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consciousness of the world. That when
you are starting to do spirit baby communication,

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it's really difficult to start with connecting
with your own babies in a really

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deep way because there's emotional there's an
emotional tie, intense emotion to your babies,

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and so when there's heightened emotion,
the access to intuition isn't as strong.

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Intuition is not emotional at all,
it just feels like fact. And

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so when you are highly emotional,
it's pretty difficult to connect with the other

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side. Welcome to the Reluctant Medium, where we cover the gamut of out

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their conversations with an open mind and
a curious heart. We want to talk

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about it all, from psychic phenomenon
and energy medicine, to beings from other

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star systems and out of body experiences. You'll find a great balance between grounded

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science, back topics, and others
that science hasn't quite caught up to yet.

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I'm your host, doctor Maria Rothenberger, a psychotherapist by trade and a

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reluctant spirit baby communicator. And hey, even though I'm a medium, I'm

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not buying everything folks are selling.
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Metaphysician, your new metaphysical obsession. Hey

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everyone, doctor Maria here, Welcome
to the Reluctant Medium podcast. It's been

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a bit since I've done a solo
cast for you, but here I am,

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and for the next several weeks it'll
just be you and I because we

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are going to be talking about spirit
baby stuff, which is my specialty.

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I have gotten to interview some beautiful
souls recently and they just keep coming with

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topics that I have no expertise in, and I just can't wait to dig

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more and more and more into these
esoteric topics like galactic things and star seeds

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and spirit baby star seeds and the
future of wellness and it's crazy energy medicine,

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Like it's amazing the stuff that's out
there to learn, and so I've

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been lucky enough to interview a lot
of folks. Already more are on the

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horizon, but I thought for now, I'm going to take a quick break

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from that over the next few weeks
and teach you about some tools for communicating

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with the spirit baby realm. This
is such a topic near and dear to

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my heart because I find that it
is my pleasure and my duty to teach

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people to do what I do,
because I feel like we are all psychic

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to a degree or just educated out
of it. And you might not be

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like the equivalent of Mozart, like
a prodigy psychic medium like I'm not,

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but you know, we all have
varying degrees of psychic awareness and may as

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well learn some tools to begin doing
this now, whether you would like to

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communicate with your own spirit babies or
the babies of others, the tools are

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the same that I'm going to be
talking about. So quickly, though,

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let's check in with what's happening with
the reluctant medium. I've not done that

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in so long, Oh my gosh, checking in with you if you haven't

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already. I still have the Miracles
happen community. That's from my previous podcast,

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the Miracles Happen Fertility Podcast. We
talk heavily about spiritual stuff, a

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lot of spirit baby realm stuff.
So head on over to Miracles Happen community

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dot com or download the Mighty Networks
app and search for the Miracles Happen Community

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and join. It's free, free, yep, free, go join.

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We're having fantastic conversations over there.
And every month, the first Friday of

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every month we have a live Q
and a alive meet and great and I

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do mini readings during that meetup too, so and it's free, my God,

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Like what's free in this world anymore? Right? Come on, come

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on and join us. That's still
happening the Reluctant Medium. I still have

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lots of interviewees on tap for you. I am curious what you would like

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to know about. Email me please
at info at doctor Maria Rothenburger dot com

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or Maria at the Reluctant Medium dot
us. I would love to hear from

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you. I would love your suggestions, topics you're curious about, praise,

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feedback, thumbs down, thumbs up, whatever you want to tell me,

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I'm open to hearing it. I
love it all. Thank you. In

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advance. All right, So today
we're going to start a series on spirit

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baby communication, and I want to
address first the fears that people have usually

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around first learning these skills. And
I understand it. I understand you're opening

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yourself up to a completely different world, which can be disconcerting at times.

