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In this New Awakenings episode, hosts Karen and Will engage in a captivating conversation with Mark Anthony, J.D., known...

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Channeling & Mediumship
On this special LIVE episode of The Skeptic Metaphysicians, taped on location at the Edgar Cayce A.R.E. in Virginia Beach, VA....

In this New Awakenings episode, hosts Karen and Will engage in a captivating conversation with Mark Anthony, J.D., known as the Psychic Explorer.

Mark, a fourth-generation psychic medium and Oxford-educated attorney, shares his unique journey of combining law with his mediumistic abilities.

He discusses genetic traits of psychic abilities, his rich family history of psychics, his career transition from law to focusing on spiritual work, and his exploration of global ancient mysteries.

Through fascinating anecdotes from places like Machu Picchu and his insights into common themes across belief systems, Mark emphasizes the core messages of love and evidence in both his psychic and legal careers.

The discussion also touches on his books, which guide readers through grief and explore the intersections of science and spirituality.


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This episode of The Skeptic Metaphysicians was recorded live at

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the Edgar Casey AAR.

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Welcome to New Awakenings with Edgar Casey's AAR. We're together

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through some incredible conversations. We go through beautiful journeys of

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discovery that might shape the way and think about things

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and could even change your life now.

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Mark Anthony, JD.

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Psychic Explorer, is a fourth generation psychic medium who communicates

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with spirits, of course, but recently won the OMI Award

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as Best Psychic Medium. He's also Oxford educated, so we know.

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That he brings his stuff.

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He's an attorney and he appears nationwide on TV and

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radio as a psychic medium, but also as a legal analyst,

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as an ND expert and researcher in the paranormal and

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ancient mysteries. He's a VIP executive contributor for Best Holistic

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Life magazine, a best selling author, and in his plethora

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of free time, he also co hosts The Psychic and

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the Doc on Transformation Network. We're thrilled to have the

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Psychic Lawyer with us today. Welcome to the show, Mark Anthony.

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Thank you, will, thank you, Karen. It's an honor to

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be here.

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Well, the honor is ours.

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We are we know so much about you already that

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it is Frankly, we're a little starstruck, I would say,

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So please bear with us.

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We might mumble our way through this interview.

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You'll be fine, It'll be fine.

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So, Mark, usually when you think of a psychic, you

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don't usually think of.

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Law right alongside that.

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So how did you put those two very different worlds together.

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I was born into a family of psychic mediums, and

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the thing is, I'm the first person that went public

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with it. My dad was a Navy seal and an

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aerospace engineer, but he also had mediumistic ability, as did

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my mother, who was a commercial illustrator and artist. And

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even back in the day, she was a leg model.

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She had such beautiful legs. The department store that she

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was working for was this high end retailer in the

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New York City area. They said she had Betty Grable legs.

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So my mother was a leg model back in the

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late nineteen fifties.

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Well, this was not the way I thought this interview

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was going to run.

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E Actually, Well, you know, normally when people think of psychics,

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they think of like Ouiji boards and turbans and oh,

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I'm seeing the beautitar and all that sort of thing,

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and those are the stereotypes. But the thing is, this

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appears to be a genetic trait, and it's what's known

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as a recessive genetic trade. I'll make it very simple.

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Being right handed is a dominant genetic trade because ninety

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plus percent of the people in the world are right handed.

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Being left handed is a recessive genetic trait because less

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than ten percent of the people in the world are

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left handed. And it can skip a generation well on

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both sides of my family, and it goes back into

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the eighteen nineties that I've been able to track, so

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I'm assuming it goes even further. There have been people

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with psychic and mediumistic abilities, and both my parents had

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these interesting footnote. My maternal great grandmother, my mother's grandmother,

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that part of the family was Italian, and when she

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came over from Italy, she had major psychic abilities and

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was known in the Italian community of North Jersey and

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New York City as the woman who knows things.

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Yeah.

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In fact, in twenty sixteen, PBS did a special called

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the Italian Americans and it was a two night special.

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It was I think two hours each night, and I

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remember watching it and they did an entire segment, an

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entire segment on my great grandmother Giovanna, and they did

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reference her psychic ability.

