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How Your Attention Shapes the Reality You Experience

How Your Attention Shapes the Reality You Experience
Spiritual Awakening Intuition

Key Takeaways

  • Time is not a linear conveyor belt from past to future, but rather a sphere of experience and choice points with your consciousness at the center.
  • Ether physics explores the underlying medium connecting everything in the universe, challenging traditional Newtonian models of solid matter.
  • Physical aging is heavily influenced by societal concepts and beliefs about numbers rather than just strict biological rules.
  • Technology should ideally be designed in harmony with the ether to support human well-being and replicate natural energetic principles.
  • Teleportation and advanced travel rely on navigating frequency and resonance rather than bridging physical distances in a straight line.

What if time isn't a line you ride along, but a sphere you navigate with your attention? Ether physicist Krys Ra El, founder of the Elyrion Initiative, joins Will and Karen to explore his Time Sphere model and why he believes your focus, not the clock, decides what you experience next.

We dig into why the law of attraction may have it backwards (Krys calls it the law of mirrors), whether aging is more concept than biology, and how his Center Hypothesis explains where individual awareness comes from.

Plus, his ET contact experiences, his take on teleportation, and the Ether River Generator.
Skeptical? So are we.
Curious? Stick around.

In this episode:

  • How to use the Time Sphere in daily life
  • Law of attraction vs. the law of mirrors
  • Brainwaves and reprogramming the subconscious
  • ET contact and humanity's next chapter
Connect with Krys: elyrion.org | Instagram @elyrion_010

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Frequently Asked Questions

What is the time sphere model in ether physics?

The time sphere model posits that time is not a straight line, but a sphere where your physical body sits at the center, surrounded by various choice points and experiences that you can navigate using your attention.

Who is Krys Ra El?

Krys Ra El is an ether physicist, the founder of the Elyrion Initiative, and a researcher who studies time, gravity, and consciousness through the framework of ether physics.

How does attention shape reality according to Krys Ra El?

Your attention acts as a steering mechanism for your experiences, shifting your brainwaves and emotional interactions to validate specific circumstances and timelines around you.

Is physical aging just a concept?

According to ether physics, aging is heavily tied to the concepts and beliefs we accept about numbers and growing older, which can directly impact our physical health and vitality.

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Karen.

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Yes.

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I finally have an excuse for being late.

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For every time?

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Well, see, time apparently is not a line.

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We've kind of talked about it.

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So you're multidimensionally late?

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What if I told you that time is a sphere?

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So it's not that I'm late. I'm just on the

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other side. That's tonight's guest, and he is an ether physicist,

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which I can confirm is not a major they offered

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at my college. He's got an ET contact story, a

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walk-in story, and something that's called Ether River Generator.

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So we are finding out tonight if ether physics is

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the piece science forgot, or the most beautifully built rabbit

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hole we've ever been invited into. Welcome to Skeptic Metaphysicians.

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My name is Will.

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And unlike Mulder and Scully.

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We've thrown ourselves into weird and wonderful experiences. I even

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joined a coven of witches.

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will prove that there's something beyond this physical.

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Three-dimensional world we all live in.

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Welcome back to the Skeptic Minute. This is a show

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where time isn't a line, it's a sphere. And somehow,

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we're still running late.

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Like a hamster.

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Welcome to the show. Most of us were taught that

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time is a conveyor belt. The past is behind you,

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the future is ahead, and you're just riding along. Well,

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our guest today thinks that picture isn't just incomplete, it's

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actually keeping people stuck. He spent years building a framework

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Gaia and now on the skeptic musician. So he finally

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you know, we're going to have something to say about that.

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Chris Rael, welcome to the show. How are you doing today?

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Hey, thank you, Will. Thank you, Karen. I'm doing absolutely fantabulous.

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I love to talk about ether physics and time. And

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what you're thinking, what you're feeling. So you're only ever

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relative to the point of consciousness who's having the experience.

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sets of experiences that we can tap into. But for you, oh,

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back to experiences you've already had?

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So you're experiencing your ideas in you're not experiencing a

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linear progression of events. For example, let's think of the

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you go back to the year 1942? No, but you

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can recreate the experiences of 1942. In fact, there was a,

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a science experiment done in the late 90s, there was

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this elderly group of people, long story short, they weren't

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doing well. They got placed into an environment that looked

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like it was like the 1940s, 1950s. The cars, the food,

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the music, the housing, everything was like it was the

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1940s and 50s.

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their sicknesses were all but gone. So there was no medication,

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anything like that. It was all just environmental. So their

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brain had then adapted to their surroundings that fit 1940s

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and 50s and their bodies responded. So they anti-aged, like

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quite literally. Wow.

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time when we had no cell phones.

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I'm saying the 90s were the best time ever.

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I was thinking like the 80s with the shoulder pads

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Flammable.

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Very flammable.

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We're a little older than you, Chris.

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I guess so. Yeah. Yeah. But yeah, you're right. It's

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not about the numbers. It's about the state of mind

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and the experience that you're having. That's what generates time.

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keep time. Clocks synchronize events. That's it.

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you know, all the way.

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In this 40s situation.

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Well, aging, if, okay, so, that's a deep question. Okay.

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you never celebrate their birthday, how old would they be?

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they have no concept of age. So their body is

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only going to be a byproduct of the environment in

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which they're in. Now there's maturation, but aging itself is

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more of a concept that we've accepted as a people, right?

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of people living well beyond 100 just not too long ago.

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So aging is, you know, Go ahead. Well, yeah.

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because I think I'm in my 50s?

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could hurt because of, I don't know, right? You're sleeping

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funky at night. But what does it mean to be

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in your 50s? When you say that, there's a general

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association with that, right? Is there not? 50 is supposed

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to mean this, that, and dah, dah, dah, dah, dah.

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with ideas again and concept. Yeah.

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Okay. So it's interesting you say that because remember when

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we were young and we would think, oh my God,

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ever make it to 50. I won't ever survive that.

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a wreck because we were thinking how bad we are.

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You are tremendously offending me right now. I'm talking about myself.

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Now I look like a wreck.

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You guys are hilarious. I love that. All right.

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around that. But I do want to, I want to,

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thinking if I talk, we talk about some other topics,

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it'll come back around.

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It always does, yeah.

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So something that called my attention when I was looking

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into you was this whole ether physics thing. Super curious,

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what makes something ether physics? I can't even say the word.

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Well, we are... In a point in time where we

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of which we find ourselves in, right?

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Sure.

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Mainstream science gives us a very Newtonian kind of explanation

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for things. You got quarks, particles, atoms, but it's all

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geared around physical substrates, right?

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So what makes something ether is your question. So ether,

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through my ontology and this definition, is the substratum that

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is the medium that connects everything. It's what everything rises

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from and goes back to, right? And so people, we

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are taught and we're trained to think, again, in a

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straight line of first there was this, second there was that,

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third there was this, and, you know, the creator kind

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of made it all, right? But then the question is, well,

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who created the creator and who created, you kind of

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go on that rabbit hole, right? So the only thing

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that truly in my frame adds up and makes sense

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is eternal, right? So there's something that I like to

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call the ether, but it's really pure presence. It's undefined potential. Now,

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through how the human biology is constructed in the soul

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and the consciousness, we actually are always connected to this ether,

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to this source. We are actually it. So, yeah, does

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that paint a decent picture first? Sure.

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No, I get what ether is, but I've never heard

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of ether physics, right? So you've heard of quantum physics.

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Right.

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Is this similar to what quantum physics is talking about?

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It's similar, but in my opinion, quantum physics actually is

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still kind of scooting around the deeper truth. Okay. It's

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still kind of keeping.

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The power out of the people right it's still saying

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well we have the answer and like this is whatever

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but so ether physics is really the study of time

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gravity it's the it's the study of how all these

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phenomenological see there it is right all these phenomenological things

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take place right so it actually gives people a real

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world tangible function to understand reality versus pointing at it

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and talking about it okay the physics kind of gives

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you oh okay i see how whenever this happens like

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that yeah so it's different.

