
If you’ve ever looked at the news and thought, “This can’t be progress… can it?” ...you’re not alone. War, division, climate crisis, institutional breakdown... it can feel less like spiritual awakening and more like collective unraveling. So what if this chaos isn’t the end… but a transition?
Episode Overview
In this episode of The Skeptic Metaphysicians, we sit down with Dick Larson, retired counselor, longtime student of the Ageless Wisdom teachings, and volunteer with Share International, to explore one of the most controversial and hopeful metaphysical frameworks we’ve ever discussed.
Dick introduces the idea that humanity is moving from the Age of Pisces into Aquarius, a shift in consciousness that may explain why everything feels unstable right now. He shares the perspective that a World Teacher known as Maitreya, along with the Masters of Wisdom, are returning to guide humanity through this transition.
No pressure to believe. In fact, Dick explicitly says not to. Just listen. Let it sit. And see what resonates.
If you’re spiritually curious but allergic to dogma… this one’s going to stretch you.
Key Insights
- Why breakdown might actually be a phase in human consciousness evolution
- The Age of Aquarius explained through astronomy, not horoscope memes
- What “Masters of Wisdom” actually means (and why Dick insists they’re not gurus)
- How cause and effect (karma) and reincarnation fit into modern spirituality
- Why cooperation may be the defining energy of the next 2,000 years
- The practical priorities Dick says matter most right now: food, housing, healthcare, education, environment
- A framework for hope that doesn’t require abandoning critical thinking
- Telepathy vs. channeling (yes, we went there)
- The climate crisis from a metaphysical perspective
- Whether humanity is truly alone in its evolutionary journey
Whether you believe in Maitreya or not, the deeper question is this:
Are we witnessing collapse...or the painful birth of something new?
For skeptics navigating modern spirituality, this conversation offers context. For seekers exploring metaphysics and spiritual awakening, it offers structure. And for everyone else? It offers a possibility that hope isn’t naïve, it’s strategic.
Listen & Reflect
You don’t have to agree. You don’t have to convert. Just ask yourself:
If humanity is in transition… what role might you play in it?
Tune in, think it through, and let us know what lands.
The Skeptic Metaphysicians is a pragmatic spirituality podcast for curious minds exploring the unknown without abandoning critical thinking. Each episode breaks down metaphysics explained through grounded conversation, examining hidden truths behind spiritual awakening, consciousness expansion, and expanded consciousness. We explore intuition, mediumship, spirit guides, and the mechanics of healing and personal transformation—bridging skeptical inquiry with meaningful spiritual experience. If you’re navigating your own awakening or questioning reality while staying intellectually honest, this podcast is for seekers and skeptics alike.
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a permanent spirit, whatever you want to call it.
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And they reside in the mountains and desert regions of the world.
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For there's no pollution to distract them, no noises, nothing like that.
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Karen, I'm a little worried.
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I'm going to miss you because you must be almost there.
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You're so close to perfect.
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So I was just going to ask you when you said they reside.
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So they are they earth-batant,
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like are they attached to the earth?
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Like we are or are they more in the spiritual realm?
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No, they're at rest.
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Some of them have bodies.
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And some of them just have their consciousness at rest
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in the mountains or desert regions of the world.
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But yeah, they're on the planet.
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They're not up in heaven somewhere.
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Wherever we think heaven is.
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So it's hard for me to wrap my mind around this.
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Oh, okay.
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Their consciousness is in the mountains.
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And it does just like just disembodied consciousness happens to be in a mountain.
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Yes.
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They're in the Himalayas.
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There's one master in the mountains out here, the San Bernardino mountains out here on the west coast,
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just north of Los Angeles.
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There's a there's a 14 masters on the planet right now.
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And there's a master in London.
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That's my trail.
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We'll talk more about him.
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There's a master in Geneva.
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There's a master in Darjeeling, one in Tokyo, one in New York, one in the mountains out here in western California.
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There are 14 of them, one in Rome.
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The one in Rome, everybody's heard of.
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And so we'll get to talking about them.
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But there are 14 on the planet now.
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And before this age of Aquarius is over, there will be over 40 masters in physical bodies walking on the planet.
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And they'll be giving us suggestions, giving us advice.
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They'll never make us do anything or tell us to do anything.
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They're teachers.
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And they will say, well, have you thought of trying this?
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Well, what do you think about this?
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That's how they'll work.
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So they're almost like angels on the planet, right?
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Angels in physical form.
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Absolutely.
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How will people know who they are?
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Because if someone gives them the suggestion, if you know some master, they're gonna go, okay.
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Yeah, they will identify themselves.
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Yeah.
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But not until my tray is does first.
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My tray is their leader.
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That's spelled M-A-I-T-R-E-Y-A-Mytrea.
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It's Sanskrit.
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It means the happy one, the one who brings joy.
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So the fat Buddha.
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He's not a Buddha.
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The Buddha is his brother.
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He and the Buddha were the first two to complete physical, earthly evolution and become permanent
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spirits.
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They were the first two.
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So they're like brothers.
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They work together all the time.
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What is my tray awaiting for?
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That's a good question.
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My tray is waiting for the best time to come forward.
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How do we define that?
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The best time to come forward as little as I know, I'll share what I know, is when he thinks he can get the most people's attention when he comes forward.
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He's gonna come forward on radio and television worldwide.
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That's what the satellites are up there for.
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They're not up there for World Cup Soccer.
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They're up there for this event.
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And he will announce himself to the world.
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I am my tray of the world teacher and I'm here to help you dig your way out of this mess that you've made of things.
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That's, he's not gonna say that, but that's how he might.
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That's how they should.
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Basically what he's gonna be doing.
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Yeah.
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And so he will introduce himself and then he will introduce one of the other masters who the world knows and that's the master Jesus.
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The master Jesus is here now in a physical body living in the outskirts of Rome.
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The Pope knows he's here and a couple of cardinals around the Pope know, but they've been asked not to tell anybody because it's our responsibility to recognize them when we see them.
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Tick, you were talking about the second coming here.
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Wow.
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It is the second, it is the second.
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This is big stuff.
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We're talking about the end of the world.
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I mean, at all.
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The prophecy says, right, the second coming, Osher is in the end times.
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No, he said, well, no, he says, I will be with you till the end of the age.
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Well, that's what Jesus said.
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And the end of the age was the end of the age of Pisces.
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And now he'll be here in the age of Aquarius in physical person.
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He is here.
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Let me go back to the end of the world.
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Each planet.
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Now, this is according to the ages was the, you don't have to believe this.
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Each planet has what's called seven rounds of life.
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Each round is millions and millions of years.
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And at the end of that seven rounds, they become a perfect planet.
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The people on it are perfect.
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And that's what makes it perfect.
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Okay.
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So that means the people on it become masters.
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And yeah, so we're all going to become masters at some point.
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We have this to look forward to.
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So the earth right now is in the middle of the fourth round.
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So there are three rounds left millions and millions and millions of years left for planet earth.
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I mean, we're in the middle of the fourth round.
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Now you guys were talking earlier about something very interesting that actually happens in the middle of the fourth round.
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And that is the people on the planet wake up.
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They start to realize that there's more to life than just food, shelter, education, you know, clothing.
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They start to realize there's a deeper meaning to life.
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And that's where we're at right now, which means we're ready for the master's teachings.
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Okay.
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So I mean, I've got a lot of questions.
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I want to give you an opportunity.
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Well, how do you think that'll work out?
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Because you know how things are today?
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I mean, everyone is just fighting each other and angry. I'm looking for a scapegoat.
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And anybody who's different is, you know, bad or less than or evil.
