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UFO Disclosure, Infinite Consciousness, and How to Stay Sane Right Now

UFO Disclosure, Infinite Consciousness, and How to Stay Sane Right Now
UFO Disclosure, Infinite Consciousness, and How to Stay Sane Right Now
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UFO Disclosure, Infinite Consciousness, and How to Stay Sane Right Now

What if the reason you can't figure it out is the point? In this bonus LIVE episode, Will and Karen pull back the curtain on one of those rare, unscripted conversations that reminds you why you found this show in the first place. It starts with a meditation download Karen received at the symphony... yes, the symphony... and spirals into one of the most honest and wide-ranging discussions they've had in a long time.

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The Download. Karen meditates at a Mother's Day symphony performance and receives what she can only describe as a fractal of infinite consciousness expanding in every direction. The message? Stop trying to comprehend what you were never built to comprehend.

Disclosure and the UFO question. Are the crafts physical or interdimensional? Did we already recover bodies at crash sites? And is Hollywood quietly preparing us for something?

Will references the Light, Sound & Frequency podcast and the Dark Skies origin story that may make you look at your movie queue differently.

The fear machine. Will draws on his years inside mainstream news to explain exactly how the "if it bleeds, it leads" mindset works, and why fear isn't just a side effect of the media. it's the product.

Love as the antidote. Karen shares a late-night breakthrough conversation that left her overwhelmed by what love actually feels like when you let it build. Will follows with a revelation from Robert Monroe's Far Journeys... what we call love in the 3D world may be a pale shadow of what it actually is.

How to hold on right now. The energies are rough... they both say it plainly. This segment is a direct message to anyone who's been feeling it: you're not imagining it, and you don't have to white-knuckle it alone.

Plus... they announce a very special upcoming LIVE guest: a psychic joining them on the second Tuesday in June to answer your questions live. Send yours in now.

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0:00 My name is Will and I'm Karen. And unlike Mulder and Scully, we've embarked on a journey of discovery. We've talked to people deeply entrenched in the spiritual and metaphysical world. We've thrown ourselves into weird and wonderful experiences. I even joined a Covenant Witches. And wait, you joined a Covenant? Yep, all in the interest of fighting something that will prove that there's something beyond this physical, three-dimensional world we all live in. This is the Skeptic Metaphysicians. It's your time. They caught you mid-ion. They did catch me mid-ion. Hi, Karen. Hi, Will. How are you doing? I'm doing great, how are you doing?

0:40 Welcome. Wow, that sounds amazing. I know. Welcome to the Skeptic Metaphysicians. Well, thank you. Welcome to YouTube. It's been a pleasure. Yeah. Thanks. Is it over? No. What's happening to me? Nope. Nope. Nope. I'm going to plug in our mouths here so that we don't run out of juice while we're doing this. So I'm not going to do anything for now. Okay. Maybe I'll do it later. Okay. And we welcome back to Skeptic Metaphysicians live. We appreciate you joining us here every month, every second Tuesday of the month we are here saying hello and answer any questions that you might have. Today we have a special surprise. Do we?

1:20 I mean, it's not really a surprise. I mean, it is a surprise. That's what you're going to do. But now you're like setting this bar and I was like, oh, really? That's the surprise. Well, we've been talking about the fact that every once in a while you get like these channelings and things like that. We never really talk about too much on the show. It's not what this is. However, it's adjacent. It's adjacent. It's adjacent. It's adjacent. It's not like it's like earth shattering. I think you think it's going to be. Well, all I know is that you got some downloads while during a meditation. And you are being so cryptic that you didn't wouldn't tell me until we came out to do live shows. So now you've got my interest up by keeping my curiosity.

2:03 First of all, when we were at the symphony. We were. And what a perfect place to meditate. I know it sounds super pretentious, right? We were at a timpony. Well, we were there for Mother's Day. And so our daughter plays. She goes to this really incredible music school. And so they got tickets to the symphony. So she got tickets to go. So that's what went to symphony. But I was thinking about this. And they say that math is the universal language. It's the language of the universe. So I guess it's something, right? But music, I think, is maybe the spoken language of the universe. Because it's based on math and vibrations. Well, that's the whole thing with closing counters of the third kind, right?

