Escaping the Matrix of Fear: Spiritual Awakening, Consciousness, and Finding Your Soul Purpose

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- Karen, yes.

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- Remember that movie?

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- Yes.

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- Which one?

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- What movie?

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- What movie?

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- You know how good my movie memory is.

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I never remember anyone.

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- Which is why I'm asking.

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- But you'll remember this one.

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- Okay.

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- Remember the movie The Matrix?

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- I do remember that.

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- Yeah, I thought you would know.

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Now what if we are all just extras

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in some kind of cosmic matrix?

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- Oh.

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- You know, working, stressing, doing laundry?

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- Well, shoot, then I'm gonna start slackin'.

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- That's not funny.

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- Well, but the thing is that we might be doing that,

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but then the real us is actually screening at us

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to wake up.

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- Oh.

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- What if that?

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- That sounds very frustrating.

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- It does, right?

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- Yes.

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- It explains a lot, then, it doesn't it?

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Well, today's guest actually did wake up,

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right in the middle of a high powered locker-ear.

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- Oh.

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- He left the courtroom unplugged from fear and stress

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and discovered a path to peace and purpose it's actually

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practical.

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- All right.

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- So get ready, we're about to learn how to break free

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from the illusions of fear, lack, and separation

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without having to fight any agents.

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- Mr. Anderson.

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- That's good, 'cause I'm not that flexible.

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(laughing)

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- My name is Will.

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- And I'm Garrett.

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- And unlike Mulder and Scully,

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- Both wanna believe.

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- So we've embarked on a journey of discovery.

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- We've talked to people deeply entrenched

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in the spiritual and metaphysical world.

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- We've thrown ourselves into weird and wonderful experiences.

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I even joined a covenant with you.

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- And, wait, you joined a covenant?

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- Yep, all in the interest of fighting something.

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- Anything.

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- That will prove that there's something beyond this physical

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- Three dimensional world we all live in.

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- This is the skeptic metaphys--

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- The skeptic metaphys.

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(upbeat music)

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(upbeat music)

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- Hey there, I'm Will.

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- And I'm Garrett.

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- Welcome back to another Matrix Busting Fear Shattering

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- Soul liberating episode of the skeptic metaphysicians.

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- That's very exciting.

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- I know, our guest today is a former attorney

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to her in spiritual matrix escape artist.

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See, after years of chasing external success,

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he woke up, ditched the fear-based grind

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and discovered how to live with clarity, peace and presence,

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and now he helps others break free from the matrix,

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stress, anxiety and societal conditioning

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to reconnect with their true selves,

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no red pill required.

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(laughing)

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- Welcome to the show, Casey Berman, how you doing today?

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- I'm doing great, thank you so much for having me.

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What a great introduction.

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I gotta write that down, I gotta start talking

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about myself that way, I love it.

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- Yeah, it's very exciting.

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- You know what, we gotta start charging

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for the introduction, see, people could tell him,

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is it to like it, so, you know, we could be,

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like, full--

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- Just introduce ourselves.

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- Yes, full, we'll just walk around with you,

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wherever you travel, we'll introduce you right before you walk in.

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- Those guys talk to them.

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(laughing)

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- We've got a new career path, Karen.

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- At restaurants.

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- Right.

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- In the park.

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- Hey!

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(laughing)

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- But, I'll come in on the bathroom.

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- In the restaurant, hey!

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(laughing)

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- All right, Casey, we just,

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but we're excited to talk about this conversation

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because that matrix thing is everywhere these days, right?

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- It is, and it's kind of creepy.

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- It is creepy.

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- It freaks me out, does it freak you out?

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- Well, it's not, we're not talking about living in a simulation here.

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We're talking about like, living in fear and stress,

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not kind of stuff.

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You know, it's matrix-like.

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- Okay, I like that better.

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I mean, that's not good, but,

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(laughing)

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now I'm not afraid of you.

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- You can go there.

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I actually just saw the matrix on the airplane a few weeks ago.

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- Oh, you know, I remember someone years ago saying,

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really open my mind when someone said,

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"You know, the matrix is not a movie, it's a documentary."

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- Oh, I heard that, yeah.

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- I know, I can't, yeah, that really opened my eyes

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to the power of that film.

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- Right, so let's talk about waking up, right?

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The wake-up moment.

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You said that becoming a parent, when I researched you,

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you mentioned that becoming a parent really changed everything for you.

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So, take us back to that time in the late 30s, early 40s,

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when you suddenly said, "Whoa!"

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- Yeah, in your late 30, not the late 30s,

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but in his late 30s and 40s.

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The moment when you went, "Whoa, whoa!"

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- No, it's true, and I'm 51 now,

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and I did have my daughter in mid 30s and a son a few years after that.

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And I will, not law-related, but I will remember there was one moment,

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I was an avid reader of the newspaper my whole life.

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And I'm old enough to remember just the papers

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and would read it in the morning,

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and when it come in the afternoon in San Francisco,

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the Chronicle Examiner.

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really enjoyed it, and I'll never forget that my daughter is in a high,

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maybe eight months, 10 months, I forget.

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we're at our home back in the day,

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and I'm reading the New York Times,

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and then the top right, it always says,

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- And here I'm looking at the sweetest thing in the world,

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my little daughter, and then I'm looking at the New York Times.

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This is 2008, and it's,

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"Coo, murder, politics."

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There's not a bad, not a good thing at all on the front page,

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on the pot, you below,

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and I remember thinking, "Wait a minute,

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this is not all the news that's fit to print,

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as I'm looking at this new little angel next to me."

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And I canceled my subscription right then and there,

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called and said, "I'm done."

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my daughter was this beacon of perfection,

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but just you start looking at things differently,

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and you start looking at things beliefs or comments or culture

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that you look at, all the news that's fit to print.

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Okay, I trust the New York Times.

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There you go, I just, I didn't,

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I didn't trust it as much anymore.

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someone to protect, but also children,

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you learn patience, you learn to moderate tone,

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you learn a lot.

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So that was one moment I remembered

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that kind of just pulled me out of,

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momentarily, a lot of the beliefs that I had,

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and then what I was happy with is actually acted on it

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in this matrix.

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I actually canceled it, which was hard for me to do,

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because it was a real routine for me.

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on more of that spiritual journey.

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- Right, and we've talked a lot on the show

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about putting down the phone, moving away from media,

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disconnecting, being in the present moment,

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and enjoying the time that you have with your friends,

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your family, at the moment that you're having.

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- Mm-hmm.

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- There is, not to place the blame completely on the media,

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because it's coming at us from all different sides.

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I mean, social media even has the word media in it, right?

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'Cause it's coming from at us from all over the place.

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So how does someone actually take the leap

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and say, "I'm unplugging this thing from the back of my head

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and waking up to what life is actually about?"

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How does someone do that?

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- You know, I'll answer that, and a story came to mind.

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I was reading years ago, and there was an artist in France,

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and out of somewhere in Europe, and this woman,

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and, you know, beautiful garden,

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and they asked her what her favorite TV show was,

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and she said, "Why don't watch TV?

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"I don't wanna watch other people's lives.

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"I wanna live mine."

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And that always, always wrong with me,

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and I'm not saying you never watch TV.

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I'm a big sports fan.

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I love watching sports, but it really spurred me

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to kind of create my own, as opposed to just consuming,

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create my own.

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But one thing to really take that leap,

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and, you know, and pull that plug,

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is that it's not a leap at all.

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It's a baby step.

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And this is what we tell, you know, we help attorneys

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to leave the lawyer practice, and move into non-law careers.

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They love, they're good at, they're,

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pays them well, and so on.

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And that is one of the major issues they have is,

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"Oh my God, I have to quit my job now,

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"and what if the job doesn't work out?"

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And I'm saying, "You don't have to do anything right now."

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I'm asking you to take a baby step,

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a baby step might be signing up at our website.

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A baby step might be just going to admit

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there's a fear or a blocker.

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A baby step might be an informational interview,

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where you reach out to your nephew who works at Netflix

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and knows someone in the entertainment,

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and you literally go get coffee virtually,

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you're in person with the nephew,

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no one knows anything, you're not doing anything,

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you're not burning any bridges.

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And so it's really a baby step.

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And I can get into specific baby steps if you want,

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but the first thing I really like to get across is that,

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no giant leap is needed here.

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Small, iterative, gradual steps is really,

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and confidence, I'm confident and then I act.

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So flip, it's I act with a little smidge in a confidence,

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but I act and then the confidence grows.

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And that's really what the dynamic is.

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- Well I'm glad you brought that up.

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- I got it.

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- Because, and I do want to talk more specifically

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about the little steps that we can take,

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but you didn't take a baby step.

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- Yeah.

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- You were, you had a legal career

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that you just said, nope, and dropped it,

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and you took a baby step, not a baby step.

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- Yeah.

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- How did you, what made you do that?

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- Yeah, so as a little context, I always, you know,

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back I'm graduated college in 96,

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and graduated law school in '99, went straight into law school.

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I didn't, I wasn't a doctor, I was just,

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I talked well, so I love stories,

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so just go to law school.

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And back then, I talk about opportunity cost,

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there was this little company called Google,

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and Yahoo, down the road in Silicon Valley,

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I didn't even think about, right?

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Like, what if I had gone?

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So, and then went to law school,

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I got a good job, and then a great job in house council.

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I had the job everyone wanted from '01 to '05,

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but my friend always says, he says, you know,

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the best way to get Casey to leave your company

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is to promote him.

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And what he meant by that is, I don't,

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I don't want the corporate trappings.

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I'm a people, please, or I was more back then,

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so I was really, really good at the corporate ladder,

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and so on, and I could do a good job there,

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but just something, there was something inside of me.

