Is That Intuition or Anxiety? Here's How to Finally Tell the Difference

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Karen, I love it.

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Me too.

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Nope, what do we love?

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Nope, I love when we have New York time bestselling authors on our show.

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Oh, me too.

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You know why?

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I love it.

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Why do you love it?

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Well, because there's this tool thing called the Quantum Entanglement.

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Right?

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That means that then we must also be New York time bestselling authors.

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You're trying to like get in.

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You don't know the sucker fish on the shark.

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Do you want to know what our latest bestselling book is called?

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I do.

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It's called Practical Intuition.

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But that was quite a while ago.

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Now we happen to have just released another book called The Prison.

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Yes.

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And it just so happens that we have very nicely mapped the seven developmental wounds

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that silently run people's lives and gives them practical intuition-based systems to rebuild

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them from the inside out.

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Oh, wow.

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And by we, I of course mean that today's guess is done all that for which we thank

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her profusely because again, Quantum Entanglement and all that.

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She's the shark.

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Today we're going to learn how to differentiate between anxiety and intuition, how to turn

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trauma into transformation and pathology into potential, and how to consciously design our

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next chapter.

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Ambition is enough.

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I think so.

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Then let's get started.

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Skeptimization starts now.

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I think I just have a skipping move.

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It's a division.

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It's a division.

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It's close enough.

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All right.

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My name is Will.

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And I'm Garrett.

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And unlike Molder and Scully, we both want to believe.

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So we've embarked on a journey of discovery.

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We've talked to people deeply entrenched in the spiritual and metaphysical world.

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We've thrown ourselves into weird and wonderful experiences.

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I even joined a covenant with you.

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And, wait.

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You joined a covenant?

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Yep.

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All in the interest of fighting something-

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Anything.

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That will prove that there's something beyond this physical-

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Three-dimensional world we all live in.

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This is the Skeptic Medifiscions.

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Hey, there I will.

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And I'm Garrett.

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Welcome back to the Skeptic Medifiscions.

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Show where your gut feeling has to pass a fact check for it to change your life.

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Wow.

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A guest today's New York Times best-selling author, a consultant to a billion-dollar companies

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and anyone who has ever had a feeling they couldn't shake.

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And the woman that Demi Moore calls her greatest gift.

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And what we're name-dropping, she's pretty charming.

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We're Jennifer Aniston and Nicole Kidman, too.

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But anyway.

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And Tang on that.

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Tang on that.

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We are very charming with those people, too.

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But she's here to convince even the Skeptics in the room that intuition isn't mystical.

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It's a skill.

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And that feeling that you can't shake apparently has a name, a structure and a system.

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She's the author of the prism, seven steps to heal your past and transform your future.

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She's appeared on the Oprah Winfrey show, Good Morning America, The View CNN, ABC News,

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The Today Show Hollywood Reporter, and has now finally made it onto the Skeptic Medifiscions.

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Laura Daze, my absolute pleasure to welcome you to the show.

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Welcome to The Big Time.

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Welcome back to the Big Time.

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And I love me, Skeptic.

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Well, then you are in good company because we ask the questions that need to be asked, right?

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We're not cynical.

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We just want to make sure that we understand these things dramatically.

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You are from the New York area, so you completely understand why I am the way I am.

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I can't just take things on face value.

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And the thing that struck me, one of the many things struck me when I was doing research

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on you, but one of the things that struck me most about you is how intuitive you are.

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And some of the things that you have done that have proven and showed your intuition.

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Of course, I won't call you psychic because you don't like that.

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So I'll just say you're very intuitive.

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And so...

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And she still came on our show.

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So you might want to check your settings because you may be off of it.

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But so you wrote this book about intuition.

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And now you've gone further into the totality of who we are, right?

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Which is the prism.

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And you explained to us that concept, that metaphor of the prism.

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Yes.

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The initial seed I didn't come up with, the...

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The scent structure of a human being, which I call the prism, is...

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It really follows the chakras, which are millennia old.

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But we are energetic machines.

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And to take that down from the esoteric, what we do creates our world.

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And unfortunately, who we are creates what we do.

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And even more unfortunately, who we are was created by our genetics in the first seven

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years of our life before we could say, "Hey, I'm the responsible one.

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That does not make sense.

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I don't accept that.

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We didn't have that questioning capacity."

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And so we...

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Our ego's, and ego gets a bad rap.

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Heaps creating the same life over and over.

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And I love.

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And it's like, "Oh, my God, this guy is completely different.

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No, he's not."

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But nonetheless, you have had some catalyst.

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No, he's not.

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But I know you're not going to listen.

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So we'll just wait two years until you're next.

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You know, good psych med break up.

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So the prism really isn't a book about changing yourself internally.

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It's about doing something different.

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And it's about the ego, which is much more line, but the ego is your eye.

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And without ego, you are a blob.

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You are just a blob of energy.

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And people speak about energy.

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If it's as if it's good or bad, it's not.

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Energy is neither good nor bad.

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It's how we create it.

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So that's really what the prism is about.

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Because I realized you can have all the information you can have.

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Everything going for you.

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And you can still mess it up.

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And what people need is a user's guide to themselves.

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I love that.

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Oh, yes.

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You say that we take all the same energy, but we react or refract it differently.

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That's kind of what makes us who we are.

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So what does it mean when you say that we all take in the same energy, but refract it differently?

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So you speak as a physicist.

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I mean, it is energy.

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It is all one energy.

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But what we do with it, yeah.

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And you see it simply.

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People walk into a room.

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And the room reorganizes according to how they interface.

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So that our energy is one.

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And every science now is basically speaking about the unified field, whether it's biology

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or the astrology, astronomy, I guess people don't think astrology is science.

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Astronomy.

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Some people don't think it's a science.

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Well, you know, and frankly, coming from three generations of scientists, science isn't

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doctors said were facts are now not facts.

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You know, when I was young, hydrogenated oils, synthetic oils were supposed to be better for

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you than natural ones.

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Now we know, at least for the moment, that's not true.

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And I was who will come and disprove it.

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And especially more complicated when we know if we're talking about quantum physics that we

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create our own reality.

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So perhaps natural oils might be better for those that are on that path.

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Well, others at the time, the other oil was better.

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That is an interesting point of view.

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I do think that as machines, we have a consensus reality and a consensus system.

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And my experience, you know, I never use, I believe, or even I think it really is experience.

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I'm 67 years old.

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I have been teaching for 45 years.

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And so I've had tens of thousands of people who are doing everything right the same way over

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and over again, for example.

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So I get to see you do this, this happens.

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And because I'm a little OCD, I document it all.

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So I document everything.

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And what I see is yes, people have subtle differences.

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And we are all unique, like, like, yuck.

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But the reality is the basic machinery is the same.

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And which I say, you know, when someone's shirt slips, I'm like, really, no one's ever seen

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a boob before, you know, machinery, the mechanics are basically the same.

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And that's fortunate for us because what works for A to get success, often works for B also.

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There is a, there's a mechanics to it, just like there's a mechanics to your car or your

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washing machine.

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And I think the more spiritual among us don't enjoy the idea that we actually are mechanical

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beings, you know, with a wonderful connection to something bigger that is also us.

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But we are and the good news is we can do something differently.

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The bad news is the answer is either not inside of you or you can't find it.

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The answer comes from a catalyst from something outside of yourself, which is why not only do

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I write self-help, but I open myself up to as many experiences as I can because I know,

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I no matter how intuitive I am, I'm going to walk into that same wall, thinking it's a

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door over and over again until a catalyst comes in and turns me even a tiny little bit,

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another direction.

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And so that's what self-help is for me and that's what changes.

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So how is it then if we all are similar machines, right?

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And you can sometimes put these two machines in the exact same environment and one is going

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to have such a different experience, like maybe they're refracting differently.

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Like why does someone, you know, do all the same things that someone else does and their

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life seems to be great and their life seems to be not great?

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First of all, they're actually probably not doing all the same things and they're certainly

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not doing it in the same way.

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But the other thing is, you know, staying with a car metaphor, you know, one car got its

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gear stripped early in life.

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And so it encounters a certain roadway and it can't navigate it until it goes and makes

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the repair.

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Or maybe it needs to change a different road, but it thinks it can drive that road, you

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know, because that's the road that's there.

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Whereas the other car has been well maintained and in its early building, everything was put

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in place and it has good maintenance because it learned good maintenance.

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I mean, the prism isn't for everyone.

