You’re Already Receiving Divine Guidance. Here’s Why You’re Missing It.

0:00 Karen. Yes. Has there been a moment in your life where you were about to make a really important decision? Yes. Oh, something inside you just knew. Like actually knew what the right answer was and you still said, yeah. Apparently, that is a very common thing. Yeah. It's what most of us do, like all the time. And our guest today says that we are already getting divine guidance around the clock. We just keep talking ourselves out of it. She spent 30 years in mainstream publishing, especially specifically muscle car magazines. Oh, wow. Automotive trade shows, hundreds of TV appearances, and then angels showed up and said, hey, that's changed your life, shall we? Now she's got a question that she says works in any situation, any time for anyone to know whether what we're getting is actually divine guidance or just our own indigestion. Even if you've never done anything remotely like this before. And apparently once you tell us what that is, we're not going to believe how simple it is, Karen. Yeah. So we've been like missing out this whole time. Missing out that completely, like beyond, like, it's embarrassing how much we've been missing out. Yeah. I'm intrigued to see you, Candelies. And we hope that you are too because the skeptic musicians start now. My name is Will.

1:26 And I'm Karen. And unlike Moldor and Scully. Both want to believe. So we've embarked on a journey of discovery. We've talked to people deeply entrenched in the spiritual and metaphysical world. We've thrown ourselves into weird and wonderful experiences. I even joined a Covenant witch's. And wait, you joined a Covenant? Yep. All in the interest of fighting something. Anything that will prove that there's something beyond this physical. Three-dimensional world we all live in. This is the skeptic metaphys. Hey, there, I'm Will. And I'm Karen. Welcome back to the skeptic metaphys. I'm going to show that asked the questions that your brain keeps vetoing even if it comes from the angelic realm. Today's guests have spent three decades launching more than 20 magazines, including Law of Attraction magazine. She goes wrote two books for Ed Begley, Jr.

2:16 and appeared on hundreds of TV and radio shows as a spokesperson for the automotive industry. Wow. That she calls herself a valley girl and a recovering Ivy Lee's in-gen selector. I haven't heard valley girl in 80s. In a long time, right? And somewhere in the middle of all that, she started receiving messages from the angels. Her award-winning book is My Angel Coach. And there's a lot more to it to that title. I'll tell you about later. But right now, I just want to welcome to the show Sue Elliott Sue. How are you doing today? I am great. How are you? Oh, great. It's a great to be. We are great too. Great. So the topic of today's show is one that is really near and dear to my heart because if there's anyone who has repeatedly ignored his own darn guidance, it's me.

3:08 Because you always think, nah, right, I'm just, that's just me thinking things or whatever. So I guess there's so many different questions, but let's just start out with, how do you know for sure that that's my ingestion? I love that question. So we call it of courseness. Of course. It feels like, oh, of course. That's your divine guidance, right? So we have all these voices in our head. We've got that, you know, mean mom voice or mean teacher voice or all those that the truly devices, the sort of manic voices, all the different flavors. It's like in the movie Inside Out, right? She's got all the little characters in her head and they're all saying their things. And our divine guidance feels different, right? So we're always getting divine guidance. It doesn't matter if you're meditating or you're anxious or you're fearful, like wherever you are, the angels and the diviner meeting you right there with information about the one next step typically. And it feels different from the other voices in our head. So there are voices that feel very negative and critical and judgmental. We know those all too well. That's not your divine guidance.

4:23 I promise you that. Why is not telling you you're wrong? You did it wrong. You're not doing enough. You're not doing enough. So is that your ego that's doing that? That's actually something you're bothering a lot. I'm telling my mom. We have massive programming on this planet. So we have subconscious programming. Dr. Bruce Lipton, the neuroscientist likes to talk about how during the first seven years of life, we're kind of wide open and we're taking in everything as the rules to live by. And the angels and I like to call that gunk. We don't want to make a big hairy deal about it, right? It sounds big and hard to change. But the angels make it super easy.

5:04 All you ever have to do is just say, "Angels, we dissolve my gunk." And they'll do that. Well, that's quite the visual. First gunk and then a big hairy gunk on top of that is then a liquid plumber being poured by angels. I love that. So how... I don't know. When you have those negative thoughts you were talking about, they feel bad. Yeah. And then you know, you have the, "Oh, maybe thoughts and the met thoughts." And you're saying that messages from the angels feel different. But how do you know because the bad thoughts feel different from the met thoughts? Like they all feel different from each other anyway. So if you have no, if you've never meditated, if you are very new to this whole thought process, how would you know that that isn't just one of these but different? So there's two flavors to divine guidance in my experience and the angels are agree. So there's what the one that I call, of course, which, you know, when it drops in, it's like, "Oh, of course the next step is to do that." Like, and my inner eight-year-old kind of rolls rise and goes, "Duh, I knew that." So it feels like, "Of course." Oh, of course it's that.

6:19 And it feels neutral, right? It doesn't feel positive, it doesn't feel negative, it just feels like, "Oh, right." So there's a neutrality. And then the other flavor I call feeling your way forward, or you know, the angels are calling us forward. So there might be a little pop of energy. And I'll use this for the most mundane things, right? Like, I'm going out to dinner tonight, what restaurant am I going to go to? And I'll just kind of consider the possibilities. And I'll think about one place and nothing, and then I'll think about another place. And it's like, "Ooh." And so that little, "Ooh," like that's them calling us forward. That's eagerness or curiosity. Like some of the energies that call us forward are excitement. Not that kind of, well, we don't even want to go there. Like, no.

