Spiritual Awakening: From Reiki to Shamanism

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My name is Will and I'm Garrion, and unlike moulderin Scully, both want

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to believe. So we've embarked in
a journey of discovery. We've talked to

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people deeply entrenched in the spiritual and
metaphysical world. We've thrown ourselves into weird

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and wonderful experiences. I even joined
a coven of witches and wait, you

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joined a coven yep, all in
the interest of finding something, anything,

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that will prove that there's something beyond
this physical, three dimensional world we all

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live in. This is the Skeptic
Metaphysicians. This episode of The Skeptic Metaphysicians

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was recorded live at the Edgar Casey
Are welcome to new awaken names. With

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Edgar Casey's AAR, We're together through
some amazing conversations. Will go through a

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journey of discovery that may shape the
way you think or could even change your

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life. Our guest today began her
metaphysical journey in twenty fifteen when she became

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a suy Reiki master teacher, then
embarked on a multicultural medicine wheel to become

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a shamanic practitioner. This is when
her skills really began to develop and she

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is now a certified metaphysical practitioner with
a degree from the University of Metaphysics.

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And if that wasn't enough, she's
also an ordained minister through the International Metaphysical

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Ministry and currently provides coaching and mentoring
to help others in the development of the

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gifts. I'm excited because I need
a lot of coaching to develop my gift.

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Welcome to the show, Katrina money
Coot, Thank you. They glad

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to be here. Now. We
are excited because we need a lot of

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helped a lot. So well,
let's give us a little bit about who

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you are. We've listed your credentials, okay, but who is Katrina at

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the root of it all? So, at the root of it all,

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Katrina is a person who is here
to serve. I didn't always have that

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mindset, but as I became more
into my spiritual awakening and these gifts that

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I have, I realized that my
goal is to be of service to humanity

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and to animals and to the earth. So to be of service, that's

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what that's who I am. Oh, that's wonderful. Guy said, so

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need to these days too, and
how wow. So it's one thing to

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have these feelings and know that you
want to help, But what led you

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really to reach out to other people
to have that confidence that you can help

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them. So for a long time, I did not have that confidence,

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even though I had these gifts and
I knew it. That confidence took a

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lot of growing. Intuition is a
muscle and you have to practice and develop

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it to be able to do some
of the things that I'm able to do

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now. For a very long time, I cheat. I treated my business

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as a side thing, and I
had a corporate job, and you know,

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I was doing the everyday nine to
five and couldn't put the time and

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energy into the business to do the
things that I want to do to serve.

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So very recently something happened with my
nine to five and I walked away

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and in the past three months have
made this my full time opportunity for people.

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So when you say made this a
full time opportunity, first two part

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question, what okay you talk about
your gifts? What are your gifts besides

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reiky healing? And what is it
that you do that you are now doing

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full time? Okay, So I
have my own business and my business is

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evolving as I go along. Because
it's still a brand new business. But

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typically what I have been focusing on
recently is psych mediumship and that has been

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through the Memorial Spiritualist Church here in
Norfolk. And then I'm going to be

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working with a brand new company that's
starting and they're having a ribbon cutting ceremony

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next week, and that's the Light
Body Holistic And these are the ways that

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I'm serving right now. I'm acting
as a practitioner with psychic mediumship, I'm

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doing some healings and I'm also teaching
classes, so I'm not busy all.

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Oh. So I wanted to kind
of get back to when we were introducing

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you talking about how you embarked on
a multicultural medicine wheel. What does that

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mean? So there is a practice
in indigenous cultures called the medicine wheel,

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and what my medicine wheel was,
the Peruvian version of the medicine wheel was

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predominant, but the person that I
studied with had pieces of other cultures as

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well that she kind of modeled into
that. And the medicine wheel is you

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embark on that to find yourself and
you do a lot of shadow work and

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you do a lot of healing,
and the modalities that come from that are

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really exciting for me because for me, medicine was really really hard because quieting

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my mind that doesn't work. You
know, for me, it's always go,

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go, go. But in the
modality with the shamanism, there's something

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called journeying, and journeying is very
much like meditation, however it's interactive.

