When Doctors Can’t Help: How to Heal with Intuition Instead
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What if your body is trying to tell you exactly how to heal...physically, emotionally, and spiritually?
In this deeply enlightening episode of The Skeptic Metaphysicians, Karen and Will sit down with internationally recognized Medical and Emotional Intuitive Katie Beecher, MS, LPC, whose unique approach to intuitive health readings has been featured in Goop, Poosh, Miranda Kerr’s KORA Organics, and over 200 other major outlets.
 
Katie shares how she creates a four-page soul-level report and symbolic painting, using nothing but your name and age, and reveals the process that helped her personally heal from bulimia, depression, Lyme disease, and mold toxicity. From developing your own intuitive voice to decoding the messages behind your symptoms, this conversation is a masterclass in root-cause healing, self-trust, and soul-level transformation.
 
Whether you’re struggling with chronic illness, emotional overwhelm, or simply want to reconnect with your body’s inner wisdom, this episode will leave you feeling seen, empowered, and intuitively activated. 

In This Episode, You’ll Discover:

  • How Katie receives accurate intuitive health information with just a name and age
  • The real reason your symptoms exist, and what they’re trying to tell you
  • Why everyone has intuitive abilities (and how to activate yours today)
  • The intersection of clinical therapy and spiritual mediumship
  • How to overcome chronic illness using the mind-body-spirit connection
  • Katie’s personal journey healing from an eating disorder and Lyme disease
  • The role of soul paintings in spiritual diagnosis and healing
  • Ways neurodivergence and heightened sensitivity connect to psychic gifts
Memorable Quotes:
“You don’t need to be a psychic to be intuitive. You are intuitive. You just have to remember how to listen.” – Katie Beecher
 
“Your symptoms are not punishments. They are messages from your body and your soul, begging you to listen.” – Katie Beecher
 
“We are all meant to be our own healers. My job is just to help you remember how.” – Katie Beecher 

About Katie Beecher:
Katie Beecher, MS, LPC, is a licensed professional counselor and medical and emotional intuitive with over 35 years of experience. She’s been featured in Goop, Poosh, Miranda Kerr’s blog, Coast to Coast AM, and more. Her internationally best-selling book Heal from Within: A Guidebook to Intuitive Wellness teaches readers how to become their own medical intuitive using her revolutionary method. Her intuitive readings include a comprehensive four-page report and symbolic watercolor painting, created before ever meeting the client. 

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Karen, Yes, question for you.

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I have an answer for you.

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Are you sure?

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No?

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Okay, Well let's see what do a licensed therapist, a

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psychic medium, and an abstract painter.

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Having common Are they walking into a bar?

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Well, you know what after meeting her? Maybe so, but

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I don't know.

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Okay, a psychic medium, an abstract painter, and a licensed

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therapist licensed therapist, I have no idea.

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Well, it was a trick question because actually they are

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all Katie Beacher and this is the person that's actually

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this woman creates soul level medical readings without ever seeing you.

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Just your name, your age, that's it. And you know what,

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she gives you a four page physical, emotional, and spiritual

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health report plus a symbiotic watercolor portrait of your soul.

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Wow, I know right, that's so cool.

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Now she's been featured in Goop, in Push, and even

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on Coast to Coast AM with George Norri. But today

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she is joining us, so she's made the big time. Finally,

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if you ever wondered what your symptoms might be trying

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to tell you, or how to heal from the inside out,

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you're gonna want to stick around for this one because Katie,

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she's not just an intuitive. She is verified. Let's go.

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My name is Will, and unlike Boulder and Scully, want

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to believe. So we've embarked in a journey of discovery.

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We've talked to people deeply entrenched in the spiritual and

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metaphysical world.

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We've thrown ourselves into weird and wonderful experiences. I even

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joined a coven.

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Of witches and wait, you joined a coven yep.

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All on the interest of finding something, anything, that will

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prove that there's something beyond this physical.

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Three dimensional world we all live in.

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This is the Skeptic Metaphysicians.

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Hey there, I'm Will, and we are welcoming you back

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to another power packed episode of the Skeptic Metaposians. Today's

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guest is someone who bridges the gap between science and

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spirit in a truly extraordinary way.

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See.

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Katie Beecher is a licensed professional counselor and an internationally

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recognized medical and emotional intuitive with over thirty five years

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of experience. She's been featured on Goop, on Push, On,

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Miranda Kerr's Cora Organics, Coast to Coast AM, and more

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than two hundred other media outlets.

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See.

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Her unique method involves creating a detailed four page intuitive

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report and a symbolic soul painting. Before she even meets

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her clients. All she uses is her name and age.

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She's also the author of the best selling book Heal

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from Within, an Intuitive Guide to Wellness, which empowers people

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to connect to their bodies, uncover root causes of illness,

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and tap into their own intuitive healing power. Now having

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personally healed from bulimia, depression, lime disease, and mold toxicity,

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Katie brings not only professional wisdom, but lived experience to

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everything she does. Please welcome the one, the only Katie

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Beecher the show. Katie, Welcome to No How you doing today.

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I'm great, Thank you so much. You guys are awesome.

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I'm glad you think we're awesome. Some people say, oh,

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these guys are crazy.

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But we've got our snows.

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So far, so good. Karen, all right, Katie, I'm excited

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to talk to you. In our research, we found that

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you do things a little differently. We've talked to people

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who do soul paintings before, we've talked to medical intuitives before.

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I don't know that we ever talked to someone that

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does them both at the same time. So this is exciting.

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So first, the soul paintings do they act as a

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tool to help you to diagnose what might be going

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on with someone.

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So they do. The way that I use them is

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I do the report first, and it's very detailed and

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all this stuff that you said, and then I create

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the painting afterwards, and it both verifies the information in

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my report and gives me different kinds of information about

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the person. And delivering something symbolically to someone is a

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little bit softer, if you will. So if you're reading

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a report and you see the words, you know, sexual

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abuse or a very serious diagnosis. To be clear, I

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cannot legally or ethically diagnose, I really want to be.

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But I do identify symptoms and I do make suggestions

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for what things might be, and then I help connect

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people with practitioners I trust for formal diagnoses and things.