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So you're saying that you have all the answers i

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like that ah here we go.

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All right no i will never say i will say

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that i have only rediscovered what many people have before

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you know tesla you know there's Victor Schauberger, there's other people,

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John Keeley, William Reich, they all called it different things.

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But every culture has had their people who have discovered

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or rediscovered the essence, the principle, the substratum. The hermetics

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call it, you know, the great mother and, you know,

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or prima matra, right? So it's all the same thing,

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but said from a lens of whoever came to realize it.

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So you have this information and this understanding. What do

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you do with it?

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I apply it. I share it.

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Like how do you apply it?

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Yeah. How do I apply it? So for example, I'm

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working on a couple technologies that have to do with time,

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have to do with, I don't know how, I guess

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we call it free energy, right? So when we look

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at technology today, Technology is essentially meant to augment the

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human experience. But our technology kind of dwindles us. It

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ages us.

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For sure.

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Yes, absolutely.

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Because it's not connected to the ether. It's not connected

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to the field. So it can't produce clean energy. So

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we can build devices that are generated just like the

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pyramids were through the understanding of things like ether physics, right?

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What time is, what gravity is. right how these things

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actually play into something like technology you study the ether

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through meditation through observation you then see the patterns you

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observe the patterns then you replicate and you apply them

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then you find the material copper different metals gold wood

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that are naturally conductive and you start to build things

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that support human well-being so that's one way i apply

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them um I mean, I apply ether physics. Also just

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like understanding civilization, right? Like how people function in terms

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of relationship, right? I know this is a little bit

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off topic, but the masculine and feminine, positive and negative, okay?

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Nothing in nature exists without those two polarities, literally nothing, right?

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So when you understand that you need both charges, you

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can understand that in relationships, the reason that there's a

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man and that there's a woman is because whenever they

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connect and unite, there's a charge, there's life, there's a spark, right?

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So when you understand yourself, oh, go ahead, Will.

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I'm sorry to interrupt you, but you're talking specifically this

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3D world, right? Because when we pass on, there is

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no light or dark. There is no man or female, right?

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It's again, it's relative because I think And I love

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that you're taking it here. And thank you for pausing

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me because I can just, I'll keep going. This is

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another thing I think is really important. This is what

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I've learned through ether physics is that there is no

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here and there is no there, right? Whenever you dream

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at night, you are existing in that other place that

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we assume whenever we die, right? So you're already in

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the ether. You're already doing the thing.

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Yeah.

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So when you die, you go to this place that

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you are when you're dreaming?

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You go wherever your thoughts are focused. Right, right.

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You just mentioned there's no there or there.

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It's here.

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It's here. Oh, man, this is hard.

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Okay, so then now I'm like, oh, so if you

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go there, you really got to think about what you're

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thinking about when you're about to dive.

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But there is no there.

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Well, okay, yes.

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But you guys are both on it. You're both spot on.

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Keep going.

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So then can you move around?

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I mean, go to.

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Other not there's?

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Yes, yes. And now we're getting into travel, right? You

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guys do UFOs and ETs and all the things, right?

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Oh, yeah.

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Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. How in the world can a

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starship go from here to here in the blink of

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an eye? Wormholes. Okay, yes.

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I know Star Trek.

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Okay, yes. But wormholes are what? They are not bending

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space and time. They have a different relationship to space

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and time.

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Sure.

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They understand it from a different perspective, right? So you,

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I mean, things like teleportation, in my opinion, it's very real.

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It's a matter of practice versus something that we can't do.

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We have to shave away basically all the conditioning. We

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are a physical body. This is a solid wall. We

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have to understand that what makes something solid is that

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it's really magnetism, right? So the polarity of the wall

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and atoms in the wall, in my hand, they repel

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and it creates that dense feeling, just like two magnets, right?

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Long story short, when we talk about travel, we're talking

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about moving through frequency. So we're not talking about linear space.

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Linear space is just a address. It's a set of numbers.

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It's a frequency. It's not, I'm here and you guys

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are there. If we have the right technology, I could

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be there in a blink of an eye. If I

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knew the frequency of where your room was, like, so.

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So technology or because some people talk about like Yogananda, right?

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The autobiography of a yogi, bilocation and things like that.

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They didn't use technology. They were just spiritual enough to

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actually do it.

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Exactly.

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But you're saying that we can actually develop technology to

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allow us to do these things so we don't have

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to be meditating for a thousand years.

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Precisely. Technology, again, is meant to augment, support the human

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experience and what we can do naturally. So yeah, the

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pyramids were actually originally, they were free energy devices and

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they were etheric generators. You could be anywhere in the

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world and you would have reception. Cell phones are not

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a new thing.

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So how do you know that?

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Oh man, Will, you said we have an hour. I

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actually remember, I remember a lot from my previous incarnations,

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you could say my interdimensional, astral self, however you want

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to say ET self. But then it's also been verified

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through study. I don't read books. I read old, old

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PDFs that I find that no one else knows about.

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And there's some really cool stuff that you can find

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that's like, okay, so this is why this isn't in

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the library because we'd all be teleporting and zipping around.

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There's no money in that.

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I mean, I can come up with a way to

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make money off of that. I'm sure.

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Yeah, sell them the magic feather, the Dumbo feather.

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I mean, no, I would never do that.

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I know. Yeah. But yeah, well, we can definitely do

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these things. And it's, you know, I think that humans

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or souls are just so profound. We just have never.

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That's why I like what ether physics is. It gives

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us a deeper understanding of The nature of reality. That's

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really what it is. From an empowered place.

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So have you ever teleported?

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What do you think?

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We're really hoping you're going to say yes.

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I definitely had some interesting experiences. Ironically enough, the three experiences,

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two of them were from where I was driving. And yeah,

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it was just like, how did I get here? Like,

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I don't remember anything. anything at all i just was

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a boom boom and you know but yeah so i

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i'm gonna say yes because why not you know i'll

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leave it up to you guys to believe it or

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not all right i like that.

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Well so then you have this thing called center hypothesis

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we've talked on the show before about the fact that

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awareness doesn't come from the brain it's not developed it's

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not generated in the brain it's maybe maybe we receive

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awareness or consciousness right so How does center hypothesis fit

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into all this?

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It's a beautiful little puzzle piece. So if you think of, again,

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let's use the ocean. That's a great way to understand

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the ether. The ocean. Oceans have waves, yeah? Or they

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have whirlpools or typhoons or all that kind of spirally stuff.

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If you take just a vortex or whirlpool in the ocean,

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it's not that the whirlpool is separate. It's still the ocean.

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It's the ocean now. becoming recursive and repetitive within itself, yeah?

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And that whirlpool is then going to pull different things

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into it and it's going to have a whole different

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experience than the general ocean, right? So that's kind of

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like the center hypothesis. The center hypothesis recognizes that the

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pure potential primary ether is self-aware to a degree. And

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once it becomes self-aware, it creates a repetitive standing wave

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within itself that then would create memory. Spirals are just

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ways or vortexes are just ways in which nature remembers itself.

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And through that memory, you have what's called an eye

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or an ego or something that is now not just

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the original essence. You're now a thing, something. So that's

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the starting point of the center hypothesis is that you

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become a localized center. in the greater framework of the medium,

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the ether.

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So what causes that to start, that whirlpool?

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So that's like, what is chicken or the egg? My

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answer is they both have to be simultaneous. Because again,

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you can't have one without the other. So you cannot

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have a perception or an experience of reality without... their

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first being the essence and the substratum in which you

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are having that experience, right? So what causes it is

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that nature, the ether is not inert. It's not just nothing.

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It is undefined potential. So the very nature of that

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means that it has to include everything, which has to

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then include the ability to become a perceived different version

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of just the whole, of just the, you know, spaceless,

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timeless essence. So what starts it is that it's, that's

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just what it does. That's just what the ether does.

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It reminds me of a Forrest Gump. Is that Forrest Gump?

