Choosing Resonance Over Fear: A 2026 Roundtable on Predictions, Discernment & Free Will

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Karen, what have you noticed? Yes, I knew you're gonna

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answer that. Wait, pause, I pause this time. Have you

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noticed how everyone in the spiritual space suddenly seems to

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have thoughts about twenty twenty six?

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Yeah, I guess. I mean, well, it's just because it

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just turned twenty twenty six.

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That's a fair point. Fair point, But I'm talking about

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not like thought thoughts, but more like predictions.

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Oh, those kind of things. Yeah, forethoughts.

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Apparently twenty twenty six is going to be a challenging year,

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and here I thought twenty twenty five was the one.

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It's going to be transformative, intense, possibly apocalyptic, oh pod,

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possibly a Great Awakening, zombies hopefully not possibly a Great Awakening,

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but more than likely both. Right, here's the thing. Some

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of these people are smart, they're thoughtful, they're not fearmongers

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at all. So tonight, instead of telling you what's coming,

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We're going to ask a different question. What do we

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do with these predictions without let letting them hijack our

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nervous systems or outsource our discernment. We have three powerful

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perspectives from three powerful past guests. No doom, no forced optimism,

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and fair warning there might even be some gentle disagreement.

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Karen's already giving me that. Look, so let's do this.

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The Skeptical Physicians starts. Now. My name is Will and

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I'm Karous, and unlike Moulder and Scully, both want to believe.

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So we've embarked in a journey of discovery.

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We've talked to people deeply entrenched in the spiritual and

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metaphysical world.

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We've thrown ourselves into weird and wonderful experiences. I even

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joined a coven.

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Of witches and wait, you joined a coven?

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Yep, all the interests of finding something, anything that will

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prove that there's something beyond this physical.

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Three dimensional world we all live in.

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This is the Skeptic Metaphysicians. Hey there, I'm Will and

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I'm Karen. Welcome back to Skeptic Benda Physicians. Before we

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dive in, I want to take just a moment to

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set the container for this conversation. It's a very different

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thing that we've done ever in the history of the show,

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and we're excited to share this with you. But it's

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an experiment, so bear with us. Over the past year,

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we've seen more and more predictions circulating in spiritual and

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metaphysical spaces, especially about what the next few years might bring.

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Some of those perspectives are thoughtful, some are speculative, and

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some frankly, can leave people feeling anxious or disoriented. Well,

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today's episode isn't about telling you what's going to happen

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or what you should believe. It's about something more foundational.

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How we relate to these predictions in the first place,

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How do we stay informed without becoming fearful, How we

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honor intuition and pattern recognition without handing over our agency,

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And how do we hold uncertainty without rushing to certainty

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just to feel safe. We intentionally brought together three different

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perspectives for this roundtable, not to debate or convince, but

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to explore these questions from multiple angles, sometimes agreeing, sometimes not.

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But if you're looking for definitive answers, I'm afraid you

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may not find them here what you're gonna look. But

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if you're looking for orientation discernment in a way to

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stay grounded when future focused conversations get intense, you, my friend,

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are in the right place. Let's go ahead and bring

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everyone in. First and foremost, we have Karen Chong from

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Spherical luminosity spherical luminosity. Karen works at the quantum level

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of transformation, helping people create tangible results in their lives

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by changing the underlying, energetic and informational patterns that shape reality.

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Her work is rooted in applied quantum principles rather than

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prediction or emotional processing, and she focuses on outcomes, clarity,

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and aligned action rather than fear based narratives. Next to her,

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we have Gabrielle Celeste from Agua Astrology and also from

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the Spiritual Sisters podcast. Gabrielle works with astrology as a

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language of patterns and cycles, not necessarily prediction as destiny.

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She's here to help us unpack what astrology can actually

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say and what it can't, and how easily meaning turns

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into certainty. Rachel White from totein Readings, also known as

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the Skeptical Shaman and from Skeptical Shaman Podcast. She's known

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for challenging spiritual authority and fear based narratives while still

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honoring genuine mystical experience. She has a rare ability to

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question claims without dismissing curiosity, and she's here to keep

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us honest about power, projection, and responsibility. In spiritual spaces.

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That was a lot, Ladies, Thank you so much for

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being on the show today.

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Thank you for having us.

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Excited to be here, Well, we're excited to have you.

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I know this is going to be interesting. How we

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do this. We want to make sure we don't talk

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over each other. So let's keep our fingers crossed, run

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off the bat. Let's like I mentioned before, let's set

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the container. In twenty twenty five, people we spoke to

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were saying how that it was going to be a

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rough year, and it was going to be and we

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were gonna once we cross over into twenty twenty six,

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things are going to give you better and all that

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kind of stuff. But now it seems like things are changing,

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and now the people that we're talking to are saying

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that this year might actually be a little bit more

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challenges and then what we expected. So because I was

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expecting twenty six to be a year of now I

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find myself going, oh crap. Right, So that is where

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this whole conversation comes from. So first and foremost, I

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would love to start with you, Rachel, when it comes

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to twenty twenty six predictions. What are we talking here?

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When people hear that twenty six is going to be challenging.

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What are people actually hearing?

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Well? Like you, I got the same vibe of twenty

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twenty five, not just as a shaman. We don't really

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do what other people say. We kind of reverse engineer things.

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We go directly to spirit and then we reverse engineer

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or research and go, oh, look, other people to hope,

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the lions, the Japanese shinto this thing right, twenty twenty

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a pig. I almost died. It's a long story. I've

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a merged line now. You know, necessity really is the

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most invention and what doesn't kill you does make you stranger.

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But this year horse here, I still think it's going

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to be the best year we've had since twenty nineteen.

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So I think the people telling you it's going to

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be bad are people who either have a profit motive.

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You now, it's called solutions selling. You create a sense

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of urgency, poke it latent pain, and then you deliver

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the solution, the lift, and you convert them to sale. Right,

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that's very it's you know, fear porn earned multi level marketing.

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For lack of a better term, I think outside of

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that though, the people who are actually going to find

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this year really challenging, or people who are aggressively attached

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to their illusions as we've seen in the last week,

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you know how many powerful figures that people have deified

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and elevated to certain platforms have fallen, and that this

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is not a team sport. It's you know, upstairs, downstairs,

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not left right paradigm, and someone who's a shaman or

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someone who's in quiz like a skeptic metaphysician or others,

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we're going to feel a tremendous sense of relief this year.

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It's like the family's finally having the big, dark, gross,

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uncomfortable conversation of Thanksgiving dinner.

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About what Uncle Bob was about.

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And it upsets some people, but people like me feel

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relief that we're finally being honest and it's a watershed experience.

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And in terms of apocalyptic visions, the word apocalypse, there's

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a lot of theological illiteracy. Apocalypse means revealing of great information.

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It's a Greek word, it doesn't mean end of the world.

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And armageddon is a mistranslation of hag mcgiedon, which is

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a mountain in Israel. It's a geographic location, so you know,

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once you sort of get into the etymology of the words,

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I think it dissipates a lot of the anxiety around it. Personally,

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I'm pumped for the ride. I'm happy to be here.

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Well, that is one way look at it, right, It's

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like woo who Right, there's a roller coaster ride. But

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at the same time it does cause a lot of

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people a lot of consternation, a lot of fear, And

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that's what I'm trying to figure out. How do we

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get around that, because yes, if you're willing to go

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for the ride, then woohoo.

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a roller coaster ride for a couple of years. Yeah,

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So it's like, when's the ride Y seton?

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In Chinese astrology, this is the first year we have

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yin Earth any Earth element since twenty nineteen, and Earth

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rules over stability, currency, being able to build on things.

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So I agree, Karen. I've found the last six years

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not unpleasant but challenging a lot of growth and change fatigue.

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I think a lot of other people experience that too,

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and so this year it's going to be a wild

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ride in some ways. Otherwise it's going to be business

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is doing better, people are going to love real things,

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Collaboration is going to be easier. I'm not that worried

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about it.

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you're on board for the ride, then it's going to

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be a good thing. But we have to go through

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some uncomfortable parts of the year to get to that

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reveal or whatever. Right, So, Karen, I'd love to ask you,

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how does someone get to that point where they are

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actually are able to strap on and have fun on

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the ride versus worry about what's coming.

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So from my perspective, so I work at the level

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of the field, the quantum, and so my perspective is

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really broad and so me for me or from my perspective,

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what is happening now on the earth is important because

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we are in the midst of something which is a

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tremendous shift that hasn't been seen before in the universes.

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And that is the shift into the awareness that we

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are source intelligence in the form which is a much

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higher degree of resonance than what we've occupied in our mind,

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which is like I have to focus on the physical.

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This is what matters. I have to do my to

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do list. I got to like make money, I got

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to make sure I'm okay, this is mine, that's yours,

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this is my ideas, that's your ideas. There's a lot

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of separation, there's a lot of ego, there's a lot

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of limitation. And so because we have been in the

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density of this consciousness level, the third dimensional consciousness level,

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which just means like a bandwidth the frequency, which means

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that we have very dense patterns or distortions of scarcity,

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of oppression, of greed, of fear, of all these things,

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in order to move into a higher level of resonance,

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a higher experience of these I guess it's not really ideals,

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because it's what you can live when you're in a

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higher resonance, which is more of a feeling of oneness,

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which is a more of an embodiment of the emanation

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that you truly are, which is that of love, which

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is of peacefulness, of serenity, of knowing intrinsically that you're

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a part of the one, that you are infinite. When

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you're in that higher resonance, of that higher dimension. I

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know it sounds kind of high in the sky, but

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it's literally a shift in resonance up. And in order

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to experience that shift in resonance up, you need to

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have dissolution, or first before the solution, the awareness of

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the things that haven't worked. All of our systems currently

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right now, from financial to political, even our personal systems

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have been entrenched in fear and lack. I don't think

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that's a big surprise to anybody, right Like, we're very

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limited in how we see the world, and so that's

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why we feel like we don't have enough, that we're

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not enough. All these distortion penants have been running and

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they're very very heavy in this level of consciousness. In

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order to move up into a different level of consciousness,

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which again can sound a little like rose colored glasses,

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but it's actually happening at this moment, you have to

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purge out these heavier distortions in yourself because ultimately, from

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my perspective anyway, we're creator beings, and so your experience

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of your reality is actually a reflection of your own

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emanation or said differently, your own resonance. So to me,

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how do we get to this place where your question

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initially will was how do you get to the place

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where you're like in for the ride well, to me,

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it has to do with your resonance, right, because I

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recognize around us in the external world it looks really

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chaotic and it's very scary, and there's a ton of fear,

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and there's a lot of worry about how am I

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going to feed myself? How am I going to feed

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my kids? Am I going to make it? Is there

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going to be enough? Like the world seems like it's

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blowing up or burning? What am I going to do?

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And I feel like in this time where we can

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really see this kind of very intense, very polarized stuff

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happening around us, it's not meant to punish us. It's

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actually meant to shake us awake to be like, Okay,

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I don't want to see this in my world anymore.

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What is it that I'm running within me in my

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own patterns that has helped to create this world either

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complicitly because I've been silent, or I've been creating it

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in my own field, or I've been kind of going

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along with it, or I haven't said anything. And how

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can I clear that within myself? Because from my perspective,

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once you raise your resonance, things start to change, and

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the thing is in your world, what does it look like?

