She Left Everything Behind for a Spiritual Awakening

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Karen, I got to ask you, have you heard about people who are

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going through spiritual awakenings and that their
life just doesn't make sense and it's just

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it just seems so much more difficult
and the point where they almost feel like

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they're having a breakdown of some sort. Well, I mean, that's my

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life usually, but there's no spiritual
awakening happening, so I'm missing something.

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Well, today we're going to talk
to someone who experienced something just like that.

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Her spiritual awakening was so profound that
she actually left everything behind to go

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on the spiritual journey to try to
make heads or tails out of what she

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was going through. Really exciting.
Wow, that's so brave. I don't

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know that I would have the courage
to do that. Yeah, and she's

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traveled all over the world in this
spiritual journey. She ended up in Bali,

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Indonesia, where she really opened up
to her spiritual gifts. Now these

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spiritual gifts I'm talking about right,
She's a channel, a medium, healer,

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and she works with spirit and energy
to help others emotionally, energetically,

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physically, and spiritually. How she
does this is really interesting because she serves

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as a vessel for healing and a
bridge to connect with spirit through help from

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source energy and her spirit, her
guides, which she calls Spirit Family twenty

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four. We'll get into that in
a second right. And she also channels

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those in a spirit realm who want
to come through and assist in it as

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well. She's traveled to Costa Rica, to London, Berlin, Istanbul,

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Egypt, Bali, and back to
the US twice within the year's time in

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twenty twenty one. Yes, Yeah, her story is absolutely fascinating and I've

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had the pleasure of sitting in on
some of her first initial sessions that she

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offered to folks while she was trying
to kind of wrap her mind around what

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she was experiencing. And I am
thrilled to have her on the show.

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Jennifer Foster, thank you so much
for coming on. Will and I'm Karen.

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warts and all Hey, everyone, welcome

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back to another, yet another Karen
another episode of the Skeptic Metaphysician. I

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can't believe how many we've done so
far. This was just a kind of

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a fun thing for a while,
but now, holy smokes, I know

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it's really grown. Yeah. Well, and today it's super exciting even more

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so. I know I say that
every time, but this is when.

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This one is super exciting and I
can't wait to introduce our guests with Jennifer

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Foster. Thank you so much for
coming on. Oh, I'm so happy

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to be here, so great to
be with both of you, will and

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just to see you again and cared
to meet you. Well, I know

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that Karen didn't for a massive treat. I did share with her a little

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bit of what happened on our last
session. Jennifer was kind enough to give

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me a session where her spirit family
came through and answered some questions. She

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actually sent me. They sent me
a healing, which was unbelievable, and

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we'll talk about that in a second. But then on top of that,

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she actually was able to channel people
that I know, and it was literally

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like I was talking to them.
Wow, it was fascinating. So let's

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just start at the very beginning,
Jennifer, you suffered incredibly when this started

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happening. Tell us about that.
What was that like for you? Well,

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it was strange, It was very
strange. My spiritual awakening started in

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two thousand and fifteen after a cycling
crash. I was hit by a band

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while I was on my bicycle and
I had what was called a spontaneous Kunelina

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awakening. And that's when I started
hearing voices and really thought I might be

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losing my mind. I knew I
had them ole brain injury, and I

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knew that my gifts of intuition and
the other you know, clere sentience that

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I had were all starting to just
really ramp up, very, very dramatically.

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So prior to that, I've been
a writer, a producer, a

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director. I've owned my own production
company for thirty years, so I very

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much walked in the business world.
I've worked with some of the biggest corporations

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in the world. I've worked with
governments. I've done really amazing projects,

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and there were times where I thought, why am I hearing that I'm going

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to write a book? Where's that
voice coming from? I know that's not

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me, and I know it's not
outside of me, and I couldn't really

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figure it out. And over the
next several years, so twenty sixteen,

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twenty seventeen, twenty eighteen, my
clairvoyance, my clear audience, my clere

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sentience, just my clear cognizance really
began to affect me in pretty dramatic ways.

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Let's just say, you know,
I was knowing things that I had

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no way that I should have known
them. I was hearing things, you

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know, on the other side of
a restaurant. I would be sitting in

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a restaurant and I could hear a
conversation that was happening on the other side

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of the room, and my spouse
would say, like, you can't even

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hear me when I'm talking to you
like a kid, Jay, how do

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you know what's going on over there? And so these things were happening.

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I was communicating with people telepathically in
some ways. There were times where I

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just knew what someone was thinking.
You know. It was just a lot

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and I think these are things that
a lot of us experience. They were

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just very, very heightened, and
we're ramping up and we're coming on very

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quickly. For me, in really
profound and dramatic ways. I had my

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world where I was very in the
public. I was part of an organization

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here in Orlando in twenty sixteen after
the Pulse tragedy, so I ended up

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in that executive director role leading that
organization. So I had this very public

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life, and I had this very
you know, business, buttoned up professional

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life. And then I would go
off to retreats and I would practice Kundalini

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yoga, and I very much had
this closeted spiritual life. And I was

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trying to navigate both of them and
really felt like I was being extracted from

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my life in some ways. It
was pretty dramatic as the years went on,

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and so towards the end of twenty
twenty one, I just knew,

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I've got to make some pretty dramatic
changes here, and I've got to get

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a grip on what's going on.
Nothing in my life seemed to fit anymore,

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and my spiritual gifts were really really
ramping up in dramatic ways. Did

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you automatically know that it was a
spiritual weakening or did you There must have

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been a point in time where you're
saying, I'm going insane, like this

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hit to my head. Did some
damage to me and I'm losing my mind.

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That's when I thought that. And
you know, I've been on a

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spiritual journey for twenty years or so. I'm fifty now, but for the

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past two twenty years I had practiced
meditation and yoga, and so I was

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very familiar with the spiritual journey and
things like the Dark Knight of the Soul

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and you know, things that people
go through when they are experiencing a spiritual

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awakening. So I very much recognized
that I was experiencing that, and I

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also reached out to medical professionals.
You know, I had a neuropsychologist,

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I had different brain scans. I
wanted to know why is that? You

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know, why am I deficient in
this particular area and then I have these

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heightened abilities in other places. You
know, my brain now works in ways

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that it didn't before the cycling accident, and much of that, I think

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is really a product of the work
that I did after the crash to retrain

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my brain. And we can do
that, we can build new neuropathways through

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through meditation. I did neuroop feedback. I work with a neuroophthalmologist, so

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I did quite a bit of work
to help get my brain in a position

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where I felt like I wasn't losing
my mind. And the thing that is

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under deniable is that the energies that
I was being affected by that were moving

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through me and around me. Regardless
of what my brain was doing and what

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I was hearing or what I was
knowing, I was physically feeling the energy.