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So here's going to come someone who's going to say, you know, I am the world teacher.
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That could be very polo.
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I mean, it could go two ways, right?
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Very polarizing.
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Right.
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Well, first of all, Jesus said, I will bring the sword of cleavage and the sword of cleavage is his love.
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And the love that is being poured into the planet right now by my tray and the other masters is what is causing us to act more like how we really feel.
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And that creates tremendous separation.
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And that separation is intentional.
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Why?
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Because it makes it makes our choices clearer.
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It becomes real clear either you want to go this way or you want to go this way.
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It makes the choice easier for humanity to see and to make.
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So that sort of cleavage has created this separation.
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Now what's going to happen under the masters is we're going to come back together.
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But right now it's there.
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It's very real.
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And this will happen when my tray comes forward.
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Benjamin Cremson said about a third of the people will say, you know what you're saying makes sense.
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I think I want to try.
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I think I want to help about a third of the people will go, whoa, I want to wait and see.
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I'm not sure.
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And the other third will say, look out, look out, Antichrist, Antichrist.
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Right.
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Right.
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So that's it.
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That's about what will happen.
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And then as time goes on, the tree is known by its fruit.
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And as the time goes on, people will see that the masters, everything they say is true.
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Everything they say they do.
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And that they do nothing but good.
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They're full of goodwill for humanity.
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They don't judge us.
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They don't criticize us.
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They're totally tolerant of us.
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Why?
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Because they were us.
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They've been through everything we've been through.
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They've killed people.
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They've been killed.
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They've abandoned people.
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They've been abandoned.
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You know, they've been they've been pouring uneducated.
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They've been wealthy and very educated.
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They've had every experience you can have on this planet.
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So they understand us absolutely totally.
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And that's why they don't judge us.
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They just love us.
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This is fascinating.
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It's such an incredible concept that we've not talked about.
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Incredibly hopeful and wonderful if it all works out the way you're talking about.
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Yes.
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And I hope that it does because I have hope for humanity.
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I bet.
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I have more than hope.
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I'm absolutely convinced.
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But I don't ask the audience to be.
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I'm just introducing these ideas.
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I'll give you a quote from my trail.
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My trail said, "Do not be afraid of the future.
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All will be well.
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All manner of things will be well."
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That's a direct quote.
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And I love that quote.
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It matches a lot of different conversations that we've had over the last several years on this show.
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Oh, good.
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But the biggest, you brought up the biggest question mark at the very beginning of your conversation of our conversation with you.
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You mentioned that the audience should not believe anything that you say.
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Right.
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How is it that you believe it's so completely because of my personal experiences?
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Okay.
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I have experience Benjamin Kram many, many, many times.
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I mean, every year he came from London.
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He came to New York and gave a lecture.
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Then he came to Los Angeles and gave a lecture.
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Then he went to Tokyo and gave...
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Oh, San Francisco and gave a lecture.
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And he went to Tokyo and gave a lecture.
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And then around the world, Geneva, London.
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And he did this every year for over 40 years.
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And his lectures, during his lectures, you would receive a blessing.
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He would ask my tria to go through Benjamin Kram and give a blessing to the audience.
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And there would be... That's how it would start.
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His lecture would start with a blessing and end with a blessing.
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And now people who are really sensitive to energy were just blown away by these blessings.
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I'm not.
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My body is like a brick.
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I feel a little...
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I feel a little bit of a tickle in my throat sometimes, then a little bit of a vibration in my head sometimes when I meditate.
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But that's about it for me.
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I basically meditate on faith.
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I'm assuming something is happening.
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And so I do it regularly every day.
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But his lectures gave that experience.
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Number one, number two, he had a retreat in Europe and in America, up in San Francisco, for coworkers.
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Share international volunteers.
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We're all volunteers.
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None of us are paid to try and help get the word out that Benjamin Kram was talking about.
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And give people some hope.
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And so this conference up in San Francisco was people from the Americas, North America, South America, Australia, New Zealand.
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And a couple of Japanese people also attended, about 125 of us total.
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There aren't a lot of us around the world that are doing this.
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And so he would give lectures.
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We would have a question.
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And answer periods, then we would, I love the my favorite part was always after his lecture was over.
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And we did our three or four or five hour meditation that night.
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We would go, I know.
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I was four or five hours.
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Oh my god.
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I should barely do 20 minutes.
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Yeah.
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People, your audience doesn't need to do that.
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All they need to do is a little 15 minute meditation in the morning or in the evening if you can do it without falling asleep.
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I always fall asleep so I do it in the morning.
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Me too.
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Same exactly.
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A little 15 minute meditation if you don't know when 15 minutes are up, look at the clock.
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And you close your eyes so you're not easily distracted.
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You go into trying to do it in the same place every day because that creates a spiritual energy in that place.
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It makes it easier for you to meditate in that place.
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I do it in front of a painting by Benjamin Kram is an artist.
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He did tremendous paintings.
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He did a Benjamin Kram museum in Los Angeles.
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And there's one in London too, I believe.
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If there isn't, there will be.
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Anyway, tremendous paintings.
492
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Then he had lithographs made of them.
493
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Print prints.
494
00:22:44,000 --> 00:22:45,000
True.
495
00:22:45,000 --> 00:22:47,000
True perfect to the color, you know.
496
00:22:47,000 --> 00:22:48,000
And signed by him.
497
00:22:48,000 --> 00:22:50,000
And I bought a lithograph.
498
00:22:50,000 --> 00:22:54,000
And that was his only income from doing all of this was selling lithographs.
499
00:22:54,000 --> 00:22:55,000
Yeah.
500
00:22:55,000 --> 00:22:57,000
So anyway, I meditate in front of that.
501
00:22:57,000 --> 00:22:59,000
But I close my eyes once I'm ready to start.
502
00:22:59,000 --> 00:23:05,000
But I spent a lot of time with Benjamin Kram at these once a year retreats.
503
00:23:05,000 --> 00:23:14,000
And my favorite time was when we were done with meditation, we would go into the break room and have tea or coffee and cookies or fruit or whatever it was your and talk.
504
00:23:14,000 --> 00:23:18,000
And Benjamin Kram always made himself available to us.
505
00:23:18,000 --> 00:23:21,000
And then we could just talk to him like you talked to your neighbor.
506
00:23:21,000 --> 00:23:23,000
We could ask him questions, you know.
507
00:23:23,000 --> 00:23:26,000
I'll tell you an example.
508
00:23:26,000 --> 00:23:34,000
When people think they've had an experience of one of the masters, they could write to share in a national magazine, monthly magazine, round the world.
509
00:23:34,000 --> 00:23:43,000
And then if Benjamin Kram would check with his master and if it really was a master experience, he would publish that letter in share in a national magazine.
510
00:23:43,000 --> 00:23:46,000
And at the very end, say who the master was.
511
00:23:46,000 --> 00:23:53,000
Well, one of these little sessions, I said to Benjamin Kram, I said, you know, my mother lives in Minnesota.
512
00:23:53,000 --> 00:24:01,000
And she was walking from the parking lot into the grocery store and she slipped on some ice and fell.
513
00:24:01,000 --> 00:24:05,000
Now she is about 80 years old at the time.
514
00:24:05,000 --> 00:24:08,000
Yeah. And she wasn't hurt.
515
00:24:08,000 --> 00:24:15,000
And she said, she told me when I went home to visit, she said, these two really wonderful men came up over and helped me up.
516
00:24:15,000 --> 00:24:23,000
And she said, one of them even walked me all the way to the door just to make sure I'd make it okay. And of course, I'm thinking right away, masters, you know.
517
00:24:23,000 --> 00:24:25,000
I didn't say that to her.