2:45 All the in this age of disclosure, all the stuff going on about the UFO files and things like that, right? The. That's that was the universal way of communicating to us, right? We both had music. And that's how we communicated. So you meditated to it, didn't you? I did. I did. I did. I dropped in for a minute or two, then I fell asleep. Oh, well, you dropped weight. Yes. Yes, that's a problem. If I don't meditate first thing in the morning, anytime in the any other time, I just just. Which is so weird because you're always saying you're too tired and the more I'm doing anything. Except. That's right. I mean, I'm just sitting there. So it's good. I can do that. I'm expert in it. Every sitting there, close your eyes.

3:25 You just wake up. You're like sitting on the bed. I just would pass out and just like get lower and lower lower. Lower. Well, they say that they say when you first wake up is the time where your body, your mind is the most active because it just woke up and it's like your circadian rhythm tells you it's time to get going. And that's when you have the most apt, you're the most apt not to fall asleep during meditation. It's the very first thing in the morning. Not me. I've tried. I have tried. But were you laying down? You can't be laying down. Yes, sit up. Oh, that's the problem. You try to lay down. You're going to fall asleep. If I meditate while I was laying down, I'll be sleeping in a second. Well, I work out now.

4:05 You do work out. That makes me up. Yeah. And then I meditate after that. Right. Anyways. Anyways. It's worth symphony. Let's try meditating because you're in this space with this incredible music playing. And I don't know if you notice, but you kind of get into the zone and you're watching all the violins and the violas and the cellos. And their hands all moved and their bows all move exactly the same. And when they were all playing kind of a similar part of a piece, it was like this wave all moving at the same time. It's like a flock of birds. Well, it might be more like a CNN, like what like a living creature, like just one living creature. Cool. That was composed of all of this. It was so cool. It was visual meditation too in a way. Well, yeah.

4:46 But then I closed my eyes. Then that's a visual then then. No, but when I closed my eyes and just kind of listen to music and feeling the vibrations and then I'll sudden just like I kind of got to an understanding. You know how people, some people, not every people, some people that have awakenings, it's really difficult for them and to the point where they almost feel like they're losing their minds because it's so much. And that's basically the down that I was getting was it's too much. It's too much to try to understand it now, so don't. Don't try to figure it out because it's too much. And it's kind of like, you know, we have the earth and then the earth is in the galaxy and then the galaxy is in the universe and then how many universes. Right.

5:27 You know, and it was like that on steroids. It's like our consciousness, you know, connects and it becomes this like universal consciousness made up of different different points. And then those points just become one point in a larger. And then that point becomes one point in a larger thing and it just expands infinitely. So it's not possible for us to understand on this level. I don't think because I think we really would just. Right. So that makes perfect sense. But I still want to know. I mean, so I know, don't you want to know? I think, I mean, I think you can kind of get an idea. But I think if you truly comprehended it, it would never know because it's infinite.

6:10 So you can't know the end of something if there's no end. You can't encapsulate it if there's no capsule. Well, it's that there's an easy way to wrap your mind around the fact that you can't wrap your mind around it. All you need to think about is the fact that space apparently is infinite. So what does that mean? How is it possible for something to be infinite? Right. Like, how do you wrap your mind around that? That's the infinite that is constantly building and increasing and growing more. But growing to what? What is on the outside of the infinite? That's the thing. That's the thing. If you try to figure it out, you're going to go nuts. That's the thing. And then if you were able to get all that information, then you definitely go nuts. I think.