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If you had a really great first seven years and if you are genetically pretty solid,

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the prisms were done and it's a waste.

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You know, the prism is for people who weren't equipped well in early childhood, you know,

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weren't there, their ego wasn't built, their structure wasn't built well and their three

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phases which I go into.

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You know, or it's, it is for people who just really want to make a change and they want

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to make it a little more quickly because people who are equipped, they can make any change

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and make it work, but sometimes it takes more time.

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So that's, you know, that's really a why and I am wonderful for children, one who doesn't

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function too, who have suicide and I really very early on in life looked for those catalysts

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and had the gift of having, having both a very weird brain and responsibilities I didn't

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have the information to deal with.

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So intuition, which is a survival skill, you know, good sociopaths are intuitive.

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You know, it's not a, it's not a kind of gift.

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It's just a brain wiring kicked in and it really saved my life.

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So the prism, you say is damaged by unresolved and unresolved developmental wounds, right?

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So but but you also mentioned that the person that dates the new guy who feels it's, he's

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completely different guy, but in fact is not, is not aware of the same choices that they're

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making.

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That's right.

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So someone becomes more aware so that they can stop making those choices.

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Well, that's really what the entire book is about, but it's, but in short, and the book is

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actually made in a way and I very much believe in this, that you don't have to understand it.

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All you have to do is go to the back of each section and if what you want is love, that's

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very much fourth and second egocenter.

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So I really take it apart and you do a tiny thing differently that does not resonate with

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you because if it resonates with you, I love it when people say, "Oh, I'm sorry, I'm sorry,

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oh, that didn't resonate with me."

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I'm like, "Uh, yeah, we want to make a change, you're going to have to do something that doesn't

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resonate because if it resonates, it resonates with the problem."

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You know, so for me, I'm not a going out person and when I wanted to make a big change in

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my life because something was going not well, I made myself say yes to invitations.

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I hated it.

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My feet still haven't recovered, but you know, high heels in New York, but it did completely

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change completely unrelated things in my life.

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Yeah, so because of ADD, I just forgot the question, so if I didn't have it.

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No, you did, but how, so here's a question based on what you just said.

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If these, this going out, change something completely unrelated.

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How did you, well, I mean, I think I'm going to be able to do that.

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How did you know that?

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So, one of the things I say that my publishers say nobody understands, but I disagree, is

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you cannot think outside the box.

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You are the box.

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So what I did is I looked at someone who had the thing that I wanted, the dynamic I wanted,

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and I'm being a little cagey because it was a personal thing and important and I was so

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happy when it was resolved.

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But I looked at what they did and one of the things they did was they just, you know,

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standing like a psychic here, said yes to life.

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And in a way that I found exhausting, you know, like all over the place, but I thought,

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because I'm pretty contained.

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I think it's really a waste of time.

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I mean, who wants to go to like a dog food opening, but, you know, I'm going to try it because

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this person has created what I want to create and it's the thing that I think resonates the

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least about her life with me.

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And I did.

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I just copied someone who had what I wanted and I copied something that I went like, oh,

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you know, and you see very quickly whether a new behavior will yield results or not because

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that's the other thing I don't like about these developmental tools.

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You have to have faith.

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If you have to have faith, it's not a tool.

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It is a belief with the prism and with, you know, even going on YouTube or finding a friend

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who has what you want and doing what you judge the most about their behavior, but that's still

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safe is that in a few days, you see a different result from left field things start happening differently

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because when you do something that doesn't resonate that's out of your reality, what happens

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is you encounter different people, different situations.

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I mean, there's nothing magical about this.

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Yes, in a more metaphysical sense, you also change your frequency because you're copycadding,

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you know, it's like they say smiling whether you're happy or not alerts your brain that you're

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happy and you feel happier.

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Faket to you make it.

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Which I don't always believe in.

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I mean, you know, piloting a plane, you don't want to fake it.

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Oh, yeah.

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Right.

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Good point.

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Really, it's so, so you can do it, you know, copy someone, but it, it, it shifts you.

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So the way you use the prism is you're okay.

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There are many ways.

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You know, one is to just notice from stem to stern, from the base of your spine to the

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top of your head because we're a road map.

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Where is it that I am, that I experienced stuckness?

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And often there is pathology in that area, you know, often that is where your back is

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right.

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It's where you have a little scoliosis or where your migraines originate, you know, often there's

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a, because we are, we're one system.

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When I used to do a lot of healing, people would come in and say, listen, you know, don't

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worry about the migraines, but I really want to fix the skin condition.

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But we're a system.

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And, and so when you change that, you change everything.

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But again, you can't do it.

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We're so encouraged to look inward, which is a fallacy.

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And you know, it's, it's some, it's the same kind of fallacy, which you have to heal before

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you fall in love.

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No, you, you, you're, you're hungry.

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You connect.

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And then your old baggage won't fit through that new door and then the work happens.

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But, but often getting what you want is the first step in healing.

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And then you've got to do the hard work to become someone who can meet it, but you do that

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by meeting it.

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I, I don't think the changes are made.

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I have my, my, my observation is people work on the same problem over and over and over

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and over again with no change.

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And then a bolt of lightning hits them and all of a sudden it's okay.

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And I, I hope for people listening that the one thing they take away is you've got to put

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yourself in those situations, doing something that doesn't feel right to experience that bolt

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of lightning.

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And then notice, notice what happens.

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If you don't get, if, if, if the pieces of what you want are coming in, then yes, you need

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to do something differently.

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So that's why we say that growth happens at the edge of your comfort zone, right?

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Because you're in the rut and you, you do the same thing going over again, nothing's

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going to change.

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But by the same token, if you, if you do something and in, differently and then you get

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what you want. And so now you're saying is now is when the work happens, right?

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But wouldn't a lot of people think, well, I got what I want.

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Now I'm happy and they don't even think about the work.

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Like do you find that that happens?

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No, I'm going to ask you because I don't think the work works that way.

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You know, we have this very punishing puritan, puritan.

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I've been learning French and I speak Italian and I, I'm, I have too many languages in

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my hand.

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You get that puritanical.

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You know, that somehow it has to come from, you know, has to be hard work and has to be

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punishing and you know, you only get rewarded if you're, you know, keep all like mamans.

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And that's just not how it works.

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I mean, you know, think, think now of the last thing you got that you really wanted.

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And then, oh my God, wow, your shows up seven notches and now you have to be in the public

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and wait, I forgot that I'm an introvert and I don't want to be that.

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I mean, I wanted so badly to be in, to be partnered and I was single for two years and and by

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the way, I knew that I picked from an old prism.

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So you know how I dated this time?

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My two friends who had 30 year marriages.

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I only dated men they picked for me.

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Wow.

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If someone or someone liked me at a party, for example, that was an absolute no go.

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I think, I'm serious.

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I was.

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I mean, that's impressive to be able to have that kind of for fortitude to, I mean, you

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like someone you like someone.

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I did something.

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Yeah, I did not want to, you know, I mean, yeah, it does, you know, the D word discipline,

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you know, it does take, it takes discipline because, you know, when I met my husband, he

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was so boring.

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He had no deep seated rage.

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He was employed.

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Oh, it was, you know, he had no significant psychopathology.

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It was so boring.

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And it didn't feel resonant at all.

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You know, I had a manic depressive mother.

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I had to remind to put clothes on before going out and then, you know, violent father, you

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know, who knew how to hit because he was a doctor, you know, new work, not leave a bruise.

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And I said, this man was so, I mean, you know, even killed and employed.

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And he was a screen and he'd be right or and he was like, oh, and I didn't know Hollywood

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rule that I've had my whole life and blah, blah, blah.

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Will you, I have been in this wonderful relationship for 15 years.

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And but I got what I wanted, which was someone who would love me and accompany me.

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I can't tell you everything was hard from having to all of a sudden share closet space to

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having to check if friends could come over negotiating children.

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I mean, you know, we were older, but negotiating, you know, grown children and even like what

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side of the bed you sleep in, by the way, the first man I've ever been with who was gainfully

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employed.

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When he first got a huge job in London and said, well, honey, I'll get you a fabulous house,

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you know, we're going to London.

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I'm like, like, how we are.

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Like, like, this may, I have a job.

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Like I have a fabulous house.

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And so there's a lot of negotiation.

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I got my wish.

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Yeah.

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But there was, it was a shitcho for a while.

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I mean, isn't it always.

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It's not saying it always is.