518
00:24:25,000 --> 00:24:32,000
I just said, have you ever seen them since? She said, hmm, no.
519
00:24:32,000 --> 00:24:37,000
And so that got her thinking, well, then I asked Benjamin Kram at this coffee session.
520
00:24:37,000 --> 00:24:41,000
I said, were they masters? And she said, yes.
521
00:24:41,000 --> 00:24:47,000
So the one that helped her up was the master Jesus and the one that walked to the door was my trail.
522
00:24:47,000 --> 00:24:48,000
Cool, Lord.
523
00:24:48,000 --> 00:25:00,000
They've been appearing to people for the last 30 years around the world as ordinary people, sometimes homeless, sometimes African American, Asian American, you know, European, whatever.
524
00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:05,000
And so those are those kind of times when it's really special to be with Benjamin Kram.
525
00:25:05,000 --> 00:25:15,000
And I'll tell you, he's never bragged about his spirituality. He's never taken any credit for it. He gives all the credit to the master that worked through him that he communicated with.
526
00:25:15,000 --> 00:25:18,000
And he is just a great sense of humor.
527
00:25:18,000 --> 00:25:22,000
And the most evolved person I've ever been around, I'm sure.
528
00:25:22,000 --> 00:25:28,000
But there wasn't a false bone in his body. He always spoke the truth.
529
00:25:28,000 --> 00:25:38,000
So I just came to realize that in my experience, this is true. And then I started seeing masters and experiencing them.
530
00:25:38,000 --> 00:25:40,000
That was going to be my next question.
531
00:25:40,000 --> 00:25:41,000
Yes. Go ahead.
532
00:25:41,000 --> 00:25:44,000
No, so, so well, I don't even have to ask it. Tell us about it.
533
00:25:44,000 --> 00:25:47,000
Okay. Well, there were several.
534
00:25:47,000 --> 00:25:55,000
But this will give your listeners an idea whether they've seen a master or not because a lot of them may have and just don't know it.
535
00:25:55,000 --> 00:26:01,000
I was driving in my car right about sunset, driving home in Pasadena.
536
00:26:01,000 --> 00:26:07,000
And I stopped at a red light and I looked over and there was a bus bench on the other side of the street.
537
00:26:07,000 --> 00:26:16,000
And there was a homeless guy all slouched down with a filthy tan trench coat on and a great beard and mustache.
538
00:26:16,000 --> 00:26:21,000
And he just looked filthy. And I looked over at him and he looked up at me.
539
00:26:21,000 --> 00:26:26,000
And my very first thought was that guy is looking right through me.
540
00:26:26,000 --> 00:26:35,000
And then the light turned green and I went on, well, one of the ways you know you had an experience with the master is it's a very common ordinary experience.
541
00:26:35,000 --> 00:26:42,000
The guy just looked at me, but you can't get it out of your mind. I mean, I thought about that day after day after day, I kept coming up.
542
00:26:42,000 --> 00:26:46,000
And so I finally wrote the Benjamin Cremet was the master Jesus.
543
00:26:46,000 --> 00:26:54,000
I know. I was walking, I was going to the Cal State University to get my masters.
544
00:26:54,000 --> 00:27:00,000
And I was leaving class and walking to the parking lot along this sidewalk on the campus.
545
00:27:00,000 --> 00:27:06,000
And two young men were walking towards me and then I could see right between them the face of a young woman.
546
00:27:06,000 --> 00:27:08,000
She looked to be 20 maybe.
547
00:27:08,000 --> 00:27:17,000
She had a very short-length brown hair, very kind of average face. And then as she got close to me, she gave me what I would call a Mona Lisa smile.
548
00:27:17,000 --> 00:27:25,000
That little kind of half smile. Oh, my heart just jumped for joy. I was just, I felt so full of love and so happy.
549
00:27:25,000 --> 00:27:32,000
And I looked back and she wasn't there. And my feet barely touched the sidewalk because I went to my car.
550
00:27:32,000 --> 00:27:39,000
And I thought, man, I wish I could make people that happy just by smiling at them. So I finally had, of course, I couldn't forget it.
551
00:27:39,000 --> 00:27:43,000
I finally wrote the Benjamin Cremet. She was my trail.
552
00:27:43,000 --> 00:27:52,000
So, so never said a word. Just gave me that incredible blessing that that was just love and joy.
553
00:27:52,000 --> 00:27:59,000
I mean, if you feel really joy when you look at somebody and you can't explain it, you saw a master.
554
00:27:59,000 --> 00:28:09,000
So, that brings up a question. You said them. That woman was my trail, but you've mentioned the my trail as a man in outside of Rome or outside of London. Sorry.
555
00:28:09,000 --> 00:28:13,000
So, these masters are able to change their shape.
556
00:28:13,000 --> 00:28:18,000
Sure. They don't, they don't have a lot of, how do I say this?
557
00:28:18,000 --> 00:28:22,000
They are the masters of all the sciences of planet Earth.
558
00:28:22,000 --> 00:28:31,000
They're master scientists. So, they're not subject to gravity or any of the, any of the laws of science that we're aware of.
559
00:28:31,000 --> 00:28:36,000
So, they can, they can create a body by thought.
560
00:28:36,000 --> 00:28:43,000
Anyway, they want to. The body can be a young girl. It can be a, a homeless African American man, which I saw.
561
00:28:43,000 --> 00:28:47,000
They can, they can do that just.
562
00:28:47,000 --> 00:28:57,000
Let me think. Anyway, yes, they do that. And they can, they can appear just as physical shake your hand, just as solid as a regular normal person.
563
00:28:57,000 --> 00:29:04,000
And then they disappear later. You may see them disappear or you may not.
564
00:29:04,000 --> 00:29:07,000
You, you, you understand how the sounds, right?
565
00:29:07,000 --> 00:29:10,000
Yes. Yeah.
566
00:29:10,000 --> 00:29:16,000
What? How is it? I mean, they're doing this to let us know that they're there.
567
00:29:16,000 --> 00:29:22,000
To let us know that they're always with us, that we don't have to worry. They're taking care of us.
568
00:29:22,000 --> 00:29:31,000
And they're, and that they're real. And so, they're doing it with people who they hope will recognize them and right into sharing a national.
569
00:29:31,000 --> 00:29:35,000
So, that the world can hear about it, you know, because that's, that's the point, you know.
570
00:29:35,000 --> 00:29:36,000
God.
571
00:29:36,000 --> 00:29:44,000
So, yeah, I, I was at a share international booth at a, at a conference. And we had a booth for giving out information.
572
00:29:44,000 --> 00:29:51,000
And I had two things happen. One was a grandmother and her little girl came up to me.
573
00:29:51,000 --> 00:29:58,000
And they were looking at the books and they were interested in, and there's a picture of my tray as handprint.
574
00:29:58,000 --> 00:30:10,000
I don't have it here. And yeah, I do. I am. Anyway, it's, it's just a photo of my tray as handprint that he put on a mirror in the bathroom in Spain.
575
00:30:10,000 --> 00:30:16,000
And the woman wiped it off and it came back. So, she said, something's going on here, her son took a picture of it.
576
00:30:16,000 --> 00:30:22,000
He knew about Benjamin Krami, Senate to Benjamin Krem. Benjamin Krem said, this is my tray as hand.
577
00:30:22,000 --> 00:30:28,000
And my tray said, this is as close as he can get to us before he openly reveals himself.
578
00:30:28,000 --> 00:30:37,000
If you look at his hand for a few seconds, he will make any wish that you have come true as long as it's within Karmic law.