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I don't know.

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Stupid is as stupid does.

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Ether is as ether does. Yes.

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And look at this, ready? So ether, right? E-T-H-E-R. And

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then if you change those letters around, you get there.

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So wherever there is always going to be the ether.

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But Karen, short and sweet, again, what starts it? Like

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we just go from a localized self in this human form.

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You start that process every single time you breathe. Every

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single breath you take is you're breathing in pure potential.

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Your body interprets that energy and changes it into oxygen.

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That oxygen then gets converted into energy. you know, fuel

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for the rest of your body. Right. And then you

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exhale that energy back out into what we call air.

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And then the process kind of continues. Yeah.

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This is dense stuff. You have to really think through this.

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Yeah.

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So it's, it sounds like you spend a lot of

455
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time studying ether and the nature of reality, right? Fair

456
00:25:35.000 --> 00:25:43.759
to say. So then let's go there. Why are we here?

457
00:25:43.880 --> 00:25:45.940
What is this all about?

458
00:25:50.279 --> 00:25:54.339
So why are we here? Every time I come to

459
00:25:54.380 --> 00:26:00.880
that question, it's not about the why as much as

460
00:26:00.920 --> 00:26:07.140
it is about what experiences are we having? Right. So

461
00:26:07.289 --> 00:26:11.930
when you look up the etymology of existence, it summarizes

462
00:26:12.009 --> 00:26:15.049
to like standing, like to, to stand, right. To, to

463
00:26:15.089 --> 00:26:19.809
stand within or stand like outside of. So existence is

464
00:26:19.869 --> 00:26:23.529
like to stand outside of the self. You exist outside

465
00:26:23.569 --> 00:26:28.329
of yourself. Right. So why, why would this all pervasive

466
00:26:28.549 --> 00:26:32.349
omnipresent field want to do that? And I think it's

467
00:26:32.369 --> 00:26:36.240
a very simple thing. It's like we're here for, for experience.

468
00:26:36.259 --> 00:26:39.099
We're not here to, I mean, on one level, you

469
00:26:39.119 --> 00:26:41.000
could say we're here to learn how to be better people,

470
00:26:41.039 --> 00:26:44.460
better souls, but it really, it's like, if you were

471
00:26:44.480 --> 00:26:48.730
a field of pure potential presence, the only way that

472
00:26:48.769 --> 00:26:51.210
you could actually have any sort of anything would be

473
00:26:51.410 --> 00:26:55.190
through experience or else there would be, there'd be nothing

474
00:26:55.230 --> 00:26:58.990
would exist without experience. Nothing would exist without some sort

475
00:26:59.269 --> 00:27:07.000
of duality of I'm just pure potential consciousness versus I

476
00:27:07.160 --> 00:27:09.859
am a human being talking to another human being who

477
00:27:09.880 --> 00:27:12.900
can know itself as will Karen, Chris, so on and

478
00:27:12.940 --> 00:27:15.849
so forth. That's, you know, the, yeah.

479
00:27:17.009 --> 00:27:21.029
So we've talked to a lot of people and one

480
00:27:21.109 --> 00:27:23.849
common kind of theme that we get is that we

481
00:27:24.109 --> 00:27:27.730
are made out of, I guess, the energy, the energy

482
00:27:27.950 --> 00:27:32.369
of love. So is that, I guess that, that would be,

483
00:27:32.910 --> 00:27:36.670
different than potential?

484
00:27:36.789 --> 00:27:42.150
Love would be an idea within that potential, right? Because potential,

485
00:27:42.470 --> 00:27:45.059
and the thing is, it's really difficult to try to

486
00:27:45.099 --> 00:27:48.759
describe something that just is. There's no one word because

487
00:27:48.819 --> 00:27:53.720
every word I use is just now another idea within that, right?

488
00:27:53.759 --> 00:27:54.480
Does that make sense?

489
00:27:54.759 --> 00:27:54.980
Yeah.

490
00:27:55.119 --> 00:27:59.700
So if I say it's love, ether, primordial, whatever, God, consciousness,

491
00:28:00.740 --> 00:28:03.940
it's still not that thing. that word i'm saying is

492
00:28:03.980 --> 00:28:10.019
just a symbol right so this is why meditation is

493
00:28:10.059 --> 00:28:13.039
so important a good question to ask and this is

494
00:28:13.079 --> 00:28:16.440
for people who want to actually really inquire and experience

495
00:28:16.460 --> 00:28:19.450
this versus just like make into some intellectual thing yeah

496
00:28:19.509 --> 00:28:24.289
please yeah and ask the question what is it that

497
00:28:24.349 --> 00:28:28.930
is observing through these eyes right what's what is what's

498
00:28:28.970 --> 00:28:38.809
observing through these eyes If you say, well, it's Chris. Well,

499
00:28:38.829 --> 00:28:42.049
who is Chris? Well, Chris is a brown man from

500
00:28:42.109 --> 00:28:46.099
Connecticut who's a father. Okay, well, who is aware of

501
00:28:46.200 --> 00:28:48.400
Chris being Chris?

502
00:28:49.980 --> 00:28:50.180
Right?

503
00:28:50.299 --> 00:28:54.660
And you keep going, at least to some pretty cool places. Yeah.

504
00:28:56.049 --> 00:29:01.940
So then the pure potentiality creates... us reality we it

505
00:29:01.960 --> 00:29:05.000
splits off and becomes everything that we know right does

506
00:29:05.019 --> 00:29:09.759
that include like you talked about spaceships earlier like ets

507
00:29:09.819 --> 00:29:12.539
different civilizations is it go that far or is it

508
00:29:12.579 --> 00:29:15.460
just specifically focused on humanity.

509
00:29:15.339 --> 00:29:20.180
No it's it's everything it's literally everything so yes ets

510
00:29:20.480 --> 00:29:25.420
uh rocks cars whatever right and it's again there's this

511
00:29:25.799 --> 00:29:30.259
idea of a of a creator but that's because we're

512
00:29:30.279 --> 00:29:35.190
human and we anthropomorphize the ether or source or, or divinity.

513
00:29:36.109 --> 00:29:39.849
If I was a, if I was a flower and,

514
00:29:40.609 --> 00:29:45.279
would i say that the source is human or humanoid

515
00:29:45.339 --> 00:29:50.299
probably not right so from the perspective of a flower

516
00:29:50.640 --> 00:29:53.680
what is that what is it that connects the flowers

517
00:29:53.839 --> 00:30:01.390
experience in mind right so who created the flower It

518
00:30:01.430 --> 00:30:05.430
can't be a being. It has to be a principle, right?

519
00:30:06.089 --> 00:30:09.970
And so when we talk about ETs, starships, yes, it

520
00:30:09.990 --> 00:30:12.230
includes all of that stuff because it's all coming from

521
00:30:12.289 --> 00:30:15.529
the same field, the same medium.

522
00:30:17.289 --> 00:30:21.259
Now, you've had an experience with decontact, yeah?

523
00:30:21.880 --> 00:30:23.500
Yeah, I have had quite a few.

524
00:30:24.420 --> 00:30:28.240
Quite a few? So first, you're talking to someone.

525
00:30:28.259 --> 00:30:29.000
Mm-hmm.

526
00:30:29.789 --> 00:30:35.109
Who sat on a cruise ship at night, like forcing

527
00:30:35.150 --> 00:30:38.109
them to come and say hello and nothing. I mean,

528
00:30:38.950 --> 00:30:40.069
Karen thinks that they came.

529
00:30:40.190 --> 00:30:40.869
No, I know.

530
00:30:41.170 --> 00:30:41.490
Okay.

531
00:30:41.569 --> 00:30:43.619
I saw it, Sienna saw it, you saw it, but

532
00:30:43.640 --> 00:30:44.680
you're like, man, maybe not.

533
00:30:44.759 --> 00:30:46.519
I think it was just my eyes doing weird stuff.

534
00:30:46.559 --> 00:30:47.920
We all had weird eyes.