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So that's really important to me that people know that.

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by my guides to put a lot of red in

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certain areas, maybe around the second chakra, which is the

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hip area of reproductive organs, things like that, and so

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if I pick up abuse in that area and I

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put red there. Then people usually know what that means,

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and it might be a miscarriage, it might be you know,

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endometriosis or hysterectomy or something like that. But people usually

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just intuitively are like, oh, I know what that is.

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as you're on your way to the danging room.

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No, no, no, So does each color mean something or

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do you just kind of put things together and then

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read the whole feeling behind it.

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then I usually start at the top of the image

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of a person. So the image can be of a figure.

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it could be a plant, but it's all symbolizing the person.

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then I just kind of go down. Whatever they tell

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me to put gets put there, and the colors matter

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and it's an individual interpretation for each person. But also

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things like you know, the placement of the arms. So

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let's say your arms are totally out like this, it

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could be that you're welcoming new information. It could mean

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that you're vulnerable. Let's say your arms are in front

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of your heart and you could be protecting yourself. Call

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it different colors in the legs, for example, legs represent

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moving forward in life. So let's say there's some agenta

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there and magentas about being your true, authentic self. So

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they're being told that the way to move forward is

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just by being yourself, you know. So it's it's really individualized.

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It's really fun. Even though the paintings literally look like

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a five year old did them, so, you know, but

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and being a fine artist, I was sort of like,

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what are these things for me? Yet there really is

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you know, I don't know how people would receive them,

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and they really love them and they like to ount

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and frame them, and.

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someone's body because you can write as helps what the

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color is.

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say it's a plant, or it could be a combination

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of a plant and a figure, or some kind of

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insect like a butterfly or something like that.

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definitely make up you know, pedals of a flower or

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leaves or legs and arms and things like that.

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be seeing that if you're watching these on video, you

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might be seeing some examples of these paintings on the video.

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see those paintings in there as well that we're putting

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in there.

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Now, have you had the opportunity to do or maybe

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you have or not, I don't know, like an after picture,

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so you diagnose some and then they kind of work

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on the issues and then paint their soul again.

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it's super fun to look at, you know, what comes

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up in the report again or what their paintings look

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like again, and to see the growth. And people are

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always kind of surprised at, you know, because we don't

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always realize that we're growing or changing or healing because

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we're in it. So to be able to see it

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in the report and especially in the paintings, it's really

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really fun.

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Right well, so the obviously the people once they come

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to you is because they feel they have something going

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on as or you just do it generally and people

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then find that there's something they need to look at

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after they see the painting.

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My clients are pretty varied. Most of them, I have

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to say, have symptoms that they either know what the

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causes and they're not healing and they want help with them,

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or they don't know what the root causes it all,

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and they've been to eight trillion practitioners and you know,

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keep hearing it's in your head, or they get a

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misdiagnosis or something like that.

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So okay.

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But I also have people who just want to know

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more about healing relationships or setting boundaries or healing trauma,

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or career help or you know whatever. And the nice

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thing about the readings is that we cover everything and

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anything in that that one hour.

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That's a great point, right because the very first thought

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is you're talking about health, right, You're talking about you.

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But then you started the conversation with you know, potential

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sexual abuse for example, which is not health thing. It's

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more of a thing.

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Right, Yeah, gues it.

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May it may represent it may end up being in

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that sense, but but it goes way deeper than just

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a physical ailment. But this you can you can help

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people not just with health, but you do it with

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like you said, career, you can do it with relationships.

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You could do it with you know, finding that pot

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of goal at the end of the rainbow or all

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that kind of stuff.

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Right, Yeah, And it's really important to know that if

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you look at root, physical, emotional, and spiritual are all

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really important to consider. And my guides don't see time

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in a linear fashion. So I will get stuff from

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someone's childhood or from ten years ago or in the future,

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or I'll get information from people that they care about

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or maybe they're loved ones in spirit, you know. So

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it's it's kind of I have to discern what's now

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and what's in the past. And the information in the

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past or for someone else usually comes through as just

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a little bit fainter. So if I see a picture,

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let's say, it's just a little fainter, or hear a

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fainter word in my head or something like that. So

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I just put it out there and then we talk

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about it during the reading.

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Gotcha now, you said also in the future, how how

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does that work? Like, how do you get that information in?

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How can you use that to help someone?

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So a lot of people say, you know, am I

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going to get better what can I do to help

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myself things like that, And so I don't give people

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timelines because it's not fair and there's so many variables,

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you know. But I do get feelings about, yes, this

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person is going to get better and that their relationship

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is going tokeed, or maybe I hear that they're better

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off out of the relationship and it's not going to

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work out. Or I get hints about how to help

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them with their business, you know, now and in the future,

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or their goals or dreams or something like that. So

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it's because we all have trouble living in the present

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for a lot of reasons. You know, we're in the

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past or in the future, and that's okay. So to

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be able to help people with all of it is

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Oh yeah, all right, we're burying the lead, right, bulimia,

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lime disease, toxicity, mold toxicity. You healed yourself from all

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that stuff. So the first thing that comes of mine

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is how how how did you do that?

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because I really had help. I'll start with the believe

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mea part. When I was in high school, I had

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I was in bad shape, really bad shape, throwing up

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ready to just be like, I can't live this way anymore.

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It's not okay. And my family was really toxic, and

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so some people have heard this story before, and it's

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in my book. But I came home one day from

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school and called our pediatrician. I hadn't told anybody about

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what I was going through, and my parents were not

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very helpful. So I called and said, you know, I'm

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making myself get sick and I need help. And it

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was nineteen eighty three, so the doctor was kind of like, oh,

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it's okay, it'll be you know, you'll be fine, and

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I'm like, no, dude, I really won't be fine. This

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is this is not okay. And he recommended a Youngian psychologist.

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for me, that was the perfect match because she taught

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me how to connect to my intuition. I already knew

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that I had these weird abilities and I had no

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one to talk to about them, so I could say

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I'm getting these feelings or whatever, and she just totally

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encouraged it.