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Right, So let's talk about that. The very biggest concern that I get

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from people is what if I open
up to the other side and I'm met

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with some crazy evil thing? What
do I do? Okay, there are

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two things I want to say about
this, and the very first thing is

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before doing any kind of work with
spiritual stuff, you always want to protect

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yourself. So you're going to create
a ceremony of sorts, a meditation,

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a practice of some kind to protect
yourself. I personally use crystals, and

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I communicate with my guides and angels, and I visualize a dome of light

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protecting me and my space, my
loved ones, my animals because they work

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with me too, and that is
usually the trick for me. I will

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be talking about crystals and things like
this in the future in this series,

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so we'll be talking more about that. But there needs to be some kind

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of practice in advance of your work. That is protective. You must,

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must, must practice. Even if
you get here's one crystal, we can

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start with a selenite wand or even
a selenite stick that purifies the energy around

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you. Just move it through your
aura and that will at least cleanse your

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aura and get the get your energy
clear. But I'd like to protect my

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space as well, so I would
recommend saging, using burning sage or rosemary

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or some other kind of cleansing herb
and burning that or you know you're going

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to light it on fire and then
blow it out so that it smokes and

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smoke out the room, open the
windows and let any stagnant energy out of

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your space. That helps cleanse the
energy in the room too. So you

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always always always want to start with
that, right, You're always protecting yourself

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first. The second thing is that
when or if you are met with a

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nefarious spirit, a soul that is
not so good, you will be able

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to do the same thing. Call
in your spirit guides your angels use some

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crystals, and that energy has no
choice but to leave. They have no

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choice but to depart. Now,
you could also be connecting with somebody who

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has a connecting with a person who's
a life and they have some negative energy

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around them, you might be connecting
with that, and so you help them

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cleanse as well with their permission.
Always. I actually was in a spiritual

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group once where a psychic picked up
on a negative energy from somebody, and

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the woman actually liked this energy.
She had a great time with that energy,

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and so she would not give permission
for this energy to be expunged from

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the premises. Right, So you
always, always always want to ask permission

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of the other person. Okay,
when you do work like that, but

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with permission, you can also call
in your angels, your guides, their

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angels and their guides to help this
energy move along. Now, I don't

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like the the I don't like to
match energy for energy. I like to

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soften because love beats fear every single
time. So you don't want to say

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kick them out or make them leave, or you're not doing that. You're

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just creating a space where they just
can't exist. Well, so it's like

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forcing a human to be in water
without breathing apparatus. It's just not you

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can't do it. You need air, you need to breathe. And so

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when you have an energy that a
nefarious spirit cannot exist in. They have

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no choice. They must go,
and so you're letting them know I'm going

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to be doing this and you need
to go, and they will. They

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have no choice. So I'll explain
this happened to me one time. It

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has not happened again because I have
not made the same mistake. You're welcome.

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I'm telling you about my mistakes so
that you can learn. Every single

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time I make a mistake, I'll
tell you about it. So I prepping

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for a spirit baby session, and
usually I don't know a day or so

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in advance, I will start connecting
with somebody's spirit baby that I'll be meeting.

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And this didn't happen this time.
But I was prepping about five minutes

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before the session was to start.
I had run out of time and I

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could not do my normal protecting ritual, and instead I just reached out and

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I was looking to connect with the
spirit baby realm. And I'm used to

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connecting with the spirit baby realm.
It's all love, all of it.

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So in pops this entity and he
looks like a baby, totally looks like

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a baby, and I started asking
him questions, Oh, are you this

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upcoming clients baby blah blah blah blah. And the way that he's responding.

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Because I'm clairvoyant, I can see. I could see the expression in his

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eyes and on his face, and
he was almost answering with like a sneer,

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like I'm pulling the wolf over this
one's eyes. Ha ha. It

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felt like that, and I went, wait a minute, You're not a

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baby, and he says, oh, yes I am, and I'm like,

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oh no, you're not. And
I set about right away protecting my

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energy my space. I saged my
whole room, I saged my animals,

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I broke out the crystals, and
I invited that soul to leave just before

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the session was to start. This
will happened to a matter of minutes.

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Just before that session was to start, I received an email from that client

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that something terrible had happened and she
had to cancel last minute. Now I

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don't know what the thing was,
but clearly there was some negative energy around

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her, and that energy had come
into my space. And that has never

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happened again because now I always make
time to protect. That is a lesson

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learned on my part, and I
hope that you take that lesson to heart

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as well. Always always, always
protect yourself and your space. Now,

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what happens if, for whatever reason, a soul does pop in. Who's

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a nefarious soul? You didn't invite
them, You protect your space, You

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did all the things, and yet
they still manage to break through. Not

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likely, but okay, rare things
happen. Right, You're going to do

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exactly what I did. You're going
to reset the protection in your space.

