Is Hypnosis a Shortcut to Enlightenment? A Hypnotherapist Explains What Really Happens in Trance

0:02 My name is Will and I'm Karen, and unlike Boulder and Scully. Both want to believe. So we've embarked in a journey of discovery. We've talked to people deeply entrenched in the spiritual and metaphysical world. We've thrown ourselves into weird and wonderful experiences. I even joined a coven of witches. And wait, you joined a coven. Yep, all on the interests of finding something, anything that will prove that there's something beyond this physical. Three dimensional world we all live in. This is the Skeptic Metaphysicians. Hey there, guys, I'm Will and I'm Karen. Welcome back to the Skeptic Metaphysicians Live this time around, we're a little off center of Karen, I don't know. Because you're like trying to edge me out. Look at that well hmm, came close in.

0:46 There we go. So, guys, we were excited because we've got we've got a brand new set, We've got a brand new everything, and we don't know how it's going to go. So bear with everything. Everything new, everything, hit new logo, new, Yes, new sand say in excess fans out there, Okay, anyway, we have a special guest today that's going to join us a little bit later. He name is kat Kazimi. She is a licensed hymnal therapist here in town. She's incredible, incredible, and she is She did confirm finding that she is going to put us through something. So if you want to experience hypnosis for yourself, this is the show to be at. Before this mouse runs away from me mcgarret, I know it's hard, but before I had.

1:28 The time, this is like new and weird. Yeah, so we're still getting this stuff. So uh so, I mean, I've got a lot of questions for Kathy, because there's lots of questions to be had anyway. But before we go there, we got a couple of things I want to point out because we got some cool stuff from me from an audience. I want to share with you audience stuff audience with EVA can find it. The very first thing was a voicemail that I want to play. So yeah, so remember I'm not sure if you remember a little while back, I recorded a solo that talked about screaming into the void. See you are edging me out, but yes, no, I do recall that. Yeah, well, so this person indust your name is Sherry from Toronto, Canada sent us a voicemail and I wanted to share.

2:15 That with you so that we will get to hear the audience reaction. Yes, exactly, I think this is it. Okay, let's see fingers crossed. Hi Will and Karen just wanted to say absolutely love your show. Anyway, I'd like to respond to your May fifth, twenty twenty five. Can screaming into the void actually heal you? I would have to say wholeheartedly. Yes. I'm now sixty three and I've been working in the food industry since I've been fifteen, often in kitchens where it gets quite crazy, and have encouraged and we have often walked into the walk in Frasers, closed the door behind us and just scream to let go of the frustration, the things that went wrong, things that went right, and just to let it out. And even now where I work not too far from the Toronto Airport, and a lot of times we will stand out in the parking lot and as the planes fly overhead, we will scream as the planes go over and again letting go.

3:30 And also I've heard that they're actually screaming groups that you can join that people will sit into their basements and just let primorile scream come out, which, especially in today's time, the frustration, the anger, the sorrow, you name it, that it's a better way to let it out without harming somebody else and more importantly, not harming yourself. So yes, I do agree that whatever the chemical reaction that happens in your body, to just stand and scream, and sometimes we end up crying to let it all out. But yes, it is definitely a good way of letting things out and letting them go.

4:20 I know your reaction when you were hearing that. One of the things that really caught your attention was the screaming groups. How fun would that be? Because so I've done that, the screaming. Yes, and so there were sometimes when I was alone a lot with the screaming child, and sometimes when you would get back in town and I would be driving to the grocery store, I would be the screaming person parked in the parking lot, hoping nobody was looking, but not really caring, because you just had to get it, had to get out of my sister. For those who don't know what she's talking about, when our daughter was born, I was traveling a lot for work and she was stuck with a newborn pretty. Much instead sleep for two years for the night, which.

5:01 Was incredibly frustrating. So you have to scream. I like the visual of the plane flying right over hend you and you can't be heard because of the plane. I think that's pretty cool. So if you know of any of those screaming groups in town, let us know. We would love to be part of that. It'd be fun do a live show from there might be a little loud loud. Well, one last thing I wanted to share before we bring on Kat. We got a new review and I want to share that with you. Let me do this because it's going to look weird otherwise. There we go. It is from so Pleasant in Portugal, Portugal.