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Right, Daddy is kind of cool.

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Yeah, So here I am, you know. And so when

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you get two parents with the same recessive genetic trait,

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the likelihood one of their children is going to have

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that increases exponentially, and that would be me. So at

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three and a half years old, I start interacting and

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talking to my invisible friends, which at first blush is

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really not unusual for a toddler, but when mommy and

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Daddy can see who I'm talking to, and I remember

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mom going, oh, he's got it, and my dad, ah, geez,

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he's you.

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Know, yeah, yeah, it sounds right. Yeah.

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And so as I got older, I wanted to go

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into the clergy, which is not unusual for a medium,

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being drawn to the spiritual. And I was raised in

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the Catholic faith and my dad had to convert from

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being a Pennsylvania Baptist to a Catholic just to marry

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my mom. It was that, we tell you, we could

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do a whole show on that, which would be it

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could be a TV show, but I felt that it

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was too restricting, too many rules, too many regulations. So

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I went into laws. So talk about jumping out of

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the frying pan and into the fire.

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But the thing is when you look at both being

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a medium and an attorney, I'm an evidential medium, but

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when I do readings for people, I have to connect

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with spirits and they have to transmit to me verifiable

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pieces of information in other words, evidence that can be

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substantiated to guarantee the authenticity of the contact. Right now,

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what does the lawyer need in court? Evidence? So I

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found that both careers, while they may seem diametrically opposed,

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they both rely on evidence, and even more importantly, or

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as importantly, they both involve helping people. You know, I know,

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believe me, I understand what people think of lawyers, and

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believe me understand what a lot of people think of psychics.

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But when you move all that out of the way,

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we're both there to help people at the most difficult

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times of their lives. So do you.

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Use your psychic abilities when you're practicing law? Does that

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give you an edge? Or do you do you keep

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them separate, separate worlds?

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Well, it's part of my skill set and who I am.

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And just for the record, I'm no longer practicing law.

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I don't take clients now because I'm devoting my time

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exclusively to my mediumistic work, my work as a lecturer.

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I lecture on several different topics. I'm going to have

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been at the Ancient Mysteries Conference, the Reincarnation Conferences at

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Edgar Casey. I've got a talk coming up the Mysteries,

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Secrets and Curse of Toot in Common, which I guarantee

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is gonna be fascinating and fun. So but when I

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was practicing law, I had a reputation for being kind

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of weird, but kind of weird in a watch out

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for this guy because he seems to know things that

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he shouldn't know. And I would use my abilities to

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give me insights into situations. That didn't mean I won

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every case, because sometimes no matter how intuitive you are,

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how good you are, you can't change the facts. But

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particularly in things like jury selection, and if you'll indulge

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me for a minute moment, I remember I had started

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as a prosecutor, but now in this situation, I had

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moved to a private firm and I was a criminal

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defense lawyer. So I'm defending this guy and he's this

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big bruiser and he was in a barroom brawl. So

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big Bruiser A My client beat up big bruiser b

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who was the victim, and the victim lost the fight,

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so he pressed charges. So here we are in court

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the crime of violence. And it's the initial part of

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the trial, which is jury selection. It's also an as vader,

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which is a French term for to speak the truth.

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And the objective of wader is you have a panel

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of prospective jurors. The judge gives some introductory comments, then

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the prosecution asks them questions, and then I get to

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ask questions. The objective is to eliminate people with biases

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so that we end up with an impartial jury. So

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this was a crime of violence, and they're getting ready.

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The prosecutor is getting ready to finish his line of

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questioning of the prospective jurors. And I kept getting pulled

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to this one juror, this woman, and I kept feeling

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this tightening around my throat and I kept getting a

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female spirit next to her, and I'm like, you know,

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I'm trying to like tell spirits, like you know, this

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is not the ideal.

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Time, back off, Lady.

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It kept intensifying and I felt like I couldn't breathe.

