One Truth, Many Paths: Our Soul Awakening with Kara Goodwin
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What happens when two spiritual explorers known for their curiosity and discernment get interviewed themselves?
 
In this special crossover episode, The Skeptic Metaphysicians, Will and Karen, take a turn in the guest seat on Soul Elevation with Kara Goodwin. It’s a beautifully candid conversation that dives deep into their personal awakenings, unexpected metaphysical experiences (wait till you hear about “the nut”), and the power of spiritual discernment in a world full of noise.
 
Why are we sharing this? Because Kara Goodwin, the brilliant host of Soul Elevation, is our next guest on The Skeptic Metaphysicians! So before we flip the mic on her, we’re giving you a front-row seat to the heart-expanding chat we had on her show.

What You’ll Discover:

  • Why “One Truth, Many Paths” is more than just a motto; it’s a spiritual compass.
  • The difference between healthy skepticism and spiritual cynicism.
  • How Karen’s lifelong intuitive connection, and a ghost, saved her life.
  • Will’s turning point from existential crisis to metaphysical mission.
  • The mind-bending “missing nut” story that defies explanation (you’ll never see timelines the same way again).
  • A spontaneous timeline jump… involving a milk carton?!
  • Why discernment is crucial when exploring spiritual teachers and modalities.
  • How New Reality TV is reshaping conscious media without fear, politics, or divisiveness.
Quotable Moments:
“If you think the world is a non-magical place… it absolutely will be.” – Will

“All these people are saying the same thing in different languages; love, light, community.” – Karen

“We’re not skeptics anymore...but our audience is. That’s who we’re here to serve.” – Will

“It wasn’t fear… it was a ghost who literally saved my life.” – Karen

“Discernment, not cynicism. That’s the real spiritual tool.” – Kara

Don’t Miss:
This conversation also previews the mission behind NewRealityTV.com, your new conscious content home featuring 40+ shows, each with dozens of episodes, meditations, and activations from spiritual leaders around the world; no fear-mongering, no politics, just high-frequency content. 

Learn more at: NewRealityTV.com
Catch Kara’s podcast: Soul Elevation with Kara Goodwin
Listen to our main show: The Skeptic Metaphysicians

This episode is perfect for:
  • Seekers navigating spiritual awakening with healthy skepticism
  • Anyone who’s been burned by “guru culture” and is craving authenticity
  • Listeners curious about timeline shifts, energy work, and real-life magic
  • Fans of Kara Goodwin’s soothing, insightful style
Stay tuned...next up, we interview Kara, and trust us… you’ll want to catch that one.


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Hey there, it's Will. I'm glad that you're here. This

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episode is a little bit different. It's actually a feed

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drop from another show that we were on. Kara Goodwin

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hosts the show Soul Elevation, and we are about to

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release her interview here our next premiere release on Wednesday.

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In the meantime, we wanted to give you a glimpse

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into what the conversation was when we were guests on

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her show, so we're releasing the full episode of her

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show here now for you so that you can get

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a taste for what awaits you on our next new release.

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I hope you enjoy listening to it as much as

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Karen and I enjoyed being on it. She's really wonderful

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and we think you would like it. Without further ado,

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here is Soul Elevation with Kara Goodwin with special guests

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Karen and I.

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Welcome to Soul Elevation, Guiding your Sension to New Heights.

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I'm your host, Kara Goodwin. I'm so excited for you

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to dive into this episode. With the hosts of the

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popular Skeptic Metaphysicians podcast, Will Rodriguez and Karen Ensley, they

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have some great stories to share about the mysteries they've

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experienced since their spiritual awakening and the role of skepticism

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and discernment. You're going to be inspired, odd and even

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get some laughs from this episode. Will and Karen are

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the dynamic duo behind the Skeptic Metaphysicians podcast, where spiritual

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seekers and curious skeptics alike come to explore the mysteries

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of consciousness. Will a self described metaphysical maverick, brings curiosity, humor,

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and visionary drive to every episode, guiding listeners through topics

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like energy healing, near death experiences, and esoteric wisdom, and

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Karen balances ride with her intuitive insight, grounded discernment, and

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heart centered presence, making even the most far out ideas

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feel relatable. Together, they ask the big questions, challenge assumptions,

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and invite us all to explore one truth many paths.

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Their warm, witty chemistry has made their show a go

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to for spiritual exploration and soul substance, and it's safe

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to say that if you love the Soul Elevation podcast,

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you're going to love their podcast too. So we'll get

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started in just a moment, but first, please be sure

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to check out all the great resources at Karagodwin dot com.

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You can find out about my new book, You're Authentic Awakening.

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I have free meditations. Under the free resources section, you

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can learn to meditate, get your own personalized meditation, and

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sign up for my upcoming online summit. I have so

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many ways for you to nurture your spiritual evolution. And

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if you're loving the podcast, it would really mean so

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much if you send it along to others, scribe, and review.

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I'd really appreciate your support and now enjoy this episode.

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By the way, I'm not sure if you're aware, but

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congratulations making the top one hundred spiritual podcasts on one

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million podcasts. I'm not sure if you know about that

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or not.

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I don't know where did you see that?

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Actually? On Twitter?

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They actually they posted the link to it, and I

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went to go see keep my fingers crossed, and sure

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enough we were there, but so were you. So it

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was nice to great, nice to see familiar face.

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Well, thank you, congratulations to you too.

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Thank you. That was not a fishing for compliment moment,

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I promised, of course.

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But where when did that come out? Was that a

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Yesterday? Actually?

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Okay, well then, yeah, I definitely haven't heard that. So well,

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that's awesome. I'll have to look into what was the source.

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Again, one million podcasts. I'll send you the link you have.

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It, Okay, thank you, Okay, Well, welcome Bill and Karen.

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I'm so excited to have you here. Thank you so

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much for being here today.

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Thanks for the invitation. We're thrilled to be on your show, absolutely, and.

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I can't wait to come on yours too. We're going

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to do a little pod swap which is going to

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be awesome.

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Yeah, so you have to tune in for part two

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later on in our show.

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That's right. So I want to start by exploring the

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one truth minipaths philosophy, which resonates so deeply with me. Also,

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but I know that this is kind of the foundation

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that your mission is built upon. So tell us what

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this means and how it informs your work and passion

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through the Skeptic Metaphysicians podcast and New Reality TV.

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Sure, just just what it sounds like. To give you

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a little bit of a background. Before I dove into

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this world, I was very much one of those guys

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that knew exactly the truth of life in every single

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way and everything outside of that scope was absolutely wrong.

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How could they possibly tool? I, like many people, had

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a existential crisis right during COVID and realized what am

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I doing? So we started doing the skeptic betemosicians because

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I was seeking to find I look myself in the mirror,

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did not like what I saw, didn't like how judgmental

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I was, how angry it was all the time. So

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it was a It was an attempt for me to

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wrap my head around what is the truth? I figured

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if I talked enough people, the truth will emerge.

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I have a one of my favorite stories that that

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I learned a while back. If you don't mind, I'd

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love to share it with you in your audience right now.

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One day God was standing on his mountain of Truth

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and he was looking down in the world, and he

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likes what he sees, so he leans over a little

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bit to get a closer look. But as he does so,

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he loses his footing on the mountain of truth, and

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as he scrambles to catch his footing, a few pebbles

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from the mountain of truth fall down onto the world,

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and he goes oh. And he looks over the edge

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to see what just happened, and as he's looking, he

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sees all the people from the world running grabbing these pebbles,

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raising them over their heads and exclaiming, I have the truth,

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when in essence, all they had was one of the

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little pebbles from the mountain of truth. So when I

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realized that this was the reality of it all, suddenly

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it opened up everything.

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And we really saw that reflected in all of the

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interviews that we've had, because we've had a few hundred,

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and we have interviewed some incredible people and so many

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different modalities. We are still learning about new ones that

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we had no idea existed. But there is a very

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central theme or message that we're getting in these interviews,

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and really it's it's about love and light and community,

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and it's all the same. They're saying it differently, but

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all of these people are telling us the same thing.

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So that kind of reinforces you what Will was saying

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and everything that we've already been talking about. The many paths,

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because like I said, many different modalities, but it's all

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the same message, just different languages.

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I love that and I think that that resonates with

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so many people because even on the spiritual path, you know,

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when you talk about you thought you knew everything and

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every you knew where you know, if you didn't believe it, it

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wasn't true type of thing I presume you mean. Was

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that more in the material world or was that from

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like a religious spirituality perspective just everything?

