Bonus Episode: World Awakenings Feed Drop

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Hey there, it's Will. Thanks
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in raising the consciousness of humanity.
Now today's shows a full episode from World

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Awakenings, and this time we've cheated
a little bit, since Carl Gruber,

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the host of World Awakenings, graciously
invited us to guests on his show.

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What we Thought, We'd shared that
episode on our feet so you could get

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a little more insight into us at
the same time as you listen to the

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wonderful World Awakenings podcast. Now direct
links to his show, both audio and

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video are in our show notes,
So please feel free to connect with Carl

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directly on whatever platform you most resonate
with and let them know that we said

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hello. Now, without further ado, here is World Awakenings. This is

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World Awakenings, the Fast Track to
Enlightenment With your host, Carl Gruber.

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World Awakenings is a podcast dedicated to
opening your mind, your heart, and

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your eyes to the fact that the
world's population is now more than ever awakening

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to all things spiritual, metaphysical,
and enlightening and just how they play an

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all important role in our daily life. So join Carl on this enlightening experience

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as he interviews metaphysical and spiritual experts
to discuss, debate, and delve deeply

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into the house and why of this
worldwide awakening. Hi everyone, my name

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is Carl Drewber and this is the
podcast World awaken It's the Fast Track to

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Enlightenment. With episode number one oh
nine of this show, today, we're

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going to take a deep dive into
the main topics of this podcast, spirituality,

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metaphysics, and enlightenment as we meet
up with two of my fellow podcasters

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and enlightenment seekers Will Rodriguez and Karen
Ensley, the co host of the podcast

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called The Skeptic Metaphysician. By the
way, stick around till the end of

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copy of my e book The Three
Pillars. So welcome, Will and Karen.

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Thanks for having us called exciting well
you know it really is, and

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you know, just quickly before I
dive in a little bit further here,

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first. But yeah, Will Rodriguez, Karen Nziley, this is so awesome

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to have you two on a show
now before we dive into your podcasts,

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The Skeptic Metaphysicians, and it's so
cool to have you guys on. But

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both of us being podcasts, I
know you guys both have careers in television,

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so let's find out more about you. Tell us about that, Karen,

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No, I was gonna say you
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I'm I've been in television my entire
career, I would say for the most

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part, except for a little stint
beforehand, but I'm currently build as an

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executive producer. I oversee the regional
content in the state. I live in

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Virginia for a national TV network that's
owned by Cox, and I basically what

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that means. It's a fancy way
of saying I create programs and then hand

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them off to someone else to run
on daily bas basically that works out pretty

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well, Dang, Karen. So
I had a slightly different career path that

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I was a teacher for a while, I ran a real estate investment company,

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and then he roped me in the
television world. I have it to

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do in that, don't speed?
You're so darn cute. Yeah. So

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I started in front of the camera
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Heart, and then launched into a
travel show as well called Destination Virginia,

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where we check out all the fun
and cool things that the state has to

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offer. And I also work behind
the camera. So I produced things,

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um a little bit of I'm a
producer director, I'm a floor manager for

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a weekly show, and yeah,
that's that's what we're doing. And she's

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unbelievably creative. She's such a great
producer. I can't even imagine how she's

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not been in this career before.
Now she's so good, she's such a

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natural. It's incredible. There's an
unsolicited endorsement right there, Karen, But

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you know that that's awesome. Um, I understand you. I live in

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Virginia, so that's very cool that
you do a show that is broadcast throughout

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Virginia. My experience is running them
the marathon in uh in Virginia Beach.

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Oh yeah, the Shamrock Marathon,
which should be this weekend. It is

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this weekend as a matter of fact. Yeah. I The only time I

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run is if someone's chasing me and
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Well that's true, that's true.
Well, well, so you two.

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You know, it's funny because we're
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also both been on broadcasting. I
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in radio, not TV for twenty
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and so here we both merged into
podcasting. So so I'm guessing you

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know, going from TV to podcasting
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Yes and no. When we first
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be a show. It was like
everybody else. During COVID, we had

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a really hard time of it,
and I had especially hard time because at

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the time that COVID was hitting,
I was being forced to face some demons

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that are inside myself that I was
not happy about. So it caused me

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to go through that whole dark Knight
of the soul process. And during it,

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I would take my phone. I
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would read a passage that touched me
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phone and just start free associating into
my phone while I was recording it.

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And I would then as a way
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the universe as me acknowledging the changes
I needed to do and things like that,

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I would put it out there on
a private It wasn't private. It

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was actually a podcast. This is
how this started, but there weren't a

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lot of people listening to it.
I wasn't publicizing it, wasn't marketing it

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at all because this was really for
me, and a little by little it

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morphed. It changed into then me
going beyond conversations with God and diving into

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different modalities to see what else is
out there, what else do I need

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to know? What else will help
me handle these things I'm going through right

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now. So sort of interviewing different
people that were raiky practitioners or psychics or

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things like that, and it became
the skeptic metaphysician singular. So you were

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interviewing them just on your own for
your own information, and then it morphed

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in a podcast exactly exactly. And
there was a time after I had made

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some progress, right, we're all
ongoing progress, We're gonna be having We're

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gonna be working on ourselves for our
entire life, right and then and then

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some I've and I've acknowledged that,
but there was a point where I felt

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better, I knew the path I
was on I was working on myself took

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place where I felt more comfortable.
So we were going to As you know,

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podcasting takes a lot of work,
a lot of work, and at

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the time I was doing everything myself, finding the guests, myself, doing

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interviews, editing, marketing, everything
was I was doing myself, and it

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was taking a lot of time away
from my family. So we were going

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to close the show we're going to
shutter it, and as we were doing

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it, we happened to run across
Apple Podcasts. Well, I googled it

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the last day there you go,
because I wantestly I've been putting all this

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work into it. I'm like,
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I googled it and then we happened
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didn't even know existed of your show, of our show, and everyone was

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a five star review and people had
written paragraphs about the show. And the

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one that touched us the most was
someone wrote about how this podcast was his

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constant source of surrender and inspiration on
his Phoenix process, and we thought,

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wow, we had no idea that
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And at that point we were like, we can't quit this. If

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this is helping one person and really
helping one person, then we have to

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continue with it. Fortunately, after
that, Will found some really great software

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that helped cut his editing time down
in half. It was meant to be

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because we did get that family time
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the podcast. Wow, that's uh, that's really interesting that you could have,

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you know, and I agree with
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one effect on one single person in
a positive manner, it really is worth

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it. But but that's hard to
see, you know, in the distance.

