
What if the story you've been telling about your past is keeping you stuck in the wrong timeline...and you have the power to rewrite it right now? In this episode, we sit down with Steven Fischer, the human channeler behind Jadon Se, a Cosmic Golden Dragon from what he describes as the Third Arc of Consciousness.
Steven is one half of an anonymous couple living near Mount Shasta, California, who together have produced nearly 180 free channeled messages, a seven-part Golden Codes workshop series, a physical oracle deck, and a companion app...all on a donation model, on purpose.
What starts as a conversation about dragons quickly becomes one of the most practically useful episodes we've recorded. Jadon Se joins us live during the conversation, and what he shares about timelines, victimhood, worthiness, and the true treasure that dragons actually guard will stay with you long after this episode ends.
In this episode:
- How a phone glitching inside a Stargate at 3:33am led Steven to his partner, his purpose, and a golden dragon
- What the Three Arcs of Consciousness actually are, and which one humanity is currently operating in
- Why your past is not fixed, and how reframing a single childhood memory can shift your entire timeline
- The step-by-step process Jadon Se teaches for conscious timeline jumping
- What dragons actually guard, and why it has nothing to do with gold
- How Steven and his partner Stephanie channel together, and what happens when they disagree on what came through
- Why discernment is the most important skill you can develop right now as we enter the Golden Age
- Website: jadonse.com
- YouTube: youtube.com/@JadonSe
- Saturdays at 11:00am PT: Questions for the Dragon (live on YouTube)
- Wednesdays: Blessings from the Dragon (live on YouTube)
- Oracle Deck App: Search "Golden Dragon Oracle Deck" in the Apple App Store or Google Play Store
- Physical Oracle Deck, Golden Codes Workshops, and Dragon Energies Classes: jadonse.com
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Karen yes, okay. I need you to imagine I can do that
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Something very specific. Oh, okay. I need you to imagine that there is a couple
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Living quietly near Mount Chester, okay, California, right? No last names. Okay. No personal brand
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No social media presence just two people two cats and a dragon. What?
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I mean, I was like with you until the dragon well, it's it's isn't I'm talking about an actual cosmic dragon named J Don say
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I would love that so much. I know you would that's why I mean if it's a nice dragon
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I would assume that he's nice, but see this dragon named J Don say he says he's from something called the third arc of
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consciousness and he's been delivering close to
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150 channel messages on how to stop dragging the old world kicking and screaming into the new one
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This dragon Karen has opinions. Oh
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My name is Will and I'm Garrett and unlike Molder and Scully both want to believe so we've embarked on a journey of discovery
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We've talked to people deeply entrenched in the spiritual and metaphysical world
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Three-dimensional world we all live in this is the skeptic metaphysicians
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Hey there. I'm will and I'm good welcome back to the skeptic metaphysicians to show where two people who probably shouldn't get along spiritually
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Somehow keep ending up in the most fascinating conversations on a planet our guest today channels our guest today
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Listen to this channels a cosmic golden dragon
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Wow that sentence alone probably just sorted everyone listening into two camps
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Stephen Fisher who goes by the name of his channel source
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J. Don say is one half of an anonymous couple living near Mount Chastwick, California
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who together
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Please welcome Stephen Fisher or J. Don say to the skeptic metaphysicians. How are you doing today?
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I'm doing great. Thank you for having me here for having us. Well, it's a pleasure to have you
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So I mean I gotta ask do we call you Stephen do we call you J. Don say do we call you and they for dinner?
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What do you want to be addressed? You can call me Stephen and when we're channeling then you're you're addressing J. Don say
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Okay, he said when
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So Stephen we have had people who channel
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So we've got to just address the initial skepticism first and foremost right?
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I what are you talking about here a dragon like the mythical
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Oh, you know what? I was exactly where I was going next. Yeah, so so you channel this golden dragon and behind you
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So how does the dragon feel about this dick?
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This door this opens up a door
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Leads to many different possibilities. I used to play dungeons and dragons when I was a kid and
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Congratulations, that's very good for your for your spirit
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Thank you the mothers against something something would disagree with you because they were fighting to they said
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Jar token stuff all these different races and things like that. So it is is what you're doing tapping into a
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Realm that has all these types of things in existence that you're coming through another dimension another reality
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the past in the future and past lives and all this stuff and you start to look at the realms of eternity and
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That's it. There's no other reason for time when this when the soul pops out of a lifetime
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You can't you there's no you don't have to go you know into the next decade to reincarnate or something
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You could go across the universe and reincarnate wherever you want and that's why I say that
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being having played dungeons and dragons as a gift because you sir have created worlds in your own in your own right you have tapped into realms
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Directly by creating them you think you're creating them. You're aligning with them
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You don't know what's going on in my head my brain, but but I also know I
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Red this fear for a point. I've read a lot when I was younger. I read Stephen King novels and I read
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All these like horrific things are you saying that all these things actually exists somewhere now because of it?
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Oh good so that does not mean that you're gonna get dragged kicking and screaming into it
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What happened on the first two
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What was that experience? Yeah, maybe you should we should bring in J Don say to answer those kind of questions and if you want to hear a quick
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I've heard of the stargate the TV show. I've heard of lots of stargate. So what when we talking about here?