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Because in your world you might be creating all kinds

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of awesome, right, just in terms of the residence that

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you are, in terms of the kindness that you have,

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the thoughtfulness you have, the inspiration you have that invites

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in collaboration for more people. That emanation then spreads to

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other people who then get to share that with other people,

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and it sort of just starts to spread. So the

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thing is, I know that it can feel powerless at

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this time, but that's part of the point. It's for

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us to realize that we actually aren't that disempowered, for

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us to release that narrative that we can't do anything

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to release that sort of suppressed rage, that like we're impotent,

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like there's nothing we can do, and that action is

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the only thing that matters. But the thing is, you know,

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it's about your resonance, and as you raise it, you

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can change a lot just by shifting that rather than

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just feeling like this oppressed rage. And just like a

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really short story and I'm sorry because I'm talking for

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a while here, but like a friend of not a friend,

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actually a client. Yeah she's British, but she was in

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Israel and she was trying to get online for this

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program I get called the Limitless Potential Mass Mind, and

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she said, I don't know that I can connect because

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she lives in Tel Aviv. She was living in Tel

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Aviv at the time, and she's like, well, we've all

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been told that Iran is about to attack and we

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all need to go to the bomb shelters and we

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need to be in there in a couple of hours.

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So I don't know that I can connect. There's no

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connectivity in there. So our customer service wrote to her

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and said, these very simple things. Remember that your resinance

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is under your control, that you can raise it and

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to really be present in the moment and in your resonance,

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and you can change all kinds of things. There's nothing

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really fixed. So she did her own thing right. So

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she was like, oh, that's totally true. I forgot that

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in all the fear and all that sort of fear mongering.

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So she focused on raising her resonance. She said she

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felt a shift within an hour they had announced there's

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no more attack. You don't need to be going to

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the bomb shelters anymore. So who knows what causes what? Right,

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Because in the quantum field. Everything is possibility, right, There's

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nothing fixed. Everything is wave potential. So the thing is,

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I mentioned that story because we feel like we're disempowered,

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but we actually have so much more power than we

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really think we do.

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I see what you're saying. You're talking about changing your

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reality into a reality word twenty twenty six is not

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a bad thing, right, That's kind of what you're aligning

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yourself with that that those energies, that's interesting.

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I have a question for everyone, but let's hear from

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Gabrielle first.

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Yeah, So, Gabrielle, I wanted to ask you specifically what

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as an astrologer you are adept at seeing patterns that

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are emerging and see things that might perhaps be in

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the cards for certain people and for the world at large,

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so to speak. One of the things we talked about

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last time you won the show was some movements that

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are happening that hasn't been seen since the Civil War,

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which frankly freaked us out right. So it all kind

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of funny enough for much more in agreement than I

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thought in a lot of ways. But Cabriell, what is

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coming in twenty twenty six, Like, what should we be

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ready for?

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Well?

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Oh, she got the easy question.

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No, Well, first of all, thank you again for having

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me on and ladies, nice to meet you. Yeah, I

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feel like that's kind of a loaded question. I think

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I actually think it's going to be a great year overall.

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Although I do think there is a lot of change

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that's occurring, I don't know if it's avoidable on the

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collective scale. So we are a time of recording. We're

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in eclipse season, and in the next couple of weeks

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with the Chinese New Year, we have the lunary it's

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also a lunary clipse, and then a couple of days

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before that on the thirteenth, Saturn's going into Aries. The

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lunary clips is the seventeenth and then the twentieth. Neptune

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and Saturn meet up in areas for the first time

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in a while in that specific sign, and typically when

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those two planets meet up on the world stage, something

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usually goes down. This is not a prediction, this is

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just a pattern observation. Goes down with the United States

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and Russia, right, And we have another cycle, another transit

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that's occurring on April twenty fifth, which is Urinus is

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going into Gemini, and that in the past typically Saturn

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and up two meeting up in areas and Urinus going

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into Gemini. Those on the world stage oftentimes coincide with

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some type of conflict. Right, that is one timeline. There

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are multiple timelines available to us, and I really feel

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like it's dependent on not just how those transits are

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affecting one person specifically how it relates to their chart.

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But I also think there's a little bit of and

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this is where like the whole fate and free will

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discussion comes into for me, and I'm still figuring that

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one out and dancing with it. It's almost like, at

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least what I've noticed is when people do a certain

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amount of shadow work, when they nurture their nervous systems

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to a regulated point, they can almost I don't want

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to use the word bypass, but that's the words that's

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coming up. They can co create and work with the

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astrology in different ways instead of it almost like plummeting

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them and them just kind of surrendering to maybe the

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more negative aspects of what those trendsits could be, how

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they could be impacting one's chart. So I did. I'm

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so blessed to be able to say this A good

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amount of readings in the high double digits over the

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last two months, and of those readings, only like a

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handful really had like a challenging year up ahead of them,

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and so many people, And I think that reflects back

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to maybe just where we're at from a consciousness standpoint,

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and how many people have woken up since twenty nineteen

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to now how many of them are actually having really beautiful,

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phenomenal years at least from the timelins that I was reading.

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On the world stage, I think it is going to

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be a little bit more challenged. But on a personal note,

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it seems like a lot of people are having a

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phenomenal year.

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Cool, so the world would fall down around us, but

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we're going to have fun.

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It happens, Yeah, yeah, Can I just interject quickly. I

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wanted to say my readings as well, Gabrielle, they've been nice,

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shockingly positive relative to the last six years. Truly as

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a meta trend, I do about anywhere between ten and

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thirty one on one client terror readings or psychic sessions

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a week, and they've all been shockingly positive, and a

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lot around sovereignty, autonomy, free.

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Will you know what are you creating?

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And it's been booing I think for me and sounds

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like for you too, where it's like, oh, I thought so,

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but it's nice to see it and everybody else's stuff too,

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thank you.

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I feel like, yeah, the word that's coming to mind

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is refreshing. Like I'm like, oh, like everyone kind of

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had a really challenging year in twenty twenty five. It

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only know a handful of people who had a really

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great year announce the inverse, and it almost feels like

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a reward for honoring the snake and now embracing the

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fire horse.

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Right, So I hear what everyone's saying, and I'm you're going, no, no,

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not at all.

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Not at all.

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But I'm you know, usually y'all know you've all been

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on the show, will researchers.

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Everyone.

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I come in kind of from the audience perspective. So

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that's kind of trying what I'm trying to do here too. So,

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you know, for the average Joe who can't tap into

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the or doesn't know even that a quantum field exists,

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or that we can create a manifest our own realities,

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or there's you know, astrology, and they're just going through

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this stuff and they're seeing all the casts and there's

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so many more of them, I think than people that

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are like awakened. How how does that imbalance affect what's

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happening or is everyone just in a million own separate timelines,

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having different lives And that's for anybody.

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But I'll answer that first, which is I don't think

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one twenty six is going to be any worse than

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the last six years for anybody actually.

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Saying that, though twenty the last six years have been

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you know it's pretty bad.

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Well, I had to show medical paperwork at Whole Foods

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to buy toilet paper.

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In twenty twenty and twenty twenty one.

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You know, everything's relative, and we've been at war the

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whole time, and the economy has been shrinking, and you

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know it's been hard, especially last year. Last year was

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the culmination point. So for the average Joe, to answer

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your question, what I would say is, if you're not

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dead yet, you're alive.

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You're your luck.

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Seriously, and congratulations you made it through the gauntlet, and

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you should be proud of your strength and your resilience,

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whatever side of whatever thing you're on. There has never

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been propaganda like there's been. There have never been spiritual

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attacks like there've been. I got violently ill in the

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middle of last year. I actually have a legal situation

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as a result of it. I know three dozen people

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who went through the same things starting on the same

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day as me. Wow, that is a data point that

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cannot be argued with. We're all still here and we're

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feeling buoyant, enthusiastic. We all lead very different lives some

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of our gnostics. Some of them are fundamentalist Christians, Catholics, Muslims, everybody.

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Because I talk to everybody, that's one of the benefits

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of that. And what I would say is, really, truly,

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the war may go more kinetic this year, but that's

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just what we're seeing. And so for the average person,

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I'm not good at somatics, I'm not good to astrology.

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But what I would tell them is, you know, as

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long as you have air in your lungs, you're a

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problem to the to the forces of darkness.

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You know, very like are you stark? Do you guys?

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Remember the Long Night on Game of Thrones when Melissandra,

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the Red Witch, who's the best ever, says, what do

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we say to the God of death? And she says,

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not today, Just say not today. And that's a very

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shamanic thing because we're very memento Maury and like, you know, disillusion, dismemberment, death,

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resurrection in plant medicine and medica and things like that.

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But I think we've all mastered resurrection the last six years.

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I mean, how many careers did you, guys end start,

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how many lifestyles did you end start? How many things

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came and went that you killed and gave birth to

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that died and was reborn. So you're now alchemist truly everybody,

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So just keep doing that and also turn the news

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off and don't look at social media.

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Yeah, that's that's definitely the way to go.

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But people like Gabrielle Karen, although I wouldn't affects, that's true.

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Yeah, the Walk for Peace, we wouldn't have known.

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That they and we drove out and saw the monks

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and gave them a flowering awesome.

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I'm unusually sensitive to the whole because a lot of

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my clients lately have emailed me about things they've seen

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on social media, and this is a new trend in

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the last three months, like can you believe this?

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What can I do about this?

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I'm upset about this, and so my recommendation is you

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can't control what you see on it because you think

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you've tuned your algorithm.

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You haven't.

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So if you're sensitive, turn it off because it might

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be harvesting your lower lower vibrational energies and emotions, which

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are called blush.

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But at the same time, you alluded to the files

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that just were released.

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Oh yeah, the time, A look, I stare into hell

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every day.

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I don't.

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I'm fine, you don't recommend it. Yeah, So ether if.

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You're if you're sensitive and you're you're getting really emotionally

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upset about things that you're not in geographic or real

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proximity to, it's probably not a value add for you.

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And I think a lot of us don't realize how

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much of this stuff we're taking in. Then we're holding

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in because you compartmentalize, you learn to do that, you

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push it back.

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So we went and we did.

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We drove out, you know, we got in the car

480
00:24:38.680 --> 00:24:41.640
like late Friday night, drove out in the winter storm

481
00:24:41.720 --> 00:24:43.359
to go see these monks. Because I'm like, we've got

482
00:24:43.400 --> 00:24:44.640
there are going to be a couple hours away. We've

483
00:24:44.680 --> 00:24:46.319
you guys saw them. Yeah, we went, We went and

484
00:24:46.359 --> 00:24:48.119
saw them. We stayed the night in Richmond, and we

485
00:24:48.200 --> 00:24:50.039
drove to this little town and stood on the side

486
00:24:50.039 --> 00:24:52.000
of the road freezing our butts off with our flowers,

487
00:24:52.039 --> 00:24:56.160
and and it was beautiful and and I loved it.

488
00:24:56.240 --> 00:24:58.720
I get into the car and I just lost it,

489
00:24:58.799 --> 00:25:02.200
like full on hyperventilating crime, Like it just was overwhelming.

490
00:25:02.200 --> 00:25:06.000
And I didn't realize how much of the shit I

491
00:25:06.039 --> 00:25:09.119
had been holding in, and how this incredible peace and

492
00:25:09.160 --> 00:25:10.559
love energy just whooped.

493
00:25:10.640 --> 00:25:12.559
I mean, it was like a tidal wave hit me.

494
00:25:12.599 --> 00:25:13.359
It was amazing.

