Enlightened Until Someone Triggers You

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My name is Will and I'm Karen and unlike Moldor and Scully, we've talked to people deeply

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entrenched in the spiritual and metaphysical world.

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We've thrown ourselves into weird and wonderful experiences.

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I even joined a Covenant witch's and wait, you joined a Covenant?

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Yep, all in the interest of fighting something that will prove that there's something beyond

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this physical, three-dimensional world we all live in.

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This is the Skeptic Metaphysicians.

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Hey there, welcome back to the Skeptic Metaphysicians live, the show where we can prove that you

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don't have to do metaphysics without wearing uniforms.

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What?

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I'm glad that you got the memo.

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You wore the uniform.

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Oh!

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The requisite uniform for the Skeptic Metaphysicians today.

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It was red day.

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It was red day.

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It was red day.

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It was red day.

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I'm excited to be here with you today, Karen.

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I'm excited to be here with you today.

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Are you?

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Today and every day.

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And every day.

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I'm excited to be here with you.

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We are especially excited to be here with you.

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The question is, will you be here with us?

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That's the big question.

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Today we're going to be talking a lot about ego and shadow work and enlightenment.

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And all kinds of things.

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So, if you have any questions by all means, please don't hesitate to put those questions in

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the chat.

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We'll be happy to answer any questions that you have for us.

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We may or may not be right, but we will answer.

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We will.

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Some sort of answer.

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There will be an answer.

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Yeah, that is for sure.

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Now, I need to find, because we're trying out a new system that we're no longer in a

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typical place.

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We have a different streamer that we're trying out today.

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And we want to welcome those of you watching us on Substack.

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It's nice to be connected with you.

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I know we are very fancy, but we're trying a new system.

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So please bear with us as we work out the kinks and the bugs and all those things, because

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we're bound to have a hook up.

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I'm getting my workout into today.

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Thank God.

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I think you're working out.

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You said we're working out.

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Pickups and bugs.

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Yes.

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And she says, I have a bad joke.

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Well, you do.

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On top of that, we've also experiencing some very challenging internet connections today.

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I had an interview earlier with Carrie Helmingberg from the reality TV.

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She is a creator of medicine woman and the Soul Nectar Show.

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And we had to end it halfway, because my internet just dropped out.

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So if we disappear all of a sudden, you know why?

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It's not that we don't love you.

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We do.

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It's just our internet doesn't.

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All right.

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So I want to first put this up here so that you know what you're watching, because I know

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you might have a lot of question marks about what it is you're watching.

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If you just kind of stumbled on us, we are the skeptic musicians live.

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We do this every second Tuesday of the month at 6 p.m. Eastern time.

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We love getting audience questions and comments.

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So if you are out there and you want to say hello, we would love to hear from you.

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Meanwhile, in case you didn't know who we were, we are well, Karen and Will.

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In opposite seats today.

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So we are the host of the skeptic musicians.

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If you don't know us, you should definitely look us up on your favorite podcasting platform.

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And before we go any further, I need to double check to make sure that we are actually going

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live.

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Then I'm not just talking to myself because I'm here.

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I mean, talking to me.

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Yes.

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Well, there's no one more important to speak to.

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But we wouldn't be here.

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It would be somewhere else.

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Let me see if I can't find it where we would be.

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Anyway, Karen, tell me about your day.

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It was a beautiful day today.

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It was.

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I got to be healthy and drive to work in the sunshine and my little space heaters working

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at the office.

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So even though it's summer and 80 whatever degrees, I still had it on because it's the tundra

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in there.

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Really?

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Got to have a few meetings, interactive people, which is great because sometimes I'm just sitting

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there in front of my little computer and it gets lonely.

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So it's a good day.

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Well, I'm glad you had a good day.

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I should probably get rid of our names because right now everybody knows who we are.

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But I think that that was all right.

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Yes.

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That was all right.

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So if you have any questions, please feel free to put them in the chat and we will add them

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to the stream as we go.

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Sorry, we need to be.

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We are.

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Yeah.

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You can see it.

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We're a little bit of a delay, but we're good.

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So Karen, I specifically want to talk today about ego.

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Before we sat down to talk, I go live.

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You asked me how my day was today and I said, you did.

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And that is because some big bosses are in the office this week and I had a one-on-one

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with the big, big boss today.

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And I, well, I didn't really like how the conversation went.

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She's lovely.

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I just seem to be stuck.

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So to give some context, a little while ago, I started this job specifically about 14 years

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ago.

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And I had a lot of responsibilities a lot of responsibilities.

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And I loved it.

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Over time things have changed and now we're in a really weird place.

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We've had to reorganize about four times and every time it's been kind of a kick into

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teeth.

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And every time you turn around, there's another kick into teeth.

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And I've really leaned into my spiritual practice to keep myself in a good headspace.

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And for the most part, I do well, except when I talk to people in the office.

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For some reason.

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And it's usually when it's someone in leadership position in the office, I find myself falling

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back into victim mode.

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I fall myself.

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I see myself falling back into ego and I don't understand why.

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And it's just so easy for me to say, everything is going wonderfully.

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Thank you for asking.

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Well, I think you've got a little PTSD at that location because there has been a lot.

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You've gone through a lot of stuff.

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And it went from this big organization where you had a really active involvement to you.

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Yeah, I don't doubt it.

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I don't doubt that I have PTSD.

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But isn't the spiritual practice?

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The whole reason you're doing it is to get over things like PTSD, to rise beyond the physical

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ego needs, the responses, that need your responses that we have every once in a while, and somebody

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kind of frauds our way that way.

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Well, yes, but you have to realize it's happening because if you weren't in that situation,

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or someone was talking to you about work in the meetings, you wouldn't have realized

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that you had PTSD.

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Well, yes, but I didn't realize that I was acting from ego until it was over.

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The minute she walked out door my office, I went, "Oh, God, why did I do that?

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Why did I say that?

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Why did I continue down that path that serves nobody?

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Especially not me."

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Well, it's a familiar path.

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You know, if you spent most of your life living one way and then even the last ten years,

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you start changing things, you still have a few more years than that.

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Yeah, but you think you've gotten to a certain level.

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You've done all the practices and you've done all the interviews and you've met all the

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people.

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You do the breath-bred practices and meditations every single day.

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And you think you feel like you're in a good place and all of a sudden without you realizing

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it, you fall right back into ego without realizing it.

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I could not have fared worse, I don't think.

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I mean, I guess I could have.

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I could have gotten fired on the other spot, but it didn't.

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It was actually, it was a lovely conversation.

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It's just one that I'm sure she walked out of my office going, "Whoo, this guy is a victim.

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It's not a winner."

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I'm going to have to hear the details of that conversation.

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I don't know that there's really...

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They need to hear the details.

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I need to hear the details.

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So I guess the reason why I'm bringing it up, Karen, is because I'm sure there's a lot of

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people out there that feel the same way, that they've worked so hard to get to a certain

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level.

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They feel like they are, yes, they finally reach their enlightenment stage, only to find

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themselves all within just a flip of a switch right back into the 3D world, reacting in

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ways that are triggering and not from the perspective of everything is working for you, not against

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you.

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So, how would you counsel someone that came to you with that kind of question, that problem?

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Well, I think I would say it's kind of like working out your spirit.

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It's kind of like working out your body.

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I mean, back in the day, I would go to the gym sometimes two or three times a day and

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I was eating healthy and I was great shape, but if you stop that and you're starting eating

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the crap or whatever, you're going to gain the weight back.

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So just because you did it all right at one point doesn't mean you're not going to have

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a slip up if you stop.

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Are you not paying your attention to my weight?

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Nope.

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I feel attacked.

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Actually, I said my weight.

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I used to work out.

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That's why I have this nice tall table.

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Cover my belly.

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Yeah, it works very nicely, actually, to cover mine.

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Okay, so if you are out there, you're watching this or you're listening to this and you have

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gone through something similar and you have some words of wisdom, I would be more than

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welcoming of them as would I'm sure everyone else out there who is listening or watching

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this right now.

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So, go ahead and put your experience in the chat.

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We'd love to bring it up on camera and talk about it with you so that others can benefit

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from your wisdom as well.

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So, did you have an aha moment?

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I did, but the aha moment was a harm still stuck.

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And so do you know how to get unstuck?

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No, that's why I'm asking.

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Oh, well, are you asking?

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Yes.

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That's the whole reason I brought it up is because I ain't asking.

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And are you asking me?

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If you have the answer, I'd love to have it.

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I don't have the answer.

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I don't.

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I think the answer is different for everyone.

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I think that we all have, like we always say, we all are heading to the same direction taking

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different paths.

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So, something that's going to work for someone won't necessarily work for you.

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And I think the fact that you realize that this is happening is actually a big part of

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the answer.

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I agree.

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I'm sure that it is.

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I think that every time that you run into a wall.

