From Stress to Stillness: How Crystal Bowl Sound Healing Rewires Your Nervous System
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What if the key to silencing your overactive mind exists at a specific frequency? In this episode of The Skeptic Metaphysicians, hosts Will and Karen dive deep with Ryan Stanley, owner of Sacred Sound of the Soul, to uncover how sound healing moves beyond relaxation fluff into genuine neurobiological transformation.

Ryan, a former corporate executive who pivoted to exploring consciousness expansion through sound, reveals the science-backed mechanisms behind why crystal bowls induce immediate calm, from vagus nerve stimulation to frequency-based entrainment. But here's what makes this conversation different: he refuses to oversell the "woo," instead grounding energy healing in practical, observable results that listeners can replicate at home.

In this episode, you'll discover why stress has become our baseline operating system and how 15 minutes with a crystal bowl can reset your nervous system. You'll learn the neurobiological mechanics of how sound vibrations impact your vagus nerve and central nervous system. Ryan shares how to choose your "bowl mate"; the one that matches YOUR unique energy signature, and demystifies the myth about crystal bowls and chakras. The hosts experience a live sound healing demo and Will even leaves his body, proving online sound healing genuinely works. You'll hear Ryan's personal spiritual awakening story with the "super grade" crystal bowl that triggered samadhi at 3 AM, and discover practical daily-use strategies whether you have 3 minutes or 60+ minutes to dedicate to vibrational medicine.

This is modern spirituality for skeptics, practical tools for spiritual growth, and everything you need to understand why your body responds to vibration even when your mind says BS.

Coupon: Listeners of Skeptic Metaphysicians can use the code SKEPTIC to receive $100 off their first alchemy crystal singing bowl from Sacred Sound of the Soul

Key Topics & Keywords
Sound Healing & Vibrational Medicine: Frequency-based healing, crystal bowls, Tibetan bowls, sonic frequency therapy, vagus nerve stimulation

Consciousness & Spiritual Development: Spiritual awakening, consciousness, consciousness expansion, spiritual growth, frequency entrainment, somatic experiencing

Energy & Metaphysics: Energy healing, energy signature matching, subtle body work, frequency alignment, vibration entrainment, modern spirituality

Intuition & Soul Connection: Intuition development, soul-level resonance, intuitive bowl selection, soul purpose, inner knowing, somatic listening

Personal Transformation: Stress relief, anxiety management, nervous system regulation, emotional reset, rest & digest response, awakening

Spiritual Guidance: Spiritual teacher perspective, consciousness hacking, accessible spiritual practice, practical metaphysics

Timestamps & Deep Dive
[00:00] – Intro: "Stress as our baseline operating system" & the one tool that shuts your brain up faster than a dead iPhone battery

[00:04] – The neurobiology of sound: How your eardrum, neural pathways, and brain interpret vibration into healing

[00:06] – Three theories of how sound healing works: energy entrainment, somatic holding space, and the science we don't fully understand yet

[00:08] – Real talk about tinnitus, frequency sensitivity, and whether sound healing can trigger trauma (and why that might be progress)

[00:10] – Why your nervous system responds to bass differently than Karen's (psychological vs. physical frequency reception)

[00:12] – The yoga studio revelation: How thousands of fidgeting students instantly got still the moment a bowl was played

[00:14] – Skin benefits, deep rest, and how sound healing indirectly supports skin health through restorative biology

[00:15] – From five-dimensional consciousness to actual morning playlists: How your "vibe match" determines your entire day

[00:17] – Crystal bowl mechanics: Why width, height, and wall thickness create different frequencies

[00:19] – Can you change a crystal bowl's frequency with water? (Wine glass effect explained)

[00:20] – The frequency spectrometer myth-buster: Every bowl contains infinite frequencies—your intention determines which one you "hear"

[00:22] – Ryan's personal awakening: The 16-inch super-grade crystal bowl that triggered samadhi and a 3 AM kundalini pull[

00:24] – Why the magic isn't just in expensive bowls—accessibility matters

[00:25] – How to play crystal bowls (2-3 minute learning curve)

[00:26] – Session duration breakdown: 3-5 minutes for clarity, 1+ hours for deep meditation, 15 minutes for optimal balance

[00:28] – One bowl or an orchestra? The receptivity-and-strength dance of extended single-bowl sessions

[00:30] – Harmonic bowl families: Why assembling sets means you "never hit the wrong note"

[00:32] – Live sound healing experience—15 minutes of pure crystal bowl frequency (best with headphones)

[00:47] – After the sound bath: Reports of tingling, sinus opening, top-of-head burning, and profound nervous system release

[00:48] – Does online sound healing really work? The science of how vibration travels through digital mediums and directly impacts your body

[00:52] – Crystal vs. Tibetan bowl differences and why one requires effort while the other flows

[00:53] – The "Bowl Mate" concept: Finding your soulmate bowl through visual intuition and energy signature matching

[00:54] – How to buy a crystal bowl: In-person consultations or online sound recordings for remote buyers

[00:56] – Contact info and Ryan's approach to helping people find their perfect bowl

Guest Bio
Ryan Stanley is the founder and owner of Sacred Sound of the Soul, a crystal bowl healing studio in Encinitas, California. A former corporate executive who transitioned from "crunching numbers" to facilitating consciousness expansion through sound healing, Ryan has spent years mastering the subtle art of crystal bowl selection and vibrational medicine. He's witnessed thousands of people experience immediate nervous system shifts, emotional breakthroughs, and spiritual awakening through his work, and he approaches it all with refreshing skepticism and genuine humility about what he does and doesn't understand.Resources & Links

  • Sacred Sound of the Soul: www.sacredsoundofthesoul.com
  • Email: info@sacredsoundofthesoul.com
  • Location: Encinitas, California (consultations available online and in-person by appointment)
  • Bowl Selection: Browse 500+ unique crystal bowls with audio recordings available online
Listener Takeaway
You don't need to understand why sound healing works to benefit from it. What matters is that your body responds. This episode strips away spiritual jargon and gives you practical tools to use crystal bowls for immediate stress relief, deeper meditation, and the kind of spiritual growth that happens when your nervous system finally stops fighting to survive. Whether you're seeking tools for anxiety relief, meditation enhancement, or genuine spiritual awakening, sound healing deserves a place in your consciousness toolkit.

Perfect for: Skeptics curious about alternative healing, meditation practitioners, anxiety sufferers, yoga instructors, conscious creators, energy workers, and anyone exploring modern spirituality without sacrificing critical thinking.

The Skeptic Metaphysicians: Where we question everything, ditch the fluff, and dive straight into tools that actually shift your consciousness.

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Karen, Yes, is it just me?

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Yes?

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I know you can say that I knew it now?

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Is it just me?

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Or do you feel like stress has become our baseline

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operating system? Oh?

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My god?

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Absolutely well.

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We are about to learn the one tool that could

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shut our brain up faster than our phone hitting one

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percent battery.

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And is it a tool I can use at night,

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every night before I go to bed.

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That's a question we will ask our guest because he

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is a former corporate executive, a former CPA, a man

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who went from crunching numbers to crunching open human consciousness.

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Oh m h. In fact, that sound you're hearing, it's

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not relaxation fluff. It's frequency based neurobiology. And if you

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think that sounds dramatic, good because it should, because in

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this episode you're going to learn why certain sounds instantly

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lower anxiety, how crystal bowls can reset your emotional circuitry,

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how to choose a bowl that matches your actual energy signature,

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and why your body responds to vibration even when your

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mind says BS.

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So I can't just choose one because it's pretty h.

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I mean you could, but it may not work involve

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for you I'm not saying sound healing works miracles, but

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apparently one bowl can calm anxiety, reset your energy, and

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maybe even helping you stop doom scrolling. At two am,

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I'm Karen.

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I feel like you've been you, you, you, this whole thing.

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I'm feeling a little attacks.

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And yes, she's performing a live sound healing on the

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show today. So if your nervous system has been behaving

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like a caffeinated squirrel, consider this your intervention. So if

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your brain feels like forty seven open browser tabs fighting

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for dominance, and welcome to the skeptic metaphysicians, where today

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your chakras might tune themselves out of sheer relief.

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My name is Will and I'm Karen.

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Unlike moulderin Scully, both want to believe. So we've embarked

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in a journey of discovery.

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We've talked to people deeply entrenched in the spiritual and

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mephysical world.