495
00:25:13.640 --> 00:25:19.440
Yeah, well, as great as that was, I'm sorry, No, no,

496
00:25:19.680 --> 00:25:20.599
I don't beat sorry that.

497
00:25:20.759 --> 00:25:22.400
I'm so happy you guys did that. You did it

498
00:25:22.440 --> 00:25:26.319
in real life, that you embrace synchronous day and serendipityone.

499
00:25:25.680 --> 00:25:29.359
Well, we embrace surrender. We just let it happen. Speaking

500
00:25:29.400 --> 00:25:32.279
of surrender, Karen, when we spoke to you on the

501
00:25:32.359 --> 00:25:35.319
on the show, we talked, and even on the show today,

502
00:25:35.359 --> 00:25:39.480
you talked about the quantum mechanics of it all. We

503
00:25:39.519 --> 00:25:43.640
create our own reality type of thing. Things that are

504
00:25:43.680 --> 00:25:46.920
out of are control, things like the Epstein Files being

505
00:25:47.000 --> 00:25:52.640
released and seeing really the underbelly of the world in

506
00:25:52.759 --> 00:25:55.319
full display, something that's been going on for many, many

507
00:25:55.400 --> 00:25:58.400
years that are now to Rachel's point being brought to light,

508
00:26:00.079 --> 00:26:05.519
it makes someone feel pretty helpless rights and helpless and

509
00:26:05.559 --> 00:26:10.680
hopeless because no one's getting dragged in to court, no

510
00:26:10.720 --> 00:26:14.359
one's getting charged for anything like that. So, yes, we

511
00:26:14.440 --> 00:26:17.319
understand we create our own reality. But now this has happened,51200:26:17.440 --> 00:26:20.880



how do we get beyond this feeling of hopelessness.51300:26:21.160 --> 00:26:24.960



What I would suggest is to focus on your own resonance.51400:26:25.119 --> 00:26:28.119



So I understand there's all this injustice in the world,51500:26:28.519 --> 00:26:31.680



and I understand that it's escalating, and it can feel51600:26:31.720 --> 00:26:36.839



like there's no repercussion or justice, and as beings, it51700:26:36.880 --> 00:26:39.920



can feel very frustrating for us because we're like, why51800:26:39.960 --> 00:26:42.759



is there no justice? Why are people not being held accountable?51900:26:43.119 --> 00:26:46.759



Why isn't right being done? And you can get really52000:26:46.799 --> 00:26:50.319



pulled into a lot of fear mongering with regards to52100:26:51.640 --> 00:26:53.680



the darkness in the world. Okay, because there's a lot52200:26:53.680 --> 00:26:55.039



of darkness in the world. I don't think this is52300:26:55.039 --> 00:26:58.680



a big shocker for anybody. The thing to I think52400:26:58.720 --> 00:27:01.640



that people can be fall prey to is when that's52500:27:01.680 --> 00:27:03.680



like pulled on, do you know what I mean? It's like,52600:27:03.799 --> 00:27:05.759



now you feel start to feel more and more disempowered,52700:27:05.759 --> 00:27:07.559



more and more angry more and more all that stuff52800:27:07.640 --> 00:27:09.519



for sure. Now you're getting more and more pissed off52900:27:09.519 --> 00:27:12.720



and more and more sure, like you know in it right,53000:27:12.799 --> 00:27:15.079



mm hmm. Okay, So I'm just going to back up53100:27:15.119 --> 00:27:16.880



out of the conversation for just.53200:27:17.039 --> 00:27:21.519



A hot sec. Was it something I said, No, it's.53300:27:21.400 --> 00:27:23.720



Something I said, It's something I said or I haven't53400:27:23.759 --> 00:27:25.839



said yet. And that is like I had said at53500:27:25.880 --> 00:27:28.480



the very beginning, you are a creator being. So we53600:27:28.519 --> 00:27:31.440



don't realize that, we don't recognize how much we have53700:27:31.519 --> 00:27:33.279



power over and what it is that we create in53800:27:33.279 --> 00:27:35.799



our fields. But your reality is a reflection of you,53900:27:35.880 --> 00:27:37.319



your distortion, your beliefs.54000:27:37.000 --> 00:27:37.599



All that stuff.54100:27:38.000 --> 00:27:40.559



And the thing is, if you focus on that and54200:27:40.599 --> 00:27:43.359



you get sucked into it, you amplify it, Okay, whether54300:27:43.400 --> 00:27:45.039



you resist it or not. You And I'm not saying54400:27:45.079 --> 00:27:46.640



you shouldn't feel anger, and I'm not saying that you54500:27:46.640 --> 00:27:48.640



shouldn't feel rage, and I'm not saying that you shouldn't54600:27:48.640 --> 00:27:51.519



feel fear. Of course, feel those things. And there are54700:27:51.519 --> 00:27:55.480



like so many modalities, you know, like you have Rachel's lust,54800:27:55.519 --> 00:27:57.480



all these and you have all these different modality to54900:27:57.519 --> 00:27:59.559



like ef T and any T and all these amazing55000:27:59.599 --> 00:28:02.680



things that come up recently to help you process emotion.55100:28:03.039 --> 00:28:05.480



So my suggestion is use those things to help you55200:28:05.519 --> 00:28:08.079



to release the motion out of your nervous system, but55300:28:08.160 --> 00:28:10.240



to not hold it because the thing is, what happens55400:28:10.279 --> 00:28:12.519



when you're up in your head, you'll focus on those55500:28:12.519 --> 00:28:14.240



things and you'll start to amplify it in your own55600:28:14.279 --> 00:28:16.559



field because now you're just pissed and there's nothing you55700:28:16.599 --> 00:28:19.000



can do about it. And here you go, You're starting55800:28:19.000 --> 00:28:21.599



to amplify what it is that you're being shown that's55900:28:21.599 --> 00:28:24.559



making you disempowered, and you're amplifying it in your field.56000:28:24.640 --> 00:28:27.039



So what does that do? It drops your resonance and56100:28:27.079 --> 00:28:29.839



you start to create from that place. So the thing is,56200:28:29.880 --> 00:28:31.680



I'm not saying like close your eyes and pretends it's56300:28:31.720 --> 00:28:34.640



like freaking amazing out there when it's not. But instead56400:28:34.880 --> 00:28:37.359



to be aware of your own patterns within you, your56500:28:37.359 --> 00:28:40.720



own emotion, to use a modality to help you have56600:28:40.759 --> 00:28:43.319



the emotion and to release it at your field and56700:28:43.359 --> 00:28:46.240



then clear the patterns that are there that are creating56800:28:46.240 --> 00:28:46.920



that within you.56900:28:46.880 --> 00:28:47.039



You know.57000:28:47.039 --> 00:28:49.759



So I've talked a lot about releasing your distortion patterns,57100:28:49.920 --> 00:28:52.359



but we've gotten to the point and consciousness rising where57200:28:52.400 --> 00:28:54.440



you can actually release it at the level of the quantum,57300:28:54.440 --> 00:28:55.880



at the level of the field where it because it's57400:28:55.880 --> 00:28:58.240



first when you start to release that, you start to57500:28:58.279 --> 00:29:00.680



clarify yourself, You start to come in to yourself. And57600:29:00.720 --> 00:29:03.599



the thing is just you know, like Rachel said, if57700:29:03.640 --> 00:29:06.400



it makes you angry and you're in social media and57800:29:06.440 --> 00:29:10.400



you're watching the television, turn it off. And the thing is,57900:29:10.400 --> 00:29:12.400



it's not helping you. It just drops your resonance. So58000:29:12.440 --> 00:29:14.200



to be aware of how it impacts you, how it58100:29:14.240 --> 00:29:16.839



affects you, how does it feel to you. And the58200:29:16.920 --> 00:29:19.640



thing is, if it makes you feel worse, don't lodge58300:29:19.680 --> 00:29:22.240



it because it disempowers you. And again it drops your resonance.58400:29:22.240 --> 00:29:26.599



And now you're starting to create something that different control58500:29:26.640 --> 00:29:29.119



sources would prefer that you feel in order to create58600:29:29.160 --> 00:29:32.279



more of. So don't let them do it. So to58700:29:32.480 --> 00:29:35.240



be aware of yourself and focus on something else. So58800:29:35.480 --> 00:29:37.640



what you guys did was really beautiful because you're like, Okay,58900:29:37.880 --> 00:29:40.039



here are these monks who are doing this tremendously beautiful59000:29:40.079 --> 00:29:44.039



act selflessly in order to help bring people into a59100:29:44.079 --> 00:29:48.960



resonance of love, kindness, compassion. For us to recognize that59200:29:49.039 --> 00:29:51.200



within ourselves I mean, really, that's what we're doing. We're59300:29:51.240 --> 00:29:54.160



in training to that resonance. So the thing is that59400:29:54.240 --> 00:29:57.000



grief that you felt, Karen, and all that that you59500:29:57.119 --> 00:29:59.160



had was, you know, for all that despair that we59600:29:59.200 --> 00:30:01.440



have in humanity, to like have it and to release it,59700:30:01.759 --> 00:30:03.759



so to let it go. And the thing is, as59800:30:03.799 --> 00:30:06.799



you clarify your own resonance by releasing your distortions or59900:30:06.839 --> 00:30:09.799



whatever modality you use, it really doesn't matter what happens.60000:30:09.880 --> 00:30:14.319



Is what I've noticed in all the thousands of different60100:30:14.319 --> 00:30:16.960



people that I work with that people start to clarify60200:30:17.000 --> 00:30:18.599



and start to become more and more able to hold60300:30:18.640 --> 00:30:21.680



their center. So it doesn't mean not emotional and not caring,60400:30:21.759 --> 00:30:23.920



like I don't care that this person just died or60500:30:24.039 --> 00:30:26.559



this person was murdered. But it's like you can hold60600:30:26.599 --> 00:30:30.279



your own resonance as you are aware of what's happening,60700:30:30.599 --> 00:30:34.599



because then it's like you can sit with what is60800:30:34.640 --> 00:30:37.240



and you're not in resistance to the present moment. You're like, Okay,60900:30:37.440 --> 00:30:40.000



well that's freaking terrible, but I don't need it to61000:30:40.119 --> 00:30:43.279



drop my resonance. I don't know if that distinction makes sense,61100:30:43.680 --> 00:30:47.000



but there's one thing to watch, something to understand that61200:30:47.039 --> 00:30:50.480



it's happening to have an awareness and to hold your61300:30:50.559 --> 00:30:53.880



resonance despite watching it, right, because you're like, Okay, I61400:30:54.279 --> 00:30:56.839



accept I see that that has happened. I'm not arguing61500:30:56.839 --> 00:30:58.519



with it. It is right there in the present moment61600:30:58.559 --> 00:31:01.480



with me. But I can choose to hold my resonance up.61700:31:01.759 --> 00:31:04.319



And it's the same kind of act as those monks61800:31:04.359 --> 00:31:08.599



are doing. Those monks are walking in the cold and61900:31:08.640 --> 00:31:11.920



in the wet and in the snow holding a resonance62000:31:12.279 --> 00:31:15.160



and the emanation of love despite what the hell is62100:31:15.160 --> 00:31:17.839



happening around them. You can do the same thing in62200:31:17.880 --> 00:31:21.359



your a little way, right. It's the same act of defiance. Really,62300:31:21.680 --> 00:31:24.480