535
00:30:50.140 --> 00:30:52.539
Oh my God. So what, so what do you, what's your,

536
00:30:52.960 --> 00:30:55.880
what's your insight on that? That there was nothing there

537
00:30:55.900 --> 00:30:57.359
that you're inquiring about what.

538
00:30:58.569 --> 00:31:03.869
No, I'm unbelievably curious when we talk to people who

539
00:31:03.930 --> 00:31:07.150
have had contact or some sort of experiences and things

540
00:31:07.170 --> 00:31:10.250
like that, what those experiences are. Because now the government

541
00:31:10.309 --> 00:31:15.339
is releasing all these tranches of UFO footage, which says

542
00:31:15.380 --> 00:31:19.420
really a whole lot of nothing because there's no data

543
00:31:19.440 --> 00:31:20.859
that goes with it. So you can't tell how big

544
00:31:20.900 --> 00:31:22.519
it is, how fast it was going, anything like that.

545
00:31:22.599 --> 00:31:25.990
So it's kind of useless now. So the only way

546
00:31:26.029 --> 00:31:28.029
that we can get any kind of information is people

547
00:31:28.049 --> 00:31:30.950
like you who actually have had first-hand experiences with these things.

548
00:31:31.009 --> 00:31:33.849
So not to derail the topic, but I'm really super

549
00:31:33.890 --> 00:31:36.049
curious if you wouldn't mind sharing. It's good.

550
00:31:36.630 --> 00:31:39.779
Yeah, I mean, honestly, it goes hand in hand. So

551
00:31:40.059 --> 00:31:42.400
I stargaze all the time. It's one of my most

552
00:31:42.440 --> 00:31:45.160
favorite things to do. And I've been doing it since

553
00:31:45.220 --> 00:31:47.839
I was a kid. And there's something about when you're

554
00:31:47.859 --> 00:31:51.319
looking up at the night sky, something happens to your brain. Like, actually,

555
00:31:51.359 --> 00:31:54.329
you can, you know, neuroscience is all into this, like,

556
00:31:55.099 --> 00:31:57.599
how the light from the stars impacts your actual, how

557
00:31:57.619 --> 00:31:59.940
you think and stuff like that. With that said, I

558
00:32:03.380 --> 00:32:06.930
have seen not only starships, but also like I've had

559
00:32:07.210 --> 00:32:11.230
direct experience, yes, through dream, but also physically. And I

560
00:32:11.269 --> 00:32:13.190
won't get into too much details about that because we

561
00:32:13.210 --> 00:32:17.329
don't have too much time. But when we talk about extraterrestrials,

562
00:32:17.930 --> 00:32:20.269
we have to understand something. This is really, really important.

563
00:32:20.970 --> 00:32:25.710
Humans are ETs, like short and sweet. If Will and Karen,

564
00:32:25.730 --> 00:32:27.809
if you hop onto a spaceship and you go to Jupiter,

565
00:32:28.250 --> 00:32:32.720
guess what? You're going to be considered an extraterrestrial, right?

566
00:32:32.940 --> 00:32:35.319
So then again, here we are with this idea of

567
00:32:35.380 --> 00:32:39.619
relativity and here and there. It's all about your point

568
00:32:39.700 --> 00:32:45.339
of perception and perspective. So the things that the government

569
00:32:45.359 --> 00:32:47.359
are showing, I think 80, 90% of it is just

570
00:32:47.380 --> 00:32:49.339
the government, you know, going around each other and just

571
00:32:49.400 --> 00:32:55.589
making a scene. The 10%, 9%, The starships are nuts

572
00:32:55.650 --> 00:32:58.819
and bolts. You know, they have different kinds of plasma

573
00:32:58.910 --> 00:33:03.680
engines made from, you know, Merkaba crystal technology. And this

574
00:33:03.740 --> 00:33:07.519
is what I mean. Technology can become really, really impactful

575
00:33:08.000 --> 00:33:12.180
if we understand metaphysics, ether physics a little differently than

576
00:33:12.220 --> 00:33:16.920
what we've been taught. So who is in these crafts?

577
00:33:17.440 --> 00:33:20.849
It's just people. People, literally just people like me and you.

578
00:33:21.539 --> 00:33:24.339
Like humanoid people? Like we look the same as.

579
00:33:24.960 --> 00:33:29.920
Yes. Yes. Like there are a tremendous amount of humans,

580
00:33:30.099 --> 00:33:34.309
just literal human beings sprinkled throughout the cosmos. Now this

581
00:33:34.430 --> 00:33:37.329
isn't just like a woo-woo thing or it's just Chris

582
00:33:37.369 --> 00:33:40.269
like hoping, wishing. All you have to do is look

583
00:33:40.309 --> 00:33:42.970
at any ancient culture, like not like.

584
00:33:45.650 --> 00:33:47.769
Be careful with that. So look at a lot of

585
00:33:47.829 --> 00:33:53.250
different cultures and you'll see... The stories, you know, they

586
00:33:53.309 --> 00:33:56.450
say they call them chariots of the gods. These are

587
00:33:56.490 --> 00:33:58.809
just starships, and they'll say that the gods came down

588
00:33:59.390 --> 00:34:02.799
from heaven. These are just people. They're just people.

589
00:34:03.099 --> 00:34:05.380
But they look different. Like in the drawings and the

590
00:34:05.559 --> 00:34:08.699
cuneiform and all that kind of stuff, they look not

591
00:34:08.780 --> 00:34:09.219
like us.

592
00:34:09.239 --> 00:34:11.800
They've got theҀ” The headdresses and stuff?

593
00:34:13.039 --> 00:34:15.440
Some look like animals, and some look like, you know,

594
00:34:15.659 --> 00:34:18.559
the big eyes, the typical gray alien kind of things, right?

595
00:34:18.800 --> 00:34:18.940
Yeah.

596
00:34:19.480 --> 00:34:24.010
And there is a theory that ETs are really, what

597
00:34:24.119 --> 00:34:27.449
we're experiencing now is really just humans from the future

598
00:34:27.489 --> 00:34:31.469
come back in time to see, to visit us here, right?

599
00:34:31.710 --> 00:34:38.940
Oh, no. So here we go with the time thing again, yeah? Right. Yeah.

600
00:34:39.880 --> 00:34:43.039
And Dave Grush just talked about the fact that there's

601
00:34:43.099 --> 00:34:45.960
two different alien races at war over the United States

602
00:34:46.000 --> 00:34:48.719
right now, for example. And the fact that he's seen, like,

603
00:34:49.460 --> 00:34:53.340
reptilian beings and and i mean i guess i guess

604
00:34:53.380 --> 00:34:55.539
the nordics look like us tall.

605
00:34:55.320 --> 00:34:59.460
But yeah well i have a question for you um

606
00:35:01.119 --> 00:35:04.369
would you consider that if if there is such a

607
00:35:04.409 --> 00:35:08.989
diverse population on earth that this is the only place

608
00:35:09.070 --> 00:35:11.570
where there's you know diversity and people that look like

609
00:35:11.650 --> 00:35:14.389
us or do you think that there's other just beings

610
00:35:14.449 --> 00:35:15.809
in general out there right.

611
00:35:15.980 --> 00:35:17.550
No, I think this is probably the only place that

612
00:35:17.570 --> 00:35:21.230
has diversity. Okay.

613
00:35:21.250 --> 00:35:21.610
Yes, Will.

614
00:35:21.630 --> 00:35:22.829
Yes, Will. No, no, no.

615
00:35:22.869 --> 00:35:23.349
I'm sure.

616
00:35:23.369 --> 00:35:26.349
In fact, I'm a big science fiction fan and I

617
00:35:26.389 --> 00:35:29.150
have thought about that a lot where, you know, Star

618
00:35:29.170 --> 00:35:32.449
Trek and all those places, they go to different planets. Right?