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And sorry, my dog is sneezing
right now. You can probably hear him.

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That's dexter. You will. You
can save your space or use some

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kind of cleansing herb Rosemary is really
good and crystal, you know, use

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crystals to cleanse your space, meditate, calling your angels, and you can

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break out, break out all the
things that we'll be talking about. And

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that soul has no choice but to
leave because it's like a human trying to

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breathe underwater without any breathing apparatus.
It's not possible. They have to go.

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So no matter what, protect,
protect, protect, So that is

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the biggest concern that people have around
connecting with the other side. I'm happy

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to hear your other concerns and answer
them on future podcast episodes. Too.

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Please email me Maria at the Reluctant
Medium dot us and I will answer them

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for you in a future podcast episode, hopefully in this series for you.

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All right, so let's talk about
why why would you want to connect with

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the spirit baby realm. Why.
Well, the obvious answer is to connect

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with your own babies. But I
will tell you that when you are starting

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to do spirit baby community, it's
really difficult to start with connecting with your

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own babies in a really deep way
because there's emotional there's an emotional tie,

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intense emotion to your babies, and
so when there's heightened emotion, the access

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to intuition isn't a strong intuition is
not emotional at all. There it just

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feels like fact. And so when
you are highly emotional, it's pretty difficult

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to connect with the other side.
I actually encourage folks to consider reading for

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somebody else first and just playing around
and seeing what it's like, what it

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feels like, what their responses are. Did you get it right, did

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you get it wrong, did you
get it half right? You know,

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like really making this a playful exercise, and it's really hard to be playful

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when you're trying to connect with your
own spirit baby. But why Well,

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to connect with the other side in
general offers some kind of hope for their

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being life beyond this life, beyond
this plane. But connect but to connect

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with spirit babies specifically, you know, we're talking about hope that these babies

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are going to come earth side,
which is difficult for folks who are especially

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folks who are having a hard time
conceiving. But you know, even for

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folks who are not sure they want
to be a parent someday, this is

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a great way to get confirmation or
to get information from the other side as

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to who's there and what do I
need to prepare for and should I be

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preparing or is it okay if I
choose not to have kids. What about

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the person who had an abortion and
feels concerned or worried about that soul and

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what happened and are they okay?
And some folks are they know that that

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was the right decision for them,
and other folks don't, or they worry

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that it wasn't the right decision,
And so there are questions to be had,

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and there's a lot of comfort when
you're able to connect with the other

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side in this way. So it
really is just like going to a therapy

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session. You know, you're connecting
with another being to help process some of

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the things that you would like to
process. It's wonderful. There are a

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lot of other benefits, but I
think that we'll keep it at that for

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now and probably cover a lot more
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communication. I'd love to know from
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other side. Why do you want
to connect with the spirit baby realm again,

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Maria at the Reluctant Medium dot us
send me an email, might read

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it on a next podcast episode.
All right, let's talk about your very

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first tool, and this is going
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to communicate with your own spirit babies. We're trying to help settle the nervous

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system, reduce the emotional reaction that
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your spirit babies. And meditation is
the number one tool, absolutely hands down,

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that you must start doing today.
I don't care if it's thirty seconds

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of mindfulness. You must do it. Please, start building a habit,

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start building a practice around it.
It is the very first thing that I

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talk about in Spirit Baby Foundations training
for folks who have worked with me,

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trained with me in that course,
they know exactly when I'm talking about spirit

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baby communication, it's not possible.
I'm going to go so far as to

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say it's not possible without meditation.
At least true, true clarity is not

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possible without meditation. Okay, So
let's talk at length about your first tool,

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meditation, and then we'll talk about
how to do it. So meditation

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is and I should say I started
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I wrote about it in my book
Transcending Infertility. I hated it. I'm

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just gonna keep it real. I
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kicking and screaming. I didn't want
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such a depressed and pained state.
It was to me the last thing that

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I could try, the last ditch
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do this in order to feel better. I think it was more. It

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was actually more bitter than that.
I went into meditation to prove it wrong.