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You know, what's what's the old
analogy? If butterfly flaps its wings

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on shores in Japan, does it
produce a tidal wave on the coast of

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California. We don't know, but
it does happen, and that is really

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beautiful. So um, well for
you, what about you two? First

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of all, Karen, did how
did you let Will talk you into be

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on the co host? Talk to
me in so much? I don't even

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know. I was cute, right, Yeah, I was just thinking about

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this when he was talking about this. I'm like, when did I start?

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Like? Why did you? How? How did this happen? But

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he asked me to join him.
I don't remember when or why do you

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remember? Yeah, we brought you
in because we were having the bananas on

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our show, and so friends of
ours from Orlando. We live in Orlando,

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Florida. She was a radio DJ
for a long time radio personality and

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she had a spiritual awakening of her
own when they went to Africa and we

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brought her and her husband on to
talk and she's a she's a quite a

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plegic. She actually was in the
Olympics, Paralympics. I mean, she's

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she's she's not him lighting like you
name it. It's incredible, remarkable woman.

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So we brought her and her husband
on the show to talk, and

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because we knew them, I'm invited
Karen to come on as a guest host

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for that episode. Carl, we
had so much fun. It was such

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an amazingly wonderful conversation that I would
invite her all the time to be a

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guest host again because it was It
changed the dynamic of the show so completely.

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Meat is so much more dynamics,
so much more engaging, so much

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more fun to listen to and to
be part of that. At one point,

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I said, you cannot not be
a co host on the show,

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So then we rebranded to the Skeptic
Metaphysicians. Yeah, maybe I better get

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a co host. No, you
do great on your own, Carl.

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I have sixteen pound cat named Maya. Maybe she can help it, maybe

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you Oh yeah, perfect, She
doesn't push stuff off that the microphone off.

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Well, you you mentioned you went
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I'll tell you. I think everybody
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I mean, just a couple of
weeks ago, I was I was having

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a you know that type of episode, and I send a message to a

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text to one of my colleagues and
I said, yeah, going through this

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blah blah. But she goes,
oh, so you're humaning, and I

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go, oh, yeah, unfortunately, really good at humanings. Yeah,

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that's a great point. I think, in fact, we're going through something

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like that right now where we are
truly humany. We're going through an experience

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that's making us remember a few experiences
actually. Yeah. But you know,

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this is one of the reasons why
we chose to pursue this with the missions

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of Spirituality, metaphysics and Enlightenment is
to find out how do we come out

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of that that dark Knight of the
soul type of thing. And it's really

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good. But you know, I
do have the excuse me have one question.

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Um, you guys are a husband
and wife team. You mean evidently

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you have so fun never any issues
on that sometimes with this podcast. Oh

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that's probably one issue. Well,
um, it's not. It's not untrue,

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he says. Basically, I just
come in talk and leave. So

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and he's doing all the technical work, and you know, but yeah,

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yeah, I am. I am. It's not that I'm low tech.

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I'm no tech, so you don't
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There's funny because I do professional race
announcing for marathons and triathlons and that

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type of thing, and one of
the local race event promoters has hired me

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for many races, and you know, I come and agree everything set up.

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I grabbed the mic, I talked
for three or four hours or whatever,

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and then I leave and he calls
me, Mike drop Carl, where's

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my check? Very good, Mike
drop Karen's check. But to go into

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it, into the answer a little
bit more fully, more succinctly, she

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and I actually don't agree, don't
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our belief system things. Yeah,
And I think that's what makes it so

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good, because we are giving each
other the freedom to know that there are

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different paths and my path is different
in her path, and it's perfectly acceptable

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for us to have different paths.
It's when I hit her, what are

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you crazy? That's when you're in
the room. You know you can't do

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that. Yeah, it's gone from
really trying to convince each other or persuade

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each other to just trying to help
each other learn how we see things.

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Yes, you don't have to believe
my way, but but really this is

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how I feel, and I just
want you to understand how I feel or

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how I see things. Yeah,
and that's made all the difference and the

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keys to accept it, you know, yea, yeah, you know what

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many ways that makes you a good
team too. But I just one quick

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question that one guest you said that
came up. She's a paraplegic, a

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lumpian. You said the show was
about bananas. Not sorry, nor is

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faster her radio her radio personality is
it was Jenna Banana. It's the Bananas

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because it's Jason and Jana Banana,
but it's it's the last name is Shelfer.

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But we called them bananas because of
that internally in fact, Oh my

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god, I hope they'll listen to
this show because I don't know we called

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the bananas. But they're wonderful people, they really are. We love them.

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And so that's it was really about
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some serious issues with what she was
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with her career, and they went
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a safari and remember she's in a
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of friction between the two of them
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she didn't want to do a lot
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like, I'm not going. So
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his money, I'm going. I'll
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went and she stayed in the tent. Yes um. At one point she

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heard the diswakee talkies and she woke
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do not move. What the heck
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someone to her wheelchair and she as
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and she is completely surrounded by a
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if right in front of her is
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babies. But she and this baby
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they just stood there her in the
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wheelchair, in her wheelchair, face
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just looked at each other. They
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the elephants just turned around and started
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along. Yeah. Yeah, and
that brush with nature was what she needed

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to connect her to understand that we
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energetic connectivity. Yeah, and wow, that was That's just awesome.

