access to the Breakfast Club, they get access

892
00:46:07.280 --> 00:46:08.599
to recordings.

893
00:46:08.719 --> 00:46:17.800
It sounds so funny, sounds like you're Mike Tyson. So

894
00:46:18.079 --> 00:46:21.480
let's just clarify six am Pacific time, right.

895
00:46:21.599 --> 00:46:23.480
Yeah, so that's nine am Eastern time.

896
00:46:24.599 --> 00:46:27.639
Much better, much better for me at that times. Yeah,

897
00:46:27.880 --> 00:46:29.159
all right, I just want to clarify that.

898
00:46:29.239 --> 00:46:30.880
Yeah. Cool.

899
00:46:31.000 --> 00:46:33.719
So I love the Yeah, I love the Breakfast back.

900
00:46:34.840 --> 00:46:35.039
Yeah.

901
00:46:35.039 --> 00:46:37.039
I can't do it. I can't do it. I get

902
00:46:37.119 --> 00:46:39.800
too much in my head. So all right, awesome. Is

903
00:46:39.800 --> 00:46:41.679
there anything that we haven't talked about? You want to

904
00:46:41.679 --> 00:46:43.760
make sure that the people who are listening or watching

905
00:46:43.840 --> 00:46:46.440
this really truly get from this conversation.

906
00:46:47.920 --> 00:46:52.239
I mean, I would say, I mean, I don't know.

907
00:46:52.400 --> 00:46:54.679
I said an intention when I decided to do this

908
00:46:54.760 --> 00:46:59.280
podcast circuit, and my intention was not to convert people

909
00:46:59.320 --> 00:47:03.760
into my breath theism religion. Right my I was like,

910
00:47:03.800 --> 00:47:07.199
what do I really want from this? And a successful

911
00:47:07.239 --> 00:47:09.679
podcast for me is if anywhere in the podcast, it

912
00:47:09.679 --> 00:47:11.400
doesn't matter if Karen said it, you said it, I

913
00:47:11.440 --> 00:47:14.760
said it, they got curious. If we were able to

914
00:47:14.920 --> 00:47:19.440
spark their curiosity so much where they felt like they

915
00:47:19.480 --> 00:47:21.559
had to know more about it, and they opened their

916
00:47:21.599 --> 00:47:24.840
phone or their you know, their computer, and they start

917
00:47:24.880 --> 00:47:27.519
to search, or they go on breathwork detoks, or maybe

918
00:47:27.519 --> 00:47:29.920
they go on YouTube or chat jibit whatever. If we

919
00:47:30.039 --> 00:47:33.159
spark that curiosity to have them go down some rabbit

920
00:47:33.199 --> 00:47:36.480
hole about breath work, it's ultimately going to lead them

921
00:47:36.519 --> 00:47:39.679
to some form of conscious breathing. Any form of conscious

922
00:47:39.719 --> 00:47:42.039
breathing is going to be beneficial for your life. So

923
00:47:42.079 --> 00:47:44.239
we won That's what. That's what, that's what I that's

924
00:47:44.239 --> 00:47:46.119
my intention for this podcast.

925
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Well, I will easily, happily, unhesitated, unhesitatingly say that you

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have won. Because I'm incredibly curious and I got your

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website pulled up already on my laptop here, and I'm

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going to do a pep or dive into it because

929
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it sounds really interesting.

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I have one question that just popped into my head

931
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and it's going to sound like a joke, but it's

932
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totally legit. Oh boy, So we're walking in the cold

933
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and flu season. If you have like a mad stuffed

934
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up nose, you can still do this right because it's

935
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through your mouth or bronchite.

936
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It's no bronchitis. I would coughie fit.

937
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Yeah.

938
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Yeah, it would actually help Claire out the lungs stuff stuff,

939
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because you want to get this stuff out, you know.

940
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But i'd say people, yeah, if your nose is stuffy,

941
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its mouth breathing, yes.

942
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Can help you feel better and it help clear up

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the cold.