7:07 I don't know how to use the eyes of you. Sometimes they stop me, so sorry. But they want to say, they will be calling us forward through interest, eagerness, curiosity, more and more. Because the world is changing so fast right now, that it's very hard to make long-term plans. I mean, you know, people are still trying to make five-year plans. Corporations are still doing five-year budgets. It's so cute. We're talking about you. You love you. You're so cute. The perfect word for it, cute. Yeah. It always makes me feel better when I say that because I override my guidance still too. It's not like I'm 100% perfect at this. We're all works in progress. But there, because everything is changing quickly, it's hard to know. We're navigating a lot of uncertainty right now. And so they want us to really use these tools. Right? How does it feel? Does it feel, ooh, like I feel some, it feels yummy. I want to go do that thing. It feels yummy or it feels yucky. Right. And especially if it's that instantaneous response, because those of us who override our guidance, that's the mind kicks in slightly later. It's not a lot later often if we're very active in the mind. But there's that visceral instantaneous response. And yummy and yucky is one of our favorites because if you've ever fed a toddler, you know, if you put something in your mouth, it's definitely like right back out all over the side. You're not wearing it. Yeah, exactly. And that doesn't get

8:38 programmed out. The mind can't override that physical response. You're right. So Sue, I mean, it sounds wonderful. Here's here's where I'm having a hard time wrapping my head around it because I am one of those guys, right? If I always followed my yummy feelings, I would be sitting in an ice cream shop not working eating ice cream Sundays all day long because my body is saying, oh, yeah, baby, you need that, right? But it's saying, of course, you need that ice cream Sunday, right? So so it has to be something more to it than that because otherwise is not like a little bit, I mean, not to use the term spiritual bypassing, but physical bypassing, right? Because you just everything is fine. You don't need that bypassed after all that ice. You have a gastro bypass, right?

9:25 Well, so first the angels want to address the assumption there, which is that you will always crave ice cream, which is actually not true. I mean, I don't know. So they want to say, I love ice cream. So I'm with you on that. And they want to say the belief that we should not eat it and that it's bad for us is one of the reasons that we think that's what's going to happen if we give ourselves permission to do whatever we want. But there comes a point where we've had enough ice cream. There actually, so there is actually a satiety that happens when we give ourselves permission. But this is a whole very different conversation. Yeah, I think you just might not know my angel. And okay, so there's a reason that every religion has a blessing over food. So they really want to go there. We have the potency and the divine has the potency to transform anything and transmute anything. Oh, I like where you are headed there, Sue. So literally, and I'm getting wave after wave of goosebumps, which in my body is the angels going, yes. So you literally could eat poison. They're not recommending that you try this.

10:34 But if you bless it, you could eat something. There's a, they want to put it this way. They want to back away from the poison, back away from the poison. They want to say, if you've ever gone to eat somewhere and somebody's gotten food poisoning and you ate the exact same thing as them and you did not get food poisoning. You were in a different space, right? You were in a different energetic. I used to go to this one place in high school where regularly I would get food poisoning. And the people I ate with did not and they were more sensitive. But they're saying the blessing of food or the intention that we put into the food. And if we don't remember to do this every time, that's fine. The angels, we can give the angels carte blanche, right? Bless my food, uplift my food for my body's best nourishment, transform whatever I put into my body to be of highest benefit for me in this moment.

11:27 We can move through the world with these powerful intentions. And then a couple things happen. We have the ability to change the matter that's going into our system. So we could eat something that's a little sketchy, right? That's on the verge of going bad and be fine. And what we feel inspired to do is different. So if we're moving through the world really trying to be in the present in the moment and tune into our guidance and follow the guidance, then it's highly unlikely we're going to want ice cream 24/7. There's going to come a point where we're like, you know what? I really just want some broccoli. And I promise you, it happens to me. The strangest thing happened over the last year. I like broccoli better than french fries now. Go figure. Wow, I need that. Yeah.

12:15 Did it happen because you eat enough french fries? You went no more, I need broccoli now, or it's just your tastes changed. My tastes changed. Oh, okay. Well, yeah. And what feels good in my body changed. You know, so there was a time where I could eat anything and everything. I wish I was still there. The good news is I'm listening to my body now. It's hard because that's where the guidance comes in. Right? So the angels want to go back to that because our mind is very busy. I imagine most of the people who are listening to your show have very active busy minds. They're thinking about things, they're analyzing things. They may be making lists of pros and cons. Heaven knows I lived my life that way for most of my life and still have my moments. But our mind has all those filters. So those subconscious beliefs, the subconscious programming that we were talking about a moment ago, that creates filters. So you don't see the world as it is, you see what you believe. Put it in the way your subconscious always makes you right. You know, we receive, we're aware now because of social media and the internet of how much information is coming in, but there's even more and always has been our eyes are receiving something like a billion bits of information as second. Clearly that's more than a brain process. So we filter out what's superfluous. We make rules, we make habits because we're trying to look at what's relevant and not the 27 million things that are not relevant in that moment. Right. And sometimes unfortunately our brain does filter out

13:46 the most important stuff too. We just don't want to see it, but yes, sorry. But it does. No, but that's exactly the point. You don't digress at all. That is us making ourselves right. So cognitive resistance is real and you don't have to go down that rabbit hole. But if you believe it's a cold, cruel world, people can be doing kind things right in front of your eyes and you either won't see them or you will attribute, you know, other reasoning behind it, right? They have, they need something from me, we have an agenda. So you are going to see the world through those filters. If you notice what's going on in your body, your body does not have those filters. So it's magical how your body gives you the truth of the moment. And that's why the angels are encouraging us more and more to notice. Like when I get those goosebumps, that's the angel saying yes, we have all these sayings in our language, right? That made the hair, he made the hair on the back of my next standup.

