Psychic Self-Defense: How to Protect Your Energy From the People Who Are Draining It

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Karen, I finally have a name for your ex.

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Oh, I have lots of names.

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You have nobody to have the definitive name.

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Okay, and energy vampire.

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Oh, well, that's nice, but yes.

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That's a nice name.

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But apparently, it's a real thing actually.

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And apparently, there are people walking around right now who could drain your life force

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energy, literally, just by,

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And that is a good name for him.

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Just by being in the same room with you.

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Yeah, I thought so.

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This honestly explains a lot about the holidays.

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Mm-hmm.

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But here's where it gets good.

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Our guest today has been a psychic and energy healer for over 30 years.

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And she says, not only can you identify these people, you can actually defend yourself

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against them.

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Yes, there is a whole system, psychic self-defense.

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Ooh, I like that.

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I know me, too, which sounds like something.

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I've heard of those belts, like a black belt.

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Oh, you know what?

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We'll have to ask about that.

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That's a great question.

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And so psychic self-defense sounds like something I might have invented after watching too many

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Marvel movies, but I absolutely didn't.

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See, she's also going to break down the difference between your intuition and your anxiety

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because apparently they feel almost identical and you've been listening to the wrong one

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your entire life.

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Are you playing at me?

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Well, because I can't say it's me.

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So it's gotta be you.

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She calls it building an army of healers.

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And if that sounds intense, good, because it is.

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So if you've ever wondered whether your gut instinct is actually real guidance or just that

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burrito you had for lunch, stay right where you are because today we digest that question,

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see what it did there and give you the answers you've been waiting for.

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The scutting revisions starts now.

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My name is Will and I'm Karen.

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And unlike Mulder and Scully, both want to believe.

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So we've embarked on a journey of discovery.

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We've talked to people deeply entrenched in the spiritual and metaphysical world.

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We've thrown ourselves into weird and wonderful experiences.

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I even joined a covenant with you.

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And wait, you joined a covenant?

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Yep, all in the interest of fighting something.

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Anything.

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That will prove that there's something beyond this physical three-dimensional world we

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all live in.

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This is the skeptic metaphysicians.

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Hey there, it's Will just stepping in here for a second to ask you for a favor.

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The main reason we do this show is to help others in their spiritual awakening and nothing

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makes us happier than to hear or read messages from those that are resonating with the messages

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we're sharing on the show.

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Karen and I love hearing from those that are moved to message us.

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It truly does fuel our passion.

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You are the reason we do this show.

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And knowing what you like and don't like, we're not even going to help us craft the very

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best show we can so that we can help raise the vibration of the planet together.

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Okay, I've kept you from the interview long enough, so let's get to it.

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Thanks for listening.

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Hey there, I'm Will.

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Welcome back to the skeptic metaphysicians where we ask every question your therapist is too

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licensed to touch.

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Look, we've had a lot of guests on this show who deal in the invisible, the unexplained

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and I can't prove this but I've seen it with my own eyes kind of thing.

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Today's guest though, she might be the one who actually hands us a toolkit.

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Hey.

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Lisa Campion has spent over 30 years teaching people, regular people, not just the ones that

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who were born knowing things, how to develop their psychic abilities, how to protect their

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energy and how to stop letting the emotional black holes in their lives quietly hollow them

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out.

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She's a raky master teacher, a psychic counselor, an author and the host of her own podcast.

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She's also the kind of person who will say something completely wild and then back it up so

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thoroughly that you forget that you were ever skeptical, which as you may have noticed

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is kind of a thing.

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She's not here to convince us of anything.

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She's here to show us what's possible when you stop treating your intuition like a glitch

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and start treating it like a feature Lisa Campion.

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Welcome to the show.

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Well, thanks so much for having me here.

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I'm so glad to be with you both today.

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We're glad to have you and Lisa before we start.

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I just want you to know.

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If you read my energy right now, whatever it is that you're picking up is not my fault.

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That's just Friday energy.

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Okay.

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Just so we're clear.

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Let us in.

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All right.

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That's fair.

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Okay.

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So I just want to dive right in like we always do.

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Energy vampires.

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Just the word makes me cringe.

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What are we talking about here?

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We're talking about people who for the most part don't know they're doing it.

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Some do.

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We just don't know how to get their needs met.

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Don't know how, no one ever taught them how to sort of source their energy.

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So and I mean, I think that until we learn how to do that, we can all be guilty of stealing

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energy from other people.

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You know, I think it's, it can be a process more than a particular type of person sometimes.

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But surely you've been around people.

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Sounds like you have.

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You know, you just feel tired.

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You feel drained.

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You know, they're not really contributing.

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They're taking so that takers of the world.

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And we can call them energy vampires, psychic vampires.

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We can call them narcissists.

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They have a lot of different names.

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And they tend to be attracted to sensitive people, you know?

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So empaths sensitive, highly sensitive people.

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There's tends to be like a little dance going on between, you know, energy vampires and

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empaths.

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And it's really important if you, I think it's important for everybody to figure out who

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those people are and get some good psychic self defense, but especially if you're sensitive

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because you're going to be.

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And energy vampire magnet.

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And you need to know how to do some, you know, spiritual kung fu there.

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Yeah, that makes so much sense.

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Yeah.

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And because I have so many people that just, you know, they're nice, but it's exhausting

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to spend time with them.

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And you're just like, when they leave, like, yeah, yeah, yeah, my only question, why, why

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are you looking at me the whole time she was talking there?

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I don't know.

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And so at least what does an energy vampire look like out in the wild?

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Like, how can you tell?

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No, why?

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Who would hide their acts?

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There's a couple of different types of them.

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The scary type is the super predatory narcissistic flavor.

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And you know, we all kind of sort of psychopathic types.

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And we can, you know, I'm sure we've all had a hit and run with those folks at some point.

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And they're pretty deliberate in choosing sort of a victim and then sucking the life out

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of them.

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Or energy, your time, your money, your credit, the gas in the car, the food in the fridge,

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like whatever is yours, they think is theirs.

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And they're sort of ruthless about taking and not giving.

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And then when you sort of set boundaries and dry up the source, they just kind of ruthlessly

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cut their ties and move on to somebody else who's going to fill that role.

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And you know, there's been a lot of studies and studies in psychology these days and they

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say that, you know, there's a certain percentage of the population that fall into the psychopathic

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category.

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You kind of put them on the, you know, narcissist continuum, which starts with like narcissistic

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tendencies and goes all the way to like psychopath.

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And you know, they're out there and we have to be careful just like there's sharks women

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in, you know, Massachusetts Bay.

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We have to be careful about finding that these sharks, they're pretty predatory people.

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Yeah, that was one of those sharks were.

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I just reminded you of a neighbor that we used to have a long time ago when we first kept

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here.

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Oh, yes.

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Is that not just perfect?

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Yeah, they also happen to have a medicine.

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They also happen to have a serial killer daughter that, you know, or a future serial killer.

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And look that way.

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No, no, you're right.

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I forgot about that.

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Yeah, I think everyone that, but it was just to us.

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Yeah, it was like they, they, they let her, they put them, they just like all those things.

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So okay, we have identified what these creatures are like.

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How do we defend against them?

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It sort of depends on what kind you're dealing with because there's also the victim vampire

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and the victim vampires are, they're not predatory, but they just sort of get by in the world

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by leaning into their helplessness.

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And you know, they're like, I can't do it.

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We do it for me.

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And a lot of times they have, they really do have things that are troublesome or difficult

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to deal with, but they kind of cash in on that as their way to get through the world, you

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know, more her.

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That might have been more.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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And they, they just call, you know, that person who calls and talks, talks for an hour without

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giving you a chance to say anything and they could plane about the same thing over and

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over again and never take your advice because they're not, they don't really want to change.

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They're a bit addicted to the drama, drama cycle.