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So well, you know, I've
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I've been watching and listening to your
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does for you? I mean,
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and finding and understanding, but what
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Karen Um It means the woo will
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on our podcast. Like we both
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from different points of view. He
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it, the quantum theory, and
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all. So I think in our
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two things that you can't necessarily see
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We know that science will never be
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because the act of looking for answers
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found that when we were doing quantum
mechanics and we were looking for the very

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smallest particle available. The minute we
found the smallest particle that exists, we

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look closer and we find that there's
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act of us looking for that answer
it manifests into oh he wants they want

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to keep looking for the smallest thing, Well, let's keep giving them smaller

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and smaller so they have they can
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works, right. The more you
want it, the more the universe is

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going to go Okay, let's make
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when you're trying to manifest things.
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tools that you use to reach spirituality. Spirituality is what we are all trying

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to achieve enlightenment. Metaphysics is the
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success in achieving enlightenment or a spirituality. And that's what made it palatable for

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Will. Yes, yes, he
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I'm different. I grew up in
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say if you say to me I'm
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okay, tell me more. I'm
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skeptic. Right, But to the
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have more of a feel for it, and Will wants more of the scientific

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into it is that for all of
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you know that there is another realm, in the unseen realm, where we're

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connected to all that is in the
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twenty five years. Quantum physics is
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but you know, just different wording, but saying the same thing. So

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these two are traveling parallel to each
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it is science is supporting what the
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very long all of mankind. And
I think that's why you and Karen and

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I we can do this now.
If we had, you know, even

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though podcasts didn't exist, you know, one hundred hundred and fifty years ago,

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if we had done this, we
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stake as which is there something the
people have the desire to know? And

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science is coming in kicking and screaming, because I just read an article last

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week that talked about the fact that
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be life after death. I just
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much evidence on the contrary. Quantum
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way about how there can't not be
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God's sakes, you can't destroy energy, and yet scientists are still going nolah

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blah oh. And that's exactly how
they sound too, exactly West Well on

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that, well, I have so
many questions about I love what you guys

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do, now will I've heard you
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number of times that you actually joined
a witch's coven just to find out more

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and experienced it at all. How
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find a coven on? What was
that? Like? You know? No

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one's ever asked me that question.
That's a great question. I just googled

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them. No that I did not
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they are super secretive. In fact, I joined this coven when I was

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living in Florida and I was a
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and I would take I got raiky
certified there, and I took different

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classes there. And as I spent
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meeting people that were frequenters there as
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really looking into all kinds of things. I looked into every religion imaginable.

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Wicca is the coven. The witchcraft
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for me it was natural to explore
that too. And they've got all these

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books in this bookstore about witchcrafts.
I started reading them, and as I'm

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checking out with these books, the
owner of the store who's checking me out

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looking at me right, And every
time I would come up with another book

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on witchcraft, she'd look at me
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this friendliness I have lack of a
better word. I was going to the

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rapport were I was going to these
events all the time. I was obviously

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expressing an interest in Wicca. And
at one point, as we were just

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talking coundubal conversation, she said,
I can't help but notice that you're interested

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in witchcraft. Is there something that
you're specifically looking for? And I explained,

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I'm just looking to things, and
she said, well, you know,

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there's a group that I know that
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time was either Swan or Winter Solstice, some some ritual and they said.

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She said, I if you want
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I'm sure I can get you an
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as it turns out, she was
the high priestess of the coven. And

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because they're so secretive, they're very
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they invite you to come to some of

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the rituals so that the members who
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coven because they don't tell you that

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that you're just they're appreciating this ritual
with them, and a little by little

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they all decide yes, yes,
yes, yes, and they extended invitation

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and they did, and they extend
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there was four other people that were
neophytes that were initiated. Well. And

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then you have to go through a
period of a year and a day where

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you've got to be learning all the
things about Wicca and all they go to,

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the all the rituals that they do, and you to, at least

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in our coven, we had to
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we wore in the rituals things,
because you're putting your own energy into it.

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I mean, there's everything that they
do, wait you can sell.

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I cannot. That's why I'm no
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it was. My robe was woeful. It was well, it was

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terrible. But but they think it's
important. Everything that they do there's a

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reason for it. You're imbuing your
energy into these things. You have tools.

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They have athems, which are big
knives. That's what people think witchcraft

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is devil worship and sting because they
use tools that are specifically meant to focus

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your energy into things. So they
teach you some of these things for that

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year and a day before they initiate
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the good stuff comes in. But
not until then, not until then.

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So your robe said Miami dolphins on
the bed. It probably should have.

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I probably would have been better taking
a jersey and repurposed it. But now,

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so I'm curious. This was before
you started a podcast, so on

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your own personal seeking. Yeah.
So, so many people with a religious

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background of Christianity or whatever would say, well, isn't that the dark side?

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I mean, is that an appropriate
description. It's not. It's not.

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In fact, just the opposite.
Witchcraft is white magic. It is

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all light. There are covens that
are focused on the dark. I understand

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that most Wicca all it is.
It's an earth based religion. They worship

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nature and there the moon is their
goddess. At least in this coven,

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the moon was our goddess. And
there was the god of the hunt who

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happens to have antlers. And we
shouldn't get into the conversation of where Karen

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knows. I would love to take
it. But a certain pope decided to

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make it evil devil, and he
dragged people kicking and screaming to burn people

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at the stake because they were doing
things that that was contrary to what that

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particular pope wanted them to do.
It's unfortunate at the time it was very

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fear based. Not a lot has
changed, but it was really fear based

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at the time, and a lot
of people suffered for it because of it.

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Exactly, Well, we could we
could do another entire show just on

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what organized religion has done for to
mankind throughout all of history. So but

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we'll say that for another show.
Wow. So um, that is pretty

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amazing. In one thing, I'm
going to go back to the shows that

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we do and the guests that we
have, and I have to ask you

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this because I know both you guys
and myself had have had some pretty amazing

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guests on What is one of the
wildest experiences and guests that you have had

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on your show? Can you define
wild? Wild, goood or wild bad?

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A lot of different directions? Memorable, caring well, which one?

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Which one? Are we thinking the
same guy? We are? We had

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a guest whom we introduced him through
his work and books and whatnot, and

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pretty much the first statement that he
made was I am the Light. So

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meeting someone that you know, that's
his belief is that every living creature on

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the world will go through him,
oh when they die. So that was

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very That was a very very interesting
interview. Where do you go from that?