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Yeah.

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You have an opportunity to look at it and go, why?

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And that's what I'm doing now right now on camera with a million of my closest friends.

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Or maybe you have the opportunity to say, is this really a wall?

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Well, it's so, I believe it's a wall that I keep hitting that I am forgetting I'm going

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to hit if I allow myself to act unconsciously again.

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So, I'm getting into a point where really my practice is about being present, it's being

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in the moment and being aware of what is happening inside every moment that I'm going through

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life and how I'm reacting to things and figuring out why and asking why am I reacting to them

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in this way?

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What is it that is triggering me, this experience in me?

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What is it?

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Why?

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And how can I make that not trigger?

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Well, Brent Lloyd has an interesting comment that I can barely read from here, you're closer

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so you got to read him.

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Fred says, sounds like you might have a belief that no longer serves you is still in place.

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Absolutely, Brett.

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I 100% believe that is the case.

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I'm going to second, I should probably put that up on screen so others can see it too.

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Yes, thank you.

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Brett, thanks so much for the comment.

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You're right.

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Because there is a belief that is inside that I, I'm not sure what it is, that's what I'm

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trying to figure out.

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What is it?

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What belief is there in me?

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I think it has to do with, like I said, ego, I think that it is a, I deserve better.

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I have worked so hard for this company and you're treating me poorly and I need to let

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you know.

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And I don't think, I honestly don't need to let anyone know.

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Okay, so then that's very much in the 3D and ego depending on which way it sounds to me,

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like ego, not just like the third, you know, our body's ego.

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For sure.

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For sure.

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So maybe you feel like your ego should learn the lesson and you're blaming your physical

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ego on that, but your spiritual one has not learned it yet.

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I would think.

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So it keeps putting you back into that same position.

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I would posit, it's the opposite.

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I believe that the spiritual part of me understands it intellectually, but when it, when it's confronted

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with a situation that's similar, it reacts in a way that is very much rooted in the 3D,

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in the physical, in the ego.

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It just reacts as opposed to me saying, but what's reacting?

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Your spirit or your ego?

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My ego.

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Right.

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So that's what I'm talking about.

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Okay.

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And I guess we're saying the same thing, just different languages.

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So for example, yesterday our daughter had a situation.

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It was a situation.

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It was a quite a situation.

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And Brett, thank you so much for the comment.

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Really appreciate it.

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And we needed to find a way to make it better for her as her parents.

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Right.

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So without going into too many details, our daughter had a...

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We don't need to go into any details, I don't think.

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No.

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How would you explain it?

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How would you talk about it then?

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I would just say there was a situation with a...

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The head player.

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And we needed to...

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Council.

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Her.

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Council her on that.

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Right.

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And so we were kind of stuck because it was a sticky situation.

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And so we tried to council her the best we could.

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And at the end of the day when we were lying in bed, it didn't sit right with us.

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And so I actually opened myself up and said, "How should I council her?

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What are the right words that she should use to respond to the situation?"

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And before I even almost finished that thought, I had the answer.

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And that was to come at it from love.

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So there you go.

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If you look at that situation and you look at this work situation and you think about

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that we're all kind of working on our spirituality in this space.

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Well, I mean, a lot of us are.

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And I think maybe you're expecting because you do get these downloads, these messages,

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or these...

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You make these connections quite frequently.

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I think you expect it all to be fixed.

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And when something isn't fixed, I don't know if fixed does not the right word.

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But you know what I'm trying to say.

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Yeah.

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I think you're right.

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I think I'm falling into the unconscious.

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On a day-to-day basis.

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As hard as I'm trying to be present in the moment, I take it for granted.

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And suddenly before I realize it, I'm no longer in the present.

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I'm more in the unconscious, like I was in this meeting earlier today.

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Well, I'm actually thinking that you're not giving yourself grace because of all of the

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steps and the changes that you've made and the growth that you've had and you're focusing

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on one area where you haven't quite made that growth yet.

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But then you're saying you could just purely hadn't even had the thought come out and already

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you're getting the message.

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Okay.

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Yeah.

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So let me clarify something.

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I do know I've made huge strides.

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I realize that.

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And there are areas of my life that are far, far improved.

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Where I'm getting frustrated is in the places that I really have worked the hardest in that

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I'm still running into a problem that is in my career.

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And I think you're right.

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PTSD has a lot to do with it.

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That I am being confronted with something that professionally hurts my ego and I respond

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from ego.

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Don't respond from love.

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And it's love for myself that I'm not responding from.

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Because the loving me after she walked out the door said all you need to do was say I'm grateful

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to have the job.

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I'm grateful to be able to provide for my family.

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I'm grateful that we were able to have our insurance so we could pay for some pretty hefty

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medical issues that we were had of late.

333
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I'm very grateful that I'm one of those that isn't out there still looking for a job

334
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after the latest round of layoffs.

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I am.

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I'm very grateful.

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And yet I found myself saying, "Brrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr."

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It looked to be funny when I did that, but I can't imagine why.

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So you know, you just have to still work hard that maybe worked differently.

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You know what I think I'm going to try adjusting off.

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I'm going to try just off the Gary and Christie's manifestation event.

342
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Oh.

343
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I think that might be helpful.

344
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That's a good idea.

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That was a very good event for me.

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It was very good.

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So.

348
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All right.

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Anyway, that's really what I wanted to talk about.

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At the end of the day, what I want you to get from this is that if you feel in the same

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place you are in the going through the same things that I am going through, like what

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Karen said, give yourself grace.

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And lose your patience with yourself because after all we're all just human.

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At the end of the day, we're here to experience the highs and the lows.

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And we can't all be on a constant high all the time because how boring would that be?

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Oh, yeah.

357
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I don't know.

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That would be so bad.

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And yes, Will is professing that he is human.

360
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No, I don't think you can prove that.

361
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I'm sorry.

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I have to rewind the tape and see if I...

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I don't think I ever said I was human.

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But and yet you are.

365
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You are.

366
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You got the poke test.

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Yeah.

368
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Yeah.

369
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All right.

370
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So, so how about this?

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Any miracles today?

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Aside from the 333s and things like that, nothing of the...

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I mean, the miracle is that we woke up.

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The begin with.

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Well, that's true.

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That's the first miracle that we woke up.

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Second miracles, I woke up and you were still there.

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That was a big miracle.

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And another miracle was that the girl had no weird confrontations or anything happen.

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That's true.

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What about with you?

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See, now we talked about taking little coincidences that you see in life and thinking of them

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as miracles.

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So, and it's kind of funny because I was looking for a pen all over earlier, or just a few

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minutes ago.

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This has to do with a pen.

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And I was in a meeting and I had all these paperwork and I had to sit with this lady

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and kind of show her all the stuff that I looked at for her.

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And I'm like, "I need a pen."

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And she's like, "I need a pen too."

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And she opened up her drawer and there was the pen.

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Nothing else in the drawer.

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She's like, "I wonder what's in this drawer because she hasn't even moved into the office

394
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yet."

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And there was the pen.

396
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Wow.

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That's what a little miracle.

398
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Yeah, it was kind of weird because she hasn't moved in yet.

399
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So, just a computer and a pen.

400
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But that's been happening to you a lot lately.

401
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A lot, yeah.

402
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Like finding paperclips when you need them without realizing them.

403
00:20:27,960 --> 00:20:29,480
Yes, that was very weird.

404
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I apparently office supplies are my connection to God.

405
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Yes.

406
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So, the paperclips story was, this is, it's a little personal talking about undergarments,

407
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but so it's a little undergarment among friends.

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I know, right.

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If you're a woman and you like to wear racer back t-shirts or the ones that went to the

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back kind of goes like this, it doesn't work with a regular bra.

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Thank you for cracking right.

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And most people would either put on a strapless bra or get one that crosses in the back.

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I, however, am too lazy to be smart that way.

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So, I've learned that you can grab a paperclip and you just quickly stick it through one strap

415
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and slide the other one on it and voila, it works perfectly well.

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So, I was coming up to the office to get a paperclip and I come up to the stairs and I had

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just swept in there.

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It was all nice and clean.

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And so, I come into the office and I grab a paperclip and I'm sticking it in my shirt.

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And for whatever reason, it's just not sticking.

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And I'm like, what the heck?

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And right then, starting to go back downstairs, right then on the floor, I look and there's

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a paperclip on the stairs as I pull the paperclip out of from under my shirt and it's all bent

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up.

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So, the paperclip was not there when I came up the stairs.

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And how, you know, like the universe knew I was going to need this paperclip.

427
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Before I knew, I was going to need the paperclip.

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So, put it right there.

429
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I pulled the thing out.

430
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I'm like, oh my gosh, hey, look at that.

431
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It's so beautiful.

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I think I just need to be more present because it's not happening to me anymore.

433
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You know, I'm in a weird place.