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And I think no matter what kind of energy vampire you're dealing with, the answer is we have

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to set boundaries.

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So we have to learn to say no.

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We have to say, you know, I think is a sensitive, pathic type person.

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We just need a lot of really nice ways to say no.

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Nice.

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No, thank you.

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Or, you know, sometimes we have to be nice.

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Sometimes we have to firm it up and really be like, absolutely no.

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Deciding how much we are willing to give.

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And then when you've hit that point, you have to, you have to pull out and say no.

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And that's really hard.

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It's really hard to learn how to set boundaries.

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Most of us aren't very good at it.

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So that's what the answer is.

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The more you're talking, the more I realize how many of these people are out there because

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now I'm going, oh, that could be that one.

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Oh, not going to, oh, and that one is going to go, oh my god, we are surrounded.

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We are.

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There's a lot of that going on these days.

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So then let's flip it on the other side.

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How do you know then that you are an empath versus someone who just cares too much?

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Empaths often care too much, but empaths have like a tendency to literally absorb the energy

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they're around.

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So that might be the feelings, the physical pain, the thoughts, the energy of the people

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around you.

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So let's say you sit on an airplane and the person next to you is suffering from a

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might green or they don't feel good or they're really anxious.

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And then 10 minutes later you're like, oh my god, I have a might green.

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I don't feel good.

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I'm really anxious.

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You absorb that energy and you're feeling that as if it's your feelings, you're not just

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noticing, right?

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You're like, oh, that's now me.

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That's my experience in the moment.

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That's like sponges, sometimes called psych expunges, empaths, absorb and experience.

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But what other people are?

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I think it's a gift and it's a gift that's given to healer types.

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So it's like having like a built in MRI X-ray machine, you know, where you can feel what's

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going on.

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And then if you know, if you're in a position to do some help, help that person, you know

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what to do, right?

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But it can be, it can really feel like a curse until we learn how to manage our energy.

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All right.

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I think there's a, there's a medical term for those types of people, isn't it?

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Like someone has a migraine and somebody they have a migraine.

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It's a, that's not psychosomatic, but there's a, dang, I was really relying on you to know

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what I'm talking about.

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All right.

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I'm going to drop an edit point here so I can pull this out.

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Okay.

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Anyway, so you can be an empath and not realize it.

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Can you be an end-reve vampire and not realize it?

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Yeah.

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Lots of people don't realize it.

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They don't, you know, the predatory types, I think, do, they're kind of like con

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artists, you know, they can be very like, consciously manipulative.

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They're doing an over-epic.

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But I think a lot of times energy vampires don't know.

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We can also be like a sort of situational energy vampire, which is you're not having an

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easy time in your life.

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Something happens.

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You have, you're sick, you have a diagnosis, you're going through something, you went through

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a divorce and break up and for that moment, you don't know how to resource yourself,

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take care of yourself and we kind of lean hard into the people around us.

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And that's fine.

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We all go through phases like that.

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You know, so it's just part of human nature.

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But I think so many people, and sometimes the worst offenders are other empaths.

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You know, like if you let, if you have a lot of energy vampires around you and you just

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let them drain you to the point where you, you know, you're so drained, you got nothing,

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you might become an energy vampire.

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So we all have to sort of watch out that we're managing our energy and not becoming

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that way too.

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Right.

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Now a long time ago, I wrote a book called The Celestein Prophecy.

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And in the Celestein Prophecy, there's one of the insights was this energy exchange between

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people and they would, all these people would sit and everyone would pay attention to one

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person and they would be sending that person their energy and then they would, they would

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change it up.

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But inevitably, there's like this, this draw plants are great at that.

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If you send them energy, they'll send it back to you, that kind of thing.

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So it sounds like this, they did talk in the book about the fact that those that drain your

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energy are those that are disconnected from that energy, the universal energy.

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So is there something, if there is someone listening to this right now, we're watching

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and something that going, oh my God, I think I might be an energy man, but is there something

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that they can do to reconnect their connection with the universal energies that, so that

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it would prevent them from stealing someone else's energy and rather be fulfilled on the

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own?

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I think we need to learn how to, there's two really.

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The universal source is we have the energy of the earth.

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So the earth has its own energy, it's called the light of the earth and we can learn how

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to pull that energy up from our energetic roots into our body.

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And then we, of course, we have divine energy, source energy that we can pull down into our

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system.

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So we can learn how to do that.

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I think we can learn raky.

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It's why a lot of times I recommend that I'm asked to learn raky because it just makes

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an easier connection to that universal life or synergy.

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And then I think we have to be very committed to our self-care, you know, like what do you do

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in your life that fills your energy tank?

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Maybe it's resting, sleeping, but oftentimes it's having fun, playing, doing creative things.

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You know what things you do in your life that like you might do some work that drains you

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or pay your taxes that drains you, but you know if you do your favorite things, it's going

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to add to your energy.

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So I think some of itself care and some of it's just good energy hygiene, energy management

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practices are very important here.

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So now what if kind of on the flip side of what you asked, what if you know someone who's

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an energy vampire and you know that they don't know it, you know that they're not intentional,

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they're kind of going through stuff, is there something you can do to help them like run?

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Run.

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Like, run.

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Run away.

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Run away or something.

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You know, is there something you can do?

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I think you decide how much you're willing to give and then you stick to your boundary,

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you know?

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And then we, I mean, maybe you could teach them or talk to them about it if they're open

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to having that conversation, you know, you should take better care of yourself.

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Maybe you should, you know, do some fun things, you know?

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But I think we, there's a big red flag that happens when we know we're overgiving and

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that that's when we feel resentful.

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So resentment is like a major red flag.

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If you have a relationship situation that's going on in your life where you feel a lot

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of resentment, that's a sign to you that you need to back, back it up, reset your boundary

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and you're giving more than you're receiving over a long, a longer period of time.

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Right.

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And I think at the end of the day, Karen, it's difficult to, like, you can't, you can't

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make someone change, right?

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You can only change yourself.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Raky then or something.

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Well, I'm sure Raky would probably help.

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And in fact, we talked about with the Sleshing Prof. C. Dulles, people would actively give

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their energy to that, to that particular person.

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So I read somewhere and maybe you can, you can confirm this or tell me how I'm totally

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off the mark.

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Or that if you're feeling drained, someone's draining your energy, then perhaps by giving it

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to them of your free will, will help them recharge without depleting yourself.

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Is that sounds right?

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It's possible.

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I mean, that's the point of Raky.

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And I think while Raky makes this easy is that when we're doing Raky, we're not using our

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personal energy, where you're connecting to this universal life force.

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We're getting, you know, it's sort of like turning on the faucet and having, you know,

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you're getting filled with that universal life force.

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And then sending that instead of your own energy, the problem is when we send our own energy,

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I see this happen a lot with like massage therapists and hair, you know, dressers, people

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who have their hands on people a lot.

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If you're an empath and you have your hands on people, you're going to give without knowing

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you're giving your own vitality, your own life force essence.

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And our personal vitality sort of like blood, we have a limited supply.

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And when you give it away, you have to like remake it.

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And that's why learning Raky can be so helpful for people in those situations because you connect

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to the energy of Raky and then you're not giving your own life force energy or you're giving

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kind of this unlimited supply, you know, instead.

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And it's much less likely that you'll be drained that way.

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Right.

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Wow.

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So I have never heard that it, like you said, like it's like blood.

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I mean, I've never asked anybody, but it's just like the first time I've heard that, how

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do you remake it?

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The spiritual bone marrow, of course.

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Pretty much.

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Yeah.

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That's a great answer.

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And it would be like spiritual practice, meditation, prayer.

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Prayer is also a thing you can do for other people that isn't going to drain you.

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You know, like I'm a strong, I'm not a particularly religious person, but I'm a very strong believer

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in prayer because I just think it works.

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It just absolutely does.