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You're the light? Okay? And
you didn't say anything about this in

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the pre interview, right and we're
talking beforehand, he didn't mention anything like

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that he was a spirit medium.
He was. He had said some things

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to me before we started ring that
made me go, oh, this guy

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might know what he's talking about.
And then as soon as we started recording,

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Carl the very first question, he
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that's when you said, okay,
we're done. I mean I probably should

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have. Uh, that's not that's
not fair to say. Who are we

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to say that he's not the light? Yeah, I don't know. All

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I know is that that sounds exhausting. And he told me I'm next,

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and that's a little scary. Yeah. Well, you know, I gotta

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I gotta throw out one for one
of my favorites. Um Um. I've

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had her on my show twice a
channel uh, Christina Hill. Christina Hill

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channels um a Syrian from Serious B, a galactic being called a Fella who

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is a twelve D ascended Master and
she is actually channeled on stage at Carnegie

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Hall with um uh, one of
the famous really themous guys, a couple

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of people. She's actually done it
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my show first with my mentor,
Christy Whitman, who is now a channel

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for a group of ascended masters called
the Council. But so I had Christina

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on my show a channeling for She
was solo channeling Othella and it's she's amazing.

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She is, I mean, it
really is phenomenal light. She just

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lights up the whole screen when she's
channeling in her whole demeanor and speech,

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changes. But the greatest thing was
othellam imitated dolphins. Othella did the channel

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being because dolphins, evidently, according
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They're enlightened beings on earth. And
so if you ever get a chance to

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go check out that episode with Athell
Othella and Christina Hill when you hear in

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a ended master imitating dolphins is well. And that's one of the things I

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want to ask you when we get
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to your show as well, and
you talk to these people that channel these

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incredible beings. You are so present
with them. Whenever we have a channel

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in our show, it takes me
a minute to really get him out my

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head or I like, is this
she put me on because this is a

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little weird. Weird at first,
Yeah, but you are you just right

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00:31:25.920 --> 00:31:29.599
there. You ask these questions and
you have no doubt whatsoever, and that's

407
00:31:29.640 --> 00:31:33.440
wonderful. So I need to know
how you do that because I need to

408
00:31:33.440 --> 00:31:38.079
wrap my head on that's the skeptic
in you. Yeah, I am so

409
00:31:38.200 --> 00:31:42.599
open. My heart and mind is
so open to all of this because you

410
00:31:42.640 --> 00:31:45.880
know my burning question for a long
time, and I believe you have the

411
00:31:45.960 --> 00:31:49.599
same thing as there's got to be
something better than this. You know.

412
00:31:49.680 --> 00:31:55.240
I I rarely ever watch television and
I turn on the TV and there's wars

413
00:31:55.319 --> 00:31:59.559
and rapes and shootings, and I
go, click, go, there's got

414
00:31:59.599 --> 00:32:02.680
to be something and better. So
I'm open to that. And you know,

415
00:32:04.359 --> 00:32:07.559
to me, there's no reason,
I mean, why they can't and

416
00:32:07.079 --> 00:32:09.359
why they don't exist, you know, as a matter of fact, like

417
00:32:09.400 --> 00:32:15.480
we said, we both have had
channels, mediums and members of galactic federations.

418
00:32:15.519 --> 00:32:19.480
So so for you, I mean, I guess you kind of still

419
00:32:19.480 --> 00:32:24.799
maybe that mentality and nothing wrong with
us. But I'll see it when I

420
00:32:24.839 --> 00:32:29.720
believe it, you know. And
I'm on the other end, I'll i'll

421
00:32:30.599 --> 00:32:32.599
I'll believe it. No, wait, I'll see it when I believe it.

422
00:32:34.279 --> 00:32:37.200
Is that it No, Yeah,
I'll see it when I believe it.

423
00:32:37.240 --> 00:32:40.160
That's my part, right, you
have to believe it first. Yeah.

424
00:32:40.200 --> 00:32:44.640
No, you're absolutely right, And
it's something I gotta get better at

425
00:32:44.839 --> 00:32:46.519
for sure, because I do.
I feel uncomfortable, and I called it

426
00:32:46.559 --> 00:32:49.960
out. We had the Juda Collective. I'm not sure if you have heard

427
00:32:49.960 --> 00:32:52.279
the Juda Collective, but it is
a collection of three hundred and fifty thousand

428
00:32:52.279 --> 00:32:55.519
angels that move as one being.
Yeah. I heard some of that.

429
00:32:55.680 --> 00:33:02.440
Yeah, And there's one lady Angie
channel the collective and I called it out

430
00:33:02.480 --> 00:33:07.519
on the show afterwards after she finished
channeling, I was like, I gotta,

431
00:33:07.559 --> 00:33:09.359
I gotta be honest. It was
a little weird for me at first,

432
00:33:09.920 --> 00:33:14.880
but then it became so natural as
we were talking to the collective,

433
00:33:14.880 --> 00:33:17.240
it just became this, Oh my
god, yeah, this is this is

434
00:33:17.319 --> 00:33:23.000
right on. It felt so natural
and so right that it took I suddenly

435
00:33:23.039 --> 00:33:28.000
all my skepticism went out the door. And there's something just so much that

436
00:33:28.039 --> 00:33:30.480
happens in that in that episode.
Uh, if if you haven't seen it,

437
00:33:30.519 --> 00:33:35.400
you gotta check out Karen's reaction the
minute we introduced the collective. But

438
00:33:35.880 --> 00:33:39.839
um, but that's been that's been
the one of the biggest challenges for me.

439
00:33:40.559 --> 00:33:46.000
Um. But one of the most
fun episodes for me that blew my

440
00:33:46.039 --> 00:33:55.279
mind was the reverse Speech episode.
Really Yeah. There's a gentleman in Australia

441
00:33:55.359 --> 00:34:02.359
that has dedicated his life to invest
getting this phenomenon, and he was on

442
00:34:02.400 --> 00:34:07.480
the RT Bell Show. He's been
on he's made the circuits. And remember

443
00:34:07.839 --> 00:34:10.280
back in the eighties when everyone was
all up in arms. When you've played

444
00:34:10.280 --> 00:34:14.280
the record backwards, if you have
these satanic messages and things like that,

445
00:34:14.639 --> 00:34:15.920
Yeah, right, Yeah, that
was a big thing with the Beatles.

446
00:34:15.960 --> 00:34:20.519
Paul's dead. Yeah, and he
s DC you know, like, well,

447
00:34:20.559 --> 00:34:23.079
apparently that's a thing, Like that's
the real thing. And he's dedicated

448
00:34:23.119 --> 00:34:28.039
his life to it. And he
came with a bunch of clips on our

449
00:34:28.039 --> 00:34:34.039
show, and he played them on
our show, and it was remarkable because

450
00:34:34.079 --> 00:34:37.880
it was not like he said pineapple. No, this was like pineapple.

