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Can You Actually Boost Your Neighborhood's Consciousness? The Science of Focused Life-Force Energy

Can You Actually Boost Your Neighborhood's Consciousness? The Science of Focused Life-Force Energy
Can You Actually Boost Your Neighborhood's Consciousness? The Science of Focused Life-Force Energy
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Can You Actually Boost Your Neighborhood's Consciousness? The Science of Focused Life-Force Energy

What if the very thing designed to elevate your life was also quietly surfacing everything you've been avoiding? Clayten Stedmann and Jeffrey Stegman, the co-founders of Focused Life-Force Energy, return to TSM for a conversation that goes considerably deeper than their first visit. We're talking eleven million consciousness calibrations, a manufacturing company that stopped gossiping overnight, two young brothers who suddenly started sharing their feelings, and the quiet service work happening at WWII concentration camp sites that nobody ever paid them for. Whether you felt something during their last episode or you're brand new to Focused Life-Force Energy, this one will surprise you. And yes — the field is active while you listen.

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Key Takeaways

  • Focused Life-Force Energy (FLFE) activates a high-consciousness environment known as a 'love zone' that operates at the 550 level on the Scale of Consciousness, bringing about unconditional love and EMF mitigation.
  • Kinesiology, or muscle testing, acts as a tool to tap into Universal Intelligence (UI) to measure the consciousness levels of environments and properties.
  • Accurate muscle testing and consciousness calibrations require a well-researched, positive declarative statement, proper hydration, and a team approach to eliminate personal bias.
  • FLFE fields are capable of rippling out globally, impacting over 90 countries and creating tangible improvements in homes, businesses, and neighborhoods.
  • The service naturally surfaces unresolved personal issues and promotes harmony, changing the energy of spaces so profoundly that even skeptics feel the tangible effects.

What if the thing designed to make your life better was also quietly surfacing everything you've been avoiding? That's exactly what Clayten Stedmann and Jeffrey Stegman... co-founders of Focused Life-Force Energy.... came back to TSM to explore.

If you caught their first episode, you already know the origin story. This is not that conversation. In this return visit, we go considerably deeper into what FLFE actually is at its core... a high-consciousness field they call the Love Zone... and how it works using the Scale of Consciousness as its calibration framework.

Clayten walks us through what it actually takes to do a consciousness calibration. and corrects the record live on air; it's not five million calibrations... it's eleven million. And counting.

We cover:

  • What the Love Zone actually is... and why the level of 550 on the scale represents unconditional love
  • How muscle testing really works as a tool for measuring consciousness, including why only about 15% of people can do it reliably and how hydration, bias, and the precision of your statement all affect your results
  • The "UI" moment; when Will and Karen reframe kinesiology as prompting the original AI; Universal Intelligence... and why that might be the most accurate description of what's actually happening
  • The manufacturing company story; Jeffrey describes activating FLFE in his business without telling anyone... and watching gossip drop to almost nothing while team coordination improved dramatically
  • The Two Brothers story; one of the most remarkable subscriber testimonials you'll ever hear, involving two young boys, a very quiet house, and a moment their mother called the biggest miracle of her life
  • The WWII concentration camp project; FLFE's early service work clearing geopathic stress and trauma from the land at Holocaust sites in Poland and Germany
  • What 11 million calibrations taught Clayten about humans... and what he does with 20,000 of them every single month just to maintain the service
  • The consent question; what happens to the people in your field who never opted in, and why Jeffrey says free will is always primary
  • The nutritional piece; what your body actually needs to keep rising in a high-consciousness environment, including why copper, magnesium, and essential fatty acids matter more than you might think
  • Neighborhoods; how one subscriber's FLFE field can ripple out to the people next door. and why low-consciousness neighbors tend to either move out or start hosting potlucks

Whether you felt something during their first episode or you're brand new to Focused Life-Force Energy, this conversation is going to surprise you. Will even admits live on air that his skepticism on this particular topic simply does not exist... and this is a man with "Skeptic" in the show title.

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Frequently Asked Questions

What is Focused Life-Force Energy (FLFE)?

FLFE is a service that activates a high-consciousness field or 'love zone' around a property, maintaining a minimum level of 550 on the Scale of Consciousness to provide unconditional love, EMF mitigation, and elevated energy.

How does muscle testing measure consciousness?

Muscle testing, or kinesiology, taps into Universal Intelligence to test the truth of a positive declarative statement, allowing practitioners to calibrate the exact consciousness level of a given environment.

What is the Scale of Consciousness?

It is a logarithmic scale ranging from 1 to 1,000 that categorizes human awareness and environmental frequencies, where lower levels represent emotions like fear and anger, and higher levels above 500 represent love and peace.

Can anyone perform accurate muscle testing?

According to the episode, only about 15% of people can perform kinesiology reliably due to factors like hydration, personal bias, and the precision of the statement being tested.

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Karen, what if the very thing designed to make life

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better was also quietly surfing everything you've been avoiding?

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Specifically, the parts of you that you have not yet

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dealt with.

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Wait, quietly surfing?

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Surfacing.

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Surfacing, okay. Surfacing. Yeah, I misunderstood. I was trying to

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visualize that.

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Okay, well, as it turns out, a high consciousness field...

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does not politely wait until you're ready. Of course not. No,

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today we're going to be speaking to the two men

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show before, has completely reimagined what it means to be protected.

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And we're going to ask these two to calibrate something

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they've never calibrated on air before. Cryptic enough, Karen?

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Maybe just a little more. Stay tuned to find out

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just who and what we're alluding to on this episode

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of the Skeptic Metaphysicians. My name is Will.

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And unlike Mulder and Scully.

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woo meets the wait a minute. Last time these two

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everything and that knowledge, you can make a statement and

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of Consciousness, level of consciousness of this property, ABC Street,

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you have to carefully make the statement. So what Clayton

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a team then you can check each other and get

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within you know five points of each other whatever you

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decide is for that particular thing that you're testing is

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you know the how close you want to get right

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so that's really key is that the The statement is

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very well researched and thought out and written down, and

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everyone is testing the same thing independently.

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It's actually really cool because when you think about it,

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you are tapping into, you're creating a prompt for the

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original AI, which is the universe, right?

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So we have to take the A out because it's

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not artificial.

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Just intelligence. Original I. Original I, yes.

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U-I, I love that, yes. Oh, I think we just

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found our episode title.

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I mean, it's amazing. And you mentioned that this is,

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we're probably around a 620 right now in our house

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when we're taping this. However, I believe that we are

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probably a little bit higher because I think you might

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have put a little higher boost on as we're talking,

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because this does not feel like 620. This feels like

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a 750 or something like that, right?

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but you're at a higher level. So when we did

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a little prayer before with all of you listening, we

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into our happy place pretty quick.

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Yeah, it was nice. So I've got to call out

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the big glaring thing here. The show is called The

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Skeptic Metaphysicians, and everyone talks about it. We talk about

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it all the time that I'm not really typically one

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that feels energy that strongly, for the most part. I

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don't know. The skepticism when it comes to this, as

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far as I'm concerned, It doesn't exist in me because

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I feel, I actually feel the effects. When we were

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I dropped in so hardcore. When you mentioned that we

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were at 850 and did a boost, suddenly you were like, okay,

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that explains everything. And I still feel the effects. So it's,

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I mean, there's a definite difference between where we started

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and where we are now, for sure. So I'm amazed

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that I can feel, if I can feel this. Anyone

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can feel this, I think.

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And it's really incredible. And just the range. I mean,

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you guys are worldwide with this. Just affecting people all

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over the planet.

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That's right. You're in over 90 countries now, right? Congratulations.

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That's incredible.

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That's a lot of countries.

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It's a lot of countries.

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Yeah, it's really fun on the webinars that we do

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for the community. You know, people are just checking in

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from everywhere, you know, all over Scandinavia and Africa and

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Europe and South America. It's really fun.

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Wow. That's wonderful.

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Now, does that put more of a tax on the

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whole system? The broader in the world you are, is

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it more difficult to maintain? Because, Clayton, you've done over

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5 million calibrations. That's a lot of calibrations, man. You

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must be tired.

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It's actually 11 million. That's all data.

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All right.

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I'm firing my researcher.

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I do about 20,000 a month just to Just to

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tread water.

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Holy smokes.

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Wow. I used to do a lot more.

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How? Oh, yeah.

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Well, let's talk about the calibrations. What exactly does that

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mean when you do a calibration? When I calibrate my mouthpiece,

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I hit a little lever and it kind of goes

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up a little bit and it fits in perfectly and

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that's calibration for me. How does that work for you?

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Well, it's actually not as many calibrations as it might

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seem like. So if you're testing, let's say I'm testing

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your property. So the first thing I would do is

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I would check my polarity. So I would hold a

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positive image in mind and I would make sure that

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I test positive on that positive image. So that means

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my polarity is good. Now, interesting with kinesiology, only about

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15% of humans can do it. And it doesn't mean

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that people aren't higher consciousness than me or any of

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us here. It's just that In general, some people aren't

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able to do it. And if you're pretty low, it's

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difficult for you to be non-biased about things, right? Or

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if you have a big issue with things. So you

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have to be able to do it in general. Then

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you have to check your freedom on that issue. And

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you have other people in the team test you. You'll

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test each other. So the first thing you do is

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check your polarity. And you hold a positive image in

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mind and test it. So That's one calibration. And the

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second one is you have to form the inquiry, right?

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So the inquiry is a positive declarative statement. And the

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reason it's a positive, I'm going to get into the,

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you want to hear a little bit of theory about kinesiology?

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We'd love to, yeah.

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Okay, sure. So the reason that you use a positive

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declarative statement is that the universe is inherently a positive place.

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I like that.

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Yes. So you're talking to the universe in a language

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it understands. So a question is a negative statement. It's

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not a bad statement, just a negative statement. So a

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positive declarative statement is a positive statement that either is

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yes or no. Positive or false. True or false. So

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you test your polarity. Then you have to form an inquiry.