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So you can pray for that person and then you go back to those energy feeling techniques.

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Maybe you need to sleep.

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Maybe you need a good meal.

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You need to go play and, you know, do some gardening sitting in the sun can be very recharging.

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I'm getting a little sunlight on your skin eating really food that's full of life force energy,

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you know?

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But all the things that we do exercise, fresh air, like kind of clean, good clean living will

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over time recharge your energy.

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So we've talked about the setting, the boundaries and all that kind of stuff, but you teach

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something called psychic self defense.

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So it obviously goes way deeper than just set your boundaries.

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So what are we talking about here?

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I just like that term because I started my early life as a martial artist.

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I was, I just, I'm pretty sure it's just because when I was a kid, I really wanted to be

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a Jedi Knight.

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I was the only way I could figure out how to do it.

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I guess either you either a Jedi Knight or you're a Han Solo, right?

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So you had to be, I would.

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Jedi Knight.

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Yeah.

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I was, I was, I was fine enough for that.

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So I studied martial arts from, from at a young age.

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And so I kind of like that idea of, you know, spiritual kung fu.

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And it's a lot of energy practices that you can learn how to do breathing techniques and

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visualization techniques that we do to ground ourselves, get ourselves back in our body, clear

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our energy field when we pick up energy that doesn't belong to us and add another layer

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of protection into it.

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That's kind of the basic, you know, there's also, there's also, there's also, you know,

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those things you can use, you know, crystals, flower essences, things like tools that we can

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use to kind of level up our, our level of psychic self defense.

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And so for example, like I was in a hotel last night on, you know, for work.

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And hotels are always hard for me because a lot of, sometimes they're haunted and like Murphy's

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law put the psychic in the haunted hotel room.

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I'm, you know, and I'm like, okay, I go in there and you know all the things that happen

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in a hotel good and bad.

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It's just a lot of life that happens in hotel rooms.

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And to me, it's like, ew, like I walk in.

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I'm like, whoa, just all this other people's energy in there and it's kind of gross to me.

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So I travel with my little energy clearing kit and I'm out there like, you know, clearing

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the energy in the room, clearing any spooks that are hanging around just so I can have a good

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night's sleep and I consider it community service, you know, for the next people that are

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out there.

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What's happening is that why I don't sleep in hotels.

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Maybe.

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I need to care, Lisa, I need to get, I do, yeah, I'm hoping you're going to give me your

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kit or tell me what to get.

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Tell me what's in the kit so I can get it.

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I use some palo santo, you know, the wood that you burn, they'll bust you for smoking

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if you try to burn sage.

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It's just too, it smells too much like pot, you know, but palo santo, they don't, so

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I burn palo santo.

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I have a five twenty eight tuning life hack tip.

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Yep.

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Twenty eight tuning fork is just a little tuning fork, you know, five twenty eight and a hockey

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puck and you bang it on there and that goes away.

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Have these, you know, kind of sprays that I use that have different essential oils in

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their sage and you can spray, but you can't burn, you know.

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And then I, and then I just do my own like calling in the arc angels, calling in the higher

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powers, you know, setting up kind of some more light asking for some, you know, divine help

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from, from the angels and ascended masters to clear the space too.

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But and you know, that's what we can do.

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So a lot of times when we need psychic self defense, I want to say like 80% of the time

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we're defending ourselves against is the energy of other people.

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Most of the time that's what it is.

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Sometimes it's the places we occupy like the hotel room and sometimes it's spirits that

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don't have our best interest at heart, like what might be in the hot, you know, hotel

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room, you know, and you know, they're around there.

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We don't always have, you know, all angels and unicorns out there in psychic world.

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Sometimes we encounter darker energies.

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What?

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And oh yeah.

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And for sure.

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And so, you know, it's just a, to me, it's like just a fact of life because it's what I've

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seen over and over again for my entire life.

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And I don't freak out about it.

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I just kind of deal with it.

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You just clean it up, clean up on IL-5, you know.

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That's what we do.

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We don't, no need to get freaked out.

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Honestly, spirits have never scared me that much.

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Living people scare the heck out of me on a regular basis.

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Oh yeah, that's true.

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But, you know, I mean, spirits, you just like, where's the mop?

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You know, it's kind of more like--

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They can't really hurt you, right?

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So, yeah.

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No, they can't really hurt you.

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They can be uncomfortable and unpleasant.

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You kick for sure.

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But then that brings up another point in my mind anyway.

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You are a psychic.

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Yes.

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You pick up all these energies and looking at yourself.

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Have you ever done a reading for someone a psychic reading and suddenly wish you could

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unknow what you picked up?

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Quite frequently.

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Oh, no.

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Okay, we're not sitting together.

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[laughter]

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Quite frequently.

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I've done some, I've done some readings on it.

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Sometimes I see things that I are pretty bad trauma's people have been through and I mean,

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I started working as a psychic when I was 19 and I quickly learned I didn't have enough

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skills.

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So I went back to school and I came at therapist, you know?

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Oh wow.

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So it's just like being, you know, when you're a therapist you just hear everybody's trauma,

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you know?

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And it's really, it's really sad.

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It's really hard to, and it's nice to be able to help like I witnessed those things because

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I feel like it's helpful.

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And most of the time what I see is that, just people's trauma.

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Do you know what I mean?

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The things we've been to.

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Yeah.

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Maybe you've had a particularly gnarly past life that's a little tough to watch or, you

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know, sometimes people have entities attachments on them that are hard, you know, it's hard

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being a human on the planet.

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And I think almost all of that stems from trauma.

477
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But that's not, you know, I've been a therapist for almost 40 years now.

478
00:23:41,840 --> 00:23:48,440
So it's like, it's just that stuff we go through as humans.

479
00:23:48,440 --> 00:23:52,880
So I have a question about something that you mentioned a little bit ago and I think

480
00:23:52,880 --> 00:23:58,000
the fact that your therapist might help with my understanding or with the answer.

481
00:23:58,000 --> 00:24:03,480
So you talked about the power of prayer and how you can pray for someone that is a known

482
00:24:03,480 --> 00:24:06,760
energy vampire.

483
00:24:06,760 --> 00:24:11,800
Is there a difference because some people associate prayer with religion, like with organized

484
00:24:11,800 --> 00:24:14,760
religions, especially Christianity and so forth?

485
00:24:14,760 --> 00:24:21,840
Is there a difference between prayer and intentional meditation or setting an intent with meditation?

486
00:24:21,840 --> 00:24:27,480
I don't think there's much difference, you know, meditation is usually like you're trying

487
00:24:27,480 --> 00:24:32,960
to connect inward to yourself or you're connecting to spirit, you know?

488
00:24:32,960 --> 00:24:35,760
And prayer is more like care for other people.

489
00:24:35,760 --> 00:24:36,760
Do you know what I mean?

490
00:24:36,760 --> 00:24:38,960
You're sending your attention, you're prayer for other people.

491
00:24:38,960 --> 00:24:45,720
And my understanding of this is that my current understanding and my, my paradigm on

492
00:24:45,720 --> 00:24:50,000
this changes a lot as my experience and, you know, knowledge changes.

493
00:24:50,000 --> 00:24:55,280
Right now what I really believe is that the, the spirit guides that look after us, the angels,

494
00:24:55,280 --> 00:25:00,520
Archangels, ascended masters, they don't, they're not really queued into the intimate details,

495
00:25:00,520 --> 00:25:04,360
the tiny details of what's going on down here unless we point it out.

496
00:25:04,360 --> 00:25:07,080
And prayers like, oh, this person over here is really struggling.

497
00:25:07,080 --> 00:25:08,480
Can you attend to it?

498
00:25:08,480 --> 00:25:13,840
You know, this, it brings their attention to things that are happening on the planet that

499
00:25:13,840 --> 00:25:15,640
need help.