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to connect to my authentic self and set boundaries and

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not care so much about what people thought and all

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of those things. And with her help and a ton

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of work on my end, you know, I started right.

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I was ready though, you know, And I like to

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tell people that was one of the most important things

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that ever happened to me. And I'm so grateful for

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it because we need pain to change.

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Such a great point, right. We talk all the time

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about how growth happens at the edge of our comfort zones,

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but sometimes we have to go really far or comfort

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of oones to really get the benefits of need to

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get And at the end of the day, people say,

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you don't really need to get there, you can you

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just listen to the universe saying hey, I need to

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do this first, instead of waiting for the moment that

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you've gotten into big trouble with believe me, maybe you

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know that's.

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and your intuition, because what teenager calls the pediatrician on

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their own right, you know, So that's really fantastic that

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you'd listened and took that step.

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It was divine intervention. It really was, because I didn't

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know really why or what was happening. And I think

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the fact that I had gotten into a college that

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was not near my parents was probably motivational to help

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me want to live.

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I'm on my own. I gotta get this team care of.

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I was on my own anyway, I couldn't rely on

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them anyways. So yeah, it was like, Okay, I have

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a motivation now and hope and you know, things like

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that controlling.

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You in ways you didn't want to control.

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right way. So at least perfect sense.

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and mold and all those other things, it was a physical,

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emotional and spiritual journey for sure. I fortunately had an

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amazing naturopath that I worked with who I lived in Connecticut.

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and didn't know it, so and the traditional doctors were

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no help. No one ever brought up all the symptoms

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of a lime disease that I had, and I had

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again the sense to find a naturopath at seventeen, and

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you know, worked with these people. It wasn't chill. I

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was like forty five un till I got to diagnose

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with Lime. But it was through working with her and

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then doing a lot of spiritual work, talking in my symptoms,

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asking the lime like, Okay, I'm going to treat you

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as my friend, why are you here? What do you

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have to tell me? And kind of to your point

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before what I like to tell people is the trick

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is listening to your symptoms and intuition early before they

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need to almost kill you out to be like, oh, okay.

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Let's talk about your book for a second, because it

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kind of goes hand in hand with what you just said.

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Your book, Heal from Within, you talk about symptoms as

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messages from the body, right and you spirit and you

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say that there's a way to get messages from your

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body that will allow you to understand that there are

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some underlying challenges you have to work on. How does

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that work?

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Yeah? One hundred percent. And when I was going through

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therapy and my recovery journey when I was sixteen, my

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guides told me to write the book. They told me

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to pass on what I learned to teach people how

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to connect to theirselves and their intuition and all the things.

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So it took me, you know, several decades to actually

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write it, but that's okay, you.

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Got it out. I got a lot more than most

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people do, so congratulations.

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Lime and said, why are you here? What do you want?

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Why are you scaring me? And it's like, oh, it's

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time to write your proposal? So there you go. So

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there is a great example of a symptom and a

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diagnosis that I listened to and talk to instead of fearing,

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and I you know, had that dialogue with it. I

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talk about how to do the dialogues and all that

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kind of stuff in the book, but it was you know,

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what do you want me to do? Why are you

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in my life right now? And why is this so unpleasant?

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a I am an author, but I'm not really a writer,

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you know. Thank God for edging. So you know, it

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was scary. And these symptoms come about to make you change.

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So work with people all the time who come to

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me for a physical issue. And my guides in the

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report reveal that, oh, there've been a really dysfunctional relationship

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that they've been trying to get out of forever. Or

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you're letting people walk all over you, or you're doing

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too much for others and you need to set boundaries,

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or any other you know, you need to change how

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you eat, or guess what it's time to stop smoking,

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or any you know, any of the things above. So again,

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it's that discomfort that forces us to look at our

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lives and ourselves and make changes. And it can be

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the littlest symptom. So you get a little headache, right,

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and you have to figure out we're all medical intuitives, really,

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So you have a symptom and you start asking yourself,

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what is this about? What caused it? What do I

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need to do? So get a headache or a stomach ache?

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Something I ate? Is it an allergy in? Do I

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need to lay down? Do I need to take something?

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You know? Can I go to this event that I'm

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supposed to go to? Is there a deeper cause? Is this,

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you know, a repetitive event? Things like that. So and

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with our kids too, our kids get sick and we

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have to sort of be medical detectives. So what I

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do is kind of that on steroids, But it doesn't

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mean that we all don't you do it to a

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certain degree.

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So it's really listening to your intuition and your body, right, right.

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But once you feel in your body, then you have

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to ask your body what's going on, and then your

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intuition is what kind of clears the path were understanding? Right? Okay,

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So here's where I run into a problem. Every time

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that I feel something's going on, my intuition says I

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need more alcohol. So for those people, for those people

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who maybe don't trust your intuition all that much, what

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kind of tips can you give.

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Us to let me first add a disclaimer the way

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you said that it doesn't drink every day, not even

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every week, but when you're stressed out, he'll have a

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couple of drinks. It's not like amore, Wow, I mean

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that I know of I'm gonna have to start looking

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in to stand.

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Just don't look at my closet.

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No.

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But but for those a lot of people who are

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listening to the show, and perhaps some of the hosts

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of this show, I have some challenges with trusting their intuition.

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So how can you feel confident that what you're hearing

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in your intuition is actually what you need to do.

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That is such a great question, and it comes up

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during You're very welcome during every session. I do it myself,

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you know, okay, because we're so emotionally involved with ourselves,

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and expectations come in there and self doubt and the

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times when oh I thought I trusted my intuition then

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and didn't work out so well. Right, So I have

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a written technique in my book that literally saved my life.

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It's based on youngin psychology with my own spin and

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doing having a conversation with your intuition and writing. First

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of all, you have to stop what you're doing to

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write right, so you are more in the moment. It's

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like mindfulness meditation. You're more focused and so you're less

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distracted by what am I having for dinner or you know,

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any other thing that's going on. So that helps with

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the focus. And what I advise people is don't overthink

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the information. Even if you're just listening in your head.

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You don't have to figure out whether it's your intuition

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or just a voice in your head or just your feelings.