5:44 They are from Portugal. Name is so Pleasant. They left an Apple podcast review and said it's a five stars you can see, which is nice. Loved it. Loved the episode with Koea Webb. I especially liked it when you guys talked about people claiming to live on what I'm. Just reading it. It's hard to read this thing. To live on breathelone while secretly sneaking biscuits. That would totally be neat yeah, maybe realize I should probably stop hiding snacks from myself in the kitchen. Thank you so much. Well yet definitely. Definitely yeah, you gotta eat something something. If you haven't listened to koy as an episode, we recommend that was a really great one. Talked about allowing yourself to feel it. Don't don't not feel it, but rather you don't have to you don't have to suppress it.

6:31 Like the thing that she went through a lot of really challenging things and what kept her saying was actually allowing her to feel it. That was really an important conversation. So anyway, thank you so much both Sherry and so pleasant. Thank you so much for sending us your voicemails and your reviews. Really and Portugal still very global international baby, But yes, if you would like to hear your voicemail on the air, please go to skeptic position dot com and you can find it there. You can find a little tab that says leave us a voicemail and you'll see it. You can leave as voicemail directly on the website. Makes it super easy. You don't need any special technology or anything like that. But of course, an Apple five star review on Apple podcasts would go really long rate as well. So technique. Yes, it's very good technology if you would mind so. All right, So without further ado, I know that people tuned in because they want to talk to Kat, and I'm going to try to find her intro here, Okay, here we go.

7:31 Today's guest spends her day working directly with a subconscious mind, helping people rewrite patterns that talk therapy alone can't touch. She's a licensed typno therapist, the co host of The Hippie Chakes Live, and she's built her practice on bridging real clinical technique with a deeper, more mystical side of transformation. Did I mention she's amazing? Yeah, you might have wont or twice. She's worked with people looking to break habits. He will trauma and get pas asked the stories they've been telling themselves for years. We're thrilled to welcome home none other than the Cat because he meet to this keptic musicians. Cat. Welcome to the show. How are you doing today, guys?

8:14 It's so good to be here again. Oh my gosh, it's been twenty twenty two. It's was it the last time we talked to us? So much happened since then. Oh my gosh, and how and so much more is still to come. Oh my goodness, I could be happier. Oh, thank you so much for inviting me back. Well, thanks for thanks for accepting the invitation. And it's gonna be odd because usually you're the one that sends us the comments. And now we're not going to have any Oh wait a second comment. We have someone whoo sure Daniel says they'll let anyone in here. Actually, we are not proud, Daniel. Maybe you will, We will let anyone here.

8:56 We'll bring Daniel on next maybe. Oh my goodness, So you guys, I was really loving the voicemail from that listener in Toronto about screaming into the void. What excellent nervous system regulation. That is, no doubt, without question. Anyway you can do that screaming into the freezer room, in your car, in the airplane, or as the plane is going over. It's fantastic. Maybe not in the airplane, well. Maybe the bathroom. Now there's one thing that I did back. I want to say. This was in the nineties. A friend of mine, when things were we were really starting to recycle glass at that time, we went to a recycling place, and they let us go in there and just pick up any glass or any any of the trash.

9:50 They kept it separated. But as long as you kept it separated, we could pick up any piece of glass and just chuck it into the pile. It was fantastic, all right. And they have these wrecking rooms now do with a sledgehammer and they set up and just go to town just tearing stuff up. I would love to do that, but my fear is that I am so out of shape I'll barely be able to lift a sledgehammer and it'll be like bunk. Well they're screaming. A screaming group, I think is something we could probably establish here in the Hampton Roads area. You guys, so I insult about that? I think that's a sense you know what that might be a new business. You know, come scream with me. Well, we know someone who would be silent with people. Come scream with me.

10:36 All right. Well, unfortunately, guys, when I put the comments up, I'm not gonna be able to read them beforehand because there it's too little. So if it's something heinous, please let me know and I'll take it down. But here's the one that says I did that a lot and it feels so good. Yes, it does. Now. Is that the screaming or the breaking stuff? Yeah, because you're you're, like Will said, you're not suppressing it. You're getting that out of your system. Right, And I was from the Mermaid Light. Thank you so much the Mermaid Light for sending us your comment. I hope that one day I'll be able to experience that because it sounds amazing. Oh she said both, Yes, she's done both. Cool. Yes. If again, if you know of any in the area, let us know, we be happy part of it. But anyway, I want to talk to you about hypno therapy. Yes, because we have experienced it and we actually need to be talk to you. We've been saying that for a long time. We need some stuff that we need to go through to talk through with you and get rid of.

