
Have you ever felt like the universe is trying to reach you but you can't quite make out the signal? What if there are angelic beings with urgent messages for humanity right now, and two women were specifically called to deliver them?
In this episode, Will and Karen sit down with Pamela Downs and Lisa Roach, psychic intuitive healers, angelic channelers, and founding partners of Spirit Calling, an online spiritual community built for everyone who is waking up and wondering what's happening to them.
Pamela and Lisa are channels for the Great Council of Light, a collective of angelic, divine, intelligent beings guiding humanity through one of the most significant shifts in consciousness the planet has ever experienced. And in this episode, the Council doesn't just get discussed. They show up.
What You'll Hear in This Episode:
How Pamela's week-long ayahuasca journey in Costa Rica unlocked her psychic abilities and set her on a path to build a portal for awakening humanity. How Lisa independently received the same download to "create a portal to serve mankind," and how the two found each other through a single unexplained Facebook post. What the Great Council of Light actually is, why two people can channel the same collective, and what they want humanity to know right now. A live channeled message for the collective, delivered on air. A live personal channeled message for Will, and the emotional moment that followed. The five signs you may already be in a spiritual awakening (and why most people dismiss them as something else). Why so many spiritually awakening people feel isolated, anxious, and out of place, and what to do about it. What Spirit Calling is, who it's for, and why it's been called the Angie's List for the spiritual world.
The Message the Council Keeps Repeating:
You are not crazy. You are not alone. And peace is not something you've lost. It's something you've been trained to distrust.
Whether you're a seasoned practitioner or someone who just started noticing things that don't fit your old worldview, this episode meets you exactly where you are.
Connect with Pamela Downs and Lisa Roach:
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Karen, yes, I think I hear spirit calling.
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Oh, and it might just be the great council of light trying to get our attention.
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Oh, now for you and me, it might be hard to hear the messages that the great council is
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trying to get to us.
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So thankfully, today, we have not one, but two people on the show that have awakened
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enough to be able to channel the messages that were so desperate to hear from them.
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And they've even created a community specifically designed for those that are ready to
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step out of their fear and live their soul's purpose.
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We'll hear all about the spirit calling with the great council of light and the messages
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from these beings that are trying to get through.
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On this week's episode of the skeptic manifestation starting right now.
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My name is Will and I'm Karen, and unlike Boulder and Scully, both want to believe.
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Hey there I'm Will and this week's main topic finds us in great company.
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Pamela Downed and Lisa Roach are psychic, intuitive healers and angelic channelers.
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They're also the founding partners of spirit calling an online portal that offers a community
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for those who are on their spiritual journey.
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They offer classes to make sure you read a group of soul, online practitioners and tools
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to help you heal your body, mind and spirit.
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They also happen to be channels for messages from their guide is a great council of light
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and they deliver timely and important messages from the council to humankind.
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Welcome to the show Pamela and Lisa.
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Great to have you on.
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Hello thank you for having us on great to see you both.
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Light wise.
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We're very excited.
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Let's just get the elephant out of the room out there.
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The great council of light tell us about them.
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Go ahead Pamela.
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The great council of light are our guides.
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They are a group of angelic divine, infinite intelligent beings that they consider Lisa and
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they are part of their group and we're honored.
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humankind through their awakening journey.
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So we call them our board of directors almost.
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that very awful.
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So the council is above individuals right?
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that is able to come through.
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Or a lot of times people can connect with one, right?
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their frequency and allow a transfer of information.
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We after having done a ton of work, recognize that we're just part of that in the human
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it whoever, whoever is alive right now in this moment, just bring it.
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at this very moment on the planet and this instrumental moment of awakening and consciousness
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shift to do this.
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uncover like you guys, you know, everything metaphysical, everything other worlds.
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my week long plant journey experience at the end of that week, I had this light come through
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my third eye, light up my whole body, my head was crackling and I heard your psychic abilities
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have been enhanced, everything from this moment forward will be different.
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narrative, I knew it was time, I knew it was something greater.
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and channeling the great council.
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I didn't know them at the time because I was had, I called myself a galactic hotel.
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There were all these different beings, all these different light languages, all these
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different frequencies that I needed to experience as I elevated and elevated and elevated to
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be able to connect with the great council of light.
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got up and I wrote it down.
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flying down on an iPhone screen and I got up and I sketched it.
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I kept hearing you're to build a portal, you're to build a portal for humanity.
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There's a glass ceiling that's going to break.
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Something's going to happen.
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Humans are going to walk around and go, who am I?
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What is this world that I believe in?
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What does this all mean?
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And they need to see a safe space to land.
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Meanwhile, Lisa had her own experience, which she can tell you about herself.
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I had already been working with private clients helping them physically, but understanding
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that processing through the physical body was really enhancing your energy body and helping
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you strengthen that and clear that.
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So I had already been working with private clients when I decided to rebrand.
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Where did you see Pamela's picture?
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Oh, they were to say like, please put things you should become friends with this person?
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I don't even think it was an ad.
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I just think it was a post that happened to I wasn't friends with her on Facebook.
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I don't know how it came up.
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It was just there as it does, right?
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Just showed up on my computer and I went, yep, there it is.
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I'm supposed to work with Pamela Downs at rev to rebrand Nagari.
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Okay, got it.
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I contacted her immediately.
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And what was Nagari?
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So Nagari was my private studio.
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And through that process of rebrand, I had done a real deep thought.
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I mean, who literally who goes to a marketing meeting and stops?
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I mean, surely you're like, that's because it got in the out there.
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And then everybody, right?
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So from there, I was like, okay, this is actually a deep dive into my soul.
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Like, where is ripping with every hour long?
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And one morning I woke up and I heard create a portal to save mankind.
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And I went, wait, what?
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They were working, I'm working on a really pretty bad site.
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They were creating a portal to save mankind.
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Got it, check.
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And we had a meeting that afternoon.
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And I'm telling you, I was like much like today where I'm sort of shaking.
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I went into that meeting shaking, not sure what to expect.
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And at the end, I was fighting back tears saying, Pamela, I need to talk to you.
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We have another project to do.
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Not quite sure what that looks like, but apparently it's a portal to serve all humankind as they
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go through their spiritual awakening and lean into their spiritual intelligence to help
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very rapidly build that a level of unconscious awareness.
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So that they can go to the totally different life from there, change the world.
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And I said, I know of it's called.
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It's called spirit calling.
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She's like, I don't know about that name.
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I'm like, no, it's called spirit calling.
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I got to download.
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I got all of it.
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It's called spirit calling.
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And then Lisa, I am part of--
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I was at weekend.
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I was at weekend and I was part of a global conscious entrepreneur community.
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I was kind of immersed in that culture for many years.
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And I had met somebody that I was on a Zoom meeting and it was a new member to this community.
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And he was up, his little Zoom box was just bouncing at me the whole time during this meeting
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and I knew there was something about him.
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So I asked him to hang on and I said, I want to meet you.
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Let's talk and I got on a call with him and he builds communities.
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He was instrumental in building and understanding the user experience and helping us create
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our community.
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It's everyone who works with us, everyone who's spirit puts in alignment with us has profound
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experience, has an up leveling, has a shift that happens within them because everyone
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on this portal is here to do this work right now at this really important time and it's
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really beautiful to witness and to experience.