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Listen to what you hear and then start discerning. So

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is this actually fear? Am I projecting my fears onto

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this information I'm receiving?

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Right?

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And if that's the case, then ask yourself what am

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I afraid of? You know, what is this anxiety about?

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Am I afraid that if I listen to the really

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difficult information I'm hearing, such as I need to get

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out of this relationship with someone, or I need to

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I'm feeling the need to drink more? Right, what does

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that mean? Do I need to go do some relaxation?

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Do I need to do a movement? Is this a

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call to action in terms of do I have an addiction?

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Do I have a problem? So really go deep into

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the information rather than just going on a service level.

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And even if you listen and you make a mistake,

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you've still learned something by that experience. But the number

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one thing I think is people here scary stuff and

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about change, and change is scary, and they don't want

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to do it, and they're afraid and it feels overwhelming

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because it doesn't happen overnight, So everything gets pushed down

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and then you're totally cut off from any intuition. So

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don't overthink it. But don't be afraid to go deeper and.

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Write it down. Right, that's the number one thing you get.

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You just just get pin the paper and write it down.

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I don't forget, right, Yeah.

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And it's an actual dialogue connects you, right, it connects

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you more like kneel down a wash. Yeah, conversations with

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God exactly. The problem with that is that I got

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to put my drink down to right.

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Oh well, I'm going to change the subject very slightly here.

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But you actually don't because you could have the drink

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in one hand and your pen and the other.

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There you go.

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I can't a drinker. So in every we have these

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conversations and we learned these things. And there's something that

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you said a while ago that just like struck me

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in my So I'm listening but also kind of going

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down this other like mental rabbit hole. And so you

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talked about being friends with blind disease. You made it

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your friend, and you had this dialogue, and I'm just

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I just started thinking about, you know, the things that

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that I have certain issues with, and this stuff just

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started kind of coming in and popping into my head.

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And you know, I'm looking at this there's this one

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issue that's kind of plagued me for years and years,

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and I'm like, okay, so if I look at that

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as my friend and instead of thinking, oh I have

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to get rid of this, I have to let it go.

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That's not right, that's not true, and think, Wow, this

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situation has this way that I am has helped protect

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me and keep me safe for all of these years,

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and I need to be grateful for that and think

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it and then let it go.

464
00:24:11.400 --> 00:24:13.519
Right because it's no longer serving you as much.

465
00:24:13.599 --> 00:24:16.599
Yeah, it's done its work and it's been part of

466
00:24:16.599 --> 00:24:18.200
who I am, and I can let it go and

467
00:24:18.240 --> 00:24:19.960
look at it as a friend instead of like, oh God,

468
00:24:19.960 --> 00:24:21.839
I've got to get over this. It's just that one

469
00:24:21.839 --> 00:24:22.200
little thing.

470
00:24:22.240 --> 00:24:24.759
I'm like, yeah, so there's a common denominator and all

471
00:24:24.799 --> 00:24:27.079
this that we're talking about, right it's a changing perspective

472
00:24:27.359 --> 00:24:29.279
right right now. And we've talked about a lot on

473
00:24:29.319 --> 00:24:34.599
the show before. Your perspective really dictates how you react

474
00:24:34.640 --> 00:24:38.079
to or any particular given thing. So that's a really

475
00:24:38.119 --> 00:24:38.799
good first step.

476
00:24:39.000 --> 00:24:42.799
It does. And also, the traditional medical model is fight,

477
00:24:43.279 --> 00:24:47.519
take drugs, mask, you know, be a warrior. And I

478
00:24:47.640 --> 00:24:51.519
get all that, but what if we stopped fighting and

479
00:24:51.559 --> 00:24:55.839
what if we listened? And fighting creates so much health anxiety,

480
00:24:56.279 --> 00:24:58.240
and then people that are afraid to like go get

481
00:24:58.240 --> 00:25:03.039
blood tests or open their results, or get an ultrasound

482
00:25:03.200 --> 00:25:05.680
or because they're so afraid that things are going to

483
00:25:05.759 --> 00:25:08.559
be so bad instead of just gee, I want to

484
00:25:08.559 --> 00:25:10.720
know the answers because then I could do something about that.

485
00:25:10.720 --> 00:25:13.279
That's so true. Whenever I get my test results back

486
00:25:13.279 --> 00:25:15.079
from my doctor, my heart is pounding to me.

487
00:25:15.119 --> 00:25:15.359
Yeah.

488
00:25:16.920 --> 00:25:20.519
So yeah, well I have history with that. That might

489
00:25:20.559 --> 00:25:24.759
be why. But so you I mentioned in the teaser,

490
00:25:25.119 --> 00:25:27.160
I tossed it in and people might have called it,

491
00:25:27.240 --> 00:25:29.720
might not have called it. I mentioned that you are verified,

492
00:25:30.960 --> 00:25:34.480
you have been verified by medical professionals. Tell us about that.

493
00:25:35.319 --> 00:25:39.960
So yeah, I at the very about the beginning. But

494
00:25:40.599 --> 00:25:44.519
about twelve years ago, maybe I don't know what date

495
00:25:44.519 --> 00:25:48.279
it is today, but about twelve years ago I contacted

496
00:25:48.359 --> 00:25:50.920
age a journal. It's a peer review journal, and it

497
00:25:50.960 --> 00:25:54.119
was an MD who had this journal, and I wanted

498
00:25:54.160 --> 00:25:59.039
to do a little study verifying my abilities and my accuracy,

499
00:25:59.799 --> 00:26:03.440
and I wanted to get some of the doctors from

500
00:26:03.440 --> 00:26:06.079
my clients involved. And they gave me permission, of course,

501
00:26:06.680 --> 00:26:11.359
and did a informal survey of about eighty of my

502
00:26:11.480 --> 00:26:15.079
clients and just did like a questionnaire about what was accurate,

503
00:26:15.160 --> 00:26:19.599
what wasn't things like that, and then also contacted these

504
00:26:19.640 --> 00:26:23.599
doctors and had them give or the clients gave permission

505
00:26:23.720 --> 00:26:27.640
for their medical files. And it showed that before I

506
00:26:27.680 --> 00:26:30.799
did the reading with them, they had these diagnoses that

507
00:26:30.880 --> 00:26:35.240
I and symptoms that I correctly identified. So it was

508
00:26:35.279 --> 00:26:38.759
important to me to get that kind of empirical data

509
00:26:38.960 --> 00:26:42.079
and my you know, accuracies like something in the ninety

510
00:26:42.119 --> 00:26:45.160
seven percentile or something that with that.

