Develop Your Psychic Abilities. 5th Generation Psychic Medium Shows You How
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What if your intuition has been trying to talk to you your entire life. and you just never learned how to listen?

In this episode, we sit down with Dallisa Hocking, a 5th generation psychic medium, educator, and founder of Spirit & Spark, for a conversation that turns the entire psychic world on its head. Because unlike most people in her field, Dallisa is not here to tell you what's coming. Her whole mission is teaching you how to develop your own psychic abilities so you never have to outsource your inner knowing to anyone again.

What she calls "inner literacy" ...the ability to trust your own perception, recognize patterns, and navigate life from within... is not a gift reserved for a lucky few. It is a practical, learnable skill. And in this episode, she shows you exactly how to start building it.

We cover a lot of ground. Dallisa shares the overnight spiritual awakening in 2015 that flipped her life from dating coach to 5th generation psychic medium, why clairsentience may be the most common and most misunderstood psychic ability, how to raise your vibration in 30 days using nothing more than meditation and morning pages, the difference between genuine intuition and fear dressed up as a gut feeling, how to set psychic hygiene boundaries so spirit is not waking you up at 3am, what recurring dreams are really trying to tell you, and the premonition she posted to Instagram days before a fatal helicopter and airplane collision in Washington DC.

She also takes live audience questions from around the world. and answers a few things for Will and Karen that had us both a little speechless.

If you have ever been told you are too sensitive, struggled to trust your own inner guidance, or wondered whether your psychic abilities are real, this one was made for you.

This episode is part of our ongoing exploration of consciousness, spiritual awakening, and the science of the unexplained. If you are new here, welcome. This is exactly what we do.

🌐 Visit Dallisa at SpiritAndSpark.com. Grab her free 10-minute energetic reset audio on the home page, and check out her free Summer Speaker Series featuring 12 speakers including legendary astrologer Rick Levine and medium Suzanne Giesemann.

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My name is Will and I'm Karen and unlike Mulder and Scully, both want to believe.

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So we've embarked on a journey of discovery.

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We've talked to people deeply entrenched in the spiritual and metaphysical world.

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We've thrown ourselves into weird and wonderful experiences.

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I even joined a Covenant witch.

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And wait, you joined a Covenant?

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Yup, all in the interest of finding something that will prove that there's something beyond

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this physical, three-dimensional world we all live in.

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This is the Skeptic Metapositions.

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Hey there, welcome back to the Skeptic Metapositions to show that proves that you don't have to choose

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between having a working brain and a wide open mind.

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You've got them both right here.

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Don't ask which is which.

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I was just going to see that.

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We don't know which is which, but one of us is an open mind and one is anyway.

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I'm Will, I'm one of your hosts.

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And I'm Karen.

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And we're thrilled to have you with us again today.

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We were excited to talk to you live, but we're doing something a little different today.

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And we're really excited about it.

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And to give you a cryptic little tease, we have a, well, we've actually blown it up.

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We've been blown into heck out of the show.

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So we have a fifth-generation psychic on the show today.

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And she is open to answering your questions.

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And we actually have gotten a ton of them that I'm going to be reading.

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I'm hoping they'll show up so they can hear their question answered, but if not, they'll

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get it on the recording anyway.

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But we're excited to welcome her.

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She is, she's something else.

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Doing some research on her.

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She, you know, she had a live show on the Vegas strip.

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She's worked with people like Tony Robbins and all kinds of, you know, I'll give you an instruction

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later.

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In the meantime, Karen, how are you doing?

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I'm doing great.

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How are you doing?

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I'm doing fantastic.

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Thank you.

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She looks very smiley today.

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I am happy.

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We've got a great guest on the show.

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We're going live again.

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I have you by my side.

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What more can we ask for?

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Not much.

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Not much.

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All right.

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Let's go to the chocolate.

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Yeah, I'm happy.

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All right.

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Well, before we get started, I did want to read an email that we got because it really, it

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moved me so much that I think I really want to share it.

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And then I, I waited a little bit till I had permission from this person to read it and

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he has given me permission.

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So basically he says, I just want to drop a line and say, hello, let you know that I'm still

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listening.

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My name is Jamie.

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Leave it there a couple of years ago.

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You were kind enough to have a Zoom call with me to help me out with starting my own

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metaphysical YouTube channel.

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I talked with Will while Karen was busy in the background and gave me a family day.

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I truly believe I came across you guys for a reason.

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I do not believe in coincidences.

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One episode in particular recently was the mother who lost her son, Eric.

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Remember that episode?

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Yeah.

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It was so well.

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I read the book and listened to that podcast twice.

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This came at the ultimate time for me as my son's best friend also ended his life a

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month ago.

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He was only 16 years old and he had been my son's best friends since they were five.

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His mom is still grieving horribly and my son is not doing well as would be expected.

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This has given me some tools to speak to my boy and tell him some things that might ease

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his mind as he deals with a life without his friend.

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So thank you very much for doing this.

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I just want to make sure you knew that what you do really makes a huge difference in this

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world.

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Keep up the great work.

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You're both wonderful souls.

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That makes it all worthwhile for me.

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Absolutely.

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That's why we're doing it.

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That's why I have to read that letter because every once in a while we get one that just

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moves us so much that we have to talk about it.

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The book he's talking about is the book that we have for free right now.

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Digital copy.

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If you sign up for our newsletter, just go to skepticmanposition.com/newsletter, sign up

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for the newsletter and you can download that digital copy of that book or free.

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It's basically Eric from the other side talking about what's like on the other side.

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It's pretty fantastic.

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It's pretty well.

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It's pretty wild.

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I'm just too excited.

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I got to bring the guest on.

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Do you have anything you want to talk about before you get around?

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I'm ready.

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All right.

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Well, let me introduce her.

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We talk to a lot of people on the show who can see things that others can't, right?

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But tonight's guest is doing something a little different.

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See, she's trying to make sure that you can see them too.

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Oh.

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Her name is Delisa Hawking and she's a fifth generation psychic medium and the founder of

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Spirit and Spark.

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And what sets her apart in a crowded, in I mean crowded field, is that her entire

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philosophy runs counter to how most of the psychic world operates.

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See, she's not here to be Oracle Karen.

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She's here to make you one.

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I love that.

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I love that so much.

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I love that so much.

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Well, tonight she's joining us live and she has agreed to take your questions on the air

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given that her whole mission is helping people ask better questions and trust what comes

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back.

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That feels like a pretty perfect format to me.

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Welcome to the skeptic mid-visitions Delisa Hawking.

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How are you doing today?

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Oh my gosh.

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I love your intro.

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That email you just read.

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Right.

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Hit me straight in the heart.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Because sometimes when you're on YouTube, for example, and you don't really know who's

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listening all the time and you kind of hope you're making an impact and getting an email

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like that, I think makes all the difference.

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It does.

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It makes all the difference.

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And the same, I mean, when you say it hit you in the fields, when I first opened up the

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email and I read it, I literally had to compose myself because it meant so much to me.

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And I edited it a little bit for time.

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He goes on a little bit more and shares more accolades, which selfishly would have loved

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to have shared, but I thought it was a little too much, but it's not that it was not the

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point.

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So, so thank you, Delisa.

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Okay.

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I am excited to talk to you.

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And I do have some questions before we open up to the audience that we've got about,

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I think I've got 13 questions here that I'm going to ask you.

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We have 13 cent in already.

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So, and who knows what's going to come up here.

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In fact, I should probably do this so people know what they can do.

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Okay.

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All right.

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So, let's just establish who you are, Delisa, because on top of answering great questions,

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you have a great message.

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Everyone to make sure we get out to the world.

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So, five generations of psychic ability in one family.

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Right?

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At what point growing up did you realize that that wasn't normal and did you ever wish

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that it was?

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Well, I grew up in a family that was very open to all of it.

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You know, my grandmother is behind me here.

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She's who I would sit with in her living room, and she would talk to me about the spirits

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that she would see walking through her house.

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She could actually see them with her eyes, like her physical eyes.

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And she'd tell me what they were wearing.

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And I was, as a kid, half terrified and half intrigued by what the heck my grandmother

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Eloise was going to tell me.

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So, that's her.

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That's actually her mom up here.

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My great-great-grandfather's up here at the top.

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So, I have all these photos of incredible people in my family that have been a part of

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the story.

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It's actually on my dad's side of the family.

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And yeah, we can trace it back to at least my great-great-grandmother, Bell.

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And her gifts and my grandmother, Eloise's gifts, really operated in the same way as far

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as I can tell.

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But my gifts didn't drop in until August of 2015.

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This was not what I thought I would be doing for a living.

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So, it's been interesting.

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An interesting last, you know, nearly 11 years now.

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Right.

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So, you aptitude testing, Holly.

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I mean, the high school did not mention psychic medium.

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So, how long did you take you to kind of position yourself, purposely so you could just kind

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of point out, know exactly where things are?

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That was pretty impressive.

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Yeah, that was impressive.

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Like, she's just nailing it.

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I was on a podcast to her recently and I feel like I did about five to seven podcasts a week.

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So, I got really good at pointing.

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Ah, that's it.

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Yes.

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Right.

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Yeah.

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But, no, I didn't think that this is what I was going to do for a living.

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I actually was a dating coach and a matchmaker.

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Oh, wow.

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Yeah, I had started a company and was doing that in 2015.

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I was also working at a business school in Texas.

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So, I really did not think, which, you know, sounds kind of ironic coming from a psychic medium.

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I didn't even know the gifts were coming, right?

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So, but it all happened.

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And so, that's why you were a good matchmaker.

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Yeah, you know, I really didn't enjoy it as much as I thought I was going to.

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It sounded like a good idea at the time, but I think if I were to do, you know, matchmaking

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again, I would definitely do it for more of a spiritual, energetic lens.