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You have to form that positive declarative statement. Now if

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you've done the same statement a lot of times... You

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probably know the inquiry, like the level of consciousness of

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Willens Care and House on average over the previous month.

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I got it at 570 when I tested you earlier, right?

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So it's typically above 550. 550 is the base with FLFE.

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And then now it's maybe 620-ish, right? Right. And so

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it varies and fluctuates, but it will be at 550

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98% of the time or more over a 24-hour period.

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That's the FLFE guarantee.

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So you have to form the inquiry. If you haven't

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formed the inquiry, as Jeff said, you have to write

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out the context of the inquiry. So what am I

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trying to answer with this inquiry, right? And that can

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take a thousand calibrations. Because, now it doesn't have to,

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most inquiries are quite simple, but if you have a

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very sophisticated inquiry, sometimes, so we have to, so you

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have to, so when you're doing kinesiology, we reference the

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second edition of the 2018 version of the highest consciousness

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dictionary on the planet, which is the Oxford Dictionary. So

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we're testing things, we're holding that dictionary in mind as

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a reference, because that's the highest consciousness reference. So as

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simple as kinesiology is, it's a science and a profession.

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Sometimes we have to rewrite the definitions, because they're not

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high enough consciousness to get the accuracy of data that

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we want. So I don't want to go any deeper

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into it, but I'm just saying that as simple as

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it is, because we're all connected to the divine all

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the time, right? And we're a part of the divine,

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of course. It is a very sophisticated skill at a

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certain level. And just like anything else, you become a

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chiropractor or I guess some kind of a doctor. I

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don't know if it's at a doctor level of professionalism.

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But it does require a lot of skill.

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And a lot of time, you know. So a lot

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of these, like 11 million, but it's just you're just

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trying to find out sometimes how to ask the right

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or make the right inquiry. And then once you do it,

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it's like, you know, we test all the properties on

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the service. When they come on, we test them all

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every week. We do batch testing. So it's just a

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lot of maintenance. And it's not, I mean, I've done

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11 million, but it's not as hard as it sounds.

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You do a couple hundred a day just, you know.

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Having coffee.

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Walking around the office.

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Testing the coffee, testing the vitamins.

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Is this hot enough?

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Is this bitter enough? Is there enough sugar?

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And then you have to try to get over your

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OCD because that happens, right?

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Oh, yeah. I can imagine, right?

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Because you're exploring. Oh, my God, I could figure out

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so many things.

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Clayton, that's enough inquiries. No more calibrations for you.

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Yes.

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Cut off.

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Well, and you mentioned the skeptic, the... The level at

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which a skeptic, according to Hawking's circular logic problem, Hawkins

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wrote that skeptics calibrate below 200 on the scale.

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There's integris skeptics.

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Yes, yes, yes. People who actually want to figure things

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out versus just want to poo-poo things, right? So yeah,

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makes perfect sense. But this means that the people that

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are most likely to scientifically test the methodology are by definition...

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or by their own rules, by the system's own rules,

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incapable of getting a valid result. So how does the

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scientific community at large ever come to the point where

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they can say, sure, this is legit, or does it matter?

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Do we not need that to happen?

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Well, some people have proved that it works, and some

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people have proved that it doesn't work.

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Depending on your level of consciousness, right?

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Well, partially. So if you form a study... on kinesiology,

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and 85% of people can't do it, and then sometimes

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half the people in the group that are that can

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do it are biased and they can't get good data

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and you don't have a a group of proven consistently

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verifiable kinesiologists who've gathered data on self-evident truths right if

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you don't have that group to do it how are

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you ever going to get good data.

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I guess you're not.

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I don't know. I don't know how you do it.

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Yeah, yeah. So I guess I'm just biased because I want,

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as someone who really needs to be pragmatic about stuff,

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I want people to say, yeah, like all this stuff

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with disclosure going out nowadays, right? People are finally going

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and are saying, yeah, this is legit. This is not

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just someone going crazy or imagining things. This is real.

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There's so much more out there that we know. then

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we know. And you guys are showing that day in

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and day out. How sweet would it be to finally

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have science go, yeah, these guys, man, they know what

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they're doing.

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Well, we've, we've attracted some major, a major scientist, Dr.

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Gary Schwartz. Oh, it was Harvard, Yale university of Arizona.

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And we've done science, you know, we know that the

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mind needs to see some science, right? The main thing

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to us is the free trial, that either you go

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on and you feel it or you don't feel it.

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So that was really the driver from the beginning with

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no credit card. But science was also a driver because

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I have a scientific background, so I was really interested

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in showing it, how it does work. And Dr. Gary

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Schwartz came on through one of our subscribers who introduced

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him to us, and he was very intrigued. And for

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a year, he observed, he came in our research meetings,

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and he helped us refine the research, and he did

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statistical analysis of the research. And by the end of

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the year, he got so excited that he, first of all,

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he went on the service. He said, I'm going to

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wait a year. I'm not going to go on the

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service because I don't want to be biased. I just

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want to look at the data. And the data... data

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is so good it's like when you when you do

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research you're looking for you know what's what's the chance

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that this is happening just randomly sure right and they

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do this you know p value that measures that you

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know that and if you're in like one out of

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a hundred people think oh that's you know it's pretty

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good one out of a thousand that's really good and

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that's the chance that it's Totally random.

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Right.

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But our data is like one out of 100,000, or

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in our recent EMF studies, five out of a million

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chance that it was a random result. So that's really

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statistically significant. That puts it on a whole different map.

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So when you've got somebody like Gary, who we give

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him data, it doesn't matter what time we give it

436
00:23:05.109 --> 00:23:07.579
to him, He's going to study it. He's going to

437
00:23:07.839 --> 00:23:11.619
process it all through the night and come out with

438
00:23:11.819 --> 00:23:13.839
all of these ways of looking at the data and

439
00:23:13.880 --> 00:23:17.410
the statistical analysis of it. He just loves data, right?

440
00:23:18.089 --> 00:23:20.730
So when we've got somebody like that on our team,

441
00:23:20.769 --> 00:23:25.690
then it really does help those skeptical minds to open-minded

442
00:23:25.730 --> 00:23:28.880
skeptics to say, okay, yeah, there's something going on here.

443
00:23:29.000 --> 00:23:32.759
Definitely, yeah. I don't want to take up all the comment.

444
00:23:32.779 --> 00:23:32.960
I know.

445
00:23:35.369 --> 00:23:40.329
So have you seen, gosh, it's hard. So you're all

446
00:23:40.369 --> 00:23:42.670
over the world, and you're having people that are just

447
00:23:42.730 --> 00:23:46.970
really receiving these wonderful experiences and services because of what

448
00:23:46.990 --> 00:23:50.130
you're doing. Have you noticed anywhere where there's maybe a

449
00:23:50.250 --> 00:23:54.029
grouping of people that you're working with that you've seen

450
00:23:54.089 --> 00:23:56.769
an actual shift in the communities?

451
00:24:02.650 --> 00:24:03.230
It's interesting.

452
00:24:04.880 --> 00:24:07.779
I mean, we hear a lot of individual stories.

453
00:24:08.160 --> 00:24:08.480
Yeah.

454
00:24:09.480 --> 00:24:12.980
And many of our customers are, you know, scattered around

455
00:24:13.009 --> 00:24:13.420
the world.

456
00:24:13.569 --> 00:24:13.920
Yeah.

457
00:24:14.380 --> 00:24:18.210
But I have certainly seen it in my own businesses,

458
00:24:18.470 --> 00:24:19.950
you know, prior to FLFE.

459
00:24:19.970 --> 00:24:20.490
Yeah.

460
00:24:20.789 --> 00:24:25.549
Where we had the service on a manufacturing business. And

461
00:24:26.029 --> 00:24:32.309
it was a dramatic shift that happened there. And what I... Yeah,

462
00:24:32.349 --> 00:24:36.880
before FLFE, we... like any kind of older business or

463
00:24:37.000 --> 00:24:40.559
something that's been around a while with different groups of people,

464
00:24:40.599 --> 00:24:44.339
like people that are, you know, factory workers doing skilled labor,

465
00:24:44.940 --> 00:24:47.349
you know, to marketing and executives. You've got a big

466
00:24:47.390 --> 00:24:52.269
range of people. Yeah. Getting them to cooperate and coordinate

467
00:24:52.309 --> 00:24:58.130
together and gossip is always an issue, right? Where there's

468
00:24:58.789 --> 00:25:02.519
people are triangulating, they're getting together and talking about somebody

469
00:25:02.559 --> 00:25:06.190
else in the business. So, When we put FLFE on,

470
00:25:06.210 --> 00:25:09.210
and I was the only one that knew, and we

471
00:25:09.250 --> 00:25:12.920
offered water. We bought free water for everyone. We had

472
00:25:12.960 --> 00:25:16.700
stacks of water everywhere because we knew you had to hydrate.

473
00:25:17.480 --> 00:25:22.720
We really saw a decrease in gossip almost to nothing.

474
00:25:22.740 --> 00:25:24.140
Wow.

475
00:25:24.160 --> 00:25:31.200
We also saw the coordination where the customer was so important. Like, oh,

476
00:25:31.440 --> 00:25:35.460
this customer needs something. Let's all rally together. It doesn't

477
00:25:35.500 --> 00:25:38.910
matter what team we're on and get this order out.

478
00:25:39.569 --> 00:25:43.369
So it was a much more sort of team focused

479
00:25:43.410 --> 00:25:44.329
on the bigger picture.

480
00:25:44.349 --> 00:25:49.549
Yeah, and those companies or those businesses are perfect little communities,

481
00:25:49.589 --> 00:25:51.690
but it's still like a group, I guess. It's probably

482
00:25:51.730 --> 00:25:53.339
a better way. I should have worded it differently, but

483
00:25:53.359 --> 00:25:56.359
just like that group. And then ultimately, it's just going

484
00:25:56.380 --> 00:25:59.380
to ripple out. So they're affecting their customers and everything.

485
00:25:59.400 --> 00:25:59.599
Definitely.