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We've thrown ourselves into weird and wonderful experiences. I even

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joined a coven.

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Of witches and wait, you joined a coven?

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Yep, all the interests of finding something, anything, that will

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prove that there's something beyond this physical.

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Three dimensional world we all live in.

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This is the Skeptic Metapositions. Hey there, I'm will and

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I'm caring. Welcome back to the Skeptic and Physicians, the

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show where we ditch the fluff, we question everything, and

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we dive straight into the tools that actually shift your consciousness,

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not just your Pinterest board. Today's guest is someone who

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didn't just stumble into sound healing. He surrendered to it.

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See what I did.

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There, I see what you did.

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Then I followed a pull that most of us ignore,

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that quiet instinct that says there's something more than this.

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And what he found wasn't just a practice. It was

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a frequency that changes people, not metaphorically, physically, emotionally immediately, wow,

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immediately immediately. He helps people reconnect to the part of

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themselves that's been found out by the noise, and today

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he is bringing those vibrations to us. Please welcome the

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owner of Sacred Sound of the Soul, Ryan Stanley. Ryan,

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how are you doing today?

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I'm doing so good. Thank you for asking. How about you?

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Boss?

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Well, we're a little bit under the weather, so we're

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hoping that your your sound healing is going to just

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miraculously clear everything up for.

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Us, you know, and I need you're some sitting here

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listening to him and realizing I'm just clenching my teeth

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and that's like my permanent state these days. There's just

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clenched teeth and it gives me a headache.

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Yeah, well, then that's that's a perfect segue into the

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conversation Ryan, sound healing. How is it that it works

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so beautifully, so perfectly for so many people, and so

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instantly and so instantly.

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now that we could go into. I mean, even just

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the miracle of the inner ear and the way the

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ear drum works, where it's you know, moving back and

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for with air compression, and then and then the little

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tiny bones that convert that into electrical signals through the

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nerves and neural pathways, and the way the brain interprets that.

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an absolute miracle. But there's I was listening to a

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couple of your other guests that I've talked about sound.

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guests from the past, and you know, he talked about

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this this thought around that everything is energy, and the

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sound moving through is energy, and you're just connecting energy

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with energy, and there's like an entrainment of all that

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energy happening, right. You know. There's there's so many things

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that we could talk about from the perspective of the

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subtle body and the energy that may be part of

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our sort of metaphysical fields, and the way that that interacts.

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sound impacts your skin, the way that the vagus nerve

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comes to the surface on the outer ear, which is

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absolutely fascinating to me. Only place at the vagus nerve,

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which you probably have heard about vagal toning and the

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stress reduction that can come from that alone. The only

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place of that nerve comes to the outer surface of

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the body is the outer ear, not the inner ear,

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but the outer ear and part of the ear canal.

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such a receptive nerve comes to the surface. Wow. Yeah,

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I could go on and on. Is there any of

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that that's more curious to you that you'd quite like

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to explore?

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Yes, yeah, all of it. But so the way effort

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it sound spoken or explained is sound. It makes perfect

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sense to me. Sound is just a vibration. My different

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bowls have different vibrational frequencies that interact with different vibrational

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frequencies within ourselves, and that's how sound healings kind of

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come to pass. Is that fair?

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It's fair. It's one possibility. Another possibility is it's just

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noise that holds space that allows you to be still,

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and that stillness allows you to have a somatic experience

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listening to the inner your inner body, witnessing the miracle

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nature of your inner body. And because the sound held

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the space for that, then you get to have another experience.

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You know, there's many different theories on how it works,

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and I guess the I am. I really love the

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fact that when when I saw the name of your

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podcast by Skeptic Metaphysicians, I thought this is the perfect

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place for me because I think that it means so

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much to me to be a skeptic, to know that

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truth may be something that you don't completely understand and

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have that humble nature about seeking truth. That's where I'm

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at with sound healing is that I'm I'm really curious

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to explore all the possibilities, but I don't know for

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sure what's actually creating the success within sound healing. All

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I know is that I'm witnessing it happening over and

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over again.

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I have a question that I don't know if you'll

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be able to answer or not, of course going to

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be well, I mean, it's just kind of it's not

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out of the blue, but it's kind of out. So

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everyone that I know has some level of tonitis. Is

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that something that like it, I don't know, will interact

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with the vibrations that you're producing with these sound bowls

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and negate them or can it fix that? Do you

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have any idea with that.

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I've only run into it a couple of times, and

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so it's not like a massive research study that I

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can tell you that you know exactly how it works.

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But in my personal experience, gentle sound healing has not

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aggravated the tonitis for people, and it's even sometimes helped

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a little bit. But it's got to be gentle and subtle.

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And there are different types of sound bass you can

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go to, and sometimes they can be really vigorous and awakening,

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and sometimes people will be playing instruments really loud to

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try to reach you, to try to to wake you

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up to try to make sure that you're getting your

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receiving the sound healing. But for tonight's the couple cases

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that I've run into, the subtlety is really important to know.

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I've even heard it like it's gone so far. So

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sometimes some people the frequencies may not align perfectly so

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that it's made someone nauseous or something along those lines.

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Have you experienced that, Yeah, Yeah, especially traumatic experiences can

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come back up. It depends what instruments and how forceful

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it's being played and the frequency, like you said, sometimes,

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like in my personal experience, like for instance, a gong

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is a very aggressive instrument. It can be really fun

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to be around, really awakening. But for other people it

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can bring up a little trauma and some things, and

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that maybe that's a good thing. Maybe that's not necessarily

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a bad thing. Having an uncomfortable experience during a sound

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healing might be progress.

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Yeah, it's interesting how much sound can affect you, because

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I don't know if you remember when we were first dating,

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you had that little two seater hot road convertible car

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and he would like blast the music and the bass

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like you could feel it in the seat.

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Like it was yesterday.

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It would make you No, that's true. I have to stop.

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I'm going to throw up. That was weird and will

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did it make you feel good?

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It did? I loved it. In fact, the more base

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that better is for me. So why is he so

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different for her? And I?

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I wish I had the answer to that. That is

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totally out of my scope of practice. But all I

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know is that everybody receives it differently. And and I

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think this is getting back to what you said originally,

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which is there are some frequencies that may align with

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some people more so than others. Some people are more sensitive,

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other people are need more amplitude in order to be

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able to receive it. And so it's not just about

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the frequency. It might be about the volume. It might

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be about the way it's being received. It might be

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about the tone. It might be about the harmony. It

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might be about dissonance versus you know, sort of major

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chords being played together. It might be about the minor

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tones and some of the musical theory. There are so

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many dimensions of this, and sorry I'm being resistant to

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the you know, giving a straight answer, but yeah, there's

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just so many perspectives of.

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No worries we're going to keep asking the question until

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you finally break down the answer.

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You got it, well, some questions, There are many many answers, Oh, no.

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Questions, absolutely, yeah, So how what do you think is

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happening inside of our body? Is that illicit responses like

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when vegas nerve simulation like you mentioned for example, how

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does a sound release that tension?

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It's a good question. I think. One of the interesting

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studies that I've seen is around how white noise by

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itself makes a difference for people in pain management and

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some relief. And we think about white noise and the

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time in the womb potentially and this comfort factor that

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might be coming from kind of reliving that type of experience.

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White noise of like the ocean or the river running

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seems to be calming to us. We know with babies,

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vacuum cleaners, all sorts of white noise seem to be calming.

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So there could be a psychological implication. It could be

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something psychologically that's happening with certain sound, and then we're

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just drawing a correlation from white noise to that psychological

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implication to other types of sound healing like the bowls

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and some sort of psychological implication. But I think even

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the sound healing in the ear and on the skin,

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even makes a difference. It definitely makes a difference for

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me when I can feel the vibration from playing myself,

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because I feel the vibration coming back into my body

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through the wand and I recommend everybody experience that because

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it is different when you have that, you have that

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ability to receive not only the sound coming through your ears,

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but you're receiving on all dimensions. Maybe it's energetic, maybe

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it's physical. Maybe it's three D, maybe it's four D.

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Who knows, but yeah, I think there's many different reasons

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the vagus nerve itself could be stimulated slightly through this

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outer ear, but it also the process of getting still

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may help this whole central nervous system calm down. And

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stillness is what comes to people oftentimes when they first

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hear a frequency like a Tibetan bowl or a crystal bowl.