451
00:34:38.039 --> 00:34:42.360
Oh he said pineapple, but he
did say pineapple. Right. You could

452
00:34:42.440 --> 00:34:45.039
definitely see and hear I know what
you can say, Karen, in that

453
00:34:45.119 --> 00:34:49.920
sense, we're swapped. You were
the skeptic and I wasn't. Oh.

454
00:34:50.039 --> 00:34:52.679
He would tell us what to listen
for, too, so that that was

455
00:34:52.719 --> 00:34:55.079
the only thing you could hear them. Sometimes I was like maybe, But

456
00:34:55.119 --> 00:34:59.000
when he told us what to listen
for and you played him, we heard

457
00:34:59.039 --> 00:35:01.039
them very clearly. But I would
have liked to hear them before he told

458
00:35:01.079 --> 00:35:04.239
us what to listen for, well, just to see if we would hear

459
00:35:04.280 --> 00:35:08.320
it on our own. Yeah.
But the gist of it is that he

460
00:35:08.400 --> 00:35:16.000
believes that our spirits are talking to
each other unbeknownst to us, unknown to

461
00:35:16.000 --> 00:35:20.320
our conscious mind. So as we're
choosing the words we're using, the radist

462
00:35:20.360 --> 00:35:24.000
speech at which we're talking, the
inflections that we're using, we are talking

463
00:35:24.199 --> 00:35:29.559
in one direction. And then there's
another layer, a subconscious, deeper layer,

464
00:35:29.800 --> 00:35:34.239
where it's our higher selves talking to
each other in reverse speech and giving

465
00:35:34.280 --> 00:35:42.960
each other messages that cannot be lies. So he played some clips where obviously

466
00:35:43.079 --> 00:35:49.400
politicians that were found to be lying, and the clips said as much way

467
00:35:49.440 --> 00:35:59.280
before it was also found. He
played some clips where very specifically Kennedy had

468
00:35:59.360 --> 00:36:02.960
a premoniship of his own death.
Wow. And when he in his inauguration

469
00:36:04.000 --> 00:36:07.760
speech, he played a backwards for
us and it said my head is hitting

470
00:36:07.840 --> 00:36:13.280
the car side of the car,
and it was very clear. That was

471
00:36:13.320 --> 00:36:17.760
clear. Yes, well, you
know, I many people believe, in

472
00:36:17.760 --> 00:36:23.079
including myself, that there are way
more subliminal messages that are fed to the

473
00:36:23.280 --> 00:36:29.199
entire population of the world than anybody
really wants to believe. Whether you know,

474
00:36:29.760 --> 00:36:34.400
you want to think of it as
a conspiracy theory or whatever, but

475
00:36:34.519 --> 00:36:39.400
you know, and it definitely flows
through the media. Visual imagery definitely has

476
00:36:39.440 --> 00:36:45.159
a play almost on the level of
a hypnotic type of entrainment. So but

477
00:36:45.400 --> 00:36:51.000
you know, again there's another whole
show we can do too. But wow,

478
00:36:51.119 --> 00:36:55.480
that's and you know, really,
I think this is why we are

479
00:36:55.519 --> 00:37:01.880
doing these shows, because the bottom
line is we're curious personal seekers ourselves.

480
00:37:01.880 --> 00:37:05.519
But what we're doing and I was
going to ask this question, do you

481
00:37:05.559 --> 00:37:08.880
feel that your show on my show
or shows like it are making a positive

482
00:37:08.960 --> 00:37:13.719
difference in the world, And I
think we really are. I do too.

483
00:37:13.760 --> 00:37:15.639
In fact, we just got what
I think is my favorite review so

484
00:37:15.679 --> 00:37:19.079
far. So now we get a
message when we get a new one,

485
00:37:19.119 --> 00:37:22.199
and we always loved to read them, but we got one last week from

486
00:37:22.239 --> 00:37:25.880
a guy who's a UPS driver,
and so he was talking about how he's

487
00:37:25.920 --> 00:37:30.199
driving along the road and he's been
binge listening to all of the shows and

488
00:37:31.159 --> 00:37:35.119
the only problem he had was that
there weren't more shows because he's already listened

489
00:37:35.159 --> 00:37:38.840
to most of them. He only
had a few left. He's not but

490
00:37:39.880 --> 00:37:43.440
he you know, he said he'd
been interested in this stuff, that he

491
00:37:43.480 --> 00:37:45.599
didn't really have any friends that he
could talk to about it. But he

492
00:37:45.800 --> 00:37:50.639
ended the review with a statement that
to me is like this is our he

493
00:37:50.719 --> 00:37:52.880
is summing up what our goal is
and he said, thank you for helping

494
00:37:52.880 --> 00:37:58.760
me to feel normal. And I
think so many people are starting to have

495
00:37:58.840 --> 00:38:01.480
these experiences or opening their eyes and
their hearts and their minds to everything that's

496
00:38:01.519 --> 00:38:06.320
happening, but it's still so fringe. I mean, it's growing, but

497
00:38:06.360 --> 00:38:09.119
it's still fringe. So I think
putting the podcasts that we're all doing out

498
00:38:09.119 --> 00:38:15.280
there and spreading these messages of acceptance
is helping people to feel more normal and

499
00:38:15.280 --> 00:38:19.159
to be able to talk about it
and ultimately that you know, word of

500
00:38:19.199 --> 00:38:21.920
mouth, it's gonna spread, and
it's gonna spread and you know, raise

501
00:38:21.960 --> 00:38:24.280
the overall vibrations in the sense of
community and the feelings of support that we're

502
00:38:24.280 --> 00:38:30.239
trying to do well. I think
many of us deal on a personal relationship

503
00:38:30.320 --> 00:38:35.800
with our circle of friends and family. I know personally, and none of

504
00:38:35.840 --> 00:38:39.880
my family or personal friends are into
what I do. And when I and

505
00:38:39.920 --> 00:38:43.079
they say, oh, you have
a podcast, what is it about it?