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But when I had started that company, I wasn't, I wasn't a psychic medium as far as I knew.

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But everything changed overnight in August of 2015 and literally overnight and all of my

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gifts dropped in.

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And here we are.

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Right.

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So, how did that happen?

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Like overnight.

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Like what, what, what was the catalyst?

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Yes.

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I had gone up to the Omega Institute in New York State about a hundred miles north of

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LaGuardia to give people an idea of where it was at.

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And I went last minute.

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I decided, you know what?

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I'm going to, I'm going to go.

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I found a really cheap flight.

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I think there happened to be a seat left in this class and the whole weekend was about synchronicity

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and how this group of people had basically proven or shown through data and studies that nothing

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happens as an accident.

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So how ironic that this is where everything happens.

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I go on the trip.

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A lot of synchronicities happen while I'm there at the retreat.

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But the hallmark was the last night of my trip when just so happens that I had a friend

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that I knew from a project in Las Vegas who had a house next to the Omega Institute out

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in the woods.

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And he said, why don't you just come over?

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We'll catch up.

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We haven't seen each other in a while.

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So I do.

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While I'm there, he gets a phone call from his family letting him know that his Aunt Barbara

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had died unexpectedly that day.

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She had fallen down a flight of stairs.

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Oh, long.

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And, you know, I feel terrible for my friend.

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And, but I don't know his family.

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He had never met Aunt Barbara.

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I go off to the guest bedroom because it's pretty late at that point.

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And I'm going to go to bed.

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You know, I just got done with this meditation at this workshop and I was really relaxed.

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And Aunt Barbara, who had just died, came through to me while I was sleeping.

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I could actually see her in the astral state.

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So I could see what she looked like.

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And she didn't move her mouth.

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But she asked me telepathically to deliver a message to her nephew to let her nephew know

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that she was okay and that she had made it to the other side.

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So you know, I get up the next morning and I remember it right away.

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And I could feel the magnitude of what had happened.

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And I went out to the kitchen where Peter was already standing and delivered the message.

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And he asked what she looked like and I described her hair or facial features.

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He said, that's her.

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And then a couple days later, at her service, he snapped a photo of her that was on display

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at the service service because I hadn't even seen her at this point, you know.

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And so I get this text message a couple days later from him with that photo.

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And I literally was in a restaurant having lunch and I dropped my phone and started like

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tearing up at the restaurant.

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It was exactly as she had looked a couple nights before when she had come through.

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So that's what started everything.

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I'm like, this is what my grandmother, Eloise, would always talk to me about.

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And now it's my turn.

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And if Ampar were who I didn't know could come through, what the heck else was trying to come

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through?

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No doubt.

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That's what scares me, actually.

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That's what I'm worried about.

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So then you took it in man, right?

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Because you trained with people like Dr. Raven Moody, right?

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The man who literally wrote the book on near death experiences, you worked with Tony Robbins.

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You had a show on In Vegas, right?

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So like you just dove straight in.

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Yeah.

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I think that happens when we align with what we are born to do.

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Right.

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I think the timing, you know, I was in my mid 30s when all that happened.

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When they all dropped in, it changed my life, it changed everything about my life.

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But I'm glad they came in later at mid 30s because I had already owned a couple companies.

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As I said, I was working at a business school in Texas.

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Like, I had a lot of business acumen.

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And so by the time the gifts dropped in, I could take it and run with it because I had already

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had a few different companies that I had run before.

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And that made a huge difference.

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But yeah, it started with a beta test.

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And when I got home from the trip to New York and I thought, okay, I want to see if I could

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replicate this.

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So I used actually the same meditation files that we used at the retreat for binaural beats.

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And I put headphones on.

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And I asked a group of people who I knew but didn't know the details of what was happening

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in their life at the moment.

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But I thought they might be open to something like this.

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I reached out to them and I said, this is what happened.

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And I want to test this.

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Will you allow me to channel for you?

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And I wrote their name at the top of a piece of paper and just me in my living room with

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my headphones on the pen.

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I would start writing down everything I would see here, feel, no.

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And then I would get on the phone with them.

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And I'd say, don't tell me anything.

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Just let me get through all of my notes.

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And I just want you to tell me if I'm accurate.

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And by the end of so many of those calls, I had so many people say, I don't know how you

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knew that about me.

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Nobody knows that about me.

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Wow.

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And I said, well, your secret's safe with me.

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Thank you for allowing me the opportunity.

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And yeah, it was like rocket fuel after that.

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I decided to move back to Vegas where my family, my immediate family was living.

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And I thought, if I'm going to be a psychic medium, Vegas would be a good city.

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And if I need a shower and a hot meal, I have family there if I fail miserably.

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Great.

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That's safety net.

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Yeah.

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And the exact opposite happened.

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So I ended up opening up my own spiritual center in Las Vegas.

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I had the live stage show that was actually Abinions, which is a haunted hotel in Casino.

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I had that.

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And then, you know, we all know what happens in early 2020.

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And then everything went virtual.

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I took everything online.

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And so I've been running the company virtual since then.

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And now I have students and clients that live all over the place.

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That makes it a lot of fun.

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Wow.

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That sounds awesome.

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I just want to point out that one of our longtime listener, some of our closest friends is

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here.

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And she says, hey guys, love how I always land on Facebook and you go live.

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It was meant to be cat.

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I can tell you.

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What she goes on and says that Raymond Moody is actually one of the reasons she became a

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hypotherpist.

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I mean, Raymond Moody is responsible for a lot of people moving to the space.

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So I can't am not surprised by that at all.

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Do you want to hear a random story about?

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Yes.

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Okay.

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Please.

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So I went to college at UNLV in Las Vegas.

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And you know, you get your course catalog.

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Back then, you know, you had it in paper and you'd go through and you'd look to see what

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class that you could sign up for.

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I swear to you, Raymond Moody taught a semester at UNLV and the whole semester was on near

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death experiences.

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When I saw that that class was listed, I about fell out of my chair.

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Wow.

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Wow.

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Yeah.

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And full circle.

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I will be asking him soon to, I want to interview him because I actually haven't talked

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to him since that class, but it was a huge game changer, just in, you know, how I viewed

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life and what happens when we pass away.

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When I was a child, I grew up out in the Seattle area and my pediatrician at that time, this

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was years before any of my gifts came in.

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He was the leading expert on near death experiences in children.

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So I kind of had like these touch points over the years where you look back and you're like,

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of course, I'm a psychic medium, like all these weird things happen.

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But yeah, Raymond Moody was an excellent teacher and really went in depth with all of his

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studies and research.

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So it was a great opportunity.

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Well, if you get a chance to talk to him, let him know that he has two fans here that

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would love to have him on our show as well.

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Just putting it out there because, well, that'd be great.

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So I do, I've got a lot of more questions for you, but before we go down that road, I want

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I do want to answer, I'll give you like the first softball, right?

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Just a little softball question that's going to be super easy, but David and Chicago asked

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it and a lot of folks that are listening to the show are just starting out.

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So this makes perfect sense.

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So the question is, we pose the question, we pose the request, the request in a way

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that it was more general, right?

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It's not like, "Hey, will I become famous?"

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But rather something that might pertain to more people.

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And so the question from David was, do you think everyone has psychic abilities or is it

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something only certain people are born with?

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That's an easy question.

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Softball, right?

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I'm not going to start it slow and make it easy for you.

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So yes, what's the answer?

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We all have these abilities.

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I think some of us are born with stronger inclination to be able to do it maybe faster

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easier.

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And I think I have something in my genetics because I'm fifth generation at least, you know?

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So I think once the gifts came in, it was much easier for me to be off to the raises.

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But a lot of my students don't have that family lineage.

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They don't have any kind of real background in doing psychic work or anything like that.

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And I teach them how it's vibration.

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So I know you've got a lot of questions and we may cover this in some other questions,

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but basically whatever vibration we are at, whatever frequency we are at, if we can raise

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that, then we can tap into psychic information to like past, present, future.

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If we can raise it even higher, then that's where we can start doing things like medium

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shift and channeling.

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But not all psychics or mediums.

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But all mediums technically should be psychic because you have to bypass the psychic energy

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to get high enough to get into the medium shift energy.

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But medium shift would be channeling usually somebody that's passed away or an animal pet

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that you've lost that's died and communicating with that.

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But psychic energy is actually, in my opinion, much easier and quicker to be able to get into

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by being a frequency match to the energy of the psychic awareness.

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It's a little bit more challenging to get into the medium shift frequency.

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But it is possible, and of course there are mediums out there that are good, but anybody

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looking to develop these skills and say, start with psychic awareness and some channeling.

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And you might find that that's all you need and then some people will continue on and do

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more education.

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All psychics are mediums.

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No, no, all mediums should be psychic, not all psychics are mediums.

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What about if you're an extra large?

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I feel like an extra large some days.

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It has begun.

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I like it.

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All right, Kat has responded also.

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Put down another, you can see within someone's needle birth chart if they are dialed into

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their abilities or if it's more of a struggle to connect.

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That's interesting.

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I didn't know that.

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You can see that in this.

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All I see in my needle chart is you're going to have a hard life.

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I'm not going to say it.

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No, it's true though.

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I have sun conjunct Neptune in my needle chart and my Pisces moon in the 10th house squares

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a bunch of my stuff.

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So anybody that ever an astrologer looks at my chart sees it all over it.

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And I read people's charts and I can see sometimes I see where there's like a doubt in oneself

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which can be connected to Virgo energy and what they have as planets or sensitive placements

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in their chart.

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Virgo energy in a low form can be very self-critical and it can be hard to connect if you don't believe

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that you can.

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Gotcha.

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Well, I didn't know that.

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Learn something new every day.