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And that's been one of the most beautiful experiences about

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owning the yoga studio as well that I own, which

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is being able to see thousands of people come into

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classes and they struggle to be still, they're shifting around constantly,

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and as soon as a bowl is played, that struggle

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seems to go away. And it's one of the reasons

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why I fell in love with sound healing. Was witnessing

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that over and over again. I thought, well, there's so

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many modalities to relaxation and getting out of this stress

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response into restorative biology, but sound healing seems to be

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the one that I've come across. It seems to be

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the easiest, the least invasive, and kind of the fastest modality,

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the least effort that I've seen.

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Well, I want to talk about the stress, but before

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we do the he you mentioned skin, and I started

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to get excited, because I mean, I'm not the springiest

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of chickens, but I still got a little I haven't

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sprung yet. So is this something that when you're talking

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about it affecting your skin, can it help your skin

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or is it just that you feel it on your skin.

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I don't know how excited I should get.

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I haven't. I haven't come across any cases yet where

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people have reported that it's really helped their skin.

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But I wouldn't say.

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I wouldn't say it's not possible because I've seen magic

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in so many other ways, and part of this too

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may just be a manifestation of magic as well. So

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but but I meant more of the feeling through the skin.

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But that's why they call it a sound bath care,

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and you have to get into the bath repeatedly and

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eventually maybe your skin will come out of the bath

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feeling younger. I'm just strong.

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Everything else is working better. Ultimately, it's going to reflect

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on your skin absolutely through the house. I'm going with it.

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It's good for you.

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You go for it, baby.

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I'm not a medical doctor, but in my opinion, yeah.

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It's if it's helping you drop into your restorative biology,

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which you talked about. We started this talking about the

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amount of stress that we all live in, and we're

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in acute stress most of the time. We are, you know,

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not really I shouldn't say acute stress, but it feels

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like that because when your iPhone rings a lot of

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times that you think about the thirty things that you

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haven't done, and you think about and suddenly that stress

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gets into that same zone as even beyond just gentle

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stress into almost acute stress and getting into rest and

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then deep rest is what actually is going to allow

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your skin to heal. So if you're in deep rest

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more often because of a sound healing, there you go.

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Wherever or.

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We're going to get your relax today. Yeah, so Ryan

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talk on the show. We talk a lot about spiritual

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awakenings and shifting into five d's and ascensions and all

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that kinds of woo stuff. And when it comes to

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sound healing, we've heard a lot of people talk about

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how sometimes sounds transcend them into other states of consciousness

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and all that kind of stuff. For me, when I

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wake up in the morning, if I listen to some

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of my favorite songs, favorite music, it really sets the

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day for me, right, And yet if my daughter starts

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playing somewher for music, it's not a good day. Right.

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It goes contrary to all that kind of stuffing, just

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a really loud, rappy stuff that really makes it difficult.

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So obviously this is something I'm gonna do with different

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frequencies that align with us and each one of those

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bulls that if you're only listening to the show, you're

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not seeing Ryan sitting on a mat in front of

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a whole array of different crystal bulls. Yeah, it really

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gorgeous and a whole lot more behind you, in different

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colors and all kinds of things. Is it just a

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shape and the size of the bowl that rearranges the frequency?

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And which one of those if that's the case, is,

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how should someone know which bowl to use if they

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want to awaken spiritually? For example? Okay, few questions, lots

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of questions.

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One was and one was around how does the frequency

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actually emerge from the bowl based on the shape and size?

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And so there's a few rules of thumb. Generally, wider

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bowls are going to be deeper generally in the frequency. Generally,

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taller bowls will also be somewhat deeper in the frequency.

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So the combination of the width and the height will

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sometimes make the frequency change quite a bit. So this

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small bowl which I'm holding here, which you may not

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be able to see, but is about six inches wide,

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and it makes a fifth octave c sharp and.

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Holding a crystal like so you see through bowl that

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it almost looks like a mixing bowl.

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Yeah, that's. In fact, when people come into the store

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and don't know what they are, they they sometimes set how.

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Much how much do you have any bigger mixing bowls

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than this one?

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Because yeah, so and now I'm holding the largest one

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of the set that I've got, which happens to be

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a twelve inch one here, and it's both tall and wide,

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and it has it has the same frequency, but two

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octaves lower as the six inch bowl that I was holding,

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So it's it's quite a bit deeper. From a mathematical perspective,

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it's I believe a third if then it hurts that

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the upper bowl would be. So the width and height

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makes a big difference. But the other thing that makes

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a big difference is the thickness of the bowl, of

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the thickness of the wall of the bowl, And so

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where you have a very thick wall, it will make

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a higher frequency, and where you have a very thin wall,

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it will make a lower frequency. So all those things combined,

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combined to determine the frequency, as well as material it's

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made out of and many other things. But generally, if

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you're you're kind of searching for a deep frequency, the

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bigger the bowl, the deeper the frequency.

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Gotcha. And so these are all crystal balls that we're

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talking about. I happen to have a metal bowl right

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that was made in China. I think it is is

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that the same principle that the crystal balls display like

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the thinness the size of depth that changes the frequency

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as well, or is that a little bit more?

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Generally the same generally the same principle with the metal

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balls as well, that the larger you get, the wider

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and taller you go with the metal bowl, and the

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thinner it is in its in its wall thickness, then

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the lower its tone generally.

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Is okay, And it just happens around on the where

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is there to have pulled it out? And here is

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my it's actually sacral bowls when I'm being told right,

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because it's supposedly it hits the sacral chakra, which is

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great sometimes and sometimes I just don't feel like in

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the mood for that one night.

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So could you I'm thinking of like the wine glasses,

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could you put water in a crystal bowl and change

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the sound with that? Is that like upon?

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Yeah, it definitely changes the tone of the bowl to

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put a little bit of water in there. It changes

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the volume and space and everything else. So some people

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do that to kind of fine tune their crystal bowls

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to a certain tone.

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It's like some of those performances I've seen with a

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guy with like a whole bunch of like wineglasses with

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different sizes, and they just they do hold more. Yes, yeah,

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probably not as apt to do that with a crystal

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bowl as I would be for them.

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But no.

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But if you can't, you know, if you don't have

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access to more than one and you need to hear

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a different tone, maybe you can add, you know, a

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little bit of water to it, change it up.

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Now, that's a good point. And I've been at VESA

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about this question of frequency relating to sort of different

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people or different parts of your body and those type

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of things. One thing I found in sound healing that

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I think is a it's kind of a MythBuster type

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of a bit of wisdom that that can be passed

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on is that we think in terms of one instrument,

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one sound, but typically there's actually an infinite amount of

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different tones coming out of every single instrument. And you

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can see this on a frequency spectrometer. If you actually

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look at a graph of the sound of a bowl,

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you're going to see a shape that peaks in one

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place and then it slowly degrades to the other side.

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It might be like a convex shape on both sides

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of this peak, and underneath the area of the curve

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is sound in infinite different sound in both directions. And

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so one thing that's interesting is that from my experience,

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people hear the bowl where you tell them to listen.

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And so regardless if I tell you this is going

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to reach your sacral chakra, you're going to imagine, You're

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going to envision, Okay, my sacral chakra is here in

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my body. This is about where it is, and then

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you're going to be more sensitive and receptive in that

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area because I've told you that that's a place to listen.

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And so my belief is that each instrument actually has

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the possibility to reach just about any area of your

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body that you want to. And I think if we

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actually did research and testing it would be that's what

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we would find is that wherever people are listening is

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where they So that's a great thing that intentions can

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manifest in that way based on what you're really trying

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to work on. Well, really and a lot of flexibility

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for the application.

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I really respect where you're coming from because you're really

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looking at this from a very pragmatic way, and that's

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right up this show's ali. So thank you for that,

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first of all, but inevitably we have people that are

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very firmly in the WU. So in that sense, let's

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go back to that question about awakenings. Is there a

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particular bowl that you would recommend? Is some wanted to

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just stay in the room all day long and play

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it because they wanted to ascend to the five D

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that they should act.

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Where can you buy it? Asking for a friend?

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You know, I'm just curious myself, but.