500
00:25:15,640 --> 00:25:17,800
And I think that's where prayer really works.

501
00:25:17,800 --> 00:25:22,720
And there's been some really interesting studies on, and from NDE's near death experiences

502
00:25:22,720 --> 00:25:28,960
of people who have reported, they, they, prayer, you know, that the prayer helps, that they

503
00:25:28,960 --> 00:25:33,840
felt people's prayers for them, that the prayers helped them heal or prayers helped them, you

504
00:25:33,840 --> 00:25:37,040
know, in all different kinds of ways.

505
00:25:37,040 --> 00:25:46,080
And it's so common through the NDE experiences that I feel like there's some pretty good, you

506
00:25:46,080 --> 00:25:48,800
know, proof behind it.

507
00:25:48,800 --> 00:25:53,280
And just I have my own, you know, my own, my experiences with it too, that it really works.

508
00:25:53,280 --> 00:25:54,280
Yeah.

509
00:25:54,280 --> 00:25:57,720
And at the end of the day, I think that's, really all that matters, right?

510
00:25:57,720 --> 00:26:03,000
Whatever, whatever focuses your intent or whatever works for you is, is the way to, for

511
00:26:03,000 --> 00:26:04,000
sure.

512
00:26:04,000 --> 00:26:06,880
And you don't have to believe in anything, you know, I don't, I don't know if you do.

513
00:26:06,880 --> 00:26:10,760
So you can, you certainly that religions have prayers, you can pray the rosary, you can,

514
00:26:10,760 --> 00:26:15,600
you know, do a formal prayer where you can just have an intention like, you know, I think

515
00:26:15,600 --> 00:26:17,320
it's good to invoke higher power.

516
00:26:17,320 --> 00:26:21,480
You know, if that's all, you know, if you can even say that, you know, to the higher power,

517
00:26:21,480 --> 00:26:26,960
please help with this or please a ton to this or please, you know, send healing, send

518
00:26:26,960 --> 00:26:31,920
clarity, send insights and ground supports and whatever, you, you know, you can do to assist

519
00:26:31,920 --> 00:26:32,920
with the situation.

520
00:26:32,920 --> 00:26:33,920
Right.

521
00:26:33,920 --> 00:26:34,920
Right.

522
00:26:34,920 --> 00:26:38,600
Well, let's shift gears just slightly because something occurred to me when we're talking

523
00:26:38,600 --> 00:26:43,440
about feeling energy from people and being a psychic and getting picking up on trauma

524
00:26:43,440 --> 00:26:44,960
and things like that.

525
00:26:44,960 --> 00:26:50,520
A lot of times, like for someone like me who's not psychic, but I do have sometimes some

526
00:26:50,520 --> 00:26:54,680
intuition that comes in or some, some intuitive hits.

527
00:26:54,680 --> 00:27:02,000
For me, it's difficult to figure out is that my intuition telling me that or am I just

528
00:27:02,000 --> 00:27:03,440
like freaking out about something?

529
00:27:03,440 --> 00:27:04,440
Right.

530
00:27:04,440 --> 00:27:07,240
So how can you differentiate between intuition and anxiety?

531
00:27:07,240 --> 00:27:13,880
Well, anytime you have a trigger, a charge, you feel reactive, it's not intuition.

532
00:27:13,880 --> 00:27:18,880
So if you're emotionally, if you're in emotional turmoil about it, it's straight up your,

533
00:27:18,880 --> 00:27:21,400
your stuff, your, you're freaking out.

534
00:27:21,400 --> 00:27:26,640
It's, you know, your nervous system is jacked up in some way and you're getting like, you

535
00:27:26,640 --> 00:27:31,960
know, the nervous system, you know, hormone cocktail, adrenaline, cortisol, whatever you've

536
00:27:31,960 --> 00:27:37,840
got going on in there that, that real psychic hits, real intuition is usually sort of calm.

537
00:27:37,840 --> 00:27:43,160
It has like a, a peaceful state and often we can't access it unless we're in a state of

538
00:27:43,160 --> 00:27:44,160
calm.

539
00:27:44,160 --> 00:27:49,680
We have to be in the alpha brainwave state, which is like a slightly relaxed, you know,

540
00:27:49,680 --> 00:27:55,480
J dreamy, slower brainwave, then we have full access to our creativity and our intuition

541
00:27:55,480 --> 00:27:57,160
and our psychic ability.

542
00:27:57,160 --> 00:28:00,200
So the short answer is if you feel jacked up about it, it's not intuition.

543
00:28:00,200 --> 00:28:01,200
All right.

544
00:28:01,200 --> 00:28:02,200
Okay.

545
00:28:02,200 --> 00:28:03,200
So then what, what about women's intuition?

546
00:28:03,200 --> 00:28:07,160
I mean, someone, I heard a lot about women who, they get an intuitive hit.

547
00:28:07,160 --> 00:28:10,440
No, I, I better not walk down that alley or something like that because they get that

548
00:28:10,440 --> 00:28:11,440
women's intuition.

549
00:28:11,440 --> 00:28:12,440
Yeah.

550
00:28:12,440 --> 00:28:15,360
And to me, they would be anxious to walk down that alley.

551
00:28:15,360 --> 00:28:23,480
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552
00:28:23,480 --> 00:28:25,040
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584
00:30:21,280 --> 00:30:25,000
I have this story about this mom that I worked with and she was a super, deeper, anxious

585
00:30:25,000 --> 00:30:26,000
mother.

586
00:30:26,000 --> 00:30:29,360
She had six kids and they were kind of all wild and she was an anxious mother.

587
00:30:29,360 --> 00:30:33,000
She told me that one night in the middle of the night, she woke up out of a dead sleep

588
00:30:33,000 --> 00:30:37,080
like two o'clock in the morning in the middle of a snowstorm, got in her car and started

589
00:30:37,080 --> 00:30:39,920
driving her out because she knew one of her kids was in trouble.

590
00:30:39,920 --> 00:30:41,040
She didn't feel a thing.

591
00:30:41,040 --> 00:30:43,720
She said she was calm as could be.

592
00:30:43,720 --> 00:30:47,560
And to one two minutes into it, she found one of her kids pulled over with a broken down

593
00:30:47,560 --> 00:30:49,160
car, right?

594
00:30:49,160 --> 00:30:51,840
And that she said completely calm.

595
00:30:51,840 --> 00:30:53,320
It was just an inner knowing.

596
00:30:53,320 --> 00:30:59,000
It was just a strong inner knowing without all that kind of anxiety, static that goes along

597
00:30:59,000 --> 00:31:00,800
with it, right?

598
00:31:00,800 --> 00:31:04,720
And I think you feel the same way about the dark alley, honestly.

599
00:31:04,720 --> 00:31:08,520
You just look down the dark alley and you're like, "Mom, I'm not going down there."

600
00:31:08,520 --> 00:31:10,640
It's different from like, "Ahh, I'm not going down there."

601
00:31:10,640 --> 00:31:12,160
You know, like that.

602
00:31:12,160 --> 00:31:13,160
It's a different feeling.

603
00:31:13,160 --> 00:31:16,800
So it's like before the anxiety hits, you're already like, "Yeah, I'm not going on that

604
00:31:16,800 --> 00:31:17,800
now."

605
00:31:17,800 --> 00:31:19,840
I was like, "I'm not going on that alley."

606
00:31:19,840 --> 00:31:21,840
It's very different.

607
00:31:21,840 --> 00:31:26,440
And then I think for women, we kind of get the double whammy because you're like, "I'm

608
00:31:26,440 --> 00:31:28,000
not getting them to elevate it with the guy."

609
00:31:28,000 --> 00:31:30,200
But then you have that whole like, "Well, that's not very polite."

610
00:31:30,200 --> 00:31:34,280
So then the anxiety starts to pop in like, "Should I do something that's against how I feel?"