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So I knew that whoever this spirit was, it was

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a female spirit connected with this female juror. Something had

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obstructed her breathing. And so you know, the judges Council,

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defense counsel, you may, you may inquire. So I started

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with a standard question, have you or has anyone on

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this jury panel ever been the victim or someone in

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your family the victim of a violent crime? We lo

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and behold that woman. Her hand shakes, she looks up

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at me, tears are rolling down her eyes, and she said,

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a year ago, my sister was in a foreign country

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when an escaped mental patience strangled her, dismembered her body,

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and threw it in the garbage like she was trash.

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So I'm standing there because I'm thinking in law school,

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they did not teach me how to deal with this.

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And I can hear my client on, dude, what are

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you doing? And then I could see her sister's spirit

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coming through, very very clear and literally, Karen and will

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I had a foot in both worlds, in our world

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and on the other side. And if the audience wants

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to find out what happens They're gonna happen my book

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Never Letting Go, which you can get through Edgar Casey's bookstore.

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That was That was like butter.

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Cliffhanger.

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You must have done this once or twice before.

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With all the humility. I was a really good trial lawyer,

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I can imagine.

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Well, on top of being a trial lawyer, on top

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of being a psychic medium, you're also known as a

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psychic explorer.

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We're looking at your background, sorry to cut you off,

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and we're seeing all this stuff right, very kind of

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Indiana Jones, which, by the he was my first love

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when I was twelve. I wanted to marry Indiana Jones.

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Well, so hey again I.

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Got a good second, a very.

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Strange direction that this interview is going in.

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But uh, there is cooler than Harrison Ford.

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That yes, yes, I'd like him. All right.

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So you you have traveled the world exploring ancient.

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Mysteries and all that kind of stuff.

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What have you discovered that or seen that has surprised

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you the most in your in your travels?

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Oh my goodness, Kyle, there have been so many places

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that I've been. Oh, I remember when I was at

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machu Pichu. Machu Pichu is the lost city of the Incas.

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Talk about Indiana, Jones, I mean it. It's it's at

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an eleven thousand foot elevation. And when the Spaniards conquered

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the Inca Empire and Machu Picchu's in Peru, they never

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conquered Machu Picchu. Apparently it was beyond, you know, beyond

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their conquest. And it appears though that Machu Pichu was

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abandoned by the Incas, and from archaeological evidence, it was

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discovered I believe around nineteen oh two by Hiram Bingham,

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and I think he was affiliated with Yale University, and

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we think it was populated by about ten thousand people,

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most of them women or a lot of them women,

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who were the priestesses of the god of the Sun.

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But we also know that the Inca's engaged in human

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sacrifice and there is this large altar, and we know

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that it was the human sacrificial altar. So here I am,

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you know, walking around and being a psychic medium, I'm

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very proficient with psychometry. Psychometry is psychic ability where you're

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able to discern information from a person, place, or thing

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that's why. A lot of times, behind the scenes, and

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including myself, psychics have been used with law enforcement to

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pick up pieces of information to help direct law enforcement

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on the right trail. Psychic intuition can't be used in court.

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It's hearsay. An out of court statement offered to prove

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the truth of the matter asserted, I mean, what can

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be more hearsay than a message from a spirit or

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something from you know, a vibration. But we can give

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the police information which can lead them on the trail

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to where they are able to discern and locate admissible evidence.

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All right, So here I am at Machu Pichu, and

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about one hundred and fifty feet from the human sacrificial altar,

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and it had the best few. So I went into

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this because I liked the frame of like the stones

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around me. And I had my camera up and I'm

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looking at the altar, and then all of a sudden,

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there was this flash, and all all of a sudden,

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I felt transported to a completely different place. I saw

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the altar, but there was a line of people on

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either side of the path that led up to it,

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and they were all wearing feathers and gold jewelry and

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and animal headdresses. And I realized in that few seconds,

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I was seeing the perspective of the person who was

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going to have their heart cut out as a government's revice,

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and I was seeing all the priests and the devotees

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to the religion of the Sun. And it was incredible.

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because that's how psychometry can be, and and it was amazing.

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I didn't feel fear. I got the sense that this

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was an honor. And then I came out of it

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and I'm like, oh my.