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I'm so glad we did the show.

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Yeah, that's true.

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So in the intro, I tease the fact that you are not a typical psychic in as much as you

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don't, you prefer not to be considered an oracle, but you rather would help others to develop

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their own intuition or become their own oracle.

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So it makes sense when you talk about how aligning our frequencies to that space, but how,

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how to sign a line themselves because you know, and you would like it in step form.

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Yes, yes.

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And if you could find the quick button, the fast forward button, I would really appreciate

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that.

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Yes.

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So imagine you're at the doctor's office and the doctor says, you know, you need to get

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in better condition.

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It's very similar to that conversation.

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So doctors probably going to tell you, drink more water, eat better food, get more sleep,

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meditate, have some time with nature, relax, like all those things.

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It's the same thing.

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Okay.

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So ask yourself, how could I be healthier as a person?

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Like what could I do to reduce my stress and be healthier?

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Those are the very simple things that will help to raise your frequency.

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I get a lot of pushback.

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Oh, my cat has decided to join the party up here.

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Yes.

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And she died.

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She was her best teacher out of the back.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Sometimes she likes to eat plants.

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So I keep an eye on her in my background.

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So you can do all of those things.

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I get a little bit of pushback when I say the low hanging fruit is meditating because a

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lot of people say, oh, I can't meditate.

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My brain won't quiet down.

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And at first your brain will be noisy when you're trying to meditate.

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I would find a guided meditation that you really like.

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It could be on YouTube.

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It could be on the Insight Timer app.

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They have a ton of free classes on there, but find something that you like listening to.

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I like Steve Noble on YouTube.

469
00:22:57,360 --> 00:23:00,680
He's got great meditations on there.

470
00:23:00,680 --> 00:23:01,880
But find what you like.

471
00:23:01,880 --> 00:23:04,160
But start incorporating it into your life.

472
00:23:04,160 --> 00:23:06,640
You don't need to do this every single day.

473
00:23:06,640 --> 00:23:12,840
But if you start meditating at least a couple times a week, just with your eyes closed,

474
00:23:12,840 --> 00:23:17,440
just listening to the sound of whatever is coming through your headphones, you will

475
00:23:17,440 --> 00:23:22,360
start to notice you will become more and more sensitive to your intuition.

476
00:23:22,360 --> 00:23:27,560
And the more you do it and you set that intention that you want to know more and learn more,

477
00:23:27,560 --> 00:23:30,400
then you will have access to that.

478
00:23:30,400 --> 00:23:34,960
So journaling and meditation are two really important factors.

479
00:23:34,960 --> 00:23:38,080
And some people ask me, well, what's the best way to journal?

480
00:23:38,080 --> 00:23:41,200
How do I use journaling to become more psychic?

481
00:23:41,200 --> 00:23:45,160
There's a practice in the book called The Artist Way by Julia Cameron.

482
00:23:45,160 --> 00:23:53,280
And the practice is every morning, three blank pages and a pen and no journaling prompt.

483
00:23:53,280 --> 00:23:57,600
And you write until the three pages are filled.

484
00:23:57,600 --> 00:24:04,080
And I will tell you, it will knock your socks off in the best way.

485
00:24:04,080 --> 00:24:09,480
But you got to set the intention and put the time on your calendar to do it.

486
00:24:09,480 --> 00:24:14,720
But if you commit to that, if you did just meditation and morning

487
00:24:14,720 --> 00:24:21,040
pages as part of your routine, you would become more psychic than you are right now.

488
00:24:21,040 --> 00:24:25,440
And I'd say you could probably start doing it in about 30 days.

489
00:24:25,440 --> 00:24:26,440
Wow.

490
00:24:26,440 --> 00:24:27,440
30 days.

491
00:24:27,440 --> 00:24:30,440
But that is the fast forward button, at least I think so.

492
00:24:30,440 --> 00:24:33,200
But you got to the writing.

493
00:24:33,200 --> 00:24:34,680
But I don't mind writing.

494
00:24:34,680 --> 00:24:35,680
No, that's true.

495
00:24:35,680 --> 00:24:36,680
Yeah.

496
00:24:36,680 --> 00:24:37,680
I might be okay.

497
00:24:37,680 --> 00:24:39,680
I'm going to hold you to that.

498
00:24:39,680 --> 00:24:41,680
30 days from now, I'm going to delisa.

499
00:24:41,680 --> 00:24:43,680
I don't know what happened.

500
00:24:43,680 --> 00:24:47,880
I can't read your mind anymore.

501
00:24:47,880 --> 00:24:49,400
But I'm not the only one that's doing it.

502
00:24:49,400 --> 00:24:50,880
Cat is on board too.

503
00:24:50,880 --> 00:24:51,880
So, all right.

504
00:24:51,880 --> 00:24:55,280
So I want to move on to the next question because we got a bunch.

505
00:24:55,280 --> 00:24:57,560
You know, I don't want to run out of time.

506
00:24:57,560 --> 00:25:03,200
Some folks like David or Chicago, whose question we read earlier are new.

507
00:25:03,200 --> 00:25:06,160
Others are more advanced in the space on our show.

508
00:25:06,160 --> 00:25:08,560
And Sandra seems to be one of those.

509
00:25:08,560 --> 00:25:10,880
Sandra from Atlanta.

510
00:25:10,880 --> 00:25:13,120
Your question is delisa.

511
00:25:13,120 --> 00:25:15,960
I've been told my whole life that I'm too sensitive.

512
00:25:15,960 --> 00:25:18,120
And I feel things too deeply.

513
00:25:18,120 --> 00:25:23,560
Is that actually a psychic ability trying to get my attention or my just an anxious person?

514
00:25:23,560 --> 00:25:29,000
I think that it is a sensitivity that is connected to psychic abilities.

515
00:25:29,000 --> 00:25:32,400
It's called clear sentience.

516
00:25:32,400 --> 00:25:35,200
And you can feel things in your physical body.

517
00:25:35,200 --> 00:25:38,120
Some people will refer to it as empathic.

518
00:25:38,120 --> 00:25:43,880
The empathic is like on one level and clear sentience is like more of a psychic ability.

519
00:25:43,880 --> 00:25:48,600
But you can kind of think of it about like walking into a room.

520
00:25:48,600 --> 00:25:52,280
Are you somebody that can feel the room or you can feel if the couple in the corner had

521
00:25:52,280 --> 00:25:56,400
just had a fight or you know, you want to go stand over on that side of the room because

522
00:25:56,400 --> 00:25:58,280
those people feel nice and friendly.

523
00:25:58,280 --> 00:25:59,280
You know.

524
00:25:59,280 --> 00:26:05,000
So if you're something that can walk into a room and feel that, you could probably, you

525
00:26:05,000 --> 00:26:08,640
know, amp up your clear sentience even more if you wanted to.

526
00:26:08,640 --> 00:26:11,560
But the price of being sensitive is being sensitive.

527
00:26:11,560 --> 00:26:18,080
So if you're going to lean into that more and develop that more, you will also, in my

528
00:26:18,080 --> 00:26:24,160
opinion, need to practice boundaries and psychic hygiene with like clearing your energy.

529
00:26:24,160 --> 00:26:31,880
And you know, only tuning in to those messages or those sensitivities during certain business

530
00:26:31,880 --> 00:26:32,880
hours.

531
00:26:32,880 --> 00:26:39,400
That sounds really funny, but spirit will sometimes think it's like a 24/7 operation and wake

532
00:26:39,400 --> 00:26:43,520
up in the middle of the night or when you're a dinner with family or whatever.

533
00:26:43,520 --> 00:26:44,520
Yeah, no, no.

534
00:26:44,520 --> 00:26:46,320
I think that's fun with our daughter.

535
00:26:46,320 --> 00:26:47,320
Oh, you?

536
00:26:47,320 --> 00:26:48,320
I do.

537
00:26:48,320 --> 00:26:49,840
I think that's what's going on with her.

538
00:26:49,840 --> 00:26:51,800
She's just been having these weird lights.

539
00:26:51,800 --> 00:26:54,640
She can't explain the reason why she feels the way she feels.

540
00:26:54,640 --> 00:26:55,640
That's the way she feels.

541
00:26:55,640 --> 00:26:56,640
I think that's what it is.

542
00:26:56,640 --> 00:26:58,360
I'll be waking up.

543
00:26:58,360 --> 00:27:01,160
And you can turn it off and on.

544
00:27:01,160 --> 00:27:07,000
So I think a lot of people don't realize that psychic communication is a two way street.

545
00:27:07,000 --> 00:27:13,440
You can tell them, spirit, I only work when I'm at my desk with my computer on, you know,

546
00:27:13,440 --> 00:27:16,480
don't bother me unless it's really important.

547
00:27:16,480 --> 00:27:19,400
Or you can say like, don't wake me up in the middle of the night.

548
00:27:19,400 --> 00:27:20,400
I don't.

549
00:27:20,400 --> 00:27:21,400
I need my sleep.

550
00:27:21,400 --> 00:27:23,240
So you can set stronger boundaries.

551
00:27:23,240 --> 00:27:28,280
So if you are sensitive and you feel like it's too sensitive, maybe ask yourself, when

552
00:27:28,280 --> 00:27:33,800
is it appropriate for me to feel the sensitive or where do I want to turn this off and then

553
00:27:33,800 --> 00:27:38,400
practice asking for it to be turned off when you don't want to work with it?

554
00:27:38,400 --> 00:27:39,400
Gotcha.

555
00:27:39,400 --> 00:27:40,400
All right.

556
00:27:40,400 --> 00:27:44,440
So I just have to ask you one other one because I love this person's name.

557
00:27:44,440 --> 00:27:46,240
You know, I can't pronounce it.

558
00:27:46,240 --> 00:27:48,200
I was waiting to see her.