14:49 I feel like she just stabbed me in the back. That took the wind out of my sales. Like, these are the sayings that are your divide guys. This is what's coming in before your mind kicks in. Right. Right. Well, you know, sorry, you know me. And as much as I think this is very fascinating, I want to know about the angels. When when did you start communicating with them? Who are they? How many I'm like, I'm an angel person. Well, we'll come back to that if you want to answer a carriage question. I've got so many more questions to go beyond down this, down this rabbit hole. We're going to talk about angels. I get it. We're just as if nothing else. Oh, the angel. But like, people are like, what do you mean you're talking to the angels? Yeah. Which angels are you talking to?

15:33 And how do you know? Yes. So I was a pretty normal person. Right. I worked on car magazines, which is pretty far from the angel realm. Yeah. I can imagine. For I'm racing some NASCAR racing. I've wrote how two articles for almost every automotive enthusiast magazine out there. Like how to rebuild your first engine. How does it walk from drum brakes to disc brakes? Right. But your power, your superpowers actually launching magazines from nothing. Right. So you have created stuff from almost nothing, but almost all of it in this very physical, 3D, dimensional space of the automotive world. So mostly in the automotive world, about 20 years in the automotive world. And then I moved up to the Napa Valley because I love food and wine. I joke that food and wine on my sports. And so I started writing about restaurants and wineries for the local paper in Yantil. And then I started writing for other magazines about food and wine. And eventually I started launching Chef Recipe magazines for the new stand. So come food and holiday baking.

16:35 And all of these, so the thing that all of it has in common is it's very practical how to simplified advice or guidance. Right. So how do we build your first engine is pages and pages of automotive manual to still down to a six or eight page article in a magazine with photographs telling you what to do. Recipes are a very complicated process that a chef went to culinary school to learn how to do to still down into eight maybe steps that you do in your kitchen. So we did focus on easy recipes. We're not talking about the things that took three days to do. Right. And then after that I created a magazine called Law of Attraction that was really a broader personal transformation magazine. And again, simple practices and processes that you can apply in regular life. So the angels were taking me on this divinely guided journey of getting good at making things simple because the angels love to make things simple. Humans like to make things complicated. Angels make things simple. So I started hearing the angels. I think I was still a spokesperson for the automotive aftermarket. So I'm still talking to people about why they'd want to make their cars, you know, more comfortable, more convenient, more fun, more attractive. And here I am like starting to get messages that I have to deliver or they will not be quiet. The angels were just quite insistent. And again, it was part of the training. It was like on the job training.

17:59 First, it was telling somebody not to say I can't afford that. They were like, please tell me never to use those words again. They just wanted her to recognize that she was at choice. Right. This is not how I'm choosing to spend my money is a very different kind of self-talk than I can't afford that. I can't afford that. I want that but I can't afford that. So they were starting to deliver messages like that. They were starting to bring me questions to ask people. I didn't necessarily say it was the angels at first. I wasn't sure if it was the divine or my higher self or, you know, some annoying entity, but it felt like love. It felt gentle in spite of its insistence.

18:41 It felt very loving. It felt very soothing. And then, you know, they began to train me how to coach people. I would sit. When I first moved to the Napa Valley, I'd sit at the bar in a restaurant, and I'd order an appetizer in a glass of wine and talk to whoever was sitting next to me. And they would be going through some sort of major life decision. Like do I say in this job or change careers? Do I stay in my marriage or leave my marriage? So you were like a bar side counselor. Yes. That makes perfect sense. You know, every time you see someone, everyone at the bar is like, "Slumped over her because it all..." Everyone's sitting at the bar is like working on something. They're struggling with something. And here, along comes an angel coach and fixes all the problems.

19:25 I need to go to the bar more often. That's the moral of my story. That's how you got from 18 years. That's right. I have adult ice cream floats. They can put out all of them. I like that thought. A whole different type of... A whole different type of root beer float. So then you brought up a good point about what angels are they? Are we talking metatron? Are we talking just like guardian angels? Well, I'm glad you asked that. They're not the angels everybody knows the name of. I can guarantee you that. So the angels that I work with are actually soul family. I've worked with them for millennia. Maybe they're saying millions of years actually.

20:09 And they are not typically. They have not in the past been very present on earth. They haven't been as many of them. They've been focused on higher consciousness civilizations. And now they're here, and I'm here, to help humanity rise up into a higher level of consciousness. So it's time humanity is ready. There have been all these light workers on the planet, always, but there's been a lot of work done. And so we're here to help people live in the energy of divine unconditional love. And that means tuning into our guidance, living from our guidance, and being love divine and conditional love for ourselves first, which is opposite of so much of the programming that especially light workers, but everybody has received. It's better to give them receive. You've got to take care of everybody else. And if you have any time left over, you could do 20 minutes of self-care.

21:01 You can take a bath or you could just build up resentment and disappointment that nobody's attending to your needs and you're attending to everyone else's all the time. Yeah, I won't go there. So it sounds like it could because we've had people in the show before to talk about something similar, but basically saying like it's your own inner guidance or your instinct or your intuition. How is this different from that or is it the same thing? It's the same thing. Okay. So it doesn't really matter what you call it. And it doesn't matter if you call it angels, right? It doesn't matter if you call it your higher self or the divine or the universe or nature or your gut. The angels don't need credit, right? They're like, they're like, we love you and we want you to listen and whatever works for you is fine. So we don't need to know their names, we don't need to delegate to specific angels. We can just say angels. Thank you for taking care of whatever for me. And they will. And does it feel like your own thought, like you're having a thought or do you because every once in a while, like it's only happened not every once in a a couple times in my life, but like I've heard something in my head. Like I think that wasn't my thought. Is it like that or is it just like a thought that you have that you know it's it's them?