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a practicing Catholic. But I had the tenets of Catholicism

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drilled into me over the course of my upbringing. But

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mostly it was in the material world because I wasn't as.

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I wasn't as bought in.

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I guess to the religious part of it that that

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thought process came in.

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It just seemed to every part of my life.

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But remember, one of the biggest arguments that Karen and

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I had was when we were going to send our

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daughter to preschool, and Karen had heard that this research.

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She researched. My bad, so sorry. She researched the fact that.

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The best school, the best preschool in our area happened

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to be a.

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Presbyterian school.

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And I was a ghaest because there's no way that

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I'm going to allow my child to be fed the

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dogma and the fear based thought processes that come with

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that type of organized religion, and we had this knockout

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drag out only to find it, only to find years

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later that wow, was I just so myopically thinking and

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looking at things. Because she had a wonderful preschool and

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they didn't brainwash her into thinking anything, she was able

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to actually come up with her own modalies. That she's

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fourteen now she's got a little bit more of a

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sense of what's real for her.

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And it has nothing to do with anything.

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That we taught her or the school taught her. If

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she came up on it on her own. And that's

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another example of how everyone has a different path and

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we support that wholeheartedly.

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One of the differences during this argument, I remember, you

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were just these people just believe so blindly, and so yes,

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maybe they believe things that you know, we didn't believe

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or don't believe or did, but it's kind of nice

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to have that amount of faith and whatever you believe in,

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just to know that that is your truth and you

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just couldn't see it just like, well, it's not my truth,

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so it's wrong.

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this with religion with spirituality, especially in the context of

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like our podcasts for example, you know, that's what we're

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exploring regularly. But this happens even within the scientific community

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or even within like an agnostic or an a a

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theistic viewpoint, where it's like there's almost so much of

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this like clenching to what you know even when you

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don't know, Like even when you're claiming that you don't know,

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it's like yeah, but there there's still this clutching of like,

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well it can't be because I haven't seen the proof

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or I haven't accepted the proof, or I believe that

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people are making up what they're saying that would give

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me an inkling of truth. But I think a lot

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of people can relate to that too, where it's we

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even on even on a spiritual path, where it's it's

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like I know what I know, and I believe what

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I believe in. That's what's right, and I know, Like

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for me when I kind of before my proper awakening,

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that like as a child, for example, I was always

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interested in near death experiences and I still am am

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I love near death experiences, but I remember the first

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few that I read, I thought that they were bringing

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back exactly what happens when you die, and what will

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happen when I die, and what happens when everybody dies,

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and it was not exactly what I had learned in church.

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And to be honest, I was not huge. I didn't

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grow up in like a really dogmatic household. We didn't

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go to church like all that often, but we had

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a church and we went sometimes. And what I learned

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in near death experiences was a lot more personal than

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what it felt like in church. When I was hearing

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these ancient stories and I didn't know who the people

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were and I didn't have a lot of context for

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the stories. It was so personal, you know. But whether

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it involved Jesus, whether it involved angels, whether it involved

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like deceased loved ones who had gone before, that was

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the truth. That was what was real. And so it

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was confusing when I'd come across a new one and

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it didn't have Jesus in it, or it didn't have

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an angel in it, or you know, it took place

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flying through the air, like what's that about. I've never

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come across that before. That can't be right, you know.

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But it was this like starting to reject things that

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I hadn't already been exposed to because it was new

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and it didn't fit. And so I have come to

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understand through my journey of like you're saying, like the

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ability to just hold many truths, and I've never heard

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that before, the analogy of God being on the truth mountain,

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and how we get these little bits of it, these

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little expressions of a bigger truth, and that's so important.

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So was there one key moment for either of you

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or both of you that really kind of cracked you

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open to a new reality.

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I don't know that there was one particular moment. I

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think it was a combination of a bunch of different moments.

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But ultimately I think I am one of those hard

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headed people that had to have the proof. That's the

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name of the show, The Skeptic met Physician, because I

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needed to wrap my I wanted to believe, but I

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need to wrap my head around the concepts that I

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was being told and so I had to see it,

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feel it, experience it, be told it repeatedly before I

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started to open up that hard shell that said no, no, no.

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The programming that we've all been a part of, In fact,

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we have been a part of programming our daughter, we

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catch ourselves doing. It is so ingrained in us that

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it's hard to overcome that sometimes, especially somebody who I

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grew up in the New York area and the people

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can be a little misleading there.

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There can be.

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Harsh, but they can be beautiful and wonderful too. It's

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just a matter of perspective, which which direction you want

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to look at it. And I was looking at it

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from the negative side of.

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Things, So everything that I saw was.

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Tinted with that thought process. You know, over the course

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of many years. We've been the show for four years now.

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Finally the experiences I would have I was we were

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having really showed me. I guess there is one that

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really blew us both away. The nut, the nut, the one.

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That oh the nut.

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This was more like an edible nut.

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No, right, no, this is more like a in the

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in the in the vein of.

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Proof is in the pudding. See it to believe it.

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Yes, definitely, see to believe it.

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But it was it was about how we hop realities constantly.

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I didn't think that was possible. We have one timeline,

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one reality.

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But we were doing an interview on location one day

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and these microphones are connected by the particular nut to

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the arm and if you don't have that nut, you're

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out of luck. You have to hold the microphone. So

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we were setting everything up and as I was screwing

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in the nut, Kerl was sitting next to me right

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where as we are now we're on chairs, and as

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I'm doing it, the nut falls out of my hands

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and we both see it fall, bounce on the floor

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and vanish and we're like, what the heck's We are

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actually on our all fours looking for.

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This thing under furniture. I took a part a little

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rock fountain. Maybe it fell into that. I mean it

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was a white rug, so you would have seen it.

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But we're like, you know, putting our hands kind of plush, you,

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putting our hands to the rug. People were helping us,

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pulling couch cushions off.

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Tearing apart fountains. They had a fountain in there. She

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was pulling the break by brick, pulling it apart from nut.

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And we were sitting like this right.

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You know how your pockets get, you know, they get

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flattened out, so there's no way it could be anywhere

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on us. So we said, okay, yeah, we're holding the microphone.

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So we did the microphone holding it, and then when

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it was finished, we were putting things away. We had

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an audience that was watching at the time. They came

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to us and they said, hey, I'm being told, because

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of course there's audiences and audience of awakened folks, I'm being

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told that you need to check your pocket. So because

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I'm I wanna be nice, of course, Oh yeah, of course, right,

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And I think of that, thinking to myself, there's no way,

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no physical way, there's no way. We were sitting down,

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My pockets are folded in on themselves. We saw it

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hit it hit the ground and bounce. Okay, but I

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will indulge them. And I put my hands, one hand

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in each pocket. And when I did that, my face

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fell because in my right hand when I pulled it out,

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was that nut.

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Oh my god.

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I'm telling you, there's no way. There is no way

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this thing could have gotten into my pocket.

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It gives.

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We talked about it for weeks afterwards, because on my

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way to the interview, I was kind of waffling and

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I just set out to the universe.

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I need I need to know, I need to.

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Know if this is because we're starting to kind of

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lose faith. Wow, be careful what you asked for, because

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I literally cannot explain this and think fully, thankfully I

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have someone who's a witness to it all, not just

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me going crazy. There were a bunch of people, but

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she was right next to me, and she firmly confirmed

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there is no possible way could have gotten in your

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pocket other than we hopped realities.

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Or the universe. Just I don't know. I don't know.

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I can't explain it.

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But the difference between the mystery, difference between me that

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now and me then I'm okay with that. Knowing whatever

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the mystery is, it's kind of the fun part of it,

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all right.

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It is so fun. Yeah, Karen, that be your story too,

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or do you have another one that comes to mind?

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You know, I've been very different from Will. I have

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never not known and it's not I was raised Catholic,

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I went to Catholic school. It wasn't super like dogma

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down your throat. We didn't go to church much as kids,

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but I just would have little things happen. I think

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probably the when I really look back about it, probably

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the biggest maybe experiences. I literally a ghost literally saved

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my life. Oh so that I can't wait to hear

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of size that whole feeling. Yeah, no, it's crazy. So

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I'll just try to put in a little nutshell. I

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had an apartment with a roommate and she was out

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of town one weekend, and I had a little television

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in my bedroom back in the day when they were small,

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you know, And so I'd fallen asleep with the television on,

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and I woke up and someone's turning the TV off,

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and I'm like, from my first thought, oh, one of

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Christie's friends is in here turning the TV off, you know,

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And I'm like, oh, crap, you know this is not

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so my plan was just to roll over time I'm sleeping.