944
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It'll feel like it's like I'm sleeping.

945
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Or like you're standing in the grocery store.

946
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Yeah, and it does stret them in your immune system

947
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as well. So there's there's tons of benefits that we

948
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didn't get into. I'll just share one of them of

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why I do it every single day. The emotional healing

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was the deepest one for me that triggered everything. While

951
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I'm like, wow, this stuff works, but there's something that

952
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it gives me and other people every single day, and clarity.

953
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There is a profound amount of clarity that comes through

954
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during breath work, and this is because the prefiltal cortex

955
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of the brain begins to quiet down. And that's the

956
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part of the brain that is the executive decision maker.

957
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It's the let's call it the ego, the monkey mind,

958
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the critic, the interstaboteur. You know. It says this is good,

959
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this is bad. You know, I'm me, You're you. And

960
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when you quiet that part down, all of a sudden,

961
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the brain goes into transient hypoferntality, which is another word

962
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for flow state, and then all of a sudden, you

963
00:49:34.039 --> 00:49:38.760
see all the parts of your life that are already there,

964
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and it's like the blindfold's ripped off and you're able

965
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to connect the dots. And the level of creativity, the

966
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level of clarity that you get, it's it's priceless to

967
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me because I've been confused before. I've been in places

968
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where I felt like I was in the dark. I

969
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didn't know which step to take, whether it's to get

970
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into that relationship or you know, to take that position

971
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or whatever it may be, or just simply not even

972
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knowing your own purpose. Right, what is my mission? What's

973
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my purpose? What am I supposed to do? Why am

974
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I here? You know, confusion is temporary insanity. I do

975
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not like being confused, and that made me value clarity

976
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so much more. And when you have that clear path,

977
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it's just like, oh man, that's where actually energy comes from.

978
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That's where motivation comes from. The moment you get Claire,

979
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you get a burst of energy and motivation that allows

980
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you to take that next step in your life with

981
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just more vigor and life force. Wow.

982
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Wow, So I urge everyone, We're going to add a

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link in our show notes to your website so that

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they can find you easily. Go to skepticmposition dot com.

985
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You'll see his episode. In the episode, you'll see link

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Lady Nerve so that it's easy for you to access it.

987
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Do go to his website and check out the video

988
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I did before we started this interview. He talks about

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the four people that this most benefits. We didn't even

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get into it in this conversation, but it is definitely

991
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beneficial for you to go and check that out at

992
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the end of the day. This is really good for everybody,

993
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but specifically four types of people. It's really good for.

994
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Well, it's like a cliffhanger. Now you have to go

995
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to the website right out.

996
00:51:14.079 --> 00:51:15.960
Yeah, it's almost like I do this for a living

997
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or something. All Right, Curtis you one of the four

998
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this is. This has been awesome. It's been a great conversation.

999
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Loved meeting you. Thank you for bringing this to our

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attention and to the attention of our audience. I know

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I'm gonna you'll see me, maybe not the breath Fest Club,

1002
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but you might see me one of the other sessions,

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just because I'm really curious about it. I really want

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to dive into it. So thank you so much for

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taking the time and coming and chatting with this about it.

1006
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Thank you, guys, I appreciate you.
Kurtis Lee Thomas

Spiritual Healer, Founder of the Breathwork Detox Modality & Board Chair of the Just Breathe Foundation

Kurtis Lee Thomas is a Spiritual Healer and the founder of the Breathwork Detox modality, featured on The Today Show and voted #1 Employee Wellbeing Provider of 2023. He is also the Board Chair of the Just Breathe Foundation, which has collaborated with Nike, NASA, and celebrities to promote mental health awareness.

Kurtis is a #1 international best-selling author of The World is Yours: The Secrets Behind “The Secret” and How to Thrive in the Age of Anxiety. He has guided thousands through transformational breathwork journeys, helping them release anxiety, trauma, and emotional blocks while awakening to deeper clarity, peace, and purpose.