559
00:27:48,200 --> 00:27:49,200
You can see.

560
00:27:49,200 --> 00:27:50,840
She's from Dublin, Ireland.

561
00:27:50,840 --> 00:27:53,520
So you can tell and I'm so sorry.

562
00:27:53,520 --> 00:27:59,480
I'm AOIFE is a way it's spelled.

563
00:27:59,480 --> 00:28:00,480
I can't.

564
00:28:00,480 --> 00:28:01,480
I'm so sorry.

565
00:28:01,480 --> 00:28:08,000
I hate, I hate miss pronounce people's names, but this beautiful person AOIFE from Dublin,

566
00:28:08,000 --> 00:28:09,000
Ireland.

567
00:28:09,000 --> 00:28:13,600
Her question says growing up in Ireland, there was always this quiet acceptance of the unseen

568
00:28:13,600 --> 00:28:14,600
world.

569
00:28:14,600 --> 00:28:17,600
Spirits, premonitions, things that couldn't be explained.

570
00:28:17,600 --> 00:28:20,680
Do you think certain cultures are more naturally attuned to this kind of awareness

571
00:28:20,680 --> 00:28:21,680
and others?

572
00:28:21,680 --> 00:28:22,680
It's a great question.

573
00:28:22,680 --> 00:28:24,600
And I love Dublin.

574
00:28:24,600 --> 00:28:30,440
I think that there are naturally some cultures that are more open to it.

575
00:28:30,440 --> 00:28:39,800
I've just naturally seen in my work that people that have like a Hispanic and South America,

576
00:28:39,800 --> 00:28:44,560
like I get a lot of people that are interested from those parts of the world.

577
00:28:44,560 --> 00:28:50,680
And I think as I say that, my observation is a lot of them already have their own practices

578
00:28:50,680 --> 00:28:55,560
and people that they go to and their families have been talking about this for generations.

579
00:28:55,560 --> 00:29:05,160
So most of my clients and students end up coming from America, Western Europe and Australia.

580
00:29:05,160 --> 00:29:10,760
And I think it's because there are a lot of pockets, especially in the United States,

581
00:29:10,760 --> 00:29:13,040
that haven't embraced it.

582
00:29:13,040 --> 00:29:16,720
And so people that are starting to get curious and wake up to it, they don't really know who

583
00:29:16,720 --> 00:29:21,920
to go to or who to talk to because their families haven't been talking about it.

584
00:29:21,920 --> 00:29:25,720
So I do think that different parts of the world have different experiences.

585
00:29:25,720 --> 00:29:26,720
Cool.

586
00:29:26,720 --> 00:29:31,000
Well, since you brought up Australia, we got to go to the one question from Australia that

587
00:29:31,000 --> 00:29:32,000
we have, right?

588
00:29:32,000 --> 00:29:34,560
Because I just, I know.

589
00:29:34,560 --> 00:29:38,800
So first and foremost, the lovely person from Dublin, sorry, I couldn't pronounce your

590
00:29:38,800 --> 00:29:40,600
name, but thank you so much for listening.

591
00:29:40,600 --> 00:29:43,160
And for sending the question and really, really appreciate it.

592
00:29:43,160 --> 00:29:44,160
Now I am really sorry.

593
00:29:44,160 --> 00:29:46,320
I hope that answered your question.

594
00:29:46,320 --> 00:29:51,360
But Priya in Melbourne, Australia says, I come from a Hindu background where intuition

595
00:29:51,360 --> 00:29:55,720
and spiritual connection are deeply embedded in the culture, but I've always struggled to

596
00:29:55,720 --> 00:29:59,680
reconcile that with my very Western analytical education.

597
00:29:59,680 --> 00:30:03,840
How do you bridge those two worlds without one cancelling the other out?

598
00:30:03,840 --> 00:30:06,640
I think we can embrace all of it.

599
00:30:06,640 --> 00:30:08,400
For example, I grew up Catholic.

600
00:30:08,400 --> 00:30:13,360
I have necklaces on right now that are across and they're miraculous, merry, metal.

601
00:30:13,360 --> 00:30:19,520
And I get questions a lot about wearing these and I've had many, many people on social media,

602
00:30:19,520 --> 00:30:22,200
for example, say, well, you're psychic medium.

603
00:30:22,200 --> 00:30:25,040
Why are you wearing a cross?

604
00:30:25,040 --> 00:30:30,680
And I think we can open our awareness and our perception much wider.

605
00:30:30,680 --> 00:30:34,040
I don't think it has to be a one size fits all.

606
00:30:34,040 --> 00:30:37,840
I think we can ask ourselves, what do I believe about spirituality?

607
00:30:37,840 --> 00:30:40,440
What do I believe about psychic awareness?

608
00:30:40,440 --> 00:30:45,760
Do I believe about religion or Jesus or any of that?

609
00:30:45,760 --> 00:30:51,160
So I think we can create our own experience here.

610
00:30:51,160 --> 00:30:55,120
And what we believe doesn't have to look like at anyone else believes.

611
00:30:55,120 --> 00:31:00,920
So I would say, stay true to yourself more and give yourself permission to come up with

612
00:31:00,920 --> 00:31:05,400
whatever it is that you believe and how you want to work with that in your own life.

613
00:31:05,400 --> 00:31:09,240
But I wouldn't let anyone talk you out of anything that you believe, especially if it's

614
00:31:09,240 --> 00:31:15,160
something that uplifts you and inspires you to live a better life each day.

615
00:31:15,160 --> 00:31:16,160
That's great.

616
00:31:16,160 --> 00:31:17,160
Yeah.

617
00:31:17,160 --> 00:31:21,760
At the end of the day, you have to decide what you are and who you are and stick to that.

618
00:31:21,760 --> 00:31:25,000
Because we're getting bombarded by all kinds of people telling us, no, this is what you're

619
00:31:25,000 --> 00:31:26,000
supposed to be.

620
00:31:26,000 --> 00:31:30,840
And a lot of people believe that languages are just different, like almost like different

621
00:31:30,840 --> 00:31:35,200
dialects of the same, of the same language, or not language cultures.

622
00:31:35,200 --> 00:31:36,200
Different modalities.

623
00:31:36,200 --> 00:31:37,200
Right.

624
00:31:37,200 --> 00:31:38,200
Right.

625
00:31:38,200 --> 00:31:39,200
Right.

626
00:31:39,200 --> 00:31:40,200
I know.

627
00:31:40,200 --> 00:31:44,280
But you know, you know, you're just like that.

628
00:31:44,280 --> 00:31:47,520
So I want to take a break from these questions first, because I've got one.

629
00:31:47,520 --> 00:31:50,000
I'm just burning in my mind.

630
00:31:50,000 --> 00:31:52,720
I've got to ask you, and it's going back to the Vegas show.

631
00:31:52,720 --> 00:31:54,480
We can just fast-needed by that, right?

632
00:31:54,480 --> 00:32:00,080
Was this, I remember I'm a big sci-fi guy and back in the day, there was a show on sci-fi

633
00:32:00,080 --> 00:32:04,120
where John Edwards would do these, from the audience and stuff.

634
00:32:04,120 --> 00:32:05,120
Is that what you show?

635
00:32:05,120 --> 00:32:06,120
What was your show like?

636
00:32:06,120 --> 00:32:07,520
Can we really curious?

637
00:32:07,520 --> 00:32:09,000
It was like that.

638
00:32:09,000 --> 00:32:15,520
But the whole thing started because I would take media, like news reporters through different

639
00:32:15,520 --> 00:32:18,760
rooms of the hotel, and they would write stories about the hotel being haunted.

640
00:32:18,760 --> 00:32:21,920
So the hotel said, "Hey, do you want to have your own show?"

641
00:32:21,920 --> 00:32:22,920
I was like, "Yeah!"

642
00:32:22,920 --> 00:32:23,920
Let's do it.

643
00:32:23,920 --> 00:32:28,120
I got nothing going on for the next year and a half.

644
00:32:28,120 --> 00:32:29,120
Yeah.

645
00:32:29,120 --> 00:32:30,920
And there was a lot of work.

646
00:32:30,920 --> 00:32:34,600
I learned a lot, but I did the set.

647
00:32:34,600 --> 00:32:36,360
I produced it.

648
00:32:36,360 --> 00:32:37,360
Everything.

649
00:32:37,360 --> 00:32:40,120
Yeah, I would stand on stage.

650
00:32:40,120 --> 00:32:43,520
It was a 90-minute show.

651
00:32:43,520 --> 00:32:45,600
And a couple of components.

652
00:32:45,600 --> 00:32:51,880
One, I had a beautiful lady named Brandy, who was a shaman and she would open the show and

653
00:32:51,880 --> 00:32:55,280
do some drumming as we opened it.

654
00:32:55,280 --> 00:33:01,040
But I would pull up on stage usually during a show about five people at like one at a time,

655
00:33:01,040 --> 00:33:03,160
but get through about five.

656
00:33:03,160 --> 00:33:09,240
And I'd have them come and sit with me on stage and I'd have them just ask me a question.

657
00:33:09,240 --> 00:33:13,480
And then I would tune in and channel on the spot for them.

658
00:33:13,480 --> 00:33:17,760
And then, they were like, "Oh my god, this is amazing!"

659
00:33:17,760 --> 00:33:23,480
So then at the end of the show, I would call people up from the audience and I would teach

660
00:33:23,480 --> 00:33:26,760
them how to bend spoons.

661
00:33:26,760 --> 00:33:28,080
So they did that.

662
00:33:28,080 --> 00:33:29,080
And then they got...

663
00:33:29,080 --> 00:33:30,080
Can we get her?

664
00:33:30,080 --> 00:33:34,800
Like take their spoon or their fork home with them as proof of the power of the mind.

