How Qigong Healed 200,000 People Inside a Medicine-Less Hospital

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Okay, Karen, I need you to picture something.

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Okay. Anything?

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No, very specific, something.

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You ready?

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I was already on it.

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I could see that. You are very good at that.

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But here, I need you to picture specifically a hospital.

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Oh, okay.

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Real patients, serious diagnoses,

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incurable conditions on the charts,

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and yet absolutely zero medicine in the building.

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Now, before you make that face,

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this place actually existed.

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Really?

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Yes, in China.

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And people were reportedly walking out from that hospital, healed.

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Oh!

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From things the doctors had given up on,

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using nothing but energy and the power of their own bodies.

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That sounds amazing.

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I know, I had the same reaction,

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but here's the part that really stopped me cold.

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Our guest didn't just read about this place.

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He trained there, under the man who built it.

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And what he figured out about why most of us are stuck,

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not in our minds, but physically,

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cellularly stuck, even after years of meditation and therapy

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and doing all the right spiritual work,

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it's not what you think.

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One of its your body, finally being laid in on the secret

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Hey there, I'm Will.

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And I'm Care. Welcome back to the skeptic-minivision's show

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We are here to talk about the hard questions

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and I guess today trained at a hospital in China

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where the prescription wasn't pills, it wasn't surgery

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and it wasn't a referral to a specialist.

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It was energy.

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Other people would diagnose these conventional medicine had essentially given up on.

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Master Ming-Tong-Gu took that training and brought it to the west

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and has since worked with over 50,000 people across 47 countries.

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Wow.

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He's been on PBS, he's spoken at wisdom2.0,

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he runs 150-acre century in the southwest

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and he was named Chigong Master of the Year,

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which I have to say is a title I deeply respect.

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But he usually actually makes us excited to talk to him.

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He isn't just teaching a technique.

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He's making a case that most of us are spiritually trying

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with our heads while completely ignoring our bodies.

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And the gap between knowing something and actually living it,

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well that gap lives in the body, not in the mind.

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For anyone who's ever felt like they're doing everything right

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and still feels stuck, this conversation is going to hit differently.

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Please welcome best-selling author of the book,

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"Coming home to embodied awakening in the age of AI, Master Ming-Tong-Gu, how are you doing?"

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Hmm, thank you, well, thank you Karen.

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But to be here with you, I'm doing just great, thank you.

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Master Gug, doing research on you, I had a hard time figuring out

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what part to focus on because there's so much to your story

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that is fascinating and I can't wait to share it with the audience.

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But I guess the first thing we need to touch on because we teased it.

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How is this possible?

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Right, honestly, I didn't know anything about medicine at the Chikung Hospital.

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Even a group, grew up in China, from of course, childhood and eventually into the US.

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And so I didn't have heard of Chikung until I was in graduate school,

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study mathematics, then find arts.

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So in Ohio State, actually, and so was really shocking for me.

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As a Chinese, I didn't know anything about Chikung.

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When I covered medicine at the Chikung Hospital, obviously it was like,

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"Wow, how could it be even possible?"

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Then I discovered this is, come from a very ancient history of China.

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You can trace back to yellow and playtime, you know, dolls,

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even before Buddha's, you know.

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And all these energetic practice consider as like,

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"sequit to longevity, secret to your mortality, secret to life basically."

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But I didn't know anything about it, right?

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And I have to live like with my illness, my chronic oigurine is diagnosed with inculobosis

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including asthma, scarisist for like, whole life, things, childhood.

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But on that end, I didn't have any hope of like recovering from these conditions.

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We learned to live with it, adapt to it, and compensate for it.

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But life feels like continuously limiting, limiting, you're seeking for something

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but couldn't find the choose, the choose solution, the choose to see, go to life, right?

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So ultimately, like, whatever we're seeking, you know, most of the time is from lacking, right?

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Some part of us feel lacking, feel, and feel, you know, unsatisfied.

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So sometimes we don't know what we're seeking.

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But ultimately, you're seeking for, in a piece, yeah.