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And so, but what happened in '04 or '05 when I left was,

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and I did, I, I leaped, and I remember my mom walking

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into my condo at the time in San Francisco,

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my little apartment, and she put a,

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she was nervous for me, of course, my mom had died,

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but she put a magnet that said, you know,

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leap in the net will appear, and I said,

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well, if my mom's okay with this,

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but I, I made a calculator,

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I've got money in the bank, but I just,

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I just, I left, I left in house council,

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I did software licensing, it was a dot com,

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it was a profitable company.

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- There was a pitch job.

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- Pitch job, a lot of money, I had the, you know,

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becoming general council in Silicon Valley path,

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but, you know, I was, I was like this every morning,

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I was negotiating agreements, I was,

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it was stressful, I had sales people, it was great,

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I loved the job, don't get me wrong,

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I absolutely loved this job, it was great,

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taught me a ton, over time though,

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I just wasn't aligned with it any more,

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and I just had to listen to that, because I knew,

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I'd be doing it, over time I'd be doing it for the money,

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I'd be doing it for the stature, I'd be doing it to,

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to please people, and so, yeah, before I got married in '04,

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I quit, had some money saved up,

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and I said, I'm gonna, I'm gonna figure this out,

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and I definitely had a lot of bumps and bruises,

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don't get me wrong, but that's,

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it's kind of my, just my personality, so,

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and I had a good support, my fiance,

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my now wife was very supportive of my family,

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and so I had support around me, but,

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but yeah, it wasn't, it wasn't easy at all,

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but it sort of felt to me like, to the point of the matrix,

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I was, there was just this voice, I was just listening to it,

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just I couldn't not do it.

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- Right, right.

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- Well, what's interesting to me is how difficult it can be,

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I guess, to stay unplugged, because it's easy to fall back

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into those routines, and I was speaking to someone today,

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who told me about a friend of hers, who had had cancer,

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and she had had a double mastectomy,

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and survived, and she was fine,

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it had been several years, cancer-free,

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and they were having a conversation,

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and she actually said, you know,

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I missed the time I had cancer,

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and my friend's like, why?

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And she said, because that's when I paid attention to life,

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that's when I noticed things, that's when I was present.

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And so she had this wake up call, this unplugging,

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but I guess, you know, life got in the way,

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or I don't know, but she kind of went back into it,

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so, so how do you do that?

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How do you stay unplugged when it's so easy

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to fall back into that trap?

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- Yeah, so I don't stay unplugged, but I recognize,

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when I'm plugged in, I recognize that I'm plugged in.

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I try to, that, okay, I am plugged in,

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and there are moments where I don't recognize I'm plugged in,

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but one way, I think Michael Singer talks about this,

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where he talks about how, you know, if we were to have all

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of our five cents, right now, if you watch a movie,

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James Bond, we hear what he hears, we see what he sees,

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but we still know we're Casey in the audience.

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Now, if we had, if we tasted what he tasted,

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if we felt what he felt, if we thought the five senses,

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plus thoughts and emotions, if we had all of those experiences

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of James Bond, we wouldn't be ourselves anymore,

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we'd be James Bond.

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And the issue is we are playing the role of Casey Berman,

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and I think I'm Casey Berman because I experience

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this matrix reality, construction world,

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whatever you wanna call it through my five senses,

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which by the way, are all coming in, you know,

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you don't taste the out, you taste in, right?

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You don't hear out, you hear, and then I have thoughts

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and emotions.

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So those seven ways of sensing things is me in this movie.

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So when I can pull out of that meditation,

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quieting the thoughts, pulling out and kinda look at myself,

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which is so hard to do, but when I can do that,

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then I am observing my own movie,

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in the same way I'm looking at James Bond on the screen.

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So there's two ways I do it.

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One, when I'm plugged in, I try my best to say,

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okay, I'm plugged in.

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The other way is to actually unplug by finding one of those seven,

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usually the thoughts, one of those seven to kinda collapse

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that one, that thought.

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And so when I do that, it's a bit of an escape valve

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for eight seconds, 10 seconds.

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And I'm able to look at myself as that impartial observer.

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It's very difficult, I forget to do it,

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'cause it's so fun to be angry, is it?

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(laughing)

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Yeah, well, I've got a, I've got a,

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Eckhart Tolly talks about the fear body,

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sorry, the pain body, and it makes a lot of sense,

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and we're going to dive into that at some point in the future.

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However, I hope that makes sense though,

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but that's kinda how I'm plugged in.

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- Absolutely, yeah.

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And I really appreciate your perspective,

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'cause some people are like, well, just,

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once you're unplugged, it's just easy.

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You're in this bliss, so I'm like, okay,

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and here's our real guy, telling us a real experience

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that I think we can all understand and relate to.

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- Right, so the key to what you said earlier,

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the key to what you said to me was,

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you were no longer aligned with what you were doing.

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And I think that is such the crux of this conversation,

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because I think more and more people are feeling

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misaligned with what they're doing,

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but they feel like they got to go and get handcuffs on,

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they feel it's impossible for them to get out of what they're doing.

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So this brings me now to, if you feel misaligned,

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if people walking around in complete autopilot,

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a lot of us are, let's talk about these baby steps.

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How do we get out of the matrix?

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Give me some examples of what specifically

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someone can do.

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- No, I'll lay out our process now,

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so grab an old-school pen and paper if you want.

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You know, we're going a little touchy-feely.

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(laughing)

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- I'm ready, I've got my paper and my pen.

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- Go, go.

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No, but for everyone listening,

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happy to take it through, I want this to be

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as actionable as possible.

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And, you know, I go this route, but as you can tell,

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I'm a type A, I deal with lawyers who don't put up

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with any of this and, you know, just action, action, action.

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And so I try to find that way of showing how

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getting into the zone, I'm a sports fan,

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who are more tough than sports stars, right?

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But you see the most successful ones,

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Tom Brady talked about a lot, you just get in the zone.

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You're not even thinking, you're just feeling,

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it is, is it feel?

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So, the process really is, the first step really, baby step,

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is to overcome or mitigate or move forward

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not with standing of your fears.

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So recognize blockers, recognize,

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oh, I'm not afraid of anything, know you are.

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(laughing)

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- Yeah, I'll get you some.

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- Conscious, they're subcont, golden handcuffs,

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I'll never make money out of the law or in another job.

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This is the best I'll do, my parents will be disappointed.

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It'll take so long, big fears, small fears,

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however you classify them,

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but the first step really is just to settle,

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just to observe what's getting in the way.

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What's the blocker, the fear, the doubt as you mentioned.

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That's really the first step.

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Kind of step one point, one to be or step two

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is around identity, a lot of lawyers have this.

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So this could be a blocker, you can separate it all,

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also, but what is, how is my identity tie?

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So the James Bond, Casey Berman,

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I'm not really Casey Berman here,

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I mean, quantum physicists have said,

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like this doesn't exist, I believe my bones

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in the concrete exists, but it really, really doesn't.

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When it comes to the physics of it all,

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but I'm in here, I'm plugged in,

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I'm gonna believe that this hand exists, okay.

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I believe there's an identity of Casey Berman,

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I'm a lawyer, I have my glasses, I wear glasses, I'm smart,

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I'm manly, whatever your identity is,

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looking at your identity, because particularly from unplugging

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from a career from that auto zone,

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some of the time reasons were in that auto way

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is because we think our identity is tied to it.

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Well, I'm miserable as an attorney,

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but I love telling people that a cocktail party, I'm a lawyer.

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First of all, you don't go to cocktail parties anymore,

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you're working every weekend, but there's that identity, right?

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So, and even non-law, just anyone, I'm a podcast host,

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I'm a this, I'm a creator, whatever it is, I didn't.

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Okay.

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The third step, I hope I'm not going too fast,

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but the third step is very important.

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Now, this is, once you kinda get the blockers

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and what's going on here, what's the framework,

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what's the environment, the sandbox, if you will,

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what am I good at?

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This is what we call your unique genus,

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your skills and strengths and enjoyments,

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and we do an audit, them, there's three questions,

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I'll say it slowly, ask your network,

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what am I good at, compliment me?

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Second, what advice do you come to me for?

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Size Legal Advice or Accounting Advice or whatever.

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And third, what have I done or what do I do for free?

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Those get to what you enjoy, what you're good at,

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and how you add value.

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Gather all of these traits.

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You know, Casey, you plan parties well,

481
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you're the one with the good music,

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you're the one who puts IKEA tables together,

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you're the one that's always great at conversation,

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you listen while you're empathetic,

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you're great, stored, whatever they say about you.

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Okay.

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You gather at all and we do this and leave a lot behind,

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but we have like buckets, you just kind of organize it.

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And it's kind of qualitative,

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but interpersonal or schmoozer,

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or I'm the more behind the scenes,

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how do you want to organize it?

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Now you have sort of this skeleton

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of where your skills and strengths fall.

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If you have no skills and strengths

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under schmoozer network or guess what,

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you're not going to go into sales.

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If your skills and strengths are under

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your traffic controller, adult in the room,

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okay, let's look at compliance,

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looks look at trust and safety.

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And so then what we do then, there are a lot of jobs

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that fall in these buckets.

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So the method of the madness is just to see your skills

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and strengths, how you've organized them.

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And that's how we organize it,

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you can organize it any way you want.

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And then match jobs that are calling for those skills

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00:19:52,760 --> 00:19:53,720
and strengths.

510
00:19:53,720 --> 00:19:55,320
So I often say a job,

511
00:19:55,320 --> 00:19:57,080
if you remember Casper, the friendly ghost,

512
00:19:57,080 --> 00:20:00,280
the only way to see that paranormal phenomena

513
00:20:00,280 --> 00:20:01,600
is to throw a sheet over it,

514
00:20:01,600 --> 00:20:04,320
to throw sand on it, or dust or something.

515
00:20:04,320 --> 00:20:07,800
Well, that's all a job is because your skills

516
00:20:07,800 --> 00:20:09,360
and strengths are invisible.

517
00:20:09,360 --> 00:20:11,440
Do we really see detail oriented?