665
00:33:34,800 --> 00:33:38,960
Because the mind would heat up the utensil hot enough to bend it.

666
00:33:38,960 --> 00:33:39,960
So we did that.

667
00:33:39,960 --> 00:33:45,000
And then I would close every show with whatever spirit felt like that audience needed to hear

668
00:33:45,000 --> 00:33:46,000
that night.

669
00:33:46,000 --> 00:33:49,000
So it was some kind of message from spirit.

670
00:33:49,000 --> 00:33:50,680
And yeah, that was the show.

671
00:33:50,680 --> 00:33:51,680
But it was fun.

672
00:33:51,680 --> 00:33:53,400
So Lisa, we've got to work together.

673
00:33:53,400 --> 00:33:55,560
I want to bend this spoon so that...

674
00:33:55,560 --> 00:34:02,440
So I have to ask, so that the spoon would just bend or do they have to help bend it or...

675
00:34:02,440 --> 00:34:03,760
They would help bend it.

676
00:34:03,760 --> 00:34:08,880
With enough practice, you can bend it without touching it.

677
00:34:08,880 --> 00:34:13,520
But for anybody, I take you through a guided visualization.

678
00:34:13,520 --> 00:34:14,520
You're holding it.

679
00:34:14,520 --> 00:34:18,440
You hold it as light as you can with just a couple of fingers.

680
00:34:18,440 --> 00:34:22,120
So you're not intentionally putting the heat of your hand into it.

681
00:34:22,120 --> 00:34:26,680
You hold it real lightly and I walk you through it and you heat up the utensil and then you

682
00:34:26,680 --> 00:34:27,680
can bend it.

683
00:34:27,680 --> 00:34:29,680
So, yeah, we should...

684
00:34:29,680 --> 00:34:30,680
There's enough interest.

685
00:34:30,680 --> 00:34:35,960
We could do a class and have your audience come and take the spoon bending class.

686
00:34:35,960 --> 00:34:37,640
That sounds really cool.

687
00:34:37,640 --> 00:34:38,640
I love that.

688
00:34:38,640 --> 00:34:39,640
Yeah.

689
00:34:39,640 --> 00:34:40,640
So funny, we're talking about all this spiritual stuff.

690
00:34:40,640 --> 00:34:44,840
And I'm like, how do you bend a spoon?

691
00:34:44,840 --> 00:34:48,200
And then we have people who are listening in who say, "It's easy.

692
00:34:48,200 --> 00:34:50,360
Oh yeah, it's easy for you to say a cat.

693
00:34:50,360 --> 00:34:51,360
That's nice."

694
00:34:51,360 --> 00:34:54,080
And how do I not know that you could do that?

695
00:34:54,080 --> 00:34:55,080
Exactly.

696
00:34:55,080 --> 00:34:56,080
That is not right.

697
00:34:56,080 --> 00:34:57,880
First non-bending, non-spoon benders.

698
00:34:57,880 --> 00:34:59,640
That's what we want to learn.

699
00:34:59,640 --> 00:35:00,960
Well, that sounds really cool.

700
00:35:00,960 --> 00:35:08,480
So when people work with you, why do people reach out to you the most to work with you?

701
00:35:08,480 --> 00:35:13,480
To become psychic or to be in spoons or to re-natal charts?

702
00:35:13,480 --> 00:35:18,240
What do you help the people with the most?

703
00:35:18,240 --> 00:35:24,560
I'd say it's a toss up between people that come to me to learn to be more psychic.

704
00:35:24,560 --> 00:35:30,920
And the second thing, I just talked about this earlier today because it came up in a conversation,

705
00:35:30,920 --> 00:35:33,480
past life readings.

706
00:35:33,480 --> 00:35:42,720
So I channel the records and go into full channeling where I come out and I don't remember

707
00:35:42,720 --> 00:35:45,040
hardly anything I just said.

708
00:35:45,040 --> 00:35:51,240
I channel usually I can get to about three past lives during a 90 minute session.

709
00:35:51,240 --> 00:35:56,800
And so that's, I think, by far now the one that most people come to me for.

710
00:35:56,800 --> 00:36:02,680
But I also really, I have one that's two hours long where it's for people that really want

711
00:36:02,680 --> 00:36:04,280
to do a deep dive.

712
00:36:04,280 --> 00:36:10,560
And I personally really love those ones because we have enough time to talk about all of the

713
00:36:10,560 --> 00:36:11,560
things.

714
00:36:11,560 --> 00:36:13,600
I like to get in and go deep.

715
00:36:13,600 --> 00:36:18,040
And so I can look at astrology chart and I can look at tarot cards and I can channel for

716
00:36:18,040 --> 00:36:19,040
them.

717
00:36:19,040 --> 00:36:25,600
But sometimes I've noticed in the industry, session times can be really, really short.

718
00:36:25,600 --> 00:36:31,520
And they don't really let you like get into the meat of it if it's too short.

719
00:36:31,520 --> 00:36:35,640
So I tend to like a longer time with my clients.

720
00:36:35,640 --> 00:36:36,640
Right.

721
00:36:36,640 --> 00:36:37,640
Yeah.

722
00:36:37,640 --> 00:36:38,640
It's like me.

723
00:36:38,640 --> 00:36:39,640
I used to like really short meditations.

724
00:36:39,640 --> 00:36:44,760
And I think anything below half hour, I'm just like, I'm just, it doesn't quite, what's

725
00:36:44,760 --> 00:36:45,760
the point?

726
00:36:45,760 --> 00:36:46,760
What is the point?

727
00:36:46,760 --> 00:36:47,760
Right.

728
00:36:47,760 --> 00:36:48,760
So I have a question.

729
00:36:48,760 --> 00:36:51,960
You said that it's, you can turn it off or turn it on or say, you know, these are my work

730
00:36:51,960 --> 00:36:53,560
hours.

731
00:36:53,560 --> 00:36:57,360
So I've heard different things from different people that we've interviewed.

732
00:36:57,360 --> 00:37:01,920
Some people say that you have to, you know, when it's on, you have to call spirits in.

733
00:37:01,920 --> 00:37:04,160
Some people say that they're just everywhere.

734
00:37:04,160 --> 00:37:06,440
So for you, which is it?

735
00:37:06,440 --> 00:37:09,160
Like are you just like you turn it on and then just like everywhere?

736
00:37:09,160 --> 00:37:13,800
Like towards the spirits or is it just like maybe one or you have to call them in?

737
00:37:13,800 --> 00:37:14,800
It depends.

738
00:37:14,800 --> 00:37:19,040
If I'm channeling, like let's say I'm asking a question about the world.

739
00:37:19,040 --> 00:37:21,760
Like maybe I want to look at the war.

740
00:37:21,760 --> 00:37:26,640
I will ask the question and I will channel directly from source energy.

741
00:37:26,640 --> 00:37:32,600
So I don't necessarily like pull in one being or, you know, one guide.

742
00:37:32,600 --> 00:37:35,760
I'm just going straight to source and channeling.

743
00:37:35,760 --> 00:37:41,800
And I'm working with a client, like maybe there's something going on in their life that I

744
00:37:41,800 --> 00:37:46,040
think their spirit team of angels and guides could help.

745
00:37:46,040 --> 00:37:50,480
I may call them in and then the room can get pretty crowded because there's a lot of

746
00:37:50,480 --> 00:37:52,120
beings there.

747
00:37:52,120 --> 00:37:56,840
So it kind of depends in my experience of what you're looking to achieve and what you're

748
00:37:56,840 --> 00:37:57,840
doing.

749
00:37:57,840 --> 00:38:01,480
And that can help dictate what energy you work with.

750
00:38:01,480 --> 00:38:02,480
Okay.

751
00:38:02,480 --> 00:38:03,480
So you're calling them in.

752
00:38:03,480 --> 00:38:07,920
We're not like walking through a hole, walking through a ghost without knowing it.

753
00:38:07,920 --> 00:38:08,920
Hopefully.

754
00:38:08,920 --> 00:38:13,640
No, no, no, no, no, no.

755
00:38:13,640 --> 00:38:20,720
I do remote house clearings because I've just been contacted by so many people over the

756
00:38:20,720 --> 00:38:25,080
years that feel like they have a spirit in their house and they don't know who it is.

757
00:38:25,080 --> 00:38:26,920
They don't know how to get rid of it.

758
00:38:26,920 --> 00:38:33,120
And so sometimes we have a portal open in our house and energy can come in and out

759
00:38:33,120 --> 00:38:34,440
of that portal.

760
00:38:34,440 --> 00:38:38,760
And so if you think you might have something in your house, you're probably right, but you

761
00:38:38,760 --> 00:38:40,200
can close the portals.

762
00:38:40,200 --> 00:38:46,200
I usually ask Archangel Michael to help with any energy clearings and closing the portals.

763
00:38:46,200 --> 00:38:52,240
And so you can just firmly ask him to come in and help close portals and remove energies.

764
00:38:52,240 --> 00:38:54,600
Sometimes it's within the physical house.

765
00:38:54,600 --> 00:38:59,240
Ironically, they're usually inside of a closet or like underneath stairs, almost like

766
00:38:59,240 --> 00:39:00,240
it is.

767
00:39:00,240 --> 00:39:01,240
I bet you're going to say the bed.

768
00:39:01,240 --> 00:39:02,240
Is that to freak out?

769
00:39:02,240 --> 00:39:05,320
Where's the house button?

770
00:39:05,320 --> 00:39:11,960
No, the energy kind of will get trapped in different parts of the house though.

771
00:39:11,960 --> 00:39:16,000
So I would definitely be clearing if you're doing any sage or palo santo or crystals.

772
00:39:16,000 --> 00:39:19,680
I'd be doing that in closets and under staircases.