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Yeah, I mean, well, my personal experience where I had

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my biggest and I've kind of tracked four or five

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big kind of awakening, awe inspiring moments in my life,

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and one of them came from these bulls. I used

434
00:22:27.519 --> 00:22:32.319
to think that they were really silly, pretty instruments and

435
00:22:32.559 --> 00:22:35.079
that people only liked them because of the way they looked,

436
00:22:35.680 --> 00:22:40.160
and I really was. I really rejected them in many ways.

437
00:22:40.160 --> 00:22:43.119
They were not masculine enough for me. I thought sound

438
00:22:43.200 --> 00:22:47.079
healings about mastery of like classical Indian music or really

439
00:22:47.119 --> 00:22:49.559
going thirty years into something, and they were just too

440
00:22:49.599 --> 00:22:52.799
easy to play and too accessible, and I just completely

441
00:22:52.880 --> 00:22:56.400
rejected them. But I did have an experience where I

442
00:22:56.440 --> 00:22:59.519
played one where I kind of just really fell into

443
00:22:59.559 --> 00:23:02.759
playing it for three or four hours and the next morning,

444
00:23:03.079 --> 00:23:06.400
I woke up with the biggest smadi that I've had

445
00:23:06.400 --> 00:23:10.440
in my life. Wow, And it was something in the

446
00:23:10.480 --> 00:23:13.839
bowls were very present in my psychology. Then throughout the

447
00:23:13.960 --> 00:23:17.119
night and waking up early in the morning, probably three am,

448
00:23:17.480 --> 00:23:19.640
you know, that's all I could think about was wanting

449
00:23:19.680 --> 00:23:22.160
to play and be around the bulls again. And that

450
00:23:22.240 --> 00:23:24.720
came from playing one of the balls. It's called the

451
00:23:24.759 --> 00:23:29.799
super Grade Bowl of It's got the most refined matrix

452
00:23:29.839 --> 00:23:33.720
of crystal available, and it's a sixteen inch They come

453
00:23:33.720 --> 00:23:36.240
in sixteen inch, and they come in all different sizes actually,

454
00:23:36.279 --> 00:23:39.200
but most commonly in sixteen inch and eighteen inch sizes,

455
00:23:39.440 --> 00:23:42.319
and it makes a very deep tone and the visceral

456
00:23:42.440 --> 00:23:45.200
vibration that you feel from it as you're playing it,

457
00:23:45.599 --> 00:23:48.240
you feel it all over your skin, all over your body.

458
00:23:48.400 --> 00:23:52.119
Your hair stands up as you're playing it, because it's

459
00:23:52.279 --> 00:23:55.759
just it reaches anyone, even as numb as I was

460
00:23:56.200 --> 00:24:00.480
at the time. And so if you really want the

461
00:24:00.119 --> 00:24:03.880
the quick hit, that's the instrument that I'd recommend is

462
00:24:03.920 --> 00:24:07.200
get one and play it for yourself. But that's also

463
00:24:08.200 --> 00:24:11.920
not easily accessible. It's a very expensive bowl, and you

464
00:24:11.960 --> 00:24:14.319
also don't need to have that experience. There's so many

465
00:24:14.319 --> 00:24:17.799
other ways that you can you can approach having meaning

466
00:24:17.839 --> 00:24:20.440
in life, and yeah, but it was fun for me.

467
00:24:21.079 --> 00:24:23.920
So if you do manage to get the ball or

468
00:24:23.920 --> 00:24:26.440
even any other ball you said, you know, get the

469
00:24:26.440 --> 00:24:29.880
ball and play it, do you have to like, how

470
00:24:30.039 --> 00:24:32.039
is it easy to just play or do you need

471
00:24:32.160 --> 00:24:33.519
lessons or instruction?

472
00:24:35.160 --> 00:24:37.480
It's one of the most successible things. That's one of

473
00:24:37.519 --> 00:24:40.920
the things that's beautiful about it is having people come

474
00:24:40.960 --> 00:24:43.759
into the gallery or even online or other places where

475
00:24:43.759 --> 00:24:45.759
I get to teach them how to play the balls.

476
00:24:45.799 --> 00:24:48.480
It's usually a two three minute process to teach them

477
00:24:48.480 --> 00:24:52.519
how to play the bulls. And after that they are

478
00:24:52.680 --> 00:24:57.279
so grateful for the fact that they were able to

479
00:24:57.359 --> 00:25:01.839
access beautiful tones like that, and so it's an aspiring

480
00:25:01.920 --> 00:25:04.799
moment for them in a moment of gratitude where they're like,

481
00:25:04.880 --> 00:25:09.039
I didn't think this was accessible and suddenly they have

482
00:25:09.079 --> 00:25:12.039
a relationship with sound. And I think a lot of

483
00:25:12.039 --> 00:25:14.640
people have given up a relationship with sound in their lives.

484
00:25:14.640 --> 00:25:16.319
How many people do we know that used to play

485
00:25:16.359 --> 00:25:18.960
the piano when they were younger, used to have an

486
00:25:18.960 --> 00:25:22.039
instrument or something, and they've walked away from it, they

487
00:25:22.079 --> 00:25:26.319
don't do it anymore, and suddenly sound and beautiful sound

488
00:25:26.440 --> 00:25:30.720
is accessible to them and it's you know, it's half

489
00:25:30.759 --> 00:25:33.480
the time that people That is a tear jerking moment

490
00:25:33.519 --> 00:25:34.240
for a lot of people.

491
00:25:35.279 --> 00:25:39.559
So a recommended amount of time or a way to

492
00:25:39.680 --> 00:25:41.880
use it, or like this sacred shock with a bowl

493
00:25:41.920 --> 00:25:45.279
that I have, for example, I played on occasion, I

494
00:25:45.319 --> 00:25:47.359
make it sound for a while and then I'm like, okay,

495
00:25:47.440 --> 00:25:48.960
let's it, and I walk away from it. It was

496
00:25:49.079 --> 00:25:53.119
it's maybe thirty seconds, maybe a minute to get the

497
00:25:53.119 --> 00:25:55.759
full benefit of something like this. Should you you mentioned

498
00:25:55.759 --> 00:25:58.160
doing it for an hour or two? Is that something

499
00:25:58.200 --> 00:26:03.799
that you recommend or two minutes? Like it's I know

500
00:26:03.799 --> 00:26:05.559
you can say it's up to the individual person, but

501
00:26:06.119 --> 00:26:09.759
what is the least amount like that you should try

502
00:26:09.799 --> 00:26:11.480
to do to get the benefits of the sound.

503
00:26:13.000 --> 00:26:15.680
So it's effective in a lot of different ways. There's

504
00:26:15.720 --> 00:26:18.720
many stories of people that I hear that buy the balls,

505
00:26:18.720 --> 00:26:21.960
that use them in ways that are very short amounts

506
00:26:21.960 --> 00:26:25.920
of time for their application. So an example is a

507
00:26:26.000 --> 00:26:28.920
person that trades on the market all day long and

508
00:26:29.599 --> 00:26:34.039
they get so chaotic and so phrenetic about the experience

509
00:26:34.039 --> 00:26:36.640
of chasing. So many different things that it's hard for

510
00:26:36.680 --> 00:26:39.759
them to get interer knowing and clarity back, and so

511
00:26:40.759 --> 00:26:43.680
using the balls for three or four minutes to just

512
00:26:43.759 --> 00:26:47.039
in between that activity to get that inner to reconnect

513
00:26:47.039 --> 00:26:50.319
somatically with the body to get inter knowing back, it

514
00:26:50.359 --> 00:26:53.079
may be a long enough time. In other cases, people

515
00:26:53.119 --> 00:26:58.200
may want to enhance a meditation that they're having and

516
00:26:58.240 --> 00:27:01.279
they may go on for an hour with because they're

517
00:27:01.319 --> 00:27:04.119
thinking about something that's really meaningful and important to them

518
00:27:04.160 --> 00:27:07.400
as they're playing, and it's making it more effective. For me,

519
00:27:07.720 --> 00:27:11.440
fifteen minutes is usually my limit of how long I

520
00:27:11.519 --> 00:27:14.119
like to play when I'm playing. For others, I like

521
00:27:14.160 --> 00:27:18.839
to play longer, but for myself, I prefer that short

522
00:27:18.839 --> 00:27:20.759
spurt of maybe five to fifteen minutes.