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And so you get your, a much more effective way is to do something differently.

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Encounter your wish in a way that it sticks long enough for you not to push it away, which

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when you, when you, in a disciplined way, change your behavior, it does.

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And then, you know, you're dealing, you're, you're interfacing with something outside of

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yourself.

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You know, you're a closed system.

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That doesn't change.

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I mean, it changes with age, unfortunately, but, you know, basically your structure doesn't,

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doesn't change.

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But when you're in, in interaction with anything, it changes.

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I mean, when I feel stuck even writing, I go out, I sit on a bench and I let someone strike

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up a conversation or I strike it up.

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It is an introvert.

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It's usually I wait for someone else to do it.

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And, and then I, something flows because they're a catalyst.

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So then how, where does, where does intuition fit into all this stuff?

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Because everything you talk about is very practical, make yourself uncomfortable, do something

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that doesn't resonate.

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You actually are very good at following your intuition to direct you in certain directs.

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I mean, you, you, you, I'm good at training people to be intuitive.

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You are your own worst intuitive.

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I am my own worst intuitive because you see what, you don't see what you don't see.

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Right.

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You find what you're looking for.

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You scare yourself to death or you give yourself fantasy, neither of which really helps.

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But what intuition does, intuition plays in a couple ways.

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One is there is a whole, what I call a non-local life that's going on that we have to be aware

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of.

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What do I mean by that?

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When you woke up this morning, who were you arguing with in your head?

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That's not in your head.

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That's actually happening.

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And when you, and my, my, my systems, my book show you how to do this, but when you check

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it out, you find, oh, wait, that person, a thousand miles away was actually having that

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discussion with you that you woke up with and then had for the next 45 minutes and

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completely ruled your day.

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Or when you're in a room, how much of you is really powerfully present?

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How much of you is remote viewing, astral projecting in another place?

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You know, same thing with pre-cognition.

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Pre-cognition, it's really important to refine your pre-cognition.

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So it is actionable day to day.

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And there are simple methodologies to do this because all of this isn't magical.

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We magicalize it because spirituality is a multi-billion dollar business.

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So why not make a book?

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But it really isn't hard.

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We are, we are structured that way.

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So it's very important to disengage from the part of intuition that has you not present

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in this moment, which is the only place you can make change and in your body and your

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personal reality, which is the only person who can make change.

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And it's also important to shift intuitions.

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So shift those non-local perceptions in a way and act and activations in a way that you

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are in dialogue with the world you want to be in dialogue with.

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So you are bumping into the future, the financing for your company, your next true love, whatever

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it is that you want to bump into.

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And that's the role intuition plays.

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So especially in the prism where you're restructuring, you don't just restructure the behaviors in

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your immediate life.

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You also restructure your intuitive behaviors, your non-local behaviors.

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And that is, that's just, you know, everyone's had the experience of you thinking about a friend

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and they call that and that haven't heard for them for two years or deja vu walking into

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a place.

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You know, we're actually pretty economical beings or we wouldn't survive.

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So if you are having a deja vu and not just obsessively following an ex with your telepathy

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and your remote viewing, if you're having a deja vu because of economy, there's a reason

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there's something for you there.

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And if you learn to say, "Ah, deja vu, what's my target?

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What's here that I might have missed without the deja vu?"

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We learn to actually use your intuition as another simple tool.

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We spend a lifetime training our intellect.

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That's what we go to school for.

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Training our emotions or we'd all be raping and pillaging.

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Training your intuition is so important to be not only a master of your present and your

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space and be able to direct it, but also to create good luck, which really is just really

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the ability to experience the future and make the change in the present.

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Wow.

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And I think this conversation is so important because we're talking about something that

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we haven't really discussed too much before.

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We've talked about intuition, but when you're talking about doing something that's not

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your norm that doesn't resonate with you, a lot of people might think, "Well, intuitively,

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I don't want to do that."

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When I think that's maybe just their comfort zone, right?

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They just don't want to be uncomfortable.

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And they're most thinking for intuition.

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They don't want to do it because none of us, we are mammals.

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Mammals, hey, change, change has risks.

475
00:27:15,760 --> 00:27:21,240
I mean, frankly, even for reptiles, shedding the space between having an old skin and getting

476
00:27:21,240 --> 00:27:24,720
a new one where your skin is shed, you're the most vulnerable.

477
00:27:24,720 --> 00:27:26,520
Nobody wants to do that.

478
00:27:26,520 --> 00:27:30,720
Which is why we put into place safe keeping behaviors.

479
00:27:30,720 --> 00:27:34,640
I mean, one of the things I see a lot is people say, "Oh, okay.

480
00:27:34,640 --> 00:27:39,560
I don't want to be a stockbroker, a trader anymore.

481
00:27:39,560 --> 00:27:40,920
I want to be a writer."

482
00:27:40,920 --> 00:27:42,400
I'm like, "Great."

483
00:27:42,400 --> 00:27:47,120
And half an hour every morning until you write your best seller, I would keep that million

484
00:27:47,120 --> 00:27:48,760
and a half a year job.

485
00:27:48,760 --> 00:27:56,880
You know, we do these kind of logic is also a gift.

486
00:27:56,880 --> 00:28:04,600
And so our first obligation as creatures is as mammals is to take care of the mammals.

487
00:28:04,600 --> 00:28:09,000
And then from there, you can do absolutely anything.

488
00:28:09,000 --> 00:28:11,000
And you really can do absolutely anything.

489
00:28:11,000 --> 00:28:17,320
I mean, I love, I make my living reading for multi-billion dollar companies.

490
00:28:17,320 --> 00:28:18,880
That is how I make my living.

491
00:28:18,880 --> 00:28:23,560
The rest I do in community and most of it I give away.

492
00:28:23,560 --> 00:28:29,880
And you know, these days it costs much more to write, publish and promote a book than you

493
00:28:29,880 --> 00:28:35,720
will ever, ever make in your return unless you're a gazillion dollar best seller with a huge

494
00:28:35,720 --> 00:28:39,520
media team behind you.

495
00:28:39,520 --> 00:28:45,680
But when we work together, we are each other's catalyst.

496
00:28:45,680 --> 00:28:55,560
And so that coming together with a filter, so with the filter of your own goals is so important.

497
00:28:55,560 --> 00:28:58,560
And I value, I just value that so much.

498
00:28:58,560 --> 00:29:02,880
You know, I go on live almost every day on Instagram and people say, oh, you're so generous.

499
00:29:02,880 --> 00:29:05,600
I'm like, yeah, not really.

500
00:29:05,600 --> 00:29:08,400
You are healing me because I can't heal me.

501
00:29:08,400 --> 00:29:10,200
I avoid what hurts.

502
00:29:10,200 --> 00:29:12,760
You are reading me because I can't see me.

503
00:29:12,760 --> 00:29:14,240
I have no perspective.

504
00:29:14,240 --> 00:29:18,920
No matter how brief and intuitive I am for someone else can't be myself.

505
00:29:18,920 --> 00:29:22,880
And we toss out community, which is unfortunate.

506
00:29:22,880 --> 00:29:33,120
And that's a, now I guess I understand when you say that you can't intuit for yourself.

507
00:29:33,120 --> 00:29:38,000
One of my questions was going to be how do we tell intuition apart from anxiety.

508
00:29:38,000 --> 00:29:42,480
That's a really great question and there is a way to tell.

509
00:29:42,480 --> 00:29:49,200
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510
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511
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512
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513
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514
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And somewhere along the way he built an equally precise framework for something most people

515
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leave entirely to chance.

516
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How to actually hear the intelligence that has been organizing your life all along.

517
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He calls it the Invisible Architect.

518
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And here's what makes John different.

519
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520
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521
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522
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You are not behind.

523
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You are simply out of alignment with the power that was already generating everything

524
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525
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526
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using the Invisible Architect alignment protocol.

527
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528
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529
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530
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He calls it the Blueprint.

531
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532
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533
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534
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535
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536
00:31:14,160 --> 00:31:24,160
How do we tell intuition apart from anxiety?

537
00:31:24,160 --> 00:31:25,520
That's a really great question.

538
00:31:25,520 --> 00:31:26,920
And there is a way to tell.

539
00:31:26,920 --> 00:31:33,200
And we can into it for ourselves, but not by running it through the brain.

540
00:31:33,200 --> 00:31:38,080
One of the things both the circle, which was my fourth book in the Prismar about, is let's

541
00:31:38,080 --> 00:31:43,920
not run the data through our brain because we'll reframe the data in a way that is old.