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Geometries and then when you're inside of it you can sit or stand inside of this a pretty large structure
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That's one of them is in Mount Shasta. There are a number of them all over the world now including one very didn't in a crater in
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Interview per gidentials on that one. They're the one sure of that
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So I decided I took a pillow and a blanket and I climbed into this stargate the house was dark and quiet and and
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I just spontaneously channeled pretty much for the first time in my life full channeling the being of the
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Stargate because I was asking
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You know, how do I get my soul's love like how you know how I've had so much trouble with like you know
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intimacy and love and and and suddenly I started speaking this entity
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Alkazar, which is an angelic being of that
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genre whatever the people who
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Channel stargate started speaking through me and he said dear one. It's quite simple
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You just open your heart and and ask love my soul's love come to me
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It's just quite that simple and so I thought okay
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Well, maybe I'll ask in like three years from now. It'll happen or something
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I well, I just you know, but I open my heart
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I really truly did and I asked and my cell phone was just outside the stargate on this
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Carpet next to me on the in this dark room inside you know, I didn't want it in the stargate
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Yeah, it went berserk and it started malfunctioning and
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It was making all these sounds and vibrations and and I look over and here's this face on the screen is this
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beautiful
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Being Stephanie was on the screen and it was like you know through one of the social media platforms
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Friends suggestion friends suggestion, but it kept glitching like over and over and over again
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So finally, okay, I've got to look at this and I looked at it to try to shut the phone up and I just fell into her
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profile and
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You know all her like standing at the ocean and singing and she was up in the coast of Oregon
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We didn't have anyone in common no, you know, I was just thinking how why am I being connected with this person and
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Long story short we met and fell in love and now we're a duo here and
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So we were introduced by a stargate and I was even brave enough to say to her you know
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This may seem a little odd. I'm friending you on this on this social media. This may seem a little odd, but
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this stargate that I'm in connected us and
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She she was familiar with the stargate experience in Alcazar and had done these meditations via live stream
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She had never been to the house or the property didn't know any of the people wasn't connected with anyone
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But it had definitely tuned into that stargate
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and and those meditations and so
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Yeah, anyway something magical happened there. So now I'm I'm
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divorcing and like
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separated and
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Sting these things I just manifested a place to live for free on a lake
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Beautiful place. This this
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Millionaire beautiful soul saw Stephanie and I and said oh my god you two are in love and you have to go live in my house
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I have four houses in the area she lived in Texas, but had four our houses in in in the whole
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Shasta area and you've got to have your honeymoon in this house and
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So we lived there for a year
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On the with a beautiful view of this lake and just this magical life free of charge like just while my divorce was winding down and
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finally getting settled
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so one night Stephanie and I are sleeping in this beautiful home and it was kind of windy and you know
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there's just summer breezes blowing through and and at some time like
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333 or 444 in the morning. I would often wake up and
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This time she kind of shook me and said um
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Stephen you're speaking and I said what am I saying and she said just keep going and I was kind of dimly aware
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You were talking to your sleep and she said hey wake up so you can continue talking to sleep basically
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semi-conscious and I could feel of this other presence like speaking and
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So at first we did we had her record these in bed, which is not very easy to do
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See with all these blankets ruffling and I roll over something in the muffled of the recording device or any
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Are horrible quality recordings just as you were about to give up with the secret to the universe and this is what you need to do the game
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It was just like that. It was just amazing like these amazing wisdoms coming through and just
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mind-blowing stuff and so finally I just said who is this and
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He said I'm Jade on say I'm I'm a golden cosmic dragon of the third arc of consciousness. We could talk about that and you just said oh
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Okay, oh while I was like, you know
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I'm only channeling for the highest good and the eyes of the highest divine you have to use discernment
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You can't just open the barn door to anyone who wants to come through or you know could be a trickster
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You know somebody who's not very friendly who may even be pretending to be friendly
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So you have to make these declarations that I only allow you know
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And I only am open to channeling beings that are benevolent love based for the highest good and the eyes of the highest divine
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Can't just say for anyone's highest good. It has to be somebody's highest good. Well better be the highest divine
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So right you have to use your discernment otherwise you end up going down and I have seen this
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I have seen channelers get totally
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thrown into almost gets of frenia
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by trickster energies by not so nice channeling
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You know lack of discernment I would say right lack of guidance as well
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Anyway, Jade on say started coming through and we decided well
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We can't hear these recordings very well
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Maybe I can bring him through and waking consciousness and so I started to invite him and he would come in and start to
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Channel and so by and by I started to be able to channel in front of the computer with a better sound system set up and
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We've made over 180 videos now messages from the dragon about 20 minutes each on various subjects
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What is the soul what is reincarnation what is you know what are the keys to abundance?
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What are the keys to health and healthy living?
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Restoring histories of the world that have been suppressed and forgotten
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All sorts of like different topics are available for free on our YouTube channel and
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So these are like 20 minute channelings messages from the dragon then we started doing live streams and and asking
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Answering people's questions live on the live stream as a channel dragon and there's that's a lot of fun
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We do that
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That's very cool. Yeah, just so people where you do that on Saturday mornings right 11 11 11 Pacific time right Saturday mornings
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Is questions for the dragon. That's where you get to ask questions that are not too terribly personal
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We try to keep them of interest to those who are gathered sure and then on Wednesday
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We have blessings from the dragon where Jadon say we'll read the energies of the world in that day and
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Those gathered whoever gives permission we always ask for permission for anyone who wants to be incorporated in the reading and he will read their
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energetics and and give sort of a
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It's almost like a horoscope of the day for everyone gathered, but it's not a horror it goes beyond that
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It's like it's like it's doing a
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Gigi reading or something. Yeah, yeah, and so those are fun
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We get a lot of questions. So what happens is he does a reading and then we just start doing questions from the chat and
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We go back and forth. So that sounds cool. Wow. That sounds fun
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So the only question that still remains in my mind after hearing that the story is if Jadon say is
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Speaking and no one's awake to hear it is he actually speaking
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If a man speaks his mind and there's in the wilderness and there's no woman around to hear is he still wrong?
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Yes, I heard that to you. Well, yes, and this is Bob
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Everyone I've ever said that said has said yep, he's
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That and yes dear are the two most powerful statements in the world
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Okay, so now you have been allowing this golden dragon to come
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Through you for how long?