22:15 So that's such a great question. Oftentimes, so we each receive differently. So some of us will hear, some of us will see, like we'll get the angels want to say they'll often bring us sort of symbols, right? So if you're sitting in a meeting with a salesperson and you immediately get this flash of somebody who ripped you off three years ago, like that is a symbol that is your divine guidance saying no, thank you to the person who's trying to sell you something. Right. It's on you run, run, run, run. Walk. Don't run. No, run, no, walk. One of that. So your guidance is coming through in a language that you'll understand. So my guidance is going to be different from your guidance. I may, you know, love chocolate and you are allergic to chocolate. So if something smells like chocolate to me, that's a yes, but if it smells like chocolate to you, it could be a run the other way. So there's a whole there's a whole process to figure out what your signs are then. Well, there could be if that excites you by all means, right? If you want to get a book on what different angel numbers mean and that feels exciting, yes, but you don't have to. Just notice how it feels. If it feels it might be a mere yucky, it might be lighter heavy, right? Some things feel like, oh, the weight of the world just landed on my shoulders. And some things feel like, ooh, that's just lightened the load and the room got brighter. So does it feel we can just call it better or worse? Does it feel lighter or heavier?

23:44 Then that is a yes or a no for you. And they want to say a no is not that is bad wrong evil needs to be eradicated from the planet, right? Just because I don't like coffee doesn't mean that I need to get rid of coffee on the planet. And oftentimes our nose are not now because again, the angels are dividing us to guiding us to do things in divine perfect timing. So sometimes things have to slot into place. You know, that person who is your ideal partner is breaking up from a relationship right now and needs a few weeks to sort of come back to themselves and recover before you meet them. So they're going to line all those things up in divine perfect timing. So no to go to that place or to reach out to that person isn't not ever. It's just not now. So there is a I have been obviously the angels been telling me for quite a while now something because I it feels very heavy feels very and I just keep yeah, yeah, but it's not the right time. Yeah, yeah, it's not the right time.

24:48 Could I mean I'm trying to say this without actually coming out and seeing it because I don't know people listen to the show, but is there is there are they eventually going to say, just forget it. You go do what you want to do. You know, you have been talking to your messages for a long time and you're not listening to me. So I'm done. Yes and no. So they love us so much. They're always bringing us messages. They will keep bringing us the messages forever and they're not like I said that to you 4,000 times and you didn't listen. So screw it. I'm not going to speak to anyone. Humans do that. Angels don't do that. However, they will keep turning up the volume on it. Right. So first you get this little niggle of doubt about something and then you start to see things and you're like, oh, that didn't feel good. And then, but you're still making yourself maybe go to the job that you hate because you need the paycheck or the health insurance or whatever story you're telling yourself right now. Not trusting that the angels are going to bring you something better.

25:42 Eventually they will get out the cosmic 2 by 4. Oh no. I've had that. I've experienced that before. I don't want that again. So how many times have we heard someone say, and this is the thing, how many times have we heard getting laid off from that job turned out to be the best thing that ever happened to me or getting out of that marriage that completely blindsided me when the person said they wanted out, but getting out of that marriage turned out to be the best thing that ever happened to me. So it's all happening for us on some level. Yeah, there are things that happen that are extremely uncomfortable and unpleasant and we don't want to deny or spiritually bypass any of that. There are parts of us that have been traumatized. There are parts of us that have been wounded and the angels want to help ensue, then comfort and heal those parts as well.

26:28 So if you're trying to make one of these decisions like quitting your job and you say that the one kind of feels yummy, if they both feel bad because there's a, I hate the job, but oh my god, I won't be able to pay rent and have health insurance. Like both of those are bad. How do you know which way do I know? So this is such a great question because people are at these choice points all the time. Yeah, all the time. Some big, some small, but all the time. And usually one of the problems is that we are limiting the possibilities to I stay in this job or I quit this job with nothing else and those are the only possibilities in the entire universe and there couldn't possibly be anything else. So the angels are encouraging us to ask what else is possible. And as a question that we don't get an instantaneous answer to, but rather that we live in the question. And so if you can't figure out what to ask, do I stay in this job that I hate or do I jump off a cliff and hope that I have a parachute when I'm in the middle of falling, do I do I do that thing that scares the heck out of me? What else is possible? Angels, show me, show me other possibilities, bring me other ideas. And they will. So the other ideas may feel small, insignificant, unrelated, even kind of annoyingly inefficient. Right. So sometimes the other idea is, or the guidance is

28:06 go to the bathroom at the other end of the building. And you're getting that guidance maybe because the bathroom by use broken, it's going to overflow and they don't want it on your shoes. But maybe because when you're walking to the other end of the building, you're going to cross paths with Bob. And Bob is looking for somebody just like you to join his team doing something you would love to do. So, or he has the answer to the question you were just wondering about, right? So sometimes our guidance seems incredibly trivial, even dumb. But it's the angels trying to put us in the right place at the right time to receive the answer to that really big question we were holding. Right. It reminds me of a real last-on-entering. I forgot who it was, which makes me sad because I want to give her credit.

28:51 But it was great. She was talking to the angels actually. I think it was the universe. Give me a sign. Give me a sign. And then it switches cameras to the other side where the universe is actually like talking to her and saying, you mean other than the 11 other signs I gave you this week? So you're like, no, I mean, and you give me an obvious sign. Oh, you mean more obvious than like all the 15 angel numbers or the the book falling off the shelf or the, I mean, all these things. But she's obviously missing them or choosing to ignore them. And coming full circle to the beginning of the conversation, it's so easy for us to disregard them. So how can we, I know you talked about feeling in our bodies, but are there, I'm speaking for a friend, right? Not me at all.