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So for me that was my key. That was my key to being able

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to connect in a way that other
people can with meditation. What do you

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mean by interactive? So with the
journey process, the very first thing you

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do is you go and you look
for your power animal. You can also

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look for spirit guides, but in
the shamanic framework, you look for a

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power animal who stays with you through
processes and you identify them and you get

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to know them, and you,
just like you would your spirit guides or

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anybody that is on your team,
you find that animal and you start to

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work with them. So it's not
just sitting there and being quiet. It's

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oh, I need to go look
for this and see where and does your

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animal change. I mean you heard
about spirit animals, We've heard of animal

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totems things like that. Yes,
so your animal changes each journey. Yeah,

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not each journey, depending on where
you are in your life and what

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you need help with gods. So
there's specific animals for in my framework,

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there's specific animals for specific things.
Gotcha. So you don't meet for life

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with your spirits some people and they
can come back. So they're just part

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of your team and when you finished
with them for the part that you need,

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they just step back and sometimes you'll
get them back in a future endeavor

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because you needed it for that as
well. That makes a lot of sense

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because when I was in a younger
man in Miami days, I got very

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interested in shamanic practices and things like
that, and I did do them in

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the medicine wheel, and I did
find my spirit animal, and I worked

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very closely with my spirit animal,
but then lost touch. And now when

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I went back to trying to find
my spirit animal, it was like I

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felt no connection there. So that
makes a lot of sense. So how

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do you find your spirit animal like
this? I mean you just kind of

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go in within an envision the how
does that work? So with the shamanic

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journeying, you are usually led by
a drum beat and you travel into what's

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called the lower world, and that
signifies your subconscious mind. And once you

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get into this lower world, it's
almost if you've ever had a guided meditation

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where they tell you see yourself in
a field. Once you get into that

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lower world, you can see anything. So you may be standing in a

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field, you may be in a
house, you may be somewhere familiar,

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or it may be unfamiliar. But
it's a journey instead of a quiet Okay,

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Okay, I love that. So
I have a hard time with that,

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okay, because for me, the
minute people start telling me, Okay,

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you're gonna go to a field,
you're going to encounter something, what

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is it? My mind's going like
it can't like now, it's too much

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pressure. How do you get beyond
that? So my personal practice in teaching

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people to be able to journey,
a lot of what I do is say,

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you're going to envision yourself by a
place in nature you're familiar with.

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When the drum beat starts, you're
going to go down either through a tree

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or waterfall, whichever way is comfortable
for you and intuitive for you. And

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once you get down into the lower
world, you're on your own. I

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don't tell people what they're going to
see I just say be open to whatever

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you see, even if it's a
multicolored unicorn, because there's a significance for

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anything that's in that lower world.
I want to see multicloring. That just

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sounds beautiful. It does on the
uniform the whole process. So you are

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a shamanic practitioner. What is the
difference between a shamanic practitioner and a shaman?

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Well, I personally don't consider myself
a shaman because the way that I

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understand other cultures, I don't want
to step into that space and say this

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is what I am. A Shamanic
practitioner for me means that I take pieces

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and make them accessible to other people. But I don't feel that I'm a

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shaman because I don't feel like I
was given that that title as so,

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no, that you're not appropriating the
title. Using the tools that they provide

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to help others to grow and correct, and these were tools that were provided

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specifically the Peruvian They were provided to
a gentleman who has come and given us

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the opportunity to learn these as well. My understanding is that the Peruvian Shamans

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were worried about their culture just dissipating
because all of the young people were leaving,

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so they wanted to make sure that
they're culture state passing on their knowledge

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to others. That's amazing, Okay, that makes all the difference in the

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world, that think, because there's
a lot of feelings about these kinds of

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things. When someone calls themselves a
shaman or practitioner, there's a little bit

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of a disconnect over a weirdness about
stuff. But if you have the prouvin

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gentlemen come and teach you because they
want to pass on their knowledge and their

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traditions, that's beautiful and that's wonderful. So then how does someone go about

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learning these things? I mean,
was that here locally or did you go

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somewhere for them? I did have
a local teacher, she's no longer local,

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but I did have someone who again
was well versed. She was actually

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part indigenous herself, so she was
well versed in a lot of different things.

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And I came together with her and
we just we just clicked. I

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did a retreat with her and saw
some of the energy healing modality and for

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me when I had the I had
a session with her and for me it

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changed my life. That was the
turning point for me and my spiritual awakening

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and things just cleared up. Ten
years of therapy didn't touch what that three

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hour session did. Wow. Wow. So for me, that was the

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turning point. I said, I
need to learn this. Sure. So

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now are you are you using what
you learn to help other people in a

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sort of therapeutic way as well,
or are you just kind of more focusing

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on helping people to develop their spiritual
gifts. So right now I'm more focused

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on people helping helping people with their
spiritual gifts. And that's simply because I

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don't have a permanent space to be
able to do the work that I want

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to do with shamanism and everything else. So once that becomes an option,

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I'm sure things will evolve into something
different. But right now I really am

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being called to teach about intuition and
to teach people how to reach those places

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within themselves and to be able to
pass on messages if that's something they want

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to do, or just be able
to use it for their own self.

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Well, that's a perfect transition because
we know one of the things we definitely

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wanted to talk about was intuition versus
psychic ability. So you just mentioned intuition

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and when I think intuition, I
think like that gut feeling, like I'm

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feeling like I need to go this
way because I don't know about that play.

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So what is the difference between the
two, intuition and psychic ability?