486
00:26:00.309 --> 00:26:02.890
No. When, when your team started seeing all the bottles

487
00:26:02.910 --> 00:26:05.970
of water everywhere, didn't they have like a clue? Like,

488
00:26:06.190 --> 00:26:06.950
wait a minute.

489
00:26:10.430 --> 00:26:12.910
Yeah, probably not. I mean, they, they were like, well, they,

490
00:26:12.950 --> 00:26:13.720
they care about us.

491
00:26:15.420 --> 00:26:17.859
So is it, is the hydration important because you know,

492
00:26:17.880 --> 00:26:20.339
you hear the different experiments where people talk to water

493
00:26:20.440 --> 00:26:24.579
and it changes. So does the water in their bodies

494
00:26:24.619 --> 00:26:27.289
then change to the energy and to kind of make

495
00:26:27.410 --> 00:26:28.049
them better?

496
00:26:30.819 --> 00:26:35.599
Well, in a high consciousness field, the body has extra energy, right?

497
00:26:37.160 --> 00:26:40.839
So when your body has extra energy, it's so intelligent, right?

498
00:26:41.309 --> 00:26:44.009
And what I forgot to mention about the Hawkins map

499
00:26:44.109 --> 00:26:47.430
is one point up on the Hawkins map is 10

500
00:26:47.430 --> 00:26:52.349
times more energy. Oh, wow. So your house is 570.

501
00:26:52.329 --> 00:26:54.029
Now it's 620. It's 10 to the 50th power because

502
00:26:54.029 --> 00:27:01.579
571 is 10 times more than 570. 572 is 100

503
00:27:01.579 --> 00:27:06.400
times more than 570. So it's an extraordinary amount of energy. Right.

504
00:27:06.779 --> 00:27:11.599
And the body is incredibly intelligent. So it takes this

505
00:27:11.640 --> 00:27:13.859
energy and it starts doing all kinds of healing. It

506
00:27:13.880 --> 00:27:17.619
starts doing renovations. It starts doing upgrades. And you need

507
00:27:17.700 --> 00:27:22.289
water to process out the metabolic byproducts of the upgrades.

508
00:27:22.730 --> 00:27:22.950
Right.

509
00:27:23.009 --> 00:27:27.890
So, yeah. And typically 80% of the population is dehydrated.

510
00:27:28.259 --> 00:27:29.579
Oh, yeah, I know I am. I know.

511
00:27:29.599 --> 00:27:31.559
It's just how it is. And it's funny because you51200:27:31.599 --> 00:27:33.500



were the first time, and by the way, I should mention,51300:27:33.539 --> 00:27:36.839



if you haven't heard our first interview with the guys,51400:27:36.900 --> 00:27:38.839



you definitely should go back and listen to it because51500:27:39.160 --> 00:27:41.279



we're glossing over some things because we assume that you've51600:27:41.299 --> 00:27:44.509



listened to this because we want to go down other51700:27:44.849 --> 00:27:48.369



roads and not try the same ground. But it's important51800:27:48.390 --> 00:27:51.990



to call out things like the effects of FLFE in51900:27:52.009 --> 00:27:55.490



a house. Not just, I mean, the importance of hydration,52000:27:55.509 --> 00:27:59.140



but when someone walks into a house that is covered52100:27:59.240 --> 00:28:02.680



in this bubble, nine times out of ten, someone will say,52200:28:02.720 --> 00:28:04.099



how many times have we moved in here? And someone52300:28:04.259 --> 00:28:06.839



will say to us, the energy in this place just52400:28:06.960 --> 00:28:07.799



feels amazing.52500:28:07.859 --> 00:28:08.980



Yeah, absolutely.52600:28:10.380 --> 00:28:13.009



We moved from one place to another, we transferred the service,52700:28:13.130 --> 00:28:15.670



and immediately the same thing started happening. People started saying, man,52800:28:15.690 --> 00:28:17.990



it just feels good. The energy in here feels so good.52900:28:18.930 --> 00:28:21.750



So to your point, right now someone walked in because53000:28:21.769 --> 00:28:24.750



we're so much higher than we typically are. we would53100:28:24.809 --> 00:28:27.190



be like the kings of Norfolk right now, man. We53200:28:27.210 --> 00:28:28.579



already are.53300:28:28.630 --> 00:28:30.519



You could sell tickets at the door.53400:28:32.380 --> 00:28:34.319



We may have a business case here. We're going to53500:28:34.359 --> 00:28:35.599



talk to you about it a little bit.53600:28:35.819 --> 00:28:37.640



Well, it's funny because we were just talking the other53700:28:37.660 --> 00:28:40.180



day about our daughter comes home from school and some friends,53800:28:40.200 --> 00:28:42.319



you know, they'll sometimes come with her and we end53900:28:42.380 --> 00:28:44.380



up having all these kids in the house and they're54000:28:44.400 --> 00:28:45.990



just hanging out, you know.54100:28:46.029 --> 00:28:47.990



That's so common. Yeah.54200:28:48.309 --> 00:28:49.170



We are the house.54300:28:49.230 --> 00:28:49.509



Yeah.54400:28:49.829 --> 00:28:51.509



We're the place all the kids want to come hang54500:28:51.589 --> 00:28:51.779



out in.54600:28:51.789 --> 00:28:52.029



Mm-hmm.54700:28:53.279 --> 00:28:55.410



And it's perfect because Karen's always said, I want to54800:28:55.430 --> 00:28:57.670



be that house. Well, now we are. So thank you guys.54900:28:57.710 --> 00:28:58.390



Yes.55000:28:59.269 --> 00:28:59.910



It's really nice.55100:29:00.750 --> 00:29:04.339



It is sweet. The only complaint we've heard about that is, yeah,55200:29:04.400 --> 00:29:08.049



so FLFE is $ 35 a month. But my grocery bill55300:29:08.069 --> 00:29:10.430



is an extra $ 300 because all the kids in there55400:29:10.450 --> 00:29:14.150



would come over and eat all our food.55500:29:14.579 --> 00:29:17.099



Literally last Friday, I'm like, okay, who's staying for dinner?55600:29:17.140 --> 00:29:18.960



And all the hands went up. I'm like, all right.55700:29:19.380 --> 00:29:21.200



So can we have like an off switch for a55800:29:21.220 --> 00:29:22.980



couple of days just so we save some money on55900:29:23.000 --> 00:29:24.980



groceries and we'll come back to you? Just for dinner.56000:29:25.000 --> 00:29:26.660



Just turn it off before dinner.56100:29:27.789 --> 00:29:28.849



All right.56200:29:29.190 --> 00:29:32.450



Well, I mean, this is a super important conversation. But56300:29:33.210 --> 00:29:37.950



even more important is the conversation that extends itself from56400:29:38.190 --> 00:29:40.380



what we have been talking about and basically the show56500:29:40.400 --> 00:29:44.640



has really been of late about spiritual awakenings and the56600:29:44.680 --> 00:29:47.349



processes that people go through when things like that happen.56700:29:48.230 --> 00:29:54.250



And when you are raising your consciousness, one thing after another, right?56800:29:54.269 --> 00:29:57.690



A plus B equals C. Some of the shadows are56900:29:57.710 --> 00:30:00.009



going to start coming up, right? Things are going to57000:30:00.049 --> 00:30:02.650



start appearing because you need to process them in order57100:30:02.690 --> 00:30:11.599



to continue on your road to enlightenment, right? So how has, like,57200:30:11.640 --> 00:30:16.500



have you found a lot of that muck coming up57300:30:17.079 --> 00:30:20.720



before being released when you turn on someone's service? Have57400:30:20.759 --> 00:30:21.319



you heard about that?57500:30:23.539 --> 00:30:26.400



The customers talk about it. in the, it's like when57600:30:26.420 --> 00:30:28.680



we do a webinar, there's a chat going too, right?57700:30:29.500 --> 00:30:32.119



And people on the free trial, maybe in the first week,57800:30:32.160 --> 00:30:35.940



they're like, ah, you know, all this, I don't feel57900:30:36.000 --> 00:30:38.140



as good. And people are saying, just hang in there.58000:30:38.559 --> 00:30:41.380



Just by week, you know, by week two, by week three,58100:30:41.930 --> 00:30:45.490



it's going to all be cleared out. So there's somewhat58200:30:45.529 --> 00:30:51.509



of an automatic process happening. Because in unconditional love, all58300:30:51.549 --> 00:30:55.900



those parts of us that maybe didn't feel that love58400:30:55.960 --> 00:30:59.299



when we were young and disassociated or there was danger,58500:30:59.880 --> 00:31:03.769



something happened, and we have those pieces and parts of us,58600:31:04.309 --> 00:31:07.950



but now they're bathing in the love zone, right? They're58700:31:08.009 --> 00:31:11.549



in that unconditional love, and they start to soften up58800:31:12.410 --> 00:31:17.299



and start to rise naturally. And yes, they can maybe58900:31:17.359 --> 00:31:21.039



have something to say, right, as they join the party.59000:31:21.059 --> 00:31:22.619



Yeah, yeah.59100:31:24.089 --> 00:31:28.210



So that's happening, but it is kind of happening automatically.59200:31:28.259 --> 00:31:32.359



And we also are doing whatever work we do personally59300:31:32.420 --> 00:31:37.319



or whatever awarenesses we have. But customers are always coaching59400:31:37.359 --> 00:31:41.119



the new kids to say, just hang in there because59500:31:41.160 --> 00:31:42.140



it's going to clear up.59600:31:42.400 --> 00:31:44.519



It's like a detox you have to go through when59700:31:44.559 --> 00:31:47.980



you first start a lot of times. So basically, it's59800:31:48.000 --> 00:31:52.140



like an ayahuasca trick. On steroids. A little easier, though, right?59900:31:52.740 --> 00:31:55.809