6:51 Yeah, that's true. I mean, you hear about people that just get into these frantic like, you know, and that is my theory. That is why our brains are developed to become a filter. It's specifically so we don't overwhelm ourselves with the grandeur of it all because we do have all the answers. We are the answers. We just filter it all out so we can actually cope in the 3D world. Yeah. Yeah. It's like if our whole collective consciousness was one cell in our body and then compared our one body to all of the multiple galaxies and universes. Right. So what if we were just one cell in a giant's body? I mean, that's possible. Yeah, funky looking giant. That's true.

7:33 It can't say, don't hurt yourself. Well, things can't do my best not to hurt myself, although it's easy to do these days. Oh my gosh. But no, when you think about these kinds of things, it stretches your mind. It really does. It really does. And then I was just thinking more and more about music and music being the language that you need to solve. And it is. It's the math and it's the vibrations put together in certain combinations. You can actually really physically feel it, whether it's like going down 10 years of the boom, like the bass, you know, or like we felt in the symphony. Like you hear some of those really high violin bows and I would like literally feel it go through my body.

8:13 Yeah. You know, and it's amazing. It's a wonderful feeling. Yeah, nobody is absolutely. So was that the one download? I mean, that was it. You know, I see I told you it wasn't like that. No, that was a big download. No, I just thought you had several. So it was mainly telling me to stop constantly searching because I don't really want to find it or to find out that I can't find it. Right. Right. So it's like live in the information that you have. And then once you get that, once you understand that, then you'll receive more. And then once you understand that, then you'll receive more. But if you're constantly looking, constantly looking ahead, you're never going to really understand what's in front of you because you're just trying to skip over or you're trying to jump over everything to that next level.

8:57 I mean, at the end of the day, it goes right to what we've always talked about. The importance of being present in the present moment. So you get, you know, you experience the present moment in its entirety and its fullness, the most of you that you can. And then the little by little you'll get, you'll be given more. And there's so many lessons in the present that we just don't even look at. Absolutely. So many miracles, so many synchronicities. So what does that mean for the world that we're living in right now? Because it's not just our bigger reality, but also the world we're living in is the little microcosm of the overall, right? Yes, I think so. And I think, you know, who was it that some astronaut that went to the moon and that you see the memes on Facebook?

9:40 You know, everything that we know is a lie. And because we're so small and such a little bit of nothing. I think that was James T. Kirk. I mean, it might have been because you did do the like the space thing, right? You did, you did, yeah. But I think that it's, I don't agree with that. Because right now it is the full extent of our experience. So that is something, especially if we are awakening and growing and becoming bigger and more and expanding and increasing. This is something. Well, I think that person was talking about the fact that the competition, the, the separation, all that stuff, that's a lie. You know, that the fact that we are all just one, when you see the world from above, all of a sudden it hits home that, oh my gosh, this is, we're insignificant in the grand scheme of things.

10:29 Right. You know, what is the grand scheme of things? That's the center of the universe. That's what we're trying. That's what we're always wondering. What is the grand scheme of things? Well, well, Kat now has a message for you, Karen. He says you just described peace, Karen. Oh. So, yeah. Nice. That's a good cat. And he has to read the messages because I don't have a glass or my contacts. I'm like, I see some little fuzzy things there popping up from time to time. My goodness, this is a comment. And I would say, Kat would know because she is a master hypnotist. She is. And you need to see that. She's not hypnotist. She's a hypnotist. Thank you. Yes. Hypnotherapist. And she knows, yes. And she knows exactly how to find peace. She helps us to find peace. Thank you, Kat, for all you do. By the way, I need to see you very soon.

11:09 Yes. He needs to find some peace. But she would know. So. Yeah. All right. So, back to the topic at hand, the world in the shape that is in. I know that you know that I've been going through some challenges right now. But that's not what I want to talk about because no one wants to know about that. What I do want to talk about is the distraction that is being done out there. And it's something we've wanted to know for a very long time. But now here's something that they're giving us a little crumbs about, right? Yeah. Look at this UFO here. Look at that UAP here. Look at this possible sighting here. And like, what are you thinking about all this disclosure that's been coming out these days? Oh, I think they're making such a big deal out of it. Yeah.