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Well, let's see how long has it been it's been one year
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It's a year. Oh, it's relatively new that that this whole like speaking and bed thing happen
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Well, wait has it been let's see it was June
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It was no it will be we're coming up on two years. Sorry. Oh two years. Okay
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I feel much better now spent two years. That's been is there a light behind your head
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Okay, yes, because I'm like wow
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I was all excited. I'm like finally the golden dragon's coming out of his head
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She darn it she figured out one of my parlor tricks
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There is a hand under the blanket
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You know the hand behind the curtain no, no, you're doing it say on center's your guide
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Okay self-censoring might might need to be amped up a little bit over here. Yeah, no
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Thing is Steve you have an idea
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You know if you've got to explain it. It's no longer funny. So forget about it. Anyway, okay, so back to my question now then the third arc of consciousness
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What what what what arc are we in now if he is this dragon is from the third and what happened to us to?
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Shall we bring in oh yeah, we're gonna ask yes, we'll ask you don't say okay
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So we do we get prepared do we need to like run hide on the table?
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Just a flattery works really well with dr.
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Flattery and then it's a double to speak to his vanity. So it's a male dragon
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Oh, Dean you are on fire today. Oh, it's fun. All the caffeine
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Right. All right, so we can caffeine. That's that's a great idea
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So we need to
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Speak flatter him. Yes, which makes sense because that's just a joke. He's a very
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very benevolent love-based being and you'll see but it does make sense because back in the day
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Right you supposed to bring the your treasures to the dragon to as a as a okay never mind all right, so
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We're excited to meet Jade on say let's see what see what happens great. Thank you
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I am Jade on say
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Gold and dragon of the third arc of consciousness and it is a pleasure speaking with skeptic
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Physicians we love this. This is beautiful dear ones for it. It it perfectly balances the rational with the intuitive
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Does it not?
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This is perfect. You need two wings to fly to or is to row and
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Seems like you are doing well in this show dear ones
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Well, thank you for if a golden dragon says we're doing good. I'm pretty happy about that. Yeah me too
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So jade on say it can we call you jade on or is it the fall jade on say is actually what we should be how we should be you make call me
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Jade on say or sir or hey you whatever it was for you to do
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Okay, all right, so then sir
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I need to ask I asked a question of Stephen. I would like to add if get your answer
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You mentioned that you are a being from the third arc of consciousness and so my weird mind goes to what happened the first two and what arc are we in right now
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Dear ones
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We do have working with dragon energies level one in two classes where we delve deeply into these subjects and
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Experience and explain and explore the realms of eternity. Let us just say that
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From the human standpoint you are looking out at the beyond from this very limited
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Viewpoint let us say from a very narrow lens you might say your consciousness being that of one that is in a waking consciousness of a human form and so
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Let us just say that when you
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You are operating in something like the twelfth level of consciousness or arc of consciousness
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We do not say levels for they are more like arcs grand arcs of consciousness
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Each enveloping the the next in
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It is not like an onion skin. It is more like an arc. It is open ended. It is not
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Sealed let us say each are expanding in their own way and let us just say that the first arc of consciousness
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Is what you might call unity consciousness or divine unity consciousness or god consciousness or
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The sum total of all consciousness. Let us say hmm
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The second arc of consciousness is a let us say the first expression of
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Agency of unity so you might have some
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beings that are considered to be arch angels or
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beings that are so close to the source let us say that they are indistinguishable from the source in so many ways and so
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They are operating in agency for some sort of archetype or reason
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Let us say this is where you might call these the original thoughts of the divine or the original thoughts of spirit or the
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Tao or god and you can use whatever terminology you wish it and if you are a hard-headed scientist who does not like any of this
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terminology just say that it is source it is where the source of true consciousness and
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Expressions the first agency or expressions
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Alconsciousness are in the second arc of consciousness where you can separate these
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Let us say archetypes into agency if you wish arc angels or
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beings like this that have purposes
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Let us say directed by source
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But they are given this sort of agency and so then
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There is this third arc of consciousness where you have collectives
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Groupings let us say under these agencies
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So let us say that many of you are Judeo Christian background you might say this is where the seraphim are these collectives of angel types of beings or
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Divine consciousness and so this is where I reside dear ones it is
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Cosmic golden level of dragons a collective of dragons and you can also consider me to be a separate
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Individual dragon at the same time and so mmm cosmic you might say
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Dear ones I wear many bodies like beings wear wardrobes and so
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My favorite body has let us say that the scope of my body is such that the very smallest
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scales
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On what would be my claw here very tiny little scales here are larger than galaxies dear ones and so this is
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What you would see mmm if you are able to
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Expand yourself to this size you would see my form in that form. I hope this helps
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Wow Wow, what are you feeling here? Oh just just trying to
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Understand it I'm trying it just sounds incredible. Why did you
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What is your purpose for for being here for choosing Stephen to come and give these messages? What is why are you helping this way?
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Dear ones you are multi-dimensional beings and so is your Stephen and so there is not just one solitary purpose if we were to
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Try to boil this down into a theme of purposes
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Under a category it would be something like a
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Golden dragon to usher in a golden age dear ones your world story has such an opportunity to
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Let us say enter a golden age dear ones you are on the threshold many of you are even passing through the threshold as we speak this
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mmm and so
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Dragons are back because they are being called back their wisdom is being called back by so many beings upon this your guy
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your world and we are here to be of assistance
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My particular
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Form of assistance is wisdom that helps with
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Golden age mentality a renaissance of beingness
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Systems of abundance
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beautiful
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Harmonies within humanity and
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Technology's and spirit coming together in all of this dear ones
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Hmm
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So I'd love to
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Dive into a few of your teachings in the time that we have but one of the things that really
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Stock in my mind. I was doing research on you
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You teach that our lives are not on a linear timeline and that we can actually jump to higher ones
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Anyone that we want to now we've talked about things like this in the show before
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We've never heard the wisdom of a golden dragon talking about it. So in your estimation
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Can you walk us through the real process like what does someone actually do step by step to shift their timeline?