Maybe no throwing up, but beyond that. You don't need60000:31:55.849 --> 00:31:56.410



the bucket.60100:31:56.470 --> 00:31:56.869



Yeah, yeah.60200:31:57.869 --> 00:31:59.170



A little bit more subtle.60300:31:59.390 --> 00:31:59.990



Yes, yes.60400:32:00.549 --> 00:32:03.089



Have you noticed or have any of your customers who60500:32:03.230 --> 00:32:07.160



are more, for lack of better words, religious, like maybe60600:32:07.200 --> 00:32:11.680



more Christian or Muslim or something, have a different effect60700:32:12.019 --> 00:32:15.789



than someone who is just more … Spiritual. Spiritual, yeah.60800:32:19.460 --> 00:32:22.960



I think it would depend if you're spiritual and religious60900:32:23.880 --> 00:32:26.940



or just religious. They don't always go together.61000:32:27.319 --> 00:32:31.220



That's a really good point, actually. That's very true. It's61100:32:31.269 --> 00:32:34.309



being shown more and more these days, sadly. But beyond that,61200:32:34.930 --> 00:32:39.150



any conflicts with religious inclinations with this stuff?61300:32:40.910 --> 00:32:44.630



It's unconditional love. And the highest parts of all integrous61400:32:44.650 --> 00:32:48.779



religions is love your neighbor as thyself. Right. So we61500:32:48.819 --> 00:32:51.460



don't have any conflicts with any religions. I mean, we61600:32:51.480 --> 00:32:54.759



have our own beliefs, but so what? We're here to61700:32:54.799 --> 00:32:57.059



provide you a service. At least that's why I think61800:32:57.099 --> 00:32:59.660



about it. My beliefs are important to me, but I'm61900:32:59.700 --> 00:33:00.240



here to serve.62000:33:00.740 --> 00:33:03.710



So this is for anybody. Anybody with any belief system62100:33:03.750 --> 00:33:06.809



can benefit from this. Which reminds me of a conversation62200:33:06.849 --> 00:33:10.289



we had with someone in Denmark, actually. And she was62300:33:10.410 --> 00:33:13.119



doing some work with energy, and she was working with62400:33:13.190 --> 00:33:15.880



a man, and I think he was Muslim, and he62500:33:15.920 --> 00:33:18.789



just didn't believe in any of this. And after her62600:33:18.849 --> 00:33:20.849



work was done, he had to go through this process62700:33:20.869 --> 00:33:23.329



because of his company. They were doing this work with her.62800:33:23.829 --> 00:33:25.710



And after the process was done, he came to her62900:33:25.750 --> 00:33:27.150



and he said, thank you, you've helped me be a63000:33:27.170 --> 00:33:30.849



better Muslim. So I'm thinking if all of this is63100:33:30.950 --> 00:33:34.150



raising our vibrations of love, it's going to make you63200:33:34.190 --> 00:33:37.230



a better Muslim, Christian, Jew, whatever.63300:33:37.269 --> 00:33:37.990



How could it not?63400:33:38.109 --> 00:33:39.130



Yeah, absolutely.63500:33:39.150 --> 00:33:40.029



Good person.63600:33:40.250 --> 00:33:41.990



Yeah, a better person altogether.63700:33:43.269 --> 00:33:47.210



One of the effects, particularly of the boost as well,63800:33:47.430 --> 00:33:51.059



which are part of the service is the thinning of63900:33:51.099 --> 00:33:56.289



the veil and the, the, the closeness to however you see,64000:33:57.309 --> 00:34:01.910



you know, God, divinity, all of creation and, and truth64100:34:03.029 --> 00:34:05.549



and information seems to come more easily.64200:34:05.789 --> 00:34:06.029



Right.64300:34:06.309 --> 00:34:09.309



So we, you know, we have our own individual consciousness64400:34:09.329 --> 00:34:12.710



fields and then there's what we're talking about with that64500:34:12.730 --> 00:34:15.250



for the fee is the consciousness field in a place64600:34:15.269 --> 00:34:20.280



where And, of course, there's high and low consciousness places64700:34:20.900 --> 00:34:23.619



that we go in and out of every day. And64800:34:23.659 --> 00:34:28.400



we're activating that bubble, that high consciousness space. And then64900:34:28.440 --> 00:34:32.179



there's the field between us in our relationship with people.65000:34:33.219 --> 00:34:36.340



And so when you're in a high consciousness field and65100:34:36.380 --> 00:34:44.829



you're in relationship, and you're all together holding a positive...65200:34:45.050 --> 00:34:49.389



positive intention and moving forward in your in your evolution65300:34:50.059 --> 00:34:53.719



that that is like another like two or more gathered65400:34:53.800 --> 00:34:57.920



right there that's another increase in the power of what65500:34:57.980 --> 00:35:01.780



happens because we humans are so powerful and really our65600:35:02.039 --> 00:35:05.179



our intention is just to support the ideal conditions right65700:35:05.449 --> 00:35:08.329



you know the optimal conditions for us to to to65800:35:08.389 --> 00:35:12.369



grow and raise in consciousness and be closer to to65900:35:12.449 --> 00:35:15.679



divinity and to all that is and whatever, whatever works66000:35:15.699 --> 00:35:16.119



for us.66100:35:16.260 --> 00:35:19.699



And I love that when you move, you can take66200:35:19.739 --> 00:35:24.059



this with you. So we, the last, our last house66300:35:24.099 --> 00:35:26.429



before we moved here, we were there for like seven years.66400:35:26.469 --> 00:35:29.389



And how long did we have before we moved? A66500:35:29.650 --> 00:35:31.010



good three years, three years maybe.66600:35:31.730 --> 00:35:34.030



So then we moved here and we brought, or you66700:35:34.269 --> 00:35:36.969



transferred the service here. Do you think there were any66800:35:37.070 --> 00:35:39.760



lingering effects of, In the house where we lived, I66900:35:39.909 --> 00:35:41.630



wonder if the people that moved in were like, ah,67000:35:41.690 --> 00:35:42.610



it feels nice here.67100:35:42.889 --> 00:35:45.949



Of course they were. Not only FLFE energy, but our67200:35:45.989 --> 00:35:47.230



energy was left behind too.67300:35:47.250 --> 00:35:51.469



Yeah, it would definitely help. I mean, it reminds me67400:35:51.510 --> 00:35:54.360



of a story, Karen, when we've had a lot of67500:35:54.400 --> 00:35:56.719



people on the service that move into it, or they67600:35:56.760 --> 00:35:59.179



put it on their house in a neighborhood. And let's67700:35:59.199 --> 00:36:02.130



say they had neighbors who, you know, are really noisy.67800:36:02.170 --> 00:36:03.349



They party until 3 in the morning.67900:36:04.070 --> 00:36:05.429



We do not. It was only 2.30. I'm sorry.68000:36:05.429 --> 00:36:06.510



2.30?68100:36:06.510 --> 00:36:07.889



That's when you cut it off.68200:36:07.929 --> 00:36:08.780



Right.68300:36:09.400 --> 00:36:12.300



So the non-preferred experience with their neighbors, right? So they68400:36:12.320 --> 00:36:14.940



put the service on, and it's like it radiates out68500:36:14.980 --> 00:36:17.960



from your house. So it's not as high for your neighbors,68600:36:17.980 --> 00:36:20.739



but your neighbor's property will go to, say yours is 550.68700:36:20.719 --> 00:36:23.340



Your neighbor's property will likely go to 500. And then68800:36:23.360 --> 00:36:26.219



it radiates out. And we've had whole neighborhoods change.68900:36:26.280 --> 00:36:26.510



People.69000:36:27.150 --> 00:36:29.670



you know they move out because low consciousness doesn't enjoy69100:36:29.730 --> 00:36:31.789



high consciousness so they may move out or they may69200:36:31.849 --> 00:36:36.510



change right right but these neighborhoods that are kind of69300:36:36.550 --> 00:36:38.750



you know nobody talks to each other it's just kind69400:36:38.789 --> 00:36:40.730



of you do your own thing and you know they're69500:36:40.750 --> 00:36:43.309



starting to meet they're having barbecues they have a pot69600:36:43.349 --> 00:36:45.159



you know they have a potluck in the neighborhood all69700:36:45.179 --> 00:36:47.960



of a sudden we've seen that.69800:36:47.699 --> 00:36:49.900



So you do have examples of communities.69900:36:49.619 --> 00:36:51.920



Hundreds of stories I think hundreds over the years Jeff70000:36:51.980 --> 00:36:53.880



yeah I just I know I was thinking about groups70100:36:53.940 --> 00:36:56.199



and it's like yeah That was a good question by Karen.70200:36:56.219 --> 00:36:57.840



It does happen in neighborhoods.70300:36:58.639 --> 00:36:59.679



That's great.70400:36:59.920 --> 00:37:03.199



Yeah, it's very cool. Now, something that we should mention70500:37:03.320 --> 00:37:06.869



really quickly about the boost, because you touched on it, Jeffrey,70600:37:06.909 --> 00:37:11.710



but for those that don't know how the FLFE service works,70700:37:12.329 --> 00:37:15.789



it's on all the time, but then once a day70800:37:15.869 --> 00:37:17.449



or something like that, you can actually do a boost,70900:37:17.670 --> 00:37:19.829



and you have different levels of boost, which bring you71000:37:19.889 --> 00:37:22.360



up for a certain amount of time, I use it,71100:37:22.389 --> 00:37:25.030



for example, when I'm meditating. If I remember, I will71200:37:25.090 --> 00:37:28.909



boost to the 700 level, which helps me to drop in,71300:37:28.969 --> 00:37:30.719



and that's when I get my downloads and all that71400:37:30.739 --> 00:37:31.099



kind of stuff.71500:37:32.320 --> 00:37:32.940



So it's cool.71600:37:33.019 --> 00:37:35.199



But then another thing that you guys do, which is71700:37:35.380 --> 00:37:40.219



really freaking cool, is the PayForward project program that you71800:37:40.260 --> 00:37:42.659



guys have. Talk about that a little bit because I71900:37:42.679 --> 00:37:46.650



think that's amazingly generous and remarkable of you guys to offer.72000:37:50.010 --> 00:37:51.989