523
00:27:20.839 --> 00:27:23.440
Then when you say play, you've got a whole orchestra

524
00:27:23.559 --> 00:27:25.599
in front of you. If we only got one bowl,

525
00:27:25.720 --> 00:27:27.839
does it make I mean, is it is it the

526
00:27:27.880 --> 00:27:29.799
same or do you need to have Ah.

527
00:27:30.359 --> 00:27:32.599
That's just as funny we just got one bowl.

528
00:27:34.680 --> 00:27:37.680
No, it makes a lot of sense because you're a

529
00:27:37.720 --> 00:27:40.680
lot of times there's this feeling of am I really

530
00:27:40.720 --> 00:27:43.440
holding this space with just one bowl? Yeah?

531
00:27:43.519 --> 00:27:44.000
Exactly?

532
00:27:44.519 --> 00:27:46.359
Isn't this going to get and it isn't going to

533
00:27:46.400 --> 00:27:48.359
get boring, which is.

534
00:27:48.279 --> 00:27:49.880
Why I stop after a minute. I'm like, Okay, I

535
00:27:49.920 --> 00:27:51.480
had enough of that. If I had another ball.

536
00:27:51.440 --> 00:27:53.680
These, I can go for another minute, you know, and

537
00:27:53.720 --> 00:27:56.079
then back to Well, I think it's yeah, I think

538
00:27:56.079 --> 00:27:59.000
it's what it's. If it's one minute that satiates you

539
00:27:59.039 --> 00:28:00.680
with the one bowl, then it's you need. And I

540
00:28:00.720 --> 00:28:03.680
do think I'm more likely when i only have one

541
00:28:03.720 --> 00:28:06.400
bowl and I'm at home, when I'm trying to kind

542
00:28:06.440 --> 00:28:09.759
of reconnect with some clarity or get a burst of

543
00:28:09.799 --> 00:28:13.079
inspiration or something, then that one bowl for five minutes

544
00:28:13.160 --> 00:28:16.799
is definitely enough. But there's so many different ways to

545
00:28:16.880 --> 00:28:21.119
play just one bowl. So one thing, especially about the

546
00:28:21.160 --> 00:28:24.480
crystal balls is there's a relationship where they play with

547
00:28:24.519 --> 00:28:29.359
such ease that there's an interesting dance that you're doing

548
00:28:29.359 --> 00:28:33.200
while you're playing the bowl of receptivity and then kind

549
00:28:33.200 --> 00:28:36.160
of strength that's going back and forth. And a lot

550
00:28:36.160 --> 00:28:38.319
of the times when I'm playing the bowl, just one

551
00:28:38.359 --> 00:28:41.000
bowl for an extended period of time, what I'm thinking

552
00:28:41.039 --> 00:28:44.880
about is how little energy I have to put into

553
00:28:44.880 --> 00:28:47.440
it and how much I'm getting back and I'm doing

554
00:28:47.480 --> 00:28:50.640
that dance and I'm letting it sound subside and then

555
00:28:50.640 --> 00:28:53.599
I'm putting more energy into it. And with Tibetan metal bowl,

556
00:28:53.640 --> 00:28:54.920
a lot of times it has to be a lot

557
00:28:54.960 --> 00:28:59.039
more forced. So fine alchemy crystal balls are a little

558
00:28:59.039 --> 00:29:02.839
bit different related where there's a lot more subtlety, there's

559
00:29:02.880 --> 00:29:06.440
a pulse, there's an oscillation, you're letting it subside, you're

560
00:29:06.440 --> 00:29:09.240
bringing it back, and so that dance with even one

561
00:29:09.279 --> 00:29:11.839
bowl can kind of fill a lot of space and

562
00:29:11.920 --> 00:29:14.519
time without without a lot of effort.

563
00:29:14.960 --> 00:29:17.960
So you have about six bowls, it looks like around

564
00:29:18.000 --> 00:29:20.359
you do you you.

565
00:29:20.359 --> 00:29:22.160
Missed the missing the mixing bowl, that's.

566
00:29:22.920 --> 00:29:27.119
The small Yeah, seven bowls do you have? Like is

567
00:29:27.160 --> 00:29:30.400
it kind of like at all like notes on a

568
00:29:30.480 --> 00:29:32.799
scale where like each ball represents a certain one and

569
00:29:32.880 --> 00:29:36.799
so you should have one of each or is everything

570
00:29:37.240 --> 00:29:37.839
period different?

571
00:29:38.880 --> 00:29:42.079
Yeah, every bowl is totally Especially in this alchemy crystal

572
00:29:42.079 --> 00:29:45.039
bal world, every bowl is so unique and so different.

573
00:29:45.079 --> 00:29:47.680
Literally they're all one of a kind. There's not a

574
00:29:47.720 --> 00:29:51.480
single one made like another one. They're literally born, Every

575
00:29:51.519 --> 00:29:54.119
single one of them are born. Whatever note and tone

576
00:29:54.160 --> 00:29:56.799
they show up, they don't grind them, they don't do

577
00:29:56.920 --> 00:30:00.759
anything to make them any certain pitch. So so the

578
00:30:00.839 --> 00:30:04.640
reason why we carry so many we have about five

579
00:30:04.640 --> 00:30:07.480
to six hundred usually is because they are so different,

580
00:30:07.519 --> 00:30:10.319
and to combine them with any harmony, you have to

581
00:30:10.480 --> 00:30:15.359
look for combinations that actually sound good together. So there

582
00:30:15.480 --> 00:30:18.480
is an intention behind it, like in this set typically,

583
00:30:18.799 --> 00:30:21.880
but the intention can arise from so many different dimensions

584
00:30:21.920 --> 00:30:25.880
of thought. So if you're trying to please someone from

585
00:30:26.200 --> 00:30:29.240
a musical perspective, you would have the intention of making

586
00:30:29.839 --> 00:30:33.799
equal temperament bowls that are basically the same pitch, so

587
00:30:33.839 --> 00:30:36.000
you don't have some that are sharper some that are flatter.

588
00:30:36.599 --> 00:30:38.839
And you would also go for notes that are typical

589
00:30:38.920 --> 00:30:43.400
harmonic chords, like major triads, Like a CEG is the

590
00:30:43.440 --> 00:30:45.720
most common major triad out there. It's the one we

591
00:30:45.720 --> 00:30:48.519
would recognize the most, and so like in this set,

592
00:30:48.839 --> 00:30:51.839
I'm doing that with a major triad, but I'm going

593
00:30:51.920 --> 00:30:57.319
from a C sharp e, a C sharp e A,

594
00:30:57.680 --> 00:31:01.319
and then C sharp again, and I'm encompassing two three

595
00:31:01.359 --> 00:31:04.640
octaves of C sharps with those major triad notes in

596
00:31:04.680 --> 00:31:07.240
the middle of there. So I've got chords and octaves

597
00:31:07.839 --> 00:31:10.440
and I can invert the chords and everything, but the

598
00:31:10.480 --> 00:31:12.240
key is that I can play all of them at

599
00:31:12.240 --> 00:31:16.160
once and nothing will sound wrong. It's like having a

600
00:31:16.240 --> 00:31:19.480
keyboard that you can never hit the wrong key, and

601
00:31:19.559 --> 00:31:23.440
so assembling a set of balls like that really allows

602
00:31:23.480 --> 00:31:26.480
you to have this freedom of just intuition of going

603
00:31:26.519 --> 00:31:29.279
wherever you want to go without having to really think

604
00:31:29.400 --> 00:31:32.039
or or have years and years of experience of music

605
00:31:32.079 --> 00:31:34.519
reading and understanding of sound. What's going to sound good

606
00:31:34.559 --> 00:31:34.920
together and.

607
00:31:34.960 --> 00:31:37.480
Never hit the wrong note that sounds like exactly my

608
00:31:37.599 --> 00:31:38.359
type of instrument.

609
00:31:39.880 --> 00:31:41.440
I've only played the radio.

610
00:31:43.119 --> 00:31:46.440
All right, Well, you graciously offered to do a sound

611
00:31:46.480 --> 00:31:50.079
bath for us live on the show. Typically like, how

612
00:31:50.119 --> 00:31:53.039
long do you think you would do this for? So

613
00:31:53.119 --> 00:31:53.720
we're prepared.