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God, and a few other choice words too, But yeah,

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Like I remember, I had to go sit down for

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a while and like process that. Well, even today I

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still try to process absolutely. And that's just one of several,

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Like that statue of the Buddha above the elephant there.

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I got that in Thailand and I was on the

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northern border of Thailand near Laos and my traveling friend

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and I and I write about him in evidence of

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eternity and in the afterlife frequency. His name was Billy.

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He was my best friend. We grew up together. God,

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I could tell stories about about him. And the funny

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thing is he was an atheist and he was always like, well,

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I don't get how you do that psychic thing. We

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the time that he passed a few years back about

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about the afterlife. And we're the only people of the

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Caucasian persuasion in this whole area. Okay, I mean we've

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been traveling for days. We hadn't seen another white person.

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and it was so cool because it was it was

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really hot there. It was like a desert. It was

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more of a savannah, but it was one hundred and

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ten that day, so you know, it was a desert

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and the temple was in the distance, and it had

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these two gigantic stone dragons that were green, red and white,

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you know, with their dragon mouths. And we walked up,

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you know, into the temple, and then all the monks there,

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they're all wearing these orange robes. It was like we

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stepped onto the set of that old TV show Kung Fu.

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I mean it was like everyone was bald and they

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had the robes and they're all very.

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And I was so appreciative of how kind they were

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to us that I gave them. I gave them five dollars. Okay,

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now that may not sound like much, but at that time,

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you could feed an entire family in Thailand for two

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weeks with seventy five cents. Wow. And the monk was

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so appreciative he gave me this statue in gratitude, and

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here I am. Yeah. I literally did feel like Indiana Jones.

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You know when you got that gold on it was

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like and so every time I look at that, that

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that gold and it's not gold but it's painted, it

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just brings back one of the most spiritual and pleasant memories.

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Oh oh God, that just sounds so wonderful. Now you

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have traveled all over the world and experienced visually psychically

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all so many different cultures, have you found something that

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is similar in every culture, Like everybody has a certain

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belief for in your experience, have you seen anything like that?

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Absolutely, the light. Yeah, every belief system, whether it's Native

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American beliefs, whether it's Buddhism, Hinduism, Christianity, Islam, Judaism, Jainism, Zoroastrianism, Taoism, all.

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The isms ill.

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They all perceive the spiritual energy of the divine power

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that we call God in terms of light. And it

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gets even more fascinating because in the realm of death

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experiences where somebody dies, their consciousness leaves their body and

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then they return to their body, they all talk about

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going through a tunnel into the light. And light is

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the only form of electromagnetic energy visible to the human eye.

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And I believe in the research scientists that I work

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with as well, that light is how we're capable perceiving

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the spiritual energy of what we call God. So from

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the perception of the divine light, most certainly is the

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second one, Karen, is all belief systems, when you crystallize

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them down, can come to two words be nice. Let

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me think about it. They all have a version of

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the Golden rule. Christianity, you know, treat others the way

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you want to be treated. Buddhism is don't do to

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people what you don't want done to you. But they

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all have a version of that, and it's it's very

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easy to say, but it's a lot harder to do.

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Especially when you're driving in traffic in this area Friday

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Have to realize the person in the car in front

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of you is not your enemy. Yeah, and it's real

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easy to to fall into that. But but treating people

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the way you want to be treated, that's a pretty

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high bar when you really try to do it.

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So would you say, at the center of everything is love?

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Trying to express.

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Out without a doubt. In my book The Afterlife Frequency,

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I introduced the term the electro magnetic soul, the e

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M S. And I know, I know that we we

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have limited time, so won't go through the whole explanation

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of how I got to it. But it's based on

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quantum physics that everything's made of molecules, which in turn

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are made of atoms, which in turn are composed of electrons, protons,

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and neutrons, which in turn are composed of the smallest particle,

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which is a quantum. Quantum is pure electromagnetic energy, and

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that means everything in our material universe, the three of

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us the chairs were sitting on the air, were breathing

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the light we're seeing. The rings of Saturn and beyond

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are all at the subatomic level made of the same energy,

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which is electromagnetic energy, which is a quantum. And people

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say to me, well, God, that's really hard to wrap

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my head around. You think it did take Albert Einstein

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yeels for Louis de Broglen, max playing Verder Heisenbergers, even hawking,

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you know, to figure this out. So if you're having

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a hard time grasping that, hey, that's okay. And the

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thing is, we know from neuroscience, the study of the

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human brain, that the brain, although it's only two percent

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of the body's weight, uses twenty percent of its electromagnetic energy.