611
00:31:34,280 --> 00:31:35,520
And then it's like a whole hot mess.

612
00:31:35,520 --> 00:31:36,520
So, boring.

613
00:31:36,520 --> 00:31:37,520
So a whole hot mess.

614
00:31:37,520 --> 00:31:42,080
And that is the problem and how we end up blocking our intuition because oftentimes our

615
00:31:42,080 --> 00:31:46,160
intuition is in direct conflict with what your mind tells you is the thing you should

616
00:31:46,160 --> 00:31:47,160
do.

617
00:31:47,160 --> 00:31:48,160
You know?

618
00:31:48,160 --> 00:31:49,160
You should like that person.

619
00:31:49,160 --> 00:31:50,160
What's wrong with you?

620
00:31:50,160 --> 00:31:51,160
Everybody else likes that person.

621
00:31:51,160 --> 00:31:54,200
And you know, your intuition is like, "No, your intuition is screaming at you that

622
00:31:54,200 --> 00:31:55,760
that's not a good person."

623
00:31:55,760 --> 00:31:56,760
You know?

624
00:31:56,760 --> 00:32:00,160
So a lot of times we end up overriding our intuition because we're trying it.

625
00:32:00,160 --> 00:32:02,760
But people like, we're trying to be nice.

626
00:32:02,760 --> 00:32:08,120
So we're trying to fit the expectations that are on us and we know what happens when we

627
00:32:08,120 --> 00:32:09,120
do that.

628
00:32:09,120 --> 00:32:10,120
Right.

629
00:32:10,120 --> 00:32:11,120
Yes.

630
00:32:11,120 --> 00:32:12,120
We know what happens.

631
00:32:12,120 --> 00:32:14,120
We're in our intuition almost always, right?

632
00:32:14,120 --> 00:32:15,120
Right.

633
00:32:15,120 --> 00:32:17,120
So thank you for the permission to be a jerk.

634
00:32:17,120 --> 00:32:18,120
Yes.

635
00:32:18,120 --> 00:32:20,120
Nice about it.

636
00:32:20,120 --> 00:32:23,360
Remember I said, we have to find lots of nice ways to say them.

637
00:32:23,360 --> 00:32:24,360
Oh, dang it.

638
00:32:24,360 --> 00:32:25,360
Okay, fine.

639
00:32:25,360 --> 00:32:29,320
So is intuition like the stepping stone into psychic abilities?

640
00:32:29,320 --> 00:32:32,880
Is that the same thing that we're talking about which is not developed?

641
00:32:32,880 --> 00:32:36,800
I think it's kind of, it's separated in an interesting way.

642
00:32:36,800 --> 00:32:39,280
The intuition is our inner knowing.

643
00:32:39,280 --> 00:32:41,000
It's our higher self.

644
00:32:41,000 --> 00:32:47,280
So it's your own self-knowing and actually really love the old school term ESP, you know,

645
00:32:47,280 --> 00:32:49,040
extra sensory perception.

646
00:32:49,040 --> 00:32:54,560
And I think intuition is people who are intuitive have the ability to process more sensory data

647
00:32:54,560 --> 00:32:56,440
than other people, you know?

648
00:32:56,440 --> 00:33:01,720
They say we process consciously about 10 to 20% of the sensory data that's around us in

649
00:33:01,720 --> 00:33:02,960
any given time.

650
00:33:02,960 --> 00:33:05,960
And I think intuitive process more than that.

651
00:33:05,960 --> 00:33:11,200
So we're getting information about it's usually through the body, how our body feels,

652
00:33:11,200 --> 00:33:13,680
our gut knowing and our feelings.

653
00:33:13,680 --> 00:33:17,240
And when those things come together, that's a strong intuitive hit.

654
00:33:17,240 --> 00:33:20,720
Like for example, when you meet somebody for the first time and you shake your, their

655
00:33:20,720 --> 00:33:25,800
hand, everybody, every human on the planet gets an intuitive hit about that person.

656
00:33:25,800 --> 00:33:30,840
And they say it takes nine seconds to form an opinion when you've first meet somebody, especially

657
00:33:30,840 --> 00:33:32,640
if you can touch them.

658
00:33:32,640 --> 00:33:35,720
And that's just straight up intuitive response.

659
00:33:35,720 --> 00:33:40,920
And I feel like it's just part of the evolutionary package we got as humans that helped us survive

660
00:33:40,920 --> 00:33:43,120
until this point, you know?

661
00:33:43,120 --> 00:33:44,600
And psychic's a little different though.

662
00:33:44,600 --> 00:33:48,440
Psychic is when we get information from outside of our self.

663
00:33:48,440 --> 00:33:50,480
You know, that's dead uncle Fred.

664
00:33:50,480 --> 00:33:51,480
That's the angel.

665
00:33:51,480 --> 00:33:57,560
You know, the, you know, saints that are with you or whoever is from outside of who we

666
00:33:57,560 --> 00:33:58,560
are.

667
00:33:58,560 --> 00:34:00,640
And it takes a little more skill.

668
00:34:00,640 --> 00:34:06,160
So I think psychics like inability, like musical ability, athletic ability, and everybody

669
00:34:06,160 --> 00:34:10,200
has some and you have to work it, you know?

670
00:34:10,200 --> 00:34:13,560
Professional psychics are just like professional athletes and professional musicians.

671
00:34:13,560 --> 00:34:16,080
We know those people worked to get there.

672
00:34:16,080 --> 00:34:18,960
And this is the same thing with psychics.

673
00:34:18,960 --> 00:34:22,280
So what can someone do to?

674
00:34:22,280 --> 00:34:23,280
Okay.

675
00:34:23,280 --> 00:34:27,440
I know some of the audience hates it when I make it about me, but I make it about me for a second.

676
00:34:27,440 --> 00:34:29,600
I would love to develop my intuition.

677
00:34:29,600 --> 00:34:31,320
I would love to be able to list to it more.

678
00:34:31,320 --> 00:34:39,480
I read somewhere once, once a couple days ago that we have primary senses, right?

679
00:34:39,480 --> 00:34:43,480
Our primary sense is probably our eyes every time we see that's what that's our biggest

680
00:34:43,480 --> 00:34:50,080
senses seeing. If for some reason we are struck blind, maybe our primary sense would then be

681
00:34:50,080 --> 00:34:53,800
hearing because we have to find a way around life.

682
00:34:53,800 --> 00:35:00,760
But then if suddenly we became deaf as well, then we might have to rely on intuition or

683
00:35:00,760 --> 00:35:02,400
vibrations and things like that.

684
00:35:02,400 --> 00:35:05,520
So we all have it to your point.

685
00:35:05,520 --> 00:35:14,800
But how can we deepen that intuition, that sense to maybe become more of a primary sense

686
00:35:14,800 --> 00:35:18,680
than of it's never around kind of sense?

687
00:35:18,680 --> 00:35:19,680
Yeah.

688
00:35:19,680 --> 00:35:23,360
I think the simple answer to that is you have to pay attention.

689
00:35:23,360 --> 00:35:27,520
And what I recommend that you do is start a journal, call it your psychic journal and

690
00:35:27,520 --> 00:35:32,840
begin to write down every dream that you remember, every psychic experience you have, every

691
00:35:32,840 --> 00:35:39,920
time you look at the clock and it says 11/11 every time you have that meeting, first meeting

692
00:35:39,920 --> 00:35:44,240
somebody experience, write it down because it's really ephemeral.

693
00:35:44,240 --> 00:35:46,960
And you could have a pretty profound experience.

694
00:35:46,960 --> 00:35:49,320
And if you don't write it down like an hour later, you forget about it.

695
00:35:49,320 --> 00:35:50,320
It's sort of like dreams.

696
00:35:50,320 --> 00:35:51,320
For sure.

697
00:35:51,320 --> 00:35:52,320
For sure.