773
00:39:19,680 --> 00:39:24,480
But I would also, if you're going to do like sage, for example, I would go around the exterior

774
00:39:24,480 --> 00:39:27,560
perimeter outside of your house too.

775
00:39:27,560 --> 00:39:33,040
Because sometimes it's the land and it's not actually the house that has a spirit attached

776
00:39:33,040 --> 00:39:34,040
to it.

777
00:39:34,040 --> 00:39:35,040
Gotcha.

778
00:39:35,040 --> 00:39:37,680
So you don't need to, or you don't need to stay versus the pantry.

779
00:39:37,680 --> 00:39:38,680
Oh.

780
00:39:38,680 --> 00:39:39,680
It's a spooky place.

781
00:39:39,680 --> 00:39:40,680
Don't.

782
00:39:40,680 --> 00:39:42,600
Well, I don't mind if they're here as long as they don't freak me out.

783
00:39:42,600 --> 00:39:43,600
Right.

784
00:39:43,600 --> 00:39:44,600
Let's have that conversation when we move.

785
00:39:44,600 --> 00:39:45,600
If someone's here, you can stay.

786
00:39:45,600 --> 00:39:46,600
Just don't freak me out.

787
00:39:46,600 --> 00:39:47,600
Yeah.

788
00:39:47,600 --> 00:39:51,480
Well, since you brought it up, I, it was one of the questions I was going to hold

789
00:39:51,480 --> 00:39:56,040
towards the end, but I think we need to ask it because it's so, oh, Kat says salt

790
00:39:56,040 --> 00:39:57,880
does a nice addition.

791
00:39:57,880 --> 00:40:00,040
So yeah, black salt.

792
00:40:00,040 --> 00:40:01,040
Oh.

793
00:40:01,040 --> 00:40:02,040
Oh.

794
00:40:02,040 --> 00:40:05,320
So the same with the world.

795
00:40:05,320 --> 00:40:12,480
The biggest question mark in my mind for the last, I don't know how long is how to heck.

796
00:40:12,480 --> 00:40:14,440
Do we get out of this?

797
00:40:14,440 --> 00:40:15,800
And do we get out of it?

798
00:40:15,800 --> 00:40:16,800
Because.

799
00:40:16,800 --> 00:40:18,320
Do you want to know?

800
00:40:18,320 --> 00:40:19,320
I mean, I do.

801
00:40:19,320 --> 00:40:20,320
I really do.

802
00:40:20,320 --> 00:40:21,320
Yeah.

803
00:40:21,320 --> 00:40:23,120
It depends on whether Deli wants to answer or not.

804
00:40:23,120 --> 00:40:24,120
I want it.

805
00:40:24,120 --> 00:40:25,120
But close your ears.

806
00:40:25,120 --> 00:40:27,120
I'll tell you a safe.

807
00:40:27,120 --> 00:40:28,120
Yeah.

808
00:40:28,120 --> 00:40:30,400
Because I still channel and I still make predictions.

809
00:40:30,400 --> 00:40:33,880
I think it's something a lot of people are interested in, especially with the world we live

810
00:40:33,880 --> 00:40:34,880
in today.

811
00:40:34,880 --> 00:40:40,120
And based on everything I've seen in my channelings, we have to move through it to get out of the

812
00:40:40,120 --> 00:40:42,240
other side of it.

813
00:40:42,240 --> 00:40:46,960
So spirits referred to it as the dismantling that we're going through right now.

814
00:40:46,960 --> 00:40:53,560
And so all the systems, basically, that we are tied into could be healthcare, education,

815
00:40:53,560 --> 00:40:59,520
real estate, stock market, foreign affairs, all of it.

816
00:40:59,520 --> 00:41:04,000
Like it's all on the table for dismantling or a, what do they say?

817
00:41:04,000 --> 00:41:06,040
Heavy renegotiation.

818
00:41:06,040 --> 00:41:12,600
So basically they have said that the more self-reliant you are, the better you will get

819
00:41:12,600 --> 00:41:15,840
through these next few years.

820
00:41:15,840 --> 00:41:19,880
And eventually we get to the other side of it.

821
00:41:19,880 --> 00:41:24,160
But sometimes I think it's going to feel like we are inside of a movie.

822
00:41:24,160 --> 00:41:30,040
And it's why I'm going to just close your day, the new Spielberg film on Friday.

823
00:41:30,040 --> 00:41:36,840
It opens because I have a strong hunch that this movie is going to be more like a documentary

824
00:41:36,840 --> 00:41:38,960
than it is a fictional film.

825
00:41:38,960 --> 00:41:39,960
Yeah.

826
00:41:39,960 --> 00:41:42,960
Well, he has said in interviews that everything in his film is real.

827
00:41:42,960 --> 00:41:43,960
Oh, perfect.

828
00:41:43,960 --> 00:41:45,960
He has planned out, said that.

829
00:41:45,960 --> 00:41:46,960
Yeah.

830
00:41:46,960 --> 00:41:49,440
So, which makes me maybe not want to go see.

831
00:41:49,440 --> 00:41:50,440
I know.

832
00:41:50,440 --> 00:41:51,440
Because I read Communion.

833
00:41:51,440 --> 00:41:54,360
And I was, I had to see the light on for two weeks.

834
00:41:54,360 --> 00:41:56,840
My roommate still mad at me.

835
00:41:56,840 --> 00:41:59,440
We won't go anywhere further than that.

836
00:41:59,440 --> 00:42:01,760
So how specific do you get your thing?

837
00:42:01,760 --> 00:42:06,560
Like, can you tell like who's going to win an election specific or that kind of stuff?

838
00:42:06,560 --> 00:42:07,960
Or is it more general?

839
00:42:07,960 --> 00:42:08,960
Yeah.

840
00:42:08,960 --> 00:42:14,520
A couple of examples would be when I predicted that Trump was going to win.

841
00:42:14,520 --> 00:42:20,480
I had so many people like throw hate at me and unfollow me and I'm like, I'm literally just

842
00:42:20,480 --> 00:42:22,480
looking at the energy.

843
00:42:22,480 --> 00:42:25,640
I try to say very politically neutral.

844
00:42:25,640 --> 00:42:27,040
But yeah, that's an example.

845
00:42:27,040 --> 00:42:29,200
And I had predicted his wins.

846
00:42:29,200 --> 00:42:33,080
There was a on my Instagram and likely on my Facebook.

847
00:42:33,080 --> 00:42:39,440
But if you go on my Instagram and scroll back to January of 2025, I have a video that I did

848
00:42:39,440 --> 00:42:45,120
after waking up on literally no makeup and in my pajamas.

849
00:42:45,120 --> 00:42:48,640
And it's a 60 second video about a dream I just had.

850
00:42:48,640 --> 00:42:56,880
And the dream had aeroplane and a helicopter, colliding.

851
00:42:56,880 --> 00:42:59,800
And I say, you know, spirit said I need to talk about this.

852
00:42:59,800 --> 00:43:01,920
Here's the video I post it.

853
00:43:01,920 --> 00:43:07,880
And it did really well like for views, but a couple days later, unfortunately when the

854
00:43:07,880 --> 00:43:14,640
helicopter airplane collision in Washington, DC happened and killed all of those people,

855
00:43:14,640 --> 00:43:19,680
there were so many people that remembered the prediction from a few days before that that

856
00:43:19,680 --> 00:43:26,400
I think it gave credence, gave proof to the fact that we can receive premonitions and we

857
00:43:26,400 --> 00:43:28,440
can see things in advance.

858
00:43:28,440 --> 00:43:32,720
There wasn't anything in that dream that gave me any kind of specific detail where I would

859
00:43:32,720 --> 00:43:34,720
have been able to stop that.

860
00:43:34,720 --> 00:43:39,960
But even if I had seen something like a flight number, do you think anybody would have taken

861
00:43:39,960 --> 00:43:44,040
me seriously, probably not?

862
00:43:44,040 --> 00:43:47,640
But yeah, sometimes the information that comes through is very, very specific.

863
00:43:47,640 --> 00:43:49,440
Yeah, wow.

864
00:43:49,440 --> 00:43:54,240
I'm not going to put your comment up because I don't want to cause fight, but I mean, just

865
00:43:54,240 --> 00:43:57,800
for those that are watching, you could see here because you just put it out.

866
00:43:57,800 --> 00:44:00,280
Yeah, I'm not going to give you this out loud.

867
00:44:00,280 --> 00:44:01,280
Oh, okay.

868
00:44:01,280 --> 00:44:03,520
Yeah, it's for everyone to make up their own mind about.

869
00:44:03,520 --> 00:44:04,520
Yeah.

870
00:44:04,520 --> 00:44:05,520
All right.

871
00:44:05,520 --> 00:44:07,520
So the time is flying, my eyes.

872
00:44:07,520 --> 00:44:09,600
Like the fastest live show we've ever did, done.

873
00:44:09,600 --> 00:44:13,240
I want to see carrying any of these questions, like jump out of your.

874
00:44:13,240 --> 00:44:14,840
There was one about dreams.

875
00:44:14,840 --> 00:44:17,840
This is what, because I have dreams over and over again.

876
00:44:17,840 --> 00:44:19,320
I always dream about losing my passport.

877
00:44:19,320 --> 00:44:20,320
It's a weird dream I have.

878
00:44:20,320 --> 00:44:24,240
From Michael in Denver, I keep having the same dream over and over.

879
00:44:24,240 --> 00:44:29,280
Should I be paying attention to that or is it just my brain processing stress?

880
00:44:29,280 --> 00:44:35,720
It's probably both, but if a dream comes in repetitively, I would pay attention to that

881
00:44:35,720 --> 00:44:37,960
because there's going to be some kind of meaning.