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And that's something that was always reassuring
throughout the process, even when it

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was strange. So when all of
this was going on, and you know,

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you're hearing these voices and you're having
this awakening, did it have any

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sort of physical repercussions? Did you
get headaches? I mean, I think

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that just kind of freaked me out
a little bit. Yeah. So I'll

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skip forward now to when the team
stepped in, and that was when I

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was in Bali in March of this
past year, and I started hearing very

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specific voices who were talking to me
about very specific things. And it wasn't

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just this I was having it kind
of come and go. It was there

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all the time. The voices were
there all the time, and I was

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channel writing and I was I was
being blasted essentially with energy. You know,

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my hair started falling out a little
pit. I was physically exhausted.

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I would be channel writing and they
would be blasting me with energy. It's

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an interesting story how they identified when
they first came in. But they would

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say, you know, get in
the pool, go take a cold shower,

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because I was literally like I was
on fire. And so there was

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an integration process of the energies that
was very unsettling for the first several months.

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And it was because of the amount
of energy that I now am able

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to be a vessel for. And
so there was a there's a very intense

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process of training, testing, training, testing, and some of it was

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physical, some of it was psychological, and much of it was spiritual and

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emotional. Well, they all say
that spiritual weakening is not for the faint

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of heart. It is. It's
a struggle, right, it is.

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Every birth is difficult, whether it's
physical birth or spiritual birth. When you

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we go through a rebirth, it
is challenging and tough, and really it

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it's uncomfortable when you're talking about hearing
these voices, are you actually hearing the

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voices or they're in your mind?
Because I've always questioned, I've always wondered,

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I've heard people say that they've heard
voices before, but like when I

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hear your voice through my headphones right
now, I can identify that it's coming

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through my auditory canals and going to
my brain and it's being translated. Is

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that how you heard it or is
it more like a telepathic type of hearing.

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It's a combination. So I hear
ane sense, and the sensing is

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more like a knowing, which is
hard to explain when you're talking about like

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actually being communicated with and communicating with
on the other side, having a conversation.

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But it was more than just thoughts, you know. I was able,

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through my meditation work over years to
understand when is this my brain thinking,

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my thinking brain, which we all
have our voices, our brains talk

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to us. We have our egos
sometimes that pop up and talk to us.

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And so I was able to distinguish
that this is me and it's outside

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of me. And when I say
it is me, it's partially because my

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higher self's on board. My own
soul is part of the equation here,

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and so I hear now my higher
self speak to me in the same way

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that I hear my other guide,
my main guide, Adriana speak to me,

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which was also really challenging to understand. So it is actually hearing,

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but I'm also sensing and what I'm
still working on. And you know,

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everybody's experience is different when they're going
through a spiritual awakening, and I think

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mine is pretty dramatic. So I
don't want to scare anybody about spewakning.

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You know, there's a lot of
people waking up right now, and I'm

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speaking with a lot of people who
are going through really significant challenges in their

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life because of their spiritual awakening.
And what I have to believe is that

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we are meant to wake up at
a specific time because there is work that

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we are meant to do on this
planet. And so as disorienting as it

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can be, sometimes it is really
about like finally tuning into the energies.

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And so I have a team.
It's they refer to themselves as sole Family

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twenty four, So I actually team
of twenty four guides. Yah, it's

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pot family. I apologize, that's
okay, spirit soul, their energy and

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they all have different vibrations. So
Adriana, my main guide, speaks to

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me most of the time, as
well as my higher self, and when

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I'm not voice channeling them, which
took some work to be able to do.

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I can sense the fluctuation and energy, the very very fine differences and

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energy between who's who and so getting
ready for this interview today. There was

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a there was a fluctuation in the
energy, and I said, who is

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this? And because I didn't,
I couldn't identify who it is. And

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for the first several months of this
process, I would say every day,

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multiple times a day, who are
you and why are you here? And

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until they got very consistent about it, I would continue to ask because I

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had this internal knowing that something wasn't
being disclosed. And eventually they said,

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Okay, here's who we really are, here's why we're here, and here's

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the work that we're meant to do
together. The past several months have been

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training and testing and training and testing, and that's been in areas of discernments.

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It's been in when do you trust
your own intuition, When do you

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trust that own internal guidance system,
When are you in lined with your soul?

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When are you not? And that
was all tested before they would actually

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come forward and say this is who
we truly are. So for the first

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several months they identified as beings from
beyond, and much of the information was

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very strange, and that's I'm writing
a book about some of that information.

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But where I like to focus now
is where we are now, and that

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is you know. The Adriana eventually
identified herself and she said, we're here

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to help you be the healer that
you are meant to be. And I

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would say, I am not a
healer. What I don't you know,

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I don't understand what you're talking about. And I resisted that, and I

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resisted that. I resisted that,
and they said, you just need to

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remember who you are. And the
more that I would channel with people,

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the more things would open up,
the more I was able to feel.

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And it really was a remembering.
I was able to kind of feel into

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my body what is going on in
someone else's energetic system, feel in my

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body what's going on in someone else's
physical body. We're able to channel healings.

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The medium ship came through without even
me knowing I was a medium.

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I was. I was in a
group environment. We had just done a

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session with a group of friends of
mine and Bali and after the session,

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you know, everybody was sitting around
after the energy transmission just feeling lighter and

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feeling the bliss that comes from you
know, when we channel source energy.

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And a friend of mine said,
could you bring Reinert through? And I

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was just about say to her,
I'm not a medium, and my body

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just went roop and I just lean
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know, out of my mouth came
Hello Monica, and I felt the energy

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come through. By this time,
my brain multitasks in really interesting ways,

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so I can be channeling an energy
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I'm having a thought conversation with my
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time, just to verify that it's
the energy that's meant to be there,

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and that the information's coming through,
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so I was channeling him Reinert to
his wife and it was beautiful and I

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had no idea that was an ability
that I had, right, It just

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they didn't tell me it, you
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that would have been nice to know
that, right, But yeah, but

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why it was happening, you know, he was crying through my tears,

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you know, I my brain what
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think, you know, it's there's
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But when I'm channeling, I'm serving
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for my brain to step aside and
just allow the energy to come through,

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and my guides are there to help
protect that that energy is always there for

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the highest good of the individual that's
receiving. And so my brain just observes

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as my body and my voice is
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that happened in that first session,
and I thought, huh, okay,

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that's interesting. What else? And
you know, here we are now several

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months later. New things are still
opening up. I'm having sessions now with

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people that are just beautiful. The
healings that are happening, both physically and

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energetically and emotionally are pretty incredible.
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this process is unfolding in the way
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any claims to say I know how
all of this worked, because I'll ask

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my guides, well, how did
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do that? You know, we
had a session the other day with someone

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who walked in in really very uncomfortable
physical pain. And as soon as we

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started the session, she started feeling
better and started talking about that before we

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even did any energy work with her, and she said, I don't have

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that pain right now, in right
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did, you know, fifteen minutes
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healing, and she walked out with
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how that happens? No, I
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I know that we're channeling source energy, and I know that it is

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of love and light, and that
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we're creating a safe space for them
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to talk through, whatever they want
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main healing guide, leads all of
that experience to your point with your healing

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stuff. Right, everyone knows I'm
the skeptic in the bunch here. When

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you and I had a session,
one of the first things you did was

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was offer a healing, which I
graciously accepted, and we just we relaxed

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with closed our eyes and there was
an absolute energy transference that came into my

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body. Now, I've asked myself
this question many times since then, and

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the question is could it not have
been just me kind of like expecting,

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Okay, she's healing me now,
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happen. And the answer is sure, anything's possible. But the difference is

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I'd never experienced this energy before in
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my mind would have come up with
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I would never have expected it to
be like this. And I'm a niky

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energy practitioner, so I'm familiar with
energy transferences, but this was different.