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So the brain did not create the soul, it merely

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hosts it. And that we can analogize it to a

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computer hard drive. Your computer hard drive didn't create the

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Windows program or whatever else you have running on it.

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It only hosts it. So we know from faith, every

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belief system, there's another one to answer your question, Kieren,

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that the soul who and what we are, which in

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terms of science we call consciousness, We call it the

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soul spirit or consciousness pre exists, the body comes into

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the body, moves on after the body dies. So I

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created the term electro magnetic soul to describe what we

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really are, which is a soul, that is pure consciousness,

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which is eternal electromagnetic energy. And my dear friend and colleague,

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doctor Gary Schwartz from the University of Arizona, the Laboratory

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of Advanced Health and Consciousness working with him on the

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Soul Phone project, actual technology to communicate with spirits, he

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said recently at the Helping Parents Heal conference. I was

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so honored. In his presentation, he brought up a slide

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of my book The Afterlife Frequency and the term electromagnetic soul,

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and he said, let's look at soul as an acronym

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for the source of universal love. So to answer your

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question directly, Karen, yes, love the promise when you ask

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the lawyer what time it is, we tend to tell

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you how to both o'clock or in my case, I

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tend to explain quantum physics. Right.

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No, I love it, but it is completely about my alley.

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And as a very wise stage is one said all.

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You need is love.

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So you bet.

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Now mark to your point, we are very short on time.

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But we would be remiss if we didn't talk about books,

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because you are a prolific author, most if not all,

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of which, like you mentioned, can be found at the

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Eger Casey Bookstore. So we urge you to take a

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deep dive into that. But if someone wanted to dive

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into your plethora of work, you already mentioned the afterlife frequency.

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You've mentioned never Letting Go.

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Yeah, so what where would you feel someone should start

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to get the wisdom of Mark Anthony?

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It depends on what you're going through. I wrote my

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first book, Never Letting Go, because it's a guide on

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the journey through grief, and it's when you're in that shock. See, there's,

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as doctor Elizabeth Coogler Ross said, there's five stages of grief,

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but there's also two phases, shock and trauma. Shock is

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when the death has just happened and you're trying to

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process it. I can't believe it. I can't believe it.

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It feels like you're outside of your body. I mean,

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you can't eat that last couple weeks up to a month,

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and then when that fades, the trauma sets in. And

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that's what we have to cope with for the rest

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of our lives and Never Letting Go will help you

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get through that. When it was on the Never Letting

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Go tour, people kept asking questions, is there a God,

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is reincarnation reels or a soul? Do animals have souls?

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What happens to people who die by suicide? And so

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I made an outline of those questions, and that became

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the genesis, if you will, for my second book, Evidence

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of Eternity, which I'm honored to say was up for

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a Pulitzer Prize.

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Yeah, Evidence of Eternity was so well received, and then

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I kept hearing from people were at conferences and people

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emailing me and calling into shows. They said, we want

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to know more about the science. And that's when my

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mail audience increased exponentially. And so I wrote The Afterlife Frequency,

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which bridges the divide between science and faith. And trust me, everybody,

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when you read my books, I know it sounds like

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Evidence of Eternity and the Afterlife Frequency. Please do not

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expect a dry treatise. I suffered through enough boring books

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in the practice of law. I promise I will not

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do that too. Yes, I do explain the science, but

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everything is illustrated by gripping, fast moving and sometimes very

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funny stories because spirits can be hilarious. They can be

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very funny. You know, we expect them like the Michelangelo

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paining they're all wandering around playing harps, like, oh, they're

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on a higher vibrational frequency. And the electromagnetic soul, that's

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what we are once we leave our body. It's pure energy.