579
00:30:37,000 --> 00:30:41,000
We're going to Spain. I'm sure he's not talking about a red Chevy.
580
00:30:41,000 --> 00:30:44,000
Oh, okay. They're mine.
581
00:30:44,000 --> 00:30:49,000
But it was published in Sharon, a national magazine, and it's available online.
582
00:30:49,000 --> 00:30:53,000
You can art. It's printed on cardboard, but like that.
583
00:30:53,000 --> 00:31:03,000
And I have one hanging over my desk here. And anyway, the handprint, I gave it to her.
584
00:31:03,000 --> 00:31:09,000
And I said, the story is on the back about the woman in Spain. I said, this is the handprint of my tray.
585
00:31:09,000 --> 00:31:14,000
And she said something which I didn't understand. She was way down here and I'm way up here.
586
00:31:14,000 --> 00:31:21,000
And she had a quiet voice bent over further. And she said something. And I thought, I thought she said, is it free?
587
00:31:21,000 --> 00:31:25,000
And I said, yes, of course it's free. She went, no, no, no, no, come here.
588
00:31:25,000 --> 00:31:29,000
So I bent way down and she said, this is the hand of Christ.
589
00:31:29,000 --> 00:31:34,000
And I said, yes, how did you know that?
590
00:31:34,000 --> 00:31:38,000
Bloom the way. Well, of course I asked Benjamin Creme. She was the master of Jesus.
591
00:31:38,000 --> 00:31:44,000
Oh, Jesus. And the grandmother was a disciple of Jesus.
592
00:31:44,000 --> 00:31:47,000
Yeah. Isn't that cool? That's amazing.
593
00:31:47,000 --> 00:31:50,000
The Christ thing will confuse people. Yeah.
594
00:31:50,000 --> 00:31:59,000
My tray is the Christ for our planet. Not every planet has a Christ. Not every planet has someone that's evolved that far.
595
00:31:59,000 --> 00:32:05,000
That perfectly to become a Christ. But but people see Jesus as Christ. But he was Christ back then.
596
00:32:05,000 --> 00:32:08,000
I'll tell you why. Oh, go ahead.
597
00:32:08,000 --> 00:32:17,000
Yeah. The age old way for the masters to give out their information is through one of their very senior disciples.
598
00:32:17,000 --> 00:32:25,000
Prince, got Thomas agreed before he was born to give out the Buddha's information teachings.
599
00:32:25,000 --> 00:32:30,000
Well, then when he got, when he sat under the Bodhi tree at that point in his life, he was ready.
600
00:32:30,000 --> 00:32:38,000
And the Buddha basically overshadowed him. What that means is the Buddha put his consciousness into the consciousness of Prince, got Thomas.
601
00:32:38,000 --> 00:32:45,000
And so the prince could give out the Buddha's teachings. And he became known as gotama Buddha.
602
00:32:45,000 --> 00:32:52,000
Right. Yeah. Same thing with Jesus. Same thing with Krishna. Same thing with Confucius.
603
00:32:52,000 --> 00:33:00,000
I see. My tray overshadowed Jesus. Jesus knew what he was doing when he came with very advanced disciple, not a master yet.
604
00:33:00,000 --> 00:33:07,000
And he could have given out great teachings on his own. But he humbled himself to give out my tray as teachings.
605
00:33:07,000 --> 00:33:17,000
At the baptism at age 30, my tray overshadowed him. And for the next three years, he gave out my tray as teachings.
606
00:33:17,000 --> 00:33:23,000
Wow. And and became known as Jesus the Christ, even though he wasn't the Christ.
607
00:33:23,000 --> 00:33:30,000
And that's how the masters give out their information. Yeah. Now Jesus will be able to tell all the Christians this story.
608
00:33:30,000 --> 00:33:41,000
You know, when he comes forward, when you'll see him both on television and my tray, I will say, this is my brother, the master Jesus. Jesus will say, this is my brother, my tray, the world teacher.
609
00:33:41,000 --> 00:33:52,000
And then Jesus job is, I understand it is to get the churches back on track, the Christian churches. Now every, every major religion has lost their way.
610
00:33:52,000 --> 00:34:07,000
And too much dogma, you know, and so on. And so Jesus job, and I feel sorry for him. His job is to purify the Christian churches worldwide across the largest one is the Roman Catholic church.
611
00:34:07,000 --> 00:34:19,000
And to purify them and there'll be no more poaps. Jesus will sit at the head of the Christian church worldwide and and give out his teachings and get the church back on track.
612
00:34:19,000 --> 00:34:24,000
It's not interesting. I mean, it sounds amazing. Really? If you're a Christian, that's a great time to be alive.
613
00:34:24,000 --> 00:34:30,000
Because this is going to happen very soon. Well, I'm hoping that it does. However, me too.
614
00:34:30,000 --> 00:34:47,000
I'm a little nervous if it does at the same time, because I can only imagine that if all this is goes exactly as you mention, I can only imagine the people who are currently in power are not going to stand for it.
615
00:34:47,000 --> 00:34:59,000
And it's going to cause what we're seeing now to look like child's play. Yes. So great, great point. Here's what my dry ass says.
616
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629
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My trash says, and he's given out 140 messages through Benjamin Crem.
630
00:36:52,000 --> 00:37:02,000
A long time ago in the 70s, 77, 78. And in those messages he revealed a lot of his teachings, but by his knowledge, just a fraction.
631
00:37:02,000 --> 00:37:07,000
And one of the things he said is that it's time for the people to rule the world.
632
00:37:07,000 --> 00:37:18,000
Not the leaders. That the leaders will, the leaders will get to a point where they will only do the will of the people, because otherwise we'll vote them out.
633
00:37:18,000 --> 00:37:30,000
And he said, so he said, it's time for the people to rule the world, not the leaders. These little powerful dictators, their time is done. They just don't know it yet.
634
00:37:30,000 --> 00:37:35,000
Here's why I want, can I talk about a careerist, the age of a careerist for a minute?
635
00:37:35,000 --> 00:37:36,000
By all means, yes, of course.
636
00:37:36,000 --> 00:37:45,000
Okay, the age of a careerist has two primary energies, cooperation and synthesis.
637
00:37:45,000 --> 00:37:51,000
That's the future for humanity. We're going to work together very well cooperatively.
638
00:37:51,000 --> 00:37:55,000
What's going to happen is cooperation is going to replace competition.
639
00:37:55,000 --> 00:37:57,000
Oh, please, please, we're going to happen now.
640
00:37:57,000 --> 00:38:03,000
Yeah, I know. We're going to go from a you or me world to a you and me world.
641
00:38:03,000 --> 00:38:08,000
We're going to treat each other like the souls, living souls that we are.
642
00:38:08,000 --> 00:38:16,000
We're going to treat each other like brothers and sisters of one God, which we are. One God, many names, one God.
643
00:38:16,000 --> 00:38:26,000
And so here's the deal about the age of a careerist. Every time there's a new age, we are sent a great teacher to bring the teachings to humanity for that age.
644
00:38:26,000 --> 00:38:32,000
Two thousand years ago, we were lucky enough to get two great teachers, the Buddha and Jesus.
645
00:38:32,000 --> 00:38:37,000
Buddha taught the wisdom of God, Jesus taught the love of God.
646
00:38:37,000 --> 00:38:43,000
They were the teachers, especially primarily Jesus, the teacher for the age of Pisces.
647
00:38:43,000 --> 00:38:45,000
You know, what's the symbol for Pisces?
648
00:38:45,000 --> 00:38:46,000
The fish.
649
00:38:46,000 --> 00:38:47,000
A fish.
650
00:38:47,000 --> 00:38:51,000
He fed the crowd with fish. He said, "I'll make you fishers of men."
