Journey to Higher Realms: Tips for Spiritual Growth and Connection - Classic
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What if the reason you feel alone on your spiritual path is simply because you forgot who's been walking alongside you the entire time?

In this episode, Will & Karen sit down with Marty Rawson, founder of Spirit Alliance, author, multidimensional healer, and certified practitioner of everything from EMF Balancing to Melek-level light work. Marty brings a grounded, no-nonsense approach to the big questions, and his answers have a way of making the mystical feel surprisingly practical.

Before the interview, Will opens with a personal reflection pulled from The Living Gita, wrestling with one of the hardest spiritual practices in a divided world: looking at the person across the aisle and genuinely seeing yourself. It's a moment of rare honesty that sets the tone for everything that follows.

Then Marty takes over, and the conversation goes deep fast.

Here's a taste of what you'll hear:
  • Why Earth was turned into what Marty calls "the emotional university of the universe," and what that means for why you're here right now
  • The real reason most people can't connect with their angels and guides (and it's not what you'd expect)
  • How spirit communicates differently with every person, and the one subtle sign almost everyone is already receiving without realizing it
  • Why Karen's "doubt" and Will's "fear" might actually be the same thing, just wearing different clothes
  • Marty's own turning point. a divine intervention that changed everything. and what he felt in the presence of beings of pure love and light
  • The surprisingly simple first step to opening your third eye that has nothing to do with meditation
  • How one person, starting from exactly where they are, can actually change the world
Marty also talks about his book, It Doesn't Have to Be This Way: A Spirit Alliance, available on Amazon worldwide, packed with techniques for working with energy, understanding universal laws, and beginning to experience multidimensionality for yourself.

If you've been wondering whether that connection to something greater is real, or whether it's meant for someone else and not you, this episode was made for you.

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Karen.

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Yes, every once in a while we come across someone

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that's such a perfect guest that it blows your mind. Now,

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we've been incredibly fortunate to have been blessed with a

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lot of those types of guests so far in his

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journey discovery, we have now the biggest challenge when a

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perfect guest comes along is when they have so much

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knowledge to share that we're overwhelmed by it all and

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find it absolutely impossible narrow down a single topic of

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discussion for the show. Very true, Today's guest poses just

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such a challenge. Now, the messages he rings with him

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come directly from spirit, and what we can tell you

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is that by the end of this episode, you're going

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to have been enlightened, entertained, inspired, and above all, motivated

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to dive even deeper into your spiritual journey.

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Welcome to the Skeptic Metaphysicians.

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My name is Will and I'm unlike Boulder and Scully,

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both want to believe, so we've embarked in a journey

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of discovery.

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Welcome to Skeptic Politicians Classic you are listening to Classic

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Skeptic Metaphysicians. Welcome to our version of a walkdown Memory

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Lane as we present classics from the Skeptic Metaphysician Library,

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warts and all before we get started with the main

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interview on the show. Something I want to bring up

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to your attention. It's something that I'm having a hard

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time with. Now it makes perfect sense to me, but

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I'm still having a hard time with it. So i

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wanted to share that with you and see if you

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felt the same. The thought comes from reading The Living

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Gida by swis Swami Sachidananda, and there's a part in

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there where Krishna is telling ar Yuna that we are

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all one. And we've heard a lot about that in

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this new thought, new age movement, whatever you want to

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call what we're doing here, the fact that we are

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all one. But what exactly does that mean at the

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core of it, Well, I would think that what it

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means is that when you look at another person, you're

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really looking at yourself in a different situation, in a

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different body and a different personality, a different you, but

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you nonetheless. And then he talks about chocolate. I know,

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I love chocolate. There's all so many different types of chocolate,

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different sizes and shapes and flavors. And you go to

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a candy store and the kids order one kind of chocolate,

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the other kid orders a round chocolate, another one orders

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a square chocolate, and they're all arguing about which one's

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the best. Oh, mind tastes better, No, mind tastes better.

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At the end of the day, it's all chocolate, right,

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It's all the same thing. They're just in different forms,

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different shapes, but they're the same thing. So I have

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a hard time with that because in this age of

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complete and utter division in our country, at the very

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least here in the United States, when you look at

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someone across the aisle and you see the things that

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you feel are so incredibly heinous that you can't believe

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that they would actually believe some of the things, you

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start to demonize them, you start to see them as

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not you. And that's one of the things that I'm

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working on. One of the hardest things that I'm working

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on is when I look at you, I want to

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see me in another circumstance. And it's important for you

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to be in a different circumstance, because that's why we're

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here to experience all circumstances, in all points of view

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and all examples of what we could possibly be and

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think and feel and so instead of demonizing someone from

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the other side of the aisle, I'm trying to see

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them and celebrate them as who they are, and that

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is someone that is me trying to experience something completely

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different than what I in will form is experiencing. And

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that's beautiful when you think of it that way, when

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you can see yourself. And there have been times when

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I've been driving down the street and suddenly I feel

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this connectedness with everyone else around me that's driving as well,

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everyone in their cars, everyone in the street. I just

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see them as me in different circumstances, and that changes everything, everything,

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and that's really amazing. But it's so easy to fall

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out of it, especially these days. So I urge you

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and encourage you to try that today. Go around and

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everyone you see, try to see them as another you

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in a different circumstance, because honestly, that's the reality of it.

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They are a different you in a different experience, and

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that is perfectly okay, that is divinely okay. You see,

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we need to celebrate each other in our different circumstances

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so that when we reunite as one in the astral plane,

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we can bring these experiences and this knowledge to ourselves

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in oneness.

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Does that make any sense? I hope it does, because

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you looking at you across the aisle. So try to

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do that with love.

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Hi, I'm will and I'm caring and today's main topic.

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Guest is an author, a certified advanced practitioner of EMF balancing,

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a Holy Fire three Karuna Reiki master. He's also a

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certified Level five Melchazdic Method facilitator.

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I have to look up how to pronounce it.

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That's easy for you to say.

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Gis indited right, a light body activator and a multi

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dimensional healer. I'm not sure what he's not, but he's

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everything else. He's also the founder of Spirit Alliance, and

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organization dedicated to teaching and assisting people to stand on

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their own light and empower themselves. Get this, Karen, by

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helping them in their own connection with the angelic realm

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and higher dimensions. I knew that would get your attention. Now,

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that enables them to experience their own personal divine It's

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my absolute pleasure to welcome into the show, Marty Rawson.

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Marty thinks so much for coming on.

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Well, and thank you very much for having me. Joy

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to be here.

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There's so many questions popped in mind right off the bat,

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so many questions including what the heck I just pronounced

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How to pronounce it?

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How close did I get to it?

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Not? Very Damn Google Translator failed me again.

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That's all right, it's Melchisa.

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That Oh I was not close at all.

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Yeah, Melchisa Deck is truly one of the lords of

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light and the universe.