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The appearance of these human stories here the story of you as a human for many of you are
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At least dimly aware that
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You're not humans having a spiritual experience as they say you are spirits having a human experience
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Therefore if you frame it this way then you realize that this is the story of you as a human in this time
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Playing out in this particular way of you that you have
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Co-created yes, you are highly creative beings dear ones creating these stories of you and because of this
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You are constantly co-creating them. You are quite capable dear ones of timeline jumping
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Beautiful timeline jumps coming from how?
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What is it that keeps you in this timeline so to speak?
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It is quaint how linear these humans like to be it is this habit of linearity. It's is
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Let us just say that a timeline is simply useful for the coherence of the story and it is not even
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linear it is it meanders around as we all know sometimes spiraling and looping and
407
00:36:35,060 --> 00:36:39,580
Like a roller coaster ups and downs and there is no linearity
408
00:36:39,580 --> 00:36:41,220
to
409
00:36:41,220 --> 00:36:45,060
Your beingness let us just say that you are super imposing this
410
00:36:45,060 --> 00:36:50,220
Concept of linearity even when you speak of past lives and future lives
411
00:36:50,220 --> 00:36:55,580
you're attempting to apply this linearity to the soul to the spirit and
412
00:36:56,540 --> 00:37:06,940
This is where it really gets funny from the realms of the cosmos where we scratch our heads and think look at these humans thinking things are so linear and it is so
413
00:37:06,940 --> 00:37:11,100
Quaint is it not and let we are we diverge here from
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00:37:11,100 --> 00:37:15,740
Digress from what we are speaking of let us just say that
415
00:37:15,740 --> 00:37:24,700
It is beautiful to understand this and when you step outside of your story you are stepping into
416
00:37:25,180 --> 00:37:28,260
The timeless eternity the eternal now
417
00:37:28,260 --> 00:37:31,100
Where all stories are
418
00:37:31,100 --> 00:37:36,700
Potential stories and it is when you play them out that they become
419
00:37:36,700 --> 00:37:42,640
Form and all it is like your double slit experiment of quantum physics
420
00:37:42,640 --> 00:37:46,740
Until there is an observer. It is just probabilities
421
00:37:46,740 --> 00:37:48,940
Mm and when there is an observer
422
00:37:48,940 --> 00:37:54,420
This is when you're cooking with fire let us say when you jump into your own story
423
00:37:54,420 --> 00:38:00,940
Yes fire like dragons breath fire. We love to play with fire, but don't tell anyone
424
00:38:00,940 --> 00:38:06,300
It is not advisable for children to hear of this do not play with fire little ones
425
00:38:06,300 --> 00:38:12,460
It is unless you are a dragon and then only play with fire when humans cannot get burned and singed and
426
00:38:12,460 --> 00:38:16,460
Watch where you sneeze. Let us just say dear ones
427
00:38:17,100 --> 00:38:23,620
That there is so much that can be explored you can timeline jump simply by accentuating
428
00:38:23,620 --> 00:38:30,540
Aspects of your backstory or de-emphasizing parts of your backstory
429
00:38:30,540 --> 00:38:36,540
You can let us say in this moment of now greatly jump to a different timeline
430
00:38:36,540 --> 00:38:38,540
You will carry yourself differently
431
00:38:38,540 --> 00:38:43,220
You will see yourself differently and therefore your actions will become different
432
00:38:43,220 --> 00:38:48,340
You are simply on a new timeline because you haven't accentuated perhaps
433
00:38:48,340 --> 00:38:52,100
Something you would have forgotten about your backstory or
434
00:38:52,100 --> 00:38:58,860
De-emphasize some trauma or victimhood or something like this once you have released this sense of
435
00:38:58,860 --> 00:39:03,140
Trauma or victimhood or being bullied or something like this
436
00:39:03,140 --> 00:39:08,180
It can greatly change your current timeline any good therapist knows this and
437
00:39:09,300 --> 00:39:14,500
Dear ones you can do this consciously. This is not editing your timeline. You are not
438
00:39:14,500 --> 00:39:18,660
Lying to yourself about what happened in your backstory
439
00:39:18,660 --> 00:39:26,020
You are simply giving more or less importance to an aspect or characteristic of your backstory
440
00:39:26,020 --> 00:39:28,180
This is one of the let us say
441
00:39:28,180 --> 00:39:37,420
Beginners types of ways of dealing with timeline jumping we teach very advanced methods of timeline jumping even realm bridging
442
00:39:37,700 --> 00:39:42,900
Dear ones where you can walk into what seems to be an entirely different world and so
443
00:39:42,900 --> 00:39:47,700
We teach all of this in our dragon energies classes dear ones
444
00:39:47,700 --> 00:39:51,780
So if you edit or
445
00:39:51,780 --> 00:39:57,380
De-emphasize something that happened as a child and you start looking and seeing things differently
446
00:39:57,380 --> 00:40:00,020
Are you saying that that
447
00:40:00,020 --> 00:40:02,660
Without realizing it you're in a different timeline
448
00:40:03,860 --> 00:40:07,860
Indeed dear one it is because you are carrying yourself in
449
00:40:07,860 --> 00:40:15,140
differently and because of this you will make different choices and because of that and because of that
450
00:40:15,140 --> 00:40:21,380
Like dominoes falling. It will not be long before you're on it entirely different timeline
451
00:40:21,380 --> 00:40:25,780
Let us just say you were bullied in childhood and this bully
452
00:40:25,780 --> 00:40:31,220
Had a very large effect on the way you treat your fellow human beings
453
00:40:31,860 --> 00:40:37,620
Because of the time when you are so formative say it was in the third or fourth grade and this bully
454
00:40:37,620 --> 00:40:48,580
Made you feel like you are being victimized and you felt like you had to protect yourself in all of this or run and hide and let us say you did not feel like you are
455
00:40:48,580 --> 00:40:57,140
Walking in your true sovereignty and that you did not have your ability to just be you without some sorts of
456
00:40:57,700 --> 00:41:02,260
Impossible fearful consequences and so if you go back into this
457
00:41:02,260 --> 00:41:08,020
Back story of you say you have been carrying yourself like this force so long
458
00:41:08,020 --> 00:41:15,860
Ever since then without really questioning. I am always making sure that I am not taking advantage of or bullied
459
00:41:15,860 --> 00:41:25,380
When I see a bully show up. This is how I conduct myself usually I duck out or I I'm a loufus in some way or I do not face it
460
00:41:25,700 --> 00:41:33,940
And then dear ones you remain you're perhaps remember that a few years after this another being some
461
00:41:33,940 --> 00:41:39,620
Other person on the playground got bullied and had the courage to say to the bully
462
00:41:39,620 --> 00:41:45,460
What happened to you? Why are you so mean to everyone?