518
00:20:11,440 --> 00:20:13,320
No, no, no, we see the results of it.

519
00:20:13,320 --> 00:20:16,120
But I don't see it, I don't taste it.

520
00:20:16,120 --> 00:20:20,520
People, but jobs are that sheet or that sand

521
00:20:20,520 --> 00:20:24,280
that give form to your invisible skills and strengths.

522
00:20:24,280 --> 00:20:25,120
Right?

523
00:20:25,120 --> 00:20:26,880
So you do this audit of your skills and strengths.

524
00:20:26,880 --> 00:20:28,440
There's a few more steps that will stop there

525
00:20:28,440 --> 00:20:29,680
in case you have any questions about that.

526
00:20:29,680 --> 00:20:32,640
Yeah, no, I've just statement that I,

527
00:20:32,640 --> 00:20:38,200
I've been taking strength assessment tests

528
00:20:38,200 --> 00:20:41,560
and personality assessment and all,

529
00:20:41,560 --> 00:20:44,280
trying to figure out where do I fit in.

530
00:20:44,280 --> 00:20:49,280
Never once did I consider asking my network.

531
00:20:49,280 --> 00:20:50,200
(laughs)

532
00:20:50,200 --> 00:20:51,200
Yeah.

533
00:20:51,200 --> 00:20:52,200
Those questions.

534
00:20:52,200 --> 00:20:53,480
Three, five, seven people, that's it.

535
00:20:53,480 --> 00:20:55,360
Wow, that's amazing.

536
00:20:55,360 --> 00:20:56,880
I hadn't thought of that at all.

537
00:20:56,880 --> 00:20:58,200
Now I know what I'm gonna do tomorrow.

538
00:20:58,200 --> 00:21:00,120
I have the script, I have the script, I can send,

539
00:21:00,120 --> 00:21:02,280
I can post it for you, you know, the script you can use.

540
00:21:02,280 --> 00:21:04,040
Some will say, thank you, by the way,

541
00:21:04,040 --> 00:21:06,560
some will say, oh, you know, touchy feeling,

542
00:21:06,560 --> 00:21:07,880
I don't want, okay, fine, don't,

543
00:21:08,240 --> 00:21:11,000
don't, do most people, if not all will say,

544
00:21:11,000 --> 00:21:12,200
I am honored.

545
00:21:12,200 --> 00:21:14,000
I'm more than happy to give this to you.

546
00:21:14,000 --> 00:21:15,400
Oh, that's very cool.

547
00:21:15,400 --> 00:21:17,720
So if you're listening right now

548
00:21:17,720 --> 00:21:21,240
and you would like to give me some feedback,

549
00:21:21,240 --> 00:21:22,840
now they probably don't know me well enough, right?

550
00:21:22,840 --> 00:21:23,680
Oh, yeah.

551
00:21:23,680 --> 00:21:24,840
No.

552
00:21:24,840 --> 00:21:26,480
Just a thought, anyway.

553
00:21:26,480 --> 00:21:27,480
'Cause I don't have a lot of friends,

554
00:21:27,480 --> 00:21:28,800
so I just figured, you know, people would listen.

555
00:21:28,800 --> 00:21:30,520
I have friends, oh my gosh.

556
00:21:30,520 --> 00:21:33,040
I could do a quick, you need genius analysis on you.

557
00:21:33,040 --> 00:21:35,480
If you'd want, you know, you, you,

558
00:21:35,480 --> 00:21:37,400
the banter, you're very quick, right?

559
00:21:37,400 --> 00:21:39,360
You're a storyteller, you're very quick,

560
00:21:39,360 --> 00:21:41,800
you think quickly, extremely empathetic.

561
00:21:41,800 --> 00:21:44,560
I assume I'm just meeting you now, but extremely empathetic.

562
00:21:44,560 --> 00:21:47,680
Probably you can do the details if you needed to,

563
00:21:47,680 --> 00:21:50,040
but I don't know if detail oriented is,

564
00:21:50,040 --> 00:21:52,760
is like what you should be, the tip of the spear, if you will.

565
00:21:52,760 --> 00:21:54,880
So I could go on and on, but these are some

566
00:21:54,880 --> 00:21:56,200
that I'm just picking up.

567
00:21:56,200 --> 00:21:57,040
- Wow.

568
00:21:57,040 --> 00:21:57,880
- Right? - Yeah.

569
00:21:57,880 --> 00:21:59,280
- I don't know if they're, if I fit,

570
00:21:59,280 --> 00:22:01,080
but maybe, but like that being an example

571
00:22:01,080 --> 00:22:02,880
where someone you know would say, boom, boom, boom,

572
00:22:02,880 --> 00:22:04,440
and list all of that out,

573
00:22:04,440 --> 00:22:06,200
the good thing is some of it, you're gonna nod your head

574
00:22:06,200 --> 00:22:07,240
and go, oh, I knew that.

575
00:22:07,240 --> 00:22:08,360
I knew that.

576
00:22:08,360 --> 00:22:11,080
One, that confirms it, makes you more confident,

577
00:22:11,080 --> 00:22:13,680
but two, there will be new things they'll tell you

578
00:22:13,680 --> 00:22:16,080
that you didn't know you were good at, you know what I'm saying?

579
00:22:16,080 --> 00:22:17,360
- Like your blind spot, right?

580
00:22:17,360 --> 00:22:20,040
I had no idea I was good with chickens.

581
00:22:20,040 --> 00:22:22,000
(laughing)

582
00:22:22,000 --> 00:22:23,280
- So good at random.

583
00:22:23,280 --> 00:22:24,880
- Those factory friends.

584
00:22:24,880 --> 00:22:27,600
- As long as I grease pigs, I'm good.

585
00:22:27,600 --> 00:22:28,600
(laughing)

586
00:22:28,600 --> 00:22:33,280
- So we, okay, so let me take the next two steps real quickly.

587
00:22:33,280 --> 00:22:34,520
(bell rings)

588
00:22:34,520 --> 00:22:35,800
- We need to take a quick pause,

589
00:22:35,800 --> 00:22:38,160
but would you write back what it looked at these messages?

590
00:22:38,160 --> 00:22:42,160
And now back to the show.

591
00:22:42,160 --> 00:22:43,480
(bell rings)

592
00:22:43,480 --> 00:22:44,640
- All right, let's do it.

593
00:22:44,640 --> 00:22:46,080
- So you overcome your fears,

594
00:22:46,080 --> 00:22:47,120
find out what you're really good at,

595
00:22:47,120 --> 00:22:49,160
scouting your port for any sports fans out there.

596
00:22:49,160 --> 00:22:51,120
Okay, then what you do is, like we said,

597
00:22:51,120 --> 00:22:53,440
you find the jobs that align with it.

598
00:22:53,440 --> 00:22:55,720
Okay, so a sales job calls Schemoozer thing.

599
00:22:55,720 --> 00:22:57,760
If it's, we have a bunch of jobs,

600
00:22:57,760 --> 00:22:59,240
I'm happy to send more info,

601
00:22:59,240 --> 00:23:01,000
but you find jobs that align with the call

602
00:23:01,000 --> 00:23:02,040
for your skills and strengths,

603
00:23:02,040 --> 00:23:04,160
'cause remember a job, a job description

604
00:23:04,160 --> 00:23:05,680
is really just a call for help.

605
00:23:05,680 --> 00:23:07,480
We need help, we have a pain, we have a gap.

606
00:23:07,480 --> 00:23:09,960
And then finally you get out there and you network.

607
00:23:09,960 --> 00:23:12,520
Now, before I say the networking word, which I know everyone,

608
00:23:12,520 --> 00:23:16,000
I'm not saying go talk to everybody at the golf club in Schemoozer.

609
00:23:16,000 --> 00:23:19,640
It's real, now that you've done the unigeness work,

610
00:23:19,640 --> 00:23:22,680
and you've identified the job or jobs,

611
00:23:22,680 --> 00:23:25,160
two or three jobs that you're a fit for,

612
00:23:25,160 --> 00:23:26,760
that you had value for,

613
00:23:26,760 --> 00:23:28,320
it's very focused networking.

614
00:23:28,320 --> 00:23:29,960
That's who you network with.

615
00:23:29,960 --> 00:23:31,880
People who are in those roles,

616
00:23:31,880 --> 00:23:33,400
adjacent to those roles,

617
00:23:33,400 --> 00:23:36,000
and you can apply online, but let's be honest,

618
00:23:36,000 --> 00:23:38,960
you're not gonna find many jobs on a job board.

619
00:23:38,960 --> 00:23:42,320
You then reach out and do informational interviews or coffee chats.

620
00:23:42,320 --> 00:23:44,400
Hey, well, I know you do such and such,

621
00:23:44,400 --> 00:23:46,760
or your nephew does such and such.

622
00:23:46,760 --> 00:23:48,480
Can I take 20 minutes, just kind of ask,

623
00:23:48,480 --> 00:23:50,480
and you keep doing these conversations,

624
00:23:50,480 --> 00:23:52,200
you got your spiel down, your tight,

625
00:23:52,200 --> 00:23:53,280
you've done an auto skill, the straights,

626
00:23:53,280 --> 00:23:54,320
you present very well,

627
00:23:54,320 --> 00:23:56,520
and finally someone is gonna say,

628
00:23:56,520 --> 00:23:57,560
you know what, I'm saying,

629
00:23:57,560 --> 00:23:59,200
"Semoo you're resume."

630
00:23:59,200 --> 00:24:02,160
We don't have a job opening, but we might,

631
00:24:02,160 --> 00:24:04,320
let me get you into our system.

632
00:24:04,320 --> 00:24:05,400
Three months later,

633
00:24:05,400 --> 00:24:07,640
you're creating the job description with them,

634
00:24:07,640 --> 00:24:08,880
I see it happen all the time, so.