506
00:38:43.159 --> 00:38:45.880
I go, well, it's about
spirituality, metaphysics and enlightenment, and

507
00:38:45.960 --> 00:38:51.519
their eyes just kind of glaze over
and I go The cool part is I

508
00:38:51.679 --> 00:38:57.639
now have a circle of colleagues and
friends from around the world that I am

509
00:38:57.639 --> 00:39:00.519
connected with, and it makes me
understan Dan that it is much more,

510
00:39:00.760 --> 00:39:06.639
you know, connectivity throughout the world
than just and that's a big problem.

511
00:39:06.679 --> 00:39:09.280
I think in our personal lives,
so many we don't jive with the people

512
00:39:09.400 --> 00:39:14.119
closest to us. Sometimes you have
to go outside of your circle to expand

513
00:39:14.159 --> 00:39:17.519
and grow. And I think also
COVID kind of shine a spotlight on that

514
00:39:19.159 --> 00:39:22.239
we were forced to be alone and
for some people it was what they needed,

515
00:39:22.280 --> 00:39:24.000
but for so many people they just
realize this, I can't live like

516
00:39:24.039 --> 00:39:29.760
this, And so now I think
there's that need of connectivity in so many

517
00:39:29.800 --> 00:39:32.519
different forms. So I think really
what we're doing is is great. I

518
00:39:32.519 --> 00:39:36.920
mean i'd like to think it is. Yeah. Yeah, Well, you

519
00:39:36.960 --> 00:39:39.079
know, we're gonna wind up in
a little bit. We're talking to Will

520
00:39:39.199 --> 00:39:45.119
Rondriguez Karen Ensley, the host of
the podcast The Skeptic Metaphysician. Just an

521
00:39:45.159 --> 00:39:50.119
awesome show. I highly recommend you
check it out on YouTube and we'll put

522
00:39:50.119 --> 00:39:54.639
the links in the show notes and
also on Apple podcasts and everything else.

523
00:39:54.920 --> 00:39:59.079
You know. I can have a
bit of a heavy question for you here,

524
00:39:59.079 --> 00:40:02.800
and I mean mainly because you've had
guests like I have. Our shows

525
00:40:02.840 --> 00:40:07.840
speak about how humankind in many ways, many of our guests talk about this

526
00:40:07.639 --> 00:40:13.920
humankind is in the midst of a
major transition from three D carbon based physical

527
00:40:13.960 --> 00:40:19.119
existence to a five D crystalline based
existence. What does that even mean?

528
00:40:19.440 --> 00:40:23.559
Do you have you guys touched on
that topic? We did. One of

529
00:40:23.599 --> 00:40:32.760
the wildest shows that we had was
a gentleman who his episode blew up,

530
00:40:32.840 --> 00:40:40.320
completely blew up, because oh that
guy. Yeah, he brought an awareness

531
00:40:40.360 --> 00:40:47.119
to us that we're not just going
into five D, We're going way beyond

532
00:40:47.719 --> 00:40:53.920
and there are star seeds out there
that have volunteered to come here to this

533
00:40:54.119 --> 00:41:00.159
physical plane to help us fight a
war that has been reached for a billion

534
00:41:00.280 --> 00:41:09.559
years against artificial intelligence. And that
surprised me because we've talked a lot of

535
00:41:09.599 --> 00:41:15.360
people, and the point of our
show is for folks that are just learning

536
00:41:15.360 --> 00:41:22.559
about this stuff to feel normal.
But this guy spoke so far over our

537
00:41:22.599 --> 00:41:25.360
heads that I had to stop them
several times and back him up and go,

538
00:41:25.480 --> 00:41:28.679
can you explain this to me in
a way that I'm going to be

539
00:41:28.679 --> 00:41:32.079
able to wrap my head around Because
and of course, he sees a show

540
00:41:32.159 --> 00:41:35.519
like ours, and he believes oh, they must be talking about this stuff

541
00:41:35.519 --> 00:41:40.800
already and you're us because we're not
there yet. And what that showed me

542
00:41:42.440 --> 00:41:47.360
is that everyone is at a different
level of evolution for lack of a better

543
00:41:47.400 --> 00:41:52.480
word, and you're gonna get the
information that you need when you need it.

544
00:41:52.960 --> 00:41:55.840
And I think because we pushed the
issue a little bit with him,

545
00:41:55.920 --> 00:42:01.559
we got too much. So that's
I think the beauty of our shows in

546
00:42:01.599 --> 00:42:07.119
the space that each one is set
up in a different a different place to

547
00:42:07.280 --> 00:42:15.079
give the messages that our listeners are
looking for specifically at that moment. Excuse

548
00:42:15.159 --> 00:42:19.880
me, I don't know much about
the crystalline forms. Yeah, yeah,

549
00:42:19.880 --> 00:42:22.920
and either do I. I've done. All I know is it's part of

550
00:42:22.920 --> 00:42:28.400
our evolution to a higher level and
dimension. You know. What I understand

551
00:42:28.719 --> 00:42:34.239
is that a spiritual awakening or ascend, when we ascend, whatever that means,

552
00:42:35.159 --> 00:42:37.599
it's not what people are thinking.
At least that's the messaging that I'm

553
00:42:37.639 --> 00:42:45.559
getting from people. It's not that
we're going to change into crystalline form,

554
00:42:45.599 --> 00:42:47.440
and maybe we are, I don't
know, But the messages that I'm getting

555
00:42:47.559 --> 00:42:55.360
is that it was misinterpreted. And
you've heard of obviously your manifestation coach.