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Nothing works for me. I'm going
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that it doesn't work either, ha
ha ha. I have nothing else to

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do with my time. I was
in a I was in a bitter,

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bitter state at that time in my
life. Well, surprise, surprise,

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it fucking worked. What can I
say? It worked, and I was

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surprised. I'll tell you a brief
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New Jersey at the time, and
in New Jersey drivers are absolutely terrifying.

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They cut people off, they're rolling
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they're cursing at the window. Mamma, you know, always like yelling

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at somebody for cutting them off or
going too slow or I don't it doesn't

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matter what it is. They're just
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Jersey for my current way of speaking. So that's how I drove. I

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was just part of the jury,
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of meditating, that was my commitment. I committed to meditating for ninety days

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most days of the week. I
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of that ninety days, and I
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of ninety days, I was driving
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very first thought, I'm telling you
reflexive. My very first reflexive thought was,

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oh, I hope he's okay,
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oh shit, who am I anyway? I can't believe I just said

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that. It's crazy. I'm like, I guess this meditating thing is freaking

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working. Oh my god. And
the rest is history. I have been

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in and out of a meditating practice
since then. I am not perfect,

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that is for sure. I've gone
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pick it up again daily. It's
imperfect, and that's okay. That is

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what I want to talk about,
is that I highly recommend that you meditate.

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But you don't have to be sitting
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day. In order to start,
you must start somewhere though, at least

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thirty seconds one minute of mindful breathing. That is a place to start,

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and especially if you start the same
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that begins a practice, that begins
a habit. Okay, that's what we're

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trying to do. But so what
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there's so much research now about what
meditation does. It's going to regulate your

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nervous system. It's going to re
engage your parasympathetic nervous system, which is

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that very calm state, the state
of being where all is well, there

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are no threats on the horizon,
nothing to worry about. It's sitting on

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the duca the bay. It's that
you know that song, you know it.

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That's what it is, watching the
town way. That's the parasympathetic nervous

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system. That's what you want.
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it literally grows new synaptic connections that
match with I am peace. I

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am peace right now, your state
of being. Maybe I'm a whole freaking

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ball of nerves right now and I'm
about to lose my shit. That might

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be where you are one hundred percent
at the time. That's where I was

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one at the time. But what
meditation does is it teaches your brain that

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you are actually chill. You are
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you are calm. That does not
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That's meant they're human, that's meant
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of constantly being in this epic state
of sympathetic nervous system like you're gonna go

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nuts, you're meditating helps you get
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So when you teach your brain that
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am peace, then the emotional charges
that come when you are attempting to connect

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with the spirit baby realm, especially
your own babies, they tend to come

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and go more fluidly and you don't
get stuck on them. I have personally

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definitely gotten emotional with connecting with other
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it's more like I'm observing what's happening. My body does have a reaction,

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I get tearful, I will have
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it's more like I'm the observer of
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I am feeling all the things.
It's more like I'm watching them happen.

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So you wind up being more objective
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I am peace. Through meditation and
communication with the other side becomes that much

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easier. You are just far more
open and observant and not attached to anything.

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That is one thing that you are
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is that your ego gets checked at
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like you are just a being.
You are not your name, talking to

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other people about their spear baby stuff
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are neutral and you are the observer. So start and we're going to talk

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about why in the future, but
for now, what you're trying to do

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is cultivate a sense of I am
peace and then that opens up this observing,

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observing capability when you connect with the
other side and there's far less emotional

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charge. There is emotional charge that
comes later, there is that, but

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in the beginning, the things that
you are intuiting don't come with an emotional

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charge. It's all just fact.
It feels like fact. I'll give you

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an example. There is a fantastic
book called E Squared and E Cubed is

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also I think the second book two
in that series, and one of the

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experiments in war it is called the
Jetta principle, and I love it.