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And that, you know, I didn't know that at the time, right?

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But my first experience, feeling of practicing chigong before I went to medicine in the chigong hospital,

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is a sense of peace, like, inside of my skin.

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And I cannot really reasoning why, but that's like very unusual, simple feeling.

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So after discovering, you know, slow the book, slow moral research,

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discover the medicine chigong hospitals, like, I have to do this, right?

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Not really kind of a mental reason, but it's more like a feeling.

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But obviously, in this case, you know, my connection with my own culture feels like really important for me to go back to China to study more.

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So I went back there and, you know, it's like, there's no way I can describe this phenomenon happening there.

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You can only imagine right now, it's like, okay, you're sure, but in this place,

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the people just like doing this practice, gentle movements, sometimes do sounds, sometimes do sitting meditation, walking meditation,

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but with thousands of people.

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And realizing, nobody is like taking medication, nobody receiving any diagnosis.

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And they're all sick, you know?

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And then most of people is like, try everything already, you know, allopathic, right?

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You have a pain, have a problem, you go to allopathic, trying to, you know, diagnosis, you know,

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whatever medication was surgery, what a man might be.

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The next thing you try is even in China, yeah, first thing is aropathic, then traditional Chinese medicine,

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then something else, more alternative, right?

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More, even like underground, so to speak, yeah.

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Until you're running out of like all the options, then people, most people don't know the medicine,

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hospital exist. So most time it's like, world or mouth in China is like, someone recovered from

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this inculpable condition. Someone transformed their life, then they share with their family,

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their colleagues, actually, at the times people bring whole village to the medicine hospital.

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Even whole family, like, three, even up to five generations show up.

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Wow. Is the hospital still there?

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No, it was closed. Yeah, we're going to talk about that. It was closed by China. We'll talk

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so I want to back up just a little bit because I would have brought my entire family to,

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right? Just to be fair. But so are you saying that Chigong is the reason why those folks that

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went there? I mean, you had over 5,000 people there at one point. Yeah.

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Chigong is what helped to make them feel better?

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Yes, this particular is the practice of Chigong. That's the only activity people engage in the

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medicine of Chigong hospital. So even the teacher, my teacher, the founder of this form of Chigong,

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the founder of the medicine Chigong hospital, he was a tradition of physician, trained in Western medicine.

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And as well, going up, you know, train under many experts in traditional Chinese medicine.

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But one point he decided, you know, to try the Chigong because we know a lot of condition

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diagonals as inculable, right? And so he tried traditional Chinese medicine, then still too slow.

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Over the time, you see the improvement, too slow. Then he tried to Chigong process.

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At the time, he's not teaching Chigong in a large skill yet. But then he started realizing his inculable

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recovery. And as a fact, the Chinese met, I mean, the government put him in jail twice.

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Because he started to produce, I mean, prescribing less, less medication. So you can imagine,

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as a physician, without prescribing medication, recovery of patients.

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So basically the government started to become very suspicious of what he's doing, some sort of

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black magic, whatever, my belief, right? He's a physician, whatever, you know, physician was something.

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So, but after, you know, of course, you know, he searched, you know, they're discovering him,

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not doing anything wrong besides doing Chigong with them. So he became, you know, free, of course. But

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he realized he has to do this, not under Chinese government controls of speak, right? And that's where

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the medicine, Chigong hospital started. So I, I practiced a little bit of Chigong a long time

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ago when I was in my 20s, but it was mixed in with Tai Chi. So what, what is the main difference

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between Chigong and Tai Chi? So those that are practicing right now. Yeah, I put a question. You know,

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people nowadays, Tai Chi is actually more well-known, more popular. You see this like graceful movement,

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but also because of martial art, like PK. That's why Tai Chi become very popular, right? But Chigong,

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actually, he's a choose, well, Tai Chi is one form of Chigong, by the way, historically speaking.

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Chigong is much broader category of practice. Okay? So there are many, many systems of Chigong

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from the Chinese history, especially in modern versions. Yeah. But Tai Chi is one of them. Okay? Gotcha.