698
00:35:52,320 --> 00:35:53,320
Yeah, no for sure.

699
00:35:53,320 --> 00:35:57,320
So if you do this, first of all, you're going to be amazed to how psychic you already are,

700
00:35:57,320 --> 00:35:58,320
I promise.

701
00:35:58,320 --> 00:36:03,520
And second of all, it sort of gives us that attention that like we're putting some time into

702
00:36:03,520 --> 00:36:05,320
doing it, you know?

703
00:36:05,320 --> 00:36:10,240
I think also having some tools, I think Oracle cards, tarot cards, things like that can

704
00:36:10,240 --> 00:36:15,320
be really a great additive tool to this, pull an angel card every day and write that down

705
00:36:15,320 --> 00:36:17,840
in your journal too.

706
00:36:17,840 --> 00:36:21,880
And then we have to, the last thing in, it's almost the most important here is we have

707
00:36:21,880 --> 00:36:28,280
to slow down and quiet down because we live in such a busy, busy, noisy world.

708
00:36:28,280 --> 00:36:31,600
And our intuition comes in in quiet moments.

709
00:36:31,600 --> 00:36:37,120
So you need 20 minutes a day where you're not listening to a podcast, you know, of course

710
00:36:37,120 --> 00:36:38,640
unless you're listening to this one.

711
00:36:38,640 --> 00:36:40,640
No, no, no, no, no, thank you Lisa.

712
00:36:40,640 --> 00:36:41,640
This is very important.

713
00:36:41,640 --> 00:36:42,640
This is a very important point.

714
00:36:42,640 --> 00:36:43,640
Yeah, you have to be quiet.

715
00:36:43,640 --> 00:36:47,120
Now just listen to this all the time, all the time.

716
00:36:47,120 --> 00:36:49,680
24/7, it's going to fix all your problems.

717
00:36:49,680 --> 00:36:50,680
That's right, it does.

718
00:36:50,680 --> 00:36:51,680
It's fixed mine.

719
00:36:51,680 --> 00:36:53,680
I know that for sure.

720
00:36:53,680 --> 00:36:59,440
So that quietness, you know, if you sit quietly and we can meditate, you can, you can have

721
00:36:59,440 --> 00:37:01,000
your journal with you.

722
00:37:01,000 --> 00:37:05,760
We have to have some quiet space, literally like no noise in your head for our intuition

723
00:37:05,760 --> 00:37:06,760
to come in.

724
00:37:06,760 --> 00:37:09,360
And then we go into like the brain shift mode, that alpha state mode.

725
00:37:09,360 --> 00:37:12,160
So here's a really great exercise you can try.

726
00:37:12,160 --> 00:37:14,320
Write down a question in your journal.

727
00:37:14,320 --> 00:37:17,400
Then do something that puts you into an alpha brainwave state.

728
00:37:17,400 --> 00:37:18,400
Take a shower.

729
00:37:18,400 --> 00:37:19,400
Wash the dishes.

730
00:37:19,400 --> 00:37:26,000
No the lawn, walk the dog, drive a familiar root, quiet, no sound, no noise is going on.

731
00:37:26,000 --> 00:37:29,720
And then wait and see what arises inside of you.

732
00:37:29,720 --> 00:37:31,520
Most people get their best psychic hits in the shower.

733
00:37:31,520 --> 00:37:34,800
I'm telling you, that's a really good place to get this.

734
00:37:34,800 --> 00:37:38,360
And because your mind relaxes, downships into the alpha brainwave, then you're going to pay

735
00:37:38,360 --> 00:37:43,240
attention to how you feel, what you see, sense, no, we're going to open up to all of our

736
00:37:43,240 --> 00:37:48,680
psychic senses and you'll have an aha moment like, oh, that's the answer to that question,

737
00:37:48,680 --> 00:37:49,360
right?

738
00:37:49,360 --> 00:37:53,840
You get out, right down the answer to your question and that's a really beautiful psychic experience.

739
00:37:53,840 --> 00:37:55,840
Yeah, it's just so hard.

740
00:37:55,840 --> 00:38:00,680
Like to walk the dog without a podcast of your ear or it's not though.

741
00:38:00,680 --> 00:38:02,920
It's so hard, it's so hard.

742
00:38:02,920 --> 00:38:07,400
You know, I read an interesting article or maybe we're listening to something, I don't

743
00:38:07,400 --> 00:38:11,240
know if you were there or not, but it was talking about the kids today, I guess, what

744
00:38:11,240 --> 00:38:14,240
generation alpha and also Gen Z.

745
00:38:14,240 --> 00:38:18,640
We'll be the first ones that don't know what it's like to be bored.

746
00:38:18,640 --> 00:38:19,640
I know.

747
00:38:19,640 --> 00:38:21,600
And how bad that is for them.

748
00:38:21,600 --> 00:38:24,400
Yeah, it's bad for their attention span.

749
00:38:24,400 --> 00:38:28,880
It's bad for their intelligence and emotional psyche, like all of that stuff.

750
00:38:28,880 --> 00:38:29,880
Yeah.

751
00:38:29,880 --> 00:38:30,880
I know.

752
00:38:30,880 --> 00:38:33,880
We need to have someone quite time and filter time.

753
00:38:33,880 --> 00:38:35,560
Edit is my meditation is so good.

754
00:38:35,560 --> 00:38:37,720
And I always start for people to meditate.

755
00:38:37,720 --> 00:38:38,720
You can meditate.

756
00:38:38,720 --> 00:38:39,720
That's great.

757
00:38:39,720 --> 00:38:41,960
But maybe you can turn the podcast off for the 20 minutes.

758
00:38:41,960 --> 00:38:43,760
It takes you to wash the dishes.

759
00:38:43,760 --> 00:38:46,920
And when your hands are busy, that's when I actually listen to the podcast the most.

760
00:38:46,920 --> 00:38:47,920
No one can't do that.

761
00:38:47,920 --> 00:38:50,400
I'll give you a more stuff for you.

762
00:38:50,400 --> 00:38:51,400
Oh, okay.

763
00:38:51,400 --> 00:38:52,400
You can sweet.

764
00:38:52,400 --> 00:38:58,360
So find that somewhere 20 minutes where you can be without noise in your head and see

765
00:38:58,360 --> 00:38:59,360
what arises inside of you.

766
00:38:59,360 --> 00:39:02,480
But if you're already meditating, does that count or no?

767
00:39:02,480 --> 00:39:04,600
Yeah, it's quite meditation.

768
00:39:04,600 --> 00:39:07,280
If it's a guiding meditation, not so much.

769
00:39:07,280 --> 00:39:10,640
But if it's a quiet meditation, yeah, counts.

770
00:39:10,640 --> 00:39:14,920
See for me, if my quiet minute, when I do this silence, my notations, my, my, I, they're

771
00:39:14,920 --> 00:39:18,600
the worst type of meditation because my brain just goes like floating around everywhere.

772
00:39:18,600 --> 00:39:20,240
And I got to focus again on my breath.

773
00:39:20,240 --> 00:39:21,240
Then what will they do?

774
00:39:21,240 --> 00:39:22,240
They're going to wake out.

775
00:39:22,240 --> 00:39:23,240
I don't know.

776
00:39:23,240 --> 00:39:24,240
As many as you.

777
00:39:24,240 --> 00:39:26,680
You might try moving meditation may be easier for you.

778
00:39:26,680 --> 00:39:33,200
So moving your body, walking meditation, a mantra-based meditation, chanting meditation,

779
00:39:33,200 --> 00:39:37,800
where people with super busy minds, their mind needs something to focus on.

780
00:39:37,800 --> 00:39:42,640
And mantras or, you know, that kind of thing is like giving your mind a rubik's cube and

781
00:39:42,640 --> 00:39:47,800
making it sit down in the corner, you know, or body-based meditations can sometimes work

782
00:39:47,800 --> 00:39:49,480
really well in that case.