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So what did it feel like like
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impossible to explain. It's impossible to
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where at the moment that she started, and it was almost instant, it

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was a being filled. Yeah,
I know, it's weird. I was

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being filled and it started from my
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It was just like wow. Remember
I'm I'm the scientist here, right,

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I'm always like me. I absolutely
felt this energy. And then, interestingly

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enough, after when I left,
when it was all said and done,

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because it was a lot more beyond
that that happened. But after we had

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you and I Karen had a conversation
and also I went, oh, my

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gosh, my back does not hurt
anymore. That right, And my back

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was not hurting like at all a
little bit, and right before I was

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having a hard time bending over the
time my shoes. So I can attest

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to the fact that this stuff is
wow out there. I don't understand it

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either, but man, I'm glad
you're out there. Thank you. How's

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your back now? It's it's better, It's it kind of came back after

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a few days. The pain did
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bad. So you know, you'll
hear from me again soon because it felt

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good to be pain free for a
while. Yeah, and that happens.

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And it's interesting. I had a
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actually last week, and she has
hernated discs in her back. Now we

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can't fix herniated discs, you know
that is a physiological condition. But she

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left without any pain, and she
said for several nights she hasn't even been

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able to sleep because she had such
significant pain. And her dog tore his

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meniscus and she said, can you
help my dog. I was like,

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I don't know, Let's give it
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her house this morning, and you
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dog, and her dog was running
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to your point of is it psychological? Is there something going on that you

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think, Oh, sure, I'm
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of that. But I have seen
this over and over and over with individuals,

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and I can feel the energy moving
through me, and yet I still

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don't know. I don't have a
medical background, I'm not a psychologist,

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all right, but I can see
the transformations happening in front of me over

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and over and over again, and
that is that's just a beautiful gift from

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source, from God, the universe, the fun energy that connects us all.

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So I wanted to ask you something
about what you mentioned a little bit

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earlier. Yeah, just because I'm
so curious. You said that you know,

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when your guides were coming in,
you identify them as or they identified

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as beings from beyond. Yes,
wasn't that scary? I mean I think

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like or was there just such a
feeling of love? Like? How was

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that the way that it happened for
me? I knew that there was something

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coming. I mean, I had
left my entire life behind. I had,

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you know, extracted and just left
my life. And so I was

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in Bali and I went to bed
one night and I said, God,

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I don't know what I am meant
to be doing. I have no idea

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why I'm here. I had just
had all of this magic unfold. I

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mean there was magical, magical things
that were unfolding for me throughout my travels.

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I mean I traveled around the world
during the pandemic, and I wouldn't

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recommend that for me. It allowed
for a lot of magic toold and really

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amazing, amazing ways. And so
I went to bed that night and I

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said, you know, guide me
where I meant to go and showing what

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I meant to know. And the
very next morning I got up and I

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heard go get your notebook, and
I went, who's that? Like what

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is that? And it was a
voice I hadn't It was something new to

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me. And I kind of walked
through almost like I was my My energy

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was not my own at that time. And I walked through and I went

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to my I went to my backpack
because I was thinking, I don't have

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a I don't have a I don't
like to journal. I don't have a

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notebook, you know, just hanging
around with me. And I went to

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my backpack and I just reached in
and I grabbed this little notebook that I

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bought like two days prior, and
I looked at it and went huh.

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And I started to walk out to
this gazebo where I would have my morning

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meditation, and just like that,
my body just turned around and it walked

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back into my villa and it reached
into my purse. I say it,

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it was me, reach into my
and I grabbed five colored markers that I'd

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carried around for about three years.
And I just stood there looking at that

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notebook and these markers, like I
have no idea what's about to happen.

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And I went out and I sat
down and I just started channel writing.

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And they introduced themselves, and the
first words that they wrote were love and

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peace. And so from the very
beginning they let me know that they were

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very benevolent. They were very much
about love and light and peace. And

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that's how it started. And so
as strange as it was, and because

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they identified as beings from beyond and
they were talking about planet nine, they

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were giving me information about the solar
systems, things that I had no idea

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about. I thought, well,
this is strange, and this isn't something

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my brain just came up with,
because it wasn't something that really interested me.

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And so I would just write,
you know, I would channel write.

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Was coming to me, and they
were teaching me how to communicate with

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them, and I had no idea. So about a week in I called

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my ex spouse and I said,
I just need someone to know what's going

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on. I need someone to because
I'm by myself and BALI and she said,

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well what are they saying? And
you know, totally open minded about

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this, and for somebody who knows
me, you know, we were married

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seventeen years, for somebody who knows
me like you know, better than anyone,

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to say, what are they saying? Give me the information. And

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then she checked it out and she
came back and she said, this all

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checks out. Ask them this,
ask them that. And so right off

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the bat there was this like Okay, maybe I'm not losing my mind.

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And again the energy that was coming
to me and the channel writing. I

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was writing with my left hand,
my right hand. They were doing very

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elaborate art projects with me. They
would say, you know, go buy

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some crayons, and so I would
sit and we would color, and I

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wasn't even looking at the colors of
the crayon. My hand would just go

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get a crayon, come back over, start drawing. And as they were

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drawing, they because it was my
hand just being used, you know,

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for them for their purpose. As
images were being drawn in front of me,

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they were telling me stories about my
life from their perspective, So childhood

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things. I don't want to talk
too much about it, but I ran

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away when I was four years old, and they said, you weren't four,

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you were three, You weren't quite
you weren't quite four yet. And

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they started to tell me the story
of where I went, how long I

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was gone, what I did during
that time, and then it was one

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story after the next after the next, all the way through my life.

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And so that was a little all
of this was a mind bender. It

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was like, how do you know
this about me? And also how do

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you know my perspective of it?
And also telling me your perspective of it.

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That was a very interesting process.
So, you know, that went

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on for quite a while. And
what they were doing now now I know

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they have told me that I had
some unresolved trauma that needed to be worked

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on before these gifts could open up. And I had dealt with a lot

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of these things in therapy over the
years, and that there were some little

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things that were still there, and
energetically we work them out through art.