434
00:22:00,920 --> 00:22:01,920
Well, it's happening.

435
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You're just not seeing it.

436
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That's exactly what I'm saying.

437
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And that's the stuff.

438
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This happens to us all the time.

439
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And sometimes you just, we take it for granted or you just write it off or what a coincidence

440
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or whatever.

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But if you think about it, it's more than that.

442
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And sometimes it's a paperclip, sometimes, you know, you don't even notice.

443
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Sometimes it's like the milk creamer, you know, in the hallway.

444
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I mean, there's little things that can happen all the time and you just kind of notice.

445
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Yeah.

446
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And I think actually, the story is like that.

447
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Help me to reframe.

448
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Oh, yeah.

449
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Remind me of things like that.

450
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So, if you are watching this right now, you have a story that you want to share about.

451
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Some miracle that happened to you that you noticed.

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Share with us because it will help me.

453
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So it's all about me, I draw.

454
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Someone say something about that.

455
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Yeah, it's not about me.

456
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It's.

457
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But, so the meditations that you have been having of late, I've seen you meditating every

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morning.

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You've come home from taking our kid to the school.

460
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I come down from getting ready and you're already downstairs meditating.

461
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How have those been for you?

462
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You know, it depends.

463
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Like, today was not very good because I was too focused on the issue that we had last night.

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I wonder what was going to happen.

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And that's the time that I should take the time and really connect.

466
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Right.

467
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You know, it's like when you need it the most, sometimes it's the hardest to get.

468
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No matter what you do, you just can't quiet the monkey mind that I'm trying to breathe

469
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in and I'm doing the guided meditation, which usually I just listen to music.

470
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But I just could not get out of my head.

471
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And I get frustrated, but I have to realize that's okay.

472
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For whatever reason, it wasn't meant to happen today.

473
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So when it does, it'll just be that much more impactful.

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Show it up.

475
00:23:46,560 --> 00:23:52,120
Well, that's the most important thing is showing up.

476
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Because your ego is trying to tell you every other reason why you shouldn't show up.

477
00:23:56,040 --> 00:23:57,480
Why you shouldn't do it.

478
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So I'm glad that you're doing it now again.

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Thank you.

480
00:24:00,720 --> 00:24:02,920
Now, there was a while that you were actually connecting.

481
00:24:02,920 --> 00:24:07,800
I was having some good connections and it wasn't that long ago.

482
00:24:07,800 --> 00:24:13,480
And it's the messages that you need to hear that are the ones that the downloads that

483
00:24:13,480 --> 00:24:14,480
you get.

484
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I think it was maybe a month ago.

485
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We were kind of talking about what's our purpose of being here.

486
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Why are we here?

487
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And we have some similar views.

488
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We have some different views.

489
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And what came into me was like our spirit is like a beautiful diamond.

490
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And yes, we have all this knowledge.

491
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We have everything, but we come here just to create one more facet.

492
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Every time we come back, we create another facet and what that does is we don't get back

493
00:24:36,600 --> 00:24:37,600
into that diamond.

494
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It sparkles even brighter and glows even more and it's even more beautiful.

495
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Let me feel it.

496
00:24:42,920 --> 00:24:47,560
It's like what they say, the beauty of the diamond is in the flaws.

497
00:24:47,560 --> 00:24:48,560
Right?

498
00:24:48,560 --> 00:24:53,360
So therefore all the things are happening in life like my conversation with the big boss

499
00:24:53,360 --> 00:24:54,680
today.

500
00:24:54,680 --> 00:25:00,160
That just makes it better when I realize it and I.

501
00:25:00,160 --> 00:25:06,280
It's a reminder that as far as I've come, I still have a long way to go.

502
00:25:06,280 --> 00:25:11,160
So I am grateful for those reminders because otherwise I'd be going through life completely

503
00:25:11,160 --> 00:25:14,880
blind as I was five, six, seven years ago.

504
00:25:14,880 --> 00:25:17,240
And you were not happy.

505
00:25:17,240 --> 00:25:22,520
Even now you're like, oh, this kind of sucked at work today, which yeah, but I think you're

506
00:25:22,520 --> 00:25:26,720
able to just say, okay, that was just a moment and take whatever you need to learn from that

507
00:25:26,720 --> 00:25:29,080
moment and move on.

508
00:25:29,080 --> 00:25:35,000
Well, and I think also I'm not real happy with the way I look and the way I feel.

509
00:25:35,000 --> 00:25:41,760
I'm very heavy and I keep talking to myself about going to the gym and I have every intention

510
00:25:41,760 --> 00:25:44,000
of going to the gym.

511
00:25:44,000 --> 00:25:45,560
But I end up not going.

512
00:25:45,560 --> 00:25:47,360
So I need to figure out why that is.

513
00:25:47,360 --> 00:25:48,360
Oh, right.

514
00:25:48,360 --> 00:25:49,520
We love you back.

515
00:25:49,520 --> 00:25:51,760
Thank you so much for tuning in.

516
00:25:51,760 --> 00:25:52,760
Keep up the beautiful work.

517
00:25:52,760 --> 00:25:53,760
Stay well.

518
00:25:53,760 --> 00:25:54,760
We definitely will.

519
00:25:54,760 --> 00:25:55,760
We will do our very best.

520
00:25:55,760 --> 00:26:01,880
You also, please keep up the beautiful work and stay well because you're doing really important

521
00:26:01,880 --> 00:26:02,880
work in the world.

522
00:26:02,880 --> 00:26:04,280
So thank you for that.

523
00:26:04,280 --> 00:26:09,560
But anyway, so I'm not feeling all very, very good about myself.

524
00:26:09,560 --> 00:26:14,400
So I went out and I found someone who's going to talk to us on the show soon about Chigong.

525
00:26:14,400 --> 00:26:16,400
Oh, we haven't talked about that.

526
00:26:16,400 --> 00:26:17,400
We have not.

527
00:26:17,400 --> 00:26:18,400
Oh, good.

528
00:26:18,400 --> 00:26:19,400
Yeah.

529
00:26:19,400 --> 00:26:25,320
So Master Guru is going to come in and talk to us about Chigong and spiritual embodiment.

530
00:26:25,320 --> 00:26:29,680
Now, important is to get that energy flowing through your body.

531
00:26:29,680 --> 00:26:32,920
So I look forward to that because I really need it.

532
00:26:32,920 --> 00:26:39,840
I've never met Master Guru that I went to Dr. Gao in China for acupuncture.

533
00:26:39,840 --> 00:26:41,240
Something magical about those G words.

534
00:26:41,240 --> 00:26:42,240
I know.

535
00:26:42,240 --> 00:26:43,520
Those G names.

536
00:26:43,520 --> 00:26:47,840
But so you stay tuned for that episode that will be coming out here in the next several

537
00:26:47,840 --> 00:26:49,240
weeks.

538
00:26:49,240 --> 00:26:50,240
But it should be interesting.

539
00:26:50,240 --> 00:26:52,560
What I love for him to do, although I don't think we're going to be able to do it, is

540
00:26:52,560 --> 00:26:58,760
for him to actually show us, like show us the movements, you know, but I don't know

541
00:26:58,760 --> 00:26:59,960
it's a good possible one for Chigong.

542
00:26:59,960 --> 00:27:00,960
But we'll see.

543
00:27:00,960 --> 00:27:01,960
We'll see where I can do.

544
00:27:01,960 --> 00:27:08,480
If you happen to be in the hamper in the area, no one who's doing Chigong or Tai Chi, I would

545
00:27:08,480 --> 00:27:10,280
love to know because I used to do it.

546
00:27:10,280 --> 00:27:12,520
Now I forgot all the movements and I used to love it.

547
00:27:12,520 --> 00:27:15,800
So anyway, what else can I remember?

548
00:27:15,800 --> 00:27:16,800
What else you want to talk about?

549
00:27:16,800 --> 00:27:18,760
Well, I was thinking about this.

550
00:27:18,760 --> 00:27:24,640
You know, we've talked to so many different people and so many different modalities.

551
00:27:24,640 --> 00:27:29,440
And some of them have done work on us for us with us.

552
00:27:29,440 --> 00:27:34,040
There have ever been one that you were just like, holy cow.

553
00:27:34,040 --> 00:27:35,040
That was amazing.

554
00:27:35,040 --> 00:27:36,040
You could just go blown away.

555
00:27:36,040 --> 00:27:37,040
I mean, I know there have been.

556
00:27:37,040 --> 00:27:39,680
I'm totally putting you on spot to pick one right now.

557
00:27:39,680 --> 00:27:40,680
Now, let me go first.

558
00:27:40,680 --> 00:27:41,680
Yes, please.

559
00:27:41,680 --> 00:27:42,680
I can't go first.

560
00:27:42,680 --> 00:27:44,680
Do you know, can you read my mind?

561
00:27:44,680 --> 00:27:46,480
Do you know who I'm going to talk about?