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And so meanwhile like kind of what's going through my

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head is a thousand our fathers, oddly enough because I

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hadn't been to church in years, but that starts going

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through my head and me thinking, Okay, this person now

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knows I'm awake, they're gonna leave. They just came in

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to steal stuff, They're gonna leave. But actually he came

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around to the side of my bed, fortunately the side

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that was away from the door. So I just kind

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of even though my plan was to still be sleeping.

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My body just kind of you know, stretched, got up.

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I went out to the front door. That's kind of

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when it was just like the movies, because I get

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to the door and I like land on the deadlocks

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and I open them and I go to open the

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door and the chain's locked, and I'm just like at

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this point, I just panicgon, you know, trying to get

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the chain open, shut the door, get the chain out.

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I run upstairs stupidly into this little quad and then

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he comes up and the neighbor I'm banging on the

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door is finally I got into someone's house before he

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got me, obviously, so all was good. And then we

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found stuff that was there to tie me up and

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a knife and all this stuff.

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So the reason I say I go this was a stranger.

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Yeah, oh my god. Yeah. So the reason I say

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that I go save my life was because I remember

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what I was dreaming when I was right before I

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woke up. Because I was a girl that could from Florida.

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I slept through hurricanes like nothing would wake me up.

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So to hear someone like just pushing the button of

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the television to wake me up, that's very surprising. I

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would sleep through alarm clocks, I mean, just you name it.

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So in my dream, I was in this old house

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and I was talking to a ghost and it was

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a woman, and she was it was through she was

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communicating me through through knocking knocking sounds. And somehow what

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I figured out was so weird. It was that I

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had to take her head and put it back with

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her body so she could leave the earth. So I

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found her head in this drawer and put it back

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with the body, and I guess all was well, so

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I'm researching this dream just in general, what does it mean?

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And it was basically, you know, if there's a ghost

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there and you're communicating and it's not fearful, it's a warning.

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And then I did some more research about how in

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certain areas when women were condemned as which is they

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were decapitated, and they where their bodies were separated from

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their heads because the belief was they couldn't ascend that way.

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I had no knowledge of this, so I feel like

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somehow I was helping her and she she was, you know,

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helping me and waking me back up, like get you know,

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wake up, get up, get out. And really, ever since then,

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I've had this relationship with this female spirit. I call

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her Lily. I don't know what her name really was,

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and she appears every once in a while and you know,

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does little things. But yeah, so that was probably the biggest,

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like example, I.

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Think, oh, that's so powerful. Wow, what great stories. You know.

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One of the things you touched on very briefly was

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when you woke up and you were pretending to sleep,

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you said, like our father, you said, the prayer, the

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Lord's prayers what you mean?

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Yep.

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And this is really powerful for me because in the

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last like four nights, three nights, four nights, I've had

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a dream, a thematic dream that has shown up that

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is I'm driving a car and it's in two different ways.

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One one, I'm driving straight up a mountain face like

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completely vertical. It's slippery, it's like icy conditions. And I'm

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in this old sedan and I'm going straight up and

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I'm like, and I have people with me, you know,

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I've got like my daughter, my mom and a couple

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other people, and I'm like, I don't know how long

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we can do this. And it's the car starts to

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tip backwards, and I say, everybody pray. And as soon

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as everybody starts praying, it goes back up against the mountain,

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and I felt like that dream, you know, really stuck

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with me. I really tried to kind of like integrate that,

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and I felt that that was such a powerful message.

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But last night I dreamt again that I was driving.

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The traffic was really really tight, like bumper to bumper

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and kind of like precarious, just dangerous. And I go

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to make this turn and I realize that the turn

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that I'm making, I'm now on beams. I'm on beams

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up high like a building that was under construction, So

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I'm having to drive on these beams and I start

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to slip off the side, and I start praying, and

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I immediately get right it, like immediately I go back

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on the beams as soon as I remember to pray.

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And those both of those for me, you know, the

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driving like being in control of the car, but then

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also the car like not coming out of control, but

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then remembering that I've got the power of prayer and

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the immediate effect of prayer, and then hearing like you

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being in this very real danger. But also like there's

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a sleep element to it, there's a dream element to it.

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You chose to pray and then you came out of

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harm's way through that, Like it's just all of this

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in my world, Like the construction of reality is like

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very very powerful through you that so oh wow.

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Yeah.

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And when she talks about little things happening, they're not

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little things.

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There are things that any one of them.

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Would go, oh, okay, there's something going on here, but

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we don't want to take up too much of your time.

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But like things are just so it's always happened to

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her that way because she's been open to it, yeah,

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whereas with me, I've not been as open to it,

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so things don't happen. And that's one of the things

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that we learned over the course of doing the show

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is that if you feel that the world is a

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non magical place, it is absolutely going to be that way.

458
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But however, if you're opening yourself up the possibilities, then

459
00:24:44.000 --> 00:24:46.319
the university is gonna go whoah, all right, let me

460
00:24:46.319 --> 00:24:49.200
show you something. And then suddenly, little by little it

461
00:24:49.240 --> 00:24:51.759
opens up more and more until you go, Okay, we

462
00:24:51.799 --> 00:24:53.079
live in a magical place, and you.

463
00:24:53.079 --> 00:24:55.160
Really start recognizing it because you can look at something, oh,

464
00:24:55.160 --> 00:24:58.680
it's just a coincidence, or you know, write it off

465
00:24:58.759 --> 00:25:01.480
or whatever. Luck. But if you think about it and

466
00:25:01.559 --> 00:25:04.000
in forms of it's a little miracle or it's a

467
00:25:04.119 --> 00:25:06.920
you know something, it changes it. It changes your perspective.

468
00:25:06.920 --> 00:25:07.960
It makes it so much more fun.

469
00:25:08.079 --> 00:25:09.039
It's beautiful.

470
00:25:09.119 --> 00:25:11.440
Yeah, it makes it just so much more fun to live,

471
00:25:11.480 --> 00:25:13.279
and you know, it's beautiful life.

472
00:25:13.400 --> 00:25:14.319
Absolutely well.

473
00:25:14.359 --> 00:25:17.920
I think you may have just answered this, but I

474
00:25:17.960 --> 00:25:21.839
was wondering the role of skepticism, like how skepticism and doubt,

475
00:25:21.880 --> 00:25:25.720
like what role has that played in your journey, especially

476
00:25:25.839 --> 00:25:28.599
since your awakening through COVID.

477
00:25:30.559 --> 00:25:34.279
Unfortunately, in this in this industry, just as any other,

478
00:25:34.400 --> 00:25:37.880
there there are lots of people who don't have your

479
00:25:37.880 --> 00:25:41.319
best interest in mind. So I think a certain level

480
00:25:41.359 --> 00:25:47.279
of skepticism, not cynicism, is important when you're looking into

481
00:25:47.319 --> 00:25:50.720
these things, when you're trying to find your path, it's

482
00:25:50.759 --> 00:25:52.319
really important to discern.

483
00:25:53.799 --> 00:25:56.480
The way forward. Better discernment, discernment.

484
00:25:56.599 --> 00:26:01.079
Yes, yes, yeah, In fact, there was a time obviously

485
00:26:01.160 --> 00:26:03.920
no longer skeptical. I was very much a skeptical when

486
00:26:03.920 --> 00:26:08.480
I first started the show, but over time I lost

487
00:26:08.519 --> 00:26:12.960
that skepticism because I've experienced things, I know things, I

488
00:26:13.039 --> 00:26:17.480
have evolved tremendously. The guy that I am right now

489
00:26:17.519 --> 00:26:19.000
talking to you. Is not the same guy that I

490
00:26:19.039 --> 00:26:21.359
was when we first started the show, for sure.

491
00:26:22.200 --> 00:26:22.359
But.

492
00:26:25.039 --> 00:26:28.039
There was a time when I lost my skepticism. We

493
00:26:28.240 --> 00:26:30.839
considered changing the name of the show because we're no

494
00:26:30.880 --> 00:26:34.319
longer skeptical, so we you know, it doesn't it feels disingenuous,

495
00:26:34.720 --> 00:26:36.640
But then we realized that.