614
00:31:55.400 --> 00:31:58.839
I think probably around fifteen minutes will be a good

615
00:31:59.240 --> 00:32:03.400
amount for this experience. It could go ten, could go twenty,

616
00:32:03.440 --> 00:32:06.319
but whatever you'd like, we can and it could you know,

617
00:32:06.640 --> 00:32:10.039
sometimes we do online sound healings that are an hour,

618
00:32:10.119 --> 00:32:12.559
hour and fifteen minutes, and when you've got headphones and

619
00:32:12.599 --> 00:32:15.000
you can just lay down in your bed or do

620
00:32:15.039 --> 00:32:18.119
whatever you want to, then it really can be a

621
00:32:18.279 --> 00:32:19.480
restorative experience.

622
00:32:19.599 --> 00:32:21.680
Okay, So if people are listening to this in the

623
00:32:21.799 --> 00:32:25.039
car as they're driving, is this going to just relax them?

624
00:32:25.039 --> 00:32:26.960
So much that they shouldn't be listening to it while

625
00:32:26.960 --> 00:32:28.599
they're driving, or is it fine?

626
00:32:30.559 --> 00:32:32.759
It seems like to have an abundance of caution might

627
00:32:32.799 --> 00:32:37.480
be just to be sure. Yeah, especially if you're already

628
00:32:37.480 --> 00:32:40.160
in a state where you're close to being able to

629
00:32:40.200 --> 00:32:42.240
relax quickly and you never.

630
00:32:42.240 --> 00:32:45.559
And you'll get more a better benefit if you are

631
00:32:45.640 --> 00:32:47.720
actually in a place where you can just like you said,

632
00:32:47.720 --> 00:32:51.240
put your headphones on, lay down and just take into south.

633
00:32:51.359 --> 00:32:53.720
Now, if we need to tell our driving listeners to

634
00:32:53.839 --> 00:32:56.000
hit that pause button until you get home and you're

635
00:32:56.039 --> 00:32:58.200
in a place where you can relax and just listen

636
00:32:58.200 --> 00:32:59.000
to it and enjoy.

637
00:32:58.799 --> 00:33:01.319
It, consider it said. There you go, Thank you for

638
00:33:01.400 --> 00:33:04.759
that caution. Okay, Ryan, Well then what should we be doing.

639
00:33:05.039 --> 00:33:06.640
Should we have our eyes closed? Should we just be

640
00:33:06.680 --> 00:33:09.240
watching you? Is this like a performance thing? Or are

641
00:33:09.240 --> 00:33:12.279
we just going to let the sound wash over us?

642
00:33:12.359 --> 00:33:14.480
How do you recommend we experience this?

643
00:33:17.240 --> 00:33:22.440
I would say, find the most relaxing space that you can,

644
00:33:23.039 --> 00:33:25.039
like I said, with the sound, with the sound quality

645
00:33:25.079 --> 00:33:28.759
will be the best with the headphones, and maybe start

646
00:33:28.839 --> 00:33:31.359
with the full range of the breath all the way

647
00:33:31.359 --> 00:33:33.720
in and all the way out until you forget to

648
00:33:33.759 --> 00:33:35.920
do that, and whenever you forget to do that, you

649
00:33:35.960 --> 00:33:38.359
can just return to the natural rhythm of your breath.

650
00:33:38.799 --> 00:33:41.319
But long, slow breathing is going to interact with the

651
00:33:41.640 --> 00:33:44.400
central nervous system. It's going to drop you from that

652
00:33:44.519 --> 00:33:48.839
stress down into rest. And then if you can do

653
00:33:48.920 --> 00:33:52.240
that through the nose even better if you're a little congested,

654
00:33:52.599 --> 00:33:56.960
you know, through the mouth is fine. And then body

655
00:33:57.000 --> 00:34:00.400
scanning is also a great thing to do if you

656
00:34:00.039 --> 00:34:02.119
you know, you don't want to make this too cerebral,

657
00:34:02.279 --> 00:34:04.960
but if you notice any points of the body that

658
00:34:05.000 --> 00:34:09.639
are holding tension, and you can further relax those points

659
00:34:09.639 --> 00:34:13.960
of the body just by thinking about my feet really relaxed. Oh,

660
00:34:14.079 --> 00:34:17.039
I could relax them more and just letting gravity take

661
00:34:17.079 --> 00:34:21.239
hold and continuing just to continually rest deeper and deeper.

662
00:34:21.440 --> 00:34:22.119
That would be great.

663
00:34:22.920 --> 00:34:27.760
All right, Well, then without further ado the floor, Ryan.

664
00:34:27.639 --> 00:34:30.159
Should we move these is yours? That's sounds creepy breathing

665
00:34:30.199 --> 00:34:32.480
into it.

666
00:34:33.039 --> 00:34:34.960
My breath does not sound creepy, thank you very much.

667
00:34:35.000 --> 00:37:45.320
But okay, I'll move my microphone.

668
00:38:00.119 --> 00:46:00.239
Oh I.

669
00:47:09.119 --> 00:47:10.039
Almost don't want to talk.

670
00:47:10.280 --> 00:47:17.800
I know, wow, I know, Holy cow.

671
00:47:19.400 --> 00:47:22.800
Ran that took me places. I didn't do the full

672
00:47:23.599 --> 00:47:26.760
meditation stuff and it's still it just drops you there.

673
00:47:26.880 --> 00:47:28.800
It took me places. Yeah, I just washed over. I

674
00:47:28.840 --> 00:47:30.599
felt it, I hear I heard it in my ear,

675
00:47:31.559 --> 00:47:35.599
but I felt it everywhere like I felt it everywhere.

676
00:47:36.280 --> 00:47:39.960
That was amazing. Yeah, how you feel it feeling relaxed.

677
00:47:40.000 --> 00:47:42.199
I'm feeling really relaxed, like the top of my head

678
00:47:42.280 --> 00:47:44.639
was burning burning. Yeah, that was weird.

679
00:47:44.800 --> 00:47:46.559
Well, I tried to put it out before.

680
00:47:48.519 --> 00:47:50.039
I got I'll ting it. And the weird thing like

681
00:47:50.039 --> 00:47:52.760
I could feel my sinuses like I'm not stuffy, but

682
00:47:52.800 --> 00:47:55.000
they just totally like opened.

683
00:47:55.239 --> 00:47:56.679
Yeah, I'm not having stiffed once.

684
00:47:57.559 --> 00:47:58.960
Wow. That was amazing.

685
00:47:59.199 --> 00:48:00.000
It was amazing.

686
00:48:00.000 --> 00:48:01.440
Thank you.

687
00:48:03.039 --> 00:48:04.880
I think one of the questions that you've had before

688
00:48:05.000 --> 00:48:09.440
is does online sound healing? Actually yes, yeah.

689
00:48:10.039 --> 00:48:13.639
I apparently sound waves come through just fine. They don't

690
00:48:13.639 --> 00:48:16.480
have to be in person, which is really interesting to

691
00:48:16.519 --> 00:48:20.840
me because I've always thought that, you know, sound waves

692
00:48:21.000 --> 00:48:23.960
are sound waves. It is a matter of science. There's

693
00:48:23.960 --> 00:48:28.599
a there's a physics states that sounds are waves and

694
00:48:28.639 --> 00:48:34.079
they'll move on into space forever and as just as

695
00:48:34.159 --> 00:48:38.519
just like light. But I guess electronic means allows us

696
00:48:38.519 --> 00:48:43.000
sound waves to travel through them and that's that's like

697
00:48:43.039 --> 00:48:47.920
the radio, yes, but but the radio just doesn't make

698
00:48:47.960 --> 00:48:50.480
you feel this made you feel.

699
00:48:50.800 --> 00:48:54.360
Well, I mean, we don't. And if they play this exclusively.

700
00:48:53.800 --> 00:48:55.360
Over the radio, it might, you know what, I think

701
00:48:55.400 --> 00:48:57.760
they should. They should maybe open the radio station. Is

702
00:48:57.840 --> 00:48:59.400
just this stuff amazing.

703
00:49:00.039 --> 00:49:05.000
If nobody would do anything.

704
00:49:04.639 --> 00:49:06.559
Well, you're doing is such a good way. I mean

705
00:49:06.880 --> 00:49:10.599
even you know, listening with the full headphones over your ears.

706
00:49:10.679 --> 00:49:12.840
We talked about the Vegas nerve coming to the outer ear.

707
00:49:13.239 --> 00:49:16.960
You're giving that whole area chance to feel that vibration,

708
00:49:17.119 --> 00:49:17.639
not just here.