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And so the way that I would
create these elaborate art pieces, I could

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have done it blindfolded because it wasn't
me. And that was another way of

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training me to work with energy.
So now when I'm doing a healing session

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with someone, when we're doing physical
touch, if there is any a lot

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of times it's hover. My hands
just hover and it works the same way

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as the medium ship. My brain
steps aside and my hands just go wherever

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the energy tells me to go.
And so my job is to not control

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it, is to just allow it
to be. And I should clarify that

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our healing session, why that you
gave me was virtual. We weren't even

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in the same space, So it's
not it's not just something that happens when

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you're in front of someone. Energy
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Energy is not local, and so
a lot of my sessions are done

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via zoom and we don't need to
be in the same place, so you

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know we can. I'd be happy
to send you both some healing today.

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I'm never gonna say no version experience. I know it's it's wonderful. We

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need to take a quick break,
but we'll be right back with more amazing

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conversation on the skeptic metaphysicians. So
the question then lies because we keep talking

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about how you started feeling these energies
come in and you literally uprooted yourself and

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went away. Well, it was
quite a destructive process. Will say that

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there's a process now of me kind
of learning who I am again and embracing

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these gifts, and part of me
feels like this isn't it yet. I

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still have I have some creative projects
I'm working on. I very much feel

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like this is unfolding still, and
at the same time, when I'm doing

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the sessions and the healing work,
I feel like I'm exactly where I'm meant

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to be and doing exactly what I'm
meant to be doing. And when I

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look at my life, it's been
that way throughout my entire career since you

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know, I started my company when
I was in my early twenties, and

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I always felt like I was meant
to be doing that. When I stepped

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into the community role here in Orlando
after the Pulse Nightclub shooting and helped to

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build that organization, I felt like
that was exactly what I needed to be

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doing at the time. And so
that's all soul alignment. That is,

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when you know that the work that
you're doing feed your soul, fulfills you,

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you feel like it's what you're meant
to be doing. That's it's the

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same way I feel now. I
say it was destructive because I wish I

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could have I could have some do
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I left my friends who said,
what is going on with you? We

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don't even know who you are anymore? I wish I would have had the

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understanding that I have now to say, this is an experience that I'm having

409
00:29:19.079 --> 00:29:23.799
that I really just need to figure
out, and it's unfolding, and I

410
00:29:23.880 --> 00:29:29.160
don't have enough information to be able
to even explain it to people. What

411
00:29:29.240 --> 00:29:33.039
I did was just say I gotta
go, you know, And and so

412
00:29:33.319 --> 00:29:34.799
that's when I say it was a
bit destructive. Now, I am so

413
00:29:34.880 --> 00:29:40.839
grateful to have extraordinary people in my
life who love me unconditionally and have supported

414
00:29:40.839 --> 00:29:45.960
me through this process and have just
held me through even some of the darkest

415
00:29:45.000 --> 00:29:51.240
moments in this process, because it
really is as a shakening off of your

416
00:29:51.240 --> 00:29:56.000
ego in some cases and a rebuilding
back up. The amount of work it

417
00:29:56.039 --> 00:30:02.599
took me to get comfortable even having
this relationship, if you will, with

418
00:30:02.839 --> 00:30:06.640
twenty four beings who are here all
the time was really challenging. There was

419
00:30:06.640 --> 00:30:10.119
times when I just tried to shut
my brain off and not think, because

420
00:30:10.640 --> 00:30:14.680
every thought I have, every motion
I make, everything I do is open

421
00:30:14.720 --> 00:30:18.200
for conversation. It's open for them
to kind of jump on. So you

422
00:30:18.200 --> 00:30:22.119
know, if I have a negative
thought, they'll say, why are you

423
00:30:22.200 --> 00:30:25.359
thinking like that? You know,
you know that that's not that that's not

424
00:30:25.519 --> 00:30:27.440
helpful. And there's been times where
I just say, I just want to

425
00:30:27.440 --> 00:30:30.799
be kissy right now. I just
you know, I'm human, I'm living

426
00:30:30.799 --> 00:30:36.519
this human experience. I'm a multi
dimensional being and I'm living a human experience,

427
00:30:36.559 --> 00:30:41.599
and so the humanness of me is
certainly not perfect, and so the

428
00:30:41.720 --> 00:30:45.480
process with them was really really challenging
for a little while. You know,

429
00:30:45.480 --> 00:30:48.599
it was like, you don't need
that because it comes in plastic and plastics

430
00:30:48.599 --> 00:30:52.839
destroying the planet. You shouldn't need
that because that's whatever it was. You

431
00:30:52.839 --> 00:30:55.119
shouldn't drink wine, you know.
And that's where I draw the line.

432
00:30:55.160 --> 00:30:57.160
It's like, I got kind of
thing. You've gone too far. Soul

433
00:30:57.200 --> 00:31:02.279
groups that'd do you? I ever
feel like an invasion of privacy. I

434
00:31:02.279 --> 00:31:03.960
mean, if they're there watching your
every move. I mean there's some moves

435
00:31:03.960 --> 00:31:08.680
I don't want anybody to know about. You know. Yes, they're in

436
00:31:08.680 --> 00:31:11.599
here a whole time. So I
had to get over. Well, I'm

437
00:31:12.039 --> 00:31:15.920
going to go to the bathroom,
because that's what we do. It's human.

438
00:31:15.039 --> 00:31:18.799
We have these bodies and we have
to go. I can't escape even

439
00:31:18.839 --> 00:31:22.519
there nothing, no, no,
you know. And there's been some funny

440
00:31:22.559 --> 00:31:26.920
moments where I think, gosh,
if there was a way to record what's

441
00:31:26.960 --> 00:31:32.680
going on in my thoughts with these
beings while I'm sitting on the toilet and

442
00:31:32.759 --> 00:31:37.799
having a conversation with her. It
needs to be funny because they're here all

443
00:31:37.880 --> 00:31:41.680
the time. And that's what's interesting
when I'm working with people, you know,

444
00:31:41.680 --> 00:31:45.960
when Adriana comes through, when I
allow her to take over my voice

445
00:31:45.559 --> 00:31:48.759
after someone's kind of told me what's
going on in their life. She'll come

446
00:31:48.799 --> 00:31:52.039
in and she'll say, I've been
here all along. I heard the whole

447
00:31:52.039 --> 00:31:55.519
thing. You don't have to repeat
anything. It's true. They're always here

448
00:31:55.559 --> 00:31:57.119
with me all the time. And
we talked touched on it a little bit

449
00:31:57.119 --> 00:32:01.720
earlier. But when everyone's talking to
throw around the old spiritual awakenings are difficult

450
00:32:01.720 --> 00:32:07.079
and tough, But it's not until
someone talks to someone like you that really

451
00:32:07.200 --> 00:32:14.000
went through the deepest, darkest rud
of the whole spiritual awakening thing. It's

452
00:32:14.359 --> 00:32:19.319
just suddenly now hitting me. That's
a terrifying process. And it truly is

453
00:32:19.440 --> 00:32:24.200
terrifying when you think of you uprooted
your life completely. You just left you.