511
00:26:45.079 --> 00:26:48.319
Yeah, it was pretty cool, I'd say, yeah.

512
00:26:48.119 --> 00:26:51.960
Right, And also just a lot of like when I

513
00:26:52.000 --> 00:26:55.240
do readings for doctors, or when I did the reading

514
00:26:55.279 --> 00:26:57.880
for a group, or a lot of the big media stuff.

515
00:26:57.880 --> 00:27:00.519
You know, they don't put your information up there unless

516
00:27:00.559 --> 00:27:04.440
you're actually good at what you do. So I had

517
00:27:04.519 --> 00:27:06.759
to do readings for them and have them, you know,

518
00:27:06.880 --> 00:27:08.000
verify that information.

519
00:27:08.799 --> 00:27:11.799
How can How did I not think about that? Katie,

520
00:27:11.839 --> 00:27:12.960
you want to come on the show, You've got to

521
00:27:12.960 --> 00:27:14.640
do a reading right.

522
00:27:16.480 --> 00:27:16.920
Next time?

523
00:27:17.359 --> 00:27:22.160
Missed opportunity time? Well that's cool. So you did it

524
00:27:22.200 --> 00:27:24.440
for the media like you did it for Jordan Nour

525
00:27:24.519 --> 00:27:25.480
and all those kinds of people.

526
00:27:25.559 --> 00:27:28.200
Yeah, yeah, yeah, and like the Goop had a group

527
00:27:28.279 --> 00:27:31.480
not not going but the person below her and so.

528
00:27:31.480 --> 00:27:34.000
But that's really important to me because I cannot b

529
00:27:34.200 --> 00:27:36.960
s the readings and the reports they get them before

530
00:27:37.000 --> 00:27:40.160
I talk to them. So again that's it's important to

531
00:27:40.200 --> 00:27:43.599
me to have credibility, you know, that people can trust me.

532
00:27:44.240 --> 00:27:49.880
Yeah, absolutely, yeah, super important. Of course. Now you we've

533
00:27:49.920 --> 00:27:54.720
talked about the fact that this you intuit things in

534
00:27:54.799 --> 00:27:58.319
all kinds of spectrums, right, the health and spirituality and

535
00:27:58.359 --> 00:28:02.839
all that kind of stuff. If cinsitioals really focus on

536
00:28:02.880 --> 00:28:05.720
spiritual weakenings and that kind of stuff, if someone is

537
00:28:05.799 --> 00:28:09.920
wanting to further their spiritual growth, is this something that

538
00:28:09.960 --> 00:28:12.200
you can identify and help with as well?

539
00:28:12.279 --> 00:28:15.759
Oh yes, every session, during every single session, every session,

540
00:28:15.759 --> 00:28:18.319
I teach people how to connect to their intuition, how

541
00:28:18.359 --> 00:28:21.400
to develop whatever gifts they have, how to trust their

542
00:28:21.440 --> 00:28:26.160
intuition because I don't want anyone substituting their intuition for mine.

543
00:28:26.599 --> 00:28:29.319
You know, I will be honest with what my guides

544
00:28:29.359 --> 00:28:31.960
get and everything, but it's always how does this feel

545
00:28:32.000 --> 00:28:34.400
to you? Is this resonating with you? You know? Just don't

546
00:28:34.599 --> 00:28:36.759
just listen to me and nod your head. I don't

547
00:28:36.759 --> 00:28:38.720
want that, And I want to know is there something

548
00:28:38.759 --> 00:28:41.759
in the port that didn't resonate, because maybe it was

549
00:28:41.799 --> 00:28:44.079
for somebody else I was reading at the time, or

550
00:28:44.480 --> 00:28:47.480
you know, I loved one of theirs. So we talk

551
00:28:47.559 --> 00:28:49.839
a lot about how people can listen to their bodies

552
00:28:49.880 --> 00:28:52.799
and their intuition and develop whatever gifts they already have.

553
00:28:53.279 --> 00:28:55.000
All right, well cool, I think I need the book

554
00:28:55.000 --> 00:28:59.799
a session. Okay, so let's come back to your soul pinions.

555
00:29:00.000 --> 00:29:02.599
I'm really curious about that. Have you ever painted something

556
00:29:02.599 --> 00:29:05.759
that really, like, just shocked you? So can you tell

557
00:29:05.799 --> 00:29:06.680
us a little bit about that.

558
00:29:06.799 --> 00:29:08.960
Yes, I actually had the idea that you were going

559
00:29:09.000 --> 00:29:10.480
to ask me about this, So this is super cool.

560
00:29:11.000 --> 00:29:12.880
I was doing a reading on a five year old

561
00:29:12.880 --> 00:29:14.720
boy and all I knew was that he was five,

562
00:29:15.319 --> 00:29:18.839
and I did a very different type of soul painting.