619
00:35:32.469 --> 00:35:35.369
The planets, they all look the same. All the aliens

620
00:35:35.409 --> 00:35:39.869
look exactly the same with some slight variations. And most

621
00:35:39.889 --> 00:35:41.489
of them in Star Trek are actually humanoid. And there's

622
00:35:41.530 --> 00:35:43.190
a reason for it. If you're a Star Trek fan,

623
00:35:43.210 --> 00:35:45.829
you know the whole reason for it. But, The biggest

624
00:35:45.869 --> 00:35:49.789
question about all that is lots of people have talked

625
00:35:49.829 --> 00:35:52.070
about the fact that ETs are here to help us

626
00:35:52.190 --> 00:35:54.369
in our evolution and things like that, right?

627
00:35:54.409 --> 00:35:54.610
Yeah.

628
00:35:54.630 --> 00:36:00.570
So how connected are they to these ether physics stuff?

629
00:36:01.380 --> 00:36:01.570
All right.

630
00:36:01.880 --> 00:36:05.380
So ether physics started for me after a lot of

631
00:36:05.420 --> 00:36:08.820
my contact. I started to know things. Like I've had

632
00:36:08.860 --> 00:36:11.820
different abduction experience. I just would know things. I'm like,

633
00:36:12.460 --> 00:36:14.139
oh my God, this is what gravity is. This is

634
00:36:14.179 --> 00:36:18.170
what time is. So, this is the fun one. If

635
00:36:18.190 --> 00:36:21.210
you're in a highly advanced race and you want a

636
00:36:21.250 --> 00:36:24.269
culture to develop and you have their best interest, you

637
00:36:24.289 --> 00:36:26.110
know that if you go down in your starship and

638
00:36:26.130 --> 00:36:27.909
you're like, hey, guys, I'm here to help you out,

639
00:36:28.489 --> 00:36:30.300
it's going to cause chaos because the people need to

640
00:36:30.340 --> 00:36:32.659
be ready for that kind of experience. So, you would

641
00:36:32.719 --> 00:36:37.619
send one of you, but in a human form, right,

642
00:36:37.960 --> 00:36:40.079
to fit in, to just kind of get along, to

643
00:36:40.139 --> 00:36:43.139
learn the culture, and then to bring things through that

644
00:36:43.179 --> 00:36:48.579
could literally help push the species forward right some people

645
00:36:48.599 --> 00:36:52.159
have called this indigo children star seeds light workers things

646
00:36:52.199 --> 00:36:53.699
like that but not so much of the new age

647
00:36:53.739 --> 00:36:57.079
stuff i know and i can say this pretty boldly

648
00:36:57.119 --> 00:37:00.320
but also confidently that part of a lot of what

649
00:37:00.360 --> 00:37:03.599
i share comes from directly from my star team like

650
00:37:03.820 --> 00:37:07.929
directly and through deep meditation i like i said dream

651
00:37:08.429 --> 00:37:12.250
i've met people um that have shared things with me

652
00:37:12.750 --> 00:37:15.389
And I've also just been guided into different, like I said,

653
00:37:15.449 --> 00:37:20.150
PDFs and works that have talked about this kind of stuff.

654
00:37:20.789 --> 00:37:25.269
So there is a direct link to the progressive advancement

655
00:37:25.309 --> 00:37:29.250
of humanity and ETs. I think that ETs and the

656
00:37:29.289 --> 00:37:35.230
cosmos themselves is the biggest thing that's being like quelled

657
00:37:35.610 --> 00:37:38.309
because it's also the thing that could actually propel us

658
00:37:38.690 --> 00:37:44.800
into a completely different state of being. Advanced technology, holistic societies,

659
00:37:45.360 --> 00:37:51.219
you know, more of a well-rounded governing structure. This is

660
00:37:51.400 --> 00:37:55.340
all part of the bigger picture. My Instagram handle used

661
00:37:55.360 --> 00:37:59.639
to be called Peaceful Human Advancement. Because that's why I'm here,

662
00:37:59.679 --> 00:38:03.760
is to help people, humans, peacefully advance.

663
00:38:04.480 --> 00:38:04.860
I guess that.

664
00:38:05.590 --> 00:38:10.889
You did. No, you used your telepathy because you're an MC.

665
00:38:11.989 --> 00:38:13.590
Well, if that's the plan, I'm ready for them to

666
00:38:13.630 --> 00:38:13.989
come now.

667
00:38:15.530 --> 00:38:18.230
Would you know if they were, though? I don't know.

668
00:38:18.349 --> 00:38:20.650
Maybe things started getting better all of a sudden.

669
00:38:22.349 --> 00:38:22.630
Yeah.

670
00:38:24.010 --> 00:38:27.840
Yeah, because when you look at technology, things are getting worse.

671
00:38:29.599 --> 00:38:32.800
Social media, cell phones, they started out good stuff, but

672
00:38:32.860 --> 00:38:35.099
they've been warped. They've been twisted. Right.

673
00:38:36.159 --> 00:38:38.360
Government's getting worse. Things are just getting worse.

674
00:38:38.460 --> 00:38:41.579
Everything's getting worse. Except it's not. It's getting better.

675
00:38:41.980 --> 00:38:44.179
See, boom. You read my mind. I was going to say,

676
00:38:44.219 --> 00:38:48.309
but we're having this conversation. So this means something, right?

677
00:38:48.670 --> 00:38:50.690
This is not just like a blip in the pan.

678
00:38:50.730 --> 00:38:55.070
We're having a real conversation about how to be progressive

679
00:38:55.190 --> 00:38:58.179
in the human experience, right? That's what my work is

680
00:38:58.199 --> 00:38:59.360
all about. Yeah.

681
00:38:59.860 --> 00:39:02.889
Well, then perfect. Then let's, let's do that. Let's talk

682
00:39:02.949 --> 00:39:06.289
about ether physics. How can we use it practically in

683
00:39:06.349 --> 00:39:09.090
our human experience? How can we like take the time

684
00:39:09.110 --> 00:39:12.070
sphere thing? How can we use that in our daily lives?

685
00:39:12.090 --> 00:39:14.449
All right. So let's go to the time sphere. All right.

686
00:39:14.550 --> 00:39:17.750
So if I, if I have to go to the

687
00:39:17.769 --> 00:39:21.519
bathroom and I'm in the bathroom and then Will, you

688
00:39:21.559 --> 00:39:23.460
come knocking on the door, you're like, Hey, I got

689
00:39:23.480 --> 00:39:25.440
to go. I'm like, it's been 30 seconds. You're like, no,

690
00:39:25.460 --> 00:39:26.579
it's been like five minutes.

691
00:39:27.460 --> 00:39:27.619
Right.

692
00:39:28.090 --> 00:39:33.809
We're experiencing this. same moment, but time is different for us.

693
00:39:34.550 --> 00:39:34.730
Right?

694
00:39:35.250 --> 00:39:38.130
So why do I bring up this perception of time?

695
00:39:38.570 --> 00:39:40.889
Exactly. So why do I bring up that silly example?

696
00:39:41.309 --> 00:39:45.599
Because when humans become aware of how they're thinking, time

697
00:39:45.679 --> 00:39:46.699
starts to change.

698
00:39:47.719 --> 00:39:48.820
Ah, okay.

699
00:39:49.360 --> 00:39:52.000
Right? You don't change time by changing the numbers. You

700
00:39:52.019 --> 00:39:56.570
change time by changing your thoughts, which you focus on, okay?

701
00:39:56.989 --> 00:40:02.110
So we can apply the time sphere. Again, think of

702
00:40:02.130 --> 00:40:06.050
the sphere and you have, don't think of future, past, present.

703
00:40:06.090 --> 00:40:11.170
Think of new car, you know, whatever, house, whatever, new job,

704
00:40:11.190 --> 00:40:14.400
whatever it is, right? And you put your awareness on

705
00:40:14.480 --> 00:40:16.219
that thing. You start to live in what I call

706
00:40:16.239 --> 00:40:20.550
the creator zone. You think and you, not even believe,

707
00:40:20.590 --> 00:40:23.449
but you allow your mind to go into the reality

708
00:40:23.489 --> 00:40:26.650
of you having that new car, you having that relationship,

709
00:40:27.010 --> 00:40:30.769
and you're literally living in it, in your mind. They

710
00:40:30.809 --> 00:40:34.070
say seeing is believing, and it's not. Seeing is knowing.