Yeah, from the beginning, we had the free trial, no72100:37:52.230 --> 00:37:56.210



credit card, and we had pay it forward. So we72200:37:56.369 --> 00:38:00.409



always wanted to, well, it goes back to how Clayton72300:38:00.469 --> 00:38:03.199



and I started in the business. I mean, we found72400:38:03.239 --> 00:38:07.860



this inventor, we discovered that we could raise consciousness remotely72500:38:07.960 --> 00:38:11.860



with it, and we just spent more than a year72600:38:11.980 --> 00:38:15.860



just raising consciousness around the planet. We'd use Google Earth,72700:38:15.909 --> 00:38:19.590



we'd fly around with Google Earth, we'd use kinesiology to72800:38:19.650 --> 00:38:22.690



measure and we'd find like the lowest spot in a72900:38:22.769 --> 00:38:26.670



continent that was like the critical factor that if you73000:38:27.710 --> 00:38:29.670



raise that area the whole continent would go up in73100:38:29.710 --> 00:38:35.489



consciousness so we we did that work all in 201273200:38:35.489 --> 00:38:40.449



a little before that and it was so gratifying and73300:38:40.530 --> 00:38:43.519



fun to do that right and we like you know73400:38:43.559 --> 00:38:46.139



we no one knew except us we were doing it73500:38:46.760 --> 00:38:49.289



but whatever we could do to help. We had a73600:38:49.329 --> 00:38:52.480



tool that we could help with and so we used it.73700:38:52.929 --> 00:38:56.070



But then when we sort of got the message to73800:38:56.110 --> 00:38:58.730



start the business or we like checked in and it73900:38:58.789 --> 00:39:03.179



was like, okay, now give people the ability to do74000:39:03.219 --> 00:39:07.019



that for their own house and to do it somewhere74100:39:07.039 --> 00:39:10.460



in the world at no cost, right? To pay it forward.74200:39:11.039 --> 00:39:16.360



That they could put a perpetual subscription onto a place74300:39:16.429 --> 00:39:20.099



anywhere in the world. And even if you subscribe for74400:39:20.239 --> 00:39:23.059



one month and you do a pay it forward, it74500:39:23.440 --> 00:39:25.460



remains on for as long as we run the business.74600:39:27.050 --> 00:39:29.530



so that we expect that to be a long time.74700:39:29.489 --> 00:39:32.230



Yeah that i mean that's incredible right that's not something74800:39:32.269 --> 00:39:35.710



a company typically would do so again hats off to74900:39:35.730 --> 00:39:37.050



you guys thank you for what you guys are doing75000:39:38.190 --> 00:39:40.489



and i think part of the importance of these conversations75100:39:40.550 --> 00:39:43.489



at least for someone like me is you can you75200:39:43.530 --> 00:39:46.239



can hear the efforts that you go through it's not75300:39:46.280 --> 00:39:49.500



just like a Hey, let me put this thing on75400:39:49.519 --> 00:39:53.780



you from afar and just trust me. It's on. Just75500:39:53.800 --> 00:39:56.920



trust me. But the level of testing that you guys75600:39:56.960 --> 00:40:00.360



do on a regular basis, the fact that you brought75700:40:00.429 --> 00:40:05.070



on that researcher to do all these things, the fact75800:40:05.090 --> 00:40:07.289



that you guys, that he sat in on meetings with75900:40:07.329 --> 00:40:11.010



your team, that your team actually has meetings and showcases76000:40:11.750 --> 00:40:13.519



that you're not just like, Sure, just give me your76100:40:13.559 --> 00:40:15.599



money and we'll turn something on for you guys. You76200:40:15.619 --> 00:40:21.230



guys actually are in active, constant motion to better the world.76300:40:22.269 --> 00:40:23.570



And some of the things that you're doing, I'd love76400:40:23.610 --> 00:40:26.389



to hear some of the projects that you're doing. Because76500:40:26.449 --> 00:40:29.269



aside from what you're doing with your business here, you're76600:40:29.369 --> 00:40:31.710



doing a lot of wonderful things for the world. So76700:40:31.730 --> 00:40:34.090



I wonder if you might want to share one or76800:40:34.139 --> 00:40:36.639



two of those projects that you're most proud of, that76900:40:36.940 --> 00:40:38.039



FLFE is involved in.77000:40:41.130 --> 00:40:42.829



Well, I'll start it off and hand it to Jeff.77100:40:42.889 --> 00:40:45.949



So the pay it forwards, for example, I don't know77200:40:45.989 --> 00:40:48.139



the exact number, but I think it's north of 80,000. Wow.77300:40:49.539 --> 00:40:51.539



Where we have, so the pay it forwards are at77400:40:51.579 --> 00:40:53.940



the level of, they leave the machine at the level77500:40:53.980 --> 00:40:57.699



of consciousness of 500. It's not as high as a77600:40:57.739 --> 00:41:01.780



regular subscription. It may not bring the property to 50077700:41:01.780 --> 00:41:04.449



because the property may have a geopathic stress zone or77800:41:04.489 --> 00:41:07.630



some anomaly where it's really low. Uh, but I think77900:41:07.650 --> 00:41:13.289



we've done 80,000 now. Um, We actually give away, we've78000:41:13.309 --> 00:41:15.550



always given away at least 90% of the energy of78100:41:15.570 --> 00:41:17.260



the machine anonymously.78200:41:19.460 --> 00:41:19.940



Wow.78300:41:19.960 --> 00:41:21.940



So we build that. We just upgrade the machine. It78400:41:21.960 --> 00:41:23.679



has more and more power. We just give it away.78500:41:24.579 --> 00:41:28.719



So we, for example, we have a project with bees, right?78600:41:28.739 --> 00:41:30.489



There's a lot of issues with bees on the planet.78700:41:30.639 --> 00:41:30.949



Yes.78800:41:31.309 --> 00:41:34.710



And so we're trying to find a way to help the,78900:41:35.329 --> 00:41:37.530



there's different theories about it. There's different chemicals, of course,79000:41:37.550 --> 00:41:41.360



that they've now banned that negatively affect bees. And there's79100:41:41.400 --> 00:41:47.539



theories about EMF influences on bees. So I'm not saying79200:41:47.559 --> 00:41:52.199



we have the answer, but we certainly will associate a79300:41:52.429 --> 00:41:56.250



certain philosophy program with beehives to try to create more79400:41:56.289 --> 00:41:59.409



resiliency in bees so that they can adapt quicker to79500:41:59.429 --> 00:42:03.309



whatever the environmental issue is, right? That's the same thing79600:42:03.349 --> 00:42:06.769



with our EMF program. The answer is not to block EMFs.79700:42:07.349 --> 00:42:10.949



It's to really optimize your experience with them So you79800:42:10.969 --> 00:42:15.510



build resiliency so that if FLFE isn't around or you're79900:42:15.550 --> 00:42:19.820



not in an FLFE environment for some reason, you have80000:42:19.860 --> 00:42:24.159



an increased level of adaptability or resiliency that's built into you.80100:42:24.940 --> 00:42:27.059



And it gets passed down through the generations, right? Because80200:42:27.079 --> 00:42:29.329



that's the answer is for humans to, you know, we80300:42:29.349 --> 00:42:32.030



have to make sure we don't harm each other with80400:42:32.050 --> 00:42:36.349



technology or harm the animal species of the planet. But80500:42:36.369 --> 00:42:39.639



I don't think, EMFs are going anywhere, right? So the80600:42:39.739 --> 00:42:44.179



answer is to make us more resilient. So that's a start, Jeff.80700:42:44.199 --> 00:42:45.300



You can pick it.80800:42:45.179 --> 00:42:45.579



Up from there.80900:42:48.119 --> 00:42:52.880



Well, we discovered during the time that we were raising81000:42:52.940 --> 00:42:57.210



consciousness during 2012 that there are places on the earth81100:42:57.230 --> 00:43:05.800



that are very low. Sometimes it's an effect... due to81200:43:05.889 --> 00:43:10.550



the motion of water or electricity or lava. You know,81300:43:10.570 --> 00:43:16.989



it's a natural effect that can flow energy or move81400:43:17.010 --> 00:43:20.289



energy away and create a low energy or low consciousness zone.81500:43:21.489 --> 00:43:25.760



And that's called geopathic stress. But for the most part,81600:43:25.820 --> 00:43:31.099



it's human activity, right? It's something bad that happened and81700:43:31.460 --> 00:43:35.289



maybe happened over and over. And there was some suffering.81800:43:36.269 --> 00:43:42.559



And that, because of the crystalline structure of just soil, rocks, concrete,81900:43:43.960 --> 00:43:48.639



it stays there. That energy creates a field that's very82000:43:48.699 --> 00:43:52.610



low and very hard for people that live nearby or82100:43:52.650 --> 00:43:56.920



people that are visiting the spot. So when we find82200:43:56.940 --> 00:44:00.059



those kind of places, we do what we can to82300:44:00.719 --> 00:44:06.230



clear the trauma on the land. And so the World82400:44:06.269 --> 00:44:09.849



War II concentration camps was one of the projects we did.82500:44:09.869 --> 00:44:14.469



You know, Poland, Germany, and other places, because they're very82600:44:14.610 --> 00:44:18.179



easy to find. You can find them on Google Earth,82700:44:18.239 --> 00:44:22.000



and then you can do a clearing program for those.82800:44:22.260 --> 00:44:25.079



So that was one of the very early ones, right?82900:44:25.610 --> 00:44:27.650



It was quite emotional.83000:44:27.889 --> 00:44:32.250



Yeah, I can only imagine. I can imagine. But that's exactly, Clayton,83100:44:32.530 --> 00:44:34.400



the number I was hoping to hear from you, is83200:44:34.420 --> 00:44:36.599



that the fact that this is what people need to hear,83300:44:36.840 --> 00:44:41.760



is that you guys give away 90% of the service.83400:44:41.780 --> 00:44:42.059



Minimum.83500:44:42.760 --> 00:44:47.929



I mean, that's astounding. I mean, it's incredible. Getting back83600:44:47.989 --> 00:44:51.679



to on the personal side of things, because... One of83700:44:51.699 --> 00:44:55.250



the things that struck me, we've had the service on83800:44:55.309 --> 00:44:59.170



for years now. And as I was preparing for the interview,83900:44:59.190 --> 00:45:02.889