463
00:41:45,460 --> 00:41:50,260
What happened to you and the bully melted and
464
00:41:50,980 --> 00:41:54,980
Realized that they were being angry and said
465
00:41:54,980 --> 00:42:02,180
My father beats me and gets drunk all the time and this is the only way that I can feel
466
00:42:02,180 --> 00:42:05,780
that I have my own destiny and my own
467
00:42:05,780 --> 00:42:11,060
My own future is to be a bigger tougher and meaner
468
00:42:11,060 --> 00:42:15,540
and this one who asked that question and had the courage
469
00:42:16,020 --> 00:42:20,100
Melted the bully and the bully stopped bullying after that and
470
00:42:20,100 --> 00:42:22,740
Perhaps you remember
471
00:42:22,740 --> 00:42:29,540
vaguely hearing about this and didn't really give it much thought however you go back now and you look at your back story
472
00:42:29,540 --> 00:42:33,940
And you realize this person was just in pain
473
00:42:33,940 --> 00:42:36,660
And you realize and you
474
00:42:36,660 --> 00:42:44,980
Accentuate I was not actually a victim. I just missed the opportunity to ask them what happened to you
475
00:42:45,460 --> 00:42:51,460
Like this other beautiful being did. I simply missed that opportunity. I am not a victim
476
00:42:51,460 --> 00:42:55,780
I was just in the presence of someone who is in pain and so then
477
00:42:55,780 --> 00:43:03,380
Instead of carrying yourself like a victim you realize you regain this opportunity consciousness
478
00:43:03,380 --> 00:43:10,660
That the next time you see a bully you might be able to find out what happened to you? Why are you like this?
479
00:43:11,860 --> 00:43:16,580
And you see how this will change your entire timeline dear ones.
480
00:43:16,580 --> 00:43:21,940
First of all I feel very cold out
481
00:43:21,940 --> 00:43:29,060
How do you talking about me? J. Don't say aren't you you talking about me when I was a boy great with the bully
482
00:43:29,060 --> 00:43:34,740
I know it. I recognize it. That's not fair. You can't be bringing my stuff out here in the open like this. You got to ask for a mission first sir
483
00:43:34,740 --> 00:43:38,100
You volunteered. It's just now
484
00:43:39,300 --> 00:43:45,860
Call you out by name, but yes, we do read the energies. I can only imagine
485
00:43:45,860 --> 00:43:53,460
Well speaking of energies. I do have a question that I have they ran across
486
00:43:53,460 --> 00:43:58,340
When I do research a lot that you I don't think you ever answered. I really want to know
487
00:43:58,340 --> 00:44:03,300
Because we have limited time. I want to jump right to that question. You have spoken
488
00:44:03,300 --> 00:44:08,020
About dragons guarding a priceless treasure
489
00:44:08,740 --> 00:44:10,740
But not the kind that anyone expects
490
00:44:10,740 --> 00:44:16,180
We're not going to let you leave today without unpacking that one. So what is this treasure?
491
00:44:16,180 --> 00:44:19,300
Well dear ones
492
00:44:19,300 --> 00:44:26,180
Let us just shift something so that your Stephen he is present with us. He can share something that he created
493
00:44:26,180 --> 00:44:29,220
Let us just say that
494
00:44:29,220 --> 00:44:31,700
There is a certain
495
00:44:31,700 --> 00:44:34,500
Dragons horde let us say
496
00:44:34,500 --> 00:44:38,100
We call this dragons horde here. Let me
497
00:44:38,980 --> 00:44:42,260
Just hide your Stephen for just a quick moment here
498
00:44:42,260 --> 00:44:47,700
Oh, there is also a dragon peering in on you look out. Jade on stage
499
00:44:47,700 --> 00:44:55,780
Here is the dragon horde and notice that it is not gold and coins dear ones
500
00:44:55,780 --> 00:44:58,580
Notice that this dragon's horde is
501
00:44:58,580 --> 00:45:07,300
Story dear ones. This is the stuff of eternity. This is the true treasure of the cosmos
502
00:45:07,780 --> 00:45:11,220
Stories human stories other stories
503
00:45:11,220 --> 00:45:20,180
Your stories dear ones each of you your stories matter more than you know you're in riching eternity
504
00:45:20,180 --> 00:45:23,300
So we will we could get on our
505
00:45:23,300 --> 00:45:27,780
podium and speak of this until we are blue in the face however
506
00:45:27,780 --> 00:45:32,740
This is as you say limited time. So stories are the true
507
00:45:33,780 --> 00:45:41,300
horde of dragons and we guard them fiercely we will not allow false histories to stand we will not allow
508
00:45:41,300 --> 00:45:43,460
Deceptions and
509
00:45:43,460 --> 00:45:52,660
Misrepresentations of stories to stand over time and throughout the cosmos we restore histories we restore truth
510
00:45:52,660 --> 00:45:58,980
Because the truth of your story even if it seems very boring is so important
511
00:45:59,620 --> 00:46:03,300
Even let us say the bum laying in the gutter with um
512
00:46:03,300 --> 00:46:10,420
Alcohol spilled all over them even their story matters more than you could possibly know dear ones
513
00:46:10,420 --> 00:46:15,300
You knew I was gonna ask that question did you you had it already to go?