454
00:32:25.000 --> 00:32:28.599
I don't want use the word alien
because it's not necessarily what you did,

455
00:32:28.599 --> 00:32:31.359
but but you people felt that you
were not yourself anymore, that you

456
00:32:31.400 --> 00:32:37.079
were going off the deep end,
your your marriage dissolved, You're it just

457
00:32:37.359 --> 00:32:40.839
seems terrifying, like I'm putting myself
in your position. I'm thinking if I

458
00:32:42.160 --> 00:32:45.000
could never and you're doing all this
banking on the fact that you're not going

459
00:32:45.039 --> 00:32:50.799
crazy, right, that this is
to do right. So for someone who

460
00:32:50.960 --> 00:32:57.920
might actually be experiencing something similar,
who doesn't know what the heck is going

461
00:32:57.960 --> 00:33:02.480
on? What kind of words of
advice or encouragement can you give someone aid

462
00:33:02.559 --> 00:33:07.480
to identify that this is happening in
be how to handle it because you've you've

463
00:33:07.480 --> 00:33:12.440
got first hand experience with it.
Yeah, well, I think that every

464
00:33:12.480 --> 00:33:16.960
experience is different, right, and
some people's spiritual awakenings are not as dramatic

465
00:33:17.000 --> 00:33:22.799
and not as upsetting as mine was. Or so you mean you're saying there's

466
00:33:22.839 --> 00:33:28.359
hope, then there's definitely saying there's
a chance. I like to think that

467
00:33:28.400 --> 00:33:31.480
my experience is a little bit more
challenging than most, and not because I'm

468
00:33:31.519 --> 00:33:35.359
proud of that, but I certainly
hope it's not like this for everybody.

469
00:33:35.720 --> 00:33:38.920
And when I have conversations with people
who are going through the awakening process,

470
00:33:39.440 --> 00:33:45.519
and I now have the hindsight,
which is always a luxury to be able

471
00:33:45.559 --> 00:33:51.640
to say, here's some books that
you can read, here's some breathing techniques

472
00:33:51.680 --> 00:33:53.759
that you can do. Here's some
different types of yoga or chie gong that

473
00:33:53.839 --> 00:33:59.079
might help you through this process.
I resisted the process for a very long

474
00:33:59.119 --> 00:34:02.559
time, and I also think that
and know my guides had told me that

475
00:34:02.599 --> 00:34:07.599
my brain injury was a redirect for
me. So I not only had that

476
00:34:07.800 --> 00:34:13.719
brain impairment that happened, I also
had my gifts opening up, and so

477
00:34:14.280 --> 00:34:16.599
there was a lot that was happening
in my life. And so I don't

478
00:34:16.599 --> 00:34:22.360
want to scare anybody about the spiritual
awakening process because there are so many people

479
00:34:22.360 --> 00:34:27.360
that are waking up on this planet
right now and are seemingly breezing through it.

480
00:34:28.079 --> 00:34:30.480
And that's not to say that,
you know, some people aren't going

481
00:34:30.519 --> 00:34:32.000
to go through the dark night of
the soul, or they're not going to

482
00:34:32.199 --> 00:34:37.000
recognize that they're not aligned with what
their soul contracts were, why they were

483
00:34:37.039 --> 00:34:39.519
meant to come, and the work
that they were meant to do. That

484
00:34:39.719 --> 00:34:44.119
certainly happens, And those are the
people that I like to say, you're

485
00:34:44.159 --> 00:34:47.119
going to be okay, You're going
to be okay. Just recognize what is

486
00:34:47.199 --> 00:34:51.920
your thoughts and what is coming from
outside of you, and make sure that

487
00:34:52.000 --> 00:34:55.519
your own mental health and your own
mental stability is in check, because I

488
00:34:55.559 --> 00:35:00.519
do think that there are a lot
of people that fall really victor them to

489
00:35:00.800 --> 00:35:06.440
mental illness because of spiritual awakenings.
I think that everybody's experience is different,

490
00:35:06.559 --> 00:35:09.880
right, and I don't want anybody
to be afraid of mental health challenges with

491
00:35:10.280 --> 00:35:15.400
spiritual awakenings as long as they are
aware of where the thoughts are coming from.

492
00:35:15.599 --> 00:35:21.280
And that is part of the spiritual
awakening process, is recognizing what are

493
00:35:21.320 --> 00:35:24.000
your thoughts, what are coming from
your soul, what are coming from your

494
00:35:24.039 --> 00:35:30.079
ego, and who's talking to you? And a lot of times our souls

495
00:35:30.119 --> 00:35:34.800
speak to us through our own intuition, and a lot of people have really

496
00:35:34.880 --> 00:35:40.400
recognized their own souls speaking to them, especially in quarantines, especially when they've

497
00:35:40.440 --> 00:35:45.079
been isolated with COVID. You know, people have really had some significant challenges

498
00:35:45.119 --> 00:35:49.760
saying I think I might be,
you know, losing my mind here because

499
00:35:49.880 --> 00:35:52.559
I'm having all of these thoughts and
I'm having all of these feelings, and

500
00:35:52.639 --> 00:36:00.079
the challenges and the sharpening of your
abilities is recognizing where those are coming from.

501
00:36:00.320 --> 00:36:05.039
And if you can separate, Okay, that's a thought that I'm having,

502
00:36:05.760 --> 00:36:09.519
and that is my brain telling me
this, and you can observe that,

503
00:36:10.480 --> 00:36:16.599
then you're able to recognize whether you're
having mental health challenges or not.

504
00:36:16.840 --> 00:36:20.800
You said earlier that it's kind of
like you kind of hear it through your

505
00:36:20.840 --> 00:36:23.920
ears and in your mind. So
I think that would be helpful. As

506
00:36:23.920 --> 00:36:28.559
opposed, it just is just a
gut feeling because if you're actually hearing something,

507
00:36:28.719 --> 00:36:30.000
then you're like, okay, I
mean that's how I would feel.

508
00:36:30.039 --> 00:36:31.960
I don't know, you know.
And now for me, it's much easier

509
00:36:31.960 --> 00:36:37.760
because I'm channeling and I'm channeling different
souls and I can say okay, I

510
00:36:37.800 --> 00:36:40.840
can feel that energy and I can
discern the energies that are speaking to me.

511
00:36:40.960 --> 00:36:45.880
Now, when I first started hearing
those voices, that was not the

512
00:36:45.960 --> 00:36:51.000
case. I had to really rely
on them and the information that they were

513
00:36:51.039 --> 00:36:54.800
sharing with me to help guide me
on whether these were my thoughts or it

514
00:36:54.840 --> 00:36:59.400
was coming from outside of me.
And there's some interesting things that happen,

515
00:36:59.440 --> 00:37:04.000
at least for me, in sometimes
those energies merge and so I'm having a

516
00:37:04.039 --> 00:37:07.519
thought at the same time. And
there are times where I say was that

517
00:37:07.599 --> 00:37:08.960
me or is that you? And
they'll say, yes, it was.