783
00:39:49,480 --> 00:39:51,880
Body-based meaning like feel your body.

784
00:39:51,880 --> 00:39:53,880
Yoga, Tai Chi, walking.

785
00:39:53,880 --> 00:39:56,920
See, I used to do Tai Chi when I was younger and I loved it and I really would love to do

786
00:39:56,920 --> 00:39:57,920
it again.

787
00:39:57,920 --> 00:39:58,920
We just know there's no Tai Chi.

788
00:39:58,920 --> 00:40:02,000
If anyone's listening to this in the Hampton Nose area, if you're a Tai Chi teacher, let

789
00:40:02,000 --> 00:40:03,400
me know, dang it.

790
00:40:03,400 --> 00:40:08,560
And I'm not talking about the old people Tai Chi were to do the same movement 50 times

791
00:40:08,560 --> 00:40:09,560
really slow.

792
00:40:09,560 --> 00:40:12,560
I want the actual, it's more like, I guess I'm more like a Gung, right?

793
00:40:12,560 --> 00:40:15,120
Does, if you listen to music, does that count?

794
00:40:15,120 --> 00:40:18,640
Like if it's just like, I don't know, what is that?

795
00:40:18,640 --> 00:40:25,280
It's really floaty, you know, really floaty like ambient music, like lo-fi, lo-fi works great.

796
00:40:25,280 --> 00:40:28,040
If you're listening to like, there's no words.

797
00:40:28,040 --> 00:40:32,600
If you're listening to like heavy metal death, you know, death, thrush, maybe not so much,

798
00:40:32,600 --> 00:40:33,600
but...

799
00:40:33,600 --> 00:40:35,840
Damn, I feel so called out, geez.

800
00:40:35,840 --> 00:40:41,280
You're the head banger meditator.

801
00:40:41,280 --> 00:40:45,360
I wonder why my neck is hurting every time I finish every time I look.

802
00:40:45,360 --> 00:40:50,760
So to Karen's point, so that counts as the 20 minutes of silence, the playing that lo-fi

803
00:40:50,760 --> 00:40:52,000
music?

804
00:40:52,000 --> 00:40:53,000
I think so.

805
00:40:53,000 --> 00:40:55,280
Okay, we try to find the corners here.

806
00:40:55,280 --> 00:40:56,280
So...

807
00:40:56,280 --> 00:40:57,680
Yeah, you got to find something that works for you.

808
00:40:57,680 --> 00:40:58,680
I'm off of that.

809
00:40:58,680 --> 00:41:02,360
Like you have to find something that, you know, you don't hate that isn't torturous for

810
00:41:02,360 --> 00:41:05,080
you, that is actually brings you into state of relaxation.

811
00:41:05,080 --> 00:41:09,040
It feels really good to be in an alpha brain wave state, you know, in that sort of light,

812
00:41:09,040 --> 00:41:15,600
daydreamy sort of semi-trans state and where we have the most access to both our creativity

813
00:41:15,600 --> 00:41:18,360
and our intuition.

814
00:41:18,360 --> 00:41:25,280
And so I don't think this is a nice to have, intuition, being touch with your intuition.

815
00:41:25,280 --> 00:41:31,280
It's probably something you definitely want to try to develop pretty, pretty strongly.

816
00:41:31,280 --> 00:41:34,000
I mean, it's pretty important to have that, right?

817
00:41:34,000 --> 00:41:36,440
What happens if someone doesn't?

818
00:41:36,440 --> 00:41:40,040
It's quite useful, you know, and it's useful for two reasons.

819
00:41:40,040 --> 00:41:45,640
One of them is that it's designed to help you navigate through your own life in an easier

820
00:41:45,640 --> 00:41:46,640
way.

821
00:41:46,640 --> 00:41:51,640
So I believe intuition connects us to our higher self, to our soul self, your higher self's

822
00:41:51,640 --> 00:41:55,080
way of communicating with you is through your intuition.

823
00:41:55,080 --> 00:42:00,200
So if you want to live a more soulful life, it's a really good way to get there.

824
00:42:00,200 --> 00:42:04,360
And you know, it's really hard, it's hard to be human on the planet right now.

825
00:42:04,360 --> 00:42:07,080
We're living through some really strange times.

826
00:42:07,080 --> 00:42:13,080
And you know, I think the weirder and trickier the world gets, the more we can rely on our

827
00:42:13,080 --> 00:42:14,080
intuition to help us.

828
00:42:14,080 --> 00:42:19,920
I saw this a lot happen in the pandemic when people just got closer to their, we had this

829
00:42:19,920 --> 00:42:24,160
big pattern interrupt, everyone sort of stopped what they were doing, got off the hamster

830
00:42:24,160 --> 00:42:27,160
wheel and like, what do I really want to do?

831
00:42:27,160 --> 00:42:30,600
And their intuition told them to move to Vermont and become a goat farmer.

832
00:42:30,600 --> 00:42:31,600
How did you know?

833
00:42:31,600 --> 00:42:34,000
I didn't do it, but how did you know?

834
00:42:34,000 --> 00:42:38,480
That seems like that's what everybody did, but I don't know.

835
00:42:38,480 --> 00:42:40,320
That or sort of podcasts, one or the other.

836
00:42:40,320 --> 00:42:41,320
I started podcasts.

837
00:42:41,320 --> 00:42:42,440
Yeah, do all the things right?

838
00:42:42,440 --> 00:42:47,240
Another book or, you know, do you do all the things that where that our soul is calling

839
00:42:47,240 --> 00:42:48,240
us to do you?

840
00:42:48,240 --> 00:42:50,040
That's coming directly from your intuition.

841
00:42:50,040 --> 00:42:51,040
So it's quite useful.

842
00:42:51,040 --> 00:42:54,920
And I think it's for helping you navigate through your own life and also to be of service

843
00:42:54,920 --> 00:42:56,080
to others.

844
00:42:56,080 --> 00:43:00,720
So our intuition will often, you know, send you to the coffee shop to be right at the

845
00:43:00,720 --> 00:43:04,160
place at the right time to talk to that person who really needs to hear what you say and then

846
00:43:04,160 --> 00:43:09,080
you open your mouth and the angel says something through you to the person not needed to hear

847
00:43:09,080 --> 00:43:10,560
it, you know?

848
00:43:10,560 --> 00:43:15,240
So I think it's a twofold thing to navigate your own life in a more soulful way and be

849
00:43:15,240 --> 00:43:16,960
of more service to humanity.

850
00:43:16,960 --> 00:43:17,960
I love that.

851
00:43:17,960 --> 00:43:21,560
I just wish I knew how, but I'll figure it out.

852
00:43:21,560 --> 00:43:24,000
I think your intuition is a lot stronger than you realize.

853
00:43:24,000 --> 00:43:26,160
I think you just kind of write it off.

854
00:43:26,160 --> 00:43:27,560
You never go down that dark alley.

855
00:43:27,560 --> 00:43:31,440
You know, I have a feeling you're going to say that.

856
00:43:31,440 --> 00:43:32,440
Probably it's true.

857
00:43:32,440 --> 00:43:35,040
And it would be like a sense of knowing, you know, like you don't know why you know you

858
00:43:35,040 --> 00:43:36,040
just know, right?

859
00:43:36,040 --> 00:43:38,880
Or a feeling, you have a good bad feeling about that?

860
00:43:38,880 --> 00:43:39,880
Yeah, I'm sure.

861
00:43:39,880 --> 00:43:42,200
I'm for a little voice in your head.

862
00:43:42,200 --> 00:43:44,560
One of the little voices in your head isn't you?

863
00:43:44,560 --> 00:43:47,360
It's like the voice of your intuition or your spirit, guys.

864
00:43:47,360 --> 00:43:48,960
My entire career is built in that voice.