562
00:27:46,480 --> 00:27:47,480
Breath of work?

563
00:27:47,480 --> 00:27:48,480
Nope.

564
00:27:48,480 --> 00:27:49,480
Oh, yes.

565
00:27:49,480 --> 00:27:50,480
The miracles.

566
00:27:50,480 --> 00:27:51,480
Miracles?

567
00:27:51,480 --> 00:27:52,480
Mm-hmm.

568
00:27:52,480 --> 00:27:55,480
Could be a name.

569
00:27:55,480 --> 00:27:56,480
Darn?

570
00:27:56,480 --> 00:27:57,480
Yes.

571
00:27:57,480 --> 00:28:00,280
I'm like, we've talked a lot about miracles.

572
00:28:00,280 --> 00:28:01,280
Darn Travedi.

573
00:28:01,280 --> 00:28:09,040
Darn Travedi says she's just a beautiful kind, kind woman who we interviewed for a while.

574
00:28:09,040 --> 00:28:11,720
She and her husband actually, she's a guru.

575
00:28:11,720 --> 00:28:13,920
Or two, right?

576
00:28:13,920 --> 00:28:16,800
And they do blessings for people.

577
00:28:16,800 --> 00:28:18,160
And it's become their life work.

578
00:28:18,160 --> 00:28:22,120
I think she's based out of Florida and he's from India.

579
00:28:22,120 --> 00:28:24,360
And so together, they do these blessings.

580
00:28:24,360 --> 00:28:25,680
And she's so kind.

581
00:28:25,680 --> 00:28:31,280
And at the time that we met, I was going through some pretty serious medical stuff.

582
00:28:31,280 --> 00:28:35,720
And so, you know, she said, you know, I want to give you a blessing.

583
00:28:35,720 --> 00:28:39,120
And just out of the generosity of her heart, you know, so I said, oh, thank you.

584
00:28:39,120 --> 00:28:40,120
You know, you don't have to do that.

585
00:28:40,120 --> 00:28:41,120
I really appreciate it.

586
00:28:41,120 --> 00:28:43,560
She said, well, I'm not going to do it now, but it'll happen within the next couple of

587
00:28:43,560 --> 00:28:44,560
days.

588
00:28:44,560 --> 00:28:49,040
Well, I didn't really think a whole lot of it because it wasn't like an in-person

589
00:28:49,040 --> 00:28:50,040
I'm doing this.

590
00:28:50,040 --> 00:28:51,560
It was just kind of like it's happening in a couple of days.

591
00:28:51,560 --> 00:28:52,560
I didn't know when.

592
00:28:52,560 --> 00:28:54,920
I kind of out of sight, out of mind.

593
00:28:54,920 --> 00:28:58,480
And then about a week later, I realized something.

594
00:28:58,480 --> 00:29:06,640
Now, for the last year and a half or so, I had been, I hurt myself in dancing.

595
00:29:06,640 --> 00:29:08,280
That's how old I am.

596
00:29:08,280 --> 00:29:10,680
I think it was the clogs I was wearing.

597
00:29:10,680 --> 00:29:14,600
I did like one of those days with my ankle, but I hurt my knee.

598
00:29:14,600 --> 00:29:19,200
And it was just kind of a constant reminder pain for like a year and a half.

599
00:29:19,200 --> 00:29:22,520
Not bad enough to go to the doctor for, well, I mean, maybe it probably was.

600
00:29:22,520 --> 00:29:25,120
But I didn't go to the doctor.

601
00:29:25,120 --> 00:29:31,600
So about a week after we met with her, maybe not even, maybe like three days, the pain was gone.

602
00:29:31,600 --> 00:29:33,400
And it's never come back.

603
00:29:33,400 --> 00:29:35,640
And it wasn't like, it's feeling a little better.

604
00:29:35,640 --> 00:29:36,640
It's feeling a little better.

605
00:29:36,640 --> 00:29:39,960
It's natural healing process because it's been a year and a half and it's been at a level

606
00:29:39,960 --> 00:29:42,440
like four out of five for a year and a half.

607
00:29:42,440 --> 00:29:44,480
And then also the one day was just gone.

608
00:29:44,480 --> 00:29:48,360
So I firmly believe, and I talked to her about that and thank her tremendously.

609
00:29:48,360 --> 00:29:49,760
I do believe it was the blessing.

610
00:29:49,760 --> 00:29:50,760
Yeah.

611
00:29:50,760 --> 00:29:51,760
Yeah.

612
00:29:51,760 --> 00:29:57,600
I think that I am too much of a gym and I have to be able to pick just one.

613
00:29:57,600 --> 00:29:59,120
Well, how about this?

614
00:29:59,120 --> 00:30:00,120
Select one for today.

615
00:30:00,120 --> 00:30:02,400
Does it have to be the one?

616
00:30:02,400 --> 00:30:03,960
It can just be a one.

617
00:30:03,960 --> 00:30:05,600
Well, I think so.

618
00:30:05,600 --> 00:30:06,600
I'm hungry.

619
00:30:06,600 --> 00:30:20,880
I think for me, the ones that really moved me the most are the ones that are stories that

620
00:30:20,880 --> 00:30:29,960
help me to learn things like Jonathan Robinson, who was on our live, live skeptic musicians

621
00:30:29,960 --> 00:30:31,960
live last month.

622
00:30:31,960 --> 00:30:35,280
Last month, yeah.

623
00:30:35,280 --> 00:30:40,400
His stories remind me of how to live.

624
00:30:40,400 --> 00:30:43,640
And I think those are the ones that really speak to me.

625
00:30:43,640 --> 00:30:49,080
People that help me to be present, the ones I really enjoy.

626
00:30:49,080 --> 00:30:50,720
I've tried the modalities.

627
00:30:50,720 --> 00:30:54,480
I'm incredibly difficult to read.

628
00:30:54,480 --> 00:30:56,680
Psychic readings are very difficult for me.

629
00:30:56,680 --> 00:31:01,320
They don't typically, they find me closed off.

630
00:31:01,320 --> 00:31:02,320
Not my choice.

631
00:31:02,320 --> 00:31:03,320
It just happens to be that way.

632
00:31:03,320 --> 00:31:04,320
I didn't know that.

633
00:31:04,320 --> 00:31:06,920
You never told me that before.

634
00:31:06,920 --> 00:31:07,920
Surprise.

635
00:31:07,920 --> 00:31:08,920
Yeah.

636
00:31:08,920 --> 00:31:10,920
So we have a message on.

637
00:31:10,920 --> 00:31:12,920
Do you want to challenge readers?

638
00:31:12,920 --> 00:31:16,600
No, it just makes me feel bad after a while.

639
00:31:16,600 --> 00:31:18,400
It's just like, I don't give them anything.

640
00:31:18,400 --> 00:31:19,640
I don't like doing that.

641
00:31:19,640 --> 00:31:24,920
But we do have a message on subs, tack and for some reason it's not showing up on my board

642
00:31:24,920 --> 00:31:25,920
here.

643
00:31:25,920 --> 00:31:26,920
So I can't put it up on screen.

644
00:31:26,920 --> 00:31:31,840
But from Casey, oh my god, my eyes are so bad.

645
00:31:31,840 --> 00:31:35,120
Casey, I'm sorry, B-O-U-R-R-E-T.

646
00:31:35,120 --> 00:31:38,360
I apologize for, I didn't know that's the way to pronounce it.

647
00:31:38,360 --> 00:31:39,440
So I don't want to pronounce it.

648
00:31:39,440 --> 00:31:41,400
But they say, love you guys.

649
00:31:41,400 --> 00:31:43,480
I think I've gotten through every podcast now.

650
00:31:43,480 --> 00:31:45,080
Some multiple times.

651
00:31:45,080 --> 00:31:48,440
You have both been exactly what I needed over the last one or two years when I navigate

652
00:31:48,440 --> 00:31:49,440
my own personal journey.

653
00:31:49,440 --> 00:31:51,040
You have shown me pathways.

654
00:31:51,040 --> 00:31:53,440
And modalities I never even knew existed.

655
00:31:53,440 --> 00:31:56,760
And it's been such a fun and amazing journey.

656
00:31:56,760 --> 00:31:58,160
Thank you in all caps.

657
00:31:58,160 --> 00:32:03,680
See, it's things like this that Casey's put on here that make me go, okay, I'm good.

658
00:32:03,680 --> 00:32:05,000
Yeah, and Brett.

659
00:32:05,000 --> 00:32:07,440
And of course, then Brett.

660
00:32:07,440 --> 00:32:08,440
But having.

661
00:32:08,440 --> 00:32:09,440
Gosh, I love that.

662
00:32:09,440 --> 00:32:14,760
Yeah, having these comments, that is what helps me to go, okay, okay, yeah, back on the

663
00:32:14,760 --> 00:32:15,760
path.