29:46 How can we be more conscious of all these signs or messages that we're constantly receiving from the angels or from wherever they come from? So the angels love for us to make lists if we're those kind of people, right? Make an evidence log, make a journal, put it on a sticking out and sticking on the refrigerator. It doesn't matter how you do it. Tell a friend, you know, every evening, how to text check in with somebody like, well, what cool thing happened today? Whatever it is, they just want us to practice, right? They're very gentle about it. They want us to practice. So start with little stuff. Don't necessarily start with the biggest life decision you have right now. Like, right, what am I going to eat in the restaurant? What restaurant am I going to go to? What am I going to wear today? Just start to notice. So we begin to practice. And then when we override it, also notice, right? Maybe write that down. So they want me to share a story because when they were first training me to listen to my guidance and live from my guidance, I did what I probably did for 20 years, 30 years at this point in my life. They said, go out the parking lot at the other end.

30:55 Like, I had gone to lunch. I was in a big shopping center parking lot. There were speed bumps and crosswalks. And I was like, why would I drive over the speed bumps and through the crosswalks? And there are all these people when I could just go out, but I sit right here. I'm literally like 20 feet from the exit. And they really go up the other exit. They went, oh, no. And I went out the exit right next to me. And the stoplight was broken. Right. So I was waiting for a left turn arrow. And it kept going green for everybody else. But the light went by and I'm still waiting for an arrow. And I'm like, oh, you were trying to tell me the light was broken. Okay. My mom was then. Could they have just said, hey, the light's broken. Don't go that way. Exactly. But they want me to have this story to share with you. And it was so memorable, right? Because it was just so incredibly obvious. And they want to go back to the obvious thing. So one of my favorite tools for the angels is asking them to turn up the obvious knob because sometimes our guidance is kind of subtle, right? So they can make it really, really obvious years ago when I was single, I was having trouble figuring out who to date and who not to date. So I turned around one night. I was in this. I was actually at a trade show. So I'm in the bar after the trade show talking to my friends. And I turned around in the whole room was black and white. And one guy was color. I would like, I'll talk to that guy. Thank you. That was obvious enough. Wow.

32:16 Well, so then can we request that type of obviousness from the angels? I can't really. Okay. I'm asking them to turn up the obvious knob. Just crank it up to 11. So you think, I mean, they've been with me for a long time. They would you would think they would know me by now that they would say this guy needs an abot to 52, you know? Well, maybe they need to know that you're willing to pay attention. I'm paying attention. Well, that's the thing. I need you to show me like make it super obvious so that I have no choice but to pay attention without hitting me with a 2x4. Yes. Well, you know, the 2x4 is making it super obvious. Yeah, no, but let's be gentle about it though, you know. Make it obvious, be gentle. Okay. So here's the thing. You got hit by the 2x4 and what changed?

32:59 Anyway, Sue, what's your answer to this question? You need a bus. Or maybe I can be specific, can you say, but just please don't make it hurt. So they are bringing your signs. They are obvious. They actually share a really simple process to just become more present. So really, the only... it's very simple. When we believe we're not getting signs, we can't see the signs. So when we believe that we don't know the answer, when we believe that the car keys are lost, right? It's hard for the angels to show us because we're on a free will planet. So they're not going to intervene. They will intervene if it's a crisis, right? They will reach out and make sure that you don't get run over by the bus. But in those everyday moments, if we just say, "Thank you, angels, for showing me where my car keys are," then they can knock them off the table so they're in the middle of the floor and you can't miss them. So we can "a" delegate to the angels, which makes us feel better. Instead of the way most people pray or ask or beg for help, the angels love when we say, "Thank you, angels, for taking care of and you fill in the way." So in advance? So it's not exactly in advance, although you can hold it that way and that's fine. What it does is remind us that they're there and that they are on it and that they are helping us. So it helps us feel a little bit of relief. And you say what you said,

34:30 "Thank you for taking care of this excruciating pain in my back is probably not going to give you a moment of relief." But thank you, angels, for taking care of my body. Might feel a little lighter when I'm really in the middle of it. And I just say, "Thank you for taking care of everything," because I know that's true and I feel a little lighter. But the question was, so you do that before the action takes place in anticipation of the action, like inviting them to take action. Instead of saying, "Please, please, please, bring me a sign. Thank you, angels, for bringing me signs." Because I'm acknowledging that they're bringing me signs and I feel a little lighter when I say that. Okay. Much lighter than when I'm saying, "Please, bring me a sign and I can't see the signs." Then I just get myself all knotted up. Oh, gosh. So it's all about your mindset as you move it forward. You become more open to things, right? When I'm doing that beggy, pleady thing, right, that I'm coming from lack, I feel myself shrinking. Like you can see me. I'm curving in myself. I'm going more into a fetal position. That's contracting. That's heavier, which is your guidance saying, "No." And when I'm saying, "Thank you, angels, for taking care of that, I'm literally expanding my heart is opening. I'm feeling lighter." So if you don't feel relief, just play with the words until you do feel lighter. And then you know you're moving toward everything you desire. So you said something that kind of triggered a question for me. You say, "The angels will come in and they'll grab you so you don't step in front of the bus." But people step in front of buses. Like, they just not communicate like, "What's the difference?" I'm glad you asked

36:04 that question. That's a very complicated one. And see if we make it simple. So A, free will planet. They're not an intervene without being asked for help most of the time. But also, they want to come from a slightly different spot. They want to say, "We've all gone to get healing of various flavors and sometimes it works and sometimes it doesn't." And that's because sometimes our intention is to experience a certain thing. So we've come into this lifetime intending to experience perhaps what it's like to be blind in this body. So no matter what I do, like I can't stop myself from becoming blind because that was part of my soul's intention.