496
00:26:36.640 --> 00:26:39.160
The show was never for us.

497
00:26:40.160 --> 00:26:43.359
We have gotten all kinds of messages and reviews and

498
00:26:43.400 --> 00:26:45.640
things like that where people are saying, oh my gosh,

499
00:26:45.720 --> 00:26:47.640
thank you for helping me to feel normal, thank you

500
00:26:47.720 --> 00:26:51.799
for helping me to move down the path to find

501
00:26:51.799 --> 00:26:52.759
my own way.

502
00:26:52.960 --> 00:26:55.559
So we were. Though I started for.

503
00:26:55.640 --> 00:26:57.599
Very selfish reasons. I was trying to figure out my

504
00:26:57.680 --> 00:26:59.759
way forward, it ended up that we were helping other

505
00:26:59.759 --> 00:27:03.039
people as well, and so at that point we're thinking

506
00:27:03.039 --> 00:27:07.079
about changing the name, we realize we need to think

507
00:27:07.079 --> 00:27:09.680
about it because we may not be skeptic Betevosians anymore,

508
00:27:09.799 --> 00:27:13.000
but our audience is. And so from that point forward,

509
00:27:13.119 --> 00:27:16.519
our focus changed, and now it's not about us being skeptical,

510
00:27:16.559 --> 00:27:19.319
but rather trying to get have these conversations with people

511
00:27:19.319 --> 00:27:21.839
in a way that those that might be skeptical that

512
00:27:21.960 --> 00:27:25.039
need a pragmatic way to approach it can have those

513
00:27:25.119 --> 00:27:27.759
questions answered for them. So I do play a little

514
00:27:27.799 --> 00:27:30.839
bit of a role in the show. The show is

515
00:27:31.160 --> 00:27:34.799
much more it's lighthearted.

516
00:27:34.880 --> 00:27:38.279
We laugh a lot. We don't take ourselves very seriously.

517
00:27:38.599 --> 00:27:40.640
We take the topic seriously, but we position it in

518
00:27:40.720 --> 00:27:44.279
a way where people hopefully are laughing. We're laughing, so

519
00:27:44.319 --> 00:27:45.279
maybe they're laughing at us.

520
00:27:45.319 --> 00:27:45.759
I don't know, but.

521
00:27:48.079 --> 00:27:49.960
I do play a little bit of a role because

522
00:27:50.000 --> 00:27:54.200
I do want to provide that that viewpoint contrast. Yeah,

523
00:27:54.359 --> 00:27:58.200
where caring comes into it, and we have different perspectives

524
00:27:58.240 --> 00:27:58.920
in a lot of ways.

525
00:27:58.920 --> 00:28:02.359
Also, Yeah, so he does. He knows who we're interviewing.

526
00:28:02.400 --> 00:28:04.200
He does all the research, he creates the introductions, all

527
00:28:04.240 --> 00:28:07.519
of that. I don't know who we're interviewing until we

528
00:28:07.559 --> 00:28:10.200
sit down and start talking to them. The reason for

529
00:28:10.240 --> 00:28:11.640
that is so that I can be more of a

530
00:28:11.680 --> 00:28:14.519
representative of the audience and kind of ask those questions

531
00:28:14.519 --> 00:28:15.880
that are going to pop into your mind without that

532
00:28:15.920 --> 00:28:18.920
background knowledge leading me to a certain questions.

533
00:28:19.039 --> 00:28:21.039
Yeah, because sometimes I'm too close to it. I do

534
00:28:21.079 --> 00:28:23.359
a lot of the research, and so yeah, I know

535
00:28:23.440 --> 00:28:26.599
the answer. So when I'm asking questions, I assume in

536
00:28:26.640 --> 00:28:28.759
my head subconsciously that people know the answer or you.

537
00:28:28.839 --> 00:28:30.440
Ask him in a way to get the answer out

538
00:28:30.480 --> 00:28:31.240
that you're hoping.

539
00:28:31.039 --> 00:28:34.839
For, right exactly where is Karen might be able to

540
00:28:34.880 --> 00:28:37.240
check me on that. So we have the perspective of that,

541
00:28:37.400 --> 00:28:40.039
we have the perspective where she's always known where I've

542
00:28:40.079 --> 00:28:41.039
had to have that proof.

543
00:28:41.400 --> 00:28:43.200
We have the female male perspective.

544
00:28:44.279 --> 00:28:46.559
So it just it provides a really kind of a

545
00:28:46.599 --> 00:28:49.359
cool dynamic, you know, in that sort of sense.

546
00:28:50.000 --> 00:28:55.519
And Karen and your evolution, as Will has gone through

547
00:28:55.599 --> 00:28:59.319
his awakening and that kind of like one the interest

548
00:28:59.720 --> 00:29:04.240
in exploring consciousness and the mysteries of the world, like

549
00:29:04.680 --> 00:29:06.480
him kind of opening up to this part of you

550
00:29:06.559 --> 00:29:13.480
that was already awake. Perhaps, how has that how has

551
00:29:13.559 --> 00:29:18.839
that skeptical piece like worked with you in terms of

552
00:29:18.880 --> 00:29:21.799
your own growth And were there times where that felt

553
00:29:22.000 --> 00:29:24.960
frustrating for you or has it always kind of been

554
00:29:25.000 --> 00:29:27.960
something that's helped to ground you, or how has that

555
00:29:28.000 --> 00:29:29.440
worked for you well?

556
00:29:29.440 --> 00:29:31.799
With Will, it was a little we've had those challenges,

557
00:29:31.839 --> 00:29:34.559
like that argument that we had about the preschool. But

558
00:29:34.720 --> 00:29:39.200
I also so I've always believed in different stuff, but

559
00:29:39.240 --> 00:29:40.720
I also am very I was going to be an

560
00:29:40.759 --> 00:29:43.960
engineer in college, you know, very math science oriented as well.

561
00:29:45.480 --> 00:29:50.319
So I don't know. I think maybe the I don't

562
00:29:50.359 --> 00:29:51.640
know change. I don't know if this is really the

563
00:29:51.720 --> 00:29:55.279
question you asked. But for me just learning how many

564
00:29:55.319 --> 00:29:58.039
different things, maybe I was skeptical to the amount or

565
00:29:58.039 --> 00:30:01.279
to the multitude of different paths that there are. You know,

566
00:30:01.319 --> 00:30:03.640
Will talks about jumping timelines a lot the nut how

567
00:30:03.839 --> 00:30:05.440
like I would not have necessarily thought that was a

568
00:30:05.440 --> 00:30:07.680
time lun jump. I would have, you know, said something different.

569
00:30:07.680 --> 00:30:10.519
I don't know. And then he has his stories of

570
00:30:10.599 --> 00:30:12.759
when he experienced that. I'm like, okay, maybe you know,

571
00:30:12.839 --> 00:30:17.480
are you sure? And then then yesterday we had gone

572
00:30:17.480 --> 00:30:19.079
to the amazing day before yesterday, we go to the

573
00:30:19.079 --> 00:30:22.119
grocery store and so he had put away the groceries

574
00:30:22.160 --> 00:30:24.039
and I was doing something, making something for my daughter.

575
00:30:24.079 --> 00:30:25.279
So I go to pull out and I was making

576
00:30:25.279 --> 00:30:27.640
a cake. I go to pull out milk. We were

577
00:30:27.680 --> 00:30:28.960
out of milk. So he bought a new milk and

578
00:30:28.960 --> 00:30:32.400
I grab it and it's like halfway empty, and I'm like, okay,

579
00:30:32.480 --> 00:30:34.000
he doesn't drink milk. How can he and I have

580
00:30:34.039 --> 00:30:36.119
drank that much milk? Or you know, you hear about

581
00:30:36.119 --> 00:30:37.960
the people going around the stores and opening things. I'm like,

582
00:30:38.000 --> 00:30:39.839
oh my gosh. And as I'm thinking.

583
00:30:39.599 --> 00:30:41.640
About it, and she says, oh, he must have bought

584
00:30:41.799 --> 00:30:43.960
a half hused carton of milk.