518
00:37:09.079 --> 00:37:12.840
It was all of us at the
same time. Because it's energy, so

519
00:37:12.880 --> 00:37:15.559
we can also do the same thing
at the same time. There's a lot

520
00:37:15.559 --> 00:37:19.159
of trust involved in them. There's
a tremendous amount of trust that's involved.

521
00:37:19.239 --> 00:37:23.880
And I was comfortable channeling with individuals
and with groups. Will was part of

522
00:37:23.920 --> 00:37:27.480
one of the first groups that I
channeled with, because that's what they were

523
00:37:27.519 --> 00:37:30.639
telling me. It's time to start
doing this a little bit more publicly and

524
00:37:30.679 --> 00:37:35.159
to step outside of Bali because Bali
is a very spiritual place. There are

525
00:37:35.159 --> 00:37:37.599
a lot of healers there, and
I felt very comfortable channeling with people in

526
00:37:37.639 --> 00:37:40.760
Bali, but I did not feel
comfortable channeling with people in the US,

527
00:37:42.199 --> 00:37:45.039
and so my guides were always kind
of pushing me, saying, Okay,

528
00:37:45.119 --> 00:37:47.159
now it's time to channel with some
friends, people who know you, people

529
00:37:47.159 --> 00:37:51.679
who love you, who support you, channel with them. So, you

530
00:37:51.719 --> 00:37:54.639
know, I started doing that,
and I could, as much as I

531
00:37:54.639 --> 00:37:58.719
could just be honest with people and
say, hey, I have no idea

532
00:37:58.880 --> 00:38:02.360
who these spirits are. They tell
me that they're my sole family. How

533
00:38:02.360 --> 00:38:07.599
can I validate that. There's no
way of possibly validating that besides my own

534
00:38:07.719 --> 00:38:10.679
knowings, right, and my own
knowings that they are benevolent and they're here

535
00:38:10.760 --> 00:38:15.639
to do to do good work.
And so as that started to progress and

536
00:38:15.679 --> 00:38:20.320
they started to become more forthcoming about
who they were, and I started to

537
00:38:20.360 --> 00:38:22.960
trust them more. I said,
Okay, you're telling me I'm meant to

538
00:38:22.960 --> 00:38:27.000
be doing healing work. I will
do that with people if I can trust.

539
00:38:27.159 --> 00:38:30.039
And here's the conditions. And so
we've had to work out agreements for

540
00:38:30.119 --> 00:38:36.000
me to even be in this space
with you and to be sitting in front

541
00:38:36.000 --> 00:38:39.920
of someone and having a healing session. And they're they're here for us all

542
00:38:40.119 --> 00:38:44.280
to be healers, and I say
all of us, and that's you and

543
00:38:44.320 --> 00:38:47.719
that's me and everyone. And what
they constantly talk about is we are our

544
00:38:47.800 --> 00:38:52.519
own best healers. And when we
wake up to and we start to recognize

545
00:38:52.559 --> 00:38:57.760
and we start to remember our own
healing abilities, then we can all do

546
00:38:57.920 --> 00:39:01.039
this type of work. And I
don't know that that means channeling and mediumship.

547
00:39:01.599 --> 00:39:04.920
I do know what it means.
We can all be aligned with our

548
00:39:04.960 --> 00:39:07.239
own chakra system. We can all
understand our own energy bodies, we can

549
00:39:07.280 --> 00:39:13.360
all understand we're multidimensional beings living human
experiences. Those are things that we can

550
00:39:13.480 --> 00:39:16.159
all We all have in common as
humans. We all came to this planet

551
00:39:16.159 --> 00:39:20.679
with those abilities. Now, this
sole family that you have, at first

552
00:39:20.840 --> 00:39:25.599
a question, does everyone have one
of those and sole family members? Yes?

553
00:39:27.000 --> 00:39:30.119
And these sole family, these twenty
four souls beings that come to you

554
00:39:30.199 --> 00:39:34.360
that are around you all the time? Are they? I mean, what

555
00:39:34.440 --> 00:39:39.039
are they like? The energy and
their souls and what's interesting about mine?

556
00:39:39.039 --> 00:39:42.960
And I don't want to go too
far into who they are the twenty four

557
00:39:43.000 --> 00:39:45.480
because I don't know who they all
are. What I can tell you is

558
00:39:45.519 --> 00:39:49.840
that they are some of them are
incarnate on the planet this time. And

559
00:39:49.880 --> 00:39:54.199
we're multidimensional beings, so we can
be more than one place at time as

560
00:39:54.320 --> 00:39:59.480
energy beings. And so Adriana,
who's my main guide, she's not in

561
00:39:59.519 --> 00:40:02.360
the physical right now. My other
main guide now is my own higher self.

562
00:40:02.400 --> 00:40:08.480
My higher self stepped in in that
role and their energies right and so

563
00:40:08.840 --> 00:40:15.719
these other twenty four come in sometimes
for collective messages. So those messages are

564
00:40:15.840 --> 00:40:22.719
always more universal wisdom, universal truths. They are about more of messages that

565
00:40:22.840 --> 00:40:28.079
can resonate with any soul, talking
about oneness, talking about unity, talking

566
00:40:28.079 --> 00:40:30.960
about healing mother, or talking about
why we're here at this particular time,

567
00:40:31.039 --> 00:40:35.800
the turbulent energies on the planet,
those things come through when the twenty four,

568
00:40:35.920 --> 00:40:38.280
the collective is channeling through me.
We're speaking with me, and then

569
00:40:38.440 --> 00:40:44.880
Adriana, my main healing guide,
works specifically on the individual healings or the

570
00:40:44.880 --> 00:40:49.320
group healings. We all have soul
family members, and we all have what

571
00:40:49.360 --> 00:40:53.320
they tell me is over a thousand
sole family members. And when we run

572
00:40:53.360 --> 00:40:57.559
into people and we say, gosh, I feel like I know you and

573
00:40:57.599 --> 00:41:00.239
we've never met them before, a
lot of times that's a sole family member

574
00:41:00.320 --> 00:41:05.039
or that's a sole contract that we
have that we're meant to run into that

575
00:41:05.079 --> 00:41:08.599
person in this particular lifetime for a
certain reason. And so we travel in

576
00:41:08.760 --> 00:41:14.440
soul groups and a lot of the
times those soul groups are made up of

577
00:41:14.440 --> 00:41:19.400
our sole family members. And so
this particular collective of twenty four many of

578
00:41:19.440 --> 00:41:22.800
them I don't know. And they
told me that you haven't met some of

579
00:41:22.840 --> 00:41:27.800
these people before, and so it's
really interesting to me. And I have

580
00:41:27.960 --> 00:41:31.360
met a few of them, and
we have had really elaborate ceremonies with them,

581
00:41:31.360 --> 00:41:35.599
and we have revealed that they're part
of the collective, and each one

582
00:41:35.639 --> 00:41:38.079
of them have said, Yeah,
this feels right to me, like they

583
00:41:38.280 --> 00:41:43.159
just knew at a soul level that
that was that that was part of the

584
00:41:43.239 --> 00:41:47.840
journey. That's the part that I
think, how audacious is my soul that

585
00:41:49.159 --> 00:41:52.400
they're planning something like this and why
won't you tell me what it is?