I was sitting trying to see, do I feel the field?84000:45:03.010 --> 00:45:06.219



And I don't know that I do anymore because maybe84100:45:06.239 --> 00:45:09.010



I've been in it for so long. I'm used to it.84200:45:09.880 --> 00:45:14.420



Maybe that's my regular consciousness level now. I'm not really sure.84300:45:14.539 --> 00:45:19.690



But is there an effect that happens over time where,84400:45:20.329 --> 00:45:24.050



the service becomes just routine at that point? Or is84500:45:24.230 --> 00:45:29.980



there a way to jumpstart it again? Do you know84600:45:30.000 --> 00:45:30.760



what I'm getting at?84700:45:31.440 --> 00:45:36.280



Sure. Well, we're all so adaptable. I mean, human beings84800:45:36.300 --> 00:45:40.260



are probably one of the most adaptable animals on the planet.84900:45:40.420 --> 00:45:45.219



So we do get used to things. And one of85000:45:45.239 --> 00:45:48.619



the things we've discovered is the nutritional side of it.85100:45:50.460 --> 00:45:55.119



So that's in the customer portal that everybody has in85200:45:55.139 --> 00:45:59.579



the free trial. And subscribers, there's a consciousness nutrition section.85300:46:01.300 --> 00:46:05.590



So what we discovered is that in these high consciousness environments,85400:46:05.630 --> 00:46:08.570



like you've been in all these years, the body is85500:46:08.650 --> 00:46:12.570



adapting and it can get kind of behind in its85600:46:12.659 --> 00:46:18.630



adaptation and maybe stall out. So there are certain nutrients85700:46:18.690 --> 00:46:21.710



that are really good for the nervous system to adapt85800:46:21.889 --> 00:46:25.550



and help you to rise. And we look at these85900:46:25.590 --> 00:46:28.860



sort of critical factors like, well, what's holding us back86000:46:29.400 --> 00:46:32.960



right now? Like recently we discovered that copper was holding86100:46:33.019 --> 00:46:33.420



us back.86200:46:34.360 --> 00:46:34.659



Wow.86300:46:34.980 --> 00:46:38.179



You know, that we were all kind of short on copper.86400:46:39.039 --> 00:46:44.710



And so some of these minerals and metals... are part86500:46:44.750 --> 00:46:48.260



of our normal diet, but due to the way farming86600:46:48.340 --> 00:46:50.179



is now, we may not be getting as much as86700:46:50.239 --> 00:46:55.340



we used to. So magnesium is kind of the top86800:46:55.599 --> 00:46:59.719



dog on the list, and essential fatty acids like a86900:46:59.760 --> 00:47:04.050



fish oil or some other kind of essential fatty acid mix,87000:47:04.650 --> 00:47:08.809



those taken together can really help the body to build87100:47:08.989 --> 00:47:13.250



its capacity, and that That capacity, it's interesting, it's not87200:47:13.289 --> 00:47:17.989



in our digital nervous system where you've got your neurons87300:47:18.070 --> 00:47:24.469



firing and you're secreting neurotransmitters. It's in our analog nervous system,87400:47:24.510 --> 00:47:30.570



which is our connective tissue and our myelin sheaths that87500:47:30.670 --> 00:47:33.590



cover the nerves. So it's like you've got all these87600:47:33.710 --> 00:47:37.250



nerves doing this, but there's a covering that goes through87700:47:37.510 --> 00:47:41.090



all the nerves. And there's energy moving throughout our body87800:47:41.849 --> 00:47:47.309



And it's why acupuncture and acupressure often is tapping into87900:47:47.489 --> 00:47:51.980



part of our myofascia or other parts of our connective tissue.88000:47:52.760 --> 00:47:57.079



So when you take magnesium and essential fatty acids, as88100:47:57.159 --> 00:48:02.039



well as in the consciousness nutrition page, you'll find zinc88200:48:03.079 --> 00:48:06.409



and other things that are really helpful as well to88300:48:06.650 --> 00:48:10.320



build that. And then sometimes people take a jump up88400:48:10.440 --> 00:48:11.699



when they do that.88500:48:12.139 --> 00:48:14.219



I'm so glad you mentioned that because there have been,88600:48:14.239 --> 00:48:19.469



and you're constantly changing that portal and providing more stuff88700:48:19.530 --> 00:48:22.670



and new stuff and things like that. So if you88800:48:22.809 --> 00:48:25.429



are a subscriber already and you haven't checked into your88900:48:25.469 --> 00:48:27.570



portal in a while, I would recommend you log in89000:48:27.690 --> 00:48:29.289



because you might be surprised at some of the stuff89100:48:29.309 --> 00:48:30.710



that you're going to find in there now these days89200:48:30.730 --> 00:48:33.650



because I was surprised, to be honest with you.89300:48:35.110 --> 00:48:38.559



So when someone is... is in this wonderful space, you know,89400:48:38.679 --> 00:48:40.590



you're having the fish oil, like it, like say your89500:48:40.670 --> 00:48:43.349



optimum and everything is great. And then you leave your89600:48:43.389 --> 00:48:46.889



house and you go to work where it's not great.89700:48:47.170 --> 00:48:47.429



Yes.89800:48:47.610 --> 00:48:52.079



Do you take this energy with you or like, does89900:48:52.119 --> 00:48:55.000



it build you up enough to help support that? Because90000:48:55.039 --> 00:48:58.139



sometimes it feels like you come back home and you're like,90100:48:58.639 --> 00:49:00.119



and then you got to get amped up again. What90200:49:00.159 --> 00:49:02.159



can you do to kind of keep I guess that's90300:49:02.219 --> 00:49:05.059



a better question. The energy that you feel in your90400:49:05.079 --> 00:49:08.329



home when it's surrounded in the love zone, how do90500:49:08.349 --> 00:49:11.340



you keep that with you when you travel out places?90600:49:11.340 --> 00:49:16.789



Well, you can switch your home address to your work90700:49:16.789 --> 00:49:20.019



address in your in your customer portal you can go90800:49:20.099 --> 00:49:23.019



in and just switch it when you go before you90900:49:23.039 --> 00:49:23.599



go to work.91000:49:23.760 --> 00:49:27.980



Oh surprise yeah wow.91100:49:28.139 --> 00:49:30.460



I did not realize that i gotta check the portal.91200:49:30.409 --> 00:49:33.630



Yeah but the question is whose office oh.91300:49:33.550 --> 00:49:35.630



That's yes well i think yours is worse than mine91400:49:35.789 --> 00:49:36.250



yes it's a.91500:49:36.210 --> 00:49:39.679



Little picture yeah And then, of course, you could subscribe91600:49:39.719 --> 00:49:43.829



to FLFE everywhere. Right. And you have it around an object.91700:49:44.230 --> 00:49:44.829



Okay.91800:49:44.869 --> 00:49:47.730



So one of the things I've considered doing is getting91900:49:47.750 --> 00:49:50.210



it anywhere, so it was surrounded around my cell phone.92000:49:50.230 --> 00:49:52.260



So anywhere that I have my, I carry my cell92100:49:52.280 --> 00:49:52.940



phone everywhere.92200:49:53.119 --> 00:49:53.420



I know.92300:49:53.639 --> 00:49:55.739



So that would be an addition that we can do92400:49:55.800 --> 00:49:58.019



and just have you carry that bubble with you.92500:49:58.900 --> 00:50:02.539



Oh, okay. Yeah, that creates a 300-foot bubble around the phone,92600:50:02.559 --> 00:50:05.809



so you're helping all of your coworkers as well. Oh. Yeah. Yeah.92700:50:06.969 --> 00:50:09.849



I mean, the main focus is in a nine-foot bubble,92800:50:09.909 --> 00:50:13.730



but it does radiate out 300 feet because it has to...92900:50:13.949 --> 00:50:16.690



You need a certain amount of distance to harmonize or93000:50:16.769 --> 00:50:20.469



optimize the EMFs coming in and optimize different environmental influences.93100:50:20.510 --> 00:50:22.650



So it's a pretty big bubble. Sure.93200:50:22.869 --> 00:50:24.929



Wow. That's great.93300:50:24.989 --> 00:50:27.030



Now, you bring up a good point, right? So I'm93400:50:27.170 --> 00:50:28.949



carrying around my phone with me, and I've got this93500:50:28.989 --> 00:50:31.329



nine-foot bubble that extends out to 30 feet. Now, all93600:50:31.369 --> 00:50:34.090



these people in the office, some of them may want93700:50:34.110 --> 00:50:38.110



to stay... grouchy and low consciousness. And yet here I93800:50:38.250 --> 00:50:41.030



am with my little love bubble, portable love bubble thing.93900:50:41.510 --> 00:50:43.610



How does consent fall into this thing?94000:50:45.849 --> 00:50:50.880



Well, free will is always primary. And you can be94100:50:51.119 --> 00:50:55.000



as grouchy as you want to be in an environment94200:50:55.039 --> 00:50:59.699



like that. It's really up to us as individuals, the94300:50:59.739 --> 00:51:02.980



choices we make moment to moment. And I would say94400:51:04.380 --> 00:51:08.010



You know, it's like blessing someone. It's like giving someone94500:51:08.300 --> 00:51:12.309



your sitting down in a meditation and saying, you know,94600:51:12.329 --> 00:51:16.269