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And you know, you know, when you, because Tai Chi is more popular, you're attending Tai Chi classes,

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some teacher, Tai Chi teacher, started introducing some Chigong, other kind of technique of Chigong

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as a warm-up process, right? But actually, Chigong is going deeper than just warm-up. Okay? So in

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general speaking, a completed system of Chigong, obviously, three components, yeah. One is the

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cosmology, cosmology, like what is energy, how to work with energy? No, actually, beyond how to

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work with energy is merely perception of life. What is creation, what is transformation,

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how life works in general, the cosmology, based on energy perception, yeah. The second is how to

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work with energy for benefit of health, benefit of healing, transformation, but benefit of life in general.

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More than just for healing, yeah. So, including like you, we call the paranormal capacity, for example,

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yeah. We can talk about that as well. So, but you can go further is the method, the method,

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usually incorporating sweet aspect. One is movement, yeah. One is breathing technique, right? Another is

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sound technique, but overall is all meditation, right? Active meditation to work with energy, to

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really accessing the energy beyond, you know, our normally thinking, okay, food as energy,

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sun as energy, you go to the forest, you feel nourished by energy of Mother Nature, yeah. And that's

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beautiful, right? You're taking, you know, supplement as energy, but there's another realm of energy

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which is invisible, and you can tap into that energy by doing these practice. So, that's

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is what Chikong is in general speaking. So, much more than Tai Chi as we know. So, I have a question

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about something that you mentioned that the people were healing much more quickly than traditional

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Chinese medicine, like how quickly are we talking? Like how long would it take someone to start

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this process than to feel relief? Right, right. Good question. So, let me make a clear

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chuk statement here. It's really depends on how you're engaging, how you're engaging.

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Individually is different, okay? You know, when you're working with energy, you're working with yourself,

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working with your own body, working with your own mind, particularly the most important part is

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how you're connecting your mind with your own body to discover the energy, how you're doing it

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consistently, yeah. And so, that's all, you know, individually different, but the point is, in this case,

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in the medicine Chikong hospital, the program lasts one month at a time. So, it's really intense.

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Really deep. So, you practice day and night, you know, eight hours, ten hours a day. Wow.

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So, that's right. That's where the miracle happens. That's where the magic happens.

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Was there any specific type of diet that you have to follow? No.

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As well. No restriction. Absolutely no other wishing on medicine. I was supplemented by anything like that.

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So, I know Chikong and Tai Chi, when I was doing it, it was meant to help the energies move through

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your body. You become more embodied to it. So, you feel the flow and it clears out a lot of blockages

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that you might have in your Chi that I would assume is the reason why it would help folks.

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When you do it for that long, eight to ten hours a day, then we talk about manifestation and we talk

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about meditations and could it have a lot to do with the fact that you are doing this practice,

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you're allowing the energy to flow, which allows you to tap into those powers for lack of a better

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term, easier, more concentrated to make things happen like that. So, here's the one way of understanding

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I think is the most simple way. So, the sweet aspect, when you're perceiving everything is energy.

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For example, this moment, I close my eye, I start to feel my body differently. Then like, okay,

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you know, look at the screen. I love you guys. I love you, right? All right. But when I close my eyes,

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I start to internally feel my body, but beyond our own normal perception of the body as object,

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yeah, as vehicle, as a machine, even as a biological function, even as a problem to solve.

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It starts to feel very different. This presence of my body, both visible and invisible,

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and is so internal, is so undeniable. So, it's so much beyond the story, beyond the diagnosis,

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beyond our thinking. And that feeling is a foundation, is a foundation, okay? So, it's not about

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problem solving. It's like, you come back to yourself, 100%. Yeah, not just part of you, not just

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argumentation, not just identification, not just believing the story of inculable. For example,

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I didn't discuss this until later, until I recover from my own inculable condition. And realizing,

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many years later, in the process of teaching my students, realizing that identification of inculable

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is come from a person diagnosed with you, of course, from conventional medical system point of view,

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what they're saying is from, well, they know I cannot cure you. I cannot help you. That makes sense?