586
00:41:52.480 --> 00:41:55.400
You know, because I'm constantly saying, like, what's next, what's next?

587
00:41:55.480 --> 00:41:59.280
You have this roadmap, tell me
what's next? And they say,

588
00:41:59.480 --> 00:42:01.960
we can't do that because you just
jump to the next thing. You jump

589
00:42:02.039 --> 00:42:05.039
to the next, the next,
the next, and you miss all the

590
00:42:05.039 --> 00:42:07.920
good stuff in between. And so
now the good stuff is working on these

591
00:42:07.920 --> 00:42:14.079
healing sessions with people and being able
to help transmute energy that people have,

592
00:42:14.400 --> 00:42:17.840
energy blockages that they haven't been able
to get to in certain ways, you

593
00:42:17.880 --> 00:42:23.559
know, through conventional methods, and
talking with spirit is a really powerful way

594
00:42:23.639 --> 00:42:30.199
to have pretty dramatic breakthroughs on especially
emotional issues and regrets and things that are

595
00:42:30.599 --> 00:42:34.960
really struggling with. And we talked
about the healing session that we had,

596
00:42:35.000 --> 00:42:38.039
but in the same session we also
you also channeled some entities for me,

597
00:42:38.119 --> 00:42:43.440
one of which was my higher self, which was unnerving as heck. But

598
00:42:43.480 --> 00:42:46.960
then there was also a family member
that has passed that you channeled through and

599
00:42:47.000 --> 00:42:50.559
there's some really interesting conversations. I
don't want to get too much into it

600
00:42:50.559 --> 00:42:52.400
because there's a lot of a lot
of stuff, but if people want to

601
00:42:52.440 --> 00:42:55.719
reach out to you to talk to
you not just for healings, but also

602
00:42:55.840 --> 00:43:01.119
you do this cool thing where it's
not just your family coming through and answering

603
00:43:01.239 --> 00:43:07.280
questions for people, but you also, if they're available, do make room

604
00:43:07.360 --> 00:43:12.719
for other souls to come through you
and speak and have actual conversations with you.

605
00:43:12.920 --> 00:43:15.000
And that, to me is one
of the most fascinating things about the

606
00:43:15.039 --> 00:43:21.400
session that we had together. What's
interesting about the sessions is without the individual's

607
00:43:21.440 --> 00:43:23.920
higher self, their own soul on
board, we wouldn't even have a session.

608
00:43:24.280 --> 00:43:29.239
Somebody wouldn't even reach out if they
didn't get the little tinge from their

609
00:43:29.239 --> 00:43:30.880
soul, like, hey, this
is something that we can trust and we

610
00:43:30.920 --> 00:43:36.400
can believe. And when we have
a session with someone, you know what

611
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your truth is and so it resonates
with you whether you feel like, yes,

612
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I'm actually talking to my higher self
or I'm talking to my guides,

613
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and all of those come through in
sessions with folks. So that's one of

614
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the really beautiful things about these particular
gifts is being able to lend my voice

615
00:43:52.920 --> 00:43:58.960
to spirit who can speak the truth. And a lot of times what happens

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is when we first start talking with
an individual, they just immediately start to

617
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tear up and they get this feeling
of like overwhelm, and they sense that

618
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spirit is with them and they just
sense that it is their own soul,

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and that is something that only you
can know. Right. I can't tell

620
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you yes, this is your soul. What I can say is Adriana,

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who kind of is well, she's
a orchestrator of all the healings. She'll

622
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say, yes, we do have
your higher self here, or yes we

623
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do have your guides, or yes
we do have your you know, your

624
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aunts or your father or your brother
or whoever it is. Or we have

625
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energies. You know, We've had
energies from owls and from amphibians and hawks,

626
00:44:44.800 --> 00:44:49.679
and you know, different energies that
have come through to give individuals specific

627
00:44:49.719 --> 00:44:53.599
messages. And it's always what the
individual is meant to hear at the time,

628
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and so my brain just observes,
I don't control any of it,

629
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and I think, how could that
make any sense to this person? And

630
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invariably I'll get a message afterwards and
they say I can't believe that so and

631
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so said this, or my higher
self was absolutely spot are, And that

632
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will happen a lot of times.
I'll be in a session, I'll be

633
00:45:15.320 --> 00:45:20.840
higher channeling somewhat's higher self and they'll
say, well, you know, it's

634
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like they're talking. They think they're
talking to me or they're talking to Adriana,

635
00:45:23.679 --> 00:45:28.559
and the soul will say, I
know, this is your soul,

636
00:45:29.079 --> 00:45:31.440
you know, just to remind them, like, no, you're actually having

637
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a conversation with your own soul right
now, and it's it's just a beautiful

638
00:45:37.239 --> 00:45:42.400
gift. Can you control that?
Like does the channeling and stuff only happen

639
00:45:42.480 --> 00:45:44.760
during sessions or can you just be
sitting with your friends and all of a

640
00:45:44.760 --> 00:45:46.679
sudden something pops into your head that
you have to tell them. So I

641
00:45:47.119 --> 00:45:53.320
have psychic abilities. I have extra
sensory abilities of clairbuoyance and clear cognizance and

642
00:45:53.320 --> 00:45:59.039
clare sentience, and the newest one
was Claire Aliens is opening up and so

643
00:45:59.119 --> 00:46:02.559
that's that's an interesting I was watching
something on television the other day and there

644
00:46:02.639 --> 00:46:06.400
was a battle scene that broke out
on the History Channel, and all of

645
00:46:06.400 --> 00:46:08.400
a sudden, I got this big
waft of body odor and I went,

646
00:46:08.519 --> 00:46:12.800
oh God, that's terrible. Oh
my God's And I said, what is

647
00:46:12.880 --> 00:46:15.920
that? Did I really sense that? And my guide said, yeah,

648
00:46:15.960 --> 00:46:20.079
that's Clare aliens. That's just another
vibration that you're picking up on. It's

649
00:46:20.159 --> 00:46:22.599
like, oh, I don't want
that one. I don't want that one.