I want mom to have the best health. You know,94700:51:16.289 --> 00:51:18.170



I want whatever's going for her.94800:51:18.230 --> 00:51:18.429



Right.94900:51:18.489 --> 00:51:20.989



Like, may you be well. May you be in peace.95000:51:21.030 --> 00:51:23.239



That kind of, those meditations are pray for me. I'm95100:51:23.260 --> 00:51:24.199



sure it makes sense. Yes.95200:51:24.579 --> 00:51:27.619



Yeah. It's really that, what we're doing with that. And95300:51:28.519 --> 00:51:31.460



we're doing it personally, too. So even if you're going95400:51:31.480 --> 00:51:34.679



into work and you don't have FLFE, I mean, you're95500:51:34.719 --> 00:51:40.579



taking your own personal consciousness level with you. And yeah,95600:51:40.619 --> 00:51:45.380



you can maybe see the others as bringing you down,95700:51:45.440 --> 00:51:48.409



but you could also be bringing them up, and you are.95800:51:49.289 --> 00:51:53.130



And what we find is that people that are naturally95900:51:53.230 --> 00:51:56.889



high have to use their own personal energy to compensate96000:51:57.489 --> 00:52:01.880



for a low environment. So if they're not using something96100:52:01.929 --> 00:52:05.690



like an FLFE, they're using a personal energy and it96200:52:06.289 --> 00:52:07.130



can make you tired.96300:52:07.329 --> 00:52:08.230



Oh, good God.96400:52:08.690 --> 00:52:12.710



But you're also shining your light. You are making a96500:52:12.750 --> 00:52:17.610



difference in that place. And some people say you can96600:52:17.949 --> 00:52:22.800



pull your energy in a little bit rather than trying96700:52:22.820 --> 00:52:26.139



to extend it to the whole office. If you kind96800:52:26.179 --> 00:52:28.840



of hold it in a little bit, you can also96900:52:29.400 --> 00:52:32.570



conserve your energy while you're there. But the power of97000:52:32.710 --> 00:52:36.809



people working together, it also pushes our buttons. And, you know,97100:52:36.869 --> 00:52:41.369



it does create that triggering, which is an opportunity. If97200:52:41.409 --> 00:52:45.679



we see those as an opportunity to evolve, to like, ooh, okay,97300:52:45.929 --> 00:52:50.719



I'm feeling like buzzed, like mad. You know, something happened97400:52:51.440 --> 00:52:53.980



in that. What did they say? And then you try97500:52:54.000 --> 00:52:57.340



to maybe later in the meditation, like what was behind that?97600:52:57.500 --> 00:53:00.360



Like what happened? What did my father say to me97700:53:00.400 --> 00:53:04.380



when I was five that was the same thing this97800:53:04.420 --> 00:53:05.219



person said to me?97900:53:06.079 --> 00:53:07.000



Right, right.98000:53:07.800 --> 00:53:12.349



So I always love the business place to find my98100:53:12.429 --> 00:53:15.949



triggers in order to work on them and clear them.98200:53:16.849 --> 00:53:20.070



So maybe it's good to be with a bunch of98300:53:20.110 --> 00:53:22.789



people pushing our triggers. It's one way to look at it.98400:53:23.150 --> 00:53:25.769



That's very true. I love your optimism. I really do.98500:53:26.690 --> 00:53:30.289



This day and age. where companies are pretty matrixed, right?98600:53:30.409 --> 00:53:34.349



So take me, for example. I sit in an office98700:53:34.989 --> 00:53:38.050



in Virginia, but my boss sits in a different office98800:53:38.090 --> 00:53:41.130



in Florida, and her boss sits in a different office98900:53:41.170 --> 00:53:44.489



in Atlanta, Georgia, right? So if we were to put99000:53:44.530 --> 00:53:50.369



it on the office where I sit, how would that99100:53:50.429 --> 00:53:54.150



affect the interaction between, say, my boss and I, for example?99200:53:56.139 --> 00:53:56.489



Or would it?99300:53:57.389 --> 00:54:00.079



Well, if you're in a higher state, that will automatically99400:54:00.719 --> 00:54:05.099



transfer to other people, right? So if your level of,99500:54:05.219 --> 00:54:08.800



you know, when you're in a higher level of consciousness,99600:54:09.829 --> 00:54:14.530



you're the power against the force, if you will.99700:54:14.829 --> 00:54:16.130



Or the light side versus the dark side.99800:54:17.389 --> 00:54:19.230



Yeah, and it's not that they're not, they're dark, but99900:54:19.250 --> 00:54:24.110



it's like the highest truth wins in a, In an100000:54:24.190 --> 00:54:27.710



energetic environment, the largest amount of light. So first of all,100100:54:28.570 --> 00:54:32.250



we recognize that we have light. FLFE is not the100200:54:32.349 --> 00:54:35.110



only way to raise your consciousness, but it certainly helps.100300:54:36.030 --> 00:54:38.949



If you are on a call, even on a Zoom call,100400:54:39.590 --> 00:54:42.449



if you have FLFE in your environment, there is an100500:54:42.510 --> 00:54:45.659



effect with other people on the call. Now, it's not100600:54:45.800 --> 00:54:48.059



quite the same as a boost, but there is kind100700:54:49.179 --> 00:54:54.360



of an association of energy between electronics when people are100800:54:54.400 --> 00:54:56.880



on FLFE. And we don't have the level of data100900:54:56.900 --> 00:54:58.800



that I'd like to have on that, but we've got101000:54:58.840 --> 00:55:04.130



lots of anecdotal evidence. So there's something about that. And,101100:55:04.789 --> 00:55:06.250



you know, like most of the, a lot of things101200:55:06.289 --> 00:55:09.349



are really practical. So if you're working, if you're at101300:55:09.389 --> 00:55:11.070



work and you don't have FLFE and you have your101400:55:11.110 --> 00:55:15.599



own office, clean your office, like go into your office.101500:55:15.639 --> 00:55:19.159



Like when I had, when I was self-employed, if I101600:55:19.199 --> 00:55:22.340



wanted business, I learned this from my wife. What I101700:55:22.380 --> 00:55:25.480



would do is I would take everything out of my office, everything,101800:55:26.340 --> 00:55:29.090



unplug the phone, everything out. I would wipe the walls down,101900:55:29.119 --> 00:55:31.949



wipe the ceiling down with a cloth and some water.102000:55:33.030 --> 00:55:35.150



I'd wipe the carpet down. I wouldn't steam clean it,102100:55:35.150 --> 00:55:37.769



but I'd wipe everything down. And then I'd start putting102200:55:37.809 --> 00:55:39.789



my furniture back in one piece at a time, and102300:55:39.809 --> 00:55:43.010



I would wipe down everything. I wouldn't wipe in between102400:55:43.090 --> 00:55:44.750



every page of a book, but I'd wipe the spine102500:55:44.769 --> 00:55:46.510



of the book. Or I'd have a duster, and you'd102600:55:46.530 --> 00:55:48.630



just dust it. And you'd start putting it back in.102700:55:49.659 --> 00:55:52.000



And then I got to the point where maybe half102800:55:52.039 --> 00:55:55.400



my furniture's in. I'd put my desk in, and I102900:55:55.400 --> 00:55:57.119



had a desk that I took apart because it wouldn't103000:55:57.159 --> 00:56:00.880



fit through the door. It wasn't a super fancy desk,103100:56:00.900 --> 00:56:02.679



but I'd put it back together, wipe it down. I'd103200:56:02.699 --> 00:56:06.039



plug in my phone because it would take me a103300:56:06.059 --> 00:56:08.320



whole day to do this. Sure. Yeah. So at about103400:56:08.320 --> 00:56:10.420



1 o'clock, I'm putting my desk back in. I plug103500:56:10.460 --> 00:56:14.579



my phone in. Before 5 o'clock, every single time, the103600:56:14.619 --> 00:56:17.599



phone would ring and I would get business. Yeah. All right,103700:56:17.679 --> 00:56:18.179



every time.103800:56:18.280 --> 00:56:19.679



That's it. We're cleaning out the office.103900:56:20.320 --> 00:56:20.619



Yes.104000:56:20.659 --> 00:56:21.480



Thank you.104100:56:21.519 --> 00:56:26.519



Yeah, that might sound weird. I didn't believe it. It's like, oh, yeah, sure, okay.104200:56:26.539 --> 00:56:29.820



You know, I understand this feng shui, woo-woo stuff. So104300:56:29.840 --> 00:56:32.179



let's put it to the test. So it cost me dinner.104400:56:33.019 --> 00:56:33.420



Oh, well.104500:56:33.559 --> 00:56:36.260



I bet dinner on it. But it worked every time,104600:56:36.280 --> 00:56:36.510



you know.104700:56:36.619 --> 00:56:36.820



Yeah.104800:56:37.119 --> 00:56:39.610



In this case, I think it's more pride that's going104900:56:39.630 --> 00:56:40.469



to cost, but, you know.105000:56:40.550 --> 00:56:46.599



I don't know. Pride and steak, they go really well together.105100:56:46.619 --> 00:56:49.519



I mean, you're not wrong. You're not wrong.105200:56:49.559 --> 00:56:52.889



So for people who are just listening and don't know105300:56:53.130 --> 00:56:55.869



or don't really understand a whole lot of, you know, FLE,105400:56:55.889 --> 00:56:59.210



they're getting curious, they want to learn more. Can you talk,105500:56:59.230 --> 00:57:01.489



you said there you had quite a few different anecdotes105600:57:01.570 --> 00:57:04.480



of people where this has impacted them. Can you just105700:57:04.559 --> 00:57:06.840



tell us about a couple of them so people can say, oh,105800:57:07.300 --> 00:57:08.880



this is what would happen if I tried it, just105900:57:08.900 --> 00:57:11.480



so they can get that, an idea. Mm-hmm.106000:57:13.619 --> 00:57:16.880



Yeah, we had a mother talk to us, and she106100:57:16.900 --> 00:57:22.559



had two boys, and like two boys of, you know,106200:57:22.679 --> 00:57:26.960



kind of the three to five years old, just fighting,106300:57:27.460 --> 00:57:29.739



you know, just fighting. I mean, they would hurt each106400:57:29.800 --> 00:57:34.409



other every day, right? Somebody's crying, somebody's hurt. And she106500:57:34.449 --> 00:57:37.309



put the service on, and she was in the kitchen106600:57:37.349 --> 00:57:41.389



making dinner, and it was really quiet. In the other room.106700:57:41.469 --> 00:57:42.590