635
00:24:08,880 --> 00:24:09,880
- Well, well. - I pause there,

636
00:24:09,880 --> 00:24:12,440
but those are really the baby steps that you can take

637
00:24:12,440 --> 00:24:15,560
to kind of unplug out of a career that you don't like,

638
00:24:15,560 --> 00:24:18,480
and really start moving actionably, realistically,

639
00:24:18,480 --> 00:24:20,720
into something, just can take three, six months.

640
00:24:20,720 --> 00:24:22,040
I mean, if you really wanna do this,

641
00:24:22,040 --> 00:24:23,840
be careful what you ask for, it may happen, so.

642
00:24:23,840 --> 00:24:26,120
- See, I love this though, because it's like you said,

643
00:24:26,120 --> 00:24:29,240
you don't have to just, like, cut the cord, you know,

644
00:24:29,240 --> 00:24:31,720
because a lot of people don't have money saved up,

645
00:24:31,720 --> 00:24:33,360
you know, they're working, you know,

646
00:24:33,360 --> 00:24:34,520
they're living paycheck to paycheck,

647
00:24:34,520 --> 00:24:36,840
and so this is an easy way for them to start

648
00:24:36,840 --> 00:24:38,880
without jeopardizing their current situations,

649
00:24:38,880 --> 00:24:39,880
still being able to pay the rent,

650
00:24:39,880 --> 00:24:41,040
feed the kids and all of that.

651
00:24:41,040 --> 00:24:43,040
- And do stuff as much more aligned with what they wanna do,

652
00:24:43,040 --> 00:24:44,560
or the thing that they wanna call.

653
00:24:44,560 --> 00:24:46,200
- Yeah, that's fantastic, thank you.

654
00:24:46,200 --> 00:24:47,120
- That's a big money.

655
00:24:47,120 --> 00:24:49,000
We talk about money, we have a home module about money,

656
00:24:49,000 --> 00:24:50,880
we talk, we're very open up money, I always say,

657
00:24:50,880 --> 00:24:55,680
I never want you to trade a job, you have anxiety about

658
00:24:55,680 --> 00:24:59,200
for the anxiety of not being able to pay your bills.

659
00:24:59,200 --> 00:25:00,560
Don't make that trade.

660
00:25:00,560 --> 00:25:03,080
Keep that job you don't like to keep that money coming in

661
00:25:03,080 --> 00:25:04,840
and just do this on the side.

662
00:25:04,840 --> 00:25:07,760
Even with people who have little time, it is possible.

663
00:25:07,760 --> 00:25:10,120
- Yeah, that's great, that's really great.

664
00:25:10,120 --> 00:25:12,880
- So, how do people know?

665
00:25:12,880 --> 00:25:17,680
'Cause there are some smells like running around out there.

666
00:25:17,680 --> 00:25:21,440
Some people might be in the room.

667
00:25:21,440 --> 00:25:23,040
- Except for you don't run.

668
00:25:23,040 --> 00:25:23,880
- Oh, dang.

669
00:25:23,880 --> 00:25:25,320
(laughing)

670
00:25:25,320 --> 00:25:26,160
- I run, I just run.

671
00:25:26,160 --> 00:25:28,560
- You're walking around out there, I just run funny,

672
00:25:28,560 --> 00:25:29,880
that's all.

673
00:25:29,880 --> 00:25:30,720
- My nose runs all the time.

674
00:25:30,720 --> 00:25:31,880
- Oh, ew.

675
00:25:31,880 --> 00:25:34,880
- So, there are a lot of people out there who maybe,

676
00:25:34,880 --> 00:25:38,680
they're feeling like, blase, they're on autopilot,

677
00:25:38,680 --> 00:25:42,520
they don't know, truly that something's not aligned.

678
00:25:42,520 --> 00:25:47,520
How does someone identify the fact that they need to make

679
00:25:47,520 --> 00:25:48,760
a move?

680
00:25:48,760 --> 00:25:55,440
- If they're feeling blase, that's a good indicator.

681
00:25:55,440 --> 00:25:58,160
But I think, I guess what you're saying is,

682
00:25:58,160 --> 00:26:01,560
if they're not in tune, how will they hear that signal?

683
00:26:01,560 --> 00:26:03,720
- Yeah, you are. - How will they, yeah.

684
00:26:03,720 --> 00:26:05,520
Many don't, many don't,

685
00:26:05,520 --> 00:26:07,840
and hopefully they stumble across your podcast.

686
00:26:07,840 --> 00:26:11,120
Hopefully they, I will tell you what hit me.

687
00:26:11,120 --> 00:26:14,840
And I would just tell folks that even if you're blase

688
00:26:14,840 --> 00:26:18,360
or just in a slumber and so on, you're not awake yet,

689
00:26:18,360 --> 00:26:20,160
I get it, we've all been there.

690
00:26:20,160 --> 00:26:22,400
One real quick story about how it hit me.

691
00:26:22,400 --> 00:26:24,200
I was feeling a little disgruntled with things

692
00:26:24,200 --> 00:26:27,200
and then we had an all hands meeting.

693
00:26:27,200 --> 00:26:29,360
I was in San Francisco, we had our headquarters

694
00:26:29,360 --> 00:26:31,760
was in London and flew there.

695
00:26:31,760 --> 00:26:32,600
They had a bunch of people,

696
00:26:32,600 --> 00:26:34,080
everyone meeting each other and they put,

697
00:26:34,080 --> 00:26:36,480
our name tags and they had our department on there.

698
00:26:36,480 --> 00:26:39,640
And I was in House Council and VP of Operations.

699
00:26:39,640 --> 00:26:41,680
And I was under the admin group.

700
00:26:41,680 --> 00:26:47,160
Now, no knock on anyone who does administration or admin,

701
00:26:47,160 --> 00:26:48,720
it just wasn't for me.

702
00:26:48,720 --> 00:26:51,520
And when I saw the words admin, administration,

703
00:26:51,520 --> 00:26:56,520
is that what I did, I said, oh, that got me.

704
00:26:56,800 --> 00:27:00,640
And because I knew that I wasn't aligned with that.

705
00:27:00,640 --> 00:27:03,000
For me, I wanted to be in front of the customers,

706
00:27:03,000 --> 00:27:05,480
I wanted to be listening to people I wanted to speak,

707
00:27:05,480 --> 00:27:07,400
I wanted to be creating something.

708
00:27:07,400 --> 00:27:09,800
And again, no knock on admin operations,

709
00:27:09,800 --> 00:27:12,680
that's needed, it definitely just wasn't for me.

710
00:27:12,680 --> 00:27:15,440
And so I got great teaching and operations,

711
00:27:15,440 --> 00:27:18,000
I got that great grounding, great role.

712
00:27:18,000 --> 00:27:21,240
But at that point, it took me about nine months later

713
00:27:21,240 --> 00:27:24,440
before I left, but at that point, I was listening

714
00:27:24,440 --> 00:27:26,840
as much as I was just kind of in a stupor,

715
00:27:26,840 --> 00:27:30,320
when I saw that on my name, it woke me up.

716
00:27:30,320 --> 00:27:34,480
So sometimes be open to the smallest things

717
00:27:34,480 --> 00:27:37,880
that can get you out of that blasey vibe.

718
00:27:37,880 --> 00:27:39,760
- So then what would you,

719
00:27:39,760 --> 00:27:43,720
so talk about the blasey vibe, you know, it's not terrible,

720
00:27:43,720 --> 00:27:45,440
it's not great, man, it's easy.

721
00:27:45,440 --> 00:27:47,360
I'm in this rut, I'm fine.

722
00:27:47,360 --> 00:27:50,120
What would you say to someone, like,

723
00:27:50,120 --> 00:27:53,760
what's the best thing that has happened for you

724
00:27:53,760 --> 00:27:58,520
or the feeling that you've had since you've gotten unplugged?

725
00:27:58,520 --> 00:28:00,640
Like, what would make it worth it to someone to make the effort

726
00:28:00,640 --> 00:28:04,080
if they're just like coasting along and they don't really care?

727
00:28:04,080 --> 00:28:06,480
- So this is gonna sound weird, but the most,

728
00:28:06,480 --> 00:28:10,560
the best thing that has happened to me

729
00:28:10,560 --> 00:28:13,560
is personal responsibility.

730
00:28:13,560 --> 00:28:15,640
And what I mean by that is I learned this

731
00:28:15,640 --> 00:28:19,440
that every, the flip side of a right is responsibility.

732
00:28:19,440 --> 00:28:20,720
So we have a right to free speech,

733
00:28:20,720 --> 00:28:22,560
but you can't say it in a crowded,

734
00:28:22,560 --> 00:28:24,240
can't yell fire in a crowded theater, right?

735
00:28:24,240 --> 00:28:25,840
That's obviously useful.

736
00:28:25,840 --> 00:28:28,200
But we have a right to entrepreneurship

737
00:28:28,200 --> 00:28:29,800
and hustle and leaving all

738
00:28:29,800 --> 00:28:33,880
and doing what you wanna do, the responsibility is work,

739
00:28:33,880 --> 00:28:35,720
get up in the morning and do it.

740
00:28:35,720 --> 00:28:37,520
We have a right to do a podcast,

741
00:28:37,520 --> 00:28:39,840
but the responsibility is all the work

742
00:28:39,840 --> 00:28:41,040
that for instance you two,

743
00:28:41,040 --> 00:28:43,920
but do behind the scenes at none of a see, right?

744
00:28:43,920 --> 00:28:46,400
And so there's that responsibility that goes with it

745
00:28:46,400 --> 00:28:48,560
and it is nerve wrecking, it's scary.

746
00:28:48,560 --> 00:28:51,280
I mean, I had passed week or two or three,

747
00:28:51,280 --> 00:28:54,760
I have had some very unmotivated times

748
00:28:54,760 --> 00:28:58,360
and I am just what's going on with me, you know?