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You talk about building a portal to serve me.
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What kind of things can someone find?
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Like why should Karen and I who are in this space who are trying to be in this space and help
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share the message?
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Why should we become a part of this portal, this community?
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Because your spiritually curious, your metaphysically curious, you want to know what's going
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on.
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You're having experiences and you don't understand them.
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You have a community of people that are going through the same thing as you.
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You have a group of healers and practitioners that you can directly message and talk to
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you and they're there to support you.
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You know, Lisa and I went through our awakening experience alone and it was hard.
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I didn't have anyone to speak with.
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Nobody understood that I was having these experiences in the night or that I had questions
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about a Kashaq records or like, you go on as journey and you're devouring everything,
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completely all the time because you just want to know more and you want to know more.
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We put everything together in one place.
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So all you have to do is join and show up.
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Put your experiences in the portal.
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Write them down.
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People are showing up to say, "Hey, I had that happen to me."
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Or, "Hey, I can help you with that if you're having a block or you're having pain or
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you're having."
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It's like, it's so, what do we say, all encompassing?
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It's really, it's speaking to every need that someone has on their journey.
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Is it like a social media platform?
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Is it videos?
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Is it audio?
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What kind of, or is it audio pop?
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It's everything.
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It's everything.
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Okay.
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So the way that I approached this and Pamela and I worked so hard on this, coming from
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a perspective of practitioner, seeing people who would walk in, toward with me.
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And there was this umbrella of service, a level of service that everybody needed, right?
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You needed the appropriate practitioners.
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You could stop stabbing around in the dark.
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And that's good referral system, right?
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Who serves you best if you need something in person, one on one, private, that could hands
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on even.
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But it's that special recipe that's unique to you of practitioner, tools and education.
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So it's like that from there.
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And it's like the Angie's list for the spirit world.
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I'm just curious.
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Seriously.
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Yeah.
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Exactly.
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Whatever you mean.
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Yeah.
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Put some wings on that Angie.
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But yeah, exactly.
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Yeah.
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Well, very cool.
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So, so many, so many different directions, so many different questions.
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She was one.
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Yeah.
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So, spirit calling the Galactic Council of Light, have there been more synchronicities
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or more direction after you create a spirit calling?
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There been hell yeah.
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Okay.
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So, there was a, there was a, W-W-E wrestler.
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I forget his name, or whatever.
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He used to say, give me a hell yeah.
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And that's my answer to that.
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Give me a hell yeah.
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Hell yeah.
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Hell yeah.
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That's what that is.
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Yeah.
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No, listen, we have groups within our community that are dedicated to delivering the messages
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that come through.
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So that's one, one thing that we have to offer is every day, all day, we are channels.
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We are open channels.
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So, messages come in any moment for anybody and they just come streaming in and they come
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in very strong.
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Sometimes they're for the entire community, sometimes they're for the entire world.
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So, we put those on YouTube.
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But the ones are for the community go right into the portal directly to our community.
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Then we have a group that is as the Oracle.
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And I will, you asked the question, I'll sit in a channel state and give you your answer.
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Hmm.
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Yeah.
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Should we go in that direction?
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I know.
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I think we are going to go in that direction.
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We are going to.
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Yeah.
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So, I actually did want to go in that direction.
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However, before we knew, we do need to take a break.
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So, we are going to take a pause, get yourself prepared.
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When we come back, we are going to go in that direction.
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So, don't go anywhere.
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You don't want to miss this.
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Welcome back to the skeptic manifestations.
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We are talking to Pamela and Lisa who are psychic healers and channelers and have created
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an incredible online portal, an online community called Spirit Calling.
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And before the break, we were talking about going in a certain direction that I am very
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excited about.
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So, I'm not going to even miss any more words.
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The direction is, I guess there is a lot of messages coming through that galactic counsel
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is knocking on their door trying to get some messages out.
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So, rather than waste any more time, Lisa, I'm not going to make you suffer anymore.
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What's coming through?
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What do you feel it?
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I so appreciate that because it really is hard.
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It's like holding a door close that a whole lot of people are trying to shove open.
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Okay, so where do I start?
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We'll, let's start with you.
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So, this whole COVID thing is a huge, momentous marker in your life.
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It is rapid clearing through your body.
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It's what COVID has been all along.
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It's meant to burn through.
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It's why it causes so much information.
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So, wherever you are feeling inflammation, it's all rising up through your throat right
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now.
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And that needs to come out.
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So, when you cough, spit it out.
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Get that, get it.
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It's all of this energy wrapping up and around your left tonsill.
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And then up into the, your jaw, left jaw, sorry.
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So now I'm listening to you.
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I'm actually listening to you tell me to tell you where things are.
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Okay.
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I'm wrapping up around into your jaw and up into your ear canal.
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So put a little, a little peroxide in your ear.
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Just let it bubble, bubble, bubble.
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And when it's done, it'll have helped clear that passage.
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Great.
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Okay.
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I have been having issues with my ears being completely clogged for a very long time.
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That makes sense.
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For those who are long time listeners who are part of our community, you've heard, you
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know that I tracked it COVID, well, that was out a few weeks ago.
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And it's still burning through me.
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For those of you who didn't know, surprise.
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You got COVID for the first time in Hawaii in paradise.
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So there's a pros and cons to it, but that's exactly what Lisa's talking about.
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So sorry, to interrupt you.
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Please say that.
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No, of course.
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Say thank you to it.
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Okay.
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Say thank you to it because it's doing you a service.
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It's getting rid of all the shit that you should not be carrying forward with you.
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That's the elevation that's happening for you Rick.
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So you got a very specific message that says allow for an extension of harmonic and
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energy when you think you're up level.
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Yeah.
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Okay.
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What is that?
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So that goes with a message from yesterday.
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Oh, that's right.
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So harmonic energy.
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People try to find balance in their life.
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Right.
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Family work, spousal, balance, energetic balance.
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They're constantly looking for balance.
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You've rubbled out of balance and into Harvey.
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What does that mean?
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You're doing what that means.
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So, so you know, you're always people, people generally started off looking for well, I need
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to, I need to do 50%.
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Oh, settle down.
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No, not 50% working all the time.
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50% doing all the time.
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50% doing my job.
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50% with my family.
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This is now, um, how do I, how do I harmonize those?
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So then I'm not constantly looking for 50%.
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6040 is good.
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70, 30 is good, right?
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80, 20, 85.
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Right.
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It's all of these different harmonies balance.
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So, listen to music.
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Okay.
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Listen to music and find those harmonies.
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Jazz music in particular would be really, very good for you.
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It's finding that syncopated rhythm to find the, and it, it, read programs you're bringing.
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It's going through, it's going to help out with the COVID.
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It's going to, the COVID is trying to burn through your ears.
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You can pull down on your earlobes.
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Sorry, I'm talking so fast.
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They've so much information.
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Pull down on your earlobes.
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It's going to open up both ear canals.
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That's what they're saying.
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Left, left needs some peroxide that's going to be in there that helps clear the energy.
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But then jazz music in particular with a lot of hairs.
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So it's more like, um, what is that being in New Orleans?
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That kind of jazz music, right?
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The marching down the street that like runs through your brain and starts to wake things
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up.
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It's so funny.
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Because I just picked up New Orleans as a market in my day job.