514
00:46:15,300 --> 00:46:18,020
Uh, it's perfect actually very cool
515
00:46:18,020 --> 00:46:25,380
Well jade on say has been an absolute honor. I do have one more question that I want to ask Stephen
516
00:46:25,380 --> 00:46:28,500
So uh unless you have something else you want to ask the dragon
517
00:46:28,820 --> 00:46:32,100
For hours, but yeah, maybe another time yeah
518
00:46:32,100 --> 00:46:39,220
Well, dear ones just come on questions for the dragon on saturday or or blessings for the dragon on Wednesday
519
00:46:39,220 --> 00:46:41,780
You can ask us many questions as you wish
520
00:46:41,780 --> 00:46:46,740
All right now you know, thank you. Thank you so much for being with us today. Do you need to say?
521
00:46:46,740 --> 00:46:49,620
It is our pleasure dear ones
522
00:46:57,380 --> 00:46:59,380
Well hi
523
00:46:59,380 --> 00:47:04,420
How does that feel does it I mean do you remember everything that comes through yeah?
524
00:47:04,420 --> 00:47:08,660
Yeah, yeah, I'm sitting here. I'm not like I'm not pushed aside. It's like a copilot
525
00:47:08,660 --> 00:47:12,020
It's like I get out of the driver's seat and get into the passenger seat
526
00:47:12,020 --> 00:47:17,380
Um, and I'm there. I'm present and um it gives me energy
527
00:47:17,380 --> 00:47:20,340
I always feel like I need to go for a walk or something afterwards
528
00:47:20,340 --> 00:47:23,140
Well, just uh my body feels
529
00:47:24,100 --> 00:47:28,580
Before you before you leave us I have a couple of questions. Just you know, go for walk out of here
530
00:47:28,580 --> 00:47:32,100
I won't rush Brent down the stairs
531
00:47:32,100 --> 00:47:41,540
Shoot um, so is it like do you feel yourself thinking the thoughts like coming up with the thoughts or is it well like you so jadon say has to
532
00:47:41,540 --> 00:47:45,860
Access my vocabulary and he has to access my
533
00:47:45,860 --> 00:47:48,260
understanding and
534
00:47:48,260 --> 00:47:50,260
and translated into a way
535
00:47:50,820 --> 00:47:57,780
It has to be translated by me so I'm like a translator um, and so I feel him reaching for
536
00:47:57,780 --> 00:48:05,940
um a way to express something and oftentimes I'll offer up here's a word or here's a here's an idea that you can
537
00:48:05,940 --> 00:48:09,620
You used to express that if you wish so I am
538
00:48:09,620 --> 00:48:11,860
involved
539
00:48:11,860 --> 00:48:14,020
Kind of as an assistant
540
00:48:14,020 --> 00:48:16,500
got you, okay
541
00:48:16,500 --> 00:48:19,780
I don't want to take up all the questions. No, I did well
542
00:48:19,780 --> 00:48:24,900
I was gonna ask if it's exhausting, but he just answered that so he's like totally energized. That's incredible
543
00:48:24,900 --> 00:48:31,700
And does he does he ever come in without you inviting him in like does he just wake up? Hey, I gotta tell you something
544
00:48:31,700 --> 00:48:41,940
He's very polite so I can feel like if he wants to come in um, I'll feel him like his energy just around me. It's almost like
545
00:48:41,940 --> 00:48:46,900
Uh the feeling of someone that you trust kind of looking over your shoulder a little bit
546
00:48:47,300 --> 00:48:53,300
Like you become aware that they're kind of say you're cooking in the kitchen and someone comes up behind you and is looking over your shoulder
547
00:48:53,300 --> 00:48:57,780
And giving you a suggestion on how to make the those eggs a little better or something
548
00:48:57,780 --> 00:49:05,140
And you can feel it. It's like okay. What do you have to say what okay come on in is like a pet your little kid like
549
00:49:05,140 --> 00:49:15,700
No, he never forces his way on me. I think that the thing in the bed was just an introduction. It was like
550
00:49:16,580 --> 00:49:21,220
You know it wasn't forced. Okay. Well, if you're not listening, I'm gonna come through and I'm gonna force you to listen to you
551
00:49:21,220 --> 00:49:22,980
Right kind of thing. All right
552
00:49:22,980 --> 00:49:28,900
So you said that you had had so many different experiences that were like corroborated things that you could
553
00:49:28,900 --> 00:49:32,980
Prove that this is true and it's a real thing. Can you just share one of them with us?