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Well, I hope that he forgives me for butchering his name.

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Oh, nothing to forgive. I'm sure he's chuckling right now.

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That is absolutely amazing. I also practice are beta and

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I love it. So that's right, are you another little

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tidbit in there? So I have enjoyed a lot of

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different things and aspects of spiritual reality. So yeah, there's

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a lot of stuff that we can talk about today. Yeah.

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In fact, like I mentioned earlier, the hardest thing is

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narrowing down the topic of this conversation because you have

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so much to share.

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The very first question that jumps.

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To mind directly is Marty. Why are we here? Right,

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that's the ultimate question. Why is humanity here? And are

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we alone in our plight throughout this course of our lifetimes?

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to be alone. You can think it if you want to,

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but that's just fooling yourself. Humanity was put on this planet,

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or created on this planet, however you want to look

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at it, quite some time ago, and our consciousness fell

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to a very low state. But spirit, being the wonderful

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beings of light that they are, they decided, well, let's

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use this for soul growth, and so that's what they do.

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They developed this into the spiritual university of the universe,

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the emotional university, i should say, and that is why

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a lot of our problems here are emotionally related. So

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what my goal is with Spirit Alignance is to try

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to help people to create that real, honest connection with

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their angels and their guides and the beings of light

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that want so much to work with them. Because none

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of us are alone, we always have help, we always

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have guidance, and when we invite them into our lives

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and give them permission to work with us, all we

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have to do after that is pay really close attention

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to the subtle signs and things that they are giving us,

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and before long you're creating magic in your life instead

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of misery. And so it's a beautiful thing.

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Can anybody make that connection? Or can everybody make that connection?

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Because sometimes it seems like some people are just so

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gifted and so enlightened and others just aren't.

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Well. I believe that yes, anybody can, Okay, but I

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also believe that there are different It's like a school.

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Some people are in grade school, some people are in

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junior high, some people are in high school, some are

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in college university.

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And some of us are cloud college.

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Yes, we each have to know our place has done.

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And so nobody is better than or less than, you know,

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anybody else, because I mean, good lord, our children are

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no less than we are. We don't even look at

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them that way. There's they're you know, they're very special.

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Fact. In fact, some people think that the children are

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actually closer or higher, more evolved, because they're closer to

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the veil and there are closer to definitely.

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Yeah, what I'm trying to get to is that there's

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levels of learning, levels of growth, and some people came

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here specifically to experience the physical to have their beginning

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lessons in learning about physical reality and life in a

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physical world instead of the etheric higher dimensions. And so

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that's what they came here to do. And they're not

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really ready to be enlightened yet. Okay, that's a little

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bit in later grades. So it doesn't mean that they

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are less than It simply means that that's where they're

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at in their learning process, Okay, their growth. So some

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people have been here many times there. We've even had

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masters that have ascended that come back and try to

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be of assistant. And so those beings are fully wide

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away and are the ones that are the true inspirations

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for us and others, you know. So it's literally like

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step and there's a whole wide range of humanity that

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covers the entire gamut. And that's the way it should be. Okay,

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So those that have connection with spirit need to help

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others understand that you can do this if you really

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want to do it, all you have to do is

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invite them into your life and then pay very very

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close attention and follow the urgings, the nudges, the thoughts

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that come into your head. Pay attention to your dreams.

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Do all of this stuff, pay very close attention, and

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before long you will be have more and more synchronicities

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pop up in your life, and pretty soon you're going

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to be laughing and joking with them and realize that, Wow,

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you guys have really helped me to make my life

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a better place to be.

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You've mentioned something while you are explaining this about how

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some of the I guess spirits want to come and

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experience the physical, and so I'm thinking about this as

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you're speaking, like, well, if our goal is to kind

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of get out of this physical realm and become one

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with the universe, source, spirit, whatever you want to call it,

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why would it be important to experience the physical if

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that's not ultimately part of the beyond.

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For lack of well, to my understanding, it is that

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your soul growth is wherever it is at, however far

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you have gone before this, and in the higher realm,

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everything is comparatively perfect and there is no opposition, there

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is no downside to really anything, And you must admit

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you don't learn a whole lot when everything is perfect

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and warm and fuzzy. You actually learn through strive, through struggle,

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through enduring the hardships and all of this. That's how

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we actually learn life lessons. So one seventy year lifetime

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on Earth, especially being the emotional university of the universe,

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can equal a million years worth of growth for your

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soul if it were to just try to stay in

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the higher dimensions and learn all that. So this is

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the Master's class. This is literally where the even the

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people that are not quite ready to be enlightened, they've

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been their souls are ready to be here. They couldn't

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be here. And so everybody here is really advanced beings.

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You heard it, hear Karen, He says, I'm an advanced being. Yeah,

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finally bounce.

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Thank you, Marty, You're welcome. And what I would really

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like people to realize is to quit thinking like a human.

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And I get a lot of strange looks sometimes when

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I say that, like I just did. Yeah, But let's

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look at this from spirits point of view. We are

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actually beings of light. We existed before we came in.

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We wrote our contract for our highest soul growth, and

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we came into this embodiment and we left our spiritual

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family at home. They're the ones watching over us. They

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remember everything all the time. They know us better than

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we know ourselves, and yet we have forgotten them, so

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they want nothing more. It's like a family reunion, like

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somebody's coming out of a coma and oh they remember

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you and it's it's beautiful. Okay, So they really want

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to work with us. But we have to do our

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part in order to create that connect, and that is

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trusting them that they are there and that they will

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help you, and paying very close attention so you can

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get the signs and the signals.

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We're going to go into all the science and signals

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in a second. But a question just throws itself into

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my face and I have to just spit it out

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otherwise it's going to drive me crazy. You're talking about

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we leave our soul family behind. He's the question that

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I need to ask more and more people.

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Everyone's saying that we.

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Are really all just one one thousand, million, drillion, gazillion

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souls or whatever fragments. If we're all one, how are

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we leaving family behind? Is it not just us we're

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leaving ourselves behind.

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Well, yeah, you can look at it that way. It's

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not really that we leave them behind. It is that

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we forget that we are spirit, right, Okay, So in

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our own amnesia we leave them behind. We don't They're

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right here with us.

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I got you, but we don't see them.

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Most of the time. We don't see them. We don't

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listen to them, we don't notice them. And so they

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are standing around just going and know, Hey, when's it

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gonna notice this? And it sure would be nice to

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help out with this situation.

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You know, it sounds like me and every party we

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threw carey, aren't you gonna notice me? So then how

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do you know when they're talking to you? And you

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hear about like the angel numbers, the ones in the

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four four fours and all that kind of stuff. But

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how can you know for sure? Because I there was

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a point in time when I was seeing those numbers

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everywhere and then something happened and it went dry.

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So did I piss somebody.

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Off or diture?

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What happened?

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They really don't get mad?

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Okay?