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It's brand, brand new.
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I didn't have responsibilities for New Orleans before, but now I do.
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So maybe, well, there you go.
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So if you can get into the area and participate in a parade, that's going to send the rhythm
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through your body and put that new harmonic, your body in the post you upload.
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Yeah, you're, you're, you're, you're me because it just happens.
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They also picked up New England.
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In New England, I have a big, wasn't the library that I'm in charge of now.
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Oh my God.
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Hey, so it's that celebratory music, right?
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That's that it's that walking and finding the step will not be all the doubt.
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If you know anything about music, right?
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You're always looking for that.
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Yeah, that's why I'm telling you because you, right?
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So I keep seeing lines.
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When you said, what is that?
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I keep seeing lines and like, when one is out of balance or one's wiggling out of it,
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it's like it's everything's going to come in and what it might sound weird, but they sound
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beautiful together.
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That sort of thing, everything will come in and work together in harmony.
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Yeah.
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Okay.
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So you can, you can sit and listen to music, start tapping your foot to the downbeat and then
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your snap will be in between.
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Go through the half, the eight and then you can find things and find the syncopated.
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It's, it's, I don't know why it's so weird, but it is because he's, because he's,
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he can relate to music.
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He must have.
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He must have.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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I'm very caring.
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You're a little bit different.
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You are, this is your message.
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You are about to adjust to a new frequency to allow for an elevation of spirit and authority.
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So it's like you're stepping into a new elevation of power.
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Mm.
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And the best.
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Right.
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And what was scribbled here in like huge ass, right?
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Is energy for the elevation of spirit and abundance for all and an authenticity of mankind.
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So, no, small job for you.
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I don't know.
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I don't know.
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I don't know.
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I don't know.
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I don't know.
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To prepare your body, there needs to be a little bit of, a little bit of work to kind
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of clear out any kind of limitation that's hanging out around your body.
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Okay.
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Okay.
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It's all starting up here in your right armpit, which you can massage.
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Aguasha.
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Thank you.
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So, I don't know if you know what Aguasha is.
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It's a slab of stone really thin, curved in nature.
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And it's usually used for facials.
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Like it's really pretty.
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But you would use the rounded side and not so much the dip inside, but the rounded
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side to massage within your right armpit.
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You need to clear that limp, limp, limp, no, in your right armpit.
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Okay.
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That's going to help open up the energy that's stuck in between the tiny ribs in your chest.
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Okay.
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You don't necessarily have to dig in here.
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It's more just go to the junction.
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They're saying that this lymph is your junction, okay?
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You can smooth out the tissue like this towards your armpit where you can go for
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from the center, more of the chest plate and massage out.
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But just make sure you clear through the armpit.
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And then it goes down, down to the right rest tissue for you.
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Okay?
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So, I keep an eye on that.
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I'm not saying there's anything scary.
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It just means it needs a little bit of massaging.
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Maybe a little bit better support.
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Okay.
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Okay.
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That's your own stuff.
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You know, we got a lot.
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Like, for support.
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I know.
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Yeah.
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So listen, I am asked for any known person.
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But, red, that's raw.
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That's that would be a sign paddling your bra.
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Okay.
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Scoop and get that side panel of the gastroflesh.
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Okay.
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That helps support your shoulder.
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Okay.
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So, right shoulder.
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Any kind of tension that is running up a little bit of the trap here, up the side, but
472
00:25:05,480 --> 00:25:07,080
then going straight down.
473
00:25:07,080 --> 00:25:12,440
So, rather than going up into your neck, it's going straight down and creating this circle
474
00:25:12,440 --> 00:25:15,400
of energy that's getting stuck in the joint itself.
475
00:25:15,400 --> 00:25:16,400
Okay.
476
00:25:16,400 --> 00:25:21,400
So, good, we're on for a support massage up there in the lymphatic system.
477
00:25:21,400 --> 00:25:24,240
That, all to open up your heart meridian.
478
00:25:24,240 --> 00:25:25,240
Okay.
479
00:25:25,240 --> 00:25:26,240
Okay.
480
00:25:26,240 --> 00:25:30,720
You can help that energy along once you've cleared your right arm hit by massaging your
481
00:25:30,720 --> 00:25:31,720
right pinky.
482
00:25:31,720 --> 00:25:32,720
Oh.
483
00:25:32,720 --> 00:25:33,720
Okay.
484
00:25:33,720 --> 00:25:34,720
Okay.
485
00:25:34,720 --> 00:25:35,720
It's a milking.
486
00:25:35,720 --> 00:25:38,360
Like, you would extract milk from a cow.
487
00:25:38,360 --> 00:25:40,680
It's the exact same technique.
488
00:25:40,680 --> 00:25:44,960
You just want to milk it and pull the energy line out your pinky.
489
00:25:44,960 --> 00:25:45,960
Okay.
490
00:25:45,960 --> 00:25:46,960
Okay.
491
00:25:46,960 --> 00:25:47,960
So, then you can step up and roll the world.
492
00:25:47,960 --> 00:25:49,560
Do you think you can handle that?
493
00:25:49,560 --> 00:25:52,280
We've seen the direction.
494
00:25:52,280 --> 00:25:56,320
There's been things that are happening in care and that show us that, yeah, she's meant
495
00:25:56,320 --> 00:25:57,320
to roll them.
496
00:25:57,320 --> 00:26:02,400
So, it sounds like a lot of the messages that you're getting are somewhat medical in
497
00:26:02,400 --> 00:26:03,400
nature.
498
00:26:03,400 --> 00:26:06,120
Traditionally, what comes through for you?
499
00:26:06,120 --> 00:26:13,480
So, what comes through for me is the frequency that you're capable of hearing and receiving
500
00:26:13,480 --> 00:26:14,720
in the moment.
501
00:26:14,720 --> 00:26:15,720
Right?
502
00:26:15,720 --> 00:26:18,280
So, if I just sent you a caring, you're going to roll the world.
503
00:26:18,280 --> 00:26:20,080
Do you think you can handle it?
504
00:26:20,080 --> 00:26:22,960
But start it off with that.
505
00:26:22,960 --> 00:26:28,680
You're in charge of elevating all spirits for abundance, right?
506
00:26:28,680 --> 00:26:30,160
And awakening all mankind.
507
00:26:30,160 --> 00:26:31,680
It's a little dark day.
508
00:26:31,680 --> 00:26:32,680
Right?
509
00:26:32,680 --> 00:26:33,360
Yeah.
510
00:26:33,360 --> 00:26:39,840
And just to manage, smidge daunting, you know, so rather than completely overwhelmed, give
511
00:26:39,840 --> 00:26:40,840
the tools, right?
512
00:26:40,840 --> 00:26:43,320
So, then I'm told, give these tools.
513
00:26:43,320 --> 00:26:45,160
They're very pragmatic.
514
00:26:45,160 --> 00:26:46,480
They're very 3D.
515
00:26:46,480 --> 00:26:51,920
Do these things for your body so that your body can then accept the frequency of serving all
516
00:26:51,920 --> 00:26:52,920
mankind.
517
00:26:52,920 --> 00:26:53,920
Right?
518
00:26:53,920 --> 00:26:55,920
That's how we make content for us.
519
00:26:55,920 --> 00:26:56,920
Yes.