542
00:31:43,920 --> 00:31:53,120
But let's have goals that then intuition works often below conscious awareness to have us

543
00:31:53,120 --> 00:31:58,800
encounter in the world, the people, the circumstances, the information that we need.

544
00:31:58,800 --> 00:32:06,120
There is a, again, there is a mechanical way to engage intuition without having to, you

545
00:32:06,120 --> 00:32:12,360
know, sit as the high priestess in purple that allows us to create our lives.

546
00:32:12,360 --> 00:32:14,280
And proof is important.

547
00:32:14,280 --> 00:32:19,600
You know, I think belief, belief is a wonderful, courageous thing that I do not entertain.

548
00:32:19,600 --> 00:32:24,520
Because if I'm jumping out of a burning building, I want to know the tensile strength of that

549
00:32:24,520 --> 00:32:25,520
trampoline below.

550
00:32:25,520 --> 00:32:27,360
I don't want to leave.

551
00:32:27,360 --> 00:32:30,120
It's going to be able to catch me and save my life.

552
00:32:30,120 --> 00:32:33,400
I think it's really important to be skeptical.

553
00:32:33,400 --> 00:32:36,640
Skeptical people are healthy people.

554
00:32:36,640 --> 00:32:43,760
Now my favorite phrase is, the good scientist suspends, doesn't get rid of suspends disbelief

555
00:32:43,760 --> 00:32:46,480
and runs the experiment anyway.

556
00:32:46,480 --> 00:32:48,840
But the experiment needs to prove itself.

557
00:32:48,840 --> 00:32:51,920
So if what you're doing isn't working, do something else.

558
00:32:51,920 --> 00:32:54,000
And again, it's not inside you.

559
00:32:54,000 --> 00:32:57,000
And of course, I've totally forgotten the question.

560
00:32:57,000 --> 00:33:02,960
I just spent three days with like, we seven sensors on my head to see how my brain works.

561
00:33:02,960 --> 00:33:04,800
So I have the glue out of my hair.

562
00:33:04,800 --> 00:33:05,800
I can't tell you.

563
00:33:05,800 --> 00:33:09,160
The question was, how do you tell intuition from anxiety?

564
00:33:09,160 --> 00:33:11,200
Oh, so that's a wonderful question.

565
00:33:11,200 --> 00:33:16,200
And people ask it because people confuse that so much.

566
00:33:16,200 --> 00:33:17,600
You're subconscious.

567
00:33:17,600 --> 00:33:23,040
That wonderful thing that's going on below your awareness will repress anything you can't

568
00:33:23,040 --> 00:33:24,360
do something about.

569
00:33:24,360 --> 00:33:26,040
Because otherwise you wouldn't survive.

570
00:33:26,040 --> 00:33:27,040
You would disintegrate.

571
00:33:27,040 --> 00:33:28,040
You would fall apart.

572
00:33:28,040 --> 00:33:33,200
And if anyone's ever been overwhelmed, that's what happens.

573
00:33:33,200 --> 00:33:38,600
Intuition is accurate, which you don't know sometimes till after the fact.

574
00:33:38,600 --> 00:33:41,480
But it's actionable.

575
00:33:41,480 --> 00:33:45,560
If you think you're going to die in a car crash, and you've felt that way since you were

576
00:33:45,560 --> 00:33:49,640
a child, I guarantee you will not die in a car crash.

577
00:33:49,640 --> 00:33:52,160
Intuition doesn't tell you things.

578
00:33:52,160 --> 00:33:57,840
If you're about to have something land on you and end your existence in the next 20 seconds,

579
00:33:57,840 --> 00:34:01,640
not time to move out of the way, intuition isn't going to tell you anything.

580
00:34:01,640 --> 00:34:05,240
It's going to allow you to enjoy those 20 seconds.

581
00:34:05,240 --> 00:34:12,000
So if there's nothing to do about it in this moment, it's not intuition.

582
00:34:12,000 --> 00:34:16,200
It's a little OCD and they're very good meds for that.

583
00:34:16,200 --> 00:34:20,040
Or breathing exercises or whatever.

584
00:34:20,040 --> 00:34:22,680
Intuition tells you.

585
00:34:22,680 --> 00:34:24,320
Intuition doesn't tell you anything.

586
00:34:24,320 --> 00:34:29,360
Intuition illuminates the can-do in any situation.

587
00:34:29,360 --> 00:34:37,960
It can also illuminate how to find the next belief that you want to make more solid.

588
00:34:37,960 --> 00:34:41,560
If you believe all love will let you down.

589
00:34:41,560 --> 00:34:44,960
Your intuition can help you find the next lover to let you down.

590
00:34:44,960 --> 00:34:52,240
That's why it is every single one of my systems start with, what are your goals?

591
00:34:52,240 --> 00:34:56,000
What's your target as if you were shooting an arrow to a bull's eye?

592
00:34:56,000 --> 00:35:02,240
Is that the most important organizer for intellect, emotions, intuition, and anything else?

593
00:35:02,240 --> 00:35:04,720
Any other resource that you have?

594
00:35:04,720 --> 00:35:07,720
How does that correlate to other people's intuition?

595
00:35:07,720 --> 00:35:13,200
For example, you predicted Demi Moore's researches before the substance.

596
00:35:13,200 --> 00:35:15,960
How were you able to...

597
00:35:15,960 --> 00:35:20,800
Well, you can predict for somebody else you have perspective.

598
00:35:20,800 --> 00:35:22,920
It's just for yourself.

599
00:35:22,920 --> 00:35:28,640
It's very hard to predict because you know you, you have your hopes, you have your fears,

600
00:35:28,640 --> 00:35:29,640
you have no...

601
00:35:29,640 --> 00:35:31,400
You're not looking at anything.

602
00:35:31,400 --> 00:35:32,720
You're inside of it.

603
00:35:32,720 --> 00:35:35,800
I don't know about your closet.

604
00:35:35,800 --> 00:35:41,360
But mine, I must have 100 white shirts and I can never find one.

605
00:35:41,360 --> 00:35:42,880
It's a mess in there.

606
00:35:42,880 --> 00:35:45,080
Same thing with your being.

607
00:35:45,080 --> 00:35:48,800
It's a wonderful, creative, complicated mess in there.

608
00:35:48,800 --> 00:35:50,600
You cannot look for it.

609
00:35:50,600 --> 00:35:54,520
My housekeeper comes and she goes, "Oh, here's the white shirt."

610
00:35:54,520 --> 00:35:56,520
She's not in it.

611
00:35:56,520 --> 00:35:59,640
So when you're in it, you can't find it.

612
00:35:59,640 --> 00:36:01,640
But actually, I do at...

613
00:36:01,640 --> 00:36:05,840
Soho House has been so nice to me and they have these clubs all over the world.

614
00:36:05,840 --> 00:36:10,920
Whenever I go to any city because I get bored if I'm not working, I do a free event at Soho House.

615
00:36:10,920 --> 00:36:12,240
They let me have a guest list.

616
00:36:12,240 --> 00:36:16,720
So my advance, my boot campers, which is what I call my training, they can come and we

617
00:36:16,720 --> 00:36:22,600
can all meet and we can eat together and drink too much together.

618
00:36:22,600 --> 00:36:27,440
I have in those events and the reason they're packed, they're standing room only.

619
00:36:27,440 --> 00:36:29,960
I mean, there's definitely super-spitter events.

620
00:36:29,960 --> 00:36:32,960
And I'm so convinced.

621
00:36:32,960 --> 00:36:38,800
In 20 minutes, people who have never done any intuition and often press comes and they're

622
00:36:38,800 --> 00:36:39,800
there to out me.

623
00:36:39,800 --> 00:36:42,240
They can't out me because I'm not doing anything.

624
00:36:42,240 --> 00:36:44,840
I'm just making them do something.

625
00:36:44,840 --> 00:36:50,320
They do perfectly amazing readings and actually we had this incredible reporter come to one

626
00:36:50,320 --> 00:36:55,800
in Danielle Waller who has since written a gazillion articles about me in London.

627
00:36:55,800 --> 00:37:00,760
And she came, you know, she's doing for a research but she did the exercise because I bully

628
00:37:00,760 --> 00:37:01,760
people.

629
00:37:01,760 --> 00:37:02,760
People have to do the exercise.