749
00:28:58,360 --> 00:29:01,320
And just, and I've had to get out of it

750
00:29:01,320 --> 00:29:04,440
by literally writing this small email or something

751
00:29:04,440 --> 00:29:07,640
and it led me to working late in the evening, which is fine,

752
00:29:07,640 --> 00:29:09,400
but you know, I'm getting done at 8.30 pm

753
00:29:09,400 --> 00:29:11,280
when I should have been done at 3.30 pm

754
00:29:11,280 --> 00:29:16,280
because I just, I just, so it's that responsibility aspect,

755
00:29:16,280 --> 00:29:19,440
that I know sounds crazy

756
00:29:19,440 --> 00:29:21,320
and a lot of people don't want responsibility,

757
00:29:21,320 --> 00:29:25,160
but it's just so, it's so empowering for me.

758
00:29:25,160 --> 00:29:28,200
Now I think at, in a much less dramatic way,

759
00:29:28,200 --> 00:29:31,560
I think what's great for me is that I,

760
00:29:31,560 --> 00:29:32,600
there's a freedom about it.

761
00:29:32,600 --> 00:29:34,120
I have a lot of work to do, don't get me wrong,

762
00:29:34,120 --> 00:29:37,800
but there's a freedom about how I create my day

763
00:29:37,800 --> 00:29:41,600
and I have to get up early, the kids school,

764
00:29:41,600 --> 00:29:42,640
get them out and so on,

765
00:29:42,640 --> 00:29:44,760
so it's not, like I'm sleeping until noon every day,

766
00:29:44,760 --> 00:29:47,040
but there's just a freedom to it.

767
00:29:47,040 --> 00:29:48,800
If I want to, I take off.

768
00:29:48,800 --> 00:29:50,800
I block off my Fridays.

769
00:29:50,800 --> 00:29:52,360
I block off from this.

770
00:29:52,360 --> 00:29:53,520
I do somewhere, but I just block off.

771
00:29:53,520 --> 00:29:56,000
So it's these little day-to-day things.

772
00:29:56,000 --> 00:29:58,400
One last thing I play baseball here, believe it or not,

773
00:29:58,400 --> 00:29:59,920
I'm way too old for this, but there's a league here

774
00:29:59,920 --> 00:30:01,400
or a men's league, we have uniforms and everything.

775
00:30:01,400 --> 00:30:02,640
- Oh, so jealous.

776
00:30:02,640 --> 00:30:03,680
I'm so jealous.

777
00:30:03,680 --> 00:30:06,040
- My wife always says, don't hurt yourself, you know?

778
00:30:06,040 --> 00:30:09,520
One guy said to me, he's like, come on down,

779
00:30:09,520 --> 00:30:10,440
we're doing some practice.

780
00:30:10,440 --> 00:30:12,680
I was like, I can't, I'll be, I can't make it,

781
00:30:12,680 --> 00:30:13,760
you know, I have something and he says,

782
00:30:13,760 --> 00:30:15,400
Casey, you don't have a job.

783
00:30:15,400 --> 00:30:17,000
You don't work, come on, you know.

784
00:30:17,000 --> 00:30:17,840
- Oh.

785
00:30:17,840 --> 00:30:20,400
- But I took it as a compliment, because they don't even know

786
00:30:20,400 --> 00:30:21,720
what I do.

787
00:30:21,720 --> 00:30:22,560
- Right.

788
00:30:22,560 --> 00:30:25,920
- I create content, I'm on a phone, I work in my house

789
00:30:25,920 --> 00:30:28,360
somewhere, like, what does this guy even do?

790
00:30:28,360 --> 00:30:32,920
So one of the cool things is having people and what do you do?

791
00:30:32,920 --> 00:30:34,960
I can't even comprehend, get my arms around it.

792
00:30:34,960 --> 00:30:37,320
So those are some of the perks or some of the things

793
00:30:37,320 --> 00:30:42,320
I enjoy after having, after I've unplugged into a certain extent.

794
00:30:42,320 --> 00:30:45,160
- I think that freedom is really attractive to a lot of people.

795
00:30:45,160 --> 00:30:46,000
- No questions.

796
00:30:46,000 --> 00:30:49,080
So that brings me to my next point, man, next question.

797
00:30:49,080 --> 00:30:52,400
What if your, what you're being called to do,

798
00:30:52,400 --> 00:30:55,400
what you're more lined with is not a job,

799
00:30:55,400 --> 00:30:59,480
but rather it is a, to be a digital nomad

800
00:30:59,480 --> 00:31:02,840
or to travel around the world and help people

801
00:31:02,840 --> 00:31:04,280
with their spiritual awakening.

802
00:31:04,280 --> 00:31:09,080
So whatever it is, how does someone move into that space?

803
00:31:09,080 --> 00:31:10,880
If that's what they're being called to do?

804
00:31:10,880 --> 00:31:15,160
- So there's a few things to think about.

805
00:31:15,160 --> 00:31:18,200
Remember, unique genius, what are your skills and strengths?

806
00:31:18,200 --> 00:31:20,480
Because people will say, what should I do?

807
00:31:20,480 --> 00:31:23,000
And they'll say, you know, I wanna go into media.

808
00:31:23,000 --> 00:31:25,400
I wanna be a digital nomad.

809
00:31:25,400 --> 00:31:27,480
Okay, that's not what you're doing.

810
00:31:27,480 --> 00:31:28,920
That's the sandbox you're playing in.

811
00:31:28,920 --> 00:31:30,360
That's the industry you're in.

812
00:31:30,360 --> 00:31:33,200
So the first thing is, if you're gonna be a digital nomad

813
00:31:33,200 --> 00:31:35,280
or you're gonna be a coach, again,

814
00:31:35,280 --> 00:31:37,160
what are your skills and strengths?

815
00:31:37,160 --> 00:31:39,320
What are, I always go back to that

816
00:31:39,320 --> 00:31:41,080
because if you wanna be a digital nomad,

817
00:31:41,080 --> 00:31:44,640
but you're not good at,

818
00:31:44,640 --> 00:31:47,000
I mean, digital nomad could be anything, could be a coach,

819
00:31:47,000 --> 00:31:48,360
could be a copywriter, could be anything.

820
00:31:48,360 --> 00:31:49,840
So what are your skills and strengths?

821
00:31:49,840 --> 00:31:51,080
That's the first step.

822
00:31:51,080 --> 00:31:53,840
But if they do wanna go be a digital nomad,

823
00:31:53,840 --> 00:31:58,840
then to do that is to physically break free

824
00:31:58,840 --> 00:32:03,120
from a lot of the confines of the subway

825
00:32:03,120 --> 00:32:07,120
and going into an office building and all of that.

826
00:32:07,120 --> 00:32:10,440
And then just learning what you're the new routine.

827
00:32:10,440 --> 00:32:11,760
And I've had to do that.

828
00:32:11,760 --> 00:32:12,880
I mean, I've had to scramble again

829
00:32:12,880 --> 00:32:15,880
and get a connection in Italy and in the Middle East

830
00:32:15,880 --> 00:32:19,200
and places and see, that's pretty bad ass.

831
00:32:19,200 --> 00:32:20,800
- Yeah, I don't feel sorry for you.

832
00:32:20,800 --> 00:32:22,800
- No, no, no, no, that's pretty bad ass.

833
00:32:22,800 --> 00:32:25,320
So, yeah, yeah, yeah.

834
00:32:25,320 --> 00:32:27,760
So the answer is about how do they do it?

835
00:32:27,760 --> 00:32:31,880
It's, again, baby steps, go talk to people who are doing it,

836
00:32:31,880 --> 00:32:33,300
start it on the side,

837
00:32:33,300 --> 00:32:34,720
leave all behind with start on the side,

838
00:32:34,720 --> 00:32:36,000
while I had a W2 paycheck.

839
00:32:36,000 --> 00:32:38,880
So start it on the side, start building it.

840
00:32:38,880 --> 00:32:42,800
I will always say, something should remain a hobby.

841
00:32:42,800 --> 00:32:44,600
- Should remain a hobby.

842
00:32:44,600 --> 00:32:46,600
- Right, not everything needs to be a job.

843
00:32:46,600 --> 00:32:48,280
- Thus my baseball playing.

844
00:32:48,280 --> 00:32:50,600
- Yeah. (laughing)

845
00:32:50,600 --> 00:32:55,760
- I bet at the bottom of the order, I'm just having fun.

846
00:32:55,760 --> 00:32:59,000
So, but yeah, there's just so many ways,

847
00:32:59,000 --> 00:33:01,440
opportunity, I think what it really takes is that energy.

848
00:33:01,440 --> 00:33:02,920
I mean, I was, leave all behind,

849
00:33:02,920 --> 00:33:05,600
I was writing blog posts at 11 o'clock at night.

850
00:33:05,600 --> 00:33:07,960
You have to, there is a little bit of that hustle

851
00:33:07,960 --> 00:33:09,280
and get it going, not forever,

852
00:33:09,280 --> 00:33:11,120
but you have to, you gotta put the fingers

853
00:33:11,120 --> 00:33:12,960
on the keyboard sometimes, and get it done.

854
00:33:12,960 --> 00:33:15,000
- And what if someone doesn't wanna work at all?

855
00:33:15,000 --> 00:33:16,000
(laughing)

856
00:33:16,000 --> 00:33:18,240
Is there a plan for that?

857
00:33:18,240 --> 00:33:19,680
- That's a whole different lifestyle, but yeah.

858
00:33:19,680 --> 00:33:22,520
- It is, I guess that bridge is pretty comfy, right?

859
00:33:22,520 --> 00:33:23,920
- It is.

860
00:33:23,920 --> 00:33:28,080
- Now, being a lawyer here depends how you define work, right?

861
00:33:28,080 --> 00:33:31,720
So if someone doesn't wanna work in the traditional sense,

862
00:33:31,720 --> 00:33:36,280
being told what to do, being for profit, for shareholders,

863
00:33:36,280 --> 00:33:37,600
yeah, I get it.