664
00:32:15,760 --> 00:32:18,000
We're doing good things for some people.

665
00:32:18,000 --> 00:32:23,960
And all we're doing is sharing our journey and inviting you to come along with us on our

666
00:32:23,960 --> 00:32:24,960
journey.

667
00:32:24,960 --> 00:32:25,960
And we're thrilled.

668
00:32:25,960 --> 00:32:28,240
We're honored to have you with us on our journey.

669
00:32:28,240 --> 00:32:30,200
So thank you for Casey for putting that on.

670
00:32:30,200 --> 00:32:31,200
Yeah, for the comments.

671
00:32:31,200 --> 00:32:34,960
And even for sharing that, that, just the energy that you took to write that, we get that.

672
00:32:34,960 --> 00:32:35,960
We feel that energy.

673
00:32:35,960 --> 00:32:37,640
And it just is so uplifting.

674
00:32:37,640 --> 00:32:38,640
It's incredible.

675
00:32:38,640 --> 00:32:39,960
That's the best thing about all of this.

676
00:32:39,960 --> 00:32:41,680
It's just connecting with the people and.

677
00:32:41,680 --> 00:32:42,680
No question.

678
00:32:42,680 --> 00:32:46,640
You know, we had an episode not long ago from Lisa Campion, I think it was last week

679
00:32:46,640 --> 00:32:49,680
that talked about psychic energy vampires.

680
00:32:49,680 --> 00:32:54,960
I think in a way we might be psychic energy vampires because we actually, we put in a good

681
00:32:54,960 --> 00:32:55,960
way.

682
00:32:55,960 --> 00:32:59,720
Like we feed from like the good feelings of people that leave us messages and things like

683
00:32:59,720 --> 00:33:00,720
that.

684
00:33:00,720 --> 00:33:01,720
I like to think we send energy back.

685
00:33:01,720 --> 00:33:02,720
Oh, I hope so too.

686
00:33:02,720 --> 00:33:06,760
But you know, if I call you Casey, caring you.

687
00:33:06,760 --> 00:33:08,160
Oh my God.

688
00:33:08,160 --> 00:33:09,960
You nailed the pronunciation.

689
00:33:09,960 --> 00:33:10,960
Yes.

690
00:33:10,960 --> 00:33:12,960
No, for a nice.

691
00:33:12,960 --> 00:33:13,960
Okay.

692
00:33:13,960 --> 00:33:18,680
I'm glad she was like, and you pick.

693
00:33:18,680 --> 00:33:19,680
Okay.

694
00:33:19,680 --> 00:33:20,680
I'm glad.

695
00:33:20,680 --> 00:33:21,680
Yes.

696
00:33:21,680 --> 00:33:22,680
No, but that case you thank you.

697
00:33:22,680 --> 00:33:25,080
You really, you've done wonders for my mood.

698
00:33:25,080 --> 00:33:26,400
So thank you so much for that comment.

699
00:33:26,400 --> 00:33:27,880
That's amazing.

700
00:33:27,880 --> 00:33:28,880
All right.

701
00:33:28,880 --> 00:33:34,720
So in terms of going back to your question about what really moves me, a lot of the conversations

702
00:33:34,720 --> 00:33:40,240
that we've had, it really depends on where I am.

703
00:33:40,240 --> 00:33:46,680
My mindset because sometimes we had a conversation with the gentleman who at the end of it, we

704
00:33:46,680 --> 00:33:48,360
always ask each other, so how was it for you?

705
00:33:48,360 --> 00:33:49,360
And you're like, oh, that was good.

706
00:33:49,360 --> 00:33:52,760
And for me, it was like, wow.

707
00:33:52,760 --> 00:33:57,560
And it wasn't anything major, but it was for some reason you, you connect with that energy

708
00:33:57,560 --> 00:33:59,560
with that, that message.

709
00:33:59,560 --> 00:34:03,640
And I can't explain why, but it just happens.

710
00:34:03,640 --> 00:34:05,720
So it's not really a modality for me.

711
00:34:05,720 --> 00:34:10,120
It's more of a, the energy exchange that we have that moves me more than anything else.

712
00:34:10,120 --> 00:34:12,920
We have a message from Tony Rathman.

713
00:34:12,920 --> 00:34:13,920
I'm squinting.

714
00:34:13,920 --> 00:34:16,920
Tony Rathman, yeah, we've had him on the show.

715
00:34:16,920 --> 00:34:18,760
Tony says, loves the show.

716
00:34:18,760 --> 00:34:19,760
Always great topics covered.

717
00:34:19,760 --> 00:34:21,880
There is so much we don't understand and possibilities.

718
00:34:21,880 --> 00:34:22,880
We don't yet understand.

719
00:34:22,880 --> 00:34:26,240
Tony, you are one of the ones that know this better than the others.

720
00:34:26,240 --> 00:34:30,280
You are the gentleman who is speaking with those on the other side.

721
00:34:30,280 --> 00:34:33,240
So thank you for coming and thank you for your comment.

722
00:34:33,240 --> 00:34:36,360
Thank you for participating in the show.

723
00:34:36,360 --> 00:34:37,360
And you're right.

724
00:34:37,360 --> 00:34:42,680
We do have a lot of different topics and there is so much that we don't understand.

725
00:34:42,680 --> 00:34:46,120
And I think that's probably probably part of the fun.

726
00:34:46,120 --> 00:34:47,120
It is.

727
00:34:47,120 --> 00:34:50,080
And you know, it's like, like we talked about when we kind of first started really getting

728
00:34:50,080 --> 00:34:52,640
into this and, you know, what are your thoughts on death?

729
00:34:52,640 --> 00:34:54,160
What are your thoughts on this?

730
00:34:54,160 --> 00:34:57,600
And some of these things, some of these different modalities that we've since learned about

731
00:34:57,600 --> 00:35:02,600
have seemed so far out there when you first hear about it, you're like, what?

732
00:35:02,600 --> 00:35:05,640
And then at the end of the conversation, I'm like, oh, I'm totally on board.

733
00:35:05,640 --> 00:35:06,640
I believe all of it.

734
00:35:06,640 --> 00:35:07,320
Yeah.

735
00:35:07,320 --> 00:35:12,280
And it is, it's not necessarily the words that they're saying.

736
00:35:12,280 --> 00:35:16,680
But again, the energy, the feeling that that connection, something that I think that you're

737
00:35:16,680 --> 00:35:19,120
connecting on a higher level so you get that understanding.

738
00:35:19,120 --> 00:35:20,120
Definitely.

739
00:35:20,120 --> 00:35:21,120
I took up my hands a lot.

740
00:35:21,120 --> 00:35:22,120
I do as you do.

741
00:35:22,120 --> 00:35:23,920
I feel like I'm going to be knocked out in you.

742
00:35:23,920 --> 00:35:24,920
You might be.

743
00:35:24,920 --> 00:35:29,880
But to your point, I think that's the point.

744
00:35:29,880 --> 00:35:36,000
I think that at the beginning of this journey, I was always trying to find the answer.

745
00:35:36,000 --> 00:35:42,400
And now, if I find myself in love with the question, I think that's the most fun about it.

746
00:35:42,400 --> 00:35:47,120
The fact is, we're never going to know on this lifetime.

747
00:35:47,120 --> 00:35:48,960
We won't know until we cross over.

748
00:35:48,960 --> 00:35:51,440
It just reminded me of like, binging the show.

749
00:35:51,440 --> 00:35:53,400
It's like you love the next episode.

750
00:35:53,400 --> 00:35:54,880
Then what's going to happen now?

751
00:35:54,880 --> 00:35:55,880
What's going to happen now?

752
00:35:55,880 --> 00:35:56,880
What's going to happen now?

753
00:35:56,880 --> 00:35:57,880
You keep wanting to go and find out.

754
00:35:57,880 --> 00:36:01,640
And then, unfortunately, at the end of the show, it's over and you're like, so disappointed.

755
00:36:01,640 --> 00:36:04,320
Well, this show, I mean, not necessarily our show.

756
00:36:04,320 --> 00:36:05,320
Right.

757
00:36:05,320 --> 00:36:07,240
This metaphysical show will never end.

758
00:36:07,240 --> 00:36:08,240
Right.

759
00:36:08,240 --> 00:36:09,240
So that's exciting.

760
00:36:09,240 --> 00:36:10,240
That's the best show to binge.

761
00:36:10,240 --> 00:36:14,000
So I guess that's the point is enjoy the ride.

762
00:36:14,000 --> 00:36:17,440
Enjoy the ups and the downs because we're here to--

763
00:36:17,440 --> 00:36:20,160
Maybe you just told yourself the lesson from today.

764
00:36:20,160 --> 00:36:21,160
100%.

765
00:36:21,160 --> 00:36:23,160
I just, it's exactly.