651
00:38:51,000 --> 00:38:54,000
There's all these fish analogies. There's two symbols for Christianity.
652
00:38:54,000 --> 00:38:59,000
Yeah, cross and the fish. Most Christians can't tell you why the fish.
653
00:38:59,000 --> 00:39:03,000
That's because he was the teacher for the age of Pisces. And he knew that.
654
00:39:03,000 --> 00:39:10,000
Yeah. Now it's a curious and we get a teacher for this age who is my trayah.
655
00:39:10,000 --> 00:39:19,000
Buddha taught the wisdom of God. Jesus taught the love of God. My trayah comes to teach the will of God and the purpose behind that will.
656
00:39:19,000 --> 00:39:26,000
So all of us that have been trying to do God's will are finally going to find out what it is.
657
00:39:26,000 --> 00:39:31,000
I don't know what the confusion is. I am right here.
658
00:39:31,000 --> 00:39:34,000
Where does the will?
659
00:39:34,000 --> 00:39:39,000
It's a related but not related question.
660
00:39:39,000 --> 00:39:46,000
So humanity is going to go through this change and we're going to become more perfect or perfect or better.
661
00:39:46,000 --> 00:39:54,000
But what we have done to this planet that we're on is disastrous.
662
00:39:54,000 --> 00:40:01,000
Will the planet survive? Is that going to get better also to be able to maintain people that are also better?
663
00:40:01,000 --> 00:40:04,000
My trayah has said it will.
664
00:40:04,000 --> 00:40:10,000
But the question is, how many species will we kill through pollution before?
665
00:40:10,000 --> 00:40:18,000
I mean, that will just end their life on the planet forever before we do. And how many humans will we kill through this pollution?
666
00:40:18,000 --> 00:40:30,000
I was doing a booth at another convention and a young black man, he looked to be about 28, 30, walked up to the booth,
667
00:40:30,000 --> 00:40:40,000
tennis shoes, blue jeans, shirt, and started talking to me about pollution. And he said, it's over.
668
00:40:40,000 --> 00:40:46,000
It's over. We're killing this planet and everything on it. And I said, no, no, no, we have time.
669
00:40:46,000 --> 00:40:54,000
We have time if we work hard. And he said, he said, well, I can't. But you can. I'm the observer.
670
00:40:54,000 --> 00:41:04,000
And I thought master, right away. And he said, we have to turn it around. The scientists are right. Everybody else is wrong.
671
00:41:04,000 --> 00:41:10,000
We have to turn it around now. And he used the quote, it's now or never.
672
00:41:10,000 --> 00:41:15,000
And I wrote that. That's how urgent the climate crisis is in the past.
673
00:41:15,000 --> 00:41:22,000
And I wrote that letter to Benjamin Creme and it appeared in Sharon, a national magazine with a big headline that said it's now or never.
674
00:41:22,000 --> 00:41:28,000
No, never. That's excellent. Yeah. Yeah. So he said, so we have to get to it right away.
675
00:41:28,000 --> 00:41:34,000
The biggest pollution, the biggest pollution right now, I mean, everything's polluted.
676
00:41:34,000 --> 00:41:42,000
The ground, the water, the air, all that. But the biggest pollution that we don't even know about is nuclear pollution.
677
00:41:42,000 --> 00:41:50,000
The nuclear energy is so high, some of it, the worst part of it, that our crude instruments can't measure it.
678
00:41:50,000 --> 00:42:00,000
And it is spewing out of all of these nuclear reactors, out into the air and into the ground and into the water and and harming humanity.
679
00:42:00,000 --> 00:42:08,000
It's two biggest effects that it's creating are earlier and earlier onset of Alzheimer's.
680
00:42:08,000 --> 00:42:16,000
And a much higher percentage of autistic children being born. It used to be one in 80 and now one in 800.
681
00:42:16,000 --> 00:42:21,000
Now it's like 180. Autistic children and it's nuclear pollution and we don't even know about it.
682
00:42:21,000 --> 00:42:26,000
So the masters are going to tell us we need to shut these things down right away.
683
00:42:26,000 --> 00:42:32,000
And hopefully, you know, we'll respond and do it. That's the biggest and most harmful pollution.
684
00:42:32,000 --> 00:42:37,000
But there's all kinds of it. Yeah. So I can totally see how you've gone for two hours on conversation.
685
00:42:37,000 --> 00:42:43,000
I can talk to you for a long time. A couple of things come to mind. And I just wanted to touch on a couple of them.
686
00:42:43,000 --> 00:42:50,000
First, I need to ask you a question, Karen. Do you think you've run into any masters?
687
00:42:50,000 --> 00:42:59,000
I don't know. I don't know. I think I have. Yeah.
688
00:42:59,000 --> 00:43:03,000
Remember that story I'd say all the time about the mountain of God? Yeah.
689
00:43:03,000 --> 00:43:08,000
Remember I told you about that guy who was in his late 20s early 30s?
690
00:43:08,000 --> 00:43:16,000
No, I wasn't told to me by Larry. Oh, that was told to me by some random guy that they saw after.
691
00:43:16,000 --> 00:43:24,000
Really? Yes. I met this man who I used to go to a metaphysical bookstore and I ran into him one time.
692
00:43:24,000 --> 00:43:29,000
And he was the most grounded. The energy coming off him was just unbelievable.
693
00:43:29,000 --> 00:43:33,000
And I just said, how is it that you can stay so grounded?
694
00:43:33,000 --> 00:43:38,000
How is it that you can live your life this way? And he says, let me tell you a story.
695
00:43:38,000 --> 00:43:43,000
And he told me the story of the mountain of God. The story that I've told in the show many times.
696
00:43:43,000 --> 00:43:45,000
But I'll try to go really quickly just for your benefit.
697
00:43:45,000 --> 00:43:49,000
God was standing on his mountain of truth one day. And he's looking down in the world.
698
00:43:49,000 --> 00:43:54,000
And he's really happy what he sees. So he goes into take a closer look, but as he does, he loses his footing.
699
00:43:54,000 --> 00:44:00,000
And he stumbles back. And as he does, a couple of pebbles get dislodged from the mountain of truth and fall down onto the world.
700
00:44:00,000 --> 00:44:07,000
And he looks down and goes, oh, what have I done? And as he looks, he sees all the people from the world running to these pebbles,
701
00:44:07,000 --> 00:44:13,000
raising the pebbles over their heads and crying out, I have the truth.
702
00:44:13,000 --> 00:44:17,000
Well, in essence, all they have is a little pebble from the mountain of truth.
703
00:44:17,000 --> 00:44:21,000
He's the guy who told me that story. And I never saw him again afterwards.
704
00:44:21,000 --> 00:44:24,000
Where did you see him? At the metaphysical bookstore, right?
705
00:44:24,000 --> 00:44:29,000
I was studying all my... That's the kind of story I'm master would tell.
706
00:44:29,000 --> 00:44:34,000
You think, right? I'm sure. So I think, I mean, whoa.
707
00:44:34,000 --> 00:44:38,000
Yeah. How cool would that be? Anyway, I digress.
708
00:44:38,000 --> 00:44:43,000
Well, he probably knew you were going to do this interview with me many, many years later.
709
00:44:43,000 --> 00:44:46,000
Oh, I'm dead serious. Absolutely. Yeah.
710
00:44:46,000 --> 00:44:49,000
And then you could tell me and I could confirm it.
711
00:44:49,000 --> 00:44:53,000
Okay. So I need to send a letter to Mr. Kremman.
712
00:44:53,000 --> 00:44:59,000
Mr. Kremman, see if he identifies the master in it?