709
00:49:17.719 --> 00:49:18.360
Yeah I was.

710
00:49:18.480 --> 00:49:20.840
And if we did it in your in your classic

711
00:49:20.920 --> 00:49:24.320
car with was it a classic car, well, I just

712
00:49:24.360 --> 00:49:27.320
know it how deep they did it there, we'd really

713
00:49:27.360 --> 00:49:27.800
be feeling.

714
00:49:27.920 --> 00:49:29.800
Yeah, that would be pretty amazing.

715
00:49:29.880 --> 00:49:31.679
You know what, I'm thinking. It's probably good to not

716
00:49:31.760 --> 00:49:34.239
drive while you listening to this. Definitely, like pretty sure

717
00:49:34.239 --> 00:49:36.559
I left my body. Oh that's outside. I was watching

718
00:49:36.599 --> 00:49:40.559
a red car drive away. Okay, probably wouldn't be good

719
00:49:40.599 --> 00:49:42.320
if I was driving at that moment.

720
00:49:42.480 --> 00:49:44.880
No, So I'm glad that you gave the caution, that

721
00:49:45.320 --> 00:49:45.760
the warning.

722
00:49:46.280 --> 00:49:48.239
Wow, that's amazing. It just was beautiful.

723
00:49:48.320 --> 00:49:50.719
It was it was gorgeous. Thank you, and I loved

724
00:49:51.280 --> 00:49:54.280
how you ended it. You you were doing the woo

725
00:49:54.360 --> 00:49:56.880
woo woo woos all the whole time, and it wasn't

726
00:49:56.960 --> 00:49:59.920
until the very end when you ing and it just

727
00:50:00.079 --> 00:50:03.159
closed out so perfectly. And at that point in time,

728
00:50:03.199 --> 00:50:05.159
I had opened my eyes, I was looking watching what

729
00:50:05.199 --> 00:50:06.679
you were doing, so I really wanted to see it.

730
00:50:08.119 --> 00:50:14.039
The subtlest of touches is what elicited that ding sound

731
00:50:14.199 --> 00:50:17.440
like you were just barely touching the bowl, and that

732
00:50:18.119 --> 00:50:22.159
the amount of sound that comes out of these is remarkable.

733
00:50:23.880 --> 00:50:27.360
This manufacturer is just extraordinary. Like you said, it's like

734
00:50:28.239 --> 00:50:31.920
the finest wine glass when you know the difference between

735
00:50:31.920 --> 00:50:34.599
getting kind of a glass that's kind of thick and

736
00:50:34.679 --> 00:50:39.039
dull versus a really thin rimmed, beautiful wine glass and

737
00:50:39.039 --> 00:50:41.519
how that feels when you rub your finger around it.

738
00:50:41.599 --> 00:50:44.599
You can find the same difference in crystal bowls that

739
00:50:44.960 --> 00:50:47.320
you can find ones that are just exquisite and you

740
00:50:47.360 --> 00:50:49.719
can find ones that are a little take a little

741
00:50:49.719 --> 00:50:50.159
more work.

742
00:50:50.480 --> 00:50:50.719
Yeah.

743
00:50:51.639 --> 00:50:54.719
I just love how every different tone, like for at

744
00:50:54.800 --> 00:50:56.840
least for me, affected me differently, and I felt it

745
00:50:56.880 --> 00:50:59.960
in a different place and it like elicit a different response.

746
00:51:00.079 --> 00:51:01.599
It's just really so cool.

747
00:51:02.199 --> 00:51:04.480
I think it was the purple one that you have there,

748
00:51:04.519 --> 00:51:07.920
that's the second biggest one. When you first played that,

749
00:51:08.039 --> 00:51:12.000
like I almost reached over and turned my headphone volume

750
00:51:12.079 --> 00:51:15.760
down because it was so overwhelming. But then after a

751
00:51:15.800 --> 00:51:18.320
while it just just took me right in.

752
00:51:18.400 --> 00:51:19.639
Did you have your eyes open the whole time?

753
00:51:19.719 --> 00:51:21.440
No, of just like shut.

754
00:51:21.239 --> 00:51:22.639
Them shut.

755
00:51:24.119 --> 00:51:25.639
So I could watch him, because I also wanted to

756
00:51:25.639 --> 00:51:32.440
watch him perform it. So it's interesting because I see

757
00:51:32.480 --> 00:51:35.599
that those crystal bowls are just sitting on that carpet

758
00:51:35.880 --> 00:51:41.079
on the floor, my Tibetan bowl. If I don't put

759
00:51:41.079 --> 00:51:46.800
it on something, it gives me nothing. So that that

760
00:51:47.000 --> 00:51:49.559
there's that big of a difference, I'm assuming between this

761
00:51:49.679 --> 00:51:51.480
metal bowl and the crystals where you can just play

762
00:51:51.519 --> 00:51:52.280
it off of anything.

763
00:51:53.519 --> 00:51:57.039
There is a huge difference. But it's not all that

764
00:51:57.079 --> 00:51:59.360
there is one more trick that I've got. But you

765
00:51:59.480 --> 00:52:02.079
noticed when I was going around the bowls that even

766
00:52:02.199 --> 00:52:06.119
just a maybe a halfway around the bowl was all

767
00:52:06.119 --> 00:52:08.440
I needed, not even a full circle around the bowl,

768
00:52:08.440 --> 00:52:11.239
because it's so reactive. Where a Tibetan bowl a lot

769
00:52:11.280 --> 00:52:14.480
of times it's almost you versus the bowl. Like yes,

770
00:52:14.519 --> 00:52:16.280
it's like I'm not going to play and you're like,

771
00:52:16.400 --> 00:52:17.800
I will willing you to play.

772
00:52:18.840 --> 00:52:21.679
Yes, yes, you've seen me try to do it?

773
00:52:21.719 --> 00:52:26.599
Then seriously, more stress, it's not in the opposite effect.

774
00:52:27.599 --> 00:52:30.599
But one more trick is this little tiny silicone ring

775
00:52:31.079 --> 00:52:32.480
that sits between the bowl.

776
00:52:32.800 --> 00:52:34.280
Okay, so yeah, so.

777
00:52:34.320 --> 00:52:36.880
That's it raises it up a little bit, right.

778
00:52:36.920 --> 00:52:38.719
That makes sense because I think the floor were probably

779
00:52:38.719 --> 00:52:43.280
deadn't the vibrations somewhat up? So if someone wants to

780
00:52:43.280 --> 00:52:46.360
bring sound healing into their daily life, what's the simplest

781
00:52:46.360 --> 00:52:47.440
place for them to start?

782
00:52:49.159 --> 00:52:52.679
Yeah, finding a bowl mate is what I'd recommend. And

783
00:52:53.360 --> 00:52:56.559
so that's the process of letting go of all those things.

784
00:52:56.719 --> 00:53:00.000
Like you, Karen, you said, I think you were discounting

785
00:53:00.079 --> 00:53:02.440
the fact that you thought they were pretty, and who

786
00:53:02.559 --> 00:53:06.440
knows what that means because I used to discount that too.

787
00:53:06.480 --> 00:53:09.440
But what I find is that people choose their bulls,

788
00:53:09.519 --> 00:53:13.800
even from outside the store, by looking, and after they

789
00:53:13.840 --> 00:53:16.920
play even one hundred of them, they never go past

790
00:53:17.000 --> 00:53:19.400
that one that they first saw. So I think there's

791
00:53:19.400 --> 00:53:22.639
something more about that connection that we're making through visually.

792
00:53:23.159 --> 00:53:25.760
Something It might even be that we can sense something

793
00:53:25.920 --> 00:53:28.199
way beyond the visual.

794
00:53:27.920 --> 00:53:28.639
Aspect of it.