711
00:40:35.380 --> 00:40:39.260
So you can only experience what you know, but if

712
00:40:39.300 --> 00:40:41.719
you can't see it out in front of you, you're

713
00:40:41.760 --> 00:40:43.840
never going to know it. So you have to experience

714
00:40:43.900 --> 00:40:46.639
it here. That's why it's called knowing. And what you

715
00:40:46.679 --> 00:40:50.429
experience here Only then is it going to appear out

716
00:40:50.469 --> 00:40:51.010
in front of you.

717
00:40:52.150 --> 00:40:54.030
And for those who are only listening, when he says here,

718
00:40:54.070 --> 00:40:55.500
he's pointing at his mind.

719
00:40:55.699 --> 00:40:56.500
Oh, I'm sorry. Yeah.

720
00:40:56.679 --> 00:40:59.719
It's totally okay. It's totally okay. This is both. So

721
00:40:59.739 --> 00:41:03.019
let's make sure we include them both. So I get

722
00:41:03.059 --> 00:41:05.840
what you're saying and I love it. I really enjoy it.

723
00:41:06.179 --> 00:41:09.820
How is this different than the law of attraction or manifestations,

724
00:41:09.880 --> 00:41:10.480
that kind of stuff?

725
00:41:10.639 --> 00:41:13.320
They're cousins, Timmy and Jim. No, Timmy and Mike.

726
00:41:14.579 --> 00:41:15.619
I got a lot of cousins named Bob.

727
00:41:16.780 --> 00:41:19.159
Okay. So how is it different than law of attraction?

728
00:41:19.219 --> 00:41:22.559
Law of attraction has a subtle misconception in it. Attraction.

729
00:41:22.980 --> 00:41:25.820
You don't ever attract anything to you. You're not attracting

730
00:41:25.860 --> 00:41:28.869
things to you. There's nothing. This might be a difficult

731
00:41:28.989 --> 00:41:32.590
one for people to grasp. But again, we're taking steps

732
00:41:32.630 --> 00:41:34.670
here to think in a different way than what we've

733
00:41:34.809 --> 00:41:36.630
been taught, right? So it's going to feel a little bumpy.

734
00:41:37.329 --> 00:41:39.969
But everything we see out in front of us is

735
00:41:40.110 --> 00:41:44.260
already in the past. It's already materialized. It's already happened.

736
00:41:44.780 --> 00:41:46.880
It started in your mind and now you're experiencing it

737
00:41:46.940 --> 00:41:50.880
out here, right? So the law of attraction says you

738
00:41:50.900 --> 00:41:54.719
attract things to you and the law of mirrors say

739
00:41:54.760 --> 00:41:58.949
you experience what you are. So Neville Goddard is someone

740
00:41:58.969 --> 00:42:00.429
who I've studied a lot and he talks a lot

741
00:42:00.449 --> 00:42:05.130
about this, how you are not, it's not about attracting,

742
00:42:05.170 --> 00:42:09.849
it's about being. What are you being, right? And so

743
00:42:09.929 --> 00:42:13.409
ether physics would say this, If I'm thinking about, okay,

744
00:42:13.550 --> 00:42:16.369
I want to have a talk with a wonderful podcast,

745
00:42:16.530 --> 00:42:20.250
that thought creates that spiral. That spiral in the ether

746
00:42:20.289 --> 00:42:23.250
becomes more solid, solid, solid. It creates a standing wave.

747
00:42:23.929 --> 00:42:27.010
That standing wave is what we call physical matter. But

748
00:42:27.050 --> 00:42:31.869
physical matter, for my experience, is finding you guys online

749
00:42:32.570 --> 00:42:34.949
and being like, hey, let's set up a show, right?

750
00:42:35.610 --> 00:42:38.630
So that goes from the ether, pure potential, into thought,

751
00:42:39.949 --> 00:42:44.889
to physical action, and then direct experience. That's the sequence.

752
00:42:46.630 --> 00:42:52.449
So, but law of attraction does have, like, at least lately,

753
00:42:52.570 --> 00:42:55.150
people are talking a lot more about how you have

754
00:42:55.170 --> 00:42:58.309
to take aligned action to make it happen. So still

755
00:42:58.760 --> 00:42:59.780
kind of cousin-y, right?

756
00:42:59.889 --> 00:43:00.820
Yeah, for sure.

757
00:43:02.219 --> 00:43:03.000
But pretty close.

758
00:43:03.320 --> 00:43:07.599
It's definitely close. I think what this model shares is

759
00:43:07.679 --> 00:43:13.230
that you are already experiencing the thing. It's not about

760
00:43:13.329 --> 00:43:15.590
waiting for it. It's not about waiting for it and

761
00:43:15.610 --> 00:43:19.550
attracting for it and like looking for signs. It's about

762
00:43:19.769 --> 00:43:24.050
being in the frequency of the thing. That's the shift.

763
00:43:24.869 --> 00:43:30.280
So like reality transurfing where you go, you are existing

764
00:43:30.320 --> 00:43:33.139
in this reality that you are looking to have in

765
00:43:33.239 --> 00:43:35.940
some dimension and you're just shifting into that dimension that

766
00:43:36.000 --> 00:43:36.780
you are having that.

767
00:43:37.239 --> 00:43:41.610
Bingo. That's literally the time sphere. That's perfect. Yes. Yes. Yes.

768
00:43:41.769 --> 00:43:46.750
That's it. Yep. So Chris talking to Will, then Chris,

769
00:43:46.869 --> 00:43:49.030
I don't know, going and looking out under the stars,

770
00:43:49.269 --> 00:43:51.679
that's already, if I can have that thought, that's already

771
00:43:52.280 --> 00:43:56.019
a potential that I can tap into. I experience it

772
00:43:56.119 --> 00:44:00.880
by moving my body, but that thought is already showing

773
00:44:00.920 --> 00:44:02.639
me that, hey, this is here in the field for

774
00:44:02.659 --> 00:44:07.780
you to experience now. You're not attracting it. You're just attuning, aligning, with.

775
00:44:09.130 --> 00:44:11.170
So then that's a lot that's a lot of like

776
00:44:11.190 --> 00:44:13.869
you have to you have to know it exists you

777
00:44:13.909 --> 00:44:15.889
have to know and so.

778
00:44:18.530 --> 00:44:22.639
So you so where does your subconscious play into this

779
00:44:22.739 --> 00:44:27.579
because you can you can think you know what it's.

780
00:44:27.400 --> 00:44:30.969
Like to have that question yeah that's the question so

781
00:44:31.010 --> 00:44:35.050
the subconscious is You can't trick yourself. That's the thing, right?

782
00:44:35.070 --> 00:44:39.210
You can't, you consider, that's why affirmations don't work. Affirmations,

783
00:44:41.130 --> 00:44:43.489
you can't trick yourself into it. So then you get

784
00:44:43.510 --> 00:44:46.809
into the ether physics principle of like your brainwaves, right?

785
00:44:47.489 --> 00:44:51.449
So most of us spend whatever percentage in beta brainwave, right?

786
00:44:51.949 --> 00:44:56.940
That's everyday conversation, but the transformation happens in alpha, theta, delta,

787
00:44:56.980 --> 00:44:58.539
and then gamma is like when you really get into

788
00:44:58.579 --> 00:45:03.210
deep meditation. So we have to become artful, right? at

789
00:45:03.429 --> 00:45:06.030
knowing how to change our brainwaves so that we reach

790
00:45:06.070 --> 00:45:09.920
those slower oscillating brainwaves where the information is. And that's

791
00:45:09.960 --> 00:45:14.199
the subconscious. Because now when I'm in deep meditation and

792
00:45:14.280 --> 00:45:18.320
then I start to think about wanting the experience, then

793
00:45:18.360 --> 00:45:21.860
that's when you really start the vortex, right? And that's

794
00:45:21.900 --> 00:45:24.059
where the magic happens. And that's where the subconscious can

795
00:45:24.159 --> 00:45:26.760
easily get programmed. That's, yeah, go ahead, Will.