713
00:44:59,000 --> 00:45:02,000
You can't. He passed away. Oh, he passed away.
714
00:45:02,000 --> 00:45:07,000
Yeah. But I'll tell you, there's just a really like 95% chance that was a master.
715
00:45:07,000 --> 00:45:10,000
Yeah. I'll take those odds. Yeah.
716
00:45:10,000 --> 00:45:14,000
Oh, yeah. That's pretty cool. Yeah.
717
00:45:14,000 --> 00:45:19,000
I saw a man and there's a homestry that used to live in this park near where we lived in Pasadena.
718
00:45:19,000 --> 00:45:25,000
And I used to go and give him money every Saturday. He'd be there. And I went down one Saturday and he wasn't there.
719
00:45:25,000 --> 00:45:33,000
It was right before Christmas and my mom, I loved her Christmas cookies and she baked some Christmas cookies in Minnesota and sent them to me.
720
00:45:33,000 --> 00:45:39,000
And so I put a little, some of them together in a little coffee can in the days when there were coffee cans.
721
00:45:39,000 --> 00:45:47,000
And went out to the park to give to this guy and he wasn't there. And I saw a homeless man over there sorting his clothes out of a,
722
00:45:47,000 --> 00:45:57,000
shopping cart onto the park bench and flattening them out. And I went over there. He had a light brown beard and mustache.
723
00:45:57,000 --> 00:46:01,000
Real, really, really complexion looked like homeless guy, you know.
724
00:46:01,000 --> 00:46:10,000
And I said that they sometimes call themselves campers. I heard that. So I said, "Hi, are you a camper?" And he said, "Well, you could say that."
725
00:46:10,000 --> 00:46:20,000
And I said, "Well, I got these cookies from my mother and I just want you to have them." And he said, "Oh, they're from your mother, I'm sure they're very good."
726
00:46:20,000 --> 00:46:28,000
And I said, "Thank you." And I said, "You're welcome." And I went back home. I could not get that guy out of my mind to save my neck.
727
00:46:28,000 --> 00:46:41,000
I finally wrote the Benjamin Crab, it was the Master Jesus. So you just never know. So I really, really, really want to believe that this stuff is all real, right?
728
00:46:41,000 --> 00:46:50,000
That this is, this is, this is finally, yes, we have hope it's coming. First of all, it's not fast enough for my taste, but okay, whatever.
729
00:46:50,000 --> 00:47:02,000
For anybody's. But Dick, you started telling us how you were so sure that this stuff is real and we got distracted. So I apologize for that.
730
00:47:02,000 --> 00:47:08,000
So can you tell me again, how do you know for sure this is, this is legitimate?
731
00:47:08,000 --> 00:47:18,000
I know because I know. I mean, in my heart of hearts, I know it's true. I've studied it long enough.
732
00:47:18,000 --> 00:47:30,000
I've had Master experiences, which I don't doubt for a second. They were, they were clearly unusual and special. I have friends who've had Master experiences.
733
00:47:30,000 --> 00:47:39,000
I have been exposed to Benjamin Crab, many, many, many, many times and were meditated with him and talked with him so many times.
734
00:47:39,000 --> 00:47:51,000
I mean, the guy just oozes the truth and and it just the biggest part of it was it made sense to me.
735
00:47:51,000 --> 00:48:08,000
It just makes sense that we're not here for nothing. We're not here for no reason at all. Mark Twain said, "The two most important days of your life are the day you were born and the day you found out why."
736
00:48:08,000 --> 00:48:20,000
I like that. We're going to find out why because what God's will is. My prayer is going to teach us that. His first four priorities are real basic stuff.
737
00:48:20,000 --> 00:48:31,000
Food for everybody, housing for everybody, healthcare for everybody, and education for everybody as human rights, free of charge, human rights.
738
00:48:31,000 --> 00:48:41,000
Those are already in the UN's declaration in the United Nations. But those are his first four priorities that in the environment are his first four priorities.
739
00:48:41,000 --> 00:48:50,000
So real basic stuff. I mean, he's not coming to do magic tricks and stuff. He's coming to teach us how to clean up the mess we made. Now, here's the thing.
740
00:48:50,000 --> 00:49:11,000
There are two great laws. There are more than two. There's a whole bunch of them. A two of the greatest laws of God of the spiritual universe are the law of cause and effect in the East. They call it karma in the West. We call it cause and effect for for every effect. There's a cause.
741
00:49:11,000 --> 00:49:20,000
Scientists call it the law of action and reaction for every action. There's an equaler. Jesus taught it. He said, "As you sow, sow, sow, sow your reap."
742
00:49:20,000 --> 00:49:33,000
It was so simple. People just overlook it. They don't even think about it. It's one of the major laws of life. If you don't want people to cut your off in traffic, don't cut anybody off. That's exactly how it works.
743
00:49:33,000 --> 00:49:49,000
It's exactly how it works. I mean, I've seen that work out of my life so many times. And so that law of cause and effect, I forgot what I was going to say.
744
00:49:49,000 --> 00:49:58,000
I'm sorry. That's okay. I'll drop it and it pointing here again. Also, the other law is rebirth. The law of reincarnation.
745
00:49:58,000 --> 00:50:10,000
Our soul is permanent and it comes back and takes bodies in the womb. It attaches to a body and then it lives that lifetime.
746
00:50:10,000 --> 00:50:20,000
And then it detaches when that body dies and it waits. It goes into the spiritual kingdom and learns lessons from that lifetime.
747
00:50:20,000 --> 00:50:34,000
That's how the judgment day is us judging ourselves. We go, "Oh, I really screwed up there." That really bothered. And you see the ripple effect of what you did. Good or bad. And you learn from it.
748
00:50:34,000 --> 00:50:42,000
So then we go to this little school called the day of judgment and then we come back and attach to another body. Here's the trick.
749
00:50:42,000 --> 00:50:54,000
The soul remembers where we left off in our last lifetime. So we always pick up where we left off in every lifetime. So we're constantly moving up, evolving.
750
00:50:54,000 --> 00:51:00,000
Now you can take a lifetime and just coast if you want to. You don't have to learn anything or spiritual or anything.
751
00:51:00,000 --> 00:51:02,000
I know people like that.
752
00:51:02,000 --> 00:51:14,000
Yeah, and some people don't seem that spiritual. But it's likely the people that never have anything bad happen to them. It's likely their previous life was a mess.
753
00:51:14,000 --> 00:51:24,000
They were either handicapped or they were murdered or something that really burned up a ton of karma. So in this lifetime they're just kind of teflon.
754
00:51:24,000 --> 00:51:30,000
They just kind of float right through. That's how it works. How is it an effect?
755
00:51:30,000 --> 00:51:44,000
So then what? Why all the strife then? Why do we have to get to the point that we are at each other's throats before my tray of steps in?
756
00:51:44,000 --> 00:51:54,000
Well, we don't have to be at each other's throats before he steps in. But we're going to be.
757
00:51:54,000 --> 00:52:06,000
And this separation shows us clearly that the way we have set up life isn't working. It's not working and we need changes.
758
00:52:06,000 --> 00:52:16,000
Now the young people see that. They can't wait for change. They see the need immediately. The older folks, especially in finance and religion, don't want anything to change.
759
00:52:16,000 --> 00:52:24,000
It is. And healthcare. Yeah. There are so many aspects of life. See, we have forgotten that every aspect of life is spiritual.
760
00:52:24,000 --> 00:52:32,000
My tray and the magic come. Yeah. Come to remind us. Even money is a great spiritual tool if it's your life.