795
00:53:28.800 --> 00:53:33.039
Draw maybe we can sense it's an important part of

796
00:53:33.039 --> 00:53:36.960
our future. I don't know, And that shift comes by

797
00:53:37.159 --> 00:53:39.599
letting go of all that and choosing an instrument that

798
00:53:39.719 --> 00:53:43.119
you just lights you up. Is it just feels like

799
00:53:43.159 --> 00:53:45.639
in your heart like a crush on someone and then

800
00:53:45.679 --> 00:53:48.159
you know, okay, this is the bull and that's what

801
00:53:48.239 --> 00:53:50.079
we call it, the bull mate. So start with one

802
00:53:50.119 --> 00:53:52.719
of those. We can help anybody who wants to expand

803
00:53:52.760 --> 00:53:56.320
that from a ball mate to multiple bulls, which we

804
00:53:56.440 --> 00:53:58.920
usually call friends or a family of bulls friends. And

805
00:53:58.960 --> 00:54:01.960
that's how we yeah, that's how we and we just

806
00:54:02.000 --> 00:54:04.800
help make sure they're in harmony and they sound really

807
00:54:04.920 --> 00:54:06.360
beautiful when they're played together.

808
00:54:06.440 --> 00:54:09.960
Now, can someone do you recommend someone actually go in

809
00:54:10.079 --> 00:54:12.760
somewhere and play the bowl before they choose it or

810
00:54:12.840 --> 00:54:15.239
is it something that someone could buy something online? And

811
00:54:15.559 --> 00:54:17.159
if so, how does someone do that?

812
00:54:18.519 --> 00:54:21.719
If you have accessibility to go play, then there's nothing better.

813
00:54:22.320 --> 00:54:24.840
But most people that we work with now don't have

814
00:54:24.880 --> 00:54:27.880
the accessibility to come into the store. They just you know.

815
00:54:28.079 --> 00:54:30.039
So seventy five percent of the people we work with

816
00:54:30.159 --> 00:54:33.880
or in other countries or in other locations, and the

817
00:54:33.920 --> 00:54:36.400
way we work with them is we've got recordings of

818
00:54:36.480 --> 00:54:39.760
every single one of the bulls, and they can even

819
00:54:39.760 --> 00:54:43.079
play multiple recordings at once to see how they sound together,

820
00:54:43.760 --> 00:54:47.000
and so that gives them a pretty good idea of

821
00:54:47.119 --> 00:54:49.400
how the balls sound and how they will sound when

822
00:54:49.400 --> 00:54:50.880
they play on themselves.

823
00:54:51.360 --> 00:54:55.760
Very very cool. So obviously you're in the Encinitas, California area,

824
00:54:55.800 --> 00:54:59.480
So if someone's in that area, definitely go to the store.

825
00:55:00.079 --> 00:55:02.639
What is the name of it, It's It's Sound of

826
00:55:03.280 --> 00:55:06.280
the Soul, Sacred Sound of the Same, Sacred Sound of

827
00:55:06.280 --> 00:55:09.199
Sacred to definitely go go check them out. But if

828
00:55:09.360 --> 00:55:12.760
if you are not in the California area, and if

829
00:55:12.800 --> 00:55:15.599
someone wants to reach out to talk to you about

830
00:55:15.599 --> 00:55:20.039
purchasing or acquiring their buddy bowl or their family of

831
00:55:20.159 --> 00:55:23.480
bulls bull mate, sorry, their bull mate or there I

832
00:55:23.519 --> 00:55:27.039
love that bull mates, wait way better. I don't know

833
00:55:27.719 --> 00:55:31.960
stems to dude, is someone? How can someone be in

834
00:55:32.000 --> 00:55:32.599
touch with you?

835
00:55:33.599 --> 00:55:37.079
Sacred Sound of Thesoul dot com is the easiest way

836
00:55:37.119 --> 00:55:38.840
to see all the bulls and then you can also

837
00:55:38.880 --> 00:55:42.079
email us at info at Sacred Soundofthsoul dot com. But

838
00:55:42.119 --> 00:55:44.119
all that information is on the website. Once you find

839
00:55:44.119 --> 00:55:47.559
the website, it'll lead you to everything we do consultations online,

840
00:55:47.559 --> 00:55:50.519
we do consultations in person. It's all by appointment because

841
00:55:50.840 --> 00:55:54.440
like you said with the salad bowl or if you

842
00:55:54.480 --> 00:55:57.199
don't if you don't know about this, then you're gonna

843
00:55:57.239 --> 00:55:59.239
just think of it as a mixing boy. So we

844
00:55:59.239 --> 00:56:01.000
we just wait to work with people who are really

845
00:56:01.039 --> 00:56:03.960
excited about it. But if you're excited about it, then

846
00:56:04.079 --> 00:56:05.599
then we'll help you get to the right place.

847
00:56:05.800 --> 00:56:08.719
Some awesome That far is Insanita's how far is that

848
00:56:08.760 --> 00:56:09.679
from Culver City?

849
00:56:12.559 --> 00:56:15.239
I think it's a couple hours with no traffic, Okay,

850
00:56:15.440 --> 00:56:17.000
two to three hours with no trust.

851
00:56:17.119 --> 00:56:19.480
She's asking for selfish reasons. She has a nephew out there.

852
00:56:20.320 --> 00:56:21.280
But he's all about sound.

853
00:56:21.400 --> 00:56:24.480
He is all about soundish. Yeah, so you might want

854
00:56:24.519 --> 00:56:25.440
to go check it out. That's true.

855
00:56:25.559 --> 00:56:26.639
Love to meet him, all right.

856
00:56:26.679 --> 00:56:28.599
So we're going to add that link in our show notes.

857
00:56:28.639 --> 00:56:29.920
So if you didn't have a pen in that particular

858
00:56:29.960 --> 00:56:31.159
point in time, all you need to do is go

859
00:56:31.159 --> 00:56:34.239
to Skeptic Metaphysician dot com and you will see in

860
00:56:34.320 --> 00:56:38.599
his episode the link directly laid into the show notes,

861
00:56:38.639 --> 00:56:40.800
so it's easy for you to reach out right. This

862
00:56:40.840 --> 00:56:43.559
has been fantastic. Thank you for your patience while we

863
00:56:43.840 --> 00:56:46.880
shuffled the times about one hundred and seventeen times.

864
00:56:46.960 --> 00:56:47.920
The last couple of months.

865
00:56:48.280 --> 00:56:51.960
We really appreciate your your introducing us to these things

866
00:56:52.000 --> 00:56:53.199
because I am.

867
00:56:54.039 --> 00:56:57.639
Hooked as amazing. Yeah, really it is. It's instant.

868
00:56:57.719 --> 00:57:00.000
Holy cat, I am hooked. So I might need to

869
00:57:00.320 --> 00:57:02.360
go find my soul bowl.

870
00:57:03.039 --> 00:57:06.000
Mate, bullmade soul bowl.

871
00:57:08.199 --> 00:57:10.760
I love Will's ideas for the name for the second

872
00:57:10.760 --> 00:57:13.360
I'm gonna from now on if a if a really

873
00:57:13.400 --> 00:57:15.360
masculine guy comes in, I'm going to say, you need

874
00:57:15.400 --> 00:57:16.599
a buddy bowl instead.

875
00:57:16.360 --> 00:57:16.679
Of the ball.

876
00:57:16.800 --> 00:57:19.639
There you go, there you go, yeah yeah, or a

877
00:57:19.679 --> 00:57:22.519
significant bowl significant bowl er.

878
00:57:24.960 --> 00:57:26.760
All right, right, thank you so much for coming down

879
00:57:26.800 --> 00:57:28.480
the show and sharing your expertise with us.

880
00:57:28.599 --> 00:57:30.360
That's great. Thank you so much for having me.

881
00:57:31.000 --> 00:57:32.440
Okay, well that does it for this episode of the

882
00:57:32.440 --> 00:57:34.840
Skeptic Matisicians. Thanks for coming along on this journey beyond

883
00:57:34.840 --> 00:57:38.000
the Veil. If you're enjoying the ride, don't forget to

884
00:57:38.119 --> 00:57:41.320
visit us at Skeptic Metaphysician dot com to dive even

885
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886
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887
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888
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889
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890
00:58:00.159 --> 00:58:03.320
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893
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Ryan Stanley is a devoted parent, spouse, sound healer, and yoga teacher. Ryan is the owner of Sacred Sound of the Soul, a sound healing instruments store specializing in alchemy crystal singing bowls, as well as Soul of Yoga, a Yoga Studio and Yoga teacher training institute in Encinitas, CA. With a background in corporate leadership, finance, and organizational transformation, he now focuses his energy on helping people awaken to their true nature through sound healing and spiritual practice. He considers himself a forever student of yoga, meditation, music, and alchemy sound bowls, and is deeply committed to sharing meaningful experiences and serving others through this work.