11:50 I think just the, it is what I mean, obviously, obviously we're not alone. Yeah. But they haven't, like, released our videos that, you know, are similar to things they've released before. There's not something that says this is an alien. There's what they look like. There's what they're here for. This is why they're here. This is who we've been talking to. Well, what if we don't know? What if they don't have that specific information? What if they have the ships and all that stuff? Yeah. Well, I mean, if someone, I guess you would you call them someone's technology was strong enough to advance enough to bring them here. I mean, how are we going to, you know, like what they run out and they, you know, will change like, what's going to happen?

12:32 This is going to crash. You know what I mean? Well, I think that there's a, there's a difference of opinion here because in the 3D world, UFOs or, or UAPs are the crafts and the right where in our space, we talked to how many people that say it's actually much more than that. And interdimensional. Right. And they, they actually are disclosing themselves individually. So then if they are like that, then how would we have any, you know, any one of them captured? Well, I mean, from what I've heard from whistleblowers or people are talking about this, apparently things that people, people from people that know, we apparently do have recovered artifacts and spacecraft or whatever kind of craft and bodies that were recovered from crash sites.

13:27 So if that is the case, there's got to be some sort of mixture of the two. How do we even know how to preserve those bodies? Who says they're preserved? Well, I mean, it's, unless they're fresh. You know, because you talk about like Roswell like these things that happened, you know, decades ago. Well, I think you're on to something because my thought, so I read a book a while back called Flatland. It was fascinating book. It's a fiction, but it was really cool because it talked about the different dimensions. And there's the whole character, the main character, lived in a two-dimensional world. That's why it was called Flatland. But then all of a sudden, somehow, I forgot how I got to pick up that book again.

14:07 It was really good. I think a pencil came in or something like that, like a three-dimensional something, like intruded into the two-dimensional reality that he was living in. And then suddenly it opened up this entire new dimension of reality to him. But a reality that he had no idea, he could not wrap his mind around until it presented itself. So these things are interdimensional beings. How is it possible for something for us to really, on three-deak way, understand what they are? Or catch one, or like, you know.

14:49 Yeah. So Cat now says they aren't going to dump everything on us at once. Most people can't handle it. Who says? What can we be? So the people who can't handle it are the people who are, maybe super religious and are worried that they are, because that's what they're talking about. Like, maybe these are demons. We've been fed this, like, the whole, like, scary aliens, you know. For a long time, right? For a long time. I listen to a podcast that's fascinating. It's called "Light Sound and Frequency," I believe it is. And it is a podcast that's hosted by two Hollywood producers. And the whole concept of the podcast is talking about how disclosure or people in power have used Hollywood to little by little drip information for us for eventual disclosure.

15:38 You know, I've heard that kind of theory also, but is it like the good aliens of the bad aliens? How do vibration, Cathy says. So anyway. So, but they take each one of the tickets, separate show. I see in other comments. Here once I get to the second, but I'm going to finish my point. They take a different, like, each episode is a different movie. And they give the backstory of who approached who. And I mean, they were, they produce a show called "Dark Skies." And so they were actually approached by the, someone's the secretary, the Navy or something like that, telling them they got the scripted postcard saying you're too close to the truth.

16:20 I mean, all these kinds of, like, really cool, like, whoa stuff, right? But, all right. So, oh, how do you willing, here we go. Focus life force energy. Oh, boy, we have a lot to talk about. How do you willing, Karen? I'd love to hear your conversations off the podcast, Monica. Yeah, you are. I don't know if people are ready to talk about people not being ready for that or something. Right. That's a whole different type of disclosure. Hi, Monica. It's nice to see you. Thanks for joining us today. And yeah, so it's love to focus life force energy, Monica, who works at Focus Life Force Energy. We just had a second interview with them.