556
00:42:57.920 --> 00:43:01.440
You've heard about reality transfer thing,
and when we manifest, we make different

557
00:43:01.440 --> 00:43:05.440
decisions, we split off in different
timelines in order that that give us what

558
00:43:05.480 --> 00:43:10.880
we're looking for. Apparently, when
you ascend, it's it's a sense,

559
00:43:10.960 --> 00:43:15.519
it's getting to a vibrational rate that
you're aligned with the universe. Virtual energy

560
00:43:15.639 --> 00:43:20.559
is much better than we are right
now. When you say that the world

561
00:43:20.639 --> 00:43:25.599
is going through a seismic shift,
I wholeheartedly believe that. Yeah. Yeah,

562
00:43:25.639 --> 00:43:31.280
And I think what we're feeling as
a as a civilization is that that

563
00:43:31.400 --> 00:43:36.320
birth, every birth is messy,
is difficult, it is challenging, and

564
00:43:36.360 --> 00:43:38.519
there are people who are digging their
heels going no, no, you can't

565
00:43:38.559 --> 00:43:42.639
make me, and the other half
are going, oh yes, yes,

566
00:43:42.719 --> 00:43:45.320
yes, I want it so badly
that they wanted too badly. Right,

567
00:43:45.599 --> 00:43:50.159
So you're gonna find that middle ground, that sweet spot. Because I went

568
00:43:50.199 --> 00:43:54.320
on a retreat not long ago.
It was it was wonderful because it was

569
00:43:54.360 --> 00:43:59.840
all encompassing of all religions, but
it was very Hindu, and I gotta

570
00:43:59.840 --> 00:44:04.880
tell yeah, I found that these
Hindus, they they really know what's going

571
00:44:04.920 --> 00:44:08.679
on. I started reading The Living
Guida because the messages I was getting was

572
00:44:08.719 --> 00:44:13.440
great. And the reason why I'm
saying is because I found that the message

573
00:44:13.480 --> 00:44:21.159
is just be, just be,
be unattached, don't attach to things.

574
00:44:21.440 --> 00:44:24.920
Just be. The more you can
just be in the moment without expectation,

575
00:44:25.079 --> 00:44:29.880
positive or negative, the easier is
going to be for you to ascend,

576
00:44:30.239 --> 00:44:32.880
for you to find your space.
I had as a guest on my podcast

577
00:44:32.960 --> 00:44:37.320
a few months ago a guy known
as the Bearded Mystic, and he is

578
00:44:37.719 --> 00:44:42.480
a Hindu, and he comes on
and speaks about the bug of a Ghita

579
00:44:42.679 --> 00:44:46.719
and always always the vendanta. And
it was interesting because you know, I'm

580
00:44:46.719 --> 00:44:53.960
coming from North American, you know, spiritual aspect, you know, still

581
00:44:54.079 --> 00:44:59.000
somewhat Christian based, and I'm talking
to him. We had a really interesting

582
00:44:59.079 --> 00:45:01.519
discussion. But you know, I
was going to mention another show that you

583
00:45:01.559 --> 00:45:07.199
guys would really really find interesting in
anybody watching or listening would too. One

584
00:45:07.199 --> 00:45:13.199
of my colleagues, my life coaching
colleagues, Nori Loved and her partner Aggie,

585
00:45:13.239 --> 00:45:16.639
I can't remember his last name.
They have a very popular YouTube channel

586
00:45:16.679 --> 00:45:23.679
called Team Alpha Broadcast and they have
some of the most far out guests on.

587
00:45:24.039 --> 00:45:30.519
They had interview and they have several
thousand subscribers and several thousand views,

588
00:45:30.559 --> 00:45:35.280
and they could do it live on
YouTube. Team Alpha broadcasts and they had

589
00:45:35.559 --> 00:45:38.880
a gentleman on who had returned to
Earth. He was a human who had

590
00:45:38.920 --> 00:45:45.480
been signed a marine detachment to fight
a war going on on Mahars and described

591
00:45:45.519 --> 00:45:52.000
it in intimate detail and how body
parts are blown off and then they regenerated

592
00:45:52.079 --> 00:45:53.079
him. And I mean, this
is the type of thing, you know.

593
00:45:53.119 --> 00:45:57.280
I mean, it's so far out
there, but it's so popular,

594
00:45:57.679 --> 00:46:05.440
and so are our show seem like
tame comparables. Absolutely absolutely. I think

595
00:46:05.519 --> 00:46:09.159
one of the things that we found, Carl is that whatever you're ready for,

596
00:46:09.239 --> 00:46:15.119
you're going to get. And also
you make what your reality is going

597
00:46:15.159 --> 00:46:21.679
to be. A war like that
doesn't seem appealing to me, So in

598
00:46:21.760 --> 00:46:29.079
my reality, it doesn't exist,
because that's just that's that's that's we're trying

599
00:46:29.119 --> 00:46:31.519
to keep everything very positive. And
you know what you just said, We

600
00:46:31.559 --> 00:46:37.280
make our own reality. That is
so in alignment when my spiritual studies and

601
00:46:37.480 --> 00:46:40.960
even the law of attraction, because
what we project out there is what we

602
00:46:42.000 --> 00:46:45.920
see what we believe we create.
Wow, man, we're gonna have to

603
00:46:45.000 --> 00:46:51.119
have one episodes here, But I
don't know, wind up one last thing

604
00:46:51.199 --> 00:46:55.440
here for you. What about you
two? Uh, personally and the way

605
00:46:55.480 --> 00:47:00.559
you look and think about things and
the way you live your life from the

606
00:47:00.639 --> 00:47:05.320
experiences you're have you had on the
show, have you noticed any personal differences

607
00:47:05.360 --> 00:47:13.920
in yourself? Oh? Boy,
go ahead, Karen, I'll talk about

608
00:47:13.920 --> 00:47:21.800
you. Yes, figure it will. Um has become a very much more

609
00:47:21.840 --> 00:47:25.840
centered person. He meditates a lot, and if he doesn't, he must

610
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be sent to go meditate because he's
very different. That's exactly. I'm like,

611
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go just go find a space.
UM. And I think and I

612
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hope that through this process he is
being comforted UM by learning all of these

613
00:47:44.639 --> 00:47:51.719
modalities and the different beliefs and religions
and they're all one, and just understanding

614
00:47:51.760 --> 00:47:55.960
that message. UM. It's it's
been just a beautiful transformation to watch him

615
00:47:57.480 --> 00:48:00.920
become the person he is now.
Yeah, I would agree with that.

616
00:48:00.559 --> 00:48:07.920
I was the typical executive producer right. I was entitled, I was angry,

617
00:48:07.159 --> 00:48:13.239
I was competitive, I was a
despicable human being for most of my

618
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adult life, even some of my
childhood. I've learned that there were reasons

619
00:48:16.960 --> 00:48:22.199
why, and at learning the reasons
why, I was able to process them

620
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and want to make the change,
and that's from undergoing right now. So

621
00:48:24.400 --> 00:48:29.239
it's helped me a lot in that
sense, for sure. And I could

622
00:48:29.320 --> 00:48:32.280
see that you know, well,
you mentioned you're going through a dark night

623
00:48:32.280 --> 00:48:37.800
of the soul a certain part of
your area and your career and stuff right

624
00:48:37.800 --> 00:48:39.960
now, and you can use that
new centeredness to help you through this.