11:34 But the biggest question in my mind right off that, because it is the skeptic metapositions, is do you feel that hypno therapy could be the fast track, the easy button to enlightenment. Yeah, okay, thank you, my drop, And I'll tell you why. I'll expand on that why I think it is because well, let me put it to you this way, if it's done by a practitioner that is ethical and is trained properly. Absolutely, there's a lot of shisters out there, just like there is in any kind of industry. They just think that, you know, we're it's a fast buck right, and for some people they know how to sell it that way.

12:19 But if it's if it's, if it's, if it's an ethical practitioner, then what we're doing is actually getting into the source of whatever's blocking you, whatever's holding you back, whatever's weighing you down, whatever belief system you're holding onto, that's limiting you. You can't heal an emotional wound using your rational logical mind. It's it's the wrong instrument because it's like using a ruler to measure the temperature. So it's never going to happen. You've got to get into the subconscious, where where the seed of your your your fears, your hopes, your dreams, your emotions are. The rational logical mind its job is just a to make things happen.

13:01 It's it's the task master. The subconscious is where everything else lives. So once you get in there and heal those unresolved emotional loans, it was like the weight of the world's been lifted off of you, right, and some of. The wounds you don't even know you have, like at all. And that's exactly right. Most people don't they I'm fine, I got over that years ago. No. No, the body keeps the score for sure. You So with my experience that I had with you, I want to say you like you fixed me like that. It was a one well part of me. And it was a situation where I didn't even it wasn't that I had had a trauma or anything. It was just I guess a habit or something. And I remember in the middle of so we had a session.

13:46 Was that in twenty twenty two? That, Yeah, it was a while back, and it's still. I mean, every once in a while I get myself caught back up again, but for the most part, it's. Still the problem. Right. So I was having a really tough time sleeping, falling asleep, and I would be able to two, three four in the morning regularly just think and think and thinking couldn't turn my mind off. And you know that I had to get up early with my kid, and I was just miserable because I was exhausted all the time, and so we went to try this out actually for our podcast Skeptic Metal Positions, and just to. See what it was like. I always wanted to be hypnotized, you know, you see the stage shows, and so I was completely unaware of what was going to happen. Shall not mention the stage shows? And when were speaking to a licensed hypnotherapist. Well, yeah, but I mean that was all I knew.

14:28 I mean, I mean that was what I knew of hypnosis. Sure, yeah, totally different experience, totally different experience. And so you involve your intuition and your your connection with this process. And so when I was deep under you said something and I still I'm going to cry, I think about it right now. And all you said was you don't have to worry anymore. Now. We hadn't talked about why I was not sing, We hadn't talked about anything about maybe. I just talked about, you know, we want to have this experience so we can tell our audience what it's like to go through hypnotherapy. So you knew nothing about anything that was going on, and you said that, and I remember, and that the thing which surprised me with the hypnosis that you're so aware.

15:08 I just started crying and I remember that and I'm just just crying. And I didn't realize that that had become such a part of who I was. It was so ingrained in my subconscious and you intuited that and you said that, and somehow I accepted it, and from that day fourth I was able to sleep, just like right off the bat. It was great that you allowed it. And that was the key right there. It's an integral thing. It's not me doing something to you. You were in a place that you were ready to receive that. Because I can sit there and give you, you know, every trick in the book, and if you're not ready to receive, it's not going to happen. But you were willing enough to allow that. And what it was it was a permission slip right, I'll go.

15:50 Of that and with me, you made me a world class pianist. It was amazing, it was incredible. I'm just stop playing. I never touched a key before, and there I am actually But before we move on, there's a there's a conversation happening. Oh it's Lauren Pierre LINGI. She is a soon to be a new reality TV content partner are very excited to have you on here. Okay uh, and then goes on to say, with the enlightened misfits, yes, And then we had a whole conversation because then then Daniel responded, Hey, Lauren, fancy seeing you here at the same time. We must be cyclically connected, and Lauren, of course says, must be. And then Daniel, please make Karen look like a chicken for that.

16:41 Okay, I'm just gotta be as do I damn. That? Yeah, well, this is the right show for for this. We love the conversation. Please don't hesitate to send us. Put a comment in the comment section, and we're happy to have conversation with you. But we've got I got lots of other questions here for you, because you didn't make me a pianist. You actually we just experienced the void and that's really what I wanted to do with you with critic. So now what I want to do is I want to go back to you and start diving more into the spiritual side of things, because if you talked about right, it's a it's it. I feel like it's like it might be a shortcut to enlightenment.