17:01 We'll get to talk to you a lot more about this because we've got some really cool stuff to just get out. And we just have a meeting where you dialed it up. I did. I did dial it up. And we have a lot to talk about. That's coming up in another and a future episode. The stuff that they're doing is really cool. If you've not experienced Focus Life Energy, we've got, we're going to have the link for you to check out because it's going to give you a free trial. It is going to be, it is life changing. So definitely, definitely stay tuned for that. But back to disclosure. Yes. So, do you believe that? I do believe it. Yes. So, is it like the communion aliens or is it like the closing counters because those things they didn't seem bad. They're holding the kids hands at the end.

17:42 So communion was written by Whitley Streiber, who was a science fiction author. He actually wrote The Hunger and Wolfen and all these different Hollywood movies. And he apparently was hypnotized. And a lot of his memories came out of him being abducted and things like that. Well, they talk about Whitley Streiber on the show. And they talk about the fact that there could have been a point in time when these beings, Whitley Streiber calls them visitors, doesn't call them alien, they call them visitors, were trying to understand us a little bit better. And that's where a lot of that stuff was coming from. But imagine, I saw something from Neil deGrasse Tyson earlier today, where when aliens actually reach out and we make first contact, we're going to have no idea how to communicate with him.

18:31 I know. To the point of like Rocky. Well, I love that movie. Oh, I love that book. But even so, so like granular as, you know, they probably don't shake hands. Right. Who knows if waving high to them could be an offensive gesture to them, right? We have no idea. So maybe what they were doing back in Whitley Streiber days to them is a perfectly natural way of saying hi. What? What? What's awesome. Super traumatic. Who knows? Oh, my gosh. We have no idea. An invasive high there. We maybe they're like dogs and they say hello by sniffing others butts. Right? Who knows? Nobody knows.

19:12 It just doesn't seem advanced. Sniffing butts? No, I guess it doesn't, but you know, maybe they don't sniff butts. Maybe they wiggle their ears at you or something. I think I actually did. I don't think they have ears. At least not in the picture that I saw with this stupid book. But apparently there's multiple types of aliens too. You know, and I always thought about like the scary ones like alien, like those movies. And it's like this thing with a teeth. But they're like traveling around on these ships and they don't really have fingers. So how do I, you know, oh, the alien dude has fingers. You do? Yeah, yeah. But like that could like turn dials or whatever. Yeah, they got fully flexing. Because some of them don't. I'm like, how do they steer their ship?

19:52 Must they do it all mentally? But those ones just want to eat this. So I don't feel like they would be that, you know, mentally. They also talk about the fact that there is a there was a misinformation campaign specifically to make us afraid of these things because remember at the end of the day, right? Control is all about fear. And if we fear them, the visitors, it's a lot easier to control. It's a lot easier to control the narrative when they do say hello, right? So they talk a lot about that on the show about the fact that it is meant to be a fear campaign. So that mean there's a whole thing project blue sky project blue beam. I think it's called blue beam.

20:32 That's going to be supposedly it's going to be a fake a false flag operation where they fake an alien invasion. Oh, geez. Yeah, to make us even more afraid of it. It's all out there. If you look it up, look up that project, I think it's project, project, project blue beam, something like that. But it's out there. It's all out there. God. Yeah. We already, we have enough to fear already. I know. Without going really further than outside sometimes. I know. Wow. Yeah. That's a perfect transition. And to the next thing I want to talk about, oh, wait, Kat says I agree with. The missing formation campaign fear is a fierce weapon that's used daily on us.

21:13 Yes, daily. I would say even hourly, you can't go on social media right now or on the newscast. In fact, newscasts, I used to work for a newscast. I cut my teeth in the newscast. I work for one of the largest newscasts in the country. And I can tell you the if it bleeds it leads mentality is 100% the case. Fear sells. Yeah. Fear sells. If they can keep us, fear sells, first of all, second of all, fear keeps us divided and keeps us controlled. And now we're being taught to fear each other. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah, absolutely. So one of the things that I wanted to talk about today.