766
00:36:23,160 --> 00:36:24,880
Tony, thank you so much for the comment.

767
00:36:24,880 --> 00:36:29,680
If you haven't seen, listen to Tony's episode on the Skeptic Minimizations.

768
00:36:29,680 --> 00:36:35,000
We urge you to run and get that-- he's a creator of static comment.

769
00:36:35,000 --> 00:36:38,120
He's like a phone to the other side.

770
00:36:38,120 --> 00:36:39,120
And he actually--

771
00:36:39,120 --> 00:36:40,120
So cool.

772
00:36:40,120 --> 00:36:41,120
It was so cool.

773
00:36:41,120 --> 00:36:43,040
He brought clips and he played them on the show.

774
00:36:43,040 --> 00:36:47,960
And it was like, whoa, you can absolutely hear these things from the other side.

775
00:36:47,960 --> 00:36:54,160
It's not like a typical-- that could have been this in the static somewhere, but it's

776
00:36:54,160 --> 00:36:57,960
a different technology that isn't connected.

777
00:36:57,960 --> 00:36:59,360
So there's no static involved.

778
00:36:59,360 --> 00:37:00,360
So it's pretty amazing.

779
00:37:00,360 --> 00:37:06,000
So we really love that show and we would urge you to go check it out because it's really

780
00:37:06,000 --> 00:37:07,000
good.

781
00:37:07,000 --> 00:37:10,680
You know, one of the things that I love about doing this is a lot of the stuff that used

782
00:37:10,680 --> 00:37:12,720
to be scary just isn't scary anymore.

783
00:37:12,720 --> 00:37:13,720
Right.

784
00:37:13,720 --> 00:37:14,720
You know?

785
00:37:14,720 --> 00:37:17,960
It's like literally opened up so many layers and--

786
00:37:17,960 --> 00:37:18,960
Yep.

787
00:37:18,960 --> 00:37:19,960
Probably different.

788
00:37:19,960 --> 00:37:20,960
Yep.

789
00:37:20,960 --> 00:37:24,800
Tony's building the static-com for.

790
00:37:24,800 --> 00:37:26,200
What is static-com for?

791
00:37:26,200 --> 00:37:27,200
Oh my gosh.

792
00:37:27,200 --> 00:37:29,200
We're going to have to talk to Tony if I'm not like that.

793
00:37:29,200 --> 00:37:30,200
It is.

794
00:37:30,200 --> 00:37:31,200
Yeah.

795
00:37:31,200 --> 00:37:36,280
It would be a holographic image of your dear departed person.

796
00:37:36,280 --> 00:37:37,280
So yeah, that's exciting.

797
00:37:37,280 --> 00:37:38,600
Tony's static-com for.

798
00:37:38,600 --> 00:37:39,600
I remember it.

799
00:37:39,600 --> 00:37:43,200
I know that the one that you shared with us on our show was pretty-- it was very impressive.

800
00:37:43,200 --> 00:37:44,840
I can only imagine what static-com for.

801
00:37:44,840 --> 00:37:48,040
It's going to be-- it's going to outdo Zoom.

802
00:37:48,040 --> 00:37:50,560
Any I can already feel it.

803
00:37:50,560 --> 00:37:52,400
I can already feel it.

804
00:37:52,400 --> 00:37:53,400
Wow.

805
00:37:53,400 --> 00:37:55,080
That's your bar, Zoom.

806
00:37:55,080 --> 00:37:57,680
I mean, isn't it everyone's bar?

807
00:37:57,680 --> 00:38:02,280
I think there are some other dimensional beings right now just looking at you going, oh, well.

808
00:38:02,280 --> 00:38:03,280
Right.

809
00:38:03,280 --> 00:38:06,280
If there are other dimensional beings looking at me right now, they already know how I am.

810
00:38:06,280 --> 00:38:08,280
So they expect that to be the case.

811
00:38:08,280 --> 00:38:09,280
That's true.

812
00:38:09,280 --> 00:38:10,280
That's true.

813
00:38:10,280 --> 00:38:16,920
But yeah, so I think back to the topic at hand, that is the point of our experience.

814
00:38:16,920 --> 00:38:18,600
It's to experience the highs and lows.

815
00:38:18,600 --> 00:38:24,640
So even though I was all crummy because I had a bad day at work, I still am trying to-- at

816
00:38:24,640 --> 00:38:29,600
least this part I've learned, at least I'm trying to give myself the grace to say, it's all

817
00:38:29,600 --> 00:38:30,600
part of it.

818
00:38:30,600 --> 00:38:33,720
So it doesn't take me out for a week like I used to.

819
00:38:33,720 --> 00:38:35,480
It is part of the experience.

820
00:38:35,480 --> 00:38:39,200
I can't be upbeat and positive all the time.

821
00:38:39,200 --> 00:38:44,480
No, because then you would be me now.

822
00:38:44,480 --> 00:38:45,880
Sure.

823
00:38:45,880 --> 00:38:54,600
Anyway, I am appreciative of all of you who are tuning in.

824
00:38:54,600 --> 00:38:56,360
Who are sending us these messages?

825
00:38:56,360 --> 00:38:59,360
Oh, I'm not sure if you've noticed, but we changed the graphics.

826
00:38:59,360 --> 00:39:00,960
We changed the look of our show.

827
00:39:00,960 --> 00:39:02,400
We love to get your thoughts.

828
00:39:02,400 --> 00:39:03,800
This is what it looks like now, right?

829
00:39:03,800 --> 00:39:05,920
This is our new show poster.

830
00:39:05,920 --> 00:39:07,400
I think it looks like a movie poster.

831
00:39:07,400 --> 00:39:08,400
I think it looks like a movie poster.

832
00:39:08,400 --> 00:39:10,600
And it also looks like we're ice skating.

833
00:39:10,600 --> 00:39:12,440
And I've always wanted to be a good ice skater.

834
00:39:12,440 --> 00:39:14,800
Well, I didn't think of it as ice skating.

835
00:39:14,800 --> 00:39:16,400
It looks like it's ice.

836
00:39:16,400 --> 00:39:17,400
It's beautiful.

837
00:39:17,400 --> 00:39:18,400
I love it.

838
00:39:18,400 --> 00:39:20,560
I'm absolutely in love with it.

839
00:39:20,560 --> 00:39:21,640
Love to get your thoughts on it.

840
00:39:21,640 --> 00:39:22,640
Do you like it?

841
00:39:22,640 --> 00:39:23,640
Do you like the other one better?

842
00:39:23,640 --> 00:39:24,640
Can you ice skate?

843
00:39:24,640 --> 00:39:25,640
I can.

844
00:39:25,640 --> 00:39:26,640
Nope.

845
00:39:26,640 --> 00:39:32,040
I mean, I try, but I end up on my butt more times and not.

846
00:39:32,040 --> 00:39:34,760
But I think it looks more modern.

847
00:39:34,760 --> 00:39:37,560
And I think it brings the show to a different level.

848
00:39:37,560 --> 00:39:40,840
So I'm very pleased by it myself.

849
00:39:40,840 --> 00:39:41,840
Yes.

850
00:39:41,840 --> 00:39:44,200
Well, now let me see if I can get it back out.

851
00:39:44,200 --> 00:39:45,200
Oh, there we go.

852
00:39:45,200 --> 00:39:46,200
All right.

853
00:39:46,200 --> 00:39:47,200
Casey loves it.

854
00:39:47,200 --> 00:39:48,200
Thank you, Casey.

855
00:39:48,200 --> 00:39:49,200
Yay.

856
00:39:49,200 --> 00:39:50,200
We're excited that you love it.

857
00:39:50,200 --> 00:39:51,200
I'm glad.

858
00:39:51,200 --> 00:39:52,200
You know, I do these things.

859
00:39:52,200 --> 00:39:54,520
I say, hey, Karen, a team to show graphics.

860
00:39:54,520 --> 00:39:56,200
As you go, what again?

861
00:39:56,200 --> 00:39:57,200
What?

862
00:39:57,200 --> 00:40:01,400
Yeah, I should probably consult with my partner on these things before I do it.

863
00:40:01,400 --> 00:40:05,040
But I just fell in love with it so much that I just I couldn't not change it.

864
00:40:05,040 --> 00:40:07,720
Are you for making a lot of changes?

865
00:40:07,720 --> 00:40:08,720
I have.

866
00:40:08,720 --> 00:40:10,120
But not just not just to our show.

867
00:40:10,120 --> 00:40:11,120
Well, that's what I mean.

868
00:40:11,120 --> 00:40:12,120
To new reality TV.

869
00:40:12,120 --> 00:40:13,120
Yeah.

870
00:40:13,120 --> 00:40:16,720
If you've not checked out new reality TV in a while, we'd love for you to go check it

871
00:40:16,720 --> 00:40:18,280
out and let us know what your thoughts are.