17:22 So where does hypno therapy end and spiritual awakening begin. That's a good question, Thank. You, a really good question. I'm I'm sure I know how to answer that. Where all right, let me let me kind of break that down a little bit. Where do what did Your question was? Where does hypno therapy end and where does spiritual enlightenment begin? Well, I don't know if it's a matter of hypnotherapy ending, because all hypnosis is self hypnosis, right. I am the facilitator. I am the one that is actually allowing the person to have that permission slept to let go whatever it is.

18:05 They already know what it is. So when you finally allow yourself to meet yourself is when hypno therapy ends, and that's where self enlightenment begins. There's cool there, we can my drop. Right. That's a great answer. But there's a lot of misconceptions about what a trance feels like. Oh right, right, So the whole sleep theory myth, right that supposedly you are in such a deep sleep that you can be told to do anything you want and you do it. But in fact it's just the opposite, right, It's more of like a hyper focused uh state that you you get into. So what does it. What does a trance actually feel like? So's someone who hasn't done it before.

18:51 Sure. Sure. The definition is an altered state of focused awareness that results in a heightened state of receptivity. So you you're not fully conscious and you're not fully unconscious. You're in a twilight zone. It's what's known as the theta brainwave. So you know, you're deeper than your light trans and a light trance is when you're just sitting there scrolling your phone or your your computer, or watching a movie, reading a book. That's a light trans state. This is why the advertisers spend the big money because they have our undivided attention, your attention to your biggest commodity, and we. Have lost sight of that, sadly.

19:32 But when you are in that trans state, you are you're bypassing that rational logical mind. You're in that receptive state where we're able to let go of what isn't serving you and in print what will serve you. And it's my job as a hypnotherapist to present it in such a way that it is acceptable to the subconscious mind. You cannot ever be made to do what you don't want to do or say anything you don't want to say or feel anything you don't want to feel or even remember anything you don't want to feel. And the normal therapeutic or hypnotherapeutic setting that's just Hollywood hwy, that that's not going to happen.

20:13 Right, So Daniel, sorry, but no clucking like a chicken. For carrying not much he really wants to do, which you play your cards right now. But it is you know, like like I like what you said the way you present it, because you didn't for me. You didn't say you know, you're worrying too much or you have to stop this. You're just like, no, this doesn't have to be part of you anymore. Right, you know you can let go, like you let it be my choice when I didn't even know I had that choice to make, right, So it was really fantastic. And I think Daniel, Daniel have a question for Kat. I'd almost read that. Kat, do you find it hard having people surrender themselves over to being hypnotized? Excellent question. I actually specialize in that because I think most of us on this planet are, if not one all three of ad d OCD or analytically minded. And we've got that monkey mind that just doesn't want to shut up.

21:08 And I specialize in that you can't use your generic induction techniques to induce trance. And what I mean by that is just using like your basic guided meditation technique, Like typically you're gonna involve some type of metaphor the nvision this golden light coming in through your head. It's relaxing every muscle in your body, and you're gonna get really slow and sing songing. It's gonna take forever. And if you're analytically minded, you're just like, let's get the show on the road already, right, okay, And you're not going to go into trans because you're too busy going, oh my god, this is just taking forever because we're instant gratification society, right, So, especially the type eight people I know exactly how they typically drop like a stone.

21:58 Because you've more advanced uh techniques that are going to get you, you're going to bypass it. So the monkey mind's just going to go, I'm done, I'm tired, let's let's go. What about on the other side of the equation, like people who fall asleep when you're in the chair. Oh, they're more difficult to be honest, because I'm constantly having to bring them back up from delta, which is down to sleep, to theta, which is hovering just above the sleep state. And that's why people confuse hypnosis with sleep, because you're hovering just. Above them hypnagogic state. Kind of yes, yes, very much so. And so a lot of people do go they keep wanting to go down into that delta state. And I don't want it to be an expensive nap for people.

22:40 Took poke them. Have a little wine, and I wad I thought, you know how long? What was memy sneeze? I poke them with a stick. So I guess everyone should just do a triple shot of espressial before they go to you see you that's it'll fall asleep. In that chair. Life not to do that, and just kind of just keep yourself as as neutral as possible. And honestly, the only thing I tell my clients to do, the only thing you need to do is just follow my directions and allow yourself to relax.

23:22 There's nothing you need to do, there's no right or wrong way. Well, we're going to allow people to feel that for themselves here in just a second. But before we do that, Daniel did have a follow up, I says it doesn't have a monkey mind, but he is only second generation in his family to stand up straight, so not far removed from the tree. I guess you have a guy following you around. Oh, I don't know, if I do I have a sound effect? No, I don't know. No, No, I guess is that the screamer all the all the sound effects was like an race and anyway, Oh, I know it is. I don't have the things set up, but anyway, okay, well let's let's just have everyone feel it for themselves.