36:47 But other times, we're going to meet an amazing healer. And that's going to be the love of our lives, for example. So we went to 27 other healers and it didn't work. But then we finally saw this one and we felt that little pop of hope and energy. And so we go and we're like, "It's you." Like, you just have you ever had that instant like react to somebody like, "Oh, it's you. I've been waiting my whole life to see you. Here you are." As a matter of fact, we have. So sometimes they use these problems, right? She'll bring us the right person. I was talking to somebody recently who is very active in helping people overcome addiction. And he also does handyman work. So sometimes he'll be in somebody's kitchen like fixing their sink. And the mom will make a comment about how her daughter is dealing with alcohol addiction. And I'll be like, "Oh, well, I have these resources available.

37:41 This is what I did when I was having that problem." So the angels will put him in the right place to be an earth angel. And they do that with all of us too. - All right. It reminds me of the book, The Way of the Peaceful Warrior, where the guy was a mechanic. - Yeah. - Yeah. So that's, I mean, if you haven't read that book, I recommend it. Dan Willman, to great book. So when doing some research on you, I saw that you drew, you draw a very strong distinction between what you call "antrubble" and "unantrubble" questions. I want to spend some time on this because you use an example of asking, is he the one after first date? And you see that's "unantrubble." Why is that "unantrubble"? - You don't have very much information on somebody after our first date, even with internet dating and Googling them, right?

38:29 And often that's not even the question that you need to answer. We tend to try and figure out big picture things with very little information. We want to know the whole trajectory of life now. So we're asking that question, is this the right career for me? Is this the right college major? Is this person the one? Like we're trying to do the rest of my life questions from this moment. And we're on a journey of evolving and becoming. So it may not be the right thing for you right this moment that it might be next week, it might be next year. So it's an unanswerable question because there's a faulty premise behind the question. An answerable question is going to be more like one step at a time. Is this the next step? So instead of, is he the one after I've gone in one or two dates with somebody, the answerable question is, do I want to go on another date with this person? And you will know instantly. Like that isn't. And your body will give you a yes or a no like that. Now your mind may be trying to tell you this person is the one because they check all the boxes on paper. They're everything you thought you wanted. But really you were bored out of your mind when you were sitting there with them and you're trying to override that.

39:48 So this is where I get into a little bit of trouble because so I'm here and you say you probably need to take baby steps, right? Questions take baby steps. But let's say going back to that question of the person who's not sure whether they want to quit their job. Maybe the first question that day when they wake up is should I get out of bed at all? So they want to first address should because I should it is a problem by the angels all the time. Dang it. But they really want to help people that because we should on ourselves all the time. Like should is about programming and it's about what other people think. So we can't get a clear read on a should question. If you're trying to find your divine guidance that you're asking for guidance asking a should question makes it almost impossible to get in clearance. So what kind of question is it? Do I want to go to work today?

40:49 Let's take us a further. Do I want to get out of bed today? Right. Do I want to get out of bed today? Okay. The answer is no. I've got a wave of goosebumps. They're like the angels love that question. Okay. And oftentimes we'll be surprised by the answer they want to say. Like we may fake that we would really rather stay in bed. But they're like we may actually feel like going to work that day. We may want to find out what happened. You know, did did Bob's daughter have the baby and was it a boy or girl? Like there may be some what seemingly minor but joyful reason to go there. They also want to say you mentioned baby steps and while we love that there's a sort of judgment built into that phrase that you know baby steps are for babies. If we knew what we were doing we could take the training wheels off the bike and we wouldn't need and they want to say it's not like that at all. It's that again we're on this journey of evolving and becoming. So we receive our guidance usually one maybe two steps at a time. And so we take that step that's it's not a baby step. It's a full size step.

41:58 It may be a leap. It may be a it may be a tiptoe right? Like it depends on the step. But we take that step and then we pause and we feel okay. So now I'm here. Now what? What's the next step? And sometimes it's really visceral again because we take that step and it's incredibly yucky. We go on that date with the guy who checked all the boxes on paper and was really good looking and he was just the most full of himself person I've ever met in my entire life and I cannot wait for this date to be over. So I'm gonna run in the other direction right? I'm gonna use myself early. I look at that. I just got a text from the baby sitter. Gotta go. Right. So we take the step and then we feel where we are and it wasn't a wrong step. They really want to say that. But going on that date with that person brought us so much clarity that just because somebody looked right on paper or was what my mom told me I should want or my culture said was perfect. That's not what's right for me. That's super important information. Thank you, Angels. Thank you for showing me that. That's not the direction I want to move in. Okay. What else is possible? And then you know somebody shows up and I see that person's picture on on social media or I see that person in the parking lot and I'm like oh, oh.

43:14 I go say hi. Yeah. So there is an element of really not prejudging what the answer is going to be. Right. So if you're going to the question of should I not should sorry do I want to get out of bed? I don't want to shoot on myself again. I love that so much. Do I want to get out of bed? My my thought is no I really don't want to get to bed. Do I do I do I want to get out of bed? And you just saying yes you do and I'm going no no I don't know I do. So you have to have a certain element of don't assume you know what the answer is right be open to the actual answer. Right. But sometimes that's hard to do right. So so that yeah that would be one of those like discernment you know they feel yummy to stay in bed all the time.