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So intuition does develop into psychic abilities. However, intuition, in the way

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that I think about it, intuition
is knowing things for yourself, having that

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gut feeling and being able to discern
these things for yourself. First, it's

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always right gut feeling, is it? Yeah? Okay, yes, absolutely?

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And then so then what is psychic
abilities? That is just the growth

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of intuition so that you can start
to expand and feel and get messages about

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things for other people. That that's
my framework in the way that I think

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about it. It's just intuition is
kindergarten and you graduate into having psychic abilities.

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God, okay, that makes a
lot of sense. I didn't never

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knew the differences between two. So
is it a lot of work to grow

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into that? Because no, no, you will not read no anything,

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So I will tell you it depends
on the person, and you really do

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have to do the work. There's
just no way around it. You can't

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just snap your fingers and say okay, I want to be psychic, you

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know, and not use those abilities
and learn to hone them and be able

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to do that. There are a
lot of simple tools that you can start

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with, so you know, it's
just putting in that time because it is

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a muscle and you have to you
have to practice and develop it well.

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And that's what everyone says, that
you have to do the work. But

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can you give me an example of
what, like, what is one of

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the work things? So you are
in a circle. That's perfect, but

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you want an even easier way,
very very first step, get a deck

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of playing cards. And really the
reason deck of playing cards works well is

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because you could sit in a coffee
shop and do this and nobody knows what

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you're doing. You know, that's
just. But if you get yourself a

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deck of playing cards, the first
thing that you're going to do is is

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this red or is this black?
And you're going to keep track of it.

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So know in the beginning sometimes you're
not going to be able to get

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that because you're building that skill,
but it's also going to show you,

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Okay, when I felt like this
is red, something was different in my

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body, and then when I said
black, I didn't feel exactly the same

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way. So you start to discern
when you're able to into it something.

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So if you start with those playing
cards, the red and black, that's

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a really good practice. Then you
can move to okay, what suit is

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it? And then after that the
tough one is then you start to say

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what suit and what number or is
it you know, one of the face

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cards. So that's a really good
way to practice to just get that going.

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It's interesting the feeling that you said
that you get when you're doing these

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things, when you're right, when
you're wrong, whatever. This is a

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little weird, but I'm gonna go
out there and I'm gonna share with you,

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and I'm not shared with anybody,
not even her. I played Gin

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okay, and my phone have an
app that played Gin on all the time,

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and sometimes I'm playing my opponent and
the opponent will pick up a card

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and I'll just know they're going out, and they will inevitably every time I

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think that they're going out, boo, they're out. It's like, God,

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now, how can I stop them
from going out? So I'm tann

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to figure out that is not something
that you can do. We all have

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free will, so you can't change
anybody else. You can only change your

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perception of what's going on for you. But I can tell you that is

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a really good example that you just
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you know, a lot of people
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their body. Gut feelings don't always
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be anywhere in your body. So
it's just really important if you're doing these

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exercises to be aware of your body
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how it differs when you're right and
when you're wrong. See, for me,

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it's more of a knowing, like
I just know. I don't don't

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and I don't have to look and
see. I don't have to see do

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I feel anything? But right now
it's just like I know, and sure

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enough, I don't want to say
every time I was, probably nine out

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of ten times I will know they're
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out. So is that does that
mean I'm psychic? Yeah, that Karen,

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I'm psychic. That's part of it. That is the clear They call

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it clear knowing the word yes,
clear cognizance. Thank you very much.

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So that is that piece of it. So that's where you've developed stronger than

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any other areas at the moment.
But you can open up some of those

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other areas and develop those as well. Great, so I am psychic agin

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genen psychic only we can monetize that. Yeah, good point, because I

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can know when they're going out.
I can't stop them. That's why I

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was headed. I can't stop them. And then that's maybe the biggest thing

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you need to work on is control
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You might have a point, So
think, can does this work with?

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Can anybody learn how to be psychic? We're all born with intuition, so

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it's not maybe learning how to be
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have that we don't know that's inside
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talk about gifts and things like that, so you help others develop their gifts

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absolutely, and it's not just psychic
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it could be any kind of gifts. Does you mentioned everybody was born

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intuitive? Does everybody have a gift? They we just aren't aware of it.

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You can, you can develop things
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example, I have the knowing that
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I struggle with clairvoyance. I don't
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that other people see. But I
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ship reading, and I can tell
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top hat and a coat. I
cannot see it in my mind like some

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other people can. I just know
that that's what they're wearing. Oh wow.