24:03 You have like a twenty minute little hypno short hypno session that we're going to go through here before we get started. Is this Is there something we should know about before we dive into this. Well? Absolutely, You're gonna want to be comfortable, you know, be sit comfortably in your chair, your your Do you feel like you need to move? You got an etch, cough, sneeze, do what you do whatever you need to do. You don't feel like you have to sit there comatos. Please don't be driving while you're listening. Oh yeah, a good call. But if you're watching this while you're driving, shame on you. Pull over the side of the road for crying out loud. Please please place. But really this is all about just getting you to just a relaxed state. If you if you don't feel like you're getting deep, don't, don't obsess over that, Just allow whatever it is that you feel to feel. And and the suggestions that I'm going to bring uh is really all just about reuniting with yourself. You your best version of yourself. You know, that best version of yourself that you know that lives in there and sometimes isn't at the surface. We're going to bring him or her closer to the surface.

25:09 Fabulous. I love that, And that's a good choice. Now is it someone who listens to this later on in a podcast format, will they also get the same effects? Absolutely? All right? But that right, Well, then let me switch over to the media side of things and start the music and we'll get started. Give me one second. What kind of new is it? It is reggae? Mostly here we go go, good staff, I would make it too loudly, okay, and. Then let me put up the graphics that you we feel comfortable so you're not staring at us on screen all time. That's right, that's Kathy.

25:50 We'll turn it over to you. All right, guys, we'll see you on the flip side. All right, fans, nice graphics, well, thank you. Thank you, and everybody. Go ahead and get yourself as comfortable as possible. And when you feel comfortable and you're settled down, I want to take a deep breath then, and as you exhale, let's go ahead and settle yourself in. Just let your body find its own best way to rest. And if your eyes want to close, let them, and if they'd rather stay open for a while, that's fine too. Either way, you can just simply listen quietly to the sound of my voice, and of course you'll be aware of other sounds as well. It's the hum of life moving around you, the gentle rhythm of the space that you're in right now, and all those sounds inside or outside are a part of the same background symphony that reminds you that you are safe. Support it. I'm completely free to relax because the only sound that you really need to follow is my voice. And while you do, you can just simply

27:21 allow yourself to rest the way a leaf rests on still water, just effortlessly supported, floating exactly where it needs to be. That's right, Now as you rest there, just begin to notice your body in your hands, where they rest in your arms, and how they just find their natural weight against gravity, and the way your shoulders maybe begin to settle down just a little bit more, and even your head perhaps feels just a little bit heavier or maybe lighter, as if it's just gently suspended in air.

28:21 Either way, it feels perfectly right. And that sense of rightness begins to spread now through your chest, your stomach, and legs, all all the way down to the very tips of your toes. And now just notice your breathing. Notice how your breath begins to move rhythmically and at its own pace, and you don't have to control it, just observe it as your body naturally chooses the perfect pace.

29:11 And as you breathe, you might even sense your heart beat, and you may notice how your heart and your breath begin to sink up now like two dancers moving together, perfectly attained. And you might even find that with your next few breaths you can invite them both to slow down, just to touch, like turning down the dimmer on a light, just softening everything to a warm, comfortable glow. You've got nothing to do right now and know where to be, so you can just allow your whole system body, mind and energy to just hum quietly now, like a well tuned engine, just idling in perfect harmony, smooth, steady, effortless.

30:13 And if you notice your arms and legs again, you could just let that wave of eaves flow right through them, every muscle, remembering how to soften, very joint, remembering how to loosen, and you might even find a new layer of calm beneath the one you thought was already complete. I mean, even the muscles of your face now, or around your eyes, and your jaw and your forehead just begin to smooth out and soften, so the sun has melted away the last frozen traces attension. Even find yourself wondering how long all those tiny tensions have been living there, But you know it doesn't really matter, because they're leaving now.

31:12 They're done, You've outgrown them. And as your body continues to drift deeper into stillness, your awareness can expand it's feeling the natural rhythm of your heartbeat, the steadiness of your breath, and the grounded piece that lives underneath everything else. And you know you can move if you wanted to. I mean, I know you can move if you wanted to, but you just simply can't be bothered even try, because this stillness just feels too good, too safe, to complete, to even bother trying. I mean, every breath deepens this peace, doesn't it. Every excel carries away another trace of effort, and you just drift now, completely safe, completely supported.