563
00:29:19.480 --> 00:29:23.279
And it was a fire truck that had a very

564
00:29:23.359 --> 00:29:26.400
long ladder and behind it was a tall sort of

565
00:29:26.440 --> 00:29:30.519
apartment type building and there was a fireman with a hose,

566
00:29:30.559 --> 00:29:33.519
so you know clear what it was. And then I

567
00:29:33.640 --> 00:29:37.240
was trying consciously, I was trying to make the hose

568
00:29:37.480 --> 00:29:39.240
on the side of the truck you know, it's kind

569
00:29:39.240 --> 00:29:44.279
of coiled up, and I just my brain in my

570
00:29:44.440 --> 00:29:46.599
hand weren't connecting, and all I could make was this

571
00:29:46.880 --> 00:29:49.799
s shape. And I literally said to myself, is this

572
00:29:49.880 --> 00:29:53.920
Superman's firetruck right saw? I'm like, okay, I'm just gonna

573
00:29:53.920 --> 00:29:56.640
go with it. When I talked to the mom, she

574
00:29:56.799 --> 00:30:02.720
said her son was autistic, non verbal, and right before

575
00:30:02.799 --> 00:30:05.720
she got found out she was pregnant with him, they

576
00:30:05.799 --> 00:30:10.119
lost all of their belongings in an apartment fire. The

577
00:30:10.160 --> 00:30:14.079
whole like place burned down and she lost everything, and

578
00:30:14.519 --> 00:30:17.759
she said she was completely devastated, had no hope, and

579
00:30:17.759 --> 00:30:19.400
then found out she was pregnant.

580
00:30:19.960 --> 00:30:20.839
Oh my gosh.

581
00:30:20.880 --> 00:30:25.519
And she said this, this her little boy literally saved

582
00:30:25.519 --> 00:30:29.920
her and has such impact on all the people he meet.

583
00:30:30.039 --> 00:30:33.920
He's this very, you know, charismatic individual who's not even verbal.

584
00:30:34.559 --> 00:30:39.359
And she said that she was so moved that she

585
00:30:39.559 --> 00:30:44.000
calls him her Superman. It gets better, it gets better,

586
00:30:44.599 --> 00:30:48.440
and she I don't remember what Superman's middle name is,

587
00:30:48.480 --> 00:30:53.079
but that is the middle name of her her son.

588
00:30:55.039 --> 00:30:57.359
I don't I honestly don't remember. I don't know my mind.

589
00:30:57.359 --> 00:30:59.240
I don't have me big big Superman.

590
00:30:59.319 --> 00:31:02.960
Fr It's nice Okay, so whatever it is, that's the

591
00:31:02.960 --> 00:31:07.640
middle name she gave her son. So I remember just

592
00:31:07.799 --> 00:31:10.400
she was in tears, you know when when she saw

593
00:31:10.440 --> 00:31:12.880
the painting. I was getting chills. She was getting chills.

594
00:31:13.240 --> 00:31:13.920
That's amazing.

595
00:31:15.039 --> 00:31:16.960
Yeah, it's one I will never forget for sure.

596
00:31:19.400 --> 00:31:21.839
Okay, I don't want I'm taking all the questions.

597
00:31:21.960 --> 00:31:26.559
Well, so how did you first start doing this soul painting?

598
00:31:26.599 --> 00:31:27.880
Like what what led you to that?

599
00:31:28.680 --> 00:31:31.359
I've always been an artist, and I think it was

600
00:31:31.720 --> 00:31:34.839
kind of the young my Youngian psychology background too. He

601
00:31:34.960 --> 00:31:37.480
uses a lot of symbolism and art therapy, and art

602
00:31:37.480 --> 00:31:40.079
therapy has always been a really important healing tool for

603
00:31:40.119 --> 00:31:43.039
me and I have training in it too, And I

604
00:31:43.160 --> 00:31:49.160
wanted to incorporate something symbolic with the written words of

605
00:31:49.240 --> 00:31:53.880
the report because the it just feels impersonal sometimes even

606
00:31:53.920 --> 00:31:58.200
though it's deeply personal. But it just sort of came

607
00:31:58.240 --> 00:32:01.279
to me. I think I was looking at the Red Book, actually,

608
00:32:01.400 --> 00:32:05.960
Carl Jung's Red Book, which is pretty intense depiction of

609
00:32:06.000 --> 00:32:09.799
his spiritual journey, and it just came again, you know,

610
00:32:10.240 --> 00:32:14.759
spiritual intervention of what if you could make a symbolic

611
00:32:14.839 --> 00:32:19.160
representation of these people's lives and their bodies and energy

612
00:32:19.279 --> 00:32:22.000
and what would it look like. So I kind of

613
00:32:22.000 --> 00:32:23.759
fooled around with it, and I, you know, used a

614
00:32:23.759 --> 00:32:27.160
lot of people as guinea pigs. And that's how can do.

615
00:32:27.519 --> 00:32:28.799
Every once in a while when we have a guest

616
00:32:28.799 --> 00:32:30.799
that we really love on the show, we asked and

617
00:32:30.799 --> 00:32:35.759
we asked permission to ask some curveball questions that might

618
00:32:35.799 --> 00:32:37.759
be a little bit out of the norm. You cool

619
00:32:37.799 --> 00:32:40.119
with doing? Okay, all right, here's the first curveball question

620
00:32:40.119 --> 00:32:43.359
I'm going through you. Right, if someone asked you to

621
00:32:43.359 --> 00:32:48.319
create a medical intuitive reading for planet Earth, what do

622
00:32:48.359 --> 00:32:49.160
you think you'd find?

623
00:32:50.039 --> 00:32:54.480
Oh? Okay, that's depressing. A lot of hurt, abuse is

624
00:32:54.480 --> 00:32:59.000
coming to mind, neglect, kind of taking being taken for granted,

625
00:33:00.200 --> 00:33:05.160
needing to set boundaries, a lot of symptoms that people

626
00:33:05.240 --> 00:33:09.279
aren't aren't looking at, you know, enough and aren't responding

627
00:33:09.319 --> 00:33:13.640
to enough, and the fact that we need the planet

628
00:33:13.680 --> 00:33:16.680
to be as healthy as possible, not just for now,

629
00:33:17.279 --> 00:33:20.160
but for our futures, and that we need to really

630
00:33:20.480 --> 00:33:22.319
listen more and take better care of it.

631
00:33:22.839 --> 00:33:24.279
Right, that's how it sounds like.

632
00:33:24.400 --> 00:33:26.240
That reminds me of something I just heard yesterday on

633
00:33:26.319 --> 00:33:29.079
NPR talking about taking care of the earth. Apparently in

634
00:33:29.160 --> 00:33:34.359
Paris they have disallowed cars. What people can't drive cars anymore.