864
00:33:37,600 --> 00:33:39,920
But if someone wants to create,

865
00:33:39,920 --> 00:33:41,880
kind of have their own vibe with Chachibit,

866
00:33:41,880 --> 00:33:43,920
now you've got your own assistant,

867
00:33:43,920 --> 00:33:46,640
some people won't view that as work, right?

868
00:33:46,640 --> 00:33:48,920
What will happen then is, okay, great, I can do all this,

869
00:33:48,920 --> 00:33:52,040
what happens then is, then the imposter syndrome,

870
00:33:52,040 --> 00:33:54,160
who am I to have my own podcast?

871
00:33:54,160 --> 00:33:56,000
Who am I to have my own blog?

872
00:33:56,000 --> 00:33:59,040
Who am I to become a coach, right?

873
00:33:59,040 --> 00:34:01,960
Then a lot of that can come, and that can block you.

874
00:34:01,960 --> 00:34:02,800
- Right.

875
00:34:02,800 --> 00:34:06,040
Do you believe that we as a society,

876
00:34:06,920 --> 00:34:11,400
as a whole are waking up to these kinds of messages,

877
00:34:11,400 --> 00:34:13,880
or is it just specific people?

878
00:34:13,880 --> 00:34:17,520
- I do believe that we as a society,

879
00:34:17,520 --> 00:34:21,960
macro and micro, I think that the internet, obviously,

880
00:34:21,960 --> 00:34:23,840
has been a phenomenal way to do it,

881
00:34:23,840 --> 00:34:26,680
because back in the day, you were listening to Tony Robbins,

882
00:34:26,680 --> 00:34:31,680
DVDs, or, you know, by books, Napoleon Hill,

883
00:34:31,680 --> 00:34:33,560
and things along those lines, I mean,

884
00:34:33,560 --> 00:34:35,520
the way that we can distribute through the internet

885
00:34:35,520 --> 00:34:38,240
is obvious how much scale there is.

886
00:34:38,240 --> 00:34:41,600
I think that if we were to doubt people were waking up,

887
00:34:41,600 --> 00:34:44,360
it's because of the media,

888
00:34:44,360 --> 00:34:48,120
because of the extremes, get all of the headlines.

889
00:34:48,120 --> 00:34:50,040
I mean, if you look at drug report,

890
00:34:50,040 --> 00:34:52,160
one of the top visited websites,

891
00:34:52,160 --> 00:34:54,600
look at all of those headlines, it is extreme,

892
00:34:54,600 --> 00:34:58,200
it is new sum Trump, it is whatever spectrum you're on,

893
00:34:58,200 --> 00:35:00,600
they are always choosing the extremes,

894
00:35:00,600 --> 00:35:05,400
and the 80% 85, 87% of us who are moderate,

895
00:35:05,920 --> 00:35:07,120
who want to care for our families,

896
00:35:07,120 --> 00:35:09,680
who want to take care, who let people pass in traffic,

897
00:35:09,680 --> 00:35:12,760
all of us, I think, are waking up,

898
00:35:12,760 --> 00:35:17,760
and we are not going necessarily to some divisive

899
00:35:17,760 --> 00:35:20,000
YouTube channel or TikTok channel,

900
00:35:20,000 --> 00:35:22,760
but rather we're listening to this podcast.

901
00:35:22,760 --> 00:35:25,280
We're listening to someone with a law of attraction

902
00:35:25,280 --> 00:35:26,560
on Instagram or whatever,

903
00:35:26,560 --> 00:35:27,920
a lot of people are doing it,

904
00:35:27,920 --> 00:35:31,880
and so I do, it's just not reflected on a lot of,

905
00:35:31,880 --> 00:35:35,080
you don't see ABC, or CNN,

906
00:35:35,080 --> 00:35:37,160
saying the main headline is not,

907
00:35:37,160 --> 00:35:39,120
people who just met each other had a fun

908
00:35:39,120 --> 00:35:40,800
and nice conversation.

909
00:35:40,800 --> 00:35:42,480
You don't see that. - Right, right.

910
00:35:42,480 --> 00:35:45,720
So then I would addend your steps, your baby steps,

911
00:35:45,720 --> 00:35:50,720
to say that the very first step is put the damn phone away.

912
00:35:50,720 --> 00:35:52,960
- Yes. - Put the phone down,

913
00:35:52,960 --> 00:35:54,720
stop looking, strolling through,

914
00:35:54,720 --> 00:35:56,960
doom scrolling through the social media accounts,

915
00:35:56,960 --> 00:35:59,560
stop reading the headlines,

916
00:35:59,560 --> 00:36:02,600
and I actually turned off my notifications

917
00:36:02,600 --> 00:36:03,960
for my social media,

918
00:36:03,960 --> 00:36:07,160
because every time I was so programmed,

919
00:36:07,160 --> 00:36:09,760
every time I phoned, ding, what's happening here?

920
00:36:09,760 --> 00:36:11,680
Ding, now I'm still doing it,

921
00:36:11,680 --> 00:36:13,680
'cause now I'm getting headline news,

922
00:36:13,680 --> 00:36:16,840
beam that me, so that's the next thing I'm gonna do,

923
00:36:16,840 --> 00:36:18,800
is I'm gonna turn off notifications on that stuff,

924
00:36:18,800 --> 00:36:21,760
but the very first step, put the damn phone down,

925
00:36:21,760 --> 00:36:24,600
second step, turn off your TV,

926
00:36:24,600 --> 00:36:26,640
or at least if you're gonna watch TV,

927
00:36:26,640 --> 00:36:29,000
watch something like new reality TV,

928
00:36:29,000 --> 00:36:31,280
which is like, stop that will feed your soul,

929
00:36:31,280 --> 00:36:32,960
not shameless plug, right?

930
00:36:32,960 --> 00:36:33,800
- No, not at all.

931
00:36:33,800 --> 00:36:34,960
- Not a shameless plug at all,

932
00:36:34,960 --> 00:36:37,760
but something that's going to feed your soul,

933
00:36:37,760 --> 00:36:40,680
not eat your soul, right?

934
00:36:40,680 --> 00:36:42,040
'Cause that's exactly what's happening,

935
00:36:42,040 --> 00:36:44,200
because we talk about all the time in a show,

936
00:36:44,200 --> 00:36:45,960
and when we talk to people,

937
00:36:45,960 --> 00:36:49,880
the media is actually feeding off of that energy.

938
00:36:49,880 --> 00:36:54,880
How many clickbaits do you see that this sensational headline

939
00:36:54,880 --> 00:36:56,840
that says, you can't miss it,

940
00:36:56,840 --> 00:36:58,240
you're not gonna believe, oh,

941
00:36:58,240 --> 00:37:00,160
I'm, yeah, and then you get more clicks,

942
00:37:00,160 --> 00:37:01,800
and then the advertisers are on advertised,

943
00:37:01,800 --> 00:37:03,560
'cause now you're gonna make money for getting the clicks,

944
00:37:03,560 --> 00:37:05,880
so you're putting more of the scandalous stuff.

945
00:37:05,880 --> 00:37:09,480
- Right, and we are a program to respond to that kind of stuff,

946
00:37:09,480 --> 00:37:10,640
right? - Yeah.

947
00:37:10,640 --> 00:37:11,640
- I used to work in news,

948
00:37:11,640 --> 00:37:15,240
and the old cliché slogan, if it bleeds leads, right?

949
00:37:15,240 --> 00:37:18,440
So we totally, it's only gotten worse.

950
00:37:18,440 --> 00:37:20,920
So first step, put the phone down, second step,

951
00:37:20,920 --> 00:37:24,280
turn off the news, and-- - Put the phone down

952
00:37:24,280 --> 00:37:25,280
unless you need the GPS,

953
00:37:25,280 --> 00:37:26,880
because who knows where I'll end up?

954
00:37:26,880 --> 00:37:28,560
(laughing)

955
00:37:28,560 --> 00:37:30,160
- I need that, for the GPS.

956
00:37:30,160 --> 00:37:32,240
Fair point, fair point, sorry.

957
00:37:32,240 --> 00:37:34,960
But I guess we can get you a little separate GPS devices.

958
00:37:34,960 --> 00:37:36,640
- Just like the little garments that come out,

959
00:37:36,640 --> 00:37:38,320
like for the whatever, 2000.

960
00:37:38,320 --> 00:37:39,800
- That's right.

961
00:37:39,800 --> 00:37:41,920
One thing that I would wear would keep the phone,

962
00:37:41,920 --> 00:37:42,960
turn off the notifications,

963
00:37:42,960 --> 00:37:45,880
but one exercise that I love doing is when I walk my dog,

964
00:37:45,880 --> 00:37:48,080
is I do voice to text in my phone,

965
00:37:48,080 --> 00:37:50,960
and that's one way I can write or create,

966
00:37:50,960 --> 00:37:53,960
and my kids roll their eyes, voice to text, such an old thing,

967
00:37:53,960 --> 00:37:56,480
but when I get my fingers on the keyboard,

968
00:37:56,480 --> 00:37:58,680
now I'm concerned about typos and periods,

969
00:37:58,680 --> 00:38:00,480
and I don't type that well anyway.

970
00:38:00,480 --> 00:38:04,200
When I go talk, email myself or do a Google doc or whatever,

971
00:38:04,200 --> 00:38:06,200
and I'm just sitting there with my headset on,

972
00:38:06,200 --> 00:38:08,200
just stream of consciousness,

973
00:38:08,200 --> 00:38:10,280
and ideas come out and flowing,

974
00:38:10,280 --> 00:38:11,880
whether it's something personal,

975
00:38:11,880 --> 00:38:14,000
how you feel about something, or for work.

976
00:38:14,000 --> 00:38:16,640
So just a thought that that's one way that I do,

977
00:38:16,640 --> 00:38:19,480
just a real actionable way to become a creator.