43:59 Nice. Maybe it doesn't maybe it doesn't it right. So it feels really yummy to stay in bed when we're exhausted. Right physically mentally emotionally spiritually. And in those situations staying in bed is the most self loving thing we can do. So we may not be staying in bed out of avoidance. We may be staying in bed out of self love and self care. Right. Right. And yeah. So when we're not feeling completely drained and depleted and demoralized it's really easier to make those decisions like do I stay in this job. Right. Because it becomes less about just trying to make it through the day. And more about oh you know I love doing this aspect to the job but that aspect not so much and then maybe we'll feel inspired to talk to somebody else on the team and share tasks or trade tasks or go to the boss and ask about you know splitting up the rules and responsibilities differently like there are infinite possibilities of what could unfold that could make a job that doesn't feel yummy now feel much yummy or next week. Right. All right. So you in the beginning of the interview on the T's I talked about the fact that you had a shortcut question and I know you touched on it a little bit but I want to make sure that the people so some people might have missed it. So I want to go back to it and really focus on it right. You there's a shortcut question that works in any situation for anyone whether they've done this this type of stuff before or not. What is that question now to

45:33 ask this question? Yes. Because we want to keep people want to keep people listening right. We want to keep them on the show right. So there's one question when asking for guidance that always works. I have yet to encounter a situation where it doesn't and if you find one let me know I would love to know. Okay. I'm taking it as a mission now you know. Yes. All right. Yeah. That means that we love that so much because it means you'll keep asking this question all day every day until you find one where it doesn't work. Yeah. You know. Your challenge everybody listening is to use this question until you find when it doesn't work. Angels is there something for me to do or say right now? Super simple right. I'm sitting with a friend who's very upset. Angels is there something for me to do or say right now? I see something problematic at work. Angels is there something for me to do or say right now? Usually we're trying to figure that out or we're shooting on ourselves right. I need to fix, say rescue that person. I love that person. I must dive in and help. They want to say 85% of the time the answer to that question is no. There's not something for you to do or say right now. You were seeing what you needed to see or you were there so that you would have the backstory.

46:50 You would have the context for what's going to happen later or it's very possible that you're not the right tool for the job. Coming from automotive, I love talking about tools for jobs. It's very possible that you need to know that that person is having that problem but you are not the one that they're going to respond to to help with it. The angels are bringing the divinely perfect person or they're going to inspire you to send the divinely perfect person. I know that person who's struggling with that thing at work doesn't really like me. We just kind of rub each other wrong but I know that they love Jody. I'm going to ask Jody if she could just check in with them and Jody knows how to do what it is that they're having trouble with. So what happens after you ask that question?

47:30 What should people look for? That type of answer. So you're going to feel a yes or a no? You're going to feel a yummier. A yummier, a yucky, a yummier. Or you may just get that message instantly. You may see a picture of a memory. You may see a little short movie of the memory. You may simply hear the word. We'll be your guidance. So for example, if you told somebody a story one time and it totally shifted their perspective and you are being shown that moment, that is your guidance saying, share that story. I don't know if this is pertinent but a while ago I had this thing happen.

48:11 Gotcha. Or you might turn around and see a big sign that says, "Do not enter." Exactly. Or a whole truckload of them. That's right exactly. Have you ever had in these bar situations, maybe you're asking is there something I should say to this person where they just didn't respond well? So the angels want to warn us that occasionally we are going to touch a sore spot. I don't think there's anybody on this planet who hasn't had some sort of wounding or trauma in their life. Occasionally we say things even really well-meaning things, even what we think is a compliment. People have a reaction that's a trauma response to it.

49:01 That's shocking. Some people can't bear to be touched, which may not be trauma. It may be the way their systems are wider. So yes, we've had yucky reactions from people. That's not necessarily a wrongness either. In fact, usually it's not if the angels have guided you to say something. The thing that arises then is being left for ourselves. I said this thing that the angels told me to say to this person, they didn't like hearing it. They, you know, last shout at me or huffed off, you know, and stomped off and slammed the door. Now I'd be left for myself. Right now I soothe myself.

49:45 I comfort myself. I reach out to somebody for help. And maybe that was something they needed to hear so that they could think about it and figure it out as they hub out the door. Exactly. So oftentimes the angels will use us to deliver messages for one another. And sometimes people want to shake the messenger. Yeah. That's true. Sometimes people need to hear things in a way that you may not normally deliver them either. So every now and then I'll say something that sounds really snarky. And I'm like, why did that come out of my mouth? That was the only way for a person was going to connect with it. Right. Great. So it's not me, Karen. It's the angels going through me. I think this is an important part of the conversation because some people will listen to this and think, oh, okay, and they're going to say all these things and it's going to just have this wonderful response.

50:28 They'll need to understand that, you know, it can have a wonderful response, but it might not. And but there's also going to be a reason for that not wonderful response. So don't, you know, don't shut down those stops, you know, but just kind of tread lightly. Just be just be ready. Like, be ready. Yeah. Where bubble wrap? Be gentle with yourself and notice what's going on, right? So, so you say something. Maybe it's to your significant other or your child, like somebody really close to you and they're like, oh, that was very unintended. What happened there? And it's more guidance. So sometimes that guidance is is very like this relationship is no longer supportive for you. Yeah. Right. So sometimes you say something with great love and the other person freaks out. That's a clue that there's a disconnect there. Right. So the angels are managing things through resonance. And sometimes they're showing us where there's dissonance. Okay. I'm looking at the clock and I'm trying to be very conscious of your time.