761
00:52:32,000 --> 00:52:34,000
Yeah, absolutely. It's a energy exchange. Absolutely.
762
00:52:34,000 --> 00:52:46,000
Sciences, healthcare, education, family, every aspect of life, the arts can be spiritual should be an expression of our spirituality.
763
00:52:46,000 --> 00:53:00,000
We are all innately spiritual, but we've forgotten who we are. And my tray and the masters have come to remind us that we're not humans having spiritual experiences where spirits having a human experience.
764
00:53:00,000 --> 00:53:12,000
There's a big difference. And so that's what the masters are coming to teach. They're coming to teach us self realization who we really are.
765
00:53:12,000 --> 00:53:20,000
And once we are convinced by our own experience of who we really are, we will start to act more and more that way.
766
00:53:20,000 --> 00:53:30,000
We will start to look to line up our will with God's will in our actions. You know, you can believe all the stuff you want to believe, but it's how you act in the world that tells the story.
767
00:53:30,000 --> 00:53:40,000
Yeah. You know, you can have a tremendous amount of love in your heart, but if you don't act with love, if you don't serve others, by the way, that's how we serve God by serving others.
768
00:53:40,000 --> 00:53:52,000
And that's, churches were set up to make that easy. But in churches, we see each other all the time and we can serve each other. And that's how we serve God.
769
00:53:52,000 --> 00:54:04,000
So when we start to see that we're all brothers and sisters, that we're all the same, that we all have souls, that skin color means nothing, that religion means very little in terms of separation.
770
00:54:04,000 --> 00:54:14,000
That we're just children of one father, you know, or mother or it, whatever you want to call God makes no difference. God doesn't care.
771
00:54:14,000 --> 00:54:20,000
I'm an ungood, I'm an ungood authority. God doesn't care.
772
00:54:20,000 --> 00:54:28,000
There are no sexes. Now the masters that are coming forward now are all male. And then male bodies. And there's a reason for that.
773
00:54:28,000 --> 00:54:47,000
This is the age of Tara. This is the age of female energy. The nurturing aspect of God, the mother aspect of God. This, that's this age. So there's tremendous female nurturing mother energy now.
774
00:54:47,000 --> 00:54:58,000
And the male masters come to offset that to balance it. The first master that comes in a physical body as a woman will be the master who was married the mother of Jesus.
775
00:54:58,000 --> 00:55:01,000
Joan of Arc is also one of the great masters.
776
00:55:01,000 --> 00:55:08,000
Wow. Okay. So my question was going to be when we're in the age of Pisces where it's all super male dominated.
777
00:55:08,000 --> 00:55:19,000
Yes. It feels like it was all male masters too, right? Buddha, Jesus, we talked about just over the past hour, the other male. So are we missing something?
778
00:55:19,000 --> 00:55:33,000
No, not at all. It's a balancing, it's a balancing act that the that the masters know that we don't know. The masters are behind women's, the women's equality and the whole, all the women's movements.
779
00:55:33,000 --> 00:55:46,000
The masters are the energy behind that. They see us as totally equal regardless of sex. That that sex makes no difference. We're all the same. The masters are behind that.
780
00:55:46,000 --> 00:56:01,000
I want to finish if I made the thing about Aquarius. Of course. Yes. Sorry. Okay. This, this thing about the ages is actually scientific. It's not astrology designed for entertainment and newspapers and magazines. It's astronomy.
781
00:56:01,000 --> 00:56:11,000
Our solar system and consequently our earth is surrounded by 12 huge constellations. We call them the zodiac.
782
00:56:11,000 --> 00:56:24,000
And those constellations are in terms of earth's evolution about 2,000, 2,250 years apart. They're not all the same distance apart.
783
00:56:24,000 --> 00:56:37,000
But when we come into alignment, one at a time, we come into alignment with one of these great powerful energies and they have tremendous energy and they pour it into the planet.
784
00:56:37,000 --> 00:56:46,000
They're designed to help us evolve the two primary energies for the last 2,000 years. We have been in the age of Pisces.
785
00:56:46,000 --> 00:56:57,000
So these great constellations have tremendous energy and when we come into alignment with one of them, it's like a door opens and we can receive that energy.
786
00:56:57,000 --> 00:57:05,000
And it's done for the purpose of earth's evolution and the evolution of our whole solar system. You know, everything's a unit.
787
00:57:05,000 --> 00:57:17,000
The planet is a unit. The solar system is a unit. The constellation were in, what's our constellation?
788
00:57:17,000 --> 00:57:19,000
The Milky Way.
789
00:57:19,000 --> 00:57:23,000
The galaxy is Milky Way.
790
00:57:23,000 --> 00:57:27,000
The galaxy, I'm sorry. Yeah, the Milky Way. Yeah, exactly. That's a unit.
791
00:57:27,000 --> 00:57:36,000
So any part of it that gets behind slows down the evolution of everybody else. And that's what earth is doing right now.
792
00:57:36,000 --> 00:57:42,000
And that's why this, that's why all these aliens are on here saying, hey, wake up. Come on. You're holding everybody up.
793
00:57:42,000 --> 00:57:49,000
Yeah, because we can't answer or starvation. And we are holding back the evolution of the entire solar system.
794
00:57:49,000 --> 00:57:57,000
So we're getting, it's time we get help, you know, yeah. So you just answered a question to have for a lot of people. Why?
795
00:57:57,000 --> 00:58:03,000
Why do aliens or spirit guides, whatever? Why do they go to such effort to try to help us?
796
00:58:03,000 --> 00:58:07,000
It's because we're the, we're the stragglers. We're the blockage.
797
00:58:07,000 --> 00:58:11,000
Wow. They're, they're plunging, plunging us.
798
00:58:11,000 --> 00:58:16,000
Yeah, most of the time we have asked them for help. Our spiritual kingdom goes to the spiritual kingdom.
799
00:58:16,000 --> 00:58:22,000
Most of the UFOs are from Mars and Venus and our neighbors, which makes sense.
800
00:58:22,000 --> 00:58:32,000
And that our spiritual kingdom has gone to theirs and said, please help us restore earth's evolutionary process.
801
00:58:32,000 --> 00:58:41,000
So one of the things they have are huge motherships up there that are doing nothing but mopping up pollution 24 hours a day to keep, to keep our planet alive.
802
00:58:41,000 --> 00:58:47,000
And they're not going to get my huge, carmic debt. Now they can't mop it all up because it's not their mess. The law of cause and effect.
803
00:58:47,000 --> 00:58:50,000
We made the mess. We have to clean it up.
804
00:58:50,000 --> 00:58:53,000
Okay. So I can talk to you about space people all day long.
805
00:58:53,000 --> 00:58:56,000
Right. You know, it's just going to say you're going down to another rabbit boy.
806
00:58:56,000 --> 00:59:00,000
I totally want to talk to you about too, but we're comfortable with you. Sure. On times.
807
00:59:00,000 --> 00:59:02,000
Well, please go ahead and finish your program.
808
00:59:02,000 --> 00:59:06,000
I'm worked with them. And so he knows a lot about them.
809
00:59:06,000 --> 00:59:10,000
So if you want to do another show sometime on the UFOs, I'd be happy to do it.
810
00:59:10,000 --> 00:59:14,000
We absolutely have to. Why they're here and what their main purposes are and so on.
811
00:59:14,000 --> 00:59:16,000
Oh, yeah, where they come from. Yeah.
812
00:59:16,000 --> 00:59:18,000
Okay. So cliffhanger.
813
00:59:18,000 --> 00:59:25,000
So these energies pound into planet earth to help with our evolution.
814
00:59:25,000 --> 00:59:32,000
The two primary energies of Pisces are individuality and dedication to an ideal.