554
00:49:32,980 --> 00:49:38,740
Well most of them are anecdotal um, so you know if we're looking at
555
00:49:38,740 --> 00:49:42,100
If we're looking at empirical science here
556
00:49:42,100 --> 00:49:45,860
I probably could not prove that this is real to you
557
00:49:46,020 --> 00:49:53,780
However, um so many people like even you in this show have said to to us together
558
00:49:53,780 --> 00:50:01,700
You started speaking of exactly what I needed to hear and answered my questions before I even asked them
559
00:50:01,700 --> 00:50:03,940
And when you have a group setting of
560
00:50:03,940 --> 00:50:09,220
You know say like 50 people 30 to 50 people on a live stream
561
00:50:09,220 --> 00:50:12,580
Only certain amount of questions get answered
562
00:50:12,900 --> 00:50:22,500
We've had so many people say I came with this question and it got answered before I even asked it like and so it happens a lot
563
00:50:22,500 --> 00:50:28,980
Actually pretty much every time we gather and um, so it's just feedback people saying
564
00:50:28,980 --> 00:50:31,460
That's exactly what I needed to hear
565
00:50:31,460 --> 00:50:36,740
Before I even asked the question or I like like I can feel jade on say
566
00:50:37,220 --> 00:50:44,820
Roots like feeling my energy my presence and acknowledging what I'm here for and um lovingly
567
00:50:44,820 --> 00:50:47,380
addressing it sort of thing
568
00:50:47,380 --> 00:50:49,380
That's great
569
00:50:49,380 --> 00:50:55,380
So I think one of the questions I have always had and just I was waiting for the right time to ask it because
570
00:50:55,380 --> 00:50:58,420
It can be a little sensitive I guess in a little ways, but
571
00:50:58,420 --> 00:51:06,500
When looking into you you talk a lot about the fact that it's not just you doing this you and your partner
572
00:51:07,300 --> 00:51:09,300
Do this together
573
00:51:09,300 --> 00:51:14,500
How does that and even in the pre interview questions that I sent you you mentioned
574
00:51:14,500 --> 00:51:22,500
That you do the speaking but Stephanie holds energy in space not kind of stuff. So how does how does it work with the two of you
575
00:51:22,500 --> 00:51:25,860
How do the two of you channel jade on say together?
576
00:51:25,860 --> 00:51:28,580
It's very much like if um
577
00:51:29,700 --> 00:51:34,260
Hmm, I guess you would talk about divine consciousness being divine
578
00:51:34,260 --> 00:51:37,060
masculine and divine feminine and that
579
00:51:37,060 --> 00:51:47,380
There are masculine archetypes and feminine archetypes the in the young you know all that and the male archetype the divine male is the one who's
580
00:51:47,380 --> 00:51:48,900
expressing
581
00:51:48,900 --> 00:51:50,900
pushing things out into experience
582
00:51:50,900 --> 00:51:54,100
You know going out into the world creating
583
00:51:54,100 --> 00:51:59,220
speaking this out into the world out into everyone's ears if they want to listen and
584
00:51:59,620 --> 00:52:04,980
The divine feminine is gathering and inviting it inward and pulling
585
00:52:04,980 --> 00:52:07,300
this energy
586
00:52:07,300 --> 00:52:12,980
You know through the intuit intuitive channels like in in inward motion. So
587
00:52:12,980 --> 00:52:18,980
Oftentimes Stephanie is meditating right downstairs below me or she might be sitting next to me
588
00:52:18,980 --> 00:52:23,060
She doesn't prefer to go on camera, which is fine. That's another often
589
00:52:23,060 --> 00:52:28,260
Divine feminine thing working behind the scenes the unsung heroes and
590
00:52:29,060 --> 00:52:34,980
Just being of service in a beautiful loving and nurturing way without being the the star of the
591
00:52:34,980 --> 00:52:37,460
Whatever and so she
592
00:52:37,460 --> 00:52:45,540
Oftentimes will be meditating throughout and setting up a field and she also offers beautiful insights like
593
00:52:45,540 --> 00:52:54,820
You know, did you notice that you know some of these people are starting to lean in and and like you know get a little inappropriate and maybe we should
594
00:52:55,620 --> 00:53:04,020
You know like figure out some boundaries that are healthy and respectful and and so she's very much active in keeping things
595
00:53:04,020 --> 00:53:07,380
in full integrity in full purity
596
00:53:07,380 --> 00:53:10,420
and correcting
597
00:53:10,420 --> 00:53:16,580
Impurities that occur by pointing them out by by just being present and aware and
598
00:53:16,580 --> 00:53:23,940
loving and very beautiful. She's a gorgeous person. So it's kind of funny that she doesn't want to be on camera
599
00:53:24,020 --> 00:53:31,300
Maybe you know, she's very humble about her beauty, but she's absolutely stunningly beautiful. So get only only imagine
600
00:53:31,300 --> 00:53:34,020
so
601
00:53:34,020 --> 00:53:38,100
It has ever been a time
602
00:53:38,100 --> 00:53:42,340
When the two of you have disagreed on what is coming through
603
00:53:42,340 --> 00:53:46,340
I'm asking because there has to be a certain level of
604
00:53:46,340 --> 00:53:52,580
intimacy for the two of you to hold the same space together to let have this happen, but you know
605
00:53:53,220 --> 00:53:56,420
in 3d relationships sometimes people are wrong
606
00:53:56,420 --> 00:54:01,540
And so how do you handle it when all of a sudden you know
607
00:54:01,540 --> 00:54:04,260
obviously that you are wrong and
608
00:54:04,260 --> 00:54:10,420
There's there's some like conflict between the two yet. Does that affect the team?