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Have they got mad? Okay? They have been stern with

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me when I needed it, Okay, But the love was

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still so thin that it was peer could not exist. Okay.

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So they are truly unconditional beings of love and light.

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And so what I say is that first off, whatever

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you get into, if you get into the numbers, they

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will work with you by numbers. If you look at

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dreams or you receive a lot of information through your dreams,

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they will work with you that way. If you are

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into animal totems, they will bring animal totems to you

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so that you can see what those messages are, Okay,

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whatever it is, because they communicate with each individual in

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exactly the perfect way for that individual. So everybody's unique

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and different, and so that's what they will do. Now.

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One thing that I will say for everyone is pay

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very very close attention to your own thought, what you believe,

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for your own thoughts, because they can actually speak to you,

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and if you're not paying attention, you will think that

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it's your thought. But here's the difference. It will be

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somebody talking to you. I have had them when I

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was thinking something. I've literally had them say and why

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would you think that? Okay, And it took me a

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second because it felt so much like my own thought,

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and I realized, holy smokes, they're talking to me. Yeah,

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you're right. Why was I think of that? You know?

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And so you have to pay very close attention to

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your thoughts and also the sudden urges or impulses that

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come upon you. Whether you're whatever you're doing, it doesn't matter.

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But if you get a thought or a sudden impulse

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to do something slightly different than your were, if it's

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a good thing, if it's you know, not a bad thing,

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follow it. You know, turn left on this street going

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home instead of the way you usually do, or whatever

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the minor little thing is, because you never know what

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they're going to show you. They when I went to Egypt,

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they literally gave me the tour of a lifetime by

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separating me from the group to help me find every

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single thing I wanted at every temple we visited, and

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it was. It was incredible. So I had read Drinbattlemilk

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Kisadex A Flower of Life, volume one and two, and

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he goes deep into every one of the temples exactly

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what they were used for and all of that. So

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when I went to Egypt, I wanted to find out

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was all of this true? Was everything that he said true?

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It was really important to me, And so when we

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went to those temples, I ended up. I felt everybody

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else was walking away from me, but apparently I was

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walking away from them, and I was just letting spirit

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guide me, and at every Shingle temple I found exactly

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what he had put in those books and what was there,

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and you could look at it and go, wow, he

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was right. This is how this is laid out, this

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is what it was for. So, I mean, there's all

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sorts of different things that can help you with it.

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Sounds like you have to do one or two things,

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either be hyper vigilant or super relaxed and open, and

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both sounds least exhausting to me, because.

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If I'm constantly having to be vigilant about what I'm thinking,

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I don't know if I could do that.

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I don't really believe you have to be hyper vigilant, Okay,

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although I got to admit when I started out, I

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was there, you go, I mean, but eventually you learn

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to relax and just notice, just notice what you're thinking

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and what you're feeling, and follow those impulses and that

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sort of thing, and pay attention to your dreams. People

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don't really pay close enough attention to their dream So

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if you have a very vivid dream and you have

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emotions attached to whatever is going on in that dream,

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look at the symbolism of what those things mean in

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your dream, and pay attention to the emotions that you

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had with it, and that will give you huge information

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about what they're trying to tell you. And what I

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mean by that is very basic. But if you are

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in a small boat on a rough sea, Okay, water

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is connected with emotion, and so you might want to

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look at how tumultuous your emotions are at the time,

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what's going on emotionally, pay attention to whatever it is.

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So how did you start on this path? You have

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done so much, but I had to have begun with something,

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and how did you know it was real?

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Marty?

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Before you answer that, I'm getting an urge and a

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message that we're supposed to take a break, So I

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think I need to follow that.

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Right when we come back, we're going to continue.

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Talking to Marty about this stuff. Especially we'll have him

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answer Karen's great question, because that was a great question.

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But we also want to talk about how we can

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make our personal connection with these angelic beings, because I

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know that is something that is an incredible interest to Karen.

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So stay with us and we'll be right back. Welcome

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back to the skeptic metaphysicians. We are speaking to Marty Rawson,

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who is an everything type of spiritual teacher. He knows

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everything there is to be in our spirituality. We're super

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blessed to have them. And this is not the conversation

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I thought we were going to have, Marty, but these lines,

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these messages. But apparently spirit wants us to follow this path,

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so we'll keep going on it for now. Right before

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the break here and aster him really great question, carett

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Wyn't you restate your questions that Marty can answer for you?

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How do I restate that you have done so much

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along this path? And I want to know how did

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you get started? And how did you know all of

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this was real?

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Okay? It actually started with me when I was very young. Okay,

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And in my book, my book is titled it Doesn't

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Have to Be This Way a spirit Aliant. I start

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up in the first several chapters talking about the experiences

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I had starting from when I was a child, and

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my first major experience with the para normal was a

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period of missing time where I was I we went

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to a park with a bunch of other children. I

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was only like maybe six seven years old, and I

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was standing by a tree and literally the very next

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thing I knew. I was at the other end of

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the park walking backwards and the park was empty.

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WHOA, Now, that's typically a tight in with UFOs and

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et and abductions and things like that.

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Is that is that what happened to you?

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I felt at the time that was what happened. Even

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at my young age, I didn't know what to call them,

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but I do still to this day very much, remember

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very clearly that I loved them and I wanted to

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go with them. I didn't want to be here, and

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I was kind of upset because they made me come back.

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And I also knew that they did something to help me,

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and I don't know in what way. To this day,

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I don't know exactly what they did to help me,

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but I knew that, and I was said that I

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had to come back. And as I'm walking through, I

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heard a lady screaming my name, and as she came

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and found me, she asked me where did I go?

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And I don't know. I was standing by the tree

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and then I was walking through the park. I don't know,

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and of course she didn't accept that at all, and

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when I did try to explain, I just got in

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more trouble. So I just shut up and realized, Okay,

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this isn't something that we can talk about with other people.

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And so a few years after that, I actually had

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the experience that took place where I got the title

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for my book. And so I've been having experiences where

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the Angelic Realm and the Star Nations pretty much my

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entire life. And basically, I've I'm really glad that the

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world is starting to wake up and we're starting to

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realize that we're not alone and all of this. The

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problem that I have is, and I probably shouldn't go

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into this right now, but they're trying to create so

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much fear about it, and that bothers me. Yeah, because

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I'll summarize it this way. All of the star nations

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that are visiting, except probably a few that are working

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with the government. I wouldn't trust those guys, okay, but

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all of the rest of them are from star nations

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that are billions of years older than Okay. There's a

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very basic concept in the universe that humans don't seem

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to think about, and that is when you live a

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life in love and light, and you try to co

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create with the divine out of love, your life is

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beautiful your life is full of love, and you get

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back what you have to experience what you create, so

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you get back that love. The farther away from love

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and light you get, the more painful your life become. Okay,

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so humans on this planet, as far as I'm concerned,

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are not very smart. We keep hitting our thumb with

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the hammer, wondering why it hurts, and we just don't

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ever seem to learn that we're the ones doing it. Well,

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these other nations figured it out a long long time ago,

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So they are not here to going to take us

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over or I mean really, the fear that humans have

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is that they might be like us.