21:53 So I'm glad we're making the transition in. And I'm going to continue to talk about visitors later on. All day long today, I've been thinking, what should I disclose today? And should I talk about the challenges I'm having? Should we talk? Should we drop the facade and talk about this is what we think about what's going on? Or should we still keep it general? Right? And I've opted to keep it so much general in as much as the fact that that's the wrong focus. The focus shouldn't be on the outrage. The concern except, outrage is perfectly acceptable at a certain point.

22:37 But the most important thing to focus on is in supporting each other, is in focusing on what we can do. We can't control world events. We can't control governments. We can't control disclosure. We can't control any of that stuff. The only thing that we can control is our reaction to all that stuff. And sometimes it's extremely difficult to control that because of all the stimuli that's being thrown at us constantly, bombarded on a daily basis to cast point. So this is what I'm thinking, well, then how do you handle it?

23:19 I have a thought, but I'm curious to hear what your says. Well, you know, I'm going to go back to what I always go back to. Love. It's all about love. It's a really difficult conversation with a loved one last night. And it's kind of almost like the snowball effect for me, like the love. And as I was talking to this person, I'm like, you know, you can't let these things upset you. You are exactly who you're supposed to be. And I started really kind of getting into that. And it was just like, you are, you know, you're beautiful, you're smart, you're perfect on the inside out. And I'm like, you are love. And we are all love. And the more I said that the more like I started sounding like a freak, I'm like, oh my God, you're just your love.

24:02 But it's true. Oh, yeah, I mean, that was right. I'm like, woo, you're healed now. But it like overwhelmed me. And it's such an intense feeling. And I can't say this like this tremendous joy because sometimes it is, but sometimes it's just this tremendous fullness. It's like that vibrational energy, that feeling of completion or something. And when we feel that, when we allow ourselves to feel that and allow that feeling to build and build and build them, we can't really focus on things that aren't love. And for me, that's what's going to do it. Yeah. Cat. Yes, focusing on what we are heating or not wanting to give more power to that very thing.

24:46 And yes, Karen, love is all we need. It reminds me of a song. Yes, love is all we need. Sometimes, however, love is hard to combine because there's so much fear and fear that's out there. So I would take the love thought even further and say, yes, you have to have love, but you also have to have love surrounding you as well. So in these times, when you find things are being are difficult, whatever reason, finding solace in a community that all shares their support for you, the shares are love for you and you can give back the love to them.

25:31 I think that, but in the Bible says, when two or more are gathered in my name, I am there, right? I being love, I think. So the more that you can be in community, the more that you perhaps might be able to get through some of these hardships. And I absolutely agree with you. And that is a really great way to look at it, a great step to take. But if you can unwrap the layers of the onion, unwrap the ugliness, unwrap the fear to find that love within yourself, so you are realizing it's there. It's like this, it's like this orb that surrounds us that's within us. You don't have to find it for someone else.

26:13 And that's hard. And it is easier to go sometimes into a community where that is reflected to you, but you have to learn, we have to learn how to identify it within ourselves and within our surroundings without someone else because then that someone else can take the love away and you start back in square one. 100% that I agree with you completely. That is what I strive for, I strive to find that all we need is inside, is within. How many gurus I've said that across the ages, all you need is within. Sometimes the within is a little run.

26:55 And so you need to find without to help you to find the within. Yeah, and that's what I'm saying. It's a really good step to take. But if you're always relying on other people, you're never really going to have that. Right. No, that's true. No, and I did not mean to imply that that is, you have to always rely on other people because when you know, you do need to find within yourself and there's no true happiness then when you find it inside yourself. Because then you can be the person that radiates love to somebody who needs that community. You become vegan. Yeah, something, we talked about this a few days ago that I was listening to another another podcast and they had this Buddhist Rinpoche on, in Rinpoche is a very wise leader in Buddhism.