630
00:37:02,760 --> 00:37:04,760
You cannot just sit there.

631
00:37:04,760 --> 00:37:11,960
And those Danielle and her partner are still in contact because they read each other so

632
00:37:11,960 --> 00:37:12,960
well.

633
00:37:12,960 --> 00:37:13,960
Wow.

634
00:37:13,960 --> 00:37:19,400
It is an innate gift which is why I do a bootcamp.

635
00:37:19,400 --> 00:37:21,520
I do a group where people come together.

636
00:37:21,520 --> 00:37:26,360
They get training and then for the rest of their life, they read each other because it's

637
00:37:26,360 --> 00:37:29,640
really important to read in community.

638
00:37:29,640 --> 00:37:34,440
You know, I have a, I really don't like things like for example medical intuition, practicing

639
00:37:34,440 --> 00:37:36,880
medicine without a license is a felony.

640
00:37:36,880 --> 00:37:39,440
There are people who are qualified.

641
00:37:39,440 --> 00:37:45,520
Now I love medical intuition and I do it for a doctor for their patients.

642
00:37:45,520 --> 00:37:46,520
There's always the doctors.

643
00:37:46,520 --> 00:37:51,400
So I'm a doctor, you can tell me I'm like no, you're not your doctor.

644
00:37:51,400 --> 00:37:57,400
But you know, same thing like people call me the psychic of Wall Street.

645
00:37:57,400 --> 00:38:06,960
I wouldn't, I once by mistake I gave financial advice on a radio show but it was bought

646
00:38:06,960 --> 00:38:08,800
totally by a slip.

647
00:38:08,800 --> 00:38:15,560
It was you know 2008, I think or 2007, I predicted a credit crunch and I got a lot of support

648
00:38:15,560 --> 00:38:20,360
but that's actually so such a not okay thing to do.

649
00:38:20,360 --> 00:38:25,440
What if I had been wrong and some pensioner had like taken their money out of the market.

650
00:38:25,440 --> 00:38:26,440
You can't do that.

651
00:38:26,440 --> 00:38:32,960
Now I read the market for people who are educated enough to know the difference as my son says

652
00:38:32,960 --> 00:38:37,240
between being incredibly psychic and that shit crazy.

653
00:38:37,240 --> 00:38:42,920
Well then I guess it did not, we shouldn't ask you to give us some tips there because

654
00:38:42,920 --> 00:38:44,680
the answer to find me no, that point.

655
00:38:44,680 --> 00:38:46,840
So we're going in a different direction, Karen.

656
00:38:46,840 --> 00:38:50,440
So you're going to ask about the stuff.

657
00:38:50,440 --> 00:38:52,160
I was, so I was.

658
00:38:52,160 --> 00:38:55,520
So I want to go to one of these events first of all.

659
00:38:55,520 --> 00:39:01,200
I don't know where you're located but come to one of the events because you can do it online

660
00:39:01,200 --> 00:39:06,200
every morning, people I go I mean morning, I try them all the different time zone but

661
00:39:06,200 --> 00:39:07,880
everyone's seen my pajamas.

662
00:39:07,880 --> 00:39:11,200
I always have lipstick but everyone's in my pajamas and.

663
00:39:11,200 --> 00:39:13,360
Me too, the surprise of that.

664
00:39:13,360 --> 00:39:20,080
And people come on and there's a little YouTube video that you can do on my Instagram to see

665
00:39:20,080 --> 00:39:24,840
how you do it in online reading and people tag each other and do readings and the thing

666
00:39:24,840 --> 00:39:30,480
is is I don't read civilians except in my workshop or for free on a live.

667
00:39:30,480 --> 00:39:34,760
I just I don't I have an ethical problem with giving that kind of information to people.

668
00:39:34,760 --> 00:39:38,640
I don't know if they have a therapist, I don't know, I don't know their situation well enough

669
00:39:38,640 --> 00:39:40,680
to feel comfortable doing that.

670
00:39:40,680 --> 00:39:46,080
But we're a community where I do feel comfortable because there are a lot of other people supporting

671
00:39:46,080 --> 00:39:47,560
this community.

672
00:39:47,560 --> 00:39:50,840
But rank beginners give completely good readings.

673
00:39:50,840 --> 00:39:56,360
You tag someone you don't know what their question is, what their target is and you do whatever

674
00:39:56,360 --> 00:40:02,680
the reading system is for the day, whether it's Clare audience or pre cognition or remote

675
00:40:02,680 --> 00:40:04,200
viewing.

676
00:40:04,200 --> 00:40:08,080
People give amazing readings and of course I have a lot of professionals on this site but

677
00:40:08,080 --> 00:40:14,880
because I don't read civilians, my students, I just if someone wants an intuitive, I send

678
00:40:14,880 --> 00:40:20,080
them to one of my gifted students and so they the way that I know they're still reading

679
00:40:20,080 --> 00:40:25,240
well and ethically is by the readings they do on the Instagram because I don't have time

680
00:40:25,240 --> 00:40:29,680
to like check up on everyone one on one and you know in a phone call.

681
00:40:29,680 --> 00:40:36,120
So you get the model of what does a good reading look like and of course I also read because

682
00:40:36,120 --> 00:40:42,640
the best way to model is to do what you're doing and a good way to read live is to read in

683
00:40:42,640 --> 00:40:46,920
a way that the other person like the group does has no idea what you're talking about but

684
00:40:46,920 --> 00:40:48,400
the person you're talking to does.

685
00:40:48,400 --> 00:40:53,040
And by the way, once in a time reading you have no idea what you're talking about and

686
00:40:53,040 --> 00:40:59,560
the other like I mean I read technology firms, this is no joke.

687
00:40:59,560 --> 00:41:05,720
I didn't have a TV in my bedroom until I married a television movie writer but I don't

688
00:41:05,720 --> 00:41:13,280
know how to turn on my TV and I do very intricate technology readings.

689
00:41:13,280 --> 00:41:19,440
I have no idea what I'm talking about and they're like yeah, I'm done.

690
00:41:19,440 --> 00:41:24,120
And I still don't can't turn on my TV.

691
00:41:24,120 --> 00:41:28,280
So you made a comment earlier about people like proof.

692
00:41:28,280 --> 00:41:34,520
Can you give us some people like proof, smart people only do things where there is proof.

693
00:41:34,520 --> 00:41:35,520
Okay.

694
00:41:35,520 --> 00:41:41,480
Can you give us some examples where people have solidly seen visible proof after learning

695
00:41:41,480 --> 00:41:44,720
how to use their intuition or sure.

696
00:41:44,720 --> 00:41:47,800
You know, I have no memory of and I'm not going to make things up.

697
00:41:47,800 --> 00:41:51,400
So let me, I'm going to have to give you an example from me.

698
00:41:51,400 --> 00:41:54,480
What I do have is I keep a bank of emails.

699
00:41:54,480 --> 00:41:59,240
So sometimes I review those because people when they have proofs they often email me.

700
00:41:59,240 --> 00:42:00,240
I did this.

701
00:42:00,240 --> 00:42:02,560
Oh, I do remember one.

702
00:42:02,560 --> 00:42:08,680
So we did the fourth egocenter which is about value.

703
00:42:08,680 --> 00:42:12,800
It's about how you're compensated in the world and one of the things and it's your

704
00:42:12,800 --> 00:42:14,800
heart but it's really your value.

705
00:42:14,800 --> 00:42:21,480
And so, so the whole group, we do an eke, we do one issue together as a group for about

706
00:42:21,480 --> 00:42:24,120
a month and a half and then we switch.

707
00:42:24,120 --> 00:42:25,800
So we were doing wealth.

708
00:42:25,800 --> 00:42:32,640
We were doing value and wealth and how are you compensated and someone in our group who

709
00:42:32,640 --> 00:42:37,280
was about to lose her home with, I don't know what you call it when you can't pay your

710
00:42:37,280 --> 00:42:38,680
mortgage and they take it.

711
00:42:38,680 --> 00:42:39,680
For closure.

712
00:42:39,680 --> 00:42:41,480
For closure, thank you, God.

713
00:42:41,480 --> 00:42:52,000
We received an unasked for IRS refund from like years before that more than covered her

714
00:42:52,000 --> 00:42:54,080
mortgage for a few months.

715
00:42:54,080 --> 00:42:55,080
Yes, please.

716
00:42:55,080 --> 00:42:56,080
Wow.