625
00:48:40.360 --> 00:48:45.360
I mean, a classic line is
sometimes we understand that at the time,

626
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what seemed to be possibly the worst
thing that could ever have happened in our

627
00:48:50.880 --> 00:48:53.920
life turned out to be the most
important thing and the best thing that could

628
00:48:53.960 --> 00:49:00.280
ever happen, because the universe leads
us in a direction for our over all

629
00:49:00.320 --> 00:49:02.719
good and the good of all.
And you know, I have a friend

630
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that, when he was younger,
was called in an office office of his

631
00:49:09.079 --> 00:49:15.280
job. He was expecting to get
a raise and a promotion. He came

632
00:49:15.320 --> 00:49:19.360
out he had been fired, and
you know, and he was crying,

633
00:49:19.440 --> 00:49:22.719
and for weeks, you know,
he would and he ended up. He

634
00:49:22.760 --> 00:49:27.159
went off and he bought a farm
and ended up living a life that he

635
00:49:27.239 --> 00:49:30.360
was truly meant it. And if
he had gotten that promotion, he made

636
00:49:30.360 --> 00:49:34.320
have stayed there for forty years depressed
and said, you know, and so

637
00:49:34.400 --> 00:49:37.719
there's a real good example the worst, what seemed to be the worst thing

638
00:49:37.760 --> 00:49:42.800
could end up being the most positive, loving thing, absolutely, no question

639
00:49:42.920 --> 00:49:50.679
whatsoever. The challenges that we're still
humanity, and so it's hard sometimes to

640
00:49:50.920 --> 00:49:52.800
maintain your center when you go into
some of these things. So you have

641
00:49:52.840 --> 00:49:55.880
to. It's a constant reminder.
But yeah, it's the more I remind

642
00:49:55.920 --> 00:49:59.679
myself, the more I meditate,
the more I remember, and the more

643
00:49:59.719 --> 00:50:04.000
I can keep myself centered and help
those that are are affected by some of

644
00:50:04.039 --> 00:50:07.320
the decisions I've made. Yeah,
and as I said earlier, we're humaning.

645
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We're way too good at it.
Yes, well, this is just

646
00:50:13.039 --> 00:50:15.719
great. On Karen's side, I
would be remiss if I didn't mention this,

647
00:50:15.800 --> 00:50:23.119
and she's going to hate me right
now. But so I think we

648
00:50:23.199 --> 00:50:29.760
are blossoming. We have a blossoming
channel in our midst because I will.

649
00:50:29.880 --> 00:50:36.519
I'm going to reveal it here since
the Judah collective, Karen is undergoing his

650
00:50:36.599 --> 00:50:43.719
spiritual awakening. The minute we stop
that interview, she experienced an a change,

651
00:50:43.920 --> 00:50:47.840
a manifestation that she can't explain.
I can't explain. It was a

652
00:50:49.199 --> 00:50:52.960
it was a palpable difference. And
now every once in a while, that

653
00:50:53.159 --> 00:51:00.960
same thing happens and something will come
through that is ownding. So you ask

654
00:51:00.039 --> 00:51:05.159
if it's changed us, Yes,
I think we both have changed exponentially because

655
00:51:05.159 --> 00:51:09.320
I believe that now there have been
several different guests on our show that have

656
00:51:09.440 --> 00:51:15.440
called out the fact that Karen is
angelic. She's an angel living on this

657
00:51:15.480 --> 00:51:17.199
planet. I've been telling her that
for a long time, but now it's

658
00:51:17.239 --> 00:51:22.199
not just me. Now it's psychic
mediums. It's people who know this stuff

659
00:51:22.360 --> 00:51:25.800
that are saying there's a lot going
on in you, Karen, and have

660
00:51:25.920 --> 00:51:30.639
called it out. And now this
end, this angel is starting to emerge.

661
00:51:30.639 --> 00:51:34.400
It's it's coming out. And I
don't know if the folks who've been

662
00:51:34.400 --> 00:51:38.159
watching have been noticing, but every
once in a while, Karen's face changes,

663
00:51:38.559 --> 00:51:43.639
it becomes this something else, and
I'm noticing it. And every time

664
00:51:43.639 --> 00:51:46.320
I notice it, I kind of
want to see if you notice, because

665
00:51:46.800 --> 00:51:51.840
she takes this takes on this thing, this look that happens every time.

666
00:51:52.039 --> 00:51:55.440
It's astounding, it's incredible. So
I thought, you look kind of angelic,

667
00:51:55.840 --> 00:52:00.280
Karen, when you're hanging around with
three hundred fifty thousand angels. You

668
00:52:00.320 --> 00:52:06.519
know, they're by keeps just phenomenal
guys. Thank you, thank you,

669
00:52:06.559 --> 00:52:09.280
thank you for being on World Awakenings. So grateful to know you guys.

670
00:52:09.639 --> 00:52:15.760
How and where can people find the
Skeptic meta Physician and maybe contact you if

671
00:52:15.800 --> 00:52:20.920
they would like to. The best
place is our website, Skeptic Metaphysician dot

672
00:52:20.920 --> 00:52:24.039
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673
00:52:24.079 --> 00:52:29.199
Instagram it's Skeptic Metaphysician Podcast. Probably
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675
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676
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677
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678
00:52:39.760 --> 00:52:43.559
So yeah, that's probably the one
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679
00:52:44.079 --> 00:52:46.519
Yeah. Well, thank you guys, thank you for being on World Awakenings.

680
00:52:46.599 --> 00:52:50.079
What a blast, Thank you,
We had a great time. Thanks

681
00:52:50.119 --> 00:52:53.920
for all appreciate it. Hey everyone, Carl Gruver here, thank you so

682
00:52:54.000 --> 00:52:58.000
much for sticking around to the end
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683
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great conversation with Will and Earn from
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684
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689
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696
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This has been another episode of World
Awakenings, the Fast Track to Enlightenment with

697
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698
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699
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