882
00:44:37,960 --> 00:44:42,480
And the probably your brain will probably keep showing it to you until you figure it out.

883
00:44:42,480 --> 00:44:48,400
But I think that also dreams that are very vivid, like the one I just shared about the helicopter

884
00:44:48,400 --> 00:44:52,920
and the airplane, I knew the instant I woke up that that was something very different

885
00:44:52,920 --> 00:44:54,400
than a normal dream.

886
00:44:54,400 --> 00:45:02,360
I would pay attention to when they feel almost like hyper color or hyper detail or feeling

887
00:45:02,360 --> 00:45:06,800
that you have inside of you that you just can't replicate because a lot of people have

888
00:45:06,800 --> 00:45:09,120
dreams with a loved one that's passed away.

889
00:45:09,120 --> 00:45:12,360
And they'll ask me, was that really them?

890
00:45:12,360 --> 00:45:16,000
I'm like, did you feel like you were with them in that space?

891
00:45:16,000 --> 00:45:18,400
Yes, yes, then it's them.

892
00:45:18,400 --> 00:45:19,800
But you'll feel a difference.

893
00:45:19,800 --> 00:45:25,880
There's a difference between your brain processing something and you trying to sort it out in the

894
00:45:25,880 --> 00:45:27,840
subconscious mind.

895
00:45:27,840 --> 00:45:33,720
But dreams where a loved one will come in or a premonition usually just have a different

896
00:45:33,720 --> 00:45:35,960
quality to them.

897
00:45:35,960 --> 00:45:38,640
So pay attention when they feel a little bit different.

898
00:45:38,640 --> 00:45:44,560
But it sometimes just takes a moment where we have to sit and ask, like, why do I keep dreaming

899
00:45:44,560 --> 00:45:47,840
about losing my passport?

900
00:45:47,840 --> 00:45:53,360
It's sitting with it long enough to ask that question, like, what is my passport mean to

901
00:45:53,360 --> 00:45:54,360
me?

902
00:45:54,360 --> 00:45:56,240
What do I feel like I've lost?

903
00:45:56,240 --> 00:46:02,160
Because it's not usually the literal meaning.

904
00:46:02,160 --> 00:46:05,800
So asking yourself, like, what is a symbolism of the passport?

905
00:46:05,800 --> 00:46:10,880
Or do I feel like I've lost something that I'm trying to find again?

906
00:46:10,880 --> 00:46:11,880
Yeah.

907
00:46:11,880 --> 00:46:15,200
So sit with it and kind of you can journal about it and get curious.

908
00:46:15,200 --> 00:46:19,120
I would look at the reoccurring elements for details.

909
00:46:19,120 --> 00:46:21,480
I did have a dream with my grandmother.

910
00:46:21,480 --> 00:46:22,520
I think I told you about this.

911
00:46:22,520 --> 00:46:25,760
She had passed, and maybe it was six months.

912
00:46:25,760 --> 00:46:27,400
And in my dream, I was at my dad's house.

913
00:46:27,400 --> 00:46:30,440
She lived with him before until she passed.

914
00:46:30,440 --> 00:46:34,080
And I walked out onto the porch and he was sitting at the table with his wife and she was

915
00:46:34,080 --> 00:46:36,520
sitting there with him and they couldn't see her.

916
00:46:36,520 --> 00:46:39,880
But she looked at me and we made eye contact for like two minutes and she just kind of nodded

917
00:46:39,880 --> 00:46:40,880
her head.

918
00:46:40,880 --> 00:46:41,880
And that was the whole dream.

919
00:46:41,880 --> 00:46:43,640
I'm like, I know that was her.

920
00:46:43,640 --> 00:46:44,640
I know that was her.

921
00:46:44,640 --> 00:46:46,360
They stick with you.

922
00:46:46,360 --> 00:46:49,600
Like, yeah, they're very, very memorable.

923
00:46:49,600 --> 00:46:51,960
And you just know that there was something to it.

924
00:46:51,960 --> 00:46:52,960
Yeah.

925
00:46:52,960 --> 00:46:57,980
We've only got ten minutes left and I would be remiss if I didn't at least open the floor

926
00:46:57,980 --> 00:47:04,560
and say, "Elisa, is anything happening coming through for us that might be screaming that

927
00:47:04,560 --> 00:47:06,280
you need to tell us about?"

928
00:47:06,280 --> 00:47:09,960
Or even just whispering.

929
00:47:09,960 --> 00:47:13,920
Or do we have to wait till we stop recording to talk about it?

930
00:47:13,920 --> 00:47:14,920
No.

931
00:47:14,920 --> 00:47:17,640
Have you received an invitation?

932
00:47:17,640 --> 00:47:20,120
Maybe it hasn't come in yet.

933
00:47:20,120 --> 00:47:26,760
But from someone asking to be for you to be a part of a live event, have you received that

934
00:47:26,760 --> 00:47:28,160
invitation yet?

935
00:47:28,160 --> 00:47:36,160
The reason I asked that is because when I'm looking at this with your question, I'm seeing

936
00:47:36,160 --> 00:47:42,320
a stage and I'm seeing a microphone and I'm seeing you walking across the stage.

937
00:47:42,320 --> 00:47:50,280
So I know there's something, there's people in the theater, but it feels like part of like

938
00:47:50,280 --> 00:47:52,360
an in-person experience.

939
00:47:52,360 --> 00:47:59,800
So if you have never considered taking your show on the road to some degree, there could

940
00:47:59,800 --> 00:48:08,240
be some energy there around going into some cities and having people come enjoying you

941
00:48:08,240 --> 00:48:14,480
live as part of a live show experience, but it feels like you're going to be getting more

942
00:48:14,480 --> 00:48:22,360
invitations as well to bring your voice and your stories on stage.

943
00:48:22,360 --> 00:48:23,360
Wow.

944
00:48:23,360 --> 00:48:24,360
I love that.

945
00:48:24,360 --> 00:48:26,320
I'm just going to put it out there right now.

946
00:48:26,320 --> 00:48:29,520
If you're listening or watching this and you have an event you want us to go to, that's

947
00:48:29,520 --> 00:48:31,080
no, we're completely open.

948
00:48:31,080 --> 00:48:32,960
Not only that, but I want Elisa to be right.

949
00:48:32,960 --> 00:48:33,960
Yes, me too.

950
00:48:33,960 --> 00:48:39,880
Yeah, there's a show, a true crime podcast called Crime Junkeys.

951
00:48:39,880 --> 00:48:41,880
I know it.

952
00:48:41,880 --> 00:48:43,760
And they do a live tour.

953
00:48:43,760 --> 00:48:47,720
And so as I was channeling on that, I could even see like little symbolism about their

954
00:48:47,720 --> 00:48:49,520
live tour.

955
00:48:49,520 --> 00:48:56,200
So you may want, they just put out an episode not too long ago where it's them inside of an

956
00:48:56,200 --> 00:48:57,200
auditorium.

957
00:48:57,200 --> 00:49:02,880
So if you want to start to kind of get ideas or channel on that yourself, you might want

958
00:49:02,880 --> 00:49:05,280
to look at their episode and see what they're doing.

959
00:49:05,280 --> 00:49:07,680
You know, my only fear, I mean, that sounds great.

960
00:49:07,680 --> 00:49:13,480
My only fear is what happens when we go live here is that we have this big press tour and

961
00:49:13,480 --> 00:49:17,440
we do the live event and we open up the curtains and there's two people in the audience.

962
00:49:17,440 --> 00:49:19,240
And that would hurt my heart.

963
00:49:19,240 --> 00:49:21,560
Start small.

964
00:49:21,560 --> 00:49:26,920
You can do an in person event that has 25 people and you say there's 25 tickets and when

965
00:49:26,920 --> 00:49:28,680
they're gone, they're gone.

966
00:49:28,680 --> 00:49:33,600
So you start getting more in person interaction is what I'm feeling.

967
00:49:33,600 --> 00:49:39,480
Like your brand is going to have something to do with an in person gathering, but it feels

968
00:49:39,480 --> 00:49:41,080
like it's not just one city.

969
00:49:41,080 --> 00:49:47,560
So it feels more like the energy of maybe just a few cities and then limiting how many

970
00:49:47,560 --> 00:49:51,160
tickets there are and create that scarcity.

971
00:49:51,160 --> 00:50:00,000
Your lips because that is literally the thing I have been trying to manifest.

972
00:50:00,000 --> 00:50:01,000
Okay.

973
00:50:01,000 --> 00:50:02,000
Whatever.

974
00:50:02,000 --> 00:50:03,000
There you go.

975
00:50:03,000 --> 00:50:04,000
Maybe that's what you're picking up from me.

976
00:50:04,000 --> 00:50:05,000
I don't know, but there is a.

977
00:50:05,000 --> 00:50:06,000
It's going to happen.

978
00:50:06,000 --> 00:50:10,920
Oh, that's amazing because when I sit down to think, you know, when I say you, you know,

979
00:50:10,920 --> 00:50:12,800
what, what does your life look like?

980
00:50:12,800 --> 00:50:16,960
You know, the best case scenario or whatever that that might, my thought is always I'm traveling

981
00:50:16,960 --> 00:50:22,880
the world talking to people about this stuff and it's not that I'm an expert in anything,

982
00:50:22,880 --> 00:50:24,840
but rather I'm helping connect people.

983
00:50:24,840 --> 00:50:26,160
That's really what I see.

984
00:50:26,160 --> 00:50:28,720
Care in myself, our daughter, we just travel in the world and that's really what we're

985
00:50:28,720 --> 00:50:29,720
doing.

986
00:50:29,720 --> 00:50:30,720
That's what we want our lives to be.

987
00:50:30,720 --> 00:50:31,720
So, oh, oh, please.

988
00:50:31,720 --> 00:50:32,720
There you go.