32:32 I'm completely free to simply be. And there is nothing that you need to do right now, no task, no deadline, just this one invitation. To notice what you notice. That's it. Just let your mind wander exactly the way it wants to, Because even minds that race drift, and even thoughts that thin spiral down. I mean, even now you may start to realize that noticing is more powerful than controlling.

33:20 So notice the way your. Breath moves without your help, and the tiny shifts and temperature across your skin, and the weight of gravity doing its work, and how you don't have to do anything about any of it. So just imagine for a moment that. Your thoughts are bubbles, not thoughts that you have to pop or chase, Just bubbles rising, some drift left, some float up, and it's perfectly Okay, they burst, vanish, or even merge into each other. Because the thoughts do whatever thoughts do, you don't have to follow them. Instead, follow the space between the thoughts, the gaps, the pauses, like the silence between notes and the song. You love that space.

34:34 That's where you're going. And in this space, something begins to shift, because the more you let go of trying to get it right, the deeper you go. So notice your hands. Are they warmer or cooler than your feet? Does the right hand feel heavier than the left, or left hand lighter than the right, or they flipping evenly, weightless like leaves on water. I mean, there's no need to decide. You're not here to solve anything. You're here to drift. You may not even notice when it happens.

35:19 I mean, that's how gently this trance arrives. There's no need to feel any particular way. Just allow the allowing. I mean, even now, you may feel a subtle shift, as if you're no longer sitting and all but floating, just a little hovering in that space where thought makes sensation and sensation becomes sound, and sound becomes silence, and that deep, calm, connected silence, that sinks to your subconscious and says, yes, this is safe. Yes, this is where change begins. So just take a moment now to arrive as you come back home to yourself. This is not a space for shame, it's not a place for brain.

36:30 This is a secret invitation to remember who you were before the world taught you to judge yourself. With every breath, you are giving your subconscious permission to release what no longer serves you, to unwind the nots, to dissolve the distortions, to return you to your original essence, the one that knew it was worthy without what. When you're not here. To fix yourself, You're here to free yourself, to meet your edges with love, to listen without functually, to tell the old stories that they're no longer needed. I mean, right now, your mind's offense, your defenses take a step back, and you're subconscious ancient wives electric leans in ready knowing that every word that follows is a key, every question a doorway, and you are safe to walk through.

37:46 And you're safe to release. So just let yourself settle into this moment and become aware of your deeper thoughts and to them, value them, and most importantly, trust yourself, and right here, right now, in this calm place of self awareness and clarity, give yourself full permission to evolve. Give yourself permission to embrace every part of you, even the parts you used to resist, because all of it has made you wiser, stronger, and much more capable than you were before. And now it is safe to let the healing begin. Allow yourself to think.

38:44 From this moment on, I give myself full permission to thrive. It's no longer about being in survival mode. Allow yourself to think. From this moment on, I rise into the version of me that feels aligned, solid and self lead rather than self critical. I choose to reconnect with my clarity and my wisdom and my power to shape my experience mindfully rather than mindlessling. Allow yourself to think, I choose freedom. Freedom from old stories, freedom from chronic self doubt that leads to anxiety, freedom from the inner critics.

39:38 Echo freedom is my new baseline. It lives. And now. Allow yourself to think, I forgive myself for caring thoughts that never even belong to me. Oh judgments, limited inherited beliefs, unspoken shames of guilts. I released it all. I choose relief, I choose lightness. I choose to live unburdened because freedom isn't just a concept, it's the air that I breathe down. Allow yourself to think, I trust my own inner compass. I'm no longer guided by obligation or outdated expectations, even my own. What others believe I should be is irrelevant. I'm no longer living by someone else's script. Allow yourself to think. Joy starts with them.

40:54 It is an internal connection and it doesn't depend on a paycheck or a relationship, or on a number on a scale. So I nature my innerspace and I choose to feel good. Because I can't allow yourself to think. I choose to grow through what I go through. Challenges will always come, but I will always rise. I look for the lesson, I find the gift, and I keep going only stronger. That is who I am. Now, allow yourself to think. I release the need for outside validation.

41:47 What others think, say, or do is their story, not mine. Myself. Author's rooted in truth, not opinions, because I am. My own foundation. Because you understand that people don't change unless they want to. But you what you can change is your response. You can reclaim your power right here, right now, in this safe, supportive space of hypnosis, You're choosing new responses, new boundaries, and a new default setting of inner balance.