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Energy doesn't get old, it doesn't get sick, it doesn't

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get tired, it doesn't die. So they're always happy. We're

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the ones that are experiencing misery, sadness, and grief, and

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they do understand that, and that's why they come through.

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And the important thing to keep in mind with all

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my books and with spirit communication is that spirits are

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not here to scare us. They're not here to control us.

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They're here to bring messages of love, healing, protection, and resolution.

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And that's how you know the difference between a message

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from spirits a message from the divine or the human ego.

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And we see a lot in the media and I'm

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not getting political here, but when I hear the media

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talk about terrorists or their spiritual advisors who told them

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to fly planes in a building and blow up things. No,

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none of those those messages came from the divine. Those

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are messages from the human ego, which can also be

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thought of edging God out. And think about it. Whenever

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you've done anything unkind or cruel to another person, were

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you acting out of love? Remember we were talking about

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love just few minutes ago, and be nice. That's what

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the great avatars Jesus, Muhammad, Buddha, Krishna, we're talking about.

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When you're acting out of ego. Me me, me, me me,

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center of the universe. Hate hate hate. That has nothing

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to do with spirituality or the divine. So that's the

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difference true messages from the divine and from the spirits

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that are an extension of that. It's all about love.

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But I love that such a vitally important message that

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you just said right there. If you take nothing else

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from this interview, please just listen to Marx's words, because

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there is so much in there. If you're not coming

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at someone else from love, if you're coming out someone

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else from fear or anger, you're not in your divinity.

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And that is the biggest takeaway because it's being unfortunately

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misrepresented right now in this day and age, and the

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most important thing right now is to get back to

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who we are and who we're supposed to be.

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And that's so true because you know, we talk about

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how love is is almost an instinct. You're born with

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love from love, but you learn hate, you learn fear.

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You put yeah, yeah, put a group of little kids together, okay,

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you know, like you're a little toddlers together. It doesn't

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matter what race they are. They all play together.

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Yeah.

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You know. They may say, well, your skin's darker than mine.

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They may ask, but they're not like, oh, I don't

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like you because your skin's darker, or I don't like

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you because your skin's lighter. They may ask, but it's

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not going to be an issue. They may say, well

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you're you're kind of chubby and I'm skinny, or vice versa,

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because they play together. And you're absolutely right, Karen. As

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children grow older, we teach them to hate, you know.

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And the thing is, if people were left alone, we

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wouldn't hate. It's we get you know, politics and people

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in control, ego driven personality lead us down the path

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of hatred. And and the thing is, as humans, humanity

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is a constant work in progress. And when you look

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at the world we're in dire straits, we're very close

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to maybe World War three, but we don't have to

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be right, and the choice is ours.

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Yes, thank you, Mark. That is a perfect place to

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end the interview for now. The biggest my biggest regret

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is that we don't have at least four hours to

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sit here and talk to you, because I feel like

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I could, we could just continue the conversation whatever. You

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are a plethora, a wealth of information and knowledge. If

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and if you had any doubts after hearing or watching

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this interview that Mark's books wouldn't be incredibly entertaining, I'm

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sure you're just not paying attention because you can tell

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how entertaining and how much fun he has been to

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talk to us. Yeah, so, Mark, thank you so much

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for coming on the show.

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Really appreciate you.

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We urge you if you're interested in finding out more

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about Mark Anthony Mark, what's the best place for someone

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to reach out to you.

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Certainly my website which is afterlifefrequency dot com, and I

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invite you to sign up for my newsletter. You can

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watch my live stream show every Thursday, and you can

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the doc. My co host, doctor Pappacili, is a world

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her expertise in psychology the full meaning of the messages.

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And I invite everyone to visit afterlifefrequency dot com. And

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I want to thank both of you, Karen and Will

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and everybody at AAR And it is such an honor

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to be a presenter at the are conferences. I'm so

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looking forward to the Ancient Mysteries Conference and not only presenting,

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but also seeing the presentations of my esteemed colleagues. We

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you go to Edgarcase dot org and thank you everybody,

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and God bless.

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You and a huge thank you to you.

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Until then, take care,