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Yeah, yeah, and you.

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Know they grew up a long time ago. So they

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are our older brothers and sisters, our older cousins, whatever

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you want to call them, and they are here to

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see are have we grown up enough to become members

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of their family? Or are we still going to go

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backwards and hurt ourselves to the point of no return again?

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Right.

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00:29:33.400 --> 00:29:36.160
There's a concept when I took psychology.

462
00:29:35.640 --> 00:29:40.160
One on one called projecting, right, and I feel when

463
00:29:40.200 --> 00:29:46.119
people talk about the fear based type of relationship with

464
00:29:46.440 --> 00:29:49.039
star nations like you call them, it almost seems like

465
00:29:49.160 --> 00:29:51.480
it's what they would do, so that's what they expect

466
00:29:51.519 --> 00:29:54.480
the others to do to them. So they from a

467
00:29:54.519 --> 00:29:58.920
sense of projection, which is unfortunate because they just it

468
00:29:59.039 --> 00:30:02.119
is a video you just went viral with UFOs over

469
00:30:02.160 --> 00:30:06.119
a military base. It's incredibly interested in this stuff. But

470
00:30:06.240 --> 00:30:09.799
the first instinct for the military to say, they're a

471
00:30:09.880 --> 00:30:11.960
danger to us and we need to shoot them down

472
00:30:12.000 --> 00:30:15.680
and figure out why they're here, as opposed to, hey,

473
00:30:15.759 --> 00:30:19.039
let's let's have a chat and see what you learned

474
00:30:19.039 --> 00:30:21.640
from them. That's but what's keeping us behind?

475
00:30:21.680 --> 00:30:26.160
I think yeah, and our very mentality if they were

476
00:30:26.200 --> 00:30:28.359
to land would be to send the military to go

477
00:30:28.440 --> 00:30:31.039
talk to them. And if you're going to send the

478
00:30:31.079 --> 00:30:34.400
military as your emissaries, what does that say to whoever

479
00:30:34.480 --> 00:30:38.359
you're meeting. It's saying that the military runs this planet.

480
00:30:39.200 --> 00:30:42.880
This is a military society, and that's what they can expect.

481
00:30:44.079 --> 00:30:47.400
I think that when the Star Nations, because they know us,

482
00:30:48.240 --> 00:30:52.319
I think that when they actually start making first contact,

483
00:30:52.680 --> 00:30:55.160
it's not going to be around It's not going to

484
00:30:55.200 --> 00:30:57.039
be on the White House lawn. It's not going to

485
00:30:57.119 --> 00:31:00.519
be around the military so much. It's probably going to

486
00:31:00.559 --> 00:31:09.119
be and some some other country where the people are

487
00:31:09.240 --> 00:31:17.519
rural and just peace loving people. Okay, I think that

488
00:31:17.519 --> 00:31:20.680
that there's going to be a host of events and

489
00:31:20.759 --> 00:31:23.119
they're going to have to show themselves they are, and

490
00:31:23.240 --> 00:31:26.279
I wish people would understand that they are showing themselves

491
00:31:26.279 --> 00:31:32.480
in the skies a lot to get people to realize

492
00:31:32.960 --> 00:31:35.640
and get them ready for full disclosure.

493
00:31:36.440 --> 00:31:38.599
We've spoken to a lot of people who actually even

494
00:31:38.640 --> 00:31:41.599
do see five events where they consciously call them to

495
00:31:41.839 --> 00:31:44.680
you in order to make contacts. So I do think

496
00:31:44.720 --> 00:31:47.759
there's a movement growing that there's people out there that

497
00:31:47.839 --> 00:31:51.000
are trying to make contact consciously, and I do believe

498
00:31:51.000 --> 00:31:53.640
that these Star nations are making contact with those that

499
00:31:53.799 --> 00:31:55.519
actually open themselves up to it.

500
00:31:56.000 --> 00:31:57.599
Right. Thing is you always have the people going.

501
00:31:57.640 --> 00:32:00.519
You know, you're opening yourself up to people these coming

502
00:32:00.519 --> 00:32:01.559
and doing experiments on you.

503
00:32:01.599 --> 00:32:05.920
So that's a whole other company. Well, those are the

504
00:32:06.000 --> 00:32:08.839
people again that are projecting, so I might be cautious

505
00:32:08.880 --> 00:32:14.400
about them. Absolutely, absolutely, you have free will.

506
00:32:14.400 --> 00:32:16.240
I want to say this really quick, and this because

507
00:32:16.279 --> 00:32:22.240
this applies to all of spirit. The Creator itself gave

508
00:32:22.319 --> 00:32:28.400
you free will. You have the right to determine if

509
00:32:28.440 --> 00:32:31.720
you will work with just beings of light, or whether

510
00:32:31.759 --> 00:32:34.319
you're going to fling that door open and invite everything in.

511
00:32:35.720 --> 00:32:37.759
I made my choice a long time ago that I

512
00:32:37.799 --> 00:32:41.200
am only going to work consciously and in all ways.

513
00:32:41.319 --> 00:32:44.680
I'm only inviting in the beings of light. Now. I

514
00:32:44.680 --> 00:32:47.079
don't care if they're star nations. I don't care if

515
00:32:47.079 --> 00:32:50.200
they're angels, I don't care if they're ascended masters. I

516
00:32:50.240 --> 00:32:53.599
don't care if they're Elohim lords of light. Okay, as

517
00:32:53.680 --> 00:32:57.000
long as they're working in the love and light. Okay,

518
00:32:57.480 --> 00:32:59.519
those are the ones that I invite into my life,

519
00:33:00.079 --> 00:33:03.839
and so we don't have to worry about really the

520
00:33:03.960 --> 00:33:10.000
dark side. What Spirit wants is they're really kind of

521
00:33:10.039 --> 00:33:14.559
tired of us being on our knees begging for help. Okay,

522
00:33:16.359 --> 00:33:20.799
that only goes so far. This is a material world

523
00:33:20.839 --> 00:33:27.240
that requires action in order to get results. So what

524
00:33:27.279 --> 00:33:30.319
they would like is for each individual to create their

525
00:33:30.319 --> 00:33:34.799
own connection to the divine And when everybody does that

526
00:33:35.000 --> 00:33:38.319
in their own way, we're not creating a new cult

527
00:33:38.440 --> 00:33:42.119
or a new religion or anything like that. Everybody around

528
00:33:42.160 --> 00:33:44.519
the world do it your own way, create that connection

529
00:33:44.599 --> 00:33:48.039
with Spirit. Can you imagine the synchronicity that's going to

530
00:33:48.079 --> 00:33:51.839
take place on this planet when people actually start following

531
00:33:51.880 --> 00:33:55.759
their guidance from Spirit, the people that can line up

532
00:33:55.759 --> 00:33:58.640
and meet each other and the great things that they

533
00:33:58.680 --> 00:34:03.160
can co create the way, this is how we will

534
00:34:03.279 --> 00:34:07.359
change our world with the guidance of Spirit working with

535
00:34:07.480 --> 00:34:11.280
them in our lives on a daily basis. And it's

536
00:34:11.400 --> 00:34:14.440
the only way that I know that it can happen peacefully,

537
00:34:14.559 --> 00:34:16.719
which is of course what we want.