872
00:40:18,280 --> 00:40:20,120
We did redesign it completely.

873
00:40:20,120 --> 00:40:21,120
Different colors.

874
00:40:21,120 --> 00:40:28,640
It's a different feel, different layout of the platform.

875
00:40:28,640 --> 00:40:33,880
And more importantly, all of the episodes, all the show artwork has been upgraded as well.

876
00:40:33,880 --> 00:40:37,080
So it all feels much more professional, I think, in my estimation.

877
00:40:37,080 --> 00:40:38,080
Yeah.

878
00:40:38,080 --> 00:40:40,680
And it better reflects our mission.

879
00:40:40,680 --> 00:40:43,280
And we also have the second annual magazine up there.

880
00:40:43,280 --> 00:40:45,320
And it also has a big improvement on the first one.

881
00:40:45,320 --> 00:40:46,320
Yeah.

882
00:40:46,320 --> 00:40:50,800
And the goals that our content creators have have written that are just really, really

883
00:40:50,800 --> 00:40:51,800
interesting.

884
00:40:51,800 --> 00:40:52,800
Yes.

885
00:40:52,800 --> 00:40:53,800
New reality magazine.

886
00:40:53,800 --> 00:40:55,640
It is up on the platform.

887
00:40:55,640 --> 00:40:57,240
I would urge you to go check it out.

888
00:40:57,240 --> 00:40:58,240
There's a lot.

889
00:40:58,240 --> 00:40:59,240
Second volume.

890
00:40:59,240 --> 00:41:00,800
But both volumes are up there right now.

891
00:41:00,800 --> 00:41:04,520
But volume two specifically is breathtaking.

892
00:41:04,520 --> 00:41:06,280
The coverage itself is amazing.

893
00:41:06,280 --> 00:41:07,840
And then the articles are wonderful.

894
00:41:07,840 --> 00:41:11,120
If you haven't had a chance to read those, we urge you to do that because they're really

895
00:41:11,120 --> 00:41:12,120
good.

896
00:41:12,120 --> 00:41:13,120
A nice job on that, Karen.

897
00:41:13,120 --> 00:41:14,120
Thank you.

898
00:41:14,120 --> 00:41:16,520
And this is for baby.

899
00:41:16,520 --> 00:41:20,760
And there's so much great content on there from people that really, I mean, their whole purpose

900
00:41:20,760 --> 00:41:22,880
is to help people.

901
00:41:22,880 --> 00:41:25,120
And it's just, it's such a lovely community.

902
00:41:25,120 --> 00:41:27,720
Talk about high energy.

903
00:41:27,720 --> 00:41:29,960
So yeah, check it out in new reality tv.com.

904
00:41:29,960 --> 00:41:33,760
And hey, if you have a video content that you'd like to share, let us know.

905
00:41:33,760 --> 00:41:34,760
We'll check it out.

906
00:41:34,760 --> 00:41:35,760
Definitely.

907
00:41:35,760 --> 00:41:36,760
I'd love to collaborate.

908
00:41:36,760 --> 00:41:37,760
Just collaborate.

909
00:41:37,760 --> 00:41:38,760
Just collaborate.

910
00:41:38,760 --> 00:41:39,760
Co-create.

911
00:41:39,760 --> 00:41:40,760
So thank you.

912
00:41:40,760 --> 00:41:41,760
Co-something.

913
00:41:41,760 --> 00:41:44,080
Love to go create with you.

914
00:41:44,080 --> 00:41:45,080
Yeah.

915
00:41:45,080 --> 00:41:47,640
So we are always looking for content partners.

916
00:41:47,640 --> 00:41:51,560
The platform is meant to be a place where you feel people can feel safe to go to.

917
00:41:51,560 --> 00:41:53,040
It's not meant to trigger.

918
00:41:53,040 --> 00:41:55,400
We prefer to stay away from fear-based content.

919
00:41:55,400 --> 00:41:59,160
We prefer to stay away from divisive stuff or political stuff.

920
00:41:59,160 --> 00:42:03,640
It's just a safe place for you to go and know you're not going to be served anything that's

921
00:42:03,640 --> 00:42:06,120
meant to trigger a fear response.

922
00:42:06,120 --> 00:42:10,080
There are some shadow work content on there.

923
00:42:10,080 --> 00:42:12,960
But all in the interest of improving and getting better.

924
00:42:12,960 --> 00:42:16,800
When we first started the conversation, we talked about my own shadow work, my ego thing,

925
00:42:16,800 --> 00:42:19,160
that was having work.

926
00:42:19,160 --> 00:42:21,800
All in the interest of working through it, why is this happening?

927
00:42:21,800 --> 00:42:22,840
What am I supposed to learn from it?

928
00:42:22,840 --> 00:42:24,440
How can I move forward beyond it?

929
00:42:24,440 --> 00:42:25,840
Same general things.

930
00:42:25,840 --> 00:42:28,320
So I'm currently all the content is free.

931
00:42:28,320 --> 00:42:29,560
So you don't have to pay anything.

932
00:42:29,560 --> 00:42:32,920
You just get on there and pop around and watch the different shows, get to know the

933
00:42:32,920 --> 00:42:34,160
different content creators.

934
00:42:34,160 --> 00:42:36,840
And hey, we are on Roku and Fire TV too.

935
00:42:36,840 --> 00:42:37,840
It's great.

936
00:42:37,840 --> 00:42:42,040
If you are on Roku or Fire TV, just search for new reality TV.

937
00:42:42,040 --> 00:42:43,640
I think sometimes you have to put in the dot com.

938
00:42:43,640 --> 00:42:44,640
Sometimes you don't.

939
00:42:44,640 --> 00:42:45,640
I'm not sure.

940
00:42:45,640 --> 00:42:46,640
But you'll find us there.

941
00:42:46,640 --> 00:42:49,520
You'll see the logo and you'll see all the content there as well.

942
00:42:49,520 --> 00:42:50,520
It's pretty cool.

943
00:42:50,520 --> 00:42:51,520
I think it's pretty cool.

944
00:42:51,520 --> 00:42:52,520
The broadcaster is there.

945
00:42:52,520 --> 00:42:53,520
The on-demand stuff is there.

946
00:42:53,520 --> 00:42:54,520
I really enjoy it.

947
00:42:54,520 --> 00:42:57,640
I'm watching now on my TV all the time.

948
00:42:57,640 --> 00:42:58,640
Because--

949
00:42:58,640 --> 00:43:01,520
And that's how we learned to get a little further away from the camera because our TV is big.

950
00:43:01,520 --> 00:43:02,520
Oh, God.

951
00:43:02,520 --> 00:43:03,520
And we saw us on it.

952
00:43:03,520 --> 00:43:05,520
We're like, oh, no one is seeing me that big.

953
00:43:05,520 --> 00:43:06,520
And you make it not high death.

954
00:43:06,520 --> 00:43:11,440
I look better with a little bit of a blur.

955
00:43:11,440 --> 00:43:13,880
That's what I do without my glasses on.

956
00:43:13,880 --> 00:43:20,440
So I can forgive myself and then watch my someone TV and go, oh, God, no, what am I thinking?

957
00:43:20,440 --> 00:43:23,440
No.

958
00:43:23,440 --> 00:43:24,440
What else, Karen?

959
00:43:24,440 --> 00:43:25,440
What else is on your mind?

960
00:43:25,440 --> 00:43:30,680
Well, I was thinking about when we were kind of talking about the energy and what we get

961
00:43:30,680 --> 00:43:31,680
out of doing this.

962
00:43:31,680 --> 00:43:33,680
I don't know if a lot of people know.

963
00:43:33,680 --> 00:43:37,080
I mean, if you've listened to a lot of episodes, you might know this already.

964
00:43:37,080 --> 00:43:42,800
But there was a time there when we actually were looking to stop to sunset the skeptic

965
00:43:42,800 --> 00:43:44,200
manifestations.

966
00:43:44,200 --> 00:43:47,120
And that's because, well, he does all the work.

967
00:43:47,120 --> 00:43:48,840
I just kind of show up and talk.

968
00:43:48,840 --> 00:43:50,840
I think God she does because she--

969
00:43:50,840 --> 00:43:53,160
Without her, the show is nothing.

970
00:43:53,160 --> 00:43:54,160
No.

971
00:43:54,160 --> 00:43:59,920
But it was taking so much of our family life away because you get home from work.

972
00:43:59,920 --> 00:44:03,520
And then this is, you know, either they were making, you know, interviews or having interviews.

973
00:44:03,520 --> 00:44:06,520
But then there's the editing and all the stuff that takes a long time.

974
00:44:06,520 --> 00:44:10,080
So I got to the point where it was really, you know, he was missing out on a lot.

975
00:44:10,080 --> 00:44:16,280
And so we thought, okay, you know, he'd originally kind of done this to kind of work through a crisis

976
00:44:16,280 --> 00:44:19,640
he was having and he was, you know, feeling good about things.