717
00:42:56,080 --> 00:43:02,800
It was really, and by the way, it's not cost free because I, and here I am extra, I always

718
00:43:02,800 --> 00:43:07,480
want to tell people when I have proof of something and when I'm extrapolating but I am, here

719
00:43:07,480 --> 00:43:15,240
I'm extrapolating but I am sure that in order to engage that, that person had to pick something

720
00:43:15,240 --> 00:43:16,760
uncomfortable.

721
00:43:16,760 --> 00:43:24,280
Like I'm going to go out and talk to someone who I think doesn't want to talk to me and if

722
00:43:24,280 --> 00:43:27,760
I'm not valued, I'm going to end the conversation and move on.

723
00:43:27,760 --> 00:43:33,240
Like there's something that that person did to change the vibration that was unpleasant

724
00:43:33,240 --> 00:43:39,240
and probably didn't get a good result the first or second time because we again change in

725
00:43:39,240 --> 00:43:41,240
interaction.

726
00:43:41,240 --> 00:43:44,320
But they got, and that's true across the board.

727
00:43:44,320 --> 00:43:52,120
I mean, I love the emails I get because they really are, you know, at the second Ego Center

728
00:43:52,120 --> 00:43:55,280
people's digestive problems, you know, resolve.

729
00:43:55,280 --> 00:44:04,280
But that again, I always differentiate between what is something that you know is intuitively

730
00:44:04,280 --> 00:44:07,880
based and what is something that maybe you just reassured yourself.

731
00:44:07,880 --> 00:44:15,080
But at the second Ego Center also, here's one, we had an artist who was also, I forget

732
00:44:15,080 --> 00:44:19,040
what her other job was but she had been an artist and childhood and just had never booked

733
00:44:19,040 --> 00:44:23,200
a show except like little shows in a park where you're not.

734
00:44:23,200 --> 00:44:24,880
She got, I forget.

735
00:44:24,880 --> 00:44:29,800
She was a German speaking country but she got a huge, like booked a huge show and she always

736
00:44:29,800 --> 00:44:31,400
applied for all these shows.

737
00:44:31,400 --> 00:44:34,760
Like she took her credit, she didn't give up.

738
00:44:34,760 --> 00:44:39,760
But when we were doing the second Ego Center which is creativity, nourishment, creativity

739
00:44:39,760 --> 00:44:44,440
and abundance, you know, when you're born, if you're not nourished, you have nothing to

740
00:44:44,440 --> 00:44:47,840
create with, if you have nothing to create with, you can't be abandoned.

741
00:44:47,840 --> 00:44:52,880
No magic there, you know, it's, it's, so you go back and you do different things in the

742
00:44:52,880 --> 00:44:54,440
world to change that.

743
00:44:54,440 --> 00:44:55,920
She booked a huge show.

744
00:44:55,920 --> 00:45:00,800
I can't honestly say I know if she sold stuff there or whatever because usually people, when

745
00:45:00,800 --> 00:45:03,000
they get what they want, they're not interested in anything.

746
00:45:03,000 --> 00:45:04,680
She got to show though, right?

747
00:45:04,680 --> 00:45:05,680
Yeah.

748
00:45:05,680 --> 00:45:06,680
She's got to show.

749
00:45:06,680 --> 00:45:07,680
Yeah.

750
00:45:07,680 --> 00:45:10,640
So I'm hearing you say is that everyone has a division.

751
00:45:10,640 --> 00:45:14,680
It's not just people who are advanced psychic people, right?

752
00:45:14,680 --> 00:45:16,080
Everyone can tap into the stuff.

753
00:45:16,080 --> 00:45:21,520
Like you know, most psychic people live in happy, smelling fifth floor walk-ups and

754
00:45:21,520 --> 00:45:22,520
mouth.

755
00:45:22,520 --> 00:45:27,800
I mean, you know, it, one of the things I insist with my students, once they're trained,

756
00:45:27,800 --> 00:45:35,960
I make them charge a living wage because, you know, it, most intuitives aren't functional

757
00:45:35,960 --> 00:45:39,080
because you need the prism, you need the structure.

758
00:45:39,080 --> 00:45:43,680
Not just the information, information, we all have too much information.

759
00:45:43,680 --> 00:45:50,000
It's the ability to take that intuitive information, that other kind of information and do something

760
00:45:50,000 --> 00:45:51,000
with it.

761
00:45:51,000 --> 00:45:53,000
And that's really important.

762
00:45:53,000 --> 00:45:55,720
Intuitives don't tend to be successful people.

763
00:45:55,720 --> 00:46:02,240
They tend to be psych patients or, you know, very codependent because they've never really

764
00:46:02,240 --> 00:46:05,840
formed those boundaries that an ego gives us.

765
00:46:05,840 --> 00:46:13,360
You know, I was very lucky to a have to survive early, but also to be frankly born in a socioeconomic

766
00:46:13,360 --> 00:46:18,800
group and in a medical family where I got a whole lot of psychiatry and education and

767
00:46:18,800 --> 00:46:21,680
things that grounded me.

768
00:46:21,680 --> 00:46:28,640
Otherwise, you know, I remember when I had my very first neuropsychival at 16 because I was

769
00:46:28,640 --> 00:46:33,520
having anxiety and they said, "Do you see things other people don't see and do you hear things

770
00:46:33,520 --> 00:46:34,520
other people don't hear?"

771
00:46:34,520 --> 00:46:39,640
And I was naive enough at that point to say, "Yes."

772
00:46:39,640 --> 00:46:47,280
And luckily, what I was hearing about him was accurate and he did not want it repeated.

773
00:46:47,280 --> 00:46:50,080
And he said to me, "You're not crazy.

774
00:46:50,080 --> 00:46:51,080
You're very strange."

775
00:46:51,080 --> 00:46:57,280
But you're not crazy and he gave me a prescription for something to calm me down.

776
00:46:57,280 --> 00:46:58,280
Oh, wow.

777
00:46:58,280 --> 00:47:01,400
It's a good thing I was going to ask how the war's like that.

778
00:47:01,400 --> 00:47:04,000
Did I have to pay in Whitney Psychiatric Center?

779
00:47:04,000 --> 00:47:05,000
Right.

780
00:47:05,000 --> 00:47:07,360
That was what I was afraid you were going to say, yeah.

781
00:47:07,360 --> 00:47:08,360
So you...

782
00:47:08,360 --> 00:47:12,200
Where, by the way, both my sisters had spent some nice time.

783
00:47:12,200 --> 00:47:14,200
Some nice time, yeah.

784
00:47:14,200 --> 00:47:18,520
Well, go there. I know what happened there. So I'm sorry to have brought that up, but no

785
00:47:18,520 --> 00:47:20,120
bell laureate.

786
00:47:20,120 --> 00:47:22,480
Dr. James D. Watson.

787
00:47:22,480 --> 00:47:24,880
And that's the one, the movie stars.

788
00:47:24,880 --> 00:47:25,880
Everyone says, "Oh, yeah."

789
00:47:25,880 --> 00:47:27,360
And Brad Pitt, but hello.

790
00:47:27,360 --> 00:47:28,360
Yes.

791
00:47:28,360 --> 00:47:29,360
James Watson?

792
00:47:29,360 --> 00:47:30,360
Hello.

793
00:47:30,360 --> 00:47:32,680
James Watson, who is the co-discover of DNA.

794
00:47:32,680 --> 00:47:37,600
This is the pre-eminent scientist here.

795
00:47:37,600 --> 00:47:40,000
But he's endorsed your work.

796
00:47:40,000 --> 00:47:43,520
Framing the intuition is a background sense of how things should work.

797
00:47:43,520 --> 00:47:46,320
Hiding the brain in tuition is logic.

798
00:47:46,320 --> 00:47:51,240
So this is not something that you're just coming up with and putting out there.

799
00:47:51,240 --> 00:47:57,480
These are things that very esteemed Nobel laureates are endorsing.

800
00:47:57,480 --> 00:48:01,400
So people tend to stand up and take notice of when things like this happen.

801
00:48:01,400 --> 00:48:04,480
Well, I can pull by your show that...

802
00:48:04,480 --> 00:48:08,840
I mean, we know that Einstein was the first psychic commentator, right?

803
00:48:08,840 --> 00:48:10,800
He just found it very strange and scary.

804
00:48:10,800 --> 00:48:12,920
But, yeah.

805
00:48:12,920 --> 00:48:17,520
You dropped a little nugget earlier in the show that I want to touch on real quick.