It's like I choose to hold a higher residence.62400:31:24.559 --> 00:31:25.880



I choose it. I don't.62500:31:25.960 --> 00:31:28.160



I'm not being made to do something that you know62600:31:28.200 --> 00:31:31.519



what I mean, Because when you watch stuff, you feel disempowered,62700:31:31.839 --> 00:31:35.000



But the thing is you're having that response. So it's like, okay, well,62800:31:35.039 --> 00:31:36.799



can I clear the stuff that puts me in that62900:31:36.839 --> 00:31:39.680



disempowerment and then hold something of a higher resonance so63000:31:39.720 --> 00:31:42.200



that others can hold that too, just like it inspired63100:31:42.240 --> 00:31:43.799



you to hold a higher residence yourself.63200:31:44.000 --> 00:31:44.799



When you watch those.63300:31:44.640 --> 00:31:46.880



Moms and even they are such the embodiment of that63400:31:46.920 --> 00:31:48.559



because I don't know how much you know about them,63500:31:48.559 --> 00:31:49.799



but I've been obsessed with these guys.63600:31:49.839 --> 00:31:52.240



And they had a dog, yes, and you the dog.63700:31:53.079 --> 00:31:53.279



Yeah.63800:31:53.599 --> 00:31:55.359



Well I don't know if you know, but like so,63900:31:55.599 --> 00:31:57.680



there was one of they have this truck that kind64000:31:57.680 --> 00:31:59.920



of follows them, and I don't know, a couple months back,64100:32:00.000 --> 00:32:02.799



because they've been doing this now for over one hundred days,64200:32:03.319 --> 00:32:06.279



a car came flying into the highway. Didn't realize how64300:32:06.279 --> 00:32:08.039



some of the truckles going hit the truck. The truck hit64400:32:08.160 --> 00:32:09.640



I think two of the monks and one of them64500:32:09.680 --> 00:32:13.240



lost his leg. And he's not angry about it, you know.64600:32:13.400 --> 00:32:16.559



I mean, obviously it's a disappointing things, but I know64700:32:17.079 --> 00:32:19.039



when he talks about it, he's just like, well, you know,64800:32:19.160 --> 00:32:21.079



kind of this is this is what happened, and this64900:32:21.119 --> 00:32:23.720



is what it is, and you know it wasn't intentional,65000:32:23.759 --> 00:32:25.880



it's you know, and he's still that that he still65100:32:25.880 --> 00:32:27.720



has his residence. I guess it's kind of what you65200:32:27.759 --> 00:32:28.880



were saying. It is just incredible.65300:32:28.920 --> 00:32:31.400



It's just like their dodge says, right, it begins with me,65400:32:31.599 --> 00:32:32.640



Let peace begin with me.65500:32:33.559 --> 00:32:36.559



That and one quick thing about what Karen was just saying, guys,65600:32:36.680 --> 00:32:39.039



is how that's how you don't feed as I call them,65700:32:39.039 --> 00:32:42.559



the animals and shamanism. We believe in energy, parasites and65800:32:42.599 --> 00:32:46.680



negative entities the process she just described. And I expect65900:32:47.279 --> 00:32:50.000



our other friend here, Gabrielle, is going to give suggestions too.66000:32:50.039 --> 00:32:53.920



But it's not just about working through your stuff. Don't66100:32:53.960 --> 00:32:57.160



feed the animals that cause the chaos, right right, So66200:32:57.240 --> 00:32:58.799



starved them out, guys.66300:32:59.480 --> 00:33:02.559



Gabriel's she just fed you the line. So what.66400:33:05.039 --> 00:33:08.079



Sorry, I didn't know, Gabrielle. Are you into not feeding demons?66500:33:08.240 --> 00:33:10.839



You and I should my club and give out merit badges.66600:33:11.279 --> 00:33:15.160



I know it's totally it's wild, so okay, yeah, well66700:33:15.240 --> 00:33:17.960



thank you for I think the question is do I66800:33:18.039 --> 00:33:20.599



feed demons? I try not to. I caught myself this66900:33:20.680 --> 00:33:23.839



more feeding with the whole, like you know, speaking of67000:33:23.880 --> 00:33:25.799



the Epstein files where I caught myself. I was like,67100:33:25.799 --> 00:33:28.200



oh god, wait stop, Like this is actually like an67200:33:28.319 --> 00:33:31.440



energy harvest. This was released strategically. There's a reason no67300:33:31.480 --> 00:33:33.920



one has gone to jail, like, and I caught myself67400:33:33.960 --> 00:33:36.039



and I was like, oh, they're trying to harvest your energy.67500:33:36.079 --> 00:33:39.119



And the more energy that you give anything for that matter,67600:33:39.200 --> 00:33:43.119



it's going to grow. And I was like very much67700:33:43.160 --> 00:33:44.599



caught myself, and I was like, yeah, we're not going67800:33:44.599 --> 00:33:47.440



to put that information to my subconscious and or conscious mind.67900:33:47.559 --> 00:33:50.240



So yeah, I try to be aware of it.68000:33:51.519 --> 00:33:53.319



I did the same thing. I've not looked at a68100:33:53.319 --> 00:33:55.839



single file. I'm not interested. I know there's nothing i68200:33:55.880 --> 00:33:57.359



can do about it, and it's all I's going to68300:33:57.400 --> 00:33:58.480



do is piss me off.68400:33:58.519 --> 00:34:02.400



And I'm already I read them all when Wikilicks came out, Oh,68500:34:03.599 --> 00:34:05.920



I'm oga like that, and so this to me, I68600:34:05.960 --> 00:34:08.519



was like, yeah, cool, that's why I said twenty twenty six.68700:34:08.559 --> 00:34:10.559



I feel really if I was like, oh everybody Hope.68800:34:10.840 --> 00:34:13.239



Is reading these me.68900:34:13.400 --> 00:34:17.880



Yeah well, and like now we can like hang out and.69000:34:18.000 --> 00:34:18.800



Talk about it.69100:34:19.440 --> 00:34:23.920



Yeah well, so, guys. Is part of the problem here,69200:34:24.039 --> 00:34:27.519



the fact that we've been living in like tense times69300:34:28.079 --> 00:34:31.440



that we're seeing into things, like we're reading into these69400:34:31.480 --> 00:34:36.559



astrology or predictions that are coming out and assuming the worst.69500:34:36.880 --> 00:34:39.800



Gabrielle is if a tree, if an astrological tree falls69600:34:39.800 --> 00:34:41.280



in the woods and no one's there to hear it,69700:34:41.320 --> 00:34:42.079



did it really fall?69800:34:42.400 --> 00:34:45.519



I mean, I would love to hear your thoughts on it,69900:34:45.599 --> 00:34:47.840



and Karen as well. I think what's going to happen70000:34:47.880 --> 00:34:51.360



is going to happen. I still stand by a lot70100:34:51.400 --> 00:34:56.280



of you know, nervous system work regulation. It's impacting your70200:34:56.360 --> 00:34:59.480



chart in a specific way, and the only way to70300:35:00.239 --> 00:35:02.719



go through it is to quite literally grow through it.70400:35:02.960 --> 00:35:06.320



So and grow through it. So yeah, I would love70500:35:06.360 --> 00:35:09.000



to know, you know, carring your thoughts on it.70600:35:09.480 --> 00:35:13.760



From my perspective, it's fascinating the idea of predictions. The70700:35:13.880 --> 00:35:17.760



quantum field is infinite. There are infinite timelines and infinite possibilities,70800:35:18.199 --> 00:35:21.880



and so the thing is when people make predictions, what70900:35:21.920 --> 00:35:24.639



they're really doing is they're reading probability in the field.71000:35:25.639 --> 00:35:28.360



But the thing is that we don't recognize, I think71100:35:28.679 --> 00:35:31.039



really at this level of consciousness and are starting to71200:35:31.079 --> 00:35:32.920



wake up to more and more, is that a single71300:35:33.000 --> 00:35:36.599



person can shift things in terms of the resonance that71400:35:36.599 --> 00:35:38.639



they have. And it's not a one to one thing71500:35:38.840 --> 00:35:41.239



like everyone's at the same level of resonance and then71600:35:41.280 --> 00:35:43.880



therefore the impact on the field of the same it's71700:35:43.920 --> 00:35:46.440



totally It depends on the resonance level you are. The71800:35:46.480 --> 00:35:48.119



higher in resonance you are, and I'm not talking about71900:35:48.119 --> 00:35:50.679



anybody being chosen. Okay, So before anyone freaks out, I'm72000:35:50.719 --> 00:35:53.000



not saying there's like chosen ones or anything weird. It72100:35:53.119 --> 00:35:54.480



just has to do with resonance level.72200:35:54.599 --> 00:35:54.960



Okay.72300:35:55.079 --> 00:35:57.679



So the higher your resonance, the more ripple effect you72400:35:57.719 --> 00:35:59.400



have into the field. It's just the way it is.72500:36:00.039 --> 00:36:03.519



So the thing is, there is nothing fixed in the72600:36:03.599 --> 00:36:06.960



quantum field. The quantum is constantly moving, it's constantly changing.72700:36:07.000 --> 00:36:09.039



There is nothing fixed. The only thing that makes things72800:36:09.079 --> 00:36:11.719



fixed and certain is your attention, your focus, in your resonance.72900:36:12.039 --> 00:36:14.760



So we as humans tend to fix things into solidity73000:36:14.800 --> 00:36:17.599



with our habituation, our focus, and our resonance what we73100:36:17.719 --> 00:36:20.239



choose to focus on. And so the thing is, if73200:36:20.280 --> 00:36:23.360



you start to raise your own resonance, however you choose73300:36:23.400 --> 00:36:24.559



to do that, And we're all sort of saying the73400:36:24.559 --> 00:36:27.519



same thing in different vocabulary, but really we're saying the73500:36:27.559 --> 00:36:30.719



same thing. As you choose to release those things within73600:36:30.800 --> 00:36:33.800



you that cause you to focus on those things, the73700:36:33.800 --> 00:36:36.760



distortion patterns that lead you to go into fear, that73800:36:37.079 --> 00:36:39.719



pull you into self doubt, that have you go into73900:36:40.239 --> 00:36:43.679



you know, terror around the loss of control. What happens74000:36:43.679 --> 00:36:46.400



when you release that is just like the monk who's74100:36:46.519 --> 00:36:51.760



leg got you know whatever by the fan. It's odd74200:36:51.880 --> 00:36:54.960



because you come into a space where you're like in74300:36:55.039 --> 00:36:57.880



acceptance with what is. He's not fighting what is, Like74400:36:58.000 --> 00:37:01.079



it happened. He can't change it happens, right, So he's like,74500:37:01.719 --> 00:37:05.000



I am okay with what I what is? But the74600:37:05.039 --> 00:37:08.480



thing is about predictions is because we are so like74700:37:09.039 --> 00:37:12.760



insistent as humans, as like needing certainty, like this is74800:37:12.760 --> 00:37:14.719



going to happen on this date and it's going to74900:37:14.840 --> 00:37:17.119



look like this, then I can plan, you know. Then75000:37:17.119 --> 00:37:20.119



I can like kind of like set out my like Okay,75100:37:20.320 --> 00:37:22.079



well if this happens, then I'll do this, and if75200:37:22.079 --> 00:37:26.239



that happens, I'll do that. But the amazing thing that's75300:37:26.519 --> 00:37:30.000



possible as your resonance rises, and as you move more75400:37:30.000 --> 00:37:32.760



into the surrender state into the present moment of than75500:37:32.800 --> 00:37:37.039



your time, you start to recognize your ability as creator75600:37:37.079 --> 00:37:41.039



being to impact things with your resonance. So it changes75700:37:41.199 --> 00:37:43.719



what the outcome is. Now the story I told you75800:37:43.760 --> 00:37:47.000



about that woman in the bomb shelter who caused what?75900:37:48.000 --> 00:37:49.719