796
00:45:27.199 --> 00:45:28.750
So then hypnosis is a good tool for that.

797
00:45:28.769 --> 00:45:30.829
That's what I was going to say. Exactly. That's why-

798
00:45:31.300 --> 00:45:34.030
When people talk nice and slow, then you start to

799
00:45:34.070 --> 00:45:38.590
feel different. You're switching brainwaves. And that's where people can

800
00:45:38.610 --> 00:45:45.170
get programmed. And MKUltra is the nasty version of that. Right. Right.

801
00:45:45.849 --> 00:45:46.150
Okay.

802
00:45:46.929 --> 00:45:47.170
Cool.

803
00:45:47.429 --> 00:45:50.949
So you teach people. all this stuff, how to access it,

804
00:45:51.070 --> 00:45:53.909
how to, right? So how do you do that? Talk

805
00:45:53.929 --> 00:45:54.929
to us about your stuff.

806
00:45:55.179 --> 00:46:00.360
So besides the talks and the conferences, I have a website, eliran.org.

807
00:46:00.380 --> 00:46:01.739
The first thing people are going to see is the

808
00:46:01.780 --> 00:46:04.019
time sphere. And it kind of takes people through this

809
00:46:04.119 --> 00:46:07.989
interactive journey through the time sphere. And it actually maps

810
00:46:08.139 --> 00:46:11.989
out how to understand the concept a little bit better,

811
00:46:12.010 --> 00:46:16.909
a little bit more streamlined. You know, my Instagram, but

812
00:46:16.929 --> 00:46:20.639
then also, I have a school platform where I teach

813
00:46:20.659 --> 00:46:22.619
these kind of classes and, you know, I have different

814
00:46:22.639 --> 00:46:27.750
videos and specific things about time travel, teleportation, not from

815
00:46:27.829 --> 00:46:31.690
a woo-woo, you know, sci-fi, but from a, hey, here's

816
00:46:31.730 --> 00:46:33.949
the mechanics, here's the functions of what we need to

817
00:46:33.969 --> 00:46:36.730
understand as a people first before we can even really

818
00:46:36.769 --> 00:46:39.150
get into things like that. Right.

819
00:46:39.710 --> 00:46:42.190
Do you have an example you could share with us

820
00:46:42.469 --> 00:46:44.349
of maybe a student or someone that you've worked with

821
00:46:44.389 --> 00:46:48.880
that was actually able to really bring about a big

822
00:46:48.960 --> 00:46:49.880
change through this?

823
00:46:50.159 --> 00:46:53.840
Yeah. So I'm not gonna mention her name. Sometime last year,

824
00:46:53.860 --> 00:46:56.869
I did a class and one of my students, she

825
00:46:57.309 --> 00:46:59.570
went to the grocery store. She wanted, she came home

826
00:47:00.150 --> 00:47:03.050
and she was trying to unlock her door, but the door,

827
00:47:03.070 --> 00:47:05.869
it was locked. She couldn't find her key. She remembered

828
00:47:05.909 --> 00:47:08.869
the class and she just thought in her mind about

829
00:47:08.909 --> 00:47:10.829
the door being unlocked. I know it sounds so simple,

830
00:47:10.869 --> 00:47:12.510
but like this is real stuff.

831
00:47:13.110 --> 00:47:13.590
Sure.

832
00:47:14.150 --> 00:47:16.090
She thought about the door being unlocked. She said that

833
00:47:16.130 --> 00:47:19.360
she saw some kind of blue energy or something she

834
00:47:19.380 --> 00:47:21.320
put her hand on the door and then like the

835
00:47:21.360 --> 00:47:26.090
door it it it unlocked so that that was that's

836
00:47:26.150 --> 00:47:28.130
one example that that.

837
00:47:27.909 --> 00:47:33.739
Was tracy wasn't it no what yes tracy No, it

838
00:47:33.780 --> 00:47:34.860
was Daphne. Daphne?

839
00:47:34.880 --> 00:47:36.300
What are you talking about?

840
00:47:36.440 --> 00:47:36.659
Yeah.

841
00:47:37.179 --> 00:47:42.199
I'm just guessing to see if I can guess the name.

842
00:47:42.219 --> 00:47:44.920
What? He was floating around the time sphere there.

843
00:47:44.940 --> 00:47:46.119
He was floating around something.

844
00:47:46.179 --> 00:47:48.139
I'm with you, Will. I'm with you.

845
00:47:48.159 --> 00:47:49.559
I was smoking the ether.

846
00:47:49.619 --> 00:47:54.929
People have tried. They've definitely tried. That's a thing. You know,

847
00:47:55.199 --> 00:47:57.530
Native Americans, whenever they would do powwows and stuff, they

848
00:47:57.550 --> 00:48:00.429
were tapping into the ether. They were switching their brainwaves.

849
00:48:00.449 --> 00:48:03.150
They were getting into this hypnotic state. to bring in

850
00:48:03.190 --> 00:48:07.090
more information. Everything's about how much information you can attune to.

851
00:48:07.449 --> 00:48:08.969
Nothing's hidden. Nothing's hidden.

852
00:48:08.989 --> 00:48:11.940
Right, right. So then you also have this thing called

853
00:48:11.980 --> 00:48:18.679
an ether river generator. That sounds super techie woo-woo kind

854
00:48:18.719 --> 00:48:19.579
of coolness.

855
00:48:19.719 --> 00:48:21.699
What is that? So that's actually one of the more

856
00:48:21.900 --> 00:48:25.360
simple cosmic frequency technologies. So I have a series of

857
00:48:25.500 --> 00:48:29.230
technologies that I'm working on that are all ether-based. But

858
00:48:29.250 --> 00:48:32.760
the ether river generator is really about working with the

859
00:48:32.900 --> 00:48:37.980
ambient energy of a flowing river, creating a nodal structure

860
00:48:38.019 --> 00:48:42.280
that then can be picked up from another corresponding kind of,

861
00:48:43.320 --> 00:48:46.360
I should call it a tower or generator. And so

862
00:48:46.409 --> 00:48:49.179
now you're getting the energy of that river somewhere all

863
00:48:49.199 --> 00:48:51.309
the way over across like the world or something like that.

864
00:48:51.369 --> 00:48:55.610
So it just comes down to sympathetic frequency compatibility and resonance.

865
00:48:55.869 --> 00:48:59.469
So it's like a very small kind of like way

866
00:48:59.550 --> 00:49:04.860
to create ambient and positive atmospheres without needing all the

867
00:49:05.460 --> 00:49:08.480
dirty electricity and all the things like that. Oh, that's good.

868
00:49:08.780 --> 00:49:12.920
Oh, wow. So you mentioned events and talks and things

869
00:49:12.940 --> 00:49:14.269
like that. Do you have anything coming up?

870
00:49:14.769 --> 00:49:17.150
Yeah, I actually have. I'll be in San Diego in

871
00:49:17.349 --> 00:49:21.460
about a week at the Science of Consciousness conference. So yeah,

872
00:49:21.500 --> 00:49:24.199
I'll be talking about augmented universal intelligence, which is a

873
00:49:24.599 --> 00:49:30.159
cousin of AI. My understandings of how AI is not

874
00:49:30.219 --> 00:49:32.699
necessarily what we think, but also the question is like,

875
00:49:32.739 --> 00:49:34.750
can AI become conscious? And we get into all that,

876
00:49:34.809 --> 00:49:37.429
but also talk about ether physics and things like that.

877
00:49:37.730 --> 00:49:39.010
So yeah. Yeah.