42:30 And of course you're still kind, she's. Still thoughtful, skilled and intelligent, but the skills are balanced now. You're no longer weighed down by what others say or do, or even by your own self expectations. You take care of you, not in a selfish or arrogant way, but from a place of self awareness. And self love. And as a result of this. Your entire body mind system feels and thrives for being ignowed, appreciated, and cared for by you. And in this deep data state, anything in your system that was operating below optimal is gently and automatically shifting back into harmony. Every system and every system in your body, every cell, every nerve, every corner of your mind is receiving this message that it is safe to heal. Now it is time to restore.

43:31 From this place of deep calm, your nervous system unlines and regulates, your immune system, strengthens your heart rate, studies, your mind clears everything comes online. Anything misaligned, known or unknown is now being replaced, rectified, revitalized, and renewed. Allow yourself to think, I meet each day with a calm, confident energy. Whatever life brings to me today, I know I'll handle it calmly, because each day and every way, I'm just getting better and better and better. It's right because you are feeling much calmer than you've felt for a long time, Calmer and more relax and much more at piece of yourself in the world and everyone in it, because you're now accepting yourself for the wonderful human thing that you are, a person with a good and kind heart, a person with high ideals, high intelligence, and high aspirations, and the potential to exceed any limitation that you may accept yourself because you're finally beginning to realize this. You know that your best is always good enough. You really don't need to prove to anyone that you could do any better, because you've always done your very best and everything you do. You're realizing now how important it is

45:07 to just be easy about your life, because you are important. The most important thing in your life is you, and from now on you feel so much calmer, much more relaxed, and much more comfortable about yourself than you have felt in a long long time, because you really do trust yourself now, not because I say so, but because you've already decided this. The idea is yours and it's now, and it's a feeling that you have deep within you. You trust and appreciate yourself. You're kind to yourself, and your thoughts about yourself and others are kind and positive and nourishing. And you not realize that you don't have to prove anything to anyone. You are safe and secured at all times. And I realized how simple it is to hold the knowing that you are the one in control of your world. Not only are you the director of your own play, but you're also the screenwriter, the producer, and the star of the show too. Now, before you begin to gently rise back into full waking awareness, you might just like to let yourself laying your hair a little bit longer in the soft space between the world, to gather what you've experienced, the thoughts and images and the white insights that may have surfaced. You may find

46:42 yourself thinking differently, responding more calmly, feeling more grounded and resource from that part of you that's always been wise, is now perhaps a little closer to the surface now the days ahead, and folding this a little differently as you begin to use more and more of your own inner intelligence. That's right. Now, You've just taken a remarkable in your journey, and your willingness to show up for yourself as already sparking tremendous transformations on every level of your being, and every day you'll be pleasantly surprised as your continued progress. Now, in a moment, I'm going to count from one to five, and on the kind of five and open your eyes completely emerged remnos is feeling revived and renewed, like you've just stepped into warm sunlight after a long, hard winter.

47:42 And notice every cell in your body buzzing with energy and every breath is a reminder that this is your new normal. And even long after the hypnotic experience fades, its impact will linger and grow stronger, and you'll feel more connected mentally, physically, emotionally and spiritually, accepting yourself now as you are, and as you allow yourself to evolve, as you choose the timeline where you succeed, as you rise fully lined. That's right, So now let's return us gently and completely to your full waking awareness. One you're gently beginning to rise from hypnosis, bringing back with you the calm confidence you've cultivated today when they get soaked in, deeply becoming a permanent part of your baseline.

48:35 Two. The energy is returning now, flowing throughout your body, activating your higher frequency and your deeper intelligence. You can feel it lighting up every selling your body. Three, even in just these few moments, real transformation has begun, and what once felt like a challenge now feels like something you know how to move through. Four. Returning to the room, to the heir and now with clear head and bright eyes, and you feel as though they've been both dipped in a mountain stream, feeling reprogrammed for joy and light like, buzzing with well being and five eyes open all the way back, wide awake, feeling you're right coming back into your body, stretching out, wriggling your fingers in your toes, noticing how good you feel.

49:31 And you do feel good, don't you? I believe, Karen? Does I feel quite good? hYP No? Hi, baby girl? I love it? Oh good? So, Kathy? Is there something to be said about being hypnotized? With you again. That makes it so much easier or drop in or was it just my imagination? No? No, no, no, because it's the familiarity. Yeah. Yeah, you're not on guard because we have rapport. You trust me. Yeah. Now, because every time I close my eyes to do it, I just I find myself just I was in, go right into it. Yeah.