609
00:54:10,420 --> 00:54:17,700
It's interesting that it's it's only in our interpretations of what comes through that we differ at times
610
00:54:17,700 --> 00:54:21,940
It's not none of us feel like something incorrect has come through
611
00:54:22,740 --> 00:54:30,420
We I don't think we've even once had a discussion where it's like what do you think that was really jade on say because that didn't seem right or
612
00:54:30,420 --> 00:54:35,140
Or that didn't seem correct. No, there's that that hasn't happened once
613
00:54:35,140 --> 00:54:38,900
But there have been times where it's just you know
614
00:54:38,900 --> 00:54:45,220
Oh, well, I think jade on say meant this or that and we would kind of disagree on the takeaway
615
00:54:45,220 --> 00:54:50,420
From it and then jade on say would usually come through and say you're both right
616
00:54:50,740 --> 00:54:56,180
You're just multi-dimensional being seeing different dimensions like he loves the aphorism of the seven
617
00:54:56,180 --> 00:55:00,820
Blind men who find the elephant and they're like describing the elephant
618
00:55:00,820 --> 00:55:05,140
You know one has the tail one has the tusk and all that he loves that aphorism
619
00:55:05,140 --> 00:55:10,180
And so he'll bring that up again and again to just say look you're all everyone's right
620
00:55:10,180 --> 00:55:12,900
They're just right in their own way, you know
621
00:55:12,900 --> 00:55:15,460
They're just seeing things from their own point of view
622
00:55:15,460 --> 00:55:20,660
So I think jade on say he's come through me once because he told me the magic words to diffuse any of that
623
00:55:20,660 --> 00:55:22,660
conflict and that is yes dear
624
00:55:22,660 --> 00:55:38,820
Well, so Steven if someone wanted to meet jade on say or ask questions or take your courses or we didn't even talk about your
625
00:55:38,820 --> 00:55:41,700
Your deck, which is really cool because it's a physical thing
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But you also can do it online right or I was in the app. How does that work? Talk to us about that real quick
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Well here. I'll just switch over to where this dragon's still over here
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Reading his stories here. Let me let me just see if there's our YouTube channel
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So youtube.com there slash
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At jade on say and that's the spelling it's jad oh n
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SE it's usually two words, but you know with the web and all of that yeah
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so
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Let's see we have um also a website and the website is um just
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www.jadonsay.com
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Oh, I'm a graphic designer and I can't have things that are misaligned
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It's
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So there we go all I can say is superimposed on something
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Hopefully that's legible to your viewers and for those who have watches we
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I'm sorry did you did I interrupt you? I'm sorry. Just real quick if you're if you're only watching
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I'm sorry if you only listening to the show
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You're missing what what he's doing. He's actually adding the website on the screen
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Which I'm very grateful for because he's saving me a lot of time in the edit room
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So thank you for that Steven
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Very good and then we also have um the the oracle deck that you mentioned. I'll just turn my camera off
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Here's our oracle deck and so they're all
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Various dragon cards of course the look you don't yeah and many people say that they really feel jadon say in the deck like
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Again, they'll ask a question and they'll get the exact answer at that time that they really needed and so many people really love this and
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It's also an app so that if you pull a physical card you can look up the card on your app or you could just use the app to draw a card too
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Um, so you don't need the physical deck
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But people like to have that because they they draw a card and then they enter the card in the app and they hear um
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Voice channeled audio of jadon say giving guidance for that card
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And so it's instead of reading a little booklet or something um for the guidance. So that's kind of fun too
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You know, that's like Taylor made for me because I
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Sealed deck the cards come out and you have to read his whole thing
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I rather just tell me tell me what it means
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You know perfect. Yeah, that's awesome
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So they are beautiful. They are gorgeous. Is that where someone can access these things is is on jadon say dot com
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Yeah, that well of course the apps will be just found on the app stores
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So if you go to the apple app store or the google play store you just look for the golden dragon oracle deck
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With old and dragon oracle deck and somehow or other if you put in jadon say it might not come up. So
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Sure, okay. Well, we're gonna we're gonna ask our editor to put a
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All of these links and all of this information as to how to access all this stuff in the show notes. So if you
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Are driving or you're not able to take jot things down or you knew all you need to do is go to skepticmanevisition.com
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Go to steven's episode page or jadon says episode pages you'll see all those links laid in their nishonos directly
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So it's easy for you to connect
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Stephen
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Please give our thanks to the golden dragon. This has been wild and so much fun so much fun
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Well, you guys are welcome to come on our live stream if you want and we will promote you and
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And we love what your work. So thank you very much for your work. No, thank you very much for yours
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And thanks for the mute. It's a definitely mutual admiration society. So thank you
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Is a pleasure meeting you. Yeah, well, and we'll definitely we'll talk offline. We'd love to take you up on that offer
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Okay, very good. All right. Thanks for being on the show. We'll talk to you soon. All right. Thanks
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Oh
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Oh
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[Music]

Channeler
Steven Fischer is a graphic designer, father of three, and lifelong seeker whose journey from science-based skeptic to cosmic dragon channeler began the night he was pinned under a car in his twenties and had an out-of-body experience precise enough to corroborate afterward. That single event cracked open a question he never stopped asking: what is consciousness, really, and where does it go?
Decades later, after moving to Mount Shasta, California during the COVID pandemic, Steven began channeling a being who introduced himself as Jadon Se. a Cosmic Golden Dragon of the Third Arc of Consciousness. Together with his partner Stephanie, who holds energetic space during transmissions, Steven has since produced nearly 180 free channeled messages, a seven-part Golden Codes workshop series, a physical oracle deck, and a companion app available on both iOS and Android. All of it runs on a donation model, by design.
Jadon Se's teachings center on helping people shed the density of old timelines, reclaim their sense of worthiness and safety, and step consciously into what he describes as the Golden Age. His Saturday morning "Questions for the Dragon" and Wednesday "Blessings from the Dragon" live streams have cultivated a quietly devoted global community drawn as much to the warmth and practicality of the guidance as to the cosmology behind it.
Steven remains, by his own description, a skeptic. He tests what comes through. He welcomes corroboration. And he will be the first to tell you that the barn door to channeling should never …Read More





