806
00:48:17,520 --> 00:48:22,200
You make most of your living reading Fortune 500 companies.

807
00:48:22,200 --> 00:48:26,120
So again, these are people who typically wouldn't go for this type of thing.

808
00:48:26,120 --> 00:48:28,240
They probably should have 100.

809
00:48:28,240 --> 00:48:29,240
Okay.

810
00:48:29,240 --> 00:48:30,240
I mean, there you go.

811
00:48:30,240 --> 00:48:31,640
Even more so.

812
00:48:31,640 --> 00:48:37,600
These are people that typically have thrown away any thought of anything who and are here.

813
00:48:37,600 --> 00:48:40,560
I'd correct you before you finish that sentence.

814
00:48:40,560 --> 00:48:42,080
Please, by all means.

815
00:48:42,080 --> 00:48:45,840
Business, successful business, uses what works.

816
00:48:45,840 --> 00:48:47,240
It doesn't care how it works.

817
00:48:47,240 --> 00:48:49,320
Often doesn't even care if it's legal.

818
00:48:49,320 --> 00:48:52,320
It just cares that it works.

819
00:48:52,320 --> 00:48:58,440
Actually, the person in crisis is more of a skeptic.

820
00:48:58,440 --> 00:49:03,480
Even if you're proving yourself, you know, your methods work, then a business.

821
00:49:03,480 --> 00:49:06,680
The reason they are successful is they use what works.

822
00:49:06,680 --> 00:49:15,480
And we do have this big mythos around finding your trauma or finding your problem.

823
00:49:15,480 --> 00:49:18,880
And the fact of the matter is, do what works your problem will be the first guest who shows

824
00:49:18,880 --> 00:49:21,040
up at that party and you'll find a solution.

825
00:49:21,040 --> 00:49:25,720
You know, we've all had, we all have things that don't work.

826
00:49:25,720 --> 00:49:27,760
There are solutions out there.

827
00:49:27,760 --> 00:49:33,360
But yes, I started not as a, you know, I went to a school called Stibeson in New York City,

828
00:49:33,360 --> 00:49:36,080
which are all math and science nerds.

829
00:49:36,080 --> 00:49:43,880
And I was, I was sent there right after my very progressive mother died by my father who thought,

830
00:49:43,880 --> 00:49:46,640
yeah, she should learn to at least add.

831
00:49:46,640 --> 00:49:52,400
And I got through the test because I'm intuitive and could figure out the bubble to fill in.

832
00:49:52,400 --> 00:49:58,480
But I started, didn't start from even any kind of spirituality or theology.

833
00:49:58,480 --> 00:50:05,920
I started because in the early 80s, institutions, the military, what they were all

834
00:50:05,920 --> 00:50:09,680
interested in, oh, ESP, how does it work?

835
00:50:09,680 --> 00:50:11,840
Can we see our remote location?

836
00:50:11,840 --> 00:50:14,280
We didn't have the instrumentation we have now.

837
00:50:14,280 --> 00:50:20,080
We couldn't find even where tumors started the same way we can now inside of a body.

838
00:50:20,080 --> 00:50:24,680
So brains like mine were very interesting to the scientific community.

839
00:50:24,680 --> 00:50:27,680
Now by the way, machinery can do it even better than I can.

840
00:50:27,680 --> 00:50:29,720
You know, you get an MRI.

841
00:50:29,720 --> 00:50:33,920
It's, you know, people come in, it's another of my clients will say, well, what do you see

842
00:50:33,920 --> 00:50:34,920
in my kidney?

843
00:50:34,920 --> 00:50:37,520
I'm like, go get an MRI.

844
00:50:37,520 --> 00:50:39,160
It's going to be more accurate.

845
00:50:39,160 --> 00:50:43,200
But back then that was not the case.

846
00:50:43,200 --> 00:50:47,200
We didn't even have sonograms back then.

847
00:50:47,200 --> 00:50:49,920
And so I was part of a lot of research.

848
00:50:49,920 --> 00:50:54,720
So I really learned with this is a hit or this is a miss.

849
00:50:54,720 --> 00:51:03,280
And I stopped when, 34, 33 years ago, when my son was suckling at my bosom and a group of

850
00:51:03,280 --> 00:51:05,680
researchers came down from our university.

851
00:51:05,680 --> 00:51:08,880
I, an Ivy League, I will not mention by name.

852
00:51:08,880 --> 00:51:14,680
And they said, as I'm suckling my child at my bosom, yes, I will put radioactive dye in your

853
00:51:14,680 --> 00:51:18,400
brain and will be able to see what your brain does when you have a hit or a miss.

854
00:51:18,400 --> 00:51:20,080
I was, no, thanks.

855
00:51:20,080 --> 00:51:21,080
I'm done here.

856
00:51:21,080 --> 00:51:25,360
I, you know, at that point I had been, I don't know, tested for 10 years.

857
00:51:25,360 --> 00:51:27,680
I was like, yeah, I'm done here.

858
00:51:27,680 --> 00:51:32,040
I'm, I'm satisfied, you know, because I always in with my family wanted to know, you

859
00:51:32,040 --> 00:51:33,880
know, am I psychic or psychotic?

860
00:51:33,880 --> 00:51:37,360
Lucky be very careful of that little line on the same.

861
00:51:37,360 --> 00:51:42,240
And that's why I also love proof because if you are hearing things other people don't

862
00:51:42,240 --> 00:51:47,160
see here and seeing things other people don't see and they're not proofable, they're not

863
00:51:47,160 --> 00:51:51,640
actionable in a healthy way, then you really should see it, doctor.

864
00:51:51,640 --> 00:51:52,640
Right.

865
00:51:52,640 --> 00:51:53,640
Right.

866
00:51:53,640 --> 00:51:56,640
So, can I guess by the way?

867
00:51:56,640 --> 00:51:57,640
Yes.

868
00:51:57,640 --> 00:52:00,960
So you're working with these tech companies and these are big companies and not all tech.

869
00:52:00,960 --> 00:52:02,960
I just do one company from each.

870
00:52:02,960 --> 00:52:03,960
Okay.

871
00:52:03,960 --> 00:52:05,960
Because you can't work for two.

872
00:52:05,960 --> 00:52:06,960
Well, yeah.

873
00:52:06,960 --> 00:52:08,440
So I cancel each other out.

874
00:52:08,440 --> 00:52:09,440
Right.

875
00:52:09,440 --> 00:52:11,880
So, well, regardless of their company, you know, big groups.

876
00:52:11,880 --> 00:52:16,360
And I can understand how if you teach an individual how to change something with using

877
00:52:16,360 --> 00:52:21,480
intuition and effect change on their life and you're the individuals in the companies that

878
00:52:21,480 --> 00:52:23,960
you're reading, I guess they can understand how to do that too.

879
00:52:23,960 --> 00:52:27,280
But my question is, can they don't want to understand?

880
00:52:27,280 --> 00:52:28,720
They want me to predict this future.

881
00:52:28,720 --> 00:52:29,720
That's my job for them.

882
00:52:29,720 --> 00:52:30,720
Oh, okay.

883
00:52:30,720 --> 00:52:32,320
I don't teach them anything.

884
00:52:32,320 --> 00:52:33,840
And they're not interested in learning.

885
00:52:33,840 --> 00:52:37,720
They're already brilliant at what they do, which is why they head up multi-billion dollar

886
00:52:37,720 --> 00:52:38,720
companies.

887
00:52:38,720 --> 00:52:43,400
They want me to predict the future or do a little corporate spying or tell them what's

888
00:52:43,400 --> 00:52:50,640
wrong with the product or why their packaging isn't working or where they can find a commodity

889
00:52:50,640 --> 00:52:55,400
in a piece of on a map or they're not interested in learning.

890
00:52:55,400 --> 00:52:59,720
My students, that's why teaching is so much fun.

891
00:52:59,720 --> 00:53:03,560
Just as weird as I am and I so love that I cannot tell you.

892
00:53:03,560 --> 00:53:09,560
Well, I guess I can still somewhat ask the question, can people use this in community

893
00:53:09,560 --> 00:53:15,440
to affect changes outside of themselves, not to get into politics, but we're having a

894
00:53:15,440 --> 00:53:17,120
lot of division?

895
00:53:17,120 --> 00:53:22,560
Can people together in the community use this intuition to help heal those divides or

896
00:53:22,560 --> 00:53:26,240
to do anything to shift that current narrative?