989
00:50:32,720 --> 00:50:33,720
There you go.

990
00:50:33,720 --> 00:50:34,720
Create the scarcity.

991
00:50:34,720 --> 00:50:37,720
Oh, limited number of tickets available.

992
00:50:37,720 --> 00:50:39,880
And they're just adding us on.

993
00:50:39,880 --> 00:50:45,000
There may be something that you bundle with the ticket.

994
00:50:45,000 --> 00:50:49,160
So they're taking me back to something you did at the very end of your very beginning of

995
00:50:49,160 --> 00:50:54,280
this episode where you had a free ebook when you sign up for the email list.

996
00:50:54,280 --> 00:50:55,280
There's something like that.

997
00:50:55,280 --> 00:50:57,000
You'll come up with it.

998
00:50:57,000 --> 00:51:01,160
It'll be creative and amazing, but it feels like it's not just the ticket, but there's

999
00:51:01,160 --> 00:51:05,120
something like bundled with the ticket for the tour.

1000
00:51:05,120 --> 00:51:11,240
So let the sky be the limit on what your creative brains come up with.

1001
00:51:11,240 --> 00:51:12,240
But there's something.

1002
00:51:12,240 --> 00:51:16,840
Something like, you know, if you buy a ticket, you get to donate to our fund too.

1003
00:51:16,840 --> 00:51:19,720
There's something that they get.

1004
00:51:19,720 --> 00:51:22,160
There's like something in addition to the ticket it feels like.

1005
00:51:22,160 --> 00:51:23,160
So, yeah.

1006
00:51:23,160 --> 00:51:24,160
Cool.

1007
00:51:24,160 --> 00:51:26,680
Well, that sounds exciting.

1008
00:51:26,680 --> 00:51:27,880
We have just a couple of minutes.

1009
00:51:27,880 --> 00:51:31,120
I want to make sure that we cover anything that you really want to make sure that we talk

1010
00:51:31,120 --> 00:51:35,000
about because I know that you were nice enough to come and be a guest on a live show.

1011
00:51:35,000 --> 00:51:36,000
So we want to make sure that.

1012
00:51:36,000 --> 00:51:37,000
Thank you for that.

1013
00:51:37,000 --> 00:51:38,000
Yes.

1014
00:51:38,000 --> 00:51:39,000
Yes.

1015
00:51:39,000 --> 00:51:40,000
Huge thank you for that.

1016
00:51:40,000 --> 00:51:42,000
I want to go to you if they want to work with you.

1017
00:51:42,000 --> 00:51:43,000
What's the best way for that?

1018
00:51:43,000 --> 00:51:47,200
Yeah, whether it's a class or you want to do a past life session or a deep dive into your

1019
00:51:47,200 --> 00:51:50,280
life, go to the website, everything's on the website.

1020
00:51:50,280 --> 00:51:54,560
My social media accounts are on the website, spiritenspark.com right there.

1021
00:51:54,560 --> 00:51:55,560
Spiritenspark.com.

1022
00:51:55,560 --> 00:51:57,560
It's like you knew.

1023
00:51:57,560 --> 00:51:58,560
It's like magic.

1024
00:51:58,560 --> 00:51:59,560
Wow.

1025
00:51:59,560 --> 00:52:00,560
Yeah, I manifested it.

1026
00:52:00,560 --> 00:52:01,560
It's magic.

1027
00:52:01,560 --> 00:52:03,560
Yeah, there's something really cool.

1028
00:52:03,560 --> 00:52:07,560
I've got on the well, two cool things I would mention that are both free.

1029
00:52:07,560 --> 00:52:09,280
One is on the homepage.

1030
00:52:09,280 --> 00:52:11,800
I have a 10 minute reset audio file.

1031
00:52:11,800 --> 00:52:16,120
You can download to your own device and you can use it whenever you need an energetic reset.

1032
00:52:16,120 --> 00:52:19,440
So that's on there and that's free.

1033
00:52:19,440 --> 00:52:25,000
And then in the menu of the website, you're going to see something that says summer speaker

1034
00:52:25,000 --> 00:52:27,240
series or something to that degree.

1035
00:52:27,240 --> 00:52:34,120
The summer speaker series, I have 12 different speakers and it's all totally free.

1036
00:52:34,120 --> 00:52:41,080
I'm not going to upsell anything and it's 12 brilliant people that are going to kick

1037
00:52:41,080 --> 00:52:44,760
off with Rick Levine, who is a legendary astrologer.

1038
00:52:44,760 --> 00:52:47,640
The week of the beginning, official beginning of summer.

1039
00:52:47,640 --> 00:52:52,280
And so every week there'll be a new speaker and a new talk coming out.

1040
00:52:52,280 --> 00:52:55,160
Suzanne Geesman is one of the speakers.

1041
00:52:55,160 --> 00:52:56,160
She's awesome.

1042
00:52:56,160 --> 00:52:57,160
She was actually.

1043
00:52:57,160 --> 00:52:58,160
Yeah.

1044
00:52:58,160 --> 00:53:02,120
Oh, so she was actually one of the very, when I told her the story about going to the

1045
00:53:02,120 --> 00:53:06,600
outreach on synchronicity in New York at the very beginning, she was one of the people

1046
00:53:06,600 --> 00:53:07,600
running that retreat.

1047
00:53:07,600 --> 00:53:08,600
Oh, wow.

1048
00:53:08,600 --> 00:53:10,120
And that's all my gifts dropped in.

1049
00:53:10,120 --> 00:53:13,200
So now I'm interviewing her all these years later.

1050
00:53:13,200 --> 00:53:18,200
So yeah, so that's coming up and I would love people to be a part of that and they can jump

1051
00:53:18,200 --> 00:53:22,120
on Zoom and ask questions of the speaker in real time.

1052
00:53:22,120 --> 00:53:23,120
Cool.

1053
00:53:23,120 --> 00:53:26,040
So this is a virtual event or is it live virtual?

1054
00:53:26,040 --> 00:53:31,320
Well, the live piece is on Zoom and people can join that live audience and then anybody

1055
00:53:31,320 --> 00:53:36,440
that can't make it, it'll come out a few days later on YouTube and on Substack.

1056
00:53:36,440 --> 00:53:39,000
And I'm going to mention this.

1057
00:53:39,000 --> 00:53:42,040
This is kind of top secret because I haven't announced it yet.

1058
00:53:42,040 --> 00:53:46,040
But we won't tell anybody.

1059
00:53:46,040 --> 00:53:54,840
I have a project that I am launching on June 25th on Substack and it's going to be taking

1060
00:53:54,840 --> 00:53:59,040
some different things I've done over the years and blending them together and it has to

1061
00:53:59,040 --> 00:54:04,240
do with unsolved crimes and psychic abilities.

1062
00:54:04,240 --> 00:54:06,240
Oh, okay.

1063
00:54:06,240 --> 00:54:07,240
Yeah.

1064
00:54:07,240 --> 00:54:08,240
Interesting.

1065
00:54:08,240 --> 00:54:09,240
Yeah.

1066
00:54:09,240 --> 00:54:11,240
You heard it here.

1067
00:54:11,240 --> 00:54:15,960
You should definitely connect with the Lisa on Substack because you don't want to miss

1068
00:54:15,960 --> 00:54:16,960
that.

1069
00:54:16,960 --> 00:54:21,240
So you've added one subscriber at least because I got to know.

1070
00:54:21,240 --> 00:54:22,240
Yes.

1071
00:54:22,240 --> 00:54:23,240
Well, all right.

1072
00:54:23,240 --> 00:54:25,680
Well, Lisa, you are wonderful.

1073
00:54:25,680 --> 00:54:26,680
Thank you so much for coming on.

1074
00:54:26,680 --> 00:54:27,880
I'm being a guest on our show.

1075
00:54:27,880 --> 00:54:28,880
This has been so much fun.

1076
00:54:28,880 --> 00:54:29,880
The time flew by.

1077
00:54:29,880 --> 00:54:33,200
I think we need to have you on like five more times.

1078
00:54:33,200 --> 00:54:36,240
We only have, we're like, what, four questions.

1079
00:54:36,240 --> 00:54:37,240
I think so.

1080
00:54:37,240 --> 00:54:38,240
So we still have a lot of help.

1081
00:54:38,240 --> 00:54:39,240
Sorry, everybody.

1082
00:54:39,240 --> 00:54:40,240
I'm so sorry.

1083
00:54:40,240 --> 00:54:41,240
Yeah.

1084
00:54:41,240 --> 00:54:44,400
So what we might do with maybe we'll send you a list and you know, you can, we can, I

1085
00:54:44,400 --> 00:54:45,400
don't know.

1086
00:54:45,400 --> 00:54:46,400
I won't figure it out.

1087
00:54:46,400 --> 00:54:47,400
Yeah.

1088
00:54:47,400 --> 00:54:48,400
I'd love to come back.

1089
00:54:48,400 --> 00:54:49,400
Okay.

1090
00:54:49,400 --> 00:54:50,400
Well, then there you go.

1091
00:54:50,400 --> 00:54:53,000
Maybe the show's not changing from the Skeptic Musicians live to the Skeptic Musicians

1092
00:54:53,000 --> 00:54:54,000
and the Lisa Hawking live.

1093
00:54:54,000 --> 00:54:55,000
Perfect.

1094
00:54:55,000 --> 00:55:02,000
Thanks for having me.

1095
00:55:02,000 --> 00:55:12,000
I look forward to next time.

1096
00:55:12,000 --> 00:55:13,000
We do too.

1097
00:55:13,000 --> 00:55:14,200
Talk to you soon.

1098
00:55:14,200 --> 00:55:18,040
Okay.

1099
00:55:18,040 --> 00:55:20,620
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