585
00:30:45.240 --> 00:30:50.359
Well, I mean, you know that could happen really well

586
00:30:50.400 --> 00:30:51.720
if you didn't open it. Maybe you just don't know

587
00:30:51.720 --> 00:30:54.440
how much it normally weighs. So as I'm thinking about this,

588
00:30:54.680 --> 00:30:58.400
the curton is getting heavier and heavier and heavier. What

589
00:30:59.000 --> 00:31:01.559
and by the end, and I thought it's full on

590
00:31:01.839 --> 00:31:06.400
heavy thing. I don't know. I was like, well, I

591
00:31:06.440 --> 00:31:07.960
think I just don't Timeline.

592
00:31:08.319 --> 00:31:10.680
Let me just reiterate that we're not the kind of

593
00:31:10.680 --> 00:31:13.880
folks that will come up with stories, right, That's not us.

594
00:31:13.920 --> 00:31:17.279
We are much more feed on the ground, in fact,

595
00:31:17.279 --> 00:31:19.759
asking the questions like okay, were.

596
00:31:19.599 --> 00:31:20.799
You drinking when this happened?

597
00:31:23.440 --> 00:31:28.480
First, So to hear Karan say that she's experienced something

598
00:31:28.680 --> 00:31:32.039
recently that she's not sure about, that the channeling and

599
00:31:32.039 --> 00:31:34.480
all the kinds of stuff, and she's always asking is

600
00:31:34.519 --> 00:31:36.680
it me? Am I making it up like she's always

601
00:31:36.759 --> 00:31:40.279
questioned it. This was never a question. This was will

602
00:31:40.640 --> 00:31:43.480
It was half empty and in my hands it filled up.

603
00:31:44.200 --> 00:31:46.880
Oh that is so it was crazy.

604
00:31:47.000 --> 00:31:50.359
When she says that I pay attention because she's not

605
00:31:50.400 --> 00:31:52.480
the one to say things willy nilly like that, So

606
00:31:53.599 --> 00:31:54.680
I just wish it happened to me.

607
00:31:57.359 --> 00:31:59.680
Another I was just going, Aha. Another thing that a

608
00:31:59.680 --> 00:32:01.640
lot of our audience on the Fate well they probably

609
00:32:01.680 --> 00:32:03.359
know by now, but we have a lot of very

610
00:32:03.400 --> 00:32:07.160
different beliefs about a lot of things, so we don't

611
00:32:07.359 --> 00:32:08.759
just agree with each other all the time.

612
00:32:08.880 --> 00:32:10.599
Different from each other, yeah, different from each other.

613
00:32:10.720 --> 00:32:12.519
Yeah.

614
00:32:12.000 --> 00:32:12.480
Yeah.

615
00:32:12.519 --> 00:32:15.440
People automatically assume, since we're married, we do the show together,

616
00:32:15.720 --> 00:32:19.519
we have this new reality TV platform together, that we

617
00:32:19.559 --> 00:32:20.799
would believe the same things.

618
00:32:21.039 --> 00:32:23.160
In fact, it's quite the opposite.

619
00:32:23.400 --> 00:32:28.279
There are many many times when we actually choose not

620
00:32:28.359 --> 00:32:30.720
to talk about something because it's going to be a

621
00:32:30.720 --> 00:32:35.880
trigger point. But the way, that's another way that helped

622
00:32:35.920 --> 00:32:41.400
us to realize the many paths one truth mentality because

623
00:32:41.920 --> 00:32:44.799
I see her and I see her reality. I see

624
00:32:44.839 --> 00:32:48.400
her experiencing her reality and I'm experiencing mine, and they're

625
00:32:48.519 --> 00:32:52.279
very different, and yet they're both so incredibly valid. And

626
00:32:52.279 --> 00:32:54.759
then you start thinking about, you know, our thumb prints,

627
00:32:55.000 --> 00:32:58.839
right and snowflakes, and how no two are the same.

628
00:32:59.279 --> 00:33:02.799
So how could we possibly have the same spiritual path

629
00:33:02.880 --> 00:33:05.839
if we are completely individual people down to our thumb prints.

630
00:33:06.240 --> 00:33:08.319
So then it starts starts kind of making sense to

631
00:33:08.400 --> 00:33:09.119
that point.

632
00:33:09.640 --> 00:33:13.440
Yeah, I love that. And you started by talking about

633
00:33:13.680 --> 00:33:18.759
skepticism and discernment and that you know when you're in

634
00:33:19.400 --> 00:33:22.200
you know, and this is a really important point because

635
00:33:22.240 --> 00:33:25.400
for people who are on an awakening journey or who

636
00:33:25.440 --> 00:33:28.759
are on a spiritual journey, there can be that temptation

637
00:33:29.039 --> 00:33:32.240
to just especially if you're early on and you feel

638
00:33:32.279 --> 00:33:35.000
like everybody is ahead of you. You know, you're jumping

639
00:33:35.240 --> 00:33:39.799
into these waters that there it feels like people already

640
00:33:39.880 --> 00:33:43.039
know what they're talking about, and so you just trust,

641
00:33:43.359 --> 00:33:46.759
you know, and and I know that. You know, I've

642
00:33:46.799 --> 00:33:49.799
had my podcast since twenty eighteen. I have had guests

643
00:33:49.839 --> 00:33:52.680
on that I was wowed by, that I was so

644
00:33:53.480 --> 00:33:59.000
excited about. And then time goes on and things start

645
00:33:59.000 --> 00:34:01.960
to come to light and you realize like, oh, these

646
00:34:02.000 --> 00:34:04.119
people weren't who they thought who they said they were.

647
00:34:04.359 --> 00:34:07.640
They weren't what I thought they were. I've had to

648
00:34:07.680 --> 00:34:11.400
take some shows down just to not mislead people. Like

649
00:34:11.440 --> 00:34:14.760
once you know the truth, then it's like, okay, well,

650
00:34:14.800 --> 00:34:17.840
you know, I'm sorry for you know, if people found

651
00:34:17.880 --> 00:34:21.239
them through my platform. But the only thing I can

652
00:34:21.280 --> 00:34:24.159
do at this point is to not let that happen

653
00:34:24.159 --> 00:34:27.639
to anybody else. But I presume like you guys have

654
00:34:27.800 --> 00:34:29.519
experienced things like that too.

655
00:34:29.679 --> 00:34:33.159
Oh absolutely, and we do the same thing. We take

656
00:34:33.199 --> 00:34:38.760
them down. In fact, there was a point where we

657
00:34:39.800 --> 00:34:42.880
debated whether or not to put them up. You know,

658
00:34:42.960 --> 00:34:45.400
you give sense for someone when you're interviewing somebody. We

659
00:34:45.480 --> 00:34:47.800
had someone who came in and right off the bat,

660
00:34:47.840 --> 00:34:50.400
they threw a truth bomb at us that it just

661
00:34:50.559 --> 00:34:53.679
was impossible to accept. And then the interview, where does

662
00:34:53.679 --> 00:35:01.239
it go from there? But so we debated for months

663
00:35:01.360 --> 00:35:03.960
whether or not to release that episode. As it turned

664
00:35:04.000 --> 00:35:08.639
out when we did publish it, but we published it

665
00:35:08.679 --> 00:35:12.599
with a hey, this might not be your truth, but

666
00:35:12.719 --> 00:35:16.320
it is a truth. And so from that point forward

667
00:35:16.079 --> 00:35:21.800
we decided to reposition it as we're going to bring

668
00:35:21.880 --> 00:35:25.000
us to light and let the audience figure out for

669
00:35:25.039 --> 00:35:28.239
themselves whether it resonates with them or not. However, to

670
00:35:28.320 --> 00:35:33.199
your point, if we find something which just recently happened,

671
00:35:33.239 --> 00:35:36.159
actually just a few months ago, that someone that we

672
00:35:36.280 --> 00:35:39.239
thought we knew really well suddenly turned out to be

673
00:35:39.599 --> 00:35:43.960
not that through no fault with their own perhaps, but regardless,

674
00:35:44.360 --> 00:35:46.320
we did have to take it down because it was

675
00:35:46.480 --> 00:35:50.400
we felt it would be irresponsible to have our show

676
00:35:50.559 --> 00:35:53.519
be the referral engine for someone who wasn't quite ready

677
00:35:53.800 --> 00:35:57.719
to provide the services that they were saying that they would,

678
00:35:58.119 --> 00:36:02.440
just because we saw that we didn't resonate with you know,

679
00:36:02.599 --> 00:36:03.239
that makes sense.