650
00:46:22.639 --> 00:46:25.760
But what I've what I've learned to
do is really control my own energy,

651
00:46:25.800 --> 00:46:30.360
and so I don't read people when
i'm with them, and if we're

652
00:46:30.360 --> 00:46:35.000
not in a session, and I
don't access anyone's energy unless we're in a

653
00:46:35.079 --> 00:46:38.920
session, and I prefer to let
Adriana take the lead and really step in

654
00:46:39.039 --> 00:46:45.559
and guide the entire process of the
healings because she's the master healer, you

655
00:46:45.559 --> 00:46:47.679
know. In many ways, I'm
very much a vessel for this work,

656
00:46:47.719 --> 00:46:53.079
and so it is much better for
everyone involved if I don't control any of

657
00:46:53.159 --> 00:46:57.639
it, and they locked down my
energy in some ways, so I'm not

658
00:46:57.840 --> 00:47:01.840
being bombarded and leading up to this, before I started working so closely with

659
00:47:01.880 --> 00:47:06.360
them, I would walk into a
room and I would sense everything in the

660
00:47:06.440 --> 00:47:08.960
room, where I would hear things
or I would know things, and that

661
00:47:09.079 --> 00:47:13.760
was unnerving, right, And so
now it's kind of like, well,

662
00:47:13.760 --> 00:47:17.400
at least I've got some gatekeepers,
you know, I help with this and

663
00:47:19.039 --> 00:47:22.400
to know that when we're working with
someone, they're only going to allow in

664
00:47:22.519 --> 00:47:27.320
the highest forms of love and light. They're never going to allow someone through

665
00:47:27.599 --> 00:47:31.920
from the other side who is not
a benevolence and isn't here to assist the

666
00:47:31.920 --> 00:47:35.880
person that we're working with at the
time. I'll tell you the biggest thing

667
00:47:35.880 --> 00:47:39.239
that comes through a lot of times
is when spirit comes through. People say

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00:47:39.320 --> 00:47:44.800
I want to talk to a parent
is a big one. And when they

669
00:47:44.840 --> 00:47:47.519
come through, I can feel when
they come through, and I sense all

670
00:47:47.559 --> 00:47:52.079
of that, and I just wait
for them to take over my voice.

671
00:47:52.159 --> 00:47:54.400
I don't force it. I just
wait for the energy to take over my

672
00:47:54.519 --> 00:47:59.119
voice. And I can't tell you
how many times the first words have been

673
00:47:59.280 --> 00:48:08.519
I'm sorry. And it is so
heart warming to know that when we leave

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00:48:08.559 --> 00:48:15.480
these bodies, our souls have a
recognition of what they could have done better

675
00:48:15.519 --> 00:48:20.000
while they were here, and that, to me, is part of this

676
00:48:20.119 --> 00:48:22.960
process, is to say, if
there are any things that you need to

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00:48:23.000 --> 00:48:28.000
clear up now in this lifetime,
do it. Because I hear that over

678
00:48:28.079 --> 00:48:30.840
and over and over again from souls
that come in and say, please tell

679
00:48:30.880 --> 00:48:35.639
Mom, I'm sorry, Please tell
you so and so, I'm sorry,

680
00:48:35.840 --> 00:48:38.480
or I'm sorry I hurt you,
I'm sorry I didn't tell you I loved

681
00:48:38.480 --> 00:48:43.079
you, enough. I'm sorry I
didn't make you feel important enough. I'm

682
00:48:43.199 --> 00:48:47.159
sorry that I didn't listen to you
enough. When those things come through from

683
00:48:47.280 --> 00:48:53.320
spirit, it restores my faith that
we are eternal beings, that this isn't

684
00:48:53.320 --> 00:48:58.880
a one and done lifetime. Our
souls evolve and continue to evolve and continue

685
00:48:58.920 --> 00:49:04.280
to expand, and that when we
leave these physical bodies, we want to

686
00:49:04.280 --> 00:49:07.920
connect with people that we left behind
as much as they want to connect with

687
00:49:08.039 --> 00:49:14.960
us. And the healing comes that
comes through with those interactions is just really

688
00:49:14.960 --> 00:49:19.119
beautiful. I'm so honored to be
able to help be a vessel for that.

689
00:49:19.360 --> 00:49:23.800
I can't say with one hundred certainty
that I understand what it is that

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00:49:23.840 --> 00:49:29.320
you do or how you do it, or if it's even something that's just

691
00:49:29.519 --> 00:49:32.960
it's that's just a psychological thing that's
happening. All I can say is that

692
00:49:34.199 --> 00:49:38.880
after our session, I was shaken. I was shaken, and that doesn't

693
00:49:38.920 --> 00:49:46.480
happen to me often. So I
invite anyone hearing my voice if you want

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00:49:46.599 --> 00:49:52.559
to experience this type of thing for
yourself, I would absolutely invite you to

695
00:49:52.599 --> 00:49:58.039
reach out to Jennifer because I can
All I can say is and I've been

696
00:49:58.039 --> 00:50:00.679
looking into the stuff for a long
time. I was shaken. And that's

697
00:50:00.719 --> 00:50:05.159
why the biggest compliment I can give
you, Jennifer, because I am not

698
00:50:05.280 --> 00:50:10.519
one to take these experiences and go
something's here. In fact, most of

699
00:50:10.559 --> 00:50:15.719
the time I go I'm not sure. This time I was shaken. So

700
00:50:15.880 --> 00:50:20.320
thank you first of all for doing
the session with me. Second of all

701
00:50:20.400 --> 00:50:23.400
for starting and enduring this path,
because I do think that you are here

702
00:50:24.159 --> 00:50:28.000
for a big reason. I think
there's a reason you're here, and I

703
00:50:28.039 --> 00:50:30.079
think you're going to be doing a
lot of good for the world. So

704
00:50:30.159 --> 00:50:35.320
thank you for enduring what you have
to endure because it was super difficult.

705
00:50:35.519 --> 00:50:38.039
And most of all, thank you
for coming and sharing a story with us,

706
00:50:38.079 --> 00:50:42.239
because we're honored to be one of
the first to talk to you about

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00:50:42.239 --> 00:50:47.119
this stuff. Thanks. I think
it is like a hundred times. It's

708
00:50:47.119 --> 00:50:50.679
one of these things where I felt
like a like a you know the story,

709
00:50:50.719 --> 00:50:53.000
I'd like tell me more, tell
me more, like listening to a

710
00:50:53.079 --> 00:50:57.639
story. That's not if people who
listened to the show. No, that's

711
00:50:57.960 --> 00:51:00.480
that's not me. I'm constantly asking
questions and getting involved. No, this

712
00:51:00.559 --> 00:51:06.039
time, I just let you speak
because I'm fascinated by your story, Jennifer,

713
00:51:06.159 --> 00:51:07.639
well, thank you so much,
and thank you for the opportunity to

714
00:51:07.760 --> 00:51:10.760
allow me to share a bit of
it. And you know, nobody was

715
00:51:10.760 --> 00:51:15.239
as surprised as me that this what's
going to happen. And so I am

716
00:51:15.599 --> 00:51:22.079
walking slowly on this path and really
enjoying where I'm at right now. And

717
00:51:22.119 --> 00:51:25.519
that's the key, right That's why
we're here, is to enjoy life and

718
00:51:25.599 --> 00:51:30.880
to understand that we're all we're all
just living a fraction of our abilities,

719
00:51:30.960 --> 00:51:35.599
and when we open up to them
and we start to really understand what we're

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capable of, magic can happen all
around us. Well, thank you again,

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Jennifer so much for being on the
show. It was an absolute honor.

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00:51:42.760 --> 00:51:45.400
And Karen, thank you for coming
along on this crazy journey with me.

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Again, thank you listener for coming
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