She goes, uh-oh.106800:57:42.610 --> 00:57:44.230



That's scary. That's scary as a parent.106900:57:44.250 --> 00:57:44.949



Who killed whom?107000:57:44.969 --> 00:57:48.630



Right.107100:57:48.690 --> 00:57:51.909



So she goes in there, and the one brother has107200:57:51.949 --> 00:57:56.110



his arm around the other brother and says, like, I107300:57:56.150 --> 00:57:57.230



didn't know you felt that way.107400:57:59.230 --> 00:57:59.949



What?107500:58:00.590 --> 00:58:04.139



This was, like, the biggest miracle she'd ever seen.107600:58:04.179 --> 00:58:04.539



Wow.107700:58:04.559 --> 00:58:04.820



Right?107800:58:06.559 --> 00:58:10.449



I mean, they were, like, sharing their feelings with each other.107900:58:10.469 --> 00:58:13.289



I was like, boys of that kind of age.108000:58:13.670 --> 00:58:14.329



Wow.108100:58:14.909 --> 00:58:15.530



That's incredible.108200:58:15.630 --> 00:58:18.250



So that's one. And we hear that a lot, that108300:58:18.869 --> 00:58:23.559



there's just like a different level of connecting that people do.108400:58:24.219 --> 00:58:27.159



So I think that part about Philippi is the connecting108500:58:27.219 --> 00:58:33.199



between basically ourselves and the hidden parts of ourselves, connecting108600:58:33.219 --> 00:58:36.300



with someone else, and then connecting with all that is108700:58:36.400 --> 00:58:36.960



our divinity.108800:58:36.980 --> 00:58:37.360



Right.108900:58:38.699 --> 00:58:42.860



So connecting is part of what happens. Taking care of109000:58:42.900 --> 00:58:48.780



the space is another one, like cleaning. We get over109100:58:48.820 --> 00:58:51.320



and over teenagers cleaning their rooms.109200:58:51.500 --> 00:58:52.639



Oh, yeah, it's not working.109300:58:54.329 --> 00:58:59.929



We need a boost. Once we get some special boosts,109400:58:59.969 --> 00:59:02.969



we'll do the teenager cleaning their room special boost.109500:59:03.010 --> 00:59:05.050



That would be a big seller. I'll tell you right now.109600:59:08.739 --> 00:59:11.420



So the the other thing we we hear very often109700:59:11.440 --> 00:59:13.980



and we this came out in the research that we109800:59:14.019 --> 00:59:18.139



did on EMF sensitive people but it happens with with109900:59:18.380 --> 00:59:24.340



all FLFE subscribers is this feeling of anxiety reducing like110000:59:24.980 --> 00:59:26.320



all of a sudden you could just take a deep110100:59:26.380 --> 00:59:28.780



breath like you're out like you're out in the woods110200:59:28.800 --> 00:59:33.500



you know So that's, we hear that over and over.110300:59:33.519 --> 00:59:36.579



I just, you know, I turned it on. I just110400:59:37.639 --> 00:59:41.199



relaxed into my chair and I felt my tension start110500:59:41.219 --> 00:59:46.429



to go down. Sometimes it's very dramatic, you know, that happens.110600:59:46.590 --> 00:59:46.820



Yeah.110700:59:47.179 --> 00:59:49.469



So is it possible to do, you know, like when110800:59:49.489 --> 00:59:52.210



you jumpstart a car, you know, or you, you know,110900:59:53.260 --> 00:59:56.199



you jumpstart a heart or something with, you know, paddles, clear!111000:59:57.880 --> 01:00:00.110



If you, like, if we weren't to shut off the111101:00:00.119 --> 01:00:02.849



service ourselves, wait a few minutes, then turn it back111201:00:02.949 --> 01:00:05.550



on again, would it maybe work as like a jolt111301:00:05.829 --> 01:00:08.690



of re-energizing, do you think? Or is it just going111401:00:08.710 --> 01:00:09.590



to be the same?111501:00:12.250 --> 01:00:14.730



It's worth trying, and that's why we have the control panel.111601:00:14.949 --> 01:00:18.030



It's all for you to experiment with. So yeah, right111701:00:18.070 --> 01:00:20.199



there on the control panel, you can turn it off111801:00:21.139 --> 01:00:24.130



and just see how it goes for a couple of111901:00:24.170 --> 01:00:26.469



hours or an hour or a few minutes, whatever you can,112001:00:27.389 --> 01:00:31.260



whatever you could stand. And then because it does, it112101:00:32.039 --> 01:00:36.780



does go back to its original level at some point.112201:00:37.380 --> 01:00:41.670



And then it will, it kind of goes up high112301:00:41.710 --> 01:00:42.989



when you first turn it back on.112401:00:43.070 --> 01:00:46.340



So Well, you know, the engineer's solution is always turn112501:00:46.360 --> 01:00:48.300



it off and turn it back on again. So maybe112601:00:48.320 --> 01:00:50.719



it's worth a shot. We'll see.112701:00:50.739 --> 01:00:51.829



Sounds like I'm an engineer.112801:00:54.769 --> 01:01:00.309



Well, the service is truly remarkable. You guys are truly remarkable.112901:01:00.570 --> 01:01:03.969



It is an honor being in the same space with113001:01:04.010 --> 01:01:07.820



you guys. Every time that we talk to you, you113101:01:07.840 --> 01:01:12.579



just remind us how amazing incredible flfe is and how113201:01:12.989 --> 01:01:16.849



amazing you guys are so if someone was interested in113301:01:17.670 --> 01:01:20.550



going down this rabbit hole with us and if they113401:01:20.809 --> 01:01:25.489



they felt something during this conversation where would they go113501:01:25.719 --> 01:01:29.579



to to subscribe or to actually more importantly to try113601:01:29.800 --> 01:01:32.400



it out for free without having to put down a113701:01:32.420 --> 01:01:34.980



credit card where would they go to to initiate that113801:01:35.019 --> 01:01:36.340



process you would.113901:01:36.239 --> 01:01:39.619



Go to our website and uh Yeah, you can do114001:01:39.639 --> 01:01:43.119



the free trial, no credit card. You can't get accidentally billed.114101:01:44.679 --> 01:01:48.409



It'll take, sometimes the service is on within a few114201:01:48.590 --> 01:01:52.070



seconds of you entering your address. It happens pretty quick. Wow. Oh, wow.114301:01:52.090 --> 01:01:54.170



And then we check the service within, we check it114401:01:54.190 --> 01:01:56.949



within 24 hours to make sure it's on. But I114501:01:56.989 --> 01:01:58.739



don't know if in the last year we haven't had114601:01:58.800 --> 01:02:01.539



anybody that, because sometimes you have to get the address right.114701:02:01.559 --> 01:02:02.699



Right.114801:02:02.800 --> 01:02:04.719



Or if you're in a part of the world that114901:02:04.760 --> 01:02:09.510



doesn't have a really good legal system in terms of115001:02:09.590 --> 01:02:12.309



knowing where the boundaries are on properties. Sometimes it might115101:02:12.329 --> 01:02:14.409



take someone to go on there and do it manually.115201:02:14.429 --> 01:02:16.989



And we have other ways that we can get you on,115301:02:17.190 --> 01:02:19.760



but that'll all be evident in the signup process.115401:02:19.940 --> 01:02:20.280



Gotcha.115501:02:20.539 --> 01:02:23.920



Okay. Well, we are also going to add a special115601:02:23.980 --> 01:02:26.219



link in our show notes. So if you're interested and115701:02:26.260 --> 01:02:28.320



you don't, you didn't have a pen to write down115801:02:28.380 --> 01:02:31.219



at that particular point in time, you just go to skepticmetaphysician.com.115901:02:31.260 --> 01:02:32.969



You can go to their episode page. You'll see that116001:02:33.030 --> 01:02:34.909



link directly laid in our show notes. So it's easy116101:02:35.329 --> 01:02:36.820



for you to try it out for you. And I,116201:02:37.880 --> 01:02:41.239



Believe me, if you do one thing from this show,116301:02:41.519 --> 01:02:44.909



it is check out FLFE. Everyone I've talked to that116401:02:44.969 --> 01:02:48.010



is on the service just swears by it. So, guys,116501:02:48.409 --> 01:02:50.409



as always, an absolute pleasure. Thank you so much for116601:02:50.429 --> 01:02:51.909



being on the show. Thank you so much for what116701:02:51.929 --> 01:02:54.320



you're doing with the world. And, hey, keep it up116801:02:54.599 --> 01:02:56.219



because we need that a lot.116901:02:56.320 --> 01:02:56.760



So do.117001:02:58.099 --> 01:02:58.800



Thanks for being on the show.

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Co-founders of Focused Life-Force Energy (FLFE)orce Energy

Focused Life-Force Energy began in 2008 when two men
with an interest in high-consciousness fields met through
a mutual friend. After coming across the beginnings
of an invention that would become part of the FLFE
system, Jeffrey Stegman and Clayten Stedmann worked
together to develop it into more. Eventually, they would
broadcast high-consciousness fields to specific locations
around the world. They poured thousands of hours into
research and development to share this technology.
Beginning with service projects and targeting traumahit areas like refugee camps, FLFE grew into a private
company and is now invited into the lives of thousands
of people in over 70 countries. We still donate
approximately 90% of our service with global projects
including support for bees, whales, and dolphins as well
as other larger global projects.
FLFE is a thriving international organization that
continues to explore what is in the highest and best
interest of all creation.

Bios for Clayten and Jeff
Jeffrey Stegman’s focus has been on creating high consciousness culture in his businesses, which parallels his own personal spiritual path. Jeffrey is the co-owner of two manufacturing businesses, including one that has been in business since 1835. FLFE is a confluence of Jeffrey’s manufacturing, engineering, business, and spiritual evolution.
Clayten Stedmann has worked in the education, training, and coaching business for over thirty years. For the last twenty years, he has focused on business as a spiritual path in his coachi… Read More

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