680
00:36:03.119 --> 00:36:05.199
Y, And then you know, you have the people that

681
00:36:05.239 --> 00:36:06.880
come on they just want to sell their book, they

682
00:36:06.880 --> 00:36:09.079
want to sell their program and it's ten thousand dollars

683
00:36:09.119 --> 00:36:11.920
or whatever and stuff like that, even if they can

684
00:36:11.920 --> 00:36:14.840
actually do what they're saying they're doing. Our goal is

685
00:36:14.880 --> 00:36:19.280
to help people and to have people that are broadcasting

686
00:36:19.320 --> 00:36:22.159
messages of help. So if you're making it just about

687
00:36:22.199 --> 00:36:25.199
sales or something that's inaccessible to the majority of the people,

688
00:36:25.239 --> 00:36:27.000
that's not that's not our vibe.

689
00:36:27.280 --> 00:36:29.960
We totally understand everyone needs to make a living.

690
00:36:30.039 --> 00:36:31.679
Yeah, so we.

691
00:36:31.559 --> 00:36:33.719
Are one hundred percent on board with let's have a

692
00:36:33.760 --> 00:36:35.920
conversation and then by all means, at the end we'll

693
00:36:35.920 --> 00:36:37.519
talk about what it is that you're trying to move.

694
00:36:37.760 --> 00:36:40.559
It's just it's a it's an exchange of energies. We're

695
00:36:40.559 --> 00:36:44.119
happy to do that. But when every answer talks about well,

696
00:36:44.119 --> 00:36:46.840
you could see that in my book. Oh good gravy.

697
00:36:47.039 --> 00:36:48.880
Can we just not talk about your books for just

698
00:36:48.920 --> 00:36:52.239
a second, just one question, just one question without have nothing.

699
00:36:51.960 --> 00:36:55.199
To do with your book. It gets it gets tiring.

700
00:36:54.960 --> 00:36:59.840
Sometimes, Yeah, definitely. Well it is interesting and the other

701
00:37:00.239 --> 00:37:03.119
piece to it too. And I believe that you guys

702
00:37:03.960 --> 00:37:07.719
are conscientious about this too, because I've also seen things

703
00:37:07.760 --> 00:37:11.280
with your programming with like we're really trying not to

704
00:37:11.360 --> 00:37:16.639
stir up the fear, Like let's move forward to expand

705
00:37:16.639 --> 00:37:20.119
our consciousness, but bring the fear, you know, let's keep

706
00:37:20.119 --> 00:37:22.760
the fear out of it. And I've noticed with content,

707
00:37:22.920 --> 00:37:26.639
you know, where I've had people that I really respect

708
00:37:26.880 --> 00:37:32.719
and they've been fantastic conversations, but ultimately it is more

709
00:37:32.760 --> 00:37:39.840
of a fear based approach. And what's so sticky as

710
00:37:39.920 --> 00:37:46.440
a content creator is how popular that content is. And

711
00:37:46.719 --> 00:37:52.719
that is a really interesting dichotomy for people who understand

712
00:37:52.760 --> 00:37:57.599
the role of fear and that in the place for

713
00:37:57.679 --> 00:38:02.000
it in our ascension, how it can be so hooky

714
00:38:02.079 --> 00:38:06.400
and how it can draw people in. And I don't

715
00:38:06.400 --> 00:38:09.039
know if you've have you noticed this as well, because

716
00:38:09.079 --> 00:38:11.239
this is one of those things where it's like, oh, well,

717
00:38:11.280 --> 00:38:14.840
if you want the followers, then go that like, they've

718
00:38:14.960 --> 00:38:18.159
definitely got something. But that is a problem that we need.

719
00:38:18.000 --> 00:38:24.519
To solve as like as a as humanity, you know, sensationalizing.

720
00:38:24.320 --> 00:38:25.360
There's no question now.

721
00:38:26.239 --> 00:38:31.880
In fact, we talked about programming, right it's our programming

722
00:38:31.880 --> 00:38:36.519
that makes us click on the things that are intriguing,

723
00:38:36.840 --> 00:38:39.440
and unfortunately, the things that are the most intriguing to

724
00:38:39.719 --> 00:38:44.639
society these days is sensationalism. Is how many times have

725
00:38:44.719 --> 00:38:49.400
you seen someone whose thumbnail says absolutely unbelievable, they can't

726
00:38:49.440 --> 00:38:53.679
be missed, right, life defire, you know, life changing. The

727
00:38:53.679 --> 00:38:56.159
thumbnail is just so sensational, and then you listen to

728
00:38:56.239 --> 00:38:57.960
the show thinking, oh my gosh, and then you.

729
00:38:57.920 --> 00:38:59.920
Go, where's the message, where's yes?

730
00:39:00.239 --> 00:39:00.559
How does it.

731
00:39:02.199 --> 00:39:06.639
That's and that's unfortunate because it does work really, really well.

732
00:39:06.800 --> 00:39:11.800
The algorithm on YouTube, for example, rewards that kind of thing,

733
00:39:12.280 --> 00:39:16.800
and so people go to gravitate towards the listening of

734
00:39:16.840 --> 00:39:19.360
the fear response in order to get the clicks, and

735
00:39:19.400 --> 00:39:22.760
they get famous or popular or whatever because of it.

736
00:39:23.280 --> 00:39:25.199
So we specifically.

737
00:39:26.079 --> 00:39:29.559
Went out to create something that was the complete opposite

738
00:39:29.960 --> 00:39:34.000
because there's so much fear, there's so much division in

739
00:39:34.039 --> 00:39:39.440
the world right now that again selfishly I don't want

740
00:39:39.440 --> 00:39:42.239
to speak of Karen, but I wanted I needed content

741
00:39:42.559 --> 00:39:45.440
that I knew I could go one place and every

742
00:39:46.239 --> 00:39:49.480
bit of content was going to be safe and educational

743
00:39:49.800 --> 00:39:52.719
and it would help me in my spiritual journey to

744
00:39:52.800 --> 00:39:57.239
discover different paths or to learn lessons or to whatever

745
00:39:57.280 --> 00:40:02.480
it is, but not ever be served something specifically because

746
00:40:02.840 --> 00:40:06.199
I wanted a click. Right, So, all of our content

747
00:40:06.199 --> 00:40:09.920
partners that come on New Reality TV, we enter into

748
00:40:09.960 --> 00:40:13.559
agreements where the content won't be specifically designed to elicit

749
00:40:13.559 --> 00:40:17.880
a fear responds. We understand, and shadow work is necessary.

750
00:40:17.920 --> 00:40:21.119
We all have to work through things to get better,

751
00:40:21.159 --> 00:40:24.679
to advance, to evolve. But if the content is presented

752
00:40:24.679 --> 00:40:28.079
in a way that is meant to help someone process

753
00:40:28.119 --> 00:40:29.840
these things, then we're good.

754
00:40:30.559 --> 00:40:31.239
But if it's just.

755
00:40:31.239 --> 00:40:35.519
Meant to be, you'll never believe who just got possessed

756
00:40:35.519 --> 00:40:37.800
and died or you know, things like that. It's just

757
00:40:37.880 --> 00:40:41.639
it just isn't doesn't resonate. So we also, as I.

758
00:40:41.639 --> 00:40:43.880
Say, and not to mention, so many of those you know,

759
00:40:43.920 --> 00:40:46.519
you see that the faked hauntings and this and that,

760
00:40:46.559 --> 00:40:49.519
So it really takes credibility away from the people that

761
00:40:49.599 --> 00:40:52.559
really are working with light and with energy, So we

762
00:40:52.559 --> 00:40:53.599
don't want to do that either.

763
00:40:54.039 --> 00:40:57.599
Yeah right, yeah, so we have those tenants. It's no fear,

764
00:40:57.679 --> 00:41:00.440
no politics. We don't want to have devised device of conversations.

765
00:41:00.599 --> 00:41:03.480
And there's not much more divisive than politics these days, unfortunately,

766
00:41:04.159 --> 00:41:06.760
and really we don't want people to disparage each other

767
00:41:06.960 --> 00:41:10.719
because we truly do believe the one truth, many paths,

768
00:41:10.920 --> 00:41:14.079
and New Reality TV is meant to explore all these

769
00:41:14.079 --> 00:41:16.960
different modalities. So if you come on as a content

770
00:41:17.000 --> 00:41:23.320
partner and you start downplaying Cundolini astrology because it doesn't

771
00:41:23.360 --> 00:41:26.719
resonate with you, then the next content partner that's coming

772
00:41:26.719 --> 00:41:30.079
on after you might be a Kundalini practitioner or an astrologer,

773
00:41:30.119 --> 00:41:33.639
and now it's awkward, right, So we just if it's

774
00:41:33.679 --> 00:41:36.320
not your truth, it's perfectly okay, but it might be

775
00:41:36.320 --> 00:41:37.920
somebody else's just accept.