815
00:59:32,000 --> 00:59:37,000
Man has come out of the herd. We stand as powerful individuals on our own on our own now.
816
00:59:37,000 --> 00:59:43,000
And the dedication to the ideal of freedom saved the world in World War One and World War Two.
817
00:59:43,000 --> 00:59:50,000
So Pisces has served its purpose. Now if you talk to an astronomer, they call it the change of the ages.
818
00:59:50,000 --> 00:59:54,000
They call that the precession of the equinox.
819
00:59:54,000 --> 00:59:59,000
That's that's their term for it. But it's the same thing in 1625.
820
00:59:59,000 --> 01:00:03,000
We started moving out of the influence of Pisces.
821
01:00:03,000 --> 01:00:08,000
And in 1675, we started moving into the influence of Aquarius.
822
01:00:08,000 --> 01:00:12,000
The next constellation goes backwards from the astrology.
823
01:00:12,000 --> 01:00:18,000
And so now we're receiving these tremendous aquarium energies, which are very different.
824
01:00:18,000 --> 01:00:25,000
The two primary energies of Aquarius are cooperation and synthesis.
825
01:00:25,000 --> 01:00:28,000
So these here's how the evolution works.
826
01:00:28,000 --> 01:00:36,000
These powerful individuals built under Pisces are now going to learn how to work together cooperatively under Aquarius.
827
01:00:36,000 --> 01:00:42,000
You see it all makes sense. That's why I said it just makes too much sense not to believe it.
828
01:00:42,000 --> 01:00:44,000
That'd be true. Right. Yeah.
829
01:00:44,000 --> 01:00:46,000
So here's the thing.
830
01:00:46,000 --> 01:00:50,000
The energies that we are getting now are not supporting individuals at all.
831
01:00:50,000 --> 01:00:55,000
That's why I said earlier, these little dictators, their time is over. They just don't know it yet.
832
01:00:55,000 --> 01:01:03,000
What's going to happen is Aquarius energy only supports groups in action, groups.
833
01:01:03,000 --> 01:01:07,000
That's why people marching in the streets could save our health care.
834
01:01:07,000 --> 01:01:10,000
Very bad. All that Aquarius energy behind them.
835
01:01:10,000 --> 01:01:17,000
So Aquarius energy is going to change the world and the people of the world are going to run the world.
836
01:01:17,000 --> 01:01:24,000
And Benjamin comes master even when so far as to say that the president of the United States will no longer be one person.
837
01:01:24,000 --> 01:01:27,000
It will be a panel of wise people.
838
01:01:27,000 --> 01:01:31,000
It will be interesting. It will be a group.
839
01:01:31,000 --> 01:01:34,000
Yeah, because that's what Aquarius energy supports.
840
01:01:34,000 --> 01:01:42,000
So now what we're seeing is the death of one civilization and all the agony that goes with that nothing works.
841
01:01:42,000 --> 01:01:45,000
Health care doesn't work. Education doesn't work.
842
01:01:45,000 --> 01:01:48,000
Governments don't support the people. Nothing is working.
843
01:01:48,000 --> 01:01:55,000
All these institutions that were built under Pisces, Pisces in energy is being withdrawn.
844
01:01:55,000 --> 01:02:01,000
They're collapsing. These institutions are collapsing. There's nothing we can do to save them.
845
01:02:01,000 --> 01:02:06,000
Except rebuild them with the aquarium energies of cooperation.
846
01:02:06,000 --> 01:02:13,000
And once we rebuild these entities, these great institutions, they will serve humanity for another 2,000 years.
847
01:02:13,000 --> 01:02:18,000
But that's what's coming. And a lot of people are going to be scared to death because they're going to say,
848
01:02:18,000 --> 01:02:23,000
"What are you going to make all these changes in the government? You're going to make all these changes in health care?"
849
01:02:23,000 --> 01:02:27,000
And the answer is yes.
850
01:02:27,000 --> 01:02:32,000
The thing is, it needs to kind of go slowly so that people can accept it.
851
01:02:32,000 --> 01:02:36,000
Because people don't accept it. The vast majority people don't accept the change.
852
01:02:36,000 --> 01:02:40,000
Then it will fall away. It won't last.
853
01:02:40,000 --> 01:02:44,000
So there's a danger of that then. Yes. It needs to be.
854
01:02:44,000 --> 01:02:47,000
Danger of it not working. It's happening too fast.
855
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And then you've got to start over.
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Okay.
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And the masters will help us with that. Listen, there'll be a master in every aspect of life.
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There'll be a master giving us advice in the arts, in politics and government, in science, in education, in health care.
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There'll be a master in every aspect of life that will be giving in religion.
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Every major religion will have its own master.
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And they will give us suggestions and then we can either follow them or not.
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We have free will. This is so important. We have free will.
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It's sacred. The masters would never infringe our free will by forcing us to do something or telling us to do something.
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They will only suggest their teachers. And so our free will, like I said, is sacred.
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That's why is it sacred? Because that's how we learn and grow.
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We make a choice. The goal is to always choose right. The goal is to learn from every choice.
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You go, "Whoa, that didn't work. I'm not going to do that again."
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That's what sociologists do. I'm a sociologist. That's my degree.
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Oh, okay.
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So, sociologists study things with a hypothesis and then they find out, "No, that didn't work."
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Okay, well, that puts up a big sign there for all the other sociologists to say, "Don't go down this path. There's nothing there."
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So that's the goal. Even if we choose wrong, we learn from it. That's why we have free will.
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I'm afraid that's what the aliens are doing. They put a sign up and saying, "Don't go there. There's nothing there."
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"Don't go there."
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We are leaving so much meat on this bone, but for the new reality TV yells at me when we come in over an hour.
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So we're going to have to cut it short. However, I would definitely invite all those that are listening or watching to reach out to you or to learn more about you.
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So what is the best or about shared international? What is the best way for someone to do that?
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Sure. We have a great website that's got video on it, audio. It's got all kinds of stories, all kinds of background on the
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Ageless Wisdom teachings, and there are more than one website, but the website I'm going to give out is the one in the US.
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This is Share, SHRE, hyphen, that's a dash. International, all spelled out, .us. Share, dash, international, .us.
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And you can click through to the worldwide website from there too if you choose to go further.
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That's a great, great website, and I want to give you a quote from my trayya to end.
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Wonderful.
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The Royal Road to Spiritual Growth, according to the Ageless Wisdom, is Meditation and Service.
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Okay, my trayya says, make sure that not one day passes without some act of true service and be assured that my help will be yours.
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Isn't that beautiful?
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That is wonderful.
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That's a great way to end the show.
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Dick, this has been absolutely fascinating. The time went by so quickly. We're so grateful for you to come and talk to us and give us hope in this crazy world that we're living in.
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And we definitely looking forward to part two, what we talk about all the UFO.
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Thank you. There is hope. It's a great time to be alive. We're going to see wonderful changes.
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Awesome. Come on, my trayya.
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All right. Thanks so much, you guys.
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Well, that does it for this episode of the Skeptic Manifestions. Thank you for taking the time to listen to this show.
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Benjamin Creme books
Dick Larson is a retired counselor with a background in business and education who addresses the issues of practical spirituality and meditation. Dick is also a long-time student of the Ageless Wisdom and a volunteer for Share International, a non-profit educational organization. He is a frequent guest on radio talk shows nationwide.
Mr. Larson shares his strong convictions that despite today’s tremendous problems, we are now in a very special time of world change which offers great opportunities for personal growth and hope for the future.