Like what can you can we say it was her?76000:37:49.800 --> 00:37:49.960



Oh?76100:37:49.960 --> 00:37:51.000



Boy, say it was her?76200:37:51.199 --> 00:37:54.400



You know who causes what? And the thing is I76300:37:54.480 --> 00:37:59.679



thought we were supposed to get along. So the thing76400:37:59.760 --> 00:38:03.559



is from my perspective. Yeah, yeah, so the thing is76500:38:03.679 --> 00:38:07.840



from my perspective anyway. The probability of things happening, yes,76600:38:07.920 --> 00:38:11.320



for sure, But at the you know, what we choose76700:38:11.360 --> 00:38:15.840



individually and collectively can shift outcome really at the very76800:38:15.920 --> 00:38:18.639



moment that it's happening. That's the amazing thing. That's what76900:38:18.760 --> 00:38:22.039



being a creator being is you can shift things, even77000:38:22.239 --> 00:38:25.679



like in a very short period of time. So I77100:38:25.719 --> 00:38:28.480



think the thing is to remember that and that if77200:38:28.519 --> 00:38:31.800



somebody predicts something, the question is how much do you77300:38:31.800 --> 00:38:34.440



want to internalize that as a truth for you and77400:38:34.480 --> 00:38:36.920



how do you want to hold that in your field?77500:38:37.000 --> 00:38:37.639



Do you know what I mean?77600:38:37.800 --> 00:38:39.920



And I think with the fear mongering, it can be77700:38:39.960 --> 00:38:42.280



really easy to like drop your resonance as a result,77800:38:42.960 --> 00:38:45.519



And there are things that are really hopeful, And the77900:38:45.559 --> 00:38:47.000



thing is, well, what are you good to choose to78000:38:47.039 --> 00:38:49.519



focus on and how can you raise your resonance to78100:38:49.920 --> 00:38:52.840



not only help yourself but help others. And you know,78200:38:52.960 --> 00:38:55.559



as we've all been saying, you know, we have different78300:38:55.639 --> 00:38:58.159



clients who have amazing things happening this year. It really78400:38:58.239 --> 00:39:00.800



kind of depends on what's happening for you. And I78500:39:00.880 --> 00:39:03.440



feel like in the people that I'm working with and78600:39:03.440 --> 00:39:05.880



what I'm seeing is that people are having a tremendous78700:39:05.880 --> 00:39:08.760



awakening at this time. Like the amount of shift that78800:39:08.800 --> 00:39:12.039



people are happening having right now in terms of remembering78900:39:12.039 --> 00:39:14.480



who they are and the brilliance they are and how79000:39:14.559 --> 00:39:18.360



much they just are. I mean, it sounds a little lame,79100:39:18.400 --> 00:39:20.679



I guess, but it's just like lighting up. It's kind79200:39:20.679 --> 00:39:24.639



of amazing. And it's not just you know, the people79300:39:24.679 --> 00:39:28.599



who you know who are have been in spirituality for79400:39:28.639 --> 00:39:30.639



a long time. These are people who are like just79500:39:30.719 --> 00:39:33.960



discovering this like for the first time and sort of79600:39:33.960 --> 00:39:35.719



really opening to it. So it's kind of a really79700:39:35.960 --> 00:39:38.760



spectacular time. I think we've all been saying. And I79800:39:38.800 --> 00:39:42.280



think that the thing with prediction is, like I said,79900:39:42.360 --> 00:39:45.480



it's about your relationship in terms of what you want80000:39:45.519 --> 00:39:48.360



to internalize and where do you place your power. Do80100:39:48.400 --> 00:39:50.880



you place it in the thing that someone's telling to80200:39:50.920 --> 00:39:53.440



you and you play into the fear around it or80300:39:53.480 --> 00:39:56.199



the certainty, or can you hold your space, Can you80400:39:56.280 --> 00:39:58.119



sit in your own residence and be like, Okay, well80500:39:58.119 --> 00:39:59.280



I'm going to sit with that. I don't know if80600:39:59.320 --> 00:40:00.840



that's true for me, you know what I mean, And80700:40:00.880 --> 00:40:04.079



I think that's an important thing when people are telling80800:40:04.119 --> 00:40:06.320



you that certain things will definitely happen for you.80900:40:07.679 --> 00:40:10.039



Well, on the flip side of things, Gabrielle, a question81000:40:10.119 --> 00:40:12.960



for you, what's a better question people could ask instead81100:40:13.000 --> 00:40:16.119



of is this going to happen? What's a better question81200:40:16.119 --> 00:40:17.119



that they can ask instead?81300:40:18.079 --> 00:40:21.599



How can I best prepare for such and such so81400:40:21.679 --> 00:40:24.000



I can show up as the highest version of myself81500:40:25.119 --> 00:40:29.400



with non attachment if possible. So yeah, I think attachment81600:40:29.519 --> 00:40:31.039



based off of what Kara was just saying, is a81700:40:31.039 --> 00:40:33.239



big thing too, because then you're kind of just kind81800:40:33.239 --> 00:40:35.159



of I don't want to say, putting yourself into like81900:40:35.199 --> 00:40:37.960



a pigeonhole, but it's you're not giving a universes much82000:40:38.000 --> 00:40:40.000



to work with if you're so fixed on one outcome,82100:40:40.000 --> 00:40:42.360



when there's so many different and possibly better and more82200:40:42.400 --> 00:40:44.440



beautiful ways that the divine can show up for you82300:40:44.519 --> 00:40:47.920



and you two can CoCreate and work with one another.82400:40:48.400 --> 00:40:51.119



So with I'm sorry, Noah, with all the you know,82500:40:51.199 --> 00:40:55.480



multiple timelines and everything weird, maybe a weird question, Gabrielle.82600:40:55.559 --> 00:40:58.920



Have you ever met with someone done their charts and82700:40:58.960 --> 00:41:01.239



then maybe they are doing and some morgan and changing82800:41:01.239 --> 00:41:02.400



their resonance.82900:41:02.079 --> 00:41:06.400



Or whatever and not feeding the demons.83000:41:06.039 --> 00:41:08.039



Not feeding the demons, and then meet with them again83100:41:08.039 --> 00:41:09.199



and their chart looks different.83200:41:09.400 --> 00:41:11.519



Yeah, I think that's inevitable. I mean, the planets are83300:41:11.559 --> 00:41:17.519



always moving. But what I've noticed is what like so there.83400:41:17.519 --> 00:41:21.800



I haven't directly had specific outcomes where I've had clients83500:41:21.800 --> 00:41:23.400



come back and tell me like, oh, you said this,83600:41:23.480 --> 00:41:27.079



but this actually happened because I couldn't accept what you83700:41:27.119 --> 00:41:29.360



know you had shared with me as a possible prediction.83800:41:29.440 --> 00:41:31.760



Not that I you know, I don't have attachment to83900:41:32.079 --> 00:41:35.440



my predictions. I've just found that because I lived more84000:41:35.440 --> 00:41:37.559



in my upper four chakras, that's what naturally came to84100:41:38.320 --> 00:41:40.400



easily to day. To me, I would say more easily.84200:41:41.280 --> 00:41:45.159



I identify as a clairvoyant, and so it's definitely a lineage84300:41:45.199 --> 00:41:48.679



thing for me. But I would love for that to84400:41:48.760 --> 00:41:51.400



happen because I would think that it would be that84500:41:51.440 --> 00:41:54.400



person be like, you know what, I can't accept this84600:41:54.960 --> 00:41:58.519



possible outcome. I'm going to choose to do better for myself.84700:41:59.079 --> 00:42:01.760



One example that coming to mind is my mentor, one84800:42:01.760 --> 00:42:04.559



of my mentors, she had relayed to a client that84900:42:04.599 --> 00:42:07.239



she had that who was severely obese, and she was like,85000:42:07.320 --> 00:42:10.599



I don't see you losing this two hundred plus pounds, right,85100:42:11.000 --> 00:42:12.679



and the client she was speaking to, and it really85200:42:12.719 --> 00:42:15.119



sat with me as I was in training, and she85300:42:15.239 --> 00:42:17.119



was like, I just couldn't accept that, like I could85400:42:17.119 --> 00:42:20.320



not accept that outcome. And she took accountability her own85500:42:20.320 --> 00:42:23.760



free will and she met up with my mentor like85600:42:23.760 --> 00:42:26.239



eight months later, maybe even like a year, I forget85700:42:26.239 --> 00:42:28.480



the time frame, and she had lost the weight. And85800:42:28.519 --> 00:42:32.119



so I think that there's for the fate versus free85900:42:32.119 --> 00:42:35.159



will type of conversation definitely plays a role in this.86000:42:35.400 --> 00:42:40.039



And I think the astrology is just allowing more insight86100:42:40.079 --> 00:42:41.239



for one potential.86200:42:40.880 --> 00:42:45.320



Outcome, right, So it's like an early warning system like86300:42:45.360 --> 00:42:45.920



this could.86400:42:45.760 --> 00:42:48.679



Be the situation, right, but you can make it better.86500:42:48.840 --> 00:42:52.039



Yeah. I don't know that that incorrect me if I'm wrong, ladies,86600:42:52.039 --> 00:42:54.800



But I don't think that whether it's astrology or any86700:42:54.840 --> 00:42:58.679



other modality, actually says this is what's going to happen86800:42:58.760 --> 00:43:01.480



to you, or this is what's happened what's about to happen,86900:43:01.559 --> 00:43:05.079



but rather, these are some potentials that you need to87000:43:05.119 --> 00:43:07.880



watch out for, and that way you are pre warned,87100:43:07.880 --> 00:43:11.280



and you can make choices that would lead you down87200:43:11.320 --> 00:43:13.320



the path that makes the most sense that you would87300:43:13.360 --> 00:43:15.760



want to go, or it might be a karmic thing, right,87400:43:15.840 --> 00:43:19.360



it's so. But but to your point, Karen, we do87500:43:19.480 --> 00:43:22.639



have the ability, if we are in residence with our87600:43:22.920 --> 00:43:25.559



highest good, to go down the path that makes the87700:43:25.599 --> 00:43:30.400



most sense to us. Whether sometimes a path is rocky87800:43:30.760 --> 00:43:37.000



and challenging, and that's for our greater good, and worrying87900:43:37.000 --> 00:43:38.920



about it is. All that's going to do is you know,88000:43:39.280 --> 00:43:43.519



make it harder. When I had to go to oral surgery,88100:43:43.760 --> 00:43:47.960



well a few months ago already behind me, thank god,88200:43:47.960 --> 00:43:52.159



but I was a wreck. There's nothing worse in my88300:43:52.199 --> 00:43:56.199



mind in oral flipping surgery, right, that's the worst possible thing.88400:43:56.280 --> 00:43:59.199



So I the whole time I was sitting super tense,88500:43:59.239 --> 00:44:06.599



and so the likelihood that the procedure was going to88600:44:06.639 --> 00:44:10.280



go smoothly it was probably not as high as if88700:44:10.280 --> 00:44:12.360



I had just been nice and relaxed and knowing, hey,88800:44:12.559 --> 00:44:14.280