51:31 I definitely want to dive into your book a little bit because that it was fascinating. Right. Your book is called My Angel Coach. Receive your divine guidance and feel the angels love 63 messages to support and uplift you. Some title, some title. It is great to title. So the book has 63 chapters. What's cool about it is that each starts with an angel attunement. Right. You described them as effortlessly dissolving subconscious programming. What's actually happening when someone sits in front of those attunements? Ooh. So I'll do a little show and tell. Ah. And so funny. The one they picked was one step at a time. So you can use the book for divination, by the way. You can just say angels, what do you want me to know and open the book? So the angels have, we were very particular, especially them, about the words in the pictures. And so they've dissolved their two things. They want to say, there are no pictures of angels in this book. All the pictures are things from everyday life.

52:34 Right. Like that was a little lantern lighting the way. Some of them are road signs. There, there is picture of a butterfly. Right. So things to remind you as you move through life of the angels messages. Right. And these angel attunements have been energetically infused to dissolve whatever subconscious programming or limiting beliefs or gunk is in the way of that particular chapter's message. So that need to know the entire journey before I start out might be some of the gunk that gets dissolved by the one step at a time. That's so cool. That's very cool. Yeah. So unlike most self-help books where you have to do all the work yourself, in this one, the angels do a lot of the work for you. Oh, I love that. That is so cool. Yeah. So it's like an imprint on you before you move forward. So it's like it puts like this shield on you before you go into uncharted territory or something like that. That's kind of cool. Yeah. A lot. Yeah. We don't really think of it as shield, but the angels are absolutely with you and they're monitoring your space and they're making your field bigger and smaller and they're taking care of all that stuff. Gotcha. So they're like priming you for the information. It's kind of cool. Right. Yeah. Now you're also building the divine abundance audio series and it's specifically about money, worthiness, and receiving. Right.

53:56 Why is money the last frontier for so many spiritually developed people? Oh, that is such a cool question. Yeah. So money has a lot of gunk built into the system. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. So for example, somewhere along the line, somebody decided that professional baseball players make a lot more money than kindergarten teachers. Right. So there are those things. There's that value judgments. We even have a very appropriate term for it built into the system. We also have in almost every country on this planet a debt-based financial system. So for every dollar that goes out like a dollar and an interest rate, a dollar and ten cents needs to go back.

54:40 So that feels uncomfortable. There's a lot of programming around abundance that keeps people from feeling capable and secure because you probably wouldn't keep going to a job that you hate where you feel demoralized every day if you felt abundant and lovingly supported by a benevolent universe. Okay. Yeah. Okay. You almost lost me, but you got me up again. So so money feels wobbly and wonky for a lot of reasons. You know, you were born into a family that probably was not ascended masters. So they may have said things like money doesn't grow on trees or what do you think I'm an ATM?

55:23 Yeah. Or you know, yeah, buddy. And you may have had some experiences where you invested in something and it didn't go well. So you lost money. So you may think I'm not good with money. Like all these things. A lot of light workers, especially healers, coaches also want to help everybody and they come from an old service paradigm that was about martyrdom really, self-sacrifice and suffering. You just got to serve everybody and until you shrivel up. And so we're being asked not to show up that way anymore, which is partly why we keep mentioning being loved for yourself first and noticing how you're feeling and taking care of yourself. And the angels really want us to know that we live in a abundant universe. I remember being a little girl and thinking like birds don't need money, cats don't need money. How come people need money? And we don't. We do right now. We probably won forever. And interestingly, we watched a video last night about a woman who's given up using money and she's doing, you know, she's growing food, she's living harmoniously in suburbia. She hasn't moved off to a hill somewhere. So there are ways to step out of the system and eventually the system will, in fact, it's in the process of evolving. We're seeing things sort of falling apart right now. But there are new systems being built and have been built and new ways of doing things. So but money is

56:55 a last frontier for many of us because of all this programming that's been put into the system. Right. There are a lot of people who want to make money off of you. Corporations, you know, there's a reason that you are told that you need a stockbrook or a financial advisor. You can't figure out how to do these things by yourself. They've been made hard to figure out. Yeah. Very true. Very hard to figure out. Sadly, we are out of time. So I want to make sure that we let people know someone wants to get hold of your book. I know that you're not doing one-on-one coaching anymore. But you do have these audio files, which would be a great substitute for that. So if someone wants to get access to these things, where can they go? What can they do? Come to myangelcoach.com.

57:40 You can get the book, which is very much like me in book form. Now that you've heard me, you'll be reading the book and you'll be like, "Oh, yeah, she said that story." Oh, yeah. And we're about to start a membership group, a community. So we decided to give people the money and abundance of audios when they join the community. Oh, yeah. $19 a month. Join any time, quit any time. Just come get the audios if that's all you want for $29. And we'll be doing, we'll meet once a month and you can bring your questions for the angels. We'll meet on Zoom and we'll have a discussion space. We're all post like the latest angel wisdom and you can ask questions. Oh, that sounds like so much fun. So we're going to add a direct link to that in our show notes. So if you didn't have a pin in the ticket appointment time, all you need to do is go to skepticmanifosition.com.

58:26 Go to suzepisode page. You'll see the link directly there. They didn't. There's so it's easy for you to access this membership, the book and all this kinds of stuff. So this has been wonderful. You're wonderful. It's been such a wonderful conversation. Thanks so much for being on the show. Oh, thank you for asking such great questions and being so real. The angels love playing with us. Well, we are we're pretty partial to the angels too. So we thank them for coming along. Now you have been getting guidance your whole life listener. The only question is whether you've actually been listening. So maybe after this conversation, today's a day that you start. Thanks for joining us. We'll see you on the next episode of the skepticmanifositions.

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