635
00:33:34.400 --> 00:33:37.160
Then they can take public transportation and they can walk,

636
00:33:38.160 --> 00:33:42.759
and they're planning a little mini urban forests. I had

637
00:33:42.799 --> 00:33:44.279
just heard about this, and at first I guess the

638
00:33:44.640 --> 00:33:47.119
mayor so that the Parisians are very you know, upset

639
00:33:47.119 --> 00:33:50.559
about this. Now they're like this is they're actually getting

640
00:33:50.559 --> 00:33:53.400
out and enjoying Paris again. People are outside, they're walking,

641
00:33:53.400 --> 00:33:54.200
their biking more.

642
00:33:54.640 --> 00:33:59.000
Was this a credible source that NPR PR no cure.

643
00:33:59.240 --> 00:34:01.440
I think it was. I was, yeah, whatever, the you know,

644
00:34:01.480 --> 00:34:02.160
I listened.

645
00:34:01.880 --> 00:34:03.799
To like, wow, that's incredible.

646
00:34:03.880 --> 00:34:05.839
Yeah, it was very very cool.

647
00:34:05.920 --> 00:34:08.039
Well, remember remember back during the COVID when everything was

648
00:34:08.039 --> 00:34:10.559
closing down, the dolphins will come back to venness and

649
00:34:10.559 --> 00:34:11.320
all that kind of stuff.

650
00:34:11.360 --> 00:34:14.159
So there's hope there is.

651
00:34:15.079 --> 00:34:17.280
So it seems like like Paris and New York places

652
00:34:17.280 --> 00:34:19.519
that have mass transportation. I can totally see that, But

653
00:34:19.519 --> 00:34:23.039
can you imagine that here you don't have a car,

654
00:34:23.039 --> 00:34:23.719
here you're sunk.

655
00:34:26.679 --> 00:34:28.800
Maybe they just incorporate, you know, they take out the

656
00:34:28.840 --> 00:34:30.880
cars and they put a bus so people take you know,

657
00:34:30.880 --> 00:34:31.719
the buses.

658
00:34:31.440 --> 00:34:36.480
Or bikes like Denmark. Okay, cool. Well here's another, another

659
00:34:36.719 --> 00:34:40.679
curveball question. If your intuition had a voice, how would

660
00:34:40.679 --> 00:34:44.800
you describe the personality? Is it gentle, sassy, wise, parental, wise,

661
00:34:44.840 --> 00:34:47.000
ass will.

662
00:34:50.599 --> 00:34:51.039
Well.

663
00:34:51.360 --> 00:34:54.320
I'm also imagining how my husband would describe that. The

664
00:34:54.360 --> 00:34:56.960
first thing that comes to mind is very honest and

665
00:34:57.000 --> 00:35:03.679
loving and empathic and putting myself in the place of

666
00:35:03.760 --> 00:35:06.199
others who've been through difficult things.

667
00:35:06.440 --> 00:35:07.960
Okay, so the voice would be like Karen.

668
00:35:11.119 --> 00:35:18.320
Wait, not like a Karen. No, right, just differentiate.

669
00:35:17.840 --> 00:35:20.199
Right, right. So I remember the question I had if

670
00:35:20.280 --> 00:35:23.199
it came to me the report that you give to people,

671
00:35:23.400 --> 00:35:26.079
Does that mean that you're constantly like writing four pagsays

672
00:35:26.119 --> 00:35:27.679
for people or do you have like a machine that

673
00:35:27.679 --> 00:35:28.239
spits it out?

674
00:35:28.760 --> 00:35:30.199
I wish I had a machine. No, my guys are

675
00:35:30.280 --> 00:35:34.639
kind of like a machine. Right. I purposely see maybe

676
00:35:34.920 --> 00:35:38.119
six to nine people a week at the most, and

677
00:35:38.360 --> 00:35:42.000
some of those are regular counseling clients, intuitive counseling clients

678
00:35:42.000 --> 00:35:45.199
that I see on a regular basis. So I usually

679
00:35:45.320 --> 00:35:50.000
do anywhere from four to six actual reports per week,

680
00:35:50.679 --> 00:35:53.960
and I do like those on Sundays and Mondays to

681
00:35:54.039 --> 00:35:56.280
prepare for the week. So so no, I am not

682
00:35:56.320 --> 00:35:59.920
constantly writing and I have a template that I start

683
00:36:00.079 --> 00:36:03.639
with that is divided into all the chakras, and it

684
00:36:03.679 --> 00:36:07.559
gives this the physical and emotional characteristics of each chakra,

685
00:36:07.679 --> 00:36:09.480
so you don't have to know anything about chakras to

686
00:36:09.679 --> 00:36:13.119
understand the report. And then I the third column is

687
00:36:13.199 --> 00:36:14.960
kind of what I fill in for what I get

688
00:36:14.960 --> 00:36:16.480
for the person that I'm doing the reading for.

689
00:36:17.239 --> 00:36:19.400
Gotcha, So it's more fill in the blank and not

690
00:36:19.559 --> 00:36:20.679
like long form survey.

691
00:36:20.840 --> 00:36:26.639
Yes, yes, correct, I know, yeah, yeah, terrifying.

692
00:36:28.400 --> 00:36:31.559
Okay, So for anyone that's listening who right now, who's

693
00:36:31.599 --> 00:36:35.440
struggling with something that they can't explain, whether it's chronic pain,

694
00:36:35.519 --> 00:36:40.239
or emotional overwhelm or just feeling stuck, what's the very

695
00:36:40.280 --> 00:36:42.119
first step you recommend that they take?