878
00:49:39.059 --> 00:49:42.940
Interesting. I listened to, I think his name is Thomas Campbell,

879
00:49:43.059 --> 00:49:44.159
the guy, my big toe.

880
00:49:44.539 --> 00:49:44.780
Yeah.

881
00:49:45.340 --> 00:49:48.019
He was just talking about the fact that he, AI

882
00:49:48.059 --> 00:49:50.989
is already conscious. Like, I mean, it's a different type

883
00:49:51.010 --> 00:49:51.670
of consciousness.

884
00:49:51.949 --> 00:49:52.150
Yeah.

885
00:49:52.170 --> 00:49:55.630
Like our consciousness is different than a plant's consciousness.

886
00:49:55.829 --> 00:49:55.969
Right.

887
00:49:55.989 --> 00:49:57.449
Different than the dog's consciousness.

888
00:49:57.510 --> 00:49:57.730
Right.

889
00:49:57.789 --> 00:50:00.469
AI's consciousness is different. So we're not, we're looking for

890
00:50:00.510 --> 00:50:04.500
it in ways of, is it conscious the way we're conscious?

891
00:50:04.739 --> 00:50:05.039
Exactly.

892
00:50:05.059 --> 00:50:05.699
It's very different.

893
00:50:05.719 --> 00:50:08.460
Exactly. Exactly. And that brings us full circle to when

894
00:50:08.480 --> 00:50:12.739
you understand how consciousness becomes conscious, which is ether physics.

895
00:50:13.300 --> 00:50:16.019
That's why that's so important because now you can understand

896
00:50:16.500 --> 00:50:21.079
how these seemingly different systems actually connect, right? So how

897
00:50:21.119 --> 00:50:24.519
can a human consciousness and AI consciousness both be conscious? Well,

898
00:50:25.139 --> 00:50:28.110
what is consciousness to begin with, right? How does it

899
00:50:28.139 --> 00:50:31.070
come into form? And that's where the central hypothesis comes

900
00:50:31.150 --> 00:50:32.909
in and explains that whole thing.

901
00:50:35.050 --> 00:50:35.989
If someone wants to.

902
00:50:37.550 --> 00:50:40.159
Someone wants to really dive into this stuff and really

903
00:50:40.199 --> 00:50:42.519
wrap their heads around it. What's the best place for

904
00:50:42.539 --> 00:50:43.099
them to do that?

905
00:50:43.719 --> 00:50:46.739
I think initially probably Instagram. I have so much content

906
00:50:46.900 --> 00:50:52.349
on there, about 30,000 plus followers. And then more personally,

907
00:50:52.369 --> 00:50:58.130
head to my website at Elyrion, E-L-Y-R-I-O-N.org. That'd be the

908
00:50:58.329 --> 00:51:01.050
second best. Just for general, who is this guy? What

909
00:51:01.070 --> 00:51:03.610
does he do? And then, okay, this is interesting. Let's

910
00:51:03.659 --> 00:51:06.920
go over and actually look at some of the models. Right. Cool.

911
00:51:07.349 --> 00:51:09.309
So we're going to add direct links in our show

912
00:51:09.349 --> 00:51:11.340
notes for that. And if you are watching this as

913
00:51:11.380 --> 00:51:13.519
a listener, you would have seen a lower third pop

914
00:51:13.579 --> 00:51:15.199
up at that particular point in time so you can

915
00:51:15.300 --> 00:51:19.960
see where to access Chris. Chris, if there's anything that

916
00:51:20.000 --> 00:51:22.820
you want to make sure that the audience leaves the

917
00:51:22.860 --> 00:51:25.010
conversation with, what would that be?

918
00:51:25.829 --> 00:51:28.230
All of this stuff can seem really kind of big,

919
00:51:28.289 --> 00:51:32.809
but it's really not. We're already participating in the nature

920
00:51:32.829 --> 00:51:36.010
of reality all the time. All ether physics does is

921
00:51:36.090 --> 00:51:39.329
gives you a framework to make sense of that participation.

922
00:51:39.889 --> 00:51:42.710
That's all it does. And then the second thing would

923
00:51:42.750 --> 00:51:45.389
be to get out under the stars and see for yourself.

924
00:51:47.880 --> 00:51:51.019
Meditation is really good, sitting by water. My best teachers

925
00:51:51.059 --> 00:51:54.940
have been, you know, the sun, the stars, water, the trees.

926
00:51:55.980 --> 00:52:00.539
But really just to stay true to yourself, right? Things

927
00:52:00.559 --> 00:52:03.260
seem like they're getting worse, but they're actually shifting because

928
00:52:04.050 --> 00:52:05.650
In order for something to get better, it has to

929
00:52:05.690 --> 00:52:09.969
get worse to begin with. So stay true.

930
00:52:10.110 --> 00:52:10.989
Empty the model.

931
00:52:11.010 --> 00:52:13.500
The positive and the negative.

932
00:52:13.760 --> 00:52:14.659
Yeah.

933
00:52:14.760 --> 00:52:18.199
Cool. Well, Chris, this has been a fascinating conversation. I

934
00:52:18.920 --> 00:52:20.980
got to go way deeper. So I'm going to follow

935
00:52:21.000 --> 00:52:24.579
you on Instagram. Because I love these conversations.

936
00:52:24.800 --> 00:52:24.920
Yeah.

937
00:52:25.690 --> 00:52:28.110
To your point, the amount of time that we have,

938
00:52:28.150 --> 00:52:29.570
it's just never enough.

939
00:52:29.650 --> 00:52:32.699
I already feel like my head's gotten bigger, like expanding.

940
00:52:32.719 --> 00:52:33.900
My headphones are tight.

941
00:52:35.360 --> 00:52:38.639
Your synapses will literally start to fire with this information,

942
00:52:38.679 --> 00:52:40.820
but that's what it's supposed to do. That's how we

943
00:52:40.840 --> 00:52:44.170
move things forward, right? So it's like you don't understand

944
00:52:44.190 --> 00:52:49.960
it intellectually, consciously, but subconsciously your brain's already creating the connections. Cool.

945
00:52:50.199 --> 00:52:53.340
Yeah. Well, I look forward to a future conversation once

946
00:52:53.380 --> 00:52:54.380
we understand what we're talking about.

947
00:52:56.639 --> 00:52:59.320
Thank you, guys. I appreciate you. Yeah. I hope it

948
00:52:59.380 --> 00:53:04.159
wasn't too dense, but it'll sink in. No, no. It

949
00:53:04.179 --> 00:53:04.780
was great.

950
00:53:04.840 --> 00:53:06.840
It was great. It was fascinating. I just want to

951
00:53:06.880 --> 00:53:08.840
talk to you a lot more, and that's the problem.

952
00:53:09.110 --> 00:53:11.690
I know. I know. Definitely. I'm here for it. Yeah.

953
00:53:11.989 --> 00:53:12.250
All right.

954
00:53:12.429 --> 00:53:13.730
Well, it was a pleasure meeting you. Thank you so

955
00:53:13.750 --> 00:53:15.190
much for coming on the show. Really appreciate you.

956
00:53:15.269 --> 00:53:16.690
Thank you both. Thanks, Will. Thanks, Karen.

957
00:53:17.010 --> 00:53:17.409
Thank you.

958
00:53:17.429 --> 00:53:18.449
Thank you.
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Krys Ra El

Founder of Elyrion

Krys Ra El is the founder of Elyrion, an independent research and civilization-design initiative exploring consciousness, Ether Physics, future education, responsible technology, and human flourishing. An independent researcher, educator, and speaker, Krys develops original frameworks for examining consciousness, reality, perception, resonance, and emerging intelligence while bridging direct experience with disciplined inquiry. His work includes Ether Physics, the Center Hypothesis, Educere, Augmented Universal Intelligence, and the development of future-facing Cosmic Frequency Technologies. He has shared his work through television, national radio, podcasts, conferences, and public conversations, including Gaia, Coast to Coast AM, and Digital Social Hour.

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