I'm putting it down to the universe and whatever's meant88900:44:14.320 --> 00:44:19.000



to happens is going to have happened. Right, Thankfully, everything worked out. Okay.89000:44:20.920 --> 00:44:24.599



There's a term for that though, and it's willism, So89100:44:24.639 --> 00:44:27.079



I want to give you a compliment. You weren't doing89200:44:27.639 --> 00:44:30.679



totally all the wrong things. So I have a sphericut.89300:44:30.719 --> 00:44:32.119



I don't know if I talked to you guys before89400:44:32.159 --> 00:44:35.639



or after my new fun friend who destroyed everything came in.89500:44:35.880 --> 00:44:36.079



Huh.89600:44:36.239 --> 00:44:38.519



But I've been working with Prometheus, and I've been reading89700:44:38.559 --> 00:44:42.400



all the old Greek stuff with the ancient stuff about him,89800:44:42.639 --> 00:44:44.400



and he's a god of prophecy. See your questions to89900:44:44.440 --> 00:44:48.360



everybody about this world of prophecy, etc. I think it's90000:44:48.360 --> 00:44:51.880



interesting that him is the actual oldest document. I got90100:44:51.880 --> 00:44:55.199



a prophecy gave free will to humans.90200:44:55.119 --> 00:44:58.400



And he's as thank you. He's trapped now in a90300:44:58.440 --> 00:45:01.880



mountain being eaten by roultures. No, he got out Hercules.90400:45:02.079 --> 00:45:03.119



Hercules let him down.90500:45:03.159 --> 00:45:05.719



It's a whole it's a whole thing that I discovered90600:45:05.760 --> 00:45:09.199



recently in my readings. But you know, to your point90700:45:09.239 --> 00:45:11.920



about what you went through, there's there's a Russian word,90800:45:12.119 --> 00:45:15.400



it's like Germanic Russian for this that comes from his90900:45:15.480 --> 00:45:19.199



experience being basically crucified to the side of the Caucaus91000:45:19.199 --> 00:45:22.440



mountains right for his sin against Zeus, which is called91100:45:22.519 --> 00:45:27.239



tosca and tosca means an intense spiritual suffering that you91200:45:27.280 --> 00:45:31.119



cannot be passive in, but you must endure and feel.91300:45:31.719 --> 00:45:34.559



But that transmutes you. You know, you can always count91400:45:34.599 --> 00:45:37.199



on Russia and potask you for things like this.91500:45:37.360 --> 00:45:39.280



Yeah, yeah, and you know.91600:45:39.239 --> 00:45:42.599



So there's something, there's a value in going into your91700:45:42.719 --> 00:45:47.480



oral surgery tense. I would tell you, maybe it's not optimized,91800:45:47.840 --> 00:45:50.119



but you're gonna get You're gonna get the benefits of91900:45:50.159 --> 00:45:54.920



tosca well and if yeah, and so it is what92000:45:54.960 --> 00:45:55.639



it is, man.92100:45:55.599 --> 00:45:58.079



But if you survive, if you remember how I looked92200:45:58.239 --> 00:46:01.320



when we first met h I was a few years ago.92300:46:01.920 --> 00:46:04.960



I looked way younger than I do now because of92400:46:04.960 --> 00:46:07.719



the oral surgery I aids and like overnight, yeah.92500:46:08.400 --> 00:46:12.440



He was like Marie Antoinette, Oh my.92600:46:12.599 --> 00:46:16.039



Uh my portrait, my painting in the closet got smashed92700:46:16.039 --> 00:46:17.039



because sudden I got.92800:46:16.920 --> 00:46:21.360



Old portrait of Dori and grap I went and grabbed92900:46:21.400 --> 00:46:23.960



these for you guys. Because everybody talking about playing around93000:46:24.000 --> 00:46:26.679



with prophecy and what you hear and all these things93100:46:26.719 --> 00:46:28.920



and how you play with free will and prophecy, right,93200:46:29.159 --> 00:46:31.800



because I get people readings, but I always say to them,93300:46:31.840 --> 00:46:34.440



like how you gamify this, how you interact with this93400:46:35.199 --> 00:46:40.280



determines everything. That's the that's the unpredictable variable in our world.93500:46:40.320 --> 00:46:43.639



That's the thing that makes us sort of unconquerable. So93600:46:44.199 --> 00:46:45.599



to your point here, and you're like, is it just93700:46:45.599 --> 00:46:47.519



that we've been looking at this. I think the world's93800:46:47.559 --> 00:46:50.039



always been dark since the beginning. I actually think it's93900:46:50.039 --> 00:46:52.239



the best time to be alive ever right now, because94000:46:52.239 --> 00:46:55.360



we're looking at it together. And also, you know, if94100:46:55.400 --> 00:46:58.440



it's always been here and it's hard, play with it.94200:46:58.480 --> 00:47:00.199



So I went on a walk. I wrote about this94300:47:00.280 --> 00:47:02.679



on substack. I'll send it to you guys. And I94400:47:02.760 --> 00:47:04.920



was thinking about my lawsuit because I'm suing somebody. I94500:47:04.960 --> 00:47:07.039



hate lawsuits, but I had to do it because I94600:47:07.079 --> 00:47:09.639



got very sick and someone was responsible in a book94700:47:09.679 --> 00:47:12.320



I'm writing, and all of this seemed writing a book94800:47:12.320 --> 00:47:14.159



in the middle of a lawsuit not making any money94900:47:14.199 --> 00:47:17.320



sick is nuts, but it's exactly what someone like me95000:47:17.360 --> 00:47:19.400



would do. And I'm walking and I look down when95100:47:19.440 --> 00:47:21.719



I'm thinking about lawsuit, and I see this dice down95200:47:21.760 --> 00:47:23.760



on the street. I'm not kidding, facing up to six95300:47:24.320 --> 00:47:24.920



and I looked down.95400:47:24.960 --> 00:47:25.440



I picked it up.95500:47:25.480 --> 00:47:27.320



I was like, it's probably came out of a garbage95600:47:27.360 --> 00:47:30.440



can on trash dare or whatever. Right, But I had95700:47:30.440 --> 00:47:34.239



this strangely euphoric feeling right before I found it, and95800:47:34.280 --> 00:47:37.800



then I started thinking about my book same wash. I95900:47:37.880 --> 00:47:41.280



looked down facing up to six completely different set of diceol.96000:47:41.440 --> 00:47:44.079



So I took these home that day, and I had96100:47:44.119 --> 00:47:44.400



no idea.96200:47:44.480 --> 00:47:49.239



My lawyer had filed that day, and it was the96300:47:49.280 --> 00:47:51.679



new moon and Sagittarius, all these other things are going on,96400:47:52.400 --> 00:47:55.239



and I Prometheus, who's been in my spirit. I had96500:47:55.280 --> 00:47:57.519



been missing for months, probably because I was sick, by96600:47:57.519 --> 00:47:59.400



the way. We'll talk about that some other time. But96700:48:00.199 --> 00:48:02.559



back online, I got a phrase and he said, once more,96800:48:02.639 --> 00:48:07.960



onto the breed in like a playful like play with this,96900:48:08.199 --> 00:48:11.199



look for the signs and synchronicities instead of white knuckling.97000:48:11.400 --> 00:48:14.360



To Gabrielle and Karen's point, like don't force it, don't97100:48:14.360 --> 00:48:17.320



horse it. But if you play with it, if you97200:48:17.360 --> 00:48:21.719



get into a more impish if you will energy with97300:48:21.880 --> 00:48:25.199



it and you collaborate with spirit, you collaborate with prophecy,97400:48:25.239 --> 00:48:27.320



I think you'll do well in twenty twenty six.97500:48:27.559 --> 00:48:31.119



Actually, so ride the wave, don't fight it well.97600:48:31.119 --> 00:48:33.320



And it's you know what a great metaphor for Like97700:48:33.679 --> 00:48:36.039



you know, I learned because I posted this at Clanko's.97800:48:36.199 --> 00:48:39.719



My husband said, you've you've rolled. God, there's a phrase97900:48:39.760 --> 00:48:40.000



for it.98000:48:40.360 --> 00:48:42.760



I can't remember it. Thank you box cars. So you98100:48:42.760 --> 00:48:43.239



can tell I.98200:48:43.159 --> 00:48:45.719



Don't gamble and you get to roll for anything else98300:48:45.760 --> 00:48:50.440



you want now. And I was like, I had no clue.98400:48:50.559 --> 00:48:54.119



This client emails me and tells me about that, and98500:48:54.159 --> 00:48:56.559



so maybe twenty twenty six is box cars.98600:48:57.000 --> 00:48:59.400



Well I like that. I like that thought. Yeah, Karon,98700:48:59.559 --> 00:49:01.480



you had you wanted to say something.98800:49:01.360 --> 00:49:05.280



Yeah, I just wanted to add to what Rachel's saying98900:49:05.320 --> 00:49:09.760



in terms of play. So from my perspective, play is99000:49:09.760 --> 00:49:12.840



really important. And I think that as people who are99100:49:12.840 --> 00:49:17.920



interested in spirit and interested in beyond the veil, or99200:49:18.039 --> 00:49:21.119



interested in the non ordinary, we can get really serious,99300:49:21.280 --> 00:49:22.760



you know what I mean, And we can think of99400:49:22.840 --> 00:49:24.599



all the stuff that's coming in twenty twenty six and99500:49:24.599 --> 00:49:26.559



the apocalypse and all this sort of stuff. It's very99600:49:26.599 --> 00:49:30.920



heavy and it's very serious, but there is something very99700:49:30.960 --> 00:49:34.840



powerful about play, and that is something that brings you.99800:49:35.079 --> 00:49:37.480



If you watch a child play, they're not really thinking99900:49:37.480 --> 00:49:39.760



about what's happening in the future. They're not thinking about100000:49:39.760 --> 00:49:41.519



what happened in the past. They're thinking about now, and100100:49:41.519 --> 00:49:44.239



they're just playing for the sheer pleasure of it, right,100200:49:44.239 --> 00:49:47.400



They're just playing, And there's something very heart centered about that.100300:49:47.440 --> 00:49:49.400



It's not in their head. They're not trying to plan something,100400:49:49.440 --> 00:49:52.039



they're not strategizing, they're not trying to get to an outcome.100500:49:52.079 --> 00:49:55.159



They're just here playing because it's fun. And I think100600:49:55.159 --> 00:49:58.079



that we've lost that to some degree in our culture.100700:49:58.119 --> 00:49:59.960



And I don't know, I guess is just being adults.100800:50:00.360 --> 00:50:03.559



And I think play is super important because it can100900:50:03.599 --> 00:50:05.960



shift you. I mean, like even someone making you laugh101000:50:06.320 --> 00:50:08.519



right when you're getting really serious can shift your state.101100:50:08.519 --> 00:50:10.400



It can shift your resonance and can shift it up.101200:50:10.639 --> 00:50:14.400



And when that happens, things change around you, you know101300:50:14.440 --> 00:50:17.159



what I mean. And it's funny because we can sometimes resist,101400:50:17.519 --> 00:50:18.920



you know, when someone you know you're in like a101500:50:18.920 --> 00:50:20.920



funk or whatever, and let's just say your partner is101600:50:20.960 --> 00:50:22.760



noticing that you're in a funk and they kind.101700:50:22.639 --> 00:50:23.440



Of try to make you laugh.101800:50:23.480 --> 00:50:27.199



You're like, screw you, I'm not gonna laugh, you know101900:50:27.239 --> 00:50:29.199



what I mean, even though they're trying to make you laugh,102000:50:29.239 --> 00:50:31.920