520
00:26:56,920 --> 00:26:57,920
Do these things?
521
00:26:57,920 --> 00:26:58,920
It's all the sudden.
522
00:26:58,920 --> 00:27:00,320
It'll be like, yeah, let's go.
523
00:27:00,320 --> 00:27:02,200
Well, that makes it really exciting.
524
00:27:02,200 --> 00:27:06,160
Here, and I know that you've got lots of questions because of what's happening through.
525
00:27:06,160 --> 00:27:07,520
So, does it resonate with you?
526
00:27:07,520 --> 00:27:09,880
Does that, does what she's saying kind of makes sense to you?
527
00:27:09,880 --> 00:27:14,520
I mean, it's totally different than, and I don't even know what to say.
528
00:27:14,520 --> 00:27:17,640
But I need to, how do you spell that stone?
529
00:27:17,640 --> 00:27:20,760
Like, I need that being, because I have not already that before.
530
00:27:20,760 --> 00:27:21,760
Guaranteed.
531
00:27:21,760 --> 00:27:22,760
So, yeah, we'll see.
532
00:27:22,760 --> 00:27:26,200
I mean, I just, I'm excited to put proxies in my left ear and find out how that works.
533
00:27:26,200 --> 00:27:27,200
I know.
534
00:27:27,200 --> 00:27:28,840
You've heard of people like for a while.
535
00:27:28,840 --> 00:27:30,440
For a long time, yeah.
536
00:27:30,440 --> 00:27:36,120
Is there any coming through for our audience or anything that's for society at large that
537
00:27:36,120 --> 00:27:37,120
we need to hear?
538
00:27:37,120 --> 00:27:38,440
Go ahead, Pamela.
539
00:27:38,440 --> 00:27:43,160
Well, there were two messages that came through yesterday when I sat down to channel.
540
00:27:43,160 --> 00:27:46,040
So, I channel in a different way than Lisa.
541
00:27:46,040 --> 00:27:49,360
I'm not a medical intuitive.
542
00:27:49,360 --> 00:27:51,680
The guides talk directly through me.
543
00:27:51,680 --> 00:27:56,920
So, I can sit down and I can ground myself and then I can call in your guide.
544
00:27:56,920 --> 00:27:59,960
And then they shake my head up and down when they're here.
545
00:27:59,960 --> 00:28:03,920
And then I feel their energy permeate my being and then the messages start coming out.
546
00:28:03,920 --> 00:28:10,120
And I do automatic writing directly on a keyboard directly into like a Google doc.
547
00:28:10,120 --> 00:28:11,120
So that, I do that.
548
00:28:11,120 --> 00:28:16,240
And then I also speak it, which I think you saw on the Nicole podcast when you saw us that
549
00:28:16,240 --> 00:28:17,240
first time.
550
00:28:17,240 --> 00:28:19,920
That was the second time I ever channeled publicly lives.
551
00:28:19,920 --> 00:28:21,600
I did it on the podcast.
552
00:28:21,600 --> 00:28:22,600
But, yeah.
553
00:28:22,600 --> 00:28:24,840
So, I do that for our community.
554
00:28:24,840 --> 00:28:28,080
I have a group within our community called channel, the live channel messages from the
555
00:28:28,080 --> 00:28:30,080
great council of light.
556
00:28:30,080 --> 00:28:34,280
They are constantly sending specific messages just to the community, just to our healers
557
00:28:34,280 --> 00:28:39,640
and our sole leaders and our practitioners, just to members.
558
00:28:39,640 --> 00:28:44,120
And then there's messages that I send out via our YouTube channel that are for the whole
559
00:28:44,120 --> 00:28:45,880
entire planet.
560
00:28:45,880 --> 00:28:51,200
And they're, you know, they can be heavy, but they are coming fast and furiously.
561
00:28:51,200 --> 00:28:55,240
And the guides, you know, handle messages with kick gloves sometimes and other times
562
00:28:55,240 --> 00:28:56,640
they're like, "It offs your ass."
563
00:28:56,640 --> 00:28:59,560
This is the shit sitting in the fan and you guys need to pay attention.
564
00:28:59,560 --> 00:29:03,480
So, that's what's been happening.
565
00:29:03,480 --> 00:29:07,000
I mean, they've talked about world events that are coming.
566
00:29:07,000 --> 00:29:13,760
They've talked about a massive, like, shutdown, a new energy of currency that's to follow.
567
00:29:13,760 --> 00:29:16,040
I mean, they get very, very specific.
568
00:29:16,040 --> 00:29:18,840
You can see those on our YouTube channel.
569
00:29:18,840 --> 00:29:22,960
And I just try to honor them as much as possible.
570
00:29:22,960 --> 00:29:26,600
To find the time, you know, we're all busy, but to find the time to make sure that I'm
571
00:29:26,600 --> 00:29:27,960
able to do this.
572
00:29:27,960 --> 00:29:34,360
So yesterday, I asked the question, "What is the one thing that you would like to have answered
573
00:29:34,360 --> 00:29:35,600
during your conversation?"
574
00:29:35,600 --> 00:29:40,120
And they came out with something I have never heard, never said myself before.
575
00:29:40,120 --> 00:29:45,560
And they don't know why, but they talked about dynamic intervention, which was like, "What
576
00:29:45,560 --> 00:29:47,880
is dynamic intervention?"
577
00:29:47,880 --> 00:29:50,160
So I asked that.
578
00:29:50,160 --> 00:29:51,680
And this is, that they gave me this.
579
00:29:51,680 --> 00:29:53,480
And then I said, "I need a message for will."
580
00:29:53,480 --> 00:29:57,560
So I called in your guides, and then I titled a message that's just for you.
581
00:29:57,560 --> 00:30:02,360
So, you know, we're going to be transparent, and I hope that's okay, but you can, you know,
582
00:30:02,360 --> 00:30:03,360
of course.
583
00:30:03,360 --> 00:30:06,200
Edit out anything you don't want to be heard.
584
00:30:06,200 --> 00:30:07,200
We're open.
585
00:30:07,200 --> 00:30:08,200
Awesome.
586
00:30:08,200 --> 00:30:12,240
Okay, so I speak it the way that I heard it.
587
00:30:12,240 --> 00:30:17,160
So there's inflection in certain specific words for an importance.
588
00:30:17,160 --> 00:30:19,360
What is dynamic intervention?
589
00:30:19,360 --> 00:30:26,480
The diagnosis of change within a person's energetic being is calculated by our guides.
590
00:30:26,480 --> 00:30:33,160
An intervention is obtained through the increased state of awareness, being enhanced and
591
00:30:33,160 --> 00:30:36,120
directly accessed through the energy field.
592
00:30:36,120 --> 00:30:38,120
Now does that make sense to you?
593
00:30:38,120 --> 00:30:39,120
It does.
594
00:30:39,120 --> 00:30:40,120
Interesting.
595
00:30:40,120 --> 00:30:41,120
Yeah.
596
00:30:41,120 --> 00:30:48,280
One is able to access, retrieve, and continue dynamic exchanges between carrier and the
597
00:30:48,280 --> 00:30:49,280
individual.
598
00:30:49,280 --> 00:30:54,520
You are able to access and retrieve, was simultaneously healing your body, mind, and
599
00:30:54,520 --> 00:30:56,920
being as a whole.