538
00:34:17.039 --> 00:34:19.559
You just mentioned so many things that are so perfectly

539
00:34:19.599 --> 00:34:22.079
aligned with Karen and I in this show, because we

540
00:34:22.119 --> 00:34:24.880
talk a lot about the fact that growth happens at

541
00:34:24.920 --> 00:34:27.320
the edge of your comfort zone. We talk about only

542
00:34:27.360 --> 00:34:31.039
inviting light. Karen and I don't accept any dark. Our

543
00:34:31.079 --> 00:34:34.119
topics are all meant to help enlighten and raise the

544
00:34:34.199 --> 00:34:36.400
vibrations of the planet rather than bring it down. I

545
00:34:36.480 --> 00:34:39.159
mean everything that you talked about, even including the last

546
00:34:39.159 --> 00:34:43.000
bit where there's so many, many, many, many paths, but

547
00:34:43.119 --> 00:34:46.400
one truth and the importance is to accept that you

548
00:34:46.440 --> 00:34:49.199
are on your own personal path. Whatever works for you

549
00:34:49.599 --> 00:34:51.639
is perfect for you. It doesn't mean it's going to

550
00:34:51.639 --> 00:34:55.079
be perfect for the person next to you. And that's

551
00:34:55.119 --> 00:34:57.440
I think where we are having a disconnect when everyone's

552
00:34:57.480 --> 00:34:59.400
yelling no, no, that's the wrong way.

553
00:35:00.039 --> 00:35:01.039
Says it's wrong way.

554
00:35:01.559 --> 00:35:04.920
So rather than shut down, we want to promote the

555
00:35:04.960 --> 00:35:07.960
fact that, hey, this is a personal experience.

556
00:35:08.000 --> 00:35:09.920
We're all here to experience our.

557
00:35:09.800 --> 00:35:13.079
Own divinity in our own way, and that's the only

558
00:35:13.119 --> 00:35:15.920
way forward. Now you take it even a step further

559
00:35:15.960 --> 00:35:19.360
where you say that only by doing that will we

560
00:35:19.480 --> 00:35:23.400
find finally a way to change this world for the better.

561
00:35:23.800 --> 00:35:25.400
And they ask the question all the time to people,

562
00:35:25.480 --> 00:35:28.599
how can one person make that drastic of a change

563
00:35:28.840 --> 00:35:32.000
when the environment is so hostile, when everybody is so

564
00:35:32.239 --> 00:35:37.079
divisive with each other. So I think I understand how,

565
00:35:37.400 --> 00:35:39.079
But can you go further into.

566
00:35:39.159 --> 00:35:42.119
That, how do we change the world when I'm just

567
00:35:42.199 --> 00:35:42.800
one person?

568
00:35:43.440 --> 00:35:45.719
Yes, yes, that you said, it's so much better to me.

569
00:35:46.039 --> 00:35:48.800
Well from my point of view, and this is what

570
00:35:48.960 --> 00:35:51.519
happened with me. I don't even live in the same

571
00:35:51.559 --> 00:35:57.079
world I used to. Okay, it's not in any way

572
00:35:57.119 --> 00:36:03.480
the way it was. When you heal your life, that

573
00:36:03.599 --> 00:36:06.760
is the first step, because we've all done some damage

574
00:36:06.760 --> 00:36:11.519
to ourselves. The first step is inviting spirit into your life,

575
00:36:11.719 --> 00:36:16.800
paying attention, and then heal your life and work on yourself,

576
00:36:17.079 --> 00:36:20.000
work on raising your own love and life. Think about

577
00:36:20.039 --> 00:36:22.920
the things that you are grateful for, and let that

578
00:36:23.280 --> 00:36:27.960
be the stepping stone to feeling love and do this

579
00:36:29.000 --> 00:36:32.000
within yourself. When you do that, your family's going to

580
00:36:32.079 --> 00:36:35.119
notice a difference in you, and they're going to go, hey,

581
00:36:35.239 --> 00:36:37.639
what's going on. I noticed that there's a lot of

582
00:36:37.840 --> 00:36:42.280
good things going on, Okay, And you can help your

583
00:36:42.360 --> 00:36:49.519
family to be in a lighter environment. Most importantly, I

584
00:36:49.639 --> 00:36:54.760
believe that we must start helping our children and teaching

585
00:36:54.800 --> 00:36:59.039
our children and our grandchildren how to deal with emotions

586
00:36:59.079 --> 00:37:03.880
in a healthier way, because right now, we have generation

587
00:37:04.000 --> 00:37:08.199
after generation going into emotional crises when they're in their

588
00:37:08.239 --> 00:37:11.800
thirties because they were never taught how to deal with

589
00:37:11.840 --> 00:37:16.079
their emotions in the healthy way. And that is incredibly

590
00:37:16.119 --> 00:37:21.159
important on this planet. Okay, So we start with ourselves,

591
00:37:21.239 --> 00:37:24.719
Then we start with our family, We start with our relations, Okay.

592
00:37:25.039 --> 00:37:28.159
Then we start reaching out into our communities, and we

593
00:37:28.239 --> 00:37:32.840
start doing things by from our own self and work outwards.

594
00:37:33.360 --> 00:37:35.599
And if we have more and more people that just

595
00:37:35.760 --> 00:37:40.199
do that alone, you will see tremendous changes coming to

596
00:37:40.280 --> 00:37:43.880
the consciousness of this planet. Because there is the hundredth

597
00:37:43.920 --> 00:37:50.119
monkey effects and so we I'd like to get billions

598
00:37:50.159 --> 00:37:53.480
doing it, you know, but that's kind of maybe a

599
00:37:53.480 --> 00:37:56.960
lofty goal. But you know, if you don't shoot for it,

600
00:37:57.000 --> 00:38:03.039
you'll never get there. So so does that kind of

601
00:38:03.320 --> 00:38:04.199
answer your question?

602
00:38:04.559 --> 00:38:05.039
It does?

603
00:38:05.079 --> 00:38:06.559
But then what do you see to people that say

604
00:38:06.599 --> 00:38:08.960
it's too late, it's too late for reach a tipping

605
00:38:08.960 --> 00:38:12.840
point to make a change before this world expires.