27:52 And he was saying, because at the end of your were, it was Ku Klaksen, who I love. If you haven't read the magic of surrender, I strongly encourage you to read it. It's a beautiful book. But he was interviewing this Buddhist monk and talking a lot of similar things. And the Buddhist monk said that it's those people that are treating you the worst, that command or demand your compassion more. Yeah. And it's super difficult to do it. It's a hard, hard world, right? But he said that, he said that if you look at it from the fact that, and Buddhists believe that when someone is mean or hurtful or a bully or whatever, it's for some reason hurting you, it's because they are, they see it as a sickness, illness.

28:49 And so when you provide, when you see it from the point of view that they are sick, they need your compassion because they're sick, they can't control it. And that's a different way of looking at it, where you could perhaps defuse the situation within yourself. Because then when you answer with compassion, sometimes it takes them back. And then they draw that behavior sometimes, right? But, can't respond. And Karen, yes, why Karen, yes, how about Will, yes, where's the cat, come on. Karen, yes, it starts with ourselves first. First physics, we become the magnet for love, it becomes contagious that way. Yes, you're 100% right? But, you know, I like to be right, it was the one's two cats.

29:32 Just write something. Yeah, no, it is important, super important to find it with yourself. But it is hard. And we've talked about it before because people have a specific idea of what love is and what love should look like. Because we're fed that there are only a few types of love, you know, relationships between like spouses or parents or siblings or friends. And there's, what, no, I'm just, you reminded me of something else I'm going to, yeah. And so when we don't have those, we don't think about other things like the love of the way, the water feels when you take a shower or when you take them by the pudding that I love how that feels on my mouth. You know, those are little, little tiny nuggets of joy and love that if you can just collect all of those, collect all of those little moments of love, those are type of love because you're loving the experience of life.

30:22 Definitely speaking of love. Cat says, I love you, well, you are the dude. Yeah. Thank you, cat. I appreciate that. I appreciate the painter. Anyway, no, but you're right. It's the reason why I was smiling and as you were talking is because I'm full of resources now. There's another book I just finished. Look at you. I know. You're like a walking library. Robert Monroe, who is the modern, right, out of body experiences, the Monroe Institute, consciousness, research, he wrote a second book called Fargeries. His first book is Jury's Out of the Body, second book is Fargeries. It just finished that book. And in the book, he talks about the fact that love is way more than we ever think that it is.

31:06 In fact, what we feel love is in the three dimensional world is not actually love. It's a cake up a hand. It's actually a physical act. It's a 3D thing where love in its infinite definition, the actual definition of love is far beyond our physical capacity for us to understand. I believe it. So love is actually way more than all we need. It is everything that we are. Yeah. Apparently we are pure love and the pure embodiment, the expression of our body. Our cells, which is what Kud Blackson says in the Magica surrender, the best way to show love to others is to be 100% authentically you at all times.

32:00 Do not hold anything back. And when you try to be someone who you're not, you're essentially rejecting yourself and you're rejecting love for yourself. And you do it all the time. You do it so often. The time. On a daily basis. We hold things back because we don't want to hurt someone or because I'm afraid they're going to think about it and say something like this. So it's hard. Believe me. I'm not denying the fact that I have to say the stuff now. I don't even care. You hit to start an age as a woman and you're like, that's good. I'm saying the stuff. That's good. But if I say the stuff, I think I'll be beaten up. So I've been on a show. Wow. What are you going to say? Well, you know, so I posted, I mean, there's some stuff. There's some anger. I post. Well, I thought you meant like the loose stuff.

32:42 Well, it is loose stuff. Not loose stuff. So if I just stuff or outrageous stuff, I should say because like the group I joined earlier a couple days ago. Oh gosh, I don't want to get into two controversial topics. But you know, the fact that people have to have love and respect for everybody else. It doesn't matter what sex they are. And the fact that some people aren't having that level of respect for a different sex, really, it really makes me angry. And if I were to completely say it to whoever, it could cause some conflicts. At the end of the day, I kind of welcome the conflict because my truth is my truth.