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I The book is a set of
experiments that you can do to prove that

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the universe listens to your intention.
And so the Jetta principle is that you

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think of a particular car and it'll
show up everywhere. Well, I'm skeptical,

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right, So I'm skeptic. I'm
a healthy skeptic by nature, I'm

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not picking up everything that people are
putting down. And so I was like,

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Mom, I mean, all right, so I can think of a

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car, but lots of people probably
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of an orange car. I'm going
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about a week's time, seven orange
cars. I saw seven orange cars.

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I'm like, who has freaking orange
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I lived in a small town,
Like this doesn't make any sense.

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Well, all right, you know
what, maybe there are just more orange

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cars than I thought. I'm going
to redo this experiment, and I'm going

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to choose pink cars, because who
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Guess what. In a span of
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pink vehicles. One was a limousine, the second one was a cable van,

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and the third was a classic car
like a not It was like a

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model T like an old old Ford
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Like who the fuck? Like what
how does that happen? All right?

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oh, there it is. It
felt like fact. It was like,

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okay, I'm just gonna do this. But the emotion came later,

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it was like, what, Oh
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happened. So there's an example of
how the in the intuitive thing or the

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intuitive hit will just feel like fact
and then the emotion comes later. Okay,

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all right, but that all starts
with your very first tool of meditation.

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Now, let's talk about how how
to start meditating. I'm going to

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suggest to you a few ways to
start meditating, and pick one. Just

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pick one. It doesn't matter what
you choose to do. Just pick one.

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The very first meditation that I started
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is mindfulness based stress reduction. Now, this is just mindfulness, and mindfulness

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is paying attention on purpose in a
particular way without judgment. That's what the

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particular way is. You're not judging
what you're experiencing as you're meditating. You're

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paying attention to the present moment.
Now here's the biggest complaint. I can't

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shut my brain off. I keep
thinking, thinking, thinking thinking, I

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don't know what to do. I
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I'm never going to do it again. All right, Well, in

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that statement, you have forgotten that
you are a human being. And you

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are allowed to have thoughts. You
have a brain that is functioning really well,

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and so it's creating thoughts. That's
what happens. We have sixty thousand

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some odd plus thoughts a day.
Yeah, your brain's gonna think. It's

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okay. The problem is that you're
judging it. I once I did the

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eight week training for mindfulness based stress
Reduction, and you have to take notes

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about your meditation practice. And I
remember in one note I wrote, I'm

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judging I'm thinking, and then I'm
judging the thinking, and then I'm judging

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the judging of the thinking, and
then I'm judging the judging of the judging

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of the thinking. Oh shit,
what'll I do? Well? Over time,

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you begin to find humor in this
experience and you let it go.

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You're able to you know, they
say, watch the thoughts. They call

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it a monkey mind, constantly flipping
from tree to tree to tree and swinging

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and moving and moving and moving.
It's okay. Learn to appreciate the monkey

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and you watch it and you don't
cling onto the monkeys back. You just

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watch it go. And it takes
some practice. That's mindfulness. You're paying

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attention to the thoughts that come in
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helpful to label them. That's a
thought, that's a thought, and that's

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okay, thinking, thinking, thinking, whatever it is that you need to

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do to notice that that thought came
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main objective here is to stop judging
that the thoughts are coming in and that

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you're a human who's supposed to have
thoughts. Okay. So I recommend mindfulness

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based or just mindfulness mindfulness. You
can even google up mindfulness a mindfulness practice

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and see how that works for you. But sitting and paying attention to your

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breathing, noticing when thoughts come in, and then letting them go, refocusing

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back on your breathing, start for
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same time every day. And I
would even encourage you to have a journal

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by your side so that after you
meditate you can write down your experiences.