606
00:38:12.440 --> 00:38:18.039
Well, Isaiah, they don't understand spirit very well. That Okay,

607
00:38:19.440 --> 00:38:23.719
it's never too late. As long as you're breathing air. Okay,

608
00:38:24.280 --> 00:38:27.639
don't ever give up. Don't ever stop. That is rule

609
00:38:27.719 --> 00:38:33.559
number one. You just never quit, okay. And there might

610
00:38:33.599 --> 00:38:37.599
be a lot of people that go home before this

611
00:38:37.760 --> 00:38:39.840
all wraps up. I mean, this is not going to

612
00:38:39.880 --> 00:38:44.960
happen in the blink of an eye, okay, But we

613
00:38:45.079 --> 00:38:50.280
need to start actually doing the work and having conversations

614
00:38:50.360 --> 00:38:54.679
about how can we change our systems, How can we

615
00:38:54.800 --> 00:38:58.800
change our court system, how can we change our education system,

616
00:38:58.840 --> 00:39:01.519
how can we change our monetary system? How can we

617
00:39:01.559 --> 00:39:10.039
do these things? Because a truly mature, spiritual civilization is

618
00:39:10.159 --> 00:39:13.639
one that works for the highest good of all concerned.

619
00:39:15.280 --> 00:39:18.159
And I don't believe that you can find a single

620
00:39:18.360 --> 00:39:25.280
country on this planet where their departments and their government organizations. However,

621
00:39:25.320 --> 00:39:28.480
they are structured where they actually work for the highest

622
00:39:28.480 --> 00:39:32.599
good of all the people. They actually work for the

623
00:39:32.719 --> 00:39:35.960
very few. And we need to grow up and start

624
00:39:36.000 --> 00:39:39.480
taking care of each other, because if we actually paid

625
00:39:39.519 --> 00:39:42.199
attention to what's in the highest good of all concerned,

626
00:39:43.000 --> 00:39:46.679
there would be no need for war. There would need.

627
00:39:47.039 --> 00:39:50.920
I mean, we have enough. We can feed everybody on

628
00:39:50.920 --> 00:39:54.559
this planet right now. We just have to actually decide

629
00:39:54.599 --> 00:39:57.880
that we want to do that, and we need to

630
00:39:57.920 --> 00:40:02.239
start doing the things that we see we want. Humans

631
00:40:02.239 --> 00:40:05.119
are really good about saying, well, I like peace. I

632
00:40:05.159 --> 00:40:07.519
want peace, but I think I'll go bomb that country

633
00:40:07.559 --> 00:40:13.000
so I can have pea. That's the wrong, you know.

634
00:40:13.039 --> 00:40:15.360
That's because there's a reason why they're bombing that country,

635
00:40:15.400 --> 00:40:17.239
because there's something in that country that they want, right.

636
00:40:17.880 --> 00:40:21.400
Piece, it's a piece of yeah, exactly.

637
00:40:21.559 --> 00:40:22.960
So really what you get into is the fact that

638
00:40:22.960 --> 00:40:25.519
it's really about greed. We have to overcome our greed

639
00:40:25.519 --> 00:40:28.159
in order to be able to help each other exactly.

640
00:40:28.519 --> 00:40:32.719
And will also my interpretation or answer of your question

641
00:40:32.760 --> 00:40:34.199
when you're saying, what about, what would you say to

642
00:40:34.199 --> 00:40:37.239
the people who say it's too late? You know what? So,

643
00:40:38.079 --> 00:40:39.639
first of all, like you said, it's never too late

644
00:40:39.639 --> 00:40:42.440
if you're still breathing. But if you're making all of

645
00:40:42.480 --> 00:40:46.920
these changes, at least your world is going to be better. So,

646
00:40:47.480 --> 00:40:49.320
you know what, maybe it's a lofty goal to think

647
00:40:49.599 --> 00:40:52.199
one person is going to change the entire world. Maybe

648
00:40:52.280 --> 00:40:54.840
it's not, But you can change your world and that's

649
00:40:54.840 --> 00:40:56.559
just going to be a much better place to live.

650
00:40:56.719 --> 00:40:59.239
Yeah, for sure. Maybe I'll just take it that we

651
00:40:59.639 --> 00:41:02.400
will all just skip over this world and into a

652
00:41:02.679 --> 00:41:05.880
more peaceful, loving world just by changing who we are.

653
00:41:06.280 --> 00:41:06.880
I'll go with that.

654
00:41:07.159 --> 00:41:08.239
Yeah.

655
00:41:07.559 --> 00:41:10.719
Well, I absolutely agree with all of that, but I

656
00:41:10.760 --> 00:41:15.719
can't explain exactly how it's done. I don't claim to

657
00:41:15.760 --> 00:41:17.639
have all the answers, Marty.

658
00:41:17.760 --> 00:41:19.320
That's what we got you on the show. You said

659
00:41:19.320 --> 00:41:19.960
you're the answers.

660
00:41:20.360 --> 00:41:23.360
There is something that you can answer, I'm hoping. Okay,

661
00:41:23.800 --> 00:41:26.960
how to open up that connection to the angelic beings?

662
00:41:27.519 --> 00:41:34.519
Yeah, okay, First and foremost, you have to really decide

663
00:41:34.519 --> 00:41:38.639
that that is what you want within your heart and soul. Okay,

664
00:41:40.480 --> 00:41:45.079
we can never conspirit. Okay, it's impossible. You just can't

665
00:41:45.079 --> 00:41:48.800
do it. So when you truly have that desire in

666
00:41:48.840 --> 00:41:53.920
your heart and soul, and you sincerely from your heart.

667
00:41:54.360 --> 00:41:57.760
Ask them to come into your life. I guarantee you

668
00:41:57.800 --> 00:42:02.079
they hear that. There's no way they cannot. They are

669
00:42:02.199 --> 00:42:05.840
always with you. Your higher self is always with you.

670
00:42:06.039 --> 00:42:09.880
It is impossible for it to not hear you. Okay.

671
00:42:10.440 --> 00:42:19.079
And so we are individualized awarenesses floating about in a

672
00:42:19.239 --> 00:42:25.679
sea of living conscious energy with trillions of other individualized

673
00:42:26.239 --> 00:42:31.400
awarenesses of all sizes, shapes, and forms. Okay, So the

674
00:42:31.440 --> 00:42:36.159
whole thing is consciousness. You cannot have a thought and

675
00:42:36.239 --> 00:42:39.840
not have the universe hear it. You cannot, okay. So

676
00:42:40.000 --> 00:42:45.360
it's it is all one. But it would be pretty

677
00:42:45.400 --> 00:42:49.679
boring to just be one all the time. That's why

678
00:42:49.719 --> 00:42:51.800
the creator said, hey, I think I want to play

679
00:42:51.800 --> 00:42:57.880
with this, and so he created countless individualized awarenesses and said,

680
00:42:58.320 --> 00:43:02.119
go play, Go co create with me, but remember to

681
00:43:02.159 --> 00:43:05.760
co create with love, because you must experience what you create,

682
00:43:06.840 --> 00:43:11.239
and that's what humans forgot, right, So when we go

683
00:43:11.360 --> 00:43:12.719
back to that will be better off.