776
00:41:37.599 --> 00:41:42.400
That and one of the good I guess benefits side

777
00:41:42.400 --> 00:41:45.719
effects of this platform we've created. So Will loves all

778
00:41:45.719 --> 00:41:48.360
the content that's like getting in there and watching them,

779
00:41:48.440 --> 00:41:51.000
you know, meditations and the shows and the conversations and

780
00:41:51.000 --> 00:41:53.960
they're wonderful for me. I love the meetings with our

781
00:41:53.960 --> 00:41:57.199
content partners community because we do we have a community

782
00:41:57.239 --> 00:41:59.079
outside of the platform where they can all kind of

783
00:41:59.079 --> 00:42:01.360
get together, and there's starting to there. We have someone

784
00:42:01.400 --> 00:42:03.639
going from Thailand to Alaska to be on each other's shows.

785
00:42:03.639 --> 00:42:06.360
It's really becoming this amazing family. So I can be

786
00:42:06.480 --> 00:42:09.719
in the worst mood, you know, I've gotten a carrect whatever,

787
00:42:10.280 --> 00:42:11.880
and I'm like, oh, I got one of these meetings,

788
00:42:11.920 --> 00:42:13.639
and I come up to it, and within like ten minutes,

789
00:42:13.639 --> 00:42:16.159
I'm just like a and like the energy and just

790
00:42:16.199 --> 00:42:19.119
the amount of love pouring out of all of these people.

791
00:42:19.199 --> 00:42:22.159
It's really incredible. It's my favorite thing about it.

792
00:42:22.280 --> 00:42:25.719
Yeah, that's beautiful. Tell us about New Realities TV. So

793
00:42:25.719 --> 00:42:28.440
you've told us about the tenants and the purpose of it,

794
00:42:28.480 --> 00:42:29.639
but tell us what it is.

795
00:42:30.679 --> 00:42:34.360
Well, thanks for the opportunity. It's a new streaming platform

796
00:42:34.360 --> 00:42:37.639
that we have created. We just launched a January sixth,

797
00:42:38.119 --> 00:42:41.079
so not long ago. But it's like a Netflix meets

798
00:42:41.159 --> 00:42:43.079
Gaya without the fear response.

799
00:42:43.280 --> 00:42:43.440
Right.

800
00:42:44.039 --> 00:42:46.440
Guya is a great platform, But a lot of their

801
00:42:46.480 --> 00:42:50.159
things are not in alignment to alien abductions and demonic

802
00:42:50.159 --> 00:42:52.480
possessions and things like that, conspiracy theories. It's not really

803
00:42:52.480 --> 00:42:57.320
our thing. So it's really it has television shows it

804
00:42:57.360 --> 00:43:01.360
has films, it has meditations and activation. We're working on

805
00:43:01.679 --> 00:43:04.920
an audio stream as more like a radio aspect to it.

806
00:43:05.800 --> 00:43:08.360
We have a twenty four hour live i'm sorry, twenty

807
00:43:08.360 --> 00:43:11.440
four hour international broadcast that you just want to go

808
00:43:11.519 --> 00:43:13.840
and be served a show to you, you can do that,

809
00:43:13.920 --> 00:43:16.079
but if you prefer to dive into the on demand platform,

810
00:43:16.119 --> 00:43:18.920
you have all the content there and then people can

811
00:43:18.920 --> 00:43:19.920
go live to it too.

812
00:43:19.960 --> 00:43:21.159
So every once in a while you'll see.

813
00:43:21.480 --> 00:43:23.719
In fact, we have one content partner that goes live

814
00:43:23.760 --> 00:43:26.480
every day, every weekday and he just does this show

815
00:43:26.519 --> 00:43:29.360
live from the platform and people can ask questions and

816
00:43:29.519 --> 00:43:32.119
engage and things like that, and then we'll.

817
00:43:32.000 --> 00:43:34.800
Be doing like well, we recently had a summit, right

818
00:43:35.239 --> 00:43:37.079
it was a weekend long, eight hours a day. It

819
00:43:37.119 --> 00:43:39.880
was fantastic. And we also have a quarterly magazine that

820
00:43:39.920 --> 00:43:43.159
we publish, an e magazine, so we're planning some retreats

821
00:43:43.159 --> 00:43:45.840
and it's really just it's becoming so much more than

822
00:43:45.880 --> 00:43:48.360
just a platform. It's really becoming like a new reality.

823
00:43:48.840 --> 00:43:51.960
And that's the thing to Karen's point, is really new

824
00:43:52.000 --> 00:43:54.280
reality TV is really a community because it's not just

825
00:43:54.280 --> 00:43:55.159
the content partners.

826
00:43:55.320 --> 00:43:58.440
We also have opened it up to those that.

827
00:43:58.400 --> 00:44:01.440
Are that come in our part of the audience to

828
00:44:01.480 --> 00:44:05.480
interact with the content partners, and so it's really meant

829
00:44:05.519 --> 00:44:08.760
to be a place where you can go and know

830
00:44:08.840 --> 00:44:11.079
that you're safe, that you're not going to be served

831
00:44:11.119 --> 00:44:16.719
something that's going to trigger you, that you can dive

832
00:44:16.840 --> 00:44:20.079
into the content to explore and learn in a safe

833
00:44:20.159 --> 00:44:26.199
environment where you are going to know that every single

834
00:44:26.239 --> 00:44:29.480
person on the platform is there specifically to help you

835
00:44:29.920 --> 00:44:31.480
and your consciousness raise.

836
00:44:32.559 --> 00:44:35.800
And we do have it. We have it as a

837
00:44:35.840 --> 00:44:38.920
membership because we obviously have to cover our operating expenses,

838
00:44:38.920 --> 00:44:41.880
but we're keeping it really low because we do want

839
00:44:41.920 --> 00:44:44.760
it to be accessible. We have two, well three tiers,

840
00:44:44.760 --> 00:44:47.320
so we'll always have some free content for everyone. They'll

841
00:44:47.320 --> 00:44:50.559
get the first three episodes of every show, and currently

842
00:44:50.639 --> 00:44:53.880
we've got forty something shows on there and we've got

843
00:44:53.960 --> 00:44:56.000
more coming in, so that right there is a ton

844
00:44:56.000 --> 00:44:59.039
of content. Then the next level it's only five to

845
00:44:59.039 --> 00:45:01.360
fifty five a month and you get access to seven

846
00:45:01.400 --> 00:45:03.239
seventy seven. Oh, I'm sorry, that's why it was going

847
00:45:03.320 --> 00:45:06.079
to be. Yeah, seven seventy seven. Sorry, So you get

848
00:45:06.119 --> 00:45:10.440
access to the broadcaster and then all the content as

849
00:45:10.480 --> 00:45:12.400
soon as it's dropped, so more than just those first.

850
00:45:12.280 --> 00:45:13.519
Three episodes, so weekly episodes.

851
00:45:13.559 --> 00:45:15.320
Yeah, yeah, so the weekly episodes and then the higher

852
00:45:15.440 --> 00:45:18.480
level it's only eleven eleven I got that one right,

853
00:45:18.760 --> 00:45:21.000
So super affordable. And with that one you get access

854
00:45:21.039 --> 00:45:23.599
to the outer community portal where you can be in

855
00:45:23.599 --> 00:45:26.920
touch with the content partners, So that one's really exciting.

856
00:45:27.239 --> 00:45:29.559
Yeah, but the free part is that that's the most

857
00:45:29.599 --> 00:45:31.559
important thing for us because our goal is to get

858
00:45:31.559 --> 00:45:34.280
the messages out right this time around, we felt like,

859
00:45:34.320 --> 00:45:37.480
I'm not psychic. I've been dying to ask project and

860
00:45:37.559 --> 00:45:38.559
never been able to do it.

861
00:45:39.280 --> 00:45:41.280
Not really healer, We're not.