977
00:44:19,640 --> 00:44:24,000
So right before we shut it down, you know, we're like, let's just-- I wonder if anyone's

978
00:44:24,000 --> 00:44:25,240
even listening.

979
00:44:25,240 --> 00:44:26,800
So we Googled it.

980
00:44:26,800 --> 00:44:32,000
And we were not big podcasters at the time and didn't know that Apple had like this whole

981
00:44:32,000 --> 00:44:38,520
review site and we found like multiple pages of reviews.

982
00:44:38,520 --> 00:44:42,160
And you know, we were kind of reading them and people had taken time out of their day to

983
00:44:42,160 --> 00:44:45,760
like go on there to write paragraphs about our show.

984
00:44:45,760 --> 00:44:47,280
I mean, fortunately they were all good.

985
00:44:47,280 --> 00:44:49,880
There were no bad paragraphs.

986
00:44:49,880 --> 00:44:55,760
But the very last one that we read, you know, this guy was kind of talking about how he

987
00:44:55,760 --> 00:44:57,360
can't talk to his family about this.

988
00:44:57,360 --> 00:44:58,360
And it was very heartfelt.

989
00:44:58,360 --> 00:45:02,120
And the last thing he said was, thank you for helping me feel normal.

990
00:45:02,120 --> 00:45:05,400
And Will and I just kind of looked at each other and were like, gosh, if we're helping one

991
00:45:05,400 --> 00:45:07,880
person, we can't stop this.

992
00:45:07,880 --> 00:45:11,600
And then fortunately, the universe did what it does and it dropped some software into Will's

993
00:45:11,600 --> 00:45:14,960
lap that cut his editing time down to like a third.

994
00:45:14,960 --> 00:45:16,360
So it was kind of a win-win.

995
00:45:16,360 --> 00:45:20,120
We were still able to continue the podcast and we were also able to have that family time.

996
00:45:20,120 --> 00:45:21,120
Yeah.

997
00:45:21,120 --> 00:45:22,120
A little miracle right there.

998
00:45:22,120 --> 00:45:23,120
Yeah.

999
00:45:23,120 --> 00:45:25,200
That's some behind the scenes look at what happens at the Skepting and Resitions.

1000
00:45:25,200 --> 00:45:27,200
Maybe you might not have known that.

1001
00:45:27,200 --> 00:45:39,560
So at the end of the day, I think the learning thing, the learning, the moral to this story.

1002
00:45:39,560 --> 00:45:40,560
The learning thing.

1003
00:45:40,560 --> 00:45:41,560
Yes, the learning thing.

1004
00:45:41,560 --> 00:45:43,560
It's been a long day.

1005
00:45:43,560 --> 00:45:46,760
It has been a long day.

1006
00:45:46,760 --> 00:45:47,760
And we still have more to go.

1007
00:45:47,760 --> 00:45:50,200
We've got our meeting here in 15 years.

1008
00:45:50,200 --> 00:45:51,200
That's right.

1009
00:45:51,200 --> 00:45:53,200
And at some point, I have to make dinner.

1010
00:45:53,200 --> 00:45:54,200
Oh, at some point.

1011
00:45:54,200 --> 00:45:55,200
Yeah.

1012
00:45:55,200 --> 00:46:02,880
But I think the moral of this story is enjoy the ups and enjoy the downs because in the downs

1013
00:46:02,880 --> 00:46:08,880
are the opportunities for us to learn so that the ups are better ups and they have been

1014
00:46:08,880 --> 00:46:13,760
in the past because you can't have night without day.

1015
00:46:13,760 --> 00:46:19,080
You can't have man without woman and you can't have Skeptic and Resitions without you.

1016
00:46:19,080 --> 00:46:24,000
So we wanted to say thank you so much for watching, for tuning in, for engaging with

1017
00:46:24,000 --> 00:46:25,000
us.

1018
00:46:25,000 --> 00:46:32,600
For being a part of our community, we are really completely honest, sincerely.

1019
00:46:32,600 --> 00:46:38,680
When we mention to you how much your comments, your engagements, your emails, your voice

1020
00:46:38,680 --> 00:46:45,080
mills, your reviews, all that, all that interaction, you have no idea how much it means to us.

1021
00:46:45,080 --> 00:46:47,800
We really want to say thank you for being a part of it.

1022
00:46:47,800 --> 00:46:51,320
And I talked about how we kept the podcast because we were helping one person.

1023
00:46:51,320 --> 00:46:54,320
And actually, all of you have helped us tremendously.

1024
00:46:54,320 --> 00:46:55,320
Thank you.

1025
00:46:55,320 --> 00:46:56,320
Thank you.

1026
00:46:56,320 --> 00:46:59,320
We are very grateful and we truly love all of you.

1027
00:46:59,320 --> 00:47:02,200
Yeah, we do.

1028
00:47:02,200 --> 00:47:06,240
I guess we're going to say goodbye now.

1029
00:47:06,240 --> 00:47:08,960
We want to say thank you once again for tuning in.

1030
00:47:08,960 --> 00:47:15,840
We will be back again next month, every second Tuesday of the month at 6 p.m. Eastern time.

1031
00:47:15,840 --> 00:47:19,560
If you have any questions or any comments or you want to share your stories, you don't

1032
00:47:19,560 --> 00:47:20,560
have to share it online.

1033
00:47:20,560 --> 00:47:21,560
No worries.

1034
00:47:21,560 --> 00:47:22,560
We'd love to see it.

1035
00:47:22,560 --> 00:47:23,560
We'd love to read it.

1036
00:47:23,560 --> 00:47:27,840
Or if there's any interviews or modalities you'd like to explore, we can do our best to try

1037
00:47:27,840 --> 00:47:28,840
to find those.

1038
00:47:28,840 --> 00:47:29,840
Absolutely.

1039
00:47:29,840 --> 00:47:35,200
The best way to get a hold of us is skepticmanivision.com.

1040
00:47:35,200 --> 00:47:38,600
There's a little tab on the right hand side that says send us a voice mail.

1041
00:47:38,600 --> 00:47:40,080
We would love to hear your voice.

1042
00:47:40,080 --> 00:47:41,640
We might actually play it on the show.

1043
00:47:41,640 --> 00:47:42,960
We'd love to do that.

1044
00:47:42,960 --> 00:47:47,680
So if you feel called, we'd love to hear your voice.

1045
00:47:47,680 --> 00:47:52,040
If you prefer not to leave your voice, but rather send us a voice mail, you certainly can

1046
00:47:52,040 --> 00:47:53,040
do that.

1047
00:47:53,040 --> 00:47:57,520
And of course, if you haven't checked out your reality in a while, all you need to do is

1048
00:47:57,520 --> 00:47:58,520
go to reality.com.

1049
00:47:58,520 --> 00:48:00,200
You'll see all the content there.

1050
00:48:00,200 --> 00:48:06,120
It's all meant to be in the interest of helping raise the consciousness of a planet.

1051
00:48:06,120 --> 00:48:09,280
So we really do appreciate you very much.

1052
00:48:09,280 --> 00:48:12,600
We hope that you will be with us again next month.

1053
00:48:12,600 --> 00:48:15,920
And until that happens, we say now.

1054
00:48:15,920 --> 00:48:16,920
Thank you.

1055
00:48:16,920 --> 00:48:17,920
Thanks, Tha.

1056
00:48:17,920 --> 00:48:21,560
Take care.

1057
00:48:21,560 --> 00:48:22,560
My name is Will.

1058
00:48:22,560 --> 00:48:23,560
And I'm Karen.

1059
00:48:23,560 --> 00:48:24,560
And unlike Moldor and Scully.

1060
00:48:24,560 --> 00:48:25,560
Both want to believe.

1061
00:48:25,560 --> 00:48:27,560
So we've embarked on a journey of discovery.

1062
00:48:27,560 --> 00:48:31,080
We've talked to people deeply entrenched in the spiritual and metaphysical world.

1063
00:48:31,080 --> 00:48:34,000
We've thrown ourselves into weird and wonderful experiences.

1064
00:48:34,000 --> 00:48:35,680
I even joined a covenant with you.

1065
00:48:35,680 --> 00:48:36,680
And, wait.

1066
00:48:36,680 --> 00:48:37,680
You joined a covenant?

1067
00:48:37,680 --> 00:48:38,680
Yup.

1068
00:48:38,680 --> 00:48:40,000
All in the interest of fighting something.

1069
00:48:40,000 --> 00:48:41,000
Anything.

1070
00:48:41,000 --> 00:48:43,280
That will prove that there's something beyond this physical.

1071
00:48:43,280 --> 00:48:45,200
Three-dimensional world we all live in.

1072
00:48:45,200 --> 00:48:47,440
This is the skeptic metaphysicians.

1073
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