684
00:43:13.679 --> 00:43:16.480
It makes perfect sense. You have to not have fear.

685
00:43:16.559 --> 00:43:19.679
You have to really truly want that connection and not

686
00:43:19.800 --> 00:43:22.599
be afraid of the connection or how that connection is

687
00:43:22.639 --> 00:43:24.320
going to make you look in front of others.

688
00:43:24.519 --> 00:43:26.920
I've been working with them for so long that fear

689
00:43:27.000 --> 00:43:32.119
doesn't even enter into my thoughts with them. Okay, so

690
00:43:34.199 --> 00:43:37.000
it didn't. But that's a very valid point, and I'm

691
00:43:37.000 --> 00:43:40.239
glad you brought it up because that could be a

692
00:43:40.519 --> 00:43:44.480
very real feeling for millions, if not billions, of people.

693
00:43:47.280 --> 00:43:51.559
All I can tell you is that, and I think

694
00:43:51.599 --> 00:43:55.159
this will help answer it. But it might not sound

695
00:43:55.239 --> 00:44:01.000
like it at first. Okay. So when spirit I had

696
00:44:01.039 --> 00:44:04.840
an act of divine intervention in my life, okay, and

697
00:44:04.920 --> 00:44:10.239
this was what really kicked off me healing my life

698
00:44:10.800 --> 00:44:14.239
and going in a totally different direction than what I

699
00:44:14.440 --> 00:44:21.519
was Okay. And they were very unhappy with me. Okay.

700
00:44:21.880 --> 00:44:27.440
They were literally standing in my bedroom at the foot

701
00:44:27.480 --> 00:44:29.320
of my bed and at the side of my bed,

702
00:44:30.519 --> 00:44:35.679
and they were not happy. Okay. They had no reason

703
00:44:35.760 --> 00:44:41.840
to be happy because I was literally trying to commit suicide,

704
00:44:42.440 --> 00:44:45.880
oh a very slow way, but I was intentionally doing

705
00:44:45.960 --> 00:44:50.159
it because I thought there was no hope. Okay. This

706
00:44:50.320 --> 00:44:53.960
was a long, long famodom and they were very disappointed

707
00:44:54.039 --> 00:44:56.239
with what I was doing, and they had every right

708
00:44:56.320 --> 00:45:01.440
to be. But you know, these beings were so they

709
00:45:01.440 --> 00:45:06.800
were so big that I should have been terrified, but

710
00:45:06.920 --> 00:45:14.800
the love was so dead fear could not exist in

711
00:45:14.840 --> 00:45:20.119
their presence. It was impossible for me to fear them.

712
00:45:20.920 --> 00:45:25.719
And then my very being started to remember them and

713
00:45:26.079 --> 00:45:30.079
it became obvious, Oh my god, you guys are my angels.

714
00:45:30.480 --> 00:45:34.440
I know you, and oh, this is what home feels like.

715
00:45:34.960 --> 00:45:37.960
We don't ever get to fill this love here, okay,

716
00:45:38.880 --> 00:45:44.320
And I've experienced that. So that's what I feel every

717
00:45:44.360 --> 00:45:46.920
time I think of them. I know that that's the

718
00:45:46.960 --> 00:45:50.679
place they come from. And if just telling that story

719
00:45:50.800 --> 00:45:54.360
can help people to understand that when we say they

720
00:45:54.400 --> 00:45:57.920
are beings of love and light, that is literally the

721
00:45:58.079 --> 00:46:01.960
environment that they live in. That is the makeup of

722
00:46:03.480 --> 00:46:09.639
all that is. So when you go home, literally fear

723
00:46:09.679 --> 00:46:14.719
cannot exist there. Fear is a human perception of lack,

724
00:46:15.639 --> 00:46:21.400
that you lack something, you lack control, you lack whatever. Okay,

725
00:46:21.440 --> 00:46:25.519
you maybe lack finances, you're out of food, whatever, okay,

726
00:46:25.800 --> 00:46:34.599
But it's always based in some perception of lack, and honestly,

727
00:46:35.800 --> 00:46:39.320
being one with all that is, it's impossible for you

728
00:46:39.360 --> 00:46:42.760
to lack anything because you're part of the Creator. You're

729
00:46:42.800 --> 00:46:46.239
part of the One, right, Okay, So these other beings

730
00:46:46.880 --> 00:46:49.519
are part of the Creator and part of the One

731
00:46:49.559 --> 00:46:52.960
as well. And they are here to embrace you, to

732
00:46:53.039 --> 00:46:57.039
cradle you in their arms, to inspire you, to make

733
00:46:57.079 --> 00:46:59.880
you laugh. I don't have.

734
00:47:01.559 --> 00:47:07.639
It's not fear, it's doubt. Doubt, it's not afraid of anything.

735
00:47:07.960 --> 00:47:08.559
Is this real?

736
00:47:09.000 --> 00:47:14.079
Ah? Well, can I make a minor disagreement there? Absolutely,

737
00:47:14.199 --> 00:47:18.840
doubt is the most insidious form of fear that there is.

738
00:47:19.679 --> 00:47:27.119
Touchdown why because it is so subtle. It is so

739
00:47:27.159 --> 00:47:32.079
subtle that you don't recognize it as a fear, but

740
00:47:32.199 --> 00:47:35.760
it is. There's only really two emotions. There's love and fear,

741
00:47:35.840 --> 00:47:39.599
and everything else falls into one of these two categories,

742
00:47:40.960 --> 00:47:46.440
and doubt is the most insidious form of fear because

743
00:47:46.639 --> 00:47:50.960
it is it's a way that fear works into your

744
00:47:51.280 --> 00:47:54.320
trying to work with your logical brain and though well

745
00:47:54.400 --> 00:47:59.719
I'm not sure about that, okay, And it causes your

746
00:47:59.800 --> 00:48:03.400
human brain, which thinks it knows everything and doesn't actually

747
00:48:03.440 --> 00:48:08.199
know squad okay, But all of our own the thoughts

748
00:48:08.239 --> 00:48:11.239
get in there and start mixing around, and we play

749
00:48:11.559 --> 00:48:16.639
mental games with ourselves. And that's that's the human part,

750
00:48:16.719 --> 00:48:21.039
and it's perfectly normal, Okay, we just have to recognize

751
00:48:21.079 --> 00:48:28.280
that that's what's going on. But when you start having

752
00:48:28.360 --> 00:48:34.400
your own experiences with the divine. Nobody can ever take

753
00:48:34.400 --> 00:48:37.800
that away from you. And that's what my goal is

754
00:48:37.800 --> 00:48:45.239
is to help people have that. So have you ever

755
00:48:45.280 --> 00:48:49.880
heard the terms the phrase fake it till you make it? Oh?