And at some point you laugh but despite yourself and102100:50:31.960 --> 00:50:32.679



you feel better.102200:50:32.960 --> 00:50:33.199



Right.102300:50:33.519 --> 00:50:36.360



So there's something about play that's really important. And there's102400:50:36.400 --> 00:50:39.000



this sort of like joyfulness, And there's a weird sort102500:50:39.039 --> 00:50:42.199



of phenomenon that happens, I think in our culture where102600:50:42.400 --> 00:50:45.000



it's like if they're suffering, you're not supposed to be joyful.102700:50:45.320 --> 00:50:48.599



It's really strange, like we're taught that it's inappropriate. But102800:50:48.639 --> 00:50:51.239



the thing is, I feel like I'm not talking about102900:50:51.280 --> 00:50:53.519



making fun of anyone's suffering or anything weird like that,103000:50:53.920 --> 00:50:56.360



but I'm just saying there's a sort of lightheartedness that103100:50:56.400 --> 00:50:59.400



we're not really allowing ourselves often that I think is103200:50:59.440 --> 00:51:03.199



important because it boys your resonance and it can really103300:51:03.320 --> 00:51:07.719



change things. I mean it just because again, everything is103400:51:07.760 --> 00:51:10.360



a reflection of your reality. So for example, I was103500:51:10.440 --> 00:51:14.880



just the other day I had to call my banking103600:51:14.920 --> 00:51:16.840



institution and I was on the phone for like five103700:51:16.960 --> 00:51:18.639



or six hours, and I was really getting up into103800:51:18.639 --> 00:51:20.920



my head and I was getting really frustrated and really103900:51:20.920 --> 00:51:23.239



angry and really pissed off because it's taking all my104000:51:23.360 --> 00:51:26.039



time and it really shouldn't be and it's so simple104100:51:26.039 --> 00:51:27.559



and why don't they just do it? And I start104200:51:27.639 --> 00:51:30.239



to have this fear that, oh my god, maybe I'm104300:51:30.239 --> 00:51:31.679



just gonna have to be fighting with them for this104400:51:31.800 --> 00:51:34.239



long time to get access to these assets that I need.104500:51:35.639 --> 00:51:38.360



So anyway, I recognized that I was doing this, and104600:51:38.559 --> 00:51:41.280



I went off and I went into my meditation. I104700:51:41.320 --> 00:51:43.960



was like, okay, Karen, you're just like so in your head,104800:51:44.360 --> 00:51:48.000



and I think that you've forgotten that what it is104900:51:48.039 --> 00:51:49.639



that you talk about all the time, which is that105000:51:49.719 --> 00:51:52.280



you are creative being. So I just like, okay, I'm105100:51:52.280 --> 00:51:54.800



just gonna drop into my heart space. So I'm just105200:51:54.840 --> 00:51:58.119



gonna okay, And I know that sounds like a little fluffy,105300:51:58.159 --> 00:51:59.920



but it's really important. I was like, be aware of105400:51:59.920 --> 00:52:02.559



your heart, be aware of like you in the present moment,105500:52:02.599 --> 00:52:04.480



be aware of the light, be aware of the what's105600:52:04.480 --> 00:52:06.679



happening in the room. And then my resonance just started105700:52:06.679 --> 00:52:08.599



to rise because then I started to think, okay, well105800:52:08.599 --> 00:52:10.440



what am I grateful for and all this sort of stuff.105900:52:10.480 --> 00:52:12.800



So I started to expand my heartfield. It just started106000:52:12.840 --> 00:52:16.280



expanding it lighter and brighter and bigger. So what happened106100:52:16.440 --> 00:52:18.519



was the people on the phone had told me it's106200:52:18.519 --> 00:52:21.000



going to take five to seven days to approve what106300:52:21.039 --> 00:52:23.000



it is that you're asking for, and then you might106400:52:23.039 --> 00:52:26.199



get your funds sometime after. So I was like, okay,106500:52:26.199 --> 00:52:28.119



I'm just gonna whatever, get ready to get on the106600:52:28.119 --> 00:52:30.159



phone again with them, and I happened to check my106700:52:30.199 --> 00:52:33.480



bank account and what happened. All the funds that I'd106800:52:33.480 --> 00:52:37.239



asked for were there in just a few hours, as106900:52:37.239 --> 00:52:40.480



opposed to like five to seven plus plus days. Now,107000:52:41.320 --> 00:52:44.000



why would that have happened? It doesn't make any sense.107100:52:44.320 --> 00:52:47.400



But the thing is, the quantum field is not fixed.107200:52:47.400 --> 00:52:49.760



I know, I keep talking about it. It's all wave potential.107300:52:49.960 --> 00:52:54.000



It's a reflection of your resonance. Even like I forget107400:52:54.000 --> 00:52:56.519



all the time myself. We're human, right. So the thing107500:52:56.559 --> 00:52:59.159



is when you play and you're in this sense of107600:52:59.199 --> 00:53:01.360



like I'm really present right now and I'm not really107700:53:01.400 --> 00:53:03.079



thinking about a worrying about the future. And I'm not107800:53:03.119 --> 00:53:05.920



saying be irresponsible, but if you allow these moments where107900:53:05.920 --> 00:53:08.639



you can find joy and you can find play, it108000:53:08.639 --> 00:53:11.960



has a tremendous impact on only you, but what the108100:53:12.000 --> 00:53:14.760



outcomes can be the people you're with, All of it108200:53:14.800 --> 00:53:15.239



can shift.108300:53:16.400 --> 00:53:18.079



I need to get you to call Target for me.108400:53:18.599 --> 00:53:22.679



I'm thirteen months into a sixty day fraud investigation. Someone108500:53:22.679 --> 00:53:25.559



stole money from me and it was supposed to take108600:53:25.599 --> 00:53:26.760



no more than sixty days.108700:53:26.840 --> 00:53:29.159



Karen, So I'm going to hit you up right.108800:53:30.440 --> 00:53:35.559



Well, so we It's interesting because there seems to have108900:53:35.599 --> 00:53:39.119



been a definitive shift. I don't know whether to Karen's point,109000:53:39.199 --> 00:53:42.840



it's my I just spoke Karen and I had an109100:53:42.920 --> 00:53:46.280



unexpected date at one point a couple of days ago,109200:53:46.360 --> 00:53:48.679



and I just happened to turn her and say, I'm109300:53:48.719 --> 00:53:51.920



just not really good place, Like I feel really good109400:53:52.119 --> 00:53:54.400



regardless of all this stuff is happening right because I've109500:53:54.400 --> 00:53:58.760



taken on in a philosophy of surrender, like I'm just109600:53:58.880 --> 00:54:02.039



letting the universe tell me which way I'm supposed to go.109700:54:02.039 --> 00:54:04.440



I'm not fighting things. I'm feeling really good about that.109800:54:04.880 --> 00:54:10.559



Immediately thereafter every interview, including Gabrielle and Karen Rachel, we109900:54:10.599 --> 00:54:12.039



didn't talk to you. It's been a while since we110000:54:12.079 --> 00:54:12.480



talked to you.110100:54:12.559 --> 00:54:14.440



But no, they keep me I'm the Indian and.110200:54:17.400 --> 00:54:19.440



We bring her out when we need someone to really zing.110300:54:20.400 --> 00:54:24.559



But you too are some of the latest interviews that110400:54:24.599 --> 00:54:30.159



we've had, and the message had changed, including right after110500:54:30.199 --> 00:54:32.639



you guys, we met with Suzanne Geeseman I'm not sure110600:54:32.639 --> 00:54:37.920



if you know who that is. She's a she doesn't110700:54:37.960 --> 00:54:41.239



like to be pigeonholed as a medium, but she is110800:54:41.320 --> 00:54:45.800



a really well known medium who is a spirit She's110900:54:45.840 --> 00:54:50.440



a spiritual leader who used to be in a commander111000:54:50.480 --> 00:54:55.199



in the Navy, And so the dichotomy was very interesting. However,111100:54:55.639 --> 00:55:00.079



she also reiterated the fact that twenty six is going111200:55:00.119 --> 00:55:03.599



to be actually a really good year. So the message111300:55:03.960 --> 00:55:07.360



changed somewhere along the lines right before we started talking111400:55:07.360 --> 00:55:09.440



to you guys, And so that's why I wanted to111500:55:09.440 --> 00:55:13.119



bring you all together because to your point, Karen, things111600:55:13.159 --> 00:55:17.800



are not fixed. Right. Everything leading up to this conversation was,111700:55:18.320 --> 00:55:21.320



oh my gosh, buckle up because it's coming. And sure enough,111800:55:21.440 --> 00:55:25.119



yes you need to buckle up. We are living in111900:55:25.400 --> 00:55:32.320



monumental times. We are so lucky to be living in112000:55:32.360 --> 00:55:36.039



this moment because we are living through history. This is112100:55:36.079 --> 00:55:39.280



going to be talked about for generations to come, and112200:55:39.320 --> 00:55:42.360



we are here right when you think about the people112300:55:42.400 --> 00:55:45.519



that were around during the Martin Luther King Junior days,112400:55:45.599 --> 00:55:48.480



or the Kennedy days or when things like that, just112500:55:49.280 --> 00:55:53.679



everyone will remember those times. Everyone's can remember these times112600:55:54.079 --> 00:55:57.360



and how we choose to move through them is what's112700:55:57.400 --> 00:56:01.760



going to make us enjoy the time or really really112800:56:01.800 --> 00:56:05.719



hate it. It's really tough to us right, so we112900:56:05.760 --> 00:56:07.480



are right up against the clock. But I want to113000:56:07.480 --> 00:56:11.360



make sure that I give you, guys a last message.113100:56:11.440 --> 00:56:12.800



If you want to make sure that you want to113200:56:12.840 --> 00:56:16.400



get one thing across to the audience before we go,113300:56:16.519 --> 00:56:18.480



what would that be. I'd love to start with you, Gabrielle,113400:56:18.480 --> 00:56:19.639



since we haven't heard for you in a bit.113500:56:19.960 --> 00:56:23.239



Oh, thank you. I just feel really called to share113600:56:23.320 --> 00:56:25.320



that sometimes the best thing that you can do when113700:56:25.360 --> 00:56:28.480



receiving a reading for me from anyone else, doesn't matter,113800:56:28.639 --> 00:56:30.679



is like to receive it, take what resonates lead but113900:56:30.800 --> 00:56:33.280



doesn't and then possibly forget all about it and then114000:56:33.360 --> 00:56:34.639



just come back to it to see if it did114100:56:34.719 --> 00:56:37.440



or didn't transpire. And I've oftentimes found that those are114200:56:37.440 --> 00:56:39.840



the messages that land the deepest and carry the weight114300:56:39.880 --> 00:56:42.159



for the longest period of time. But yeah, I really114400:56:42.239 --> 00:56:45.000



enjoyed just being here today and learning from everyone here.114500:56:45.039 --> 00:56:47.159



It was such a joyous discussion. It felt like a gift.114600:56:47.519 --> 00:56:49.480



Well, it was so much fun.114700:56:49.559 --> 00:56:50.599



That advice about.114800:56:50.440 --> 00:56:54.480



Readings is tremendous, by the way, Yeah, people should take114900:56:54.519 --> 00:56:56.599



notes and then go back and look, I couldn't agree more.115000:56:56.960 --> 00:56:59.920