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Sometimes it's just a note, a
quick note, no notes today. Sometimes

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it's a crazy amount of like I'm
so frustrated. I couldn't meditate, I

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couldn't focus, I couldn't blah bla
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It's fine, whatever your experience is, just write it down. Over

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time, you're going to find that
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one way that you can do that. The second way that I talked about

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with people is moving meditation. So
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or running or something that really focuses
your attention. Now, there are some

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people who poo pooh this. They
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I find different. That's my experience, and I encourage you to find out

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what your experience is and what your
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nervous system, and so when you
are, for example, taking a walk

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and counting your steps, you're only
focused on your steps, and your nervous

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system feels like, oh it's safe
because I'm just counting my steps. Fine,

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and so your parasympathetic nervous system kicks
in. Walla meditation. It's another

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form of mindfulness. Okay. Another
way that you can start meditating. I

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loved this in the beginning is guided
meditations. Guided I have a lot of

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guided meditations on my website at doctor
Maria Rothenberger dot com. You can check

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out some of those, or there
are a lot of free ones on the

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insight Timer app. Totally recommend checking
out that app. There are a ton

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of great meditations on there, and
they're all free, or you can pay

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for some too. You can up
level and pay for some, but they're

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all free. You can donate to
the teachers if you would like. I

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have a couple of meditations on there
as well. You can check out.

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That's a great app. Totally recommend
downloading that. Get rid of one of

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your social media apps and download the
Insight timor app. It's so good.

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But guided meditations, especially in the
beginning, are really great to help you

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refocus back to whatever the subject matter
is on the meditation. If you need

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help sleeping, if you need help
focusing on your breath, if you want

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to do a shamanic journey, whatever
it is that you want to focus on

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in your meditation, it's really useful
to have a guide. Sometimes, especially

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in the beginning, you'll find that
guidance is not necessary. When you start

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feeling annoyed by the guide, that's
when you know, oh, okay,

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it's time for me to attempt to
meditate on my own. And sometimes that's

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with certain kinds of music by neural
Beats are great or Selfeggio frequencies are really

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great. I'm going to be talking
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All of it's fine. You have
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you in order to engage that sense
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encourage you to pick one of those
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day. Build a habit by starting
tiny. Tiny habits dot Com another great

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website. Start tiny and tie it
to something that you already do. If

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you want to tie it to brushing
your teeth, for example, I hope

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you brush your teeth. Say that
you're going to focus on your breathing for

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one minute after brushing your teeth.
It's that simple. That is a meditation

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practice, okay, and you can
build up from there. Okay, I'm

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going to focus for two minutes on
my breathing the next day, three minutes

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on my breathing the next day.
And always tie it to something that you

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already do every day without even thinking, because that's already a So when you

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tie it to something that's a habit, you create a new habit just by

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piggyback in the thing that you want
to put into your daily practice. Okay.

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That is the A number one tool
that you're going to start doing before

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Spirit Baby Communication start to day,
okay, or at least start planning today

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for when you're going to start meditating, okay. In future podcast episodes,

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we're going to be talking about various
things. We're going to be talking about

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the Claire's clairvoyance, Claire audience,
Claire sentience, all these lovely Claires meaning

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clear in French for connecting with the
other side. We're going to be talking

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about crystals. We're going to be
talking about tarot cards oracle cards. We're

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going to be talking about connecting with
angels and ancestors. Things like this.

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Dreamwork. Dream work really really helpful. The pendulum. A pendulum is so

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fun for a lot of people,
and that's actually probably the next easiest tool,

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or the first easy tool, because
meditation is not that easy. The

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pendulum is so easy and gives such
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We're going to talk about that as
well. Lots of tools to pull into

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your tool belt to start communicating with
the other side. Now, if you

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are interested in going in depth with
Spirit Baby Communication and have one on one

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time with me and your fellow learners, consider joining the Spirit Baby Foundations training,

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which will start in September twenty twenty
three. I usually run it twice

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a year, and maybe going down
to once a year in the future,

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but for now, it is slated
to begin again in September twenty twenty three,

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and after that in April twenty twenty
four. If you are interested in

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joining that training and having one on
one time with me and your fellow learners,

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head on over to doctor Maria Rothenberger
dot com slash Spirit Baby Training to

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sign up for the waitlist to know
when we start. It's slated for September

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twenty twenty three, but you'll get
all the details if you're on that waitlist.

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All right, Hey, I really
hope that today has been helpful for

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you in starting to think about Spirit
Baby communication. Please do not hesitate to

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send your questions to me. I'm
happy to answer them in a future episode,

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and I look forward to seeing you
again soon. Speaking with you again

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soon. May you take care and
be well as always, I'll see you

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next time.