600
00:30:56,920 --> 00:31:00,040
You are not alone in your journey of ascension and awakening.
601
00:31:00,040 --> 00:31:02,000
This is for your community.
602
00:31:02,000 --> 00:31:07,720
We are here with us, and we are able to work together to retrieve access, to provide
603
00:31:07,720 --> 00:31:12,560
healing and resolution of trauma and carmic pain.
604
00:31:12,560 --> 00:31:15,400
Forever you are working through carmic pain.
605
00:31:15,400 --> 00:31:21,980
And in this point in your evolution, you will not need to work as deeply and as vigorously
606
00:31:21,980 --> 00:31:24,680
as you have in previous decades.
607
00:31:24,680 --> 00:31:31,600
For you are elevating at such a speed that your interaction will immediately be responsive.
608
00:31:31,600 --> 00:31:35,680
So to the people that are doing the work on the planet, to the people who have been healing
609
00:31:35,680 --> 00:31:41,560
their trauma, who have been releasing their shadow work, it's going to get easier and easier
610
00:31:41,560 --> 00:31:45,800
because of where they are at the specific time on the planet.
611
00:31:45,800 --> 00:31:52,120
An exchange of sorts, much like a battery and knowing of one near itself, the action of
612
00:31:52,120 --> 00:31:59,080
moving towards each other and dynamically enter and alter exchanges of frequency.
613
00:31:59,080 --> 00:32:02,040
You are not alone.
614
00:32:02,040 --> 00:32:07,960
You are in a constant state of evolution, one of mind, body, and spirit.
615
00:32:07,960 --> 00:32:13,320
Go forth and speak of the portal and the exchanges of spirit and body.
616
00:32:13,320 --> 00:32:16,040
For you are here now to elevate the planet.
617
00:32:16,040 --> 00:32:18,200
You are here together for humankind.
618
00:32:18,200 --> 00:32:22,560
I love them because they are like, go forth and tell everybody about spirit clined.
619
00:32:22,560 --> 00:32:24,360
This is what they say all the time.
620
00:32:24,360 --> 00:32:27,200
They are like, "Cal everybody about spirit, calling."
621
00:32:27,200 --> 00:32:30,440
We are like, "Okay, okay, we are doing it."
622
00:32:30,440 --> 00:32:32,040
That's your community members too.
623
00:32:32,040 --> 00:32:33,800
It's like it's to everyone.
624
00:32:33,800 --> 00:32:35,000
That's the big job at hand.
625
00:32:35,000 --> 00:32:37,920
Go forth, go forth and tell the place.
626
00:32:37,920 --> 00:32:39,920
It's interesting, right?
627
00:32:39,920 --> 00:32:44,000
Then I can send you these for you to post if people want to read that again.
628
00:32:44,000 --> 00:32:45,000
Sure.
629
00:32:45,000 --> 00:32:48,160
Yeah, it's very cool.
630
00:32:48,160 --> 00:32:51,400
Would you like to hear the message for Will?
631
00:32:51,400 --> 00:32:55,360
Before you do that, I want to make sure that everyone knows if you're listening to this,
632
00:32:55,360 --> 00:32:58,280
go to skepticmanofsition.com, go to our blog.
633
00:32:58,280 --> 00:33:03,040
Once this episode is out, we'll put what she just read in that blog so that you can read
634
00:33:03,040 --> 00:33:07,800
it for yourself because I know for me, I need to hear it and see it a couple times before
635
00:33:07,800 --> 00:33:08,800
it actually sinks in.
636
00:33:08,800 --> 00:33:09,800
We'll definitely do that.
637
00:33:09,800 --> 00:33:11,800
Now, we'll know if it's a good one.
638
00:33:11,800 --> 00:33:12,800
Yeah, the hot seat.
639
00:33:12,800 --> 00:33:13,800
Pamela, real quick.
640
00:33:13,800 --> 00:33:22,800
Just before you, before we dive into that, this makes everything make sense, right?
641
00:33:22,800 --> 00:33:29,560
Your community are at a point where they're able to accept that there's a brand new way to
642
00:33:29,560 --> 00:33:36,120
heal, that you don't have to suffer and that you can actually do things very easily and
643
00:33:36,120 --> 00:33:38,120
very quickly, right?
644
00:33:38,120 --> 00:33:40,920
What's easier than massage your own or a good bra?
645
00:33:40,920 --> 00:33:43,120
Good bra, sitting your left ear.
646
00:33:43,120 --> 00:33:44,120
That might be easier.
647
00:33:44,120 --> 00:33:45,120
It's quite clay down.
648
00:33:45,120 --> 00:33:47,120
That one has a coil.
649
00:33:47,120 --> 00:33:48,120
Yeah, yeah.
650
00:33:48,120 --> 00:33:50,320
But that's just it.
651
00:33:50,320 --> 00:33:54,880
Find the energy that is causing discomfort because that's the energy that's holding you
652
00:33:54,880 --> 00:33:56,560
back from elevating.
653
00:33:56,560 --> 00:33:59,240
Yeah, right?
654
00:33:59,240 --> 00:34:04,240
That's what's holding you back from being able to raise your vibration and frequency to
655
00:34:04,240 --> 00:34:06,960
a level of complete and utter peace.
656
00:34:06,960 --> 00:34:07,960
Yeah.
657
00:34:07,960 --> 00:34:14,440
So it's almost like, and I'm just internalizing it for myself, but for me, as I'm hearing
658
00:34:14,440 --> 00:34:19,520
what Pamela was saying, to me, it was more like, forgive yourself for this stuff that you
659
00:34:19,520 --> 00:34:21,400
have endured in the past.
660
00:34:21,400 --> 00:34:24,600
You don't have to suffer through that anymore because you've learned a lesson and you move
661
00:34:24,600 --> 00:34:26,520
forward and now you can elevate yourself.
662
00:34:26,520 --> 00:34:27,520
Yeah, exactly.
663
00:34:27,520 --> 00:34:31,440
And you literally just summed up your message that you're about to get.
664
00:34:31,440 --> 00:34:32,440
Oh, nice.
665
00:34:32,440 --> 00:34:33,440
I know.
666
00:34:33,440 --> 00:34:34,440
I don't know.
667
00:34:34,440 --> 00:34:35,440
Okay.
668
00:34:35,440 --> 00:34:37,360
So this is this whole world to me.
669
00:34:37,360 --> 00:34:41,520
I'm still diving in and showing courage to be able to like put these messages out publicly
670
00:34:41,520 --> 00:34:44,640
because I'm still learning it.
671
00:34:44,640 --> 00:34:49,120
I get like shy about getting so specific with things, but every time I just push and power
672
00:34:49,120 --> 00:34:52,160
through it, it always works out somehow.
673
00:34:52,160 --> 00:34:57,520
But they use words that just like they use the example of jazz music, the music references
674
00:34:57,520 --> 00:34:59,000
because they know who you are.
675
00:34:59,000 --> 00:35:01,080
They know how you understand and learn.
676
00:35:01,080 --> 00:35:04,320
They use words that will resonate within you.
677
00:35:04,320 --> 00:35:09,960
I always say, just take this for face value, what you hear, open your mind, don't just apply
678
00:35:09,960 --> 00:35:11,440
what you think something means.