897
00:53:26,240 --> 00:53:32,080
You know, the answer is yes and there was actually a really interesting Google, this experiment,

898
00:53:32,080 --> 00:53:38,720
an interesting transcendental meditation experiment done on violence called the TMPs project.

899
00:53:38,720 --> 00:53:44,520
And you know, with all of these things, 50% debunked them, 50% no, but I looked at that research

900
00:53:44,520 --> 00:53:46,680
and I think it's pretty damn convincing.

901
00:53:46,680 --> 00:53:54,040
So yes, you can do it simply energetically, but the other thing that tends to happen when

902
00:53:54,040 --> 00:54:00,880
someone's truly intuitive and not just using their intuition, hidden mist to get some power

903
00:54:00,880 --> 00:54:04,920
in the world, which there's a lot of those Bengali-ish types.

904
00:54:04,920 --> 00:54:07,640
When anyone tells me they have the truth, I think I'm running.

905
00:54:07,640 --> 00:54:09,360
I'm not running.

906
00:54:09,360 --> 00:54:20,000
But one of the things that does happen is that when you can experience our unity, you

907
00:54:20,000 --> 00:54:24,000
know, when you can experience someone else's feelings, when you can experience something

908
00:54:24,000 --> 00:54:28,800
that you can experience someone else's life, someone else's point of view, even if you don't,

909
00:54:28,800 --> 00:54:36,680
even if they horrify you, when you experience that, it's very hard to be divided.

910
00:54:36,680 --> 00:54:47,000
I would say, intuitives tend to go and my students tend to lose their differences very quickly,

911
00:54:47,000 --> 00:54:51,520
because all of a sudden you can experience all those points of view.

912
00:54:51,520 --> 00:55:02,000
Now it doesn't mean you abdicate your own integrity, but it's a more porous boundary for understanding.

913
00:55:02,000 --> 00:55:08,360
And I think that one of the reasons I love intuition is that it is unifying.

914
00:55:08,360 --> 00:55:15,040
And I hear a lot of people say when they first begin, "Oh, you know, when I've lost my money,

915
00:55:15,040 --> 00:55:18,240
everyone abandoned me or when I have a problem, everyone abandoned me, when I got a divorce,

916
00:55:18,240 --> 00:55:19,240
everyone abandoned me."

917
00:55:19,240 --> 00:55:25,920
And it's like, actually I can say my one experience in life because of intuition is when I have

918
00:55:25,920 --> 00:55:26,920
a challenge.

919
00:55:26,920 --> 00:55:28,520
Yeah, it's not like the challenge doesn't hurt.

920
00:55:28,520 --> 00:55:29,520
And you can Google me.

921
00:55:29,520 --> 00:55:32,640
I've walked into a hell of a lot of walls.

922
00:55:32,640 --> 00:55:39,400
But I have never not found barnraisers and communities to say, "Let me help you.

923
00:55:39,400 --> 00:55:41,120
How can I assist?"

924
00:55:41,120 --> 00:55:47,000
If one of the, again, fourth ego-center lessons is, if you are not loved and appreciated,

925
00:55:47,000 --> 00:55:49,200
you are in the wrong place.

926
00:55:49,200 --> 00:55:53,320
And intuition does help you in that way.

927
00:55:53,320 --> 00:55:59,560
You know, be in the right place because there, one of the things my husband had to get used

928
00:55:59,560 --> 00:56:05,920
to is the amount of people who will be living at my house at any given time because it's,

929
00:56:05,920 --> 00:56:09,600
it, it, it, you do feel that, that unity.

930
00:56:09,600 --> 00:56:15,920
And it's interesting how, in a sense, generosity, not compulsive generosity and not unsmart

931
00:56:15,920 --> 00:56:20,040
generosity, but generosity really gets generosity.

932
00:56:20,040 --> 00:56:25,800
I mean, if you, if you can take that extra moment and help somebody else, what, what you learn

933
00:56:25,800 --> 00:56:28,680
is everyone is you and you are everyone.

934
00:56:28,680 --> 00:56:33,600
And that is really, that is a concept in physics, that is a concept in the prism.

935
00:56:33,600 --> 00:56:39,440
It is a concept in most of my work that, that, that being helpful as long as it's not

936
00:56:39,440 --> 00:56:44,080
a risk to you actually helps you because we are part of that field.

937
00:56:44,080 --> 00:56:47,080
And people think everything but is worse off now.

938
00:56:47,080 --> 00:56:52,280
And a lot of the people who are saying that to me have like, you know, 40,000 square foot

939
00:56:52,280 --> 00:56:58,000
apartments or private plan, like, you know, most people have always had to work too many

940
00:56:58,000 --> 00:57:01,640
jobs and haven't had access to a lot of things.

941
00:57:01,640 --> 00:57:07,880
And, you know, that it is really wonderful that it's so visible now because now, now we

942
00:57:07,880 --> 00:57:13,640
all have to doom scroll, you know, when we're looking at the Instagram feed and realize,

943
00:57:13,640 --> 00:57:18,560
wow, maybe we need to do something about this because this, this is next door.

944
00:57:18,560 --> 00:57:20,120
Yeah, yeah, definitely.

945
00:57:20,120 --> 00:57:26,360
Well, your book is the prism, seven steps to heal your past and transform your future.

946
00:57:26,360 --> 00:57:27,360
You can find that.

947
00:57:27,360 --> 00:57:28,360
I assume everywhere.

948
00:57:28,360 --> 00:57:29,360
You just released it in April.

949
00:57:29,360 --> 00:57:31,720
I believe it was when it came out a year ago.

950
00:57:31,720 --> 00:57:33,040
A year on 25.

951
00:57:33,040 --> 00:57:34,040
That's right.

952
00:57:34,040 --> 00:57:35,040
That's right.

953
00:57:35,040 --> 00:57:36,560
And please, come on Instagram.

954
00:57:36,560 --> 00:57:38,040
Learn to read for free.

955
00:57:38,040 --> 00:57:40,720
Learn to use these, these things for free.

956
00:57:40,720 --> 00:57:41,720
I give a lot.

957
00:57:41,720 --> 00:57:43,600
I have to give a free workshop in 25 minutes.

958
00:57:43,600 --> 00:57:45,840
I give a lot of free workshops.

959
00:57:45,840 --> 00:57:51,080
It's really powerful when we do this in community and don't get sold on that you always have

960
00:57:51,080 --> 00:57:55,440
to get some certification and do these ridiculous things.

961
00:57:55,440 --> 00:57:58,680
This is a part of you and you need to learn to use it.

962
00:57:58,680 --> 00:57:59,680
Right.

963
00:57:59,680 --> 00:58:03,520
Well, we're going to add direct links in our show notes to your, all your stuff so that

964
00:58:03,520 --> 00:58:06,360
if you want to reach out to Laura, it's easy for you to do so.

965
00:58:06,360 --> 00:58:09,360
You just go to skepticmanivosition.com, find her episode page.

966
00:58:09,360 --> 00:58:12,040
We'll see the links later directly.

967
00:58:12,040 --> 00:58:13,640
Lord, you are amazing.

968
00:58:13,640 --> 00:58:15,440
Thank you so much for the wonderful conversation.

969
00:58:15,440 --> 00:58:16,440
You guys are amazing.

970
00:58:16,440 --> 00:58:18,080
You promised me an argument.

971
00:58:18,080 --> 00:58:20,320
I want to come on again at the next time.

972
00:58:20,320 --> 00:58:21,800
I want you to be brutal.

973
00:58:21,800 --> 00:58:22,800
Well, okay.

974
00:58:22,800 --> 00:58:25,080
You're still going to have a New York argument.

975
00:58:25,080 --> 00:58:26,080
Okay.

976
00:58:26,080 --> 00:58:27,080
All right.

977
00:58:27,080 --> 00:58:28,080
Well, you heard it here first, folks.

978
00:58:28,080 --> 00:58:29,080
She said she's going to come back.

979
00:58:29,080 --> 00:58:30,080
All right.

980
00:58:30,080 --> 00:58:31,080
All right.

981
00:58:31,080 --> 00:58:32,080
All right, Laura.

982
00:58:32,080 --> 00:58:33,080
Thanks so much for being on the show.

983
00:58:33,080 --> 00:58:34,080
Thank you.

984
00:58:34,080 --> 00:58:38,080
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985
00:58:38,080 --> 00:58:40,840
(bells chiming)