978
00:38:19,480 --> 00:38:23,480
- Right, so basically you're using the phone as a tool

979
00:38:23,480 --> 00:38:25,320
to help you versus--

980
00:38:25,320 --> 00:38:27,440
- Much better than my voice to text.

981
00:38:27,440 --> 00:38:28,280
- You know.

982
00:38:28,280 --> 00:38:29,120
- That's true.

983
00:38:29,120 --> 00:38:30,720
- I've told people were getting divorced,

984
00:38:30,720 --> 00:38:32,600
and not checked it and sent it.

985
00:38:32,600 --> 00:38:34,720
I had a proposition to friends, husband, once,

986
00:38:34,720 --> 00:38:37,760
and then I was like, "Oh my God, what did I send?"

987
00:38:37,760 --> 00:38:40,640
'Cause it auto-corrects, and I don't check it.

988
00:38:40,640 --> 00:38:44,400
It's terrible, but yes, I mean, it has the skills.

989
00:38:44,400 --> 00:38:46,600
- A Google doc not in a live text.

990
00:38:46,600 --> 00:38:48,640
- Okay, see, that's smart.

991
00:38:48,640 --> 00:38:50,240
- All right, so open up Google Docs,

992
00:38:50,240 --> 00:38:51,680
and then talk, don't talk.

993
00:38:51,680 --> 00:38:52,520
- Or I could just stop.

994
00:38:52,520 --> 00:38:54,160
- I just need to go back to calling people.

995
00:38:54,160 --> 00:38:56,640
- Well, back to chat, GBT, right?

996
00:38:56,640 --> 00:38:58,560
You can always just open up chat GBT

997
00:38:58,560 --> 00:39:00,400
and have a conversation with chat GBT,

998
00:39:00,400 --> 00:39:01,960
and it'll talk back.

999
00:39:01,960 --> 00:39:03,120
- It'll talk back.

1000
00:39:03,120 --> 00:39:04,720
- And it'll be like a sounding board.

1001
00:39:04,720 --> 00:39:05,720
- That's right.

1002
00:39:05,720 --> 00:39:06,880
- And I'll say, "Why'd you leave your husband?"

1003
00:39:06,880 --> 00:39:08,720
And I'll say, "No, I went to the store."

1004
00:39:08,720 --> 00:39:09,560
That's a horse.

1005
00:39:09,560 --> 00:39:10,720
(laughing)

1006
00:39:10,720 --> 00:39:13,320
- Looking up listings for Casey Birmingham Attorney,

1007
00:39:13,320 --> 00:39:15,080
Attorney, you said you were going to be a cop.

1008
00:39:15,080 --> 00:39:16,080
(laughing)

1009
00:39:16,080 --> 00:39:18,840
- So let's talk about what it is that when you talk,

1010
00:39:18,840 --> 00:39:21,080
you said a couple of times during this conversation

1011
00:39:21,080 --> 00:39:24,200
that you have, you help people in this,

1012
00:39:24,200 --> 00:39:25,400
you help people in that.

1013
00:39:25,400 --> 00:39:26,920
How is it that you help people?

1014
00:39:26,920 --> 00:39:31,040
- So leave law, if someone goes and add a leave law

1015
00:39:31,040 --> 00:39:33,280
behind.com, a lot of free resources there,

1016
00:39:33,280 --> 00:39:34,120
you can check it out.

1017
00:39:34,120 --> 00:39:38,560
And this is, this was a blog I started back in 2009,

1018
00:39:38,560 --> 00:39:40,280
just getting my ideas out there,

1019
00:39:40,280 --> 00:39:42,360
turned it public, Google picked up on it,

1020
00:39:42,360 --> 00:39:43,680
and taken off from there.

1021
00:39:43,680 --> 00:39:47,240
And so we help unhappy attorneys to do what we've talked about,

1022
00:39:47,240 --> 00:39:48,600
to really understand what they're good at,

1023
00:39:48,600 --> 00:39:50,880
their transferable skills, many of them say,

1024
00:39:50,880 --> 00:39:52,360
"I could just have lawyer skills."

1025
00:39:52,360 --> 00:39:53,920
What else could I do?

1026
00:39:53,920 --> 00:39:56,080
So we help them understand that and find roles.

1027
00:39:56,080 --> 00:39:58,680
We've helped hundreds, I think almost a thousand

1028
00:39:58,680 --> 00:40:01,600
unhappy attorneys to move to non-look,

1029
00:40:01,600 --> 00:40:06,000
sales, operations, recruiting, compliance, you name it.

1030
00:40:06,000 --> 00:40:09,080
And so just really helping them, and they love their jobs.

1031
00:40:09,080 --> 00:40:10,840
They just absolutely, they pinch themselves.

1032
00:40:10,840 --> 00:40:14,400
So, and then I'm also started kcberman.com,

1033
00:40:14,400 --> 00:40:16,040
which had a lot of hesitation.

1034
00:40:16,040 --> 00:40:19,400
I've had to really push to do this, who am I, right?

1035
00:40:19,400 --> 00:40:20,920
But I had people ask me,

1036
00:40:20,920 --> 00:40:22,560
I know I'm not a lawyer, can you help me?

1037
00:40:22,560 --> 00:40:25,040
And so I've started there to help non-lawyers,

1038
00:40:25,040 --> 00:40:28,520
and I'm starting to write there about these type of things

1039
00:40:28,520 --> 00:40:30,080
as well for non-lawyers.

1040
00:40:30,080 --> 00:40:32,360
But those are the two areas where I help,

1041
00:40:32,360 --> 00:40:34,480
and how I help people.

1042
00:40:34,480 --> 00:40:37,600
So then these websites, would you say they are,

1043
00:40:37,600 --> 00:40:39,920
I mean, they sound like a fantastic business,

1044
00:40:39,920 --> 00:40:42,600
would you say they're more kind of led by your desire

1045
00:40:42,600 --> 00:40:44,440
to be an entrepreneur and have these businesses,

1046
00:40:44,440 --> 00:40:47,840
or is there a spiritual component to why you're doing this?

1047
00:40:47,840 --> 00:40:49,160
It's, no, it's a great question.

1048
00:40:49,160 --> 00:40:51,240
And I think it was a spiritual component

1049
00:40:51,240 --> 00:40:54,640
before I even knew really what spiritual was, right?

1050
00:40:54,640 --> 00:40:57,640
I was just writing, I just wanted,

1051
00:40:57,640 --> 00:40:59,080
I was using blogger at the time,

1052
00:40:59,080 --> 00:41:00,560
or WordPress.com at the time,

1053
00:41:00,560 --> 00:41:02,720
and I just started just getting my thoughts on,

1054
00:41:02,720 --> 00:41:04,120
I don't even know what compelled me to do it.

1055
00:41:04,120 --> 00:41:06,560
I said, you know, I just wanna write about what I'm doing,

1056
00:41:06,560 --> 00:41:07,840
which was at that point,

1057
00:41:07,840 --> 00:41:09,840
I was a few years out of being a lawyer.

1058
00:41:09,840 --> 00:41:11,920
And so I just started writing,

1059
00:41:11,920 --> 00:41:13,320
and I just kinda did it for myself.

1060
00:41:13,320 --> 00:41:15,600
And, you know, at that point, I'm actually creating

1061
00:41:15,600 --> 00:41:17,800
a new web page for leave-all-behinds,

1062
00:41:17,800 --> 00:41:19,560
and some marketing material,

1063
00:41:19,560 --> 00:41:22,240
and I'm thinking, like, wait a minute,

1064
00:41:22,240 --> 00:41:23,240
where am I coming from?

1065
00:41:23,240 --> 00:41:26,240
Am I coming from a business marketing standpoint,

1066
00:41:26,240 --> 00:41:30,320
just get this done, or is this coming from me?

1067
00:41:30,320 --> 00:41:31,480
Like, where am I coming from?

1068
00:41:31,480 --> 00:41:32,880
And I had to take a pause,

1069
00:41:32,880 --> 00:41:34,920
'cause I was like, I want this done by next Friday,

1070
00:41:34,920 --> 00:41:36,800
and no, it's gonna take a little longer.

1071
00:41:36,800 --> 00:41:37,640
I need to sit with it.

1072
00:41:37,640 --> 00:41:40,920
So I do lose myself, I get plugged in too much,

1073
00:41:40,920 --> 00:41:44,720
but both businesses have a very spiritual kind of,

1074
00:41:44,720 --> 00:41:46,880
this is just what I wanna share type of vibe with it.

1075
00:41:46,880 --> 00:41:48,640
So thanks for asking me.

1076
00:41:48,640 --> 00:41:51,960
I gotta ask the question just out of curiosity.

1077
00:41:51,960 --> 00:41:52,800
- Sure.

1078
00:41:52,800 --> 00:41:54,320
- You're a parent.

1079
00:41:54,320 --> 00:41:57,840
How has this awakening changed the way

1080
00:41:57,840 --> 00:41:59,440
that you parent your kids?

1081
00:41:59,440 --> 00:42:02,680
- Yeah, that's a great question.

1082
00:42:02,680 --> 00:42:06,280
So, you know, my daughter is 18 now,

1083
00:42:06,280 --> 00:42:08,000
and she has a gift for Gab,

1084
00:42:08,000 --> 00:42:11,480
and enjoy storytelling and talking and presents well,

1085
00:42:11,480 --> 00:42:14,360
and she's in a creative media class where they're filming,

1086
00:42:14,360 --> 00:42:17,320
and she was talking about how good she was at this,

1087
00:42:17,320 --> 00:42:19,120
and I'm beaming as a, we're driving,

1088
00:42:19,120 --> 00:42:20,680
and I'm just beaming as a father.

1089
00:42:20,680 --> 00:42:22,800
And she said, well, I said,

1090
00:42:22,800 --> 00:42:24,160
"God, this is a gift you have."