679
00:35:11,440 --> 00:35:15,000
Go look at the words again and read it like you just explained.
680
00:35:15,000 --> 00:35:17,680
So I find it fascinating when they use specific words.
681
00:35:17,680 --> 00:35:20,520
They started out by calling you a dynamo.
682
00:35:20,520 --> 00:35:23,160
Now, that's not a word that I use either.
683
00:35:23,160 --> 00:35:25,040
So I think it's really cool.
684
00:35:25,040 --> 00:35:29,680
So they go from dynamic, you know, they go from the dynamic intervention into dynamo.
685
00:35:29,680 --> 00:35:33,560
So to them, it's very, very important and strategic.
686
00:35:33,560 --> 00:35:34,560
Okay?
687
00:35:34,560 --> 00:35:35,560
All right.
688
00:35:35,560 --> 00:35:37,560
I'm going to get dramatic.
689
00:35:37,560 --> 00:35:38,560
Dynamo.
690
00:35:38,560 --> 00:35:39,560
It's the next.
691
00:35:39,560 --> 00:35:42,440
The will is a dynamo.
692
00:35:42,440 --> 00:35:43,440
A dynamo.
693
00:35:43,440 --> 00:35:45,480
Oh, and one more thing.
694
00:35:45,480 --> 00:35:47,200
They did something different with me.
695
00:35:47,200 --> 00:35:48,520
They showed me things.
696
00:35:48,520 --> 00:35:50,080
They moved my hands.
697
00:35:50,080 --> 00:35:52,080
They're getting very expressive.
698
00:35:52,080 --> 00:35:57,240
So I typed that out so that you can understand what I was experiencing while I was typing
699
00:35:57,240 --> 00:35:58,240
the message.
700
00:35:58,240 --> 00:35:59,240
Okay?
701
00:35:59,240 --> 00:36:00,240
Okay.
702
00:36:00,240 --> 00:36:05,960
Use this word, they said, "Special in his ability to connect with others in a sincere and
703
00:36:05,960 --> 00:36:10,640
authentic way on the search for truth and discovery.
704
00:36:10,640 --> 00:36:13,400
He is to release the fair, haired one.
705
00:36:13,400 --> 00:36:16,800
Let it go for it is not serving his highest purpose.
706
00:36:16,800 --> 00:36:21,680
It is the highest request that he honor himself and his beloved, but this is not his highest
707
00:36:21,680 --> 00:36:23,800
and truest calling.
708
00:36:23,800 --> 00:36:27,360
Be one with the ways of your future will.
709
00:36:27,360 --> 00:36:28,800
Be one with them.
710
00:36:28,800 --> 00:36:33,720
You have journeyed your entire life looking for answers outside of yourself.
711
00:36:33,720 --> 00:36:37,520
For you are to go now within your being.
712
00:36:37,520 --> 00:36:40,680
Search within yourself for the answers.
713
00:36:40,680 --> 00:36:43,080
Sit with yourself and look within.
714
00:36:43,080 --> 00:36:46,160
You are the keeper of all that exists.
715
00:36:46,160 --> 00:36:49,360
Assist where there is alignment.
716
00:36:49,360 --> 00:36:51,480
Then I am being pulled up and to the left.
717
00:36:51,480 --> 00:36:53,760
I felt like I was being pulled up and to the left.
718
00:36:53,760 --> 00:36:58,760
I felt like my keyboard was shifted and I was being sucked up and to the left.
719
00:36:58,760 --> 00:37:01,920
Then I saw a green light before my eyes.
720
00:37:01,920 --> 00:37:07,080
We sit around you will in glory and gratitude for your work.
721
00:37:07,080 --> 00:37:09,720
Be it knowledge-based or wonderment.
722
00:37:09,720 --> 00:37:12,280
It is unveiling the truth.
723
00:37:12,280 --> 00:37:17,960
Slowly over time each guest is triggering a stitch in the blanket that he is creating.
724
00:37:17,960 --> 00:37:23,480
If you are not for there are many, many beings around you will at all times.
725
00:37:23,480 --> 00:37:25,120
Do you feel us at night?
726
00:37:25,120 --> 00:37:26,920
Do you feel our presence?
727
00:37:26,920 --> 00:37:28,800
Then there was a green before my eyes.
728
00:37:28,800 --> 00:37:30,080
This never happens.
729
00:37:30,080 --> 00:37:31,600
It was really cool.
730
00:37:31,600 --> 00:37:32,880
Then I heard the word "gloria".
731
00:37:32,880 --> 00:37:35,120
I don't know what that means.
732
00:37:35,120 --> 00:37:36,880
Then I heard the word "Peter".
733
00:37:36,880 --> 00:37:38,720
I don't know what that means.
734
00:37:38,720 --> 00:37:41,720
Then I heard the word "noah".
735
00:37:41,720 --> 00:37:43,240
One that looks for your attention.
736
00:37:43,240 --> 00:37:45,880
That could be a guide.
737
00:37:45,880 --> 00:37:49,760
They could all be guides to the left, to the left.
738
00:37:49,760 --> 00:37:53,280
There is one that sits with you looking for your attention.
739
00:37:53,280 --> 00:37:57,960
As I turn my head to the left, there is a teal color there, to the right there is white
740
00:37:57,960 --> 00:37:59,120
and yellow.
741
00:37:59,120 --> 00:38:02,040
In front it is whole and good.
742
00:38:02,040 --> 00:38:06,200
Be strong and know that you have the strength to dive deeper.
743
00:38:06,200 --> 00:38:11,600
Elevating the planet with your soul's purpose of communication, the frequency of your voice
744
00:38:11,600 --> 00:38:19,080
tells all that there is another way of thinking, of being, of seeing and living in this three
745
00:38:19,080 --> 00:38:20,080
dimensional life.
746
00:38:20,080 --> 00:38:24,760
Now they use that three dimensional life and then I went to listen to your podcast again
747
00:38:24,760 --> 00:38:28,320
and you close out with that little saying, "All the time."
748
00:38:28,320 --> 00:38:31,320
I was like, "Yeah, I love that stuff."
749
00:38:31,320 --> 00:38:39,680
I'm actually struggling a little bit because I never want to show emotion that clearly,
750
00:38:39,680 --> 00:38:41,920
but I'm having a hard time fighting back tears.
751
00:38:41,920 --> 00:38:46,440
For some reason, I'm looking forward to reading this message again because there is a lot
752
00:38:46,440 --> 00:38:48,840
that you're saying that makes sense.
753
00:38:48,840 --> 00:38:53,240
But people hear the message and they assume one thing when I'm getting a completely different
754
00:38:53,240 --> 00:38:56,680
message that makes so much perfect sense to me.
755
00:38:56,680 --> 00:38:58,200
I'm glad I'm so glad.
756
00:38:58,200 --> 00:39:00,280
I'm so, so, so, so glad.
757
00:39:00,280 --> 00:39:06,080
I feel like there is a young boy and I don't know why or what that means.
758
00:39:06,080 --> 00:39:09,320
I feel like there is a young, I feel like that is the fairhared.
759
00:39:09,320 --> 00:39:11,640
It is a young boy and I don't know what that is.
760
00:39:11,640 --> 00:39:16,960
I don't know if it's a guide, if it's, I don't know.