Yeah, well then how am I going to stop was coming?115100:57:00.400 --> 00:57:01.440



If I don't think about it?115200:57:04.000 --> 00:57:12.239



Adam Ah, it's crazy, Rachel, Do you have any last115300:57:13.039 --> 00:57:14.559



part wisdom.115400:57:14.199 --> 00:57:17.000



I do, which is I don't think it's just that,115500:57:17.519 --> 00:57:19.639



you know, I don't know if you can tell I'm115600:57:19.639 --> 00:57:23.320



not really prone to toxic positivity or spiritual bible.115700:57:24.639 --> 00:57:24.880



Yep.115800:57:25.000 --> 00:57:28.159



Since twenty nineteen, I've been saying, well, you know, I115900:57:28.199 --> 00:57:32.360



started reading books about like bioweapons programs in twenty eighteen. Oh,116000:57:33.440 --> 00:57:37.320



shaman's get their homework early. Yeah, And so when it116100:57:37.320 --> 00:57:39.719



started happening, it was like, oh, no, you know here116200:57:39.760 --> 00:57:42.639



we are here, this is here comes and it oh,116300:57:42.639 --> 00:57:47.360



and it's continuing. So I haven't and on paper, I116400:57:47.400 --> 00:57:50.920



have no reason to feel bullish about the metaphysical market,116500:57:51.079 --> 00:57:54.519



if you will, right, I do, though, And it gets116600:57:54.519 --> 00:57:57.840



into if you've ever seen kriysn Olan's movie Tenant, I116700:57:57.960 --> 00:58:00.840



highly recommend to psychics or wu Kiri people watch it116800:58:01.400 --> 00:58:03.400



because you know, is it push or is it pull?116900:58:03.800 --> 00:58:07.280



Did we predict or did we create? I don't know117000:58:07.320 --> 00:58:10.000



that that matters. I just know that as of about117100:58:10.000 --> 00:58:12.519



a month ago, I started feeling the way I felt117200:58:12.960 --> 00:58:15.320



before twenty nineteen, and so did a lot of people.117300:58:15.320 --> 00:58:17.199



I know, we have no reason on paper to feel117400:58:17.199 --> 00:58:20.840



that way. There's nothing that's changed. If anything, I'm kind117500:58:20.840 --> 00:58:23.159



of in the you know what in a lot of ways.117600:58:23.760 --> 00:58:27.519



And what I would say there is, you know, trust that.117700:58:28.000 --> 00:58:31.000



And we've all been through a lot of trauma. People117800:58:31.039 --> 00:58:33.719



are now just now going through the Epstein trauma, which117900:58:33.760 --> 00:58:38.400



was my OG trauma because I got the WikiLeaks rip early.118000:58:38.800 --> 00:58:40.639



I have an external hard drive if you guys want118100:58:40.800 --> 00:58:46.119



as yet o G files. But not waiting for the118200:58:46.159 --> 00:58:48.320



other shoe to drop is going to be really important,118300:58:48.679 --> 00:58:51.719



you know, not being hyper vigilant, not creating problems where118400:58:51.719 --> 00:58:56.119



there aren't any, and giving miracles space. And to that end,118500:58:56.119 --> 00:58:58.880



I'll just I'll quote Prometheus when he was chained to118600:58:58.920 --> 00:59:01.320



the side of a mountain is liver pecked out by118700:59:01.320 --> 00:59:04.440



an eagle, which was pretty tough, and he said, you know,118800:59:04.519 --> 00:59:07.239



time as it girls old teaches all things, and tyrants118900:59:07.400 --> 00:59:11.920



always fall to tyranny. So he wasn't twisted about it,119000:59:12.039 --> 00:59:15.000



and he had every reason to be And so you know,119100:59:15.000 --> 00:59:17.039



if he could do that and be cool and poetic,119200:59:17.480 --> 00:59:21.159



I can, like, you know, file paperwork and do my119300:59:21.239 --> 00:59:22.320



taxes and be a big girl.119400:59:23.039 --> 00:59:23.519



We'll be fine.119500:59:23.519 --> 00:59:24.679



How you're liver getting picked out?119600:59:24.880 --> 00:59:27.880



Right? Yeah, that was ideally he said that right after119700:59:27.920 --> 00:59:28.880



he said ouch.119800:59:30.199 --> 00:59:34.320



She did say out. Yeah, yeah he did, Yeah, he did.119900:59:34.719 --> 00:59:37.639



All right, thank you, Rachel. Appreciate that, Karen. The last120000:59:37.679 --> 00:59:38.440



word is yours.120100:59:39.960 --> 00:59:43.840



So I love what Celeste said in terms of putting120200:59:43.880 --> 00:59:47.119



away what people say to you, because what I loved120300:59:47.119 --> 00:59:50.239



about that and just even how she said it was120400:59:50.920 --> 00:59:53.639



in doing that, she is allowing for the authority to120500:59:53.639 --> 00:59:56.039



just stay with the person receiving, which is a really120600:59:56.079 --> 00:59:59.159



beautiful thing. And I think it's really important for those120700:59:59.199 --> 01:00:03.880



of us who you are saying things in the world120801:00:03.960 --> 01:00:07.519



to people to be mindful of our own authority and120901:00:07.519 --> 01:00:09.760



our position of power. And then for you is the receiver,121001:00:09.920 --> 01:00:12.960



to be mindful of your own authority within what it121101:00:13.039 --> 01:00:15.960



is that you get to create. And so what I121201:00:16.000 --> 01:00:18.719



loved about what she said was that it was like,121301:00:18.760 --> 01:00:20.679



we'll put it away and then look at it later121401:00:20.800 --> 01:00:23.519



or whenever it calls to you, because that places the121501:00:23.760 --> 01:00:26.559



authority firmly back into you as the receiver. And I121601:00:26.559 --> 01:00:28.719



think that's really beautiful and I think it's really important121701:00:28.719 --> 01:00:32.079



at this time. And I think, as we're in this121801:00:32.280 --> 01:00:34.960



time where there's so much turmoil and there's so much121901:00:35.000 --> 01:00:38.360



polarity and there's so much darkness, it's really important to122001:00:38.440 --> 01:00:41.679



stay in your own center and really present with yourself.122101:00:41.920 --> 01:00:44.480



So it's not about like negating the fear, and it's122201:00:44.519 --> 01:00:46.960



not about like pretending things or roses when they're not.122301:00:47.480 --> 01:00:50.760



But it's like, Okay, is this actually helping me right now?122401:00:50.880 --> 01:00:54.239



Like is it actually making me feel more empowered? Do122501:00:54.360 --> 01:00:57.719



I feel like more buoyant? Do I feel more joyful?122601:00:57.760 --> 01:01:01.119



Do I feel more inspired? If it's not, then don't122701:01:01.199 --> 01:01:03.760



listen to it because it's not helping you. So the122801:01:03.800 --> 01:01:06.960



thing is to have the discernment in this time as122901:01:07.000 --> 01:01:09.800



to where you place your attention and to be aware,123001:01:09.920 --> 01:01:12.360



really truly of how you feel. Now. I know that123101:01:12.360 --> 01:01:14.440



a lot of people who listen to this may be empathic,123201:01:14.559 --> 01:01:16.559



so you feel others. So part of it is to123301:01:16.639 --> 01:01:18.960



learn how to discern that difference and even to ask123401:01:19.000 --> 01:01:21.360



yourself the question is what I'm feeling mine or is123501:01:21.360 --> 01:01:24.039



it other people? And so the thing is, I think123601:01:24.119 --> 01:01:27.199



that part of this time is to really start to123701:01:27.239 --> 01:01:30.320



claim your own authority over what is it that I123801:01:30.400 --> 01:01:32.760



want to create. There's all these different inputs telling me123901:01:32.840 --> 01:01:35.440



all these different things, and that's all wonderful, and I124001:01:35.440 --> 01:01:37.320



can sit with all of that and that's all great.124101:01:37.559 --> 01:01:39.320



But what is it that I wish to create in124201:01:39.360 --> 01:01:41.719



this time? What do I wish to do to empower124301:01:41.760 --> 01:01:45.519



myself to uplift myself others the field, however you want124401:01:45.559 --> 01:01:47.599



to think about it? And I think that's a really124501:01:47.599 --> 01:01:51.039



important thing at this time as we start to navigate124601:01:51.079 --> 01:01:52.639



into a greater level of sovereignty.124701:01:52.719 --> 01:01:57.079



Awesome, all right, Well, the last thing is, Karen, if124801:01:57.079 --> 01:01:58.679



someone wanted to reach out to you, where it's the124901:01:58.679 --> 01:01:59.760



best place for someone to do that.125001:02:01.000 --> 01:02:04.719



Oh, you can check out my website at spiracleluminosity dot com.125101:02:04.800 --> 01:02:07.320



You could also find me on YouTube or Instagram. I'd125201:02:07.320 --> 01:02:09.559



suggest YouTube. We have a lot of great content for free.125301:02:09.639 --> 01:02:14.039



Awesome on Spiracle Karen. Thanks for being here. Gabrielle.125401:02:14.039 --> 01:02:15.119



Where can someone reach out.125501:02:14.960 --> 01:02:17.079



For to you? Yeah, I'm on Instagram at ago Astrology.125601:02:17.239 --> 01:02:20.480



My website is www dot augastrology dot com. And I125701:02:20.519 --> 01:02:22.880



also have a podcast that I co host with my sisters,125801:02:22.920 --> 01:02:26.480



the Spiritual Sisters Podcast, and that's the handle on Instagram125901:02:26.519 --> 01:02:27.000



as well.126001:02:27.559 --> 01:02:29.039



Awesome. And then Rachel.126101:02:30.400 --> 01:02:34.239



Yeah, I'm passive aggressive at social media. So you can126201:02:34.239 --> 01:02:37.360



find me on my website, which is totemreadings dot com,126301:02:37.840 --> 01:02:41.480



and also totem Readings on substack. We have a lot126401:02:41.480 --> 01:02:43.800



of fun there because it's not, you know, sort of126501:02:43.880 --> 01:02:48.480



a short, shallow stuff. I just find substack the speaking126601:02:48.519 --> 01:02:51.559



of vibrations. It's really fun there. We can get very126701:02:51.599 --> 01:02:52.719



weird and deep.126801:02:53.079 --> 01:02:58.000



Yeah, awesome, Rachel White, Karen Chong, Gabriel, Celeste, thank you126901:02:58.079 --> 01:02:59.920



so much for being on the show. Thank you for127001:03:00.639 --> 01:03:03.519



indulging me in this crazy experiment. I had a ton127101:03:03.559 --> 01:03:06.639



of fun. I hope yes.127201:03:06.960 --> 01:03:07.960



Do you guys feel better?127301:03:08.719 --> 01:03:10.800



Yeah, I feel way better, So thank you for that.127401:03:14.559 --> 01:03:18.519



I'm hoping that this conversation has helped any number of127501:03:18.559 --> 01:03:20.719



people that are listening or watching this right now, because127601:03:20.760 --> 01:03:22.199



I know that there's a lot of people out there127701:03:22.199 --> 01:03:24.840



that have a lot of fear. And the fact is127801:03:26.400 --> 01:03:29.079



this period that we're living through is what you make127901:03:29.119 --> 01:03:31.800



of it, and I think that we have an incredible128001:03:31.800 --> 01:03:35.800



opportunity to turn lemons to lemonade. So thanks for spending128101:03:35.840 --> 01:03:38.280



the time with us.