1091
00:42:24,160 --> 00:42:25,320
She's like, "Yeah, I'm good at it."

1092
00:42:25,320 --> 00:42:28,880
But, you know, Mommy is very empathetic and understanding,

1093
00:42:28,880 --> 00:42:32,840
and I listen from the other room on a lot of your coaching calls.

1094
00:42:32,840 --> 00:42:33,680
- Ooh.

1095
00:42:33,680 --> 00:42:36,480
- And so, I didn't really realize that.

1096
00:42:36,480 --> 00:42:38,240
She's down the high, I didn't know where she was,

1097
00:42:38,240 --> 00:42:42,240
and she's heard me do a lot of my talking over the years.

1098
00:42:42,240 --> 00:42:46,200
And so, it's one, I didn't realize it at the time,

1099
00:42:46,200 --> 00:42:49,680
but doing these businesses has really rubbed off

1100
00:42:49,680 --> 00:42:51,080
on my kids in that way,

1101
00:42:51,080 --> 00:42:53,400
and help them either see what they're good at,

1102
00:42:53,400 --> 00:42:57,600
or emulate that, or also, I think,

1103
00:42:57,600 --> 00:43:01,360
they've understood the entrepreneurial need nowadays,

1104
00:43:01,360 --> 00:43:03,240
particularly with AI, we're hearing all these headlines

1105
00:43:03,240 --> 00:43:07,280
about entry-level jobs are going by the wayside.

1106
00:43:07,280 --> 00:43:09,200
So, I've really said, my children,

1107
00:43:09,200 --> 00:43:11,160
I don't want you to worry about jobs just yet,

1108
00:43:11,160 --> 00:43:14,680
but let's create your own thing.

1109
00:43:14,680 --> 00:43:18,160
Use AI, don't get made redundant by AI.

1110
00:43:18,160 --> 00:43:21,520
So, and also, I think I've seen with my kids

1111
00:43:21,520 --> 00:43:26,160
that there's a patient's level with a very just distraught

1112
00:43:26,160 --> 00:43:30,600
and tired and fearful 48-year-old attorney,

1113
00:43:30,600 --> 00:43:33,720
in some ways has the same fears as my eight-year-old,

1114
00:43:33,720 --> 00:43:37,640
and just having that level of patience,

1115
00:43:37,640 --> 00:43:40,720
having that level of sympathy, empathy, compassion,

1116
00:43:40,720 --> 00:43:44,120
but also a little bit of a push.

1117
00:43:44,120 --> 00:43:46,520
I've seen those themes come up,

1118
00:43:46,520 --> 00:43:48,200
not that 48-year-olds like an eight-year-old,

1119
00:43:48,200 --> 00:43:51,640
but just similar types of responses from my side,

1120
00:43:51,640 --> 00:43:55,360
I've realized that I've needed to respond similarly

1121
00:43:55,360 --> 00:43:58,400
in both situations from more of that empathetic standpoint.

1122
00:43:58,400 --> 00:43:59,640
- Okay, very cool.

1123
00:43:59,640 --> 00:44:02,320
- Well, there's that core humanity that we all have,

1124
00:44:02,320 --> 00:44:03,920
you know, it makes us, that's the best.

1125
00:44:03,920 --> 00:44:05,520
- Most of us, core humanity.

1126
00:44:05,520 --> 00:44:07,040
That's a better way of putting it in,

1127
00:44:07,040 --> 00:44:08,880
core humanity.

1128
00:44:08,880 --> 00:44:11,840
- All right, well, we're gonna make sure we add those links

1129
00:44:11,840 --> 00:44:12,920
to our show notes,

1130
00:44:12,920 --> 00:44:14,280
so if someone wants to reach out to you

1131
00:44:14,280 --> 00:44:16,960
and either leave law or Kasey Berman,

1132
00:44:16,960 --> 00:44:21,600
you can help them to find their way out of the matrix.

1133
00:44:21,600 --> 00:44:23,480
I'm sure that a lot of people are gonna appreciate that.

1134
00:44:23,480 --> 00:44:24,800
- That's seven minutes, about it.

1135
00:44:24,800 --> 00:44:26,240
- Is there anything else you wanna make sure

1136
00:44:26,240 --> 00:44:29,800
that we talk about or we touch on before we say goodbye?

1137
00:44:29,800 --> 00:44:31,840
- I just wanna say thank you for all you do,

1138
00:44:31,840 --> 00:44:35,400
and just, you know, I've been a fan and just listening to you,

1139
00:44:35,400 --> 00:44:39,280
I learned something after I listened to every podcast,

1140
00:44:39,280 --> 00:44:41,920
I listened when I go on my dog walks,

1141
00:44:41,920 --> 00:44:43,920
when I'm not creating my own stuff,

1142
00:44:43,920 --> 00:44:46,680
I'm listening to yours, but no, thank you so much

1143
00:44:46,680 --> 00:44:47,520
for what you're doing,

1144
00:44:47,520 --> 00:44:51,680
and I just think it's so important for people to,

1145
00:44:51,680 --> 00:44:53,680
and put it this way.

1146
00:44:53,680 --> 00:44:55,960
What I've heard is that you can either view this matrix

1147
00:44:55,960 --> 00:44:59,200
or whatever as a prison or as a classroom,

1148
00:44:59,200 --> 00:45:01,560
and a good classroom, not the horrible classrooms

1149
00:45:01,560 --> 00:45:02,880
people may have had back in the days.

1150
00:45:02,880 --> 00:45:04,040
- It's a sum of good ones.

1151
00:45:04,040 --> 00:45:05,520
- The enrullers and knuckles, yeah.

1152
00:45:05,520 --> 00:45:06,840
- Yeah, exactly, not those.

1153
00:45:06,840 --> 00:45:08,280
But just like, what am I gonna learn?

1154
00:45:08,280 --> 00:45:09,640
So such and such didn't happen,

1155
00:45:09,640 --> 00:45:11,040
what am I gonna learn from it?

1156
00:45:11,040 --> 00:45:12,600
What am I gonna learn from it in this matrix?

1157
00:45:12,600 --> 00:45:15,360
Also, what am I gonna learn if I can kind of unplug?

1158
00:45:15,360 --> 00:45:18,120
And so that's really helped me understand

1159
00:45:18,120 --> 00:45:19,760
that good and bad are just constructs.

1160
00:45:19,760 --> 00:45:21,360
It's just how we view things.

1161
00:45:21,360 --> 00:45:24,440
So I just am really appreciative that you're,

1162
00:45:24,440 --> 00:45:26,520
you're kind of just keeping this at the forefront,

1163
00:45:26,520 --> 00:45:28,400
this type of exercise and discussion.

1164
00:45:28,400 --> 00:45:29,240
So thank you.

1165
00:45:29,240 --> 00:45:30,760
- Well, we appreciate you saying that,

1166
00:45:30,760 --> 00:45:32,760
and I definitely need to clarify to the audience

1167
00:45:32,760 --> 00:45:34,760
we did not prompt him to the dissuade.

1168
00:45:34,760 --> 00:45:37,240
- This is not why I asked him that question.

1169
00:45:37,240 --> 00:45:39,360
- So I should put down this paper.

1170
00:45:39,360 --> 00:45:41,240
- Yeah, it's shit.

1171
00:45:41,240 --> 00:45:42,720
- I didn't, I didn't really,

1172
00:45:42,720 --> 00:45:44,840
I don't think I had anything much more insightful to say.

1173
00:45:44,840 --> 00:45:48,480
So I just wanted to express my gratitude.

1174
00:45:48,480 --> 00:45:50,840
- And yet that little gem at the end was perfect.

1175
00:45:50,840 --> 00:45:51,680
It was wonderful.

1176
00:45:51,680 --> 00:45:52,520
- I think that was very insightful.

1177
00:45:52,520 --> 00:45:53,360
- Yeah, that was.

1178
00:45:53,360 --> 00:45:55,320
(laughing)

1179
00:45:55,320 --> 00:45:56,520
- All right, Casey, thank you so much

1180
00:45:56,520 --> 00:45:57,360
for being on the show.

1181
00:45:57,360 --> 00:45:58,200
This has been wonderful.

1182
00:45:58,200 --> 00:45:59,240
- And for what you're doing, it's just fantastic.

1183
00:45:59,240 --> 00:46:01,080
And I know you're gonna help so many more people.

1184
00:46:01,080 --> 00:46:01,920
- Definitely.

1185
00:46:01,920 --> 00:46:02,760
- Well, I appreciate it.

1186
00:46:02,760 --> 00:46:03,600
Thanks for having me.

1187
00:46:03,600 --> 00:46:05,280
(bell rings)

1188
00:46:05,280 --> 00:46:06,520
- Okay, well that does it for this episode

1189
00:46:06,520 --> 00:46:07,440
of the Skeptic Manifestions.

1190
00:46:07,440 --> 00:46:09,680
Thanks for coming along and this journey beyond the veil.

1191
00:46:09,680 --> 00:46:12,880
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1192
00:46:12,880 --> 00:46:15,960
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1193
00:46:15,960 --> 00:46:19,640
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1194
00:46:19,640 --> 00:46:22,120
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1195
00:46:22,120 --> 00:46:25,200
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1196
00:46:25,200 --> 00:46:26,720
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1197
00:46:26,720 --> 00:46:28,560
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1198
00:46:28,560 --> 00:46:31,560
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1199
00:46:31,560 --> 00:46:33,480
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1200
00:46:33,480 --> 00:46:35,400
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1201
00:46:35,400 --> 00:46:39,360
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1202
00:46:39,360 --> 00:46:43,520
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1203
00:46:43,520 --> 00:46:46,960
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1204
00:46:46,960 --> 00:46:49,960
But most of all, keep your mind open.

1205
00:46:49,960 --> 00:46:52,540
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1206
00:46:53,380 --> 00:46:56,120
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1207
00:46:56,120 --> 00:46:59,300
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