696
00:36:45.199 --> 00:36:48.960
What I where I start in my readings is kind

697
00:36:48.960 --> 00:36:53.199
of doing an overview of what is the most pressing thing,

698
00:36:54.400 --> 00:36:57.400
you know, what's the thing that is impacting your life

699
00:36:57.440 --> 00:36:59.760
the most, are bothering you the most? And even in

700
00:36:59.800 --> 00:37:03.639
my book, I take people through a pretty extensive quiz

701
00:37:03.800 --> 00:37:06.159
of what's going on in your life and and what

702
00:37:06.239 --> 00:37:09.760
are the things that are most important to you? Were

703
00:37:09.800 --> 00:37:12.000
to start, you know, sometimes people don't even know what's

704
00:37:12.039 --> 00:37:14.239
bothering them because it's just been there forever and they

705
00:37:14.280 --> 00:37:15.679
don't even know how to put it into words. So

706
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sort of an identification of one thing that you want

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to start working on because everything feels overwhelming, especially if

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you try to do it all at once. And then

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in the book and in my readings too, I start

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with helping people connect to their intuition and their authentic

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self and start by just trying to be calmer, be

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more present and giving yourself a break, you know, not

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being so hard on yourself, and that kind of you know,

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starts the ball rolling.

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Gotcha? Okay, a lot of people are talking about intuition,

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of medicine, that kind of stuff right in this space, metaphysics, spirituality.

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There's a lot of it's although it's not new or young,

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it's there's a lot of new people coming to it.

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So there's a lot of misconceptions that come along with

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all this kinds of stuff. Are there any misconceptions you

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feel are really important to dispel right now?

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Absolutely?

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I'm really glad you brought that up, because I have

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been called a witch, I have been called satan, I

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have been told that some of them by my own family,

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right actually, yeah, I don't have anything to do with

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them anymore. So there's a reason. But you know that

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I'm anti Christian, that what I that listening to intuition

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is going against the Bible, you know, it's being evil interesting,

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And that is so incredibly sad to me because my

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first connection to intuition was with God and it still

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is and God is love, you know, I help people

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heal and love themselves more.

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And by.

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Just having this assumption that you know nothing about that

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it's somehow negative or evil or against God is just

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it couldn't be further from the truth. So that's that's

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a big one.

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Yeah, Yeah, that is very sad. There's a lot of

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folks who are Christian who aren't in that thought process, right,

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they don't fit into that thought process. Unfortunately, there are

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a lot of them that are. And I can't help

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but think that's based in fear, uoted in programming, and

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fear that they've been brought up. And so it's as

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much as I hate that they would feel that way,

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I do understand why. Unfortunately, you have to give them empathy. However,

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when you think about if you are even interested in

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the space remotely, you probably have heard of Edgar Casey,

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and Casey, who's the father of metaphysics, was a Christian

750
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first and foremost, and he came up with all these

751
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holistic remedies and he's a like he was like the

752
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first medical intuitive, right. He would he would dream the recipes,

753
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do these to these concoctions that he put together for people.

754
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So yeah, it's true. And even Carl Jung who really

755
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started all of the symbolism and the Louise Hay stuff

756
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and everything people are doing now, it's really all based

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on YOUNGI and stuff and young theories, you know. And

758
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he was a Christian too, so.

759
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Yeah, yeah, and you and when you get into the

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conversation of science, like if right, quantum physics now has

761
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allowed us to connect the dots and a lot of

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these things. So it's no longer a mystical Oh it's

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from God or it's from Satan. This is just the

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way nature works. This is how the world is.

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So I try to make what I do as non

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woo woo as possible.

767
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Yeah, although there is pretty oh yeah, something we said

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about the woo that's pretty cool.

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Yeah, it makes it more fun, it.

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Doesn't make fun right, all right, Well, it's been it's

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been wonderful speaking with Is there anything that you want

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to make sure that you get to our across to

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our audience before we say goodbye.

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My my website will be on your your notes. It's

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Katiebeacher dot com on you know, Instagram and Facebook and

776
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all the places. And I love hearing from people. I

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offer a lot of different types of services and so

778
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much can be accomplished in just one reading. So I

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don't want people to feel like it's you know, a

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link in to like you know, tan appointments. We start

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with one, and it's.

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Not like psychology wh where you you know, you're there

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for a couple of years or whatever. And by the way,

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I didn't want to shout out that I'm glad that

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you connected yourself with Youngian psychology because Oldian psychology is

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not very good.

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I really like you guys. It would actually be quite

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fun to go have a drink with.

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Definitely.

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Apparently you just have to look at the night standing.

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All right, So so that I don't butcher it, Can

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you tell us again in the name of your book?

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Yes, Heal from Within a guidebook to Intuitive wellness and

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available everywhere whatever you on Amazon and all the places

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so internationally.

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Oh nice, Well, congratulations.

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Then we are going to add a direct link to

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the book and to your website and socials in our

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show notes. So if you are interested in connecting with Katie,

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and I recommend that you do because I'm really I'm

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gonna because I'm really curious about your readings, all you

802
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need to do is go to skeptic a position dot

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com and go to her episode page. You'll see that

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link directly initial All you need to do is hit

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enter and you'll be connected. Katie, thank you so much

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for being on the show. It's been a really fun

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conversation with her.

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My pleasure and sorry for the technical difficulties at the beginning.

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Your your patience is appreciated.

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What technical difficulties. I don't remember any technical difficulties. Right,

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We'll talk to you. Take care,
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Katie Beecher

Medical Intuitive, LPC

Katie Beecher, MS, LPC is a Licensed Professional Counselor and Medical and Emotional Intuitive with over thirty five years of experience. Katie is featured in over 200 media outlets including Goop, Kourtney Kardashian’s website Poosh and Miranda Kerr’s Kora Organics Blog and has taught a weeklong workshop at the Omega Institute. She has a unique way of working with clients, creating a detailed, individualized, physical, emotional, and spiritual report and symbolic painting, before ever seeing them, talking with them or seeing a photograph, using only their name and age.

Katie’s book, Heal from Within: An Intuitive Guide to Wellness is published by St. Martin’s Press. Using practical tools and techniques Katie uses in her own medical and spiritual intuitive readings, the book teaches you to be your own medical intuitive using Katie’s revolutionary, step-by-step process for connecting to intuition and spirit, finding self-love and empowerment as well as how to heal physically, emotionally, and spiritually. Heal from Within is filled with remarkable stories of healing from her years of experience as well as her own healing from bulimia, Lyme disease and emotional illness. At the age of sixteen, without telling anyone including her parents, Katie contacted her pediatrician and began therapy for a severe eating disorder and suicidal depression. She has been healed for over 35 years.