756
00:48:49.960 --> 00:48:52.159
Yeah, that's might's been my model my entire life.

757
00:48:52.559 --> 00:48:58.440
Okay, well right now, I didn't like that when I

758
00:48:58.440 --> 00:49:03.880
first heard it, I thought, well, now that's ridiculous. But

759
00:49:05.360 --> 00:49:09.760
sometimes you have to go on faith, okay. And faith

760
00:49:09.920 --> 00:49:13.159
was another thing I had a hard time with, okay,

761
00:49:13.599 --> 00:49:16.639
because what do you mean, I just got to believe something? Well,

762
00:49:16.880 --> 00:49:22.960
have you ever used your imagination? Okay? And I asked

763
00:49:22.960 --> 00:49:26.840
this for a reason, and that is because being the

764
00:49:26.840 --> 00:49:31.079
eternal being of light, that you are wandering around in

765
00:49:31.199 --> 00:49:36.159
a universe of consciousness, it is your imagination. That is

766
00:49:36.199 --> 00:49:43.199
the very beginning of you controlling energy and you interacting

767
00:49:43.559 --> 00:49:48.880
with this universal consciousness. You have to start using your imagination.

768
00:49:49.360 --> 00:49:52.079
That is the very beginning of opening your third eye,

769
00:49:52.119 --> 00:49:55.519
that is the very beginning of having these visual experiences.

770
00:49:55.960 --> 00:50:01.280
Is you have to practice using that imagination until one

771
00:50:01.360 --> 00:50:04.760
day your third eye opens up and you go, wow,

772
00:50:05.599 --> 00:50:09.079
that wasn't my imagination. That was cool? Okay, I saw that,

773
00:50:09.480 --> 00:50:14.199
and they thought to me, Okay, and you're you will

774
00:50:14.239 --> 00:50:19.480
have these experiences, but you have to trust and take

775
00:50:19.519 --> 00:50:26.519
those steps and be doggedly persistent until it happens. And

776
00:50:27.000 --> 00:50:31.440
I think that everybody actually has a lot of interactions

777
00:50:31.480 --> 00:50:35.119
with spirit, they just don't recognize them as such.

778
00:50:35.760 --> 00:50:37.760
That we are woefully out of time and that we'd

779
00:50:37.800 --> 00:50:41.800
be well's I know, I know it's that is flown by,

780
00:50:41.880 --> 00:50:43.639
but i'd be remiss of it and talk to you

781
00:50:43.679 --> 00:50:44.519
about your book.

782
00:50:45.079 --> 00:50:48.039
Yeah, it doesn't have to be this way. A Spirit

783
00:50:48.079 --> 00:50:55.079
Alliance and that is on Amazon and it is worldwide,

784
00:50:55.480 --> 00:50:57.639
so no matter where you're at, you can order that

785
00:50:57.719 --> 00:50:58.519
through Amazon.

786
00:50:58.840 --> 00:51:00.639
And we've touched on it a little little bit about

787
00:51:00.840 --> 00:51:04.199
the topic you mentioned that you start with your early experiences.

788
00:51:04.239 --> 00:51:05.960
You do have a chapter on star nations and things

789
00:51:05.960 --> 00:51:09.800
like that, But who's the perfect person for that book.

790
00:51:09.840 --> 00:51:12.079
Who's going to resonate the strongest with that book?

791
00:51:12.639 --> 00:51:16.199
Anybody that is on the spiritual path that wants to

792
00:51:16.320 --> 00:51:18.719
learn how to work with spirit and how to work

793
00:51:18.760 --> 00:51:24.880
with energy. Okay. I put a lot of techniques and

794
00:51:25.119 --> 00:51:27.920
things like that in there so that people can actually

795
00:51:28.519 --> 00:51:32.440
start working with energy and start working with spirit and

796
00:51:32.480 --> 00:51:37.519
start understanding how multidimensionality works, and what are the universal

797
00:51:37.599 --> 00:51:41.000
laws of the universe and all of these different things

798
00:51:41.039 --> 00:51:44.239
so that you can actually by the time you're done,

799
00:51:44.360 --> 00:51:49.719
my goal was to help you have a vision of

800
00:51:49.760 --> 00:51:54.960
the unity consciousness of the universe and also see maybe

801
00:51:55.000 --> 00:51:58.239
some suggestions as to what we can do to heal

802
00:51:58.280 --> 00:52:02.760
our society ourselves and take this in the direction that

803
00:52:02.800 --> 00:52:07.800
we want to go. So if anybody is interested in

804
00:52:07.880 --> 00:52:11.119
any of that, then I believe this book will be

805
00:52:11.360 --> 00:52:11.679
for you.

806
00:52:12.000 --> 00:52:13.039
That sounds amazing.

807
00:52:13.280 --> 00:52:15.000
I know I'm going to good run out and get

808
00:52:15.000 --> 00:52:18.079
it absolutely soon as we finished this interview, Marty, we

809
00:52:18.199 --> 00:52:21.320
touched on so many different things. I feel like we

810
00:52:21.360 --> 00:52:23.320
need to get you back. But we touched on five

811
00:52:23.400 --> 00:52:25.639
or six different things. Each one of them could have

812
00:52:25.679 --> 00:52:29.159
been own its entire episode. So I think we have

813
00:52:29.199 --> 00:52:31.400
to have you come back and talk about specific.

814
00:52:31.400 --> 00:52:33.280
I would be absolutely honored to do that.

815
00:52:33.559 --> 00:52:36.559
All right, We're going to add links to ways for

816
00:52:36.599 --> 00:52:38.880
you to contact you on our show notes. We'll also

817
00:52:38.960 --> 00:52:41.639
add a direct link to your book on our show notes.

818
00:52:41.679 --> 00:52:42.960
So all you need to do is go to Skeptic

819
00:52:42.960 --> 00:52:45.760
metaposition dot com, go to his episode page, and you

820
00:52:45.800 --> 00:52:48.199
will see those links directly laid in there, it'll be

821
00:52:48.199 --> 00:52:50.039
super easy for you to get that book and to

822
00:52:50.039 --> 00:52:53.519
connect with Marty. So Marty, thank you so much for

823
00:52:53.599 --> 00:52:57.280
your time, your expertise, for your inspiration. Thank you for

824
00:52:57.360 --> 00:52:59.480
waking up early and coming and chatting with us today.

825
00:53:00.079 --> 00:53:02.119
It was my pleasure. Thank you for having me.

826
00:53:02.920 --> 00:53:04.360
And a huge thank you to you.

827
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831
00:53:16.679 --> 00:53:19.000
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