761
00:39:16,960 --> 00:39:21,320
So I can only tell you that and I told Lisa that and she was like, "Whoa, I don't know what
762
00:39:21,320 --> 00:39:22,320
that is either."
763
00:39:22,320 --> 00:39:26,080
So you take it and you make it what it is and look at the words and figure that out for
764
00:39:26,080 --> 00:39:29,360
yourself, but I'm happy that I could get you a message.
765
00:39:29,360 --> 00:39:30,360
Yeah.
766
00:39:30,360 --> 00:39:31,360
That was it.
767
00:39:31,360 --> 00:39:32,360
Thank you.
768
00:39:32,360 --> 00:39:33,360
You're welcome.
769
00:39:33,360 --> 00:39:34,360
You're welcome.
770
00:39:34,360 --> 00:39:35,360
You're welcome.
771
00:39:35,360 --> 00:39:36,360
Well, it was exciting.
772
00:39:36,360 --> 00:39:40,000
I've actually been on Spirit Calling on your portal and I saw, I mean, a very first thing
773
00:39:40,000 --> 00:39:46,360
that we should talk about right away, you actually have this downloadable thing which gives
774
00:39:46,360 --> 00:39:48,840
you the top five symptoms for awakening.
775
00:39:48,840 --> 00:39:49,840
Yes.
776
00:39:49,840 --> 00:39:54,360
You download it and then you go through and you can check it off so you know whether you're
777
00:39:54,360 --> 00:39:58,840
awakening or not and it looks like I'm about halfway there.
778
00:39:58,840 --> 00:40:01,080
What are the symptoms?
779
00:40:01,080 --> 00:40:05,080
Well, so, it means there's some of them.
780
00:40:05,080 --> 00:40:10,040
The five are, you're drawn to holistic and alternative ways of healing which we know we are,
781
00:40:10,040 --> 00:40:11,040
Karen.
782
00:40:11,040 --> 00:40:15,160
We're sensitive to certain foods and chemicals which again, I mean, we'll talk about it
783
00:40:15,160 --> 00:40:16,160
all the time.
784
00:40:16,160 --> 00:40:18,520
The inability to consume alcohol and drugs.
785
00:40:18,520 --> 00:40:19,920
Now here's who gets interesting.
786
00:40:19,920 --> 00:40:24,480
You can suffer from disinist headaches and anxiety and then you less tolerate certain people
787
00:40:24,480 --> 00:40:25,480
and behaviors.
788
00:40:25,480 --> 00:40:28,840
You say check and check.
789
00:40:28,840 --> 00:40:30,320
Across the board.
790
00:40:30,320 --> 00:40:35,280
So if you're feeling any of these five, first do yourself a favor and go to the website
791
00:40:35,280 --> 00:40:37,520
and we're going to add a direct link on our show notes.
792
00:40:37,520 --> 00:40:39,760
So go to skepticandvisition.com and hit that link.
793
00:40:39,760 --> 00:40:43,280
Go to their Spirit Calling website and you can download this for yourself so you can take
794
00:40:43,280 --> 00:40:48,800
a look and see and then explore around because there's a lot that you are going to look
795
00:40:48,800 --> 00:40:51,040
towards, driving deeper into it.
796
00:40:51,040 --> 00:40:55,760
And we offer seven days so you can go in and you can check things out and you can go
797
00:40:55,760 --> 00:40:56,760
see what's going on.
798
00:40:56,760 --> 00:40:58,360
Yeah, it's awesome.
799
00:40:58,360 --> 00:41:00,920
You have to experience it to understand it.
800
00:41:00,920 --> 00:41:02,280
And there's two different sections.
801
00:41:02,280 --> 00:41:05,800
It's for people who are doing the searches and for people who are already on the path
802
00:41:05,800 --> 00:41:10,120
and are actually healers themselves, they can join in your community as well in that capacity.
803
00:41:10,120 --> 00:41:14,600
So it's really interesting whether you are a seeker or a teacher, you've got a place there.
804
00:41:14,600 --> 00:41:15,600
All right.
805
00:41:15,600 --> 00:41:22,800
Well, you have given us a lot to mull over and if you get a calling to hear Spirit Calling,
806
00:41:22,800 --> 00:41:25,840
I would urge you to go to the website and figure whether the portal that community
807
00:41:25,840 --> 00:41:26,840
is for you.
808
00:41:26,840 --> 00:41:31,120
And I would say if you're listening to the show, it probably is because it seems that we're
809
00:41:31,120 --> 00:41:33,240
pretty well aligned in our mission.
810
00:41:33,240 --> 00:41:38,160
So is there anything that you're called to share with our audience before we leave?
811
00:41:38,160 --> 00:41:39,160
Yeah.
812
00:41:39,160 --> 00:41:40,400
Thank you.
813
00:41:40,400 --> 00:41:46,480
It's and it's specific to that.
814
00:41:46,480 --> 00:41:48,760
You're not crazy.
815
00:41:48,760 --> 00:41:53,400
You're not crazy for thinking that you're different from the rest of the world.
816
00:41:53,400 --> 00:41:58,520
You're not you're not alone in what you're experiencing.
817
00:41:58,520 --> 00:42:05,600
That one that makes me wonder if I feel the sorrow and confusion that people are going
818
00:42:05,600 --> 00:42:06,600
through.
819
00:42:06,600 --> 00:42:11,280
And so when you're sitting when you're sitting in a bar and you're going, I don't feel
820
00:42:11,280 --> 00:42:13,760
like having a drink anymore, but everybody's doing it.
821
00:42:13,760 --> 00:42:16,600
So I want to fit in.
822
00:42:16,600 --> 00:42:21,120
It's those moments sitting at a restaurant and everybody's eating all this fried food
823
00:42:21,120 --> 00:42:26,560
and I actually am sick to my stomach looking at it, but I'll do it to fit in.
824
00:42:26,560 --> 00:42:31,520
It's all of those moments where you're trying really hard to fit.
825
00:42:31,520 --> 00:42:40,400
Please hit pause on your life and discern for yourself what feels right, what feels good,
826
00:42:40,400 --> 00:42:41,840
what brings you peace.
827
00:42:41,840 --> 00:42:49,760
If you're a man, people who make you feel stressed, bring out your anxiety, then that is not
828
00:42:49,760 --> 00:42:52,040
bringing you peace in your life.
829
00:42:52,040 --> 00:42:56,360
It's bringing chaos into your life and getting you farther and farther away from peace.
830
00:42:56,360 --> 00:43:03,200
You're desensitizing yourself to peace and that's the problem as a whole that humanity is
831
00:43:03,200 --> 00:43:04,720
facing right now.
832
00:43:04,720 --> 00:43:08,800
We desensitized our reaction to peace.
833
00:43:08,800 --> 00:43:10,760
We actually think there's something wrong with us.
834
00:43:10,760 --> 00:43:14,440
Like I'm so bored, I need to be entertained all the time, sitting in silence, it makes
835
00:43:14,440 --> 00:43:15,440
me insane, right?
836
00:43:15,440 --> 00:43:16,440
And can't meditate.
837
00:43:16,440 --> 00:43:21,040
It's plenty of ways that you can go about doing different things.
838
00:43:21,040 --> 00:43:25,400
Dissearn for yourself what makes you feel at peace.