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So I can see little bits and
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learning to develop. But I don't
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as my knowing full disclusion on the
same way. I know. I've been

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doing them clear cognizance, so I
understand where you're coming from. But I

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really want to see. And I
have the least funnel line of the claars

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because of smell. Yeah, like
every once in a while, especially in

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our daughter's well in the old house, I would have this smelling like a

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little bit of like Kumin or bo
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there's nobody in there, no one
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well, that's you know, what's
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that's a good one. But that
just means that you can start develop thing

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the others as well. You're already
at that place where you've got a little

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hold on one, so let's go
ahead and open up the others. Okay,

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And that's something that you would be
able to help me even But I

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should start with the cards. That
is the best way to start, just

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because it's that practice. I know
I've said it twice already, but that

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muscle really needs to be developed.
And what do you do when you need

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to develop muscles? You can go
to the gym and you work out using

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those cards. Some people some people, yes, but using those cards is

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your intuitive workout. Wow. See
that's you know that. That's so interesting

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to hear that because you think,
oh they have gifts. This person's a

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pecond. You don't actually think of
people working at it. But yeah,

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I like it. It's a muscle, so it's possible. You too.

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It's a muscle, so it's possible. Can I have one of those as

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well? Absolutely? Absolutely, yes, I that's gonna happen. Okay,

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this is trademark. Now, don't
go stealing the idea, right, Well,

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I want to we're running out of
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that we've touched on Serenity Work,
So can you tell us what that's about.

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Yeah, Serenity Works is my business. As you have mentioned, I

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have multiple modalities. I also do
regular coaching. I'm here to be of

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service, so I do a lot
of things. I will say that a

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lot of things are going to be
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said, I'm making this my priority, making my business and building it.

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So there are a lot of things
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that I read about you that sounds
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end of life spiritual services. So
a lot of people call it end of

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life doula, and you know that
word doesn't necessarily resonate with me, and

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I think I'm going to be expanding
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in transitioning. My main goal with
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people who are transitioning and their families. Their families are important because so many

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of us I've had a lot of
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loss is that we have these feelings
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these feelings because sometimes we're jealous of
the attention that someone who's dying gets Sometimes

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we resent them. Sometimes, you
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normal because we're human, and people
don't know what to do with those and

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it turns into something else. It
turns into acting out towards the person who's

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transitioning. It really expands into something. So I really want to be able

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to work with people to identify these
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the person going. There's a lot
of people that want to say, hey,

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I don't want you to go,
even though this person's ready, their

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body is done and their mind is
done, but they're holding on for other

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people. And you know, sometimes
we have to walk away from that.

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And I want to be able to
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us back a little bit full circle. But I do believe that's a shamanic

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practice way to help folks as they're
transitioning out, to help them pass and

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be ready and be comfortable with the
way that the past. It's a beautiful

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tradition and ritual that that shaman has
performed to help someone in need. Absolutely.

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Now are you an author, Katrina, I am going to be shortly.

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I have a set of books that
I'm starting with and there are going

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to be a little pocket guides to
life, and it's going to be about

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different little pieces. But I do
have another book that I'm working on to

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help shift perceptions and plant the seeds
of change. So remember the little pocket

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books for the kids. You can
just imagine a whole line of that and

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a spiritual Yeah. I think that's
very cool. So when are you starting

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that? When you think they'll be
out, I'm fingers crossed by the end

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of summer, I'll have I'll have
something out, Like we said, not

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busy at all, writing some books, starting a business. Yeah, Seed

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to be Patina. This has been
amazing. It's been an absolute pleasure getting

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to know you and getting to understand
what makes you tick. And thank you

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for helping us to realize that I
am psychic. If someone wanted to reach

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out to you, maybe to get
your services, get some helps guidance,

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what's the best way for them to
do that? So the website right now,

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well, I do have social media, so it would be Serenity works

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on Facebook and at Serenity works on
Instagram. I am building those, so

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I just asked for everybody's patients.
My website is also available. That would

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probably be the best way at the
moment to if you are interested in finding

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out more services and what's coming up. Definitely sign up for the newsletter,

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but reaching out to me by email
through the website is probably the fastest way

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to get in touch with me,
and that is Serenity works with an X

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yes wo r x yes. So
you will have just seen that. If

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you're watching the video, you'll have
seen that on a lower third in on

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screen. But if you missed it, or if you just listen listening to

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this and you can go to our
show notes, we'll be sure to lay

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in the information directly there, so
it's easy for you to reach out and

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connect with Katrina. Thank you so
much for coming on. It's been an

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absolute pleasure. Hopefully we have a
chance to stay in touch absolutely, Thank

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you so much and a huge thank
you to you. We know that there

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are tons of options out there and
having you decide to come along on our

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journey of discovery with us is an
absolute honor for us. If you know

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someone who would benefit from hearing the
message we're sharing on the show, do

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them and us a favor and share
the show with them. It will help

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get the word out about us,
and it might just change someone's life for

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the better. Well that's all for
now. We will see you on the

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next episode of The Skeptic Metaphysician.
Until then, take care,