33:26 And I'm going to have to say it. But when you're trying to keep the peace, it's difficult to just blow it out. Like someone you know right now, who's super kind and loving whatever, but yet has a very strange. So I think we're not going to teach anybody to be more loving by using words. I completely agree. I think it's got to be your actions. It's got to be what you model and what you show. And that's the best you can do is to show small what love looks like. Right. I mean, you know, words help and stuff. Some people need some words now, but I know the people you're talking about, trust me.

34:07 And telling someone that they're wrong or that, you know, they're so I would kind of isn't ever going to go well. Right. So rather than do that, what I'm trying to do when I'm focusing on is instead turning to the person that is being affected and say, you have someone here in your corner. No. I'm supporting you and focus on that side of things versus the other side of things. I'm hoping that will make a difference. That's all we can do. Let's try. We've me on the mandor all over the place. I know. We were just going to pop on for like 10 minutes. Yeah. I feel like it's more than 10 minutes. I can't see. I have my glasses on.

34:48 It's been 34 minutes. Holy. That's a lot more than 10 minutes. Yeah. 34 minutes. Right. So we started talking about your downloads at the symphony and how everything is way bigger than we can imagine. So don't try. Right. Well, no, I'm not saying don't try, but don't get frustrated. Don't get frustrated. It's just going to be even more frustrating. And then if you do figure it out. Well, how many times have we found a show that it's we started out this path trying to find the answers and then now find that the joy is actually in the questions. Yeah. Right. So just keep asking questions. So cat has something else to say showing up is 80% of life and compassion goes a long way. Yes, it does.

35:28 Yeah. And I would say showing up even when you don't want to is what makes a difference. And having compassion for yourself when you flip that guy off in traffic. Because we all do it now. I kind of do it below the dashboard though because I want the road rage. Right. Right. Right. So we started with that. Those questions. We moved into disclosure. We talked about UFOs and the AEPs and what they are and who they might all that kind of stuff. And then we've ended with the world and how to find love within yourself so that you can deal with all the stuff that is the energies are rough.

36:12 They can be rough. Right. Energy is a rough these days. They are cats as double yes. Yes, double, double triple quadruple yes cat. The energies are hard core these days. And it's by design. We are moving into a whole different age and everyone said this was going to be a really energetically very challenging. Right. Yeah. So we're in it. We're in it now in a big way. So that's why I'm saying sometimes you need to recount to people. And so I this is me formally saying to all of you who are watching or listening to this. If you need to reach out, we are here. We would love to have you become part of our community. We would love to have a place where we all talk and support each other and share stories and help each other get through these stuff.

37:01 The stuff, these challenging energies that are all around us right now because it's only going to get worse before it gets better folks. I hate to be the better. But it will get better for sure. But it's going to be a rough ride before it gets better. So if you need us, please, please reach out. Don't hesitate. We're going to do something to make it easy for you guys to do direct links in our show notes for where you can go directly to leave us a voicemail, things like that. We'd love to hear your voice. We'd love to talk to you on these lives. Speaking of which next week, next week, next month, we have a special life. I want to announce, yeah, we're having a psychic as a special guest.

37:41 And she's going to answer your questions. So if you have questions for psychic, you have the questions that you've always had that you wanted to ask someone who is uniquely in tune with universes, the universal energies and could potentially give you some answers. Next, second Tuesday of the month in June, I believe that's June 9th. That is one we're going to have her on. And I've looked her up and she is astounding. You might have even heard of her before. I don't want to mention who it is. But definitely if you have questions, please send them our way, email, there's a contact us form on the website. You can leave comments on Facebook or YouTube or wherever you're finding us.

38:25 We're going to compile a list for this psychic so that next Tuesday, next Tuesday, next first Tuesday of the month, we'll get your questions answered in four Tuesdays from today. Yes, yeah, we know. Four Tuesdays from today. Yeah. I'm trying to keep in general, right? Because if it's very specific about your particular problem, like is my sister-in-law cheating with my husband, right? That's probably not going to be beneficial for anyone. Except if you want to ask something like is Karen going to win the lottery, that would be okay. I think I foresee a question from Karen coming up.

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