50:11 Now, as you were starting to count us out, I was like, okay, what God, how are we gone? Over time? Are we? Like? I started talking thinking like all the technical stuff, So I had to I pulled myself out earlier. But you what at that funt because I'm going, oh my god, what if they're so deep? I'm just we're just sitting here. That was me, my guys, I talk to you out. Well. Uh. Medium Daniel asked what percentage of people can and cannot be hypnotized. I cannot do guided meditation, but I do fall asleep at a play. Okay, Honestly, I've never run across anybody who cannot be hypnotized, and I'll tell. You why that is. First of all, I do a. Thorough explanation of the entire hypnotic experience before we do any trans work.

50:54 So we take the WU wou out of it. We take. I guess, all all the misconceptions out of it, and once you understand it, it's psychology and physics and all you have to do is follow my directions and allow yourself to relax. Yeah, it happens a lot faster than you think it. What, especially if you have a very active mind and you're very analytically minded and you have a hard time relaxing, and just like you know, just keeps on going. I've never run across anybody that can't be hypnotized. Wow, it's funny this time, you know. I was kind of in there floating around, and I'm like, Okay, I'm gonna try to think of something, and I couldn't. Like I had the opposite. I couldn't bring the monkey back, not that I would want the monkey around. I always wanted to see, you know, and it was.

51:35 Tested, put a test to it. Yeah yeah, yeah, Well I'm glad you did that, and because there was a bigger part of you that like, this feels better than bringing in the chaos. Yeah. Well, we have very little time left, which is makes me sad. We're definitely want to do more of this, but uh, A quick question for you, because I know people are asking themselves this. You are really wonderful, and it's the The in person experience is different than the livestream stuff because your mind is kind of distracted and things like that. But can you help people that are out of your area? You really okay, you can help any you can help. So so pleasant from Portugal if you want, if you wanted today one.

52:24 Actually, I've done hypnosis sessions virtually to Canada. I'm originally from Maryland. I've only been in Hampton Roads for five and a half years now, so clearly I have a lot of clients still in Maryland and I still work with them virtually. And yeah, in person it's my favorite. I'm going to not lie about that, But virtually is wonderful as well. And I give you a checklist of how you want to set up your environment to get the most out of your session, and you're going to have me and your earbuds or headphones or whatever. So I kind of like that aspect of it because it's there's nothing distracting you. Right, It's cool. So if someone wanted to reach out and book a session with you, what's the best place for them to do that?

53:04 They could go to hypno helps you dot com. What all of a sudden the lower third part like wow, as if I had planned that or something. Wow. Well you are amazing. You are in Virginia Beach, if you are in the hantrim Ville area, we strongly urge you to go see her in person because it is something else at this chair? Do you still have the chair? Awesome? Well, Kat, is there any last minute words of wisdom you want to leave with the audience in the last three minutes that we have on the show.

53:46 Oh? Yeah, Actually, don't be afraid of yourself, because a lot of people when they hear that I'm a hypnotherapist, I'll get a oh I don't want to go there. I'm afraid of what I'm going to find out. I hadn't thought about that. That's a good time. Like they think they're going to open this Pandora box and all all the crap from their childhood's going to be right for words, and that doesn't happen. That's only things that you're ready for. You. Yeah, that, And you know, here's the thing. Hito therapy is much different than than your talk therapy, where you're just talking about you know, all the bad things mom and Dad did to you right, and you may feel better in the moment, but you never really feel emotionally healed. And with this this process, it's very more behind the scenes. I'll you give the metaphor that when you take your trash out to the curb, you don't under the twist tie and stick your face in the bag.

54:37 You don't pull it out, rub it all over. You gave it. Out to the curb and then nice people take it away and you don't even have to watch them do itotherapy. Such a great analogy. It's a disgusting visual, but nice analogy. Well, we've got we had, I got my glass is official help the other hippie chick has arrived. That was amazing. What a great episode. Love you guys, We love you too. Lle thanks so much for being then. I want to make sure I bring we help those who truly want to be helped, including strit medium Daniel. Yes, absolutely, and good to see you peeps. It's always good to see you too, Daniel. Thank you so much for being a part of this and for joining us on our show. Kathy, you are incredible. We love you, We thank you, and we can't wait to hang out again. So let's let's make that happen.

55:33 Absolutely absolutely Hippie Chicks every Friday for New Reality TV. Great plug. Thanks for that, all right, Take care, Kat, It's beautiful.