865
00:43:48,960 --> 00:43:51,640
Like I just, I, data who needs data.

866
00:43:51,640 --> 00:43:52,640
I'm just going with my gut.

867
00:43:52,640 --> 00:43:53,640
It's worth that so far.

868
00:43:53,640 --> 00:43:54,640
Knock on woods.

869
00:43:54,640 --> 00:43:55,640
Right.

870
00:43:55,640 --> 00:43:56,640
That's it.

871
00:43:56,640 --> 00:43:57,480
That's what it is.

872
00:43:57,480 --> 00:44:01,320
Well, you've built an entire army of people like this, right?

873
00:44:01,320 --> 00:44:05,080
You talk, you call it the, the army of healers.

874
00:44:05,080 --> 00:44:09,040
What does the world look like if that army actually were to show up?

875
00:44:09,040 --> 00:44:14,240
You know, I think it'd be a place full of sort of empathic kind people who are following

876
00:44:14,240 --> 00:44:17,920
their own, you know, committed to having their living their life purpose, right?

877
00:44:17,920 --> 00:44:20,560
So a whole army of people is nice.

878
00:44:20,560 --> 00:44:21,560
Yeah.

879
00:44:21,560 --> 00:44:23,560
They'd all be listening to this podcast first.

880
00:44:23,560 --> 00:44:24,560
Yes.

881
00:44:24,560 --> 00:44:25,560
I'll pay you later.

882
00:44:25,560 --> 00:44:26,560
Thank you.

883
00:44:26,560 --> 00:44:31,520
I just trained hundreds of, that maybe thousands of people now and how, how to do rakey and

884
00:44:31,520 --> 00:44:34,440
I, and other energy healing modalities.

885
00:44:34,440 --> 00:44:39,400
And I love working with people, psychics healers and empaths who are wanting to activate their

886
00:44:39,400 --> 00:44:40,400
gifts.

887
00:44:40,400 --> 00:44:42,120
You know, so we do so many things these days.

888
00:44:42,120 --> 00:44:44,080
It's sort of pop our psychic open.

889
00:44:44,080 --> 00:44:49,680
I always say yoga, rakey and meditation are the three gateways to into the spiritual world.

890
00:44:49,680 --> 00:44:50,680
So you do something.

891
00:44:50,680 --> 00:44:52,160
You have a spiritual awakening.

892
00:44:52,160 --> 00:44:53,400
People say, I'm on a journey.

893
00:44:53,400 --> 00:44:56,540
I started my journey three years ago, you know?

894
00:44:56,540 --> 00:45:00,980
And with that comes this increase in intuition and psychic.

895
00:45:00,980 --> 00:45:02,420
Maybe you do a little plant medicine.

896
00:45:02,420 --> 00:45:05,500
Maybe you have, you know, somebody near close to you passes away.

897
00:45:05,500 --> 00:45:08,540
There's all these things open us to this larger world.

898
00:45:08,540 --> 00:45:10,340
And a lot of times you need help.

899
00:45:10,340 --> 00:45:13,340
And I didn't get help when I was going through my awakening.

900
00:45:13,340 --> 00:45:14,340
It was the 60s.

901
00:45:14,340 --> 00:45:15,340
I was a kid.

902
00:45:15,340 --> 00:45:16,980
There was nothing.

903
00:45:16,980 --> 00:45:20,860
Zero information about this and it was quite torturous actually.

904
00:45:20,860 --> 00:45:24,060
So any day I can help other people go through that.

905
00:45:24,060 --> 00:45:27,740
And in easier and more graceful way than I did is really a good day for me.

906
00:45:27,740 --> 00:45:29,220
There's no way you go up in the 60s.

907
00:45:29,220 --> 00:45:31,220
You look way way too young.

908
00:45:31,220 --> 00:45:32,220
1964.

909
00:45:32,220 --> 00:45:33,220
What?

910
00:45:33,220 --> 00:45:34,220
I just had to catch it.

911
00:45:34,220 --> 00:45:35,220
I'm like, no way.

912
00:45:35,220 --> 00:45:36,220
Holy smokes.

913
00:45:36,220 --> 00:45:37,220
You look great.

914
00:45:37,220 --> 00:45:40,740
Whatever it is you doing, meditation, rakey, whatever it is, I'm doing it.

915
00:45:40,740 --> 00:45:42,940
I know too much.

916
00:45:42,940 --> 00:45:44,020
So what is it?

917
00:45:44,020 --> 00:45:45,020
What is that you're working on now?

918
00:45:45,020 --> 00:45:48,580
You want to make sure we promote to make sure that people know that you can help them

919
00:45:48,580 --> 00:45:49,580
with.

920
00:45:49,580 --> 00:45:52,860
I think, you know, we talked a lot about empaths and energy vampires.

921
00:45:52,860 --> 00:45:57,820
We come to my website, I have a really beautiful free course called energy management for empaths.

922
00:45:57,820 --> 00:45:58,820
Oh, there you go.

923
00:45:58,820 --> 00:46:03,720
And it will assist in five videos that will help you learn how to do all the things we

924
00:46:03,720 --> 00:46:08,260
talked about, how to have really good energy hygiene, how to have boundaries, how to,

925
00:46:08,260 --> 00:46:12,260
those psychies self defense techniques are all in this free class you can get on my website.

926
00:46:12,260 --> 00:46:13,260
Awesome.

927
00:46:13,260 --> 00:46:15,060
I get a little belt when they're done.

928
00:46:15,060 --> 00:46:16,060
A little belt.

929
00:46:16,060 --> 00:46:17,060
A little black belt.

930
00:46:17,060 --> 00:46:18,060
For sure.

931
00:46:18,060 --> 00:46:23,620
I want to emphasize the magic word there, for real.

932
00:46:23,620 --> 00:46:27,900
So yeah, I'm going to hit it for sure because, you know, free is good.

933
00:46:27,900 --> 00:46:29,140
Free is good.

934
00:46:29,140 --> 00:46:34,020
And so if someone wanted to take advantage of that, you know, mention your website, give

935
00:46:34,020 --> 00:46:37,620
us your website here so we can put it on screen and then into our show notes as well.

936
00:46:37,620 --> 00:46:38,620
Sure.

937
00:46:38,620 --> 00:46:40,500
It's leasedacampian.com, very easy.

938
00:46:40,500 --> 00:46:41,500
Okay.

939
00:46:41,500 --> 00:46:42,500
Makes my job much easier.

940
00:46:42,500 --> 00:46:43,500
Yes.

941
00:46:43,500 --> 00:46:46,700
If you didn't have a pen in particular point in time and you definitely want to connect with

942
00:46:46,700 --> 00:46:50,700
leasedac, go to skid, which you definitely should go to skepticmanibosition.com.

943
00:46:50,700 --> 00:46:51,700
You already know it.

944
00:46:51,700 --> 00:46:52,700
You've been there a hundred times.

945
00:46:52,700 --> 00:46:56,260
Just go to her episode page this time and hit that link that's going to be in a show note.

946
00:46:56,260 --> 00:46:57,980
It'll be an easy connection for you.

947
00:46:57,980 --> 00:47:00,700
So leasedac, this has been a beautiful conversation.

948
00:47:00,700 --> 00:47:03,460
Thank you so much for coming and sharing your wisdom with us.

949
00:47:03,460 --> 00:47:04,860
Oh, thank you so much for having it.

950
00:47:04,860 --> 00:47:06,940
It was so much fun.

951
00:47:06,940 --> 00:47:07,940
I think we had more fun.

952
00:47:07,940 --> 00:47:08,940
I think so too.

953
00:47:08,940 --> 00:47:12,140
At least I will talk to you again, again real soon.

954
00:47:12,140 --> 00:47:16,380
Well, that does it for this episode of the skepticmanibositions.

955
00:47:16,380 --> 00:47:19,420
Thank you for taking the time to listen to this show.

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