862
00:45:42.000 --> 00:45:44.320
That's not what we're here for this time around. We

863
00:45:44.360 --> 00:45:47.559
feel that I feel at this time my life this

864
00:45:47.960 --> 00:45:50.039
time around is to be a messenger, is to help

865
00:45:50.719 --> 00:45:52.920
broadcast these messages specifically.

866
00:45:52.360 --> 00:45:53.400
Because that's our day job.

867
00:45:53.400 --> 00:45:57.360
We're TV producers by trade, and so we've taken our

868
00:45:57.480 --> 00:46:03.719
expertise and we we have been called to bring our

869
00:46:03.760 --> 00:46:06.559
skill sets into the world in this way in order

870
00:46:06.599 --> 00:46:09.519
to help get the messages out. So even if no

871
00:46:09.559 --> 00:46:13.119
one subscribes to the thing, we've done our job because

872
00:46:13.159 --> 00:46:16.760
we've got the messages out as broaden as wide as

873
00:46:16.760 --> 00:46:20.400
we possibly can because they're so important, especially these days.

874
00:46:21.679 --> 00:46:26.679
That's beautiful. Well, how can people find New Reality TV

875
00:46:26.880 --> 00:46:29.960
and your podcast and more about you to connect.

876
00:46:29.679 --> 00:46:32.920
With you New Reality TV. It's very simple. It's just

877
00:46:32.960 --> 00:46:35.719
the website New Reality tv dot com and once you

878
00:46:35.760 --> 00:46:37.719
get on there, just feel free to pop and explore,

879
00:46:37.800 --> 00:46:40.159
check out the broadcaster, look at some of the shows,

880
00:46:40.760 --> 00:46:42.639
and then for our particular show, it is also on

881
00:46:42.719 --> 00:46:45.480
New Reality but you can also go to Skeptic Metaphysicians

882
00:46:45.480 --> 00:46:47.960
dot com and you can see all of the episodes

883
00:46:48.000 --> 00:46:49.559
there and you can also find them on all of

884
00:46:49.639 --> 00:46:51.159
the podcasting platforms.

885
00:46:51.239 --> 00:46:53.280
And I have to apologize because when I started the show,

886
00:46:53.360 --> 00:46:55.599
it was just me, so it was a skeptic metaphysician.

887
00:46:56.360 --> 00:46:59.800
So the website is Skeptic Metaphysician singular.

888
00:47:00.639 --> 00:47:01.599
It's okay, I am screwing.

889
00:47:01.599 --> 00:47:05.199
I'd loved right, think itok. We took our daughter to

890
00:47:05.239 --> 00:47:07.960
the airport this morning at four o'clock in the morning. Yes,

891
00:47:08.039 --> 00:47:10.119
oh wow, so we were up at three. It's our

892
00:47:10.159 --> 00:47:12.320
first trip away from us, and so I'm a little

893
00:47:12.320 --> 00:47:14.320
frazz apologize for my screw.

894
00:47:14.079 --> 00:47:16.280
Ups and then we're not freaked out about it at.

895
00:47:16.159 --> 00:47:16.960
All, not at all.

896
00:47:19.519 --> 00:47:22.440
And what type of what type of shows do you

897
00:47:22.519 --> 00:47:25.519
have on New Reality TV? Can you give some examples

898
00:47:26.719 --> 00:47:27.239
you name it.

899
00:47:27.280 --> 00:47:27.679
We have.

900
00:47:28.000 --> 00:47:30.920
They're mostly reality shows in terms of not like those

901
00:47:31.000 --> 00:47:33.880
reality shows that you're thinking just now, but basically we

902
00:47:33.960 --> 00:47:35.880
have some that are just ted talks or someone's just

903
00:47:35.880 --> 00:47:38.000
doing like master classes speaking to you.

904
00:47:38.360 --> 00:47:40.480
We have others that are like this.

905
00:47:40.679 --> 00:47:45.519
They have interviews and they interview experts in particular fields.

906
00:47:45.880 --> 00:47:48.800
There are others that are activations that are meant to

907
00:47:48.880 --> 00:47:51.280
activate things inside you. There are others that are meditations.

908
00:47:51.280 --> 00:47:54.320
That's all the others meditations. Then we have some one

909
00:47:54.400 --> 00:47:58.000
particular is a Thai Buddhist monk who goes around to

910
00:47:58.039 --> 00:48:01.079
all the holy sites in that area of the world

911
00:48:01.159 --> 00:48:04.000
and gives tours and then does breath work or you know,

912
00:48:04.199 --> 00:48:08.119
chee going or different things that go along with it.

913
00:48:08.199 --> 00:48:10.519
So there's all kinds of different shows.

914
00:48:10.559 --> 00:48:12.039
So the plant one is cool.

915
00:48:12.199 --> 00:48:13.199
Oh yeah, that's right.

916
00:48:13.239 --> 00:48:17.039
So we have a lady who records plants their vibrations

917
00:48:17.039 --> 00:48:19.840
and their energies and the music creates music out of them.

918
00:48:20.280 --> 00:48:22.000
She's out in the field and this is what a

919
00:48:22.079 --> 00:48:24.000
lily sounds like, and this is what you know, whatever

920
00:48:24.079 --> 00:48:25.280
sounds like. It's really cool.

921
00:48:25.360 --> 00:48:27.960
And then we have another show that is a medium

922
00:48:28.000 --> 00:48:31.440
in a chandler and they actually it's they bring in

923
00:48:33.079 --> 00:48:35.519
they call it dead Talks, so they bring in different

924
00:48:35.719 --> 00:48:38.760
entities and they actually so what he does is he

925
00:48:38.760 --> 00:48:41.760
he picks a person, doesn't tell her who it is,

926
00:48:41.840 --> 00:48:43.000
and then gives her clues.

927
00:48:43.159 --> 00:48:45.360
Okay, we I need to find so she.

928
00:48:45.320 --> 00:48:47.119
Has is it man or a woman? And he goes

929
00:48:47.119 --> 00:48:49.079
man and then okay, so everybody who's a female, leave

930
00:48:49.079 --> 00:48:50.920
the room. Leave the room in terms of spirits, right,

931
00:48:51.000 --> 00:48:53.599
leave the spirits, leave the room. Okay, this person lived

932
00:48:53.639 --> 00:48:56.280
in the eighteen hundreds. Okay, anyone who's no more modern,

933
00:48:56.400 --> 00:48:58.880
leave the room. And eventually she needs to buy the

934
00:48:58.880 --> 00:49:02.800
information she's getting. She realized she says who it is

935
00:49:03.320 --> 00:49:05.440
that she's talking to to speak to. So it's just

936
00:49:05.480 --> 00:49:09.000
it's very different types of content because some of the

937
00:49:09.039 --> 00:49:10.559
stuff is going to be We have some films. We

938
00:49:10.639 --> 00:49:13.519
just released a film today called Lucid about Lucid Dreamings,

939
00:49:13.960 --> 00:49:17.960
Lucid Dreaming that is very highly produced, its beautiful work.

940
00:49:18.559 --> 00:49:23.599
And then we have content that are it's very very relaxed,

941
00:49:23.719 --> 00:49:26.679
very the product quality is just like what you're watching here,

942
00:49:26.960 --> 00:49:28.320
or maybe even a little bit.

943
00:49:28.239 --> 00:49:31.880
Lower, but we really do celebrate those shows because we

944
00:49:31.960 --> 00:49:34.599
feel that right now, especially after COVID, everyone has become

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so disconnected and people are craving that connection, and it's

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so much easier to connect with someone that looks like

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you and feels like you and sounds like you than

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someone who is like you know, super fancy superstar and

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this really super highly produced production. We do have some

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of those as well. We've got something for everyone, but

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we did want to have that opportunity for that really

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kind of granular connection.

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YEA.

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Our tagline is our unofficial tagline is regular people going

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through spiritual awakenings helping other regular people going through spiritual awakenings.

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That's beautiful. Thanks well, Thank you so much. Thank you

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for the work that you're doing to help to raise

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consciousness on the planet and to make this content accessible

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for everybody. Thank you so much for being here today

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and it's been a beautiful discussion.

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Thank you very much.

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Thank you for providing the beautiful platform like just to

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helproprede the word self.

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Thank you for your time.

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Thank you, thank you for listening to this episode of

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Soul Elevation. Please take a moment to think about someone

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in your life who might be uplifted or have their

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curiosity sparked by this content and send it on to them.

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Let's keep sharing high frequency, empowering content to reinforce the

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