839
00:43:25,400 --> 00:43:30,720
But that is a message that just keeps repeating, repeating, repeating.
840
00:43:30,720 --> 00:43:35,960
There typically when there's a certain vibration that needs to come through on a certain word,
841
00:43:35,960 --> 00:43:39,560
that frequency, that word has to get repeated, repeated, repeated.
842
00:43:39,560 --> 00:43:44,880
So then keep telling me, keep saying peace, peace, peace, peace, peace and the message of
843
00:43:44,880 --> 00:43:46,880
you are not alone alone.
844
00:43:46,880 --> 00:43:47,880
Yeah.
845
00:43:47,880 --> 00:43:48,880
That's the big thing.
846
00:43:48,880 --> 00:43:52,640
Feel you resonate with being alone for battery.
847
00:43:52,640 --> 00:43:53,640
Yeah.
848
00:43:53,640 --> 00:43:56,600
Right like the battery.
849
00:43:56,600 --> 00:43:58,840
They're telling you that it's the opposite.
850
00:43:58,840 --> 00:43:59,920
Go for the opposite.
851
00:43:59,920 --> 00:44:00,920
Go for the opposite.
852
00:44:00,920 --> 00:44:04,960
If you tell yourself, I am not alone, then go for the opposite.
853
00:44:04,960 --> 00:44:05,960
I am surrounded.
854
00:44:05,960 --> 00:44:10,400
I am supported and just start following what brings you peace.
855
00:44:10,400 --> 00:44:11,400
Yeah.
856
00:44:11,400 --> 00:44:12,600
Just follow the breadcrumbs.
857
00:44:12,600 --> 00:44:14,840
Just come over and just do it.
858
00:44:14,840 --> 00:44:16,760
Like this is what I tell everybody.
859
00:44:16,760 --> 00:44:19,800
Stop looking at fear and letting it keep you by.
860
00:44:19,800 --> 00:44:20,800
Step over it.
861
00:44:20,800 --> 00:44:21,800
Step through it.
862
00:44:21,800 --> 00:44:22,800
Push through it.
863
00:44:22,800 --> 00:44:23,800
Just do it.
864
00:44:23,800 --> 00:44:24,800
And you won't know why.
865
00:44:24,800 --> 00:44:26,600
You don't always have to have the answer.
866
00:44:26,600 --> 00:44:27,600
Just try it.
867
00:44:27,600 --> 00:44:28,600
There's fun there.
868
00:44:28,600 --> 00:44:29,600
There's opportunity there.
869
00:44:29,600 --> 00:44:30,600
There's excitement there.
870
00:44:30,600 --> 00:44:35,040
There's a whole new world, whole new way of being, new friends, new everything.
871
00:44:35,040 --> 00:44:37,040
And that's what happens when you have a spiritual awakening.
872
00:44:37,040 --> 00:44:38,040
Isn't that exciting?
873
00:44:38,040 --> 00:44:39,040
Yeah.
874
00:44:39,040 --> 00:44:40,040
No doubt about it.
875
00:44:40,040 --> 00:44:44,680
I can say from first-hand experience that it is a brave new world and it's exciting
876
00:44:44,680 --> 00:44:45,680
new world.
877
00:44:45,680 --> 00:44:49,960
As you, everyone who listens to the show knows how skeptical I was of all this stuff.
878
00:44:49,960 --> 00:44:54,720
But as your message came through loud and clear, every guest is another stitch in the
879
00:44:54,720 --> 00:44:55,720
fabric.
880
00:44:55,720 --> 00:44:58,040
That's exactly what Karen and I talk about all the time.
881
00:44:58,040 --> 00:45:03,840
That in the last two, almost three years that we've been doing the show, we've grown exponentially
882
00:45:03,840 --> 00:45:08,560
because the messages that we're getting from our guests are helping us.
883
00:45:08,560 --> 00:45:11,960
And from what we hear, they're helping others that are listening to the show.
884
00:45:11,960 --> 00:45:12,960
Yeah.
885
00:45:12,960 --> 00:45:16,800
And you guys so much for coming and sharing your expertise and your experience, Karen,
886
00:45:16,800 --> 00:45:18,040
you had something you wanted to say.
887
00:45:18,040 --> 00:45:21,680
No, I was just going to say something that we do here from time to time is people saying
888
00:45:21,680 --> 00:45:25,960
thank you for making me not think I'm the only one that thinks this way or not feeling
889
00:45:25,960 --> 00:45:26,960
like I'm alone.
890
00:45:26,960 --> 00:45:29,720
So that is a very important message to put out there.
891
00:45:29,720 --> 00:45:30,720
Absolutely.
892
00:45:30,720 --> 00:45:34,960
And thank you guys for doing your work to help.
893
00:45:34,960 --> 00:45:35,960
We're both doing this.
894
00:45:35,960 --> 00:45:37,840
We're all doing the same thing here.
895
00:45:37,840 --> 00:45:38,840
Yeah.
896
00:45:38,840 --> 00:45:40,080
We're all trying to raise the vibrations of the planet.
897
00:45:40,080 --> 00:45:42,440
So thank you guys for coming on.
898
00:45:42,440 --> 00:45:43,440
Thank you for doing everything with us.
899
00:45:43,440 --> 00:45:46,640
I look forward to staying in contact with you because I'm definitely going to join Spirit
900
00:45:46,640 --> 00:45:48,640
calling and I urge you all to do the same.
901
00:45:48,640 --> 00:45:49,640
We'll see each other there.
902
00:45:49,640 --> 00:45:50,640
Yeah.
903
00:45:50,640 --> 00:45:51,640
Okay.
904
00:45:51,640 --> 00:45:52,640
See you on Saturday.
905
00:45:52,640 --> 00:45:55,640
Thanks for coming along on this journey of discovery with us.
906
00:45:55,640 --> 00:46:01,400
We'd love to continue our conversation with you on our website at skepticmedevisition.com
907
00:46:01,400 --> 00:46:05,680
or on Facebook and Instagram under skepticmedevisition.com.
908
00:46:05,680 --> 00:46:09,480
If you know someone who would benefit from hearing the messages we're sharing on the show, do
909
00:46:09,480 --> 00:46:13,000
them an us a favor and share the show with them.
910
00:46:13,000 --> 00:46:17,880
It will help get the word out about us and it may just change someone's life for the
911
00:46:17,880 --> 00:46:18,880
better.
912
00:46:18,880 --> 00:46:21,240
And if you're listening to this on the radio you missed something.
913
00:46:21,240 --> 00:46:22,240
Not to worry.
914
00:46:22,240 --> 00:46:26,640
All of our shows including this one can be found at skepticmedevisition.com.
915
00:46:26,640 --> 00:46:31,480
We can also watch the videos where you can send us an email or voice mail directly from
916
00:46:31,480 --> 00:46:32,480
the site.
917
00:46:32,480 --> 00:46:37,200
We absolutely love feedback and would appreciate hearing from you.
918
00:46:37,200 --> 00:46:40,880
I hope you've enjoyed this episode as much as we have it off now.
919
00:46:40,880 --> 00:46:45,000
We'll see you on the next episode of the skepticmedevisitions.
920
00:46:45,000 --> 00:46:46,400
Until then, take care.
921
00:46:46,400 --> 00:46:48,980
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