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It does. It does. They know all the treatment, they know I cannot fix you.

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Right. So, here's a conclusion. That doesn't mean the problem is so cannot be solved. That means,

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doesn't not mean the yearning itself is inculable. I love that. Yeah. So, it's not it's incurable,

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is that that person can cure it. Exactly. But mostly, we take this as a day sentence, as a choose,

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as the only choose. Yeah. Wow. And that was so enlightening for me, you know. Wow. We're ready to take

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the power back, right? So, just get the choose inside of us. So, come back to the original question.

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How does work? Okay. So, first of all, is this recognition, is this recognition that this body is

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beyond object, beyond a machine, beyond even biological function. This body is energy system.

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It's energy. It can hardly define energy one way or another. So, one way is you continue to discover

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what is energy by go deeper into the body, discover all this physical layer, this emotional layer,

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this mental spiritual layer of myself, this visible energy, invisible energy, this physical energy

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non-physical existence. And there's boundary of the physical body, but it's undefined. There's no

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boundary of energy connection with the Mother Earth, being Jesus, with Heaven above us, with infinite

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visible, invisible life around us. So, now the quantum physics knows, prove the ancient wisdom,

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validating the same knowing, yeah, in the whole universe, it's only 4% is physical, measurable.

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The rest is not just empty space. The 96% even more is energy, is G. The science called

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antimatter, called stream, whatever words might be, right? In the quantum physics language,

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but pointing to the same choose, yeah, and yet you can access that energy. So, not just like believe

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all the energy existence, or not, so be it, but it's like when you discover the energy exist,

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you can access that energy, you can cultivate this energy because you are that energy.

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Then, when you're working with energy, but that's the number one importance, is that perception.

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We all know, experience is determined by our perception. Is that right?

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For sure, yeah. We all expect on that, right? Right?

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But our perception has been so limited, based on misconception, based on mistake,

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based on, you know, not knowing value. So, by doing this practice, you discover

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the deeper choose of energy, deeper connection of energy, deeper power of energy. But when you

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work with energy, like, few saying you recognize right away, oh, energy is infinite. There's just

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absolutely no limitation to it, which is what we all are. Yes, Sam. Right. And energy has no boundary.

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In this moment, when we see each other as just physically defying, visually defying,

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you know, body, then we experience separation. That's the truth. On one hand,

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on the other hand, when it's tapping into the invisible energy, oh, between you, me,

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no matter how many hundreds, miles, thousands, miles away, it's not just empty space.

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Is this energy field of Mother Earth, in comes in all life?

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So if I'm connected with that energy field, then we are connected so the energy field. That makes

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sense? Yes. And I'm loving what you're saying. Right? But it's not a concept. It's the experience you

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have to discover for yourself. We've had a lot of conversations, a lot of different people talking

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about energy and people that are healers. And one of the things we've heard that just popped into my

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head was we hear about the chord cutting. And we hear about when you're with someone and you can

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get this negative energy. What are your thoughts on that? Is there negative energy or is it just

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energy or in perfect timing? Ask that question. I was going to tap into to share.

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So, okay. So we, that's clear. Okay. When you're tapping to infinite energy, energy is connecting

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all life, nothing is separate. Yeah. Energy existing outside of you as well existing in your body.

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Yeah. So there's a question of what kind of energy, negative, positive, good, bad, right,

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wrong. And that's how we usually work with energy, our perception. Yeah. So here is the secret,

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radical approach. What if you let it go of these labor, good, bad, right, wrong, negative,

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positive? There's only two patterns of energy. Two patterns. One pattern is energy is open,

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flowing, permeating, nourishing, connecting. Yeah.

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Another pattern is the same energy for whatever reason, contracted, yeah, suppressed, disconnected,

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isolated, normed. So bottom line is stressed, stressed. Simple. So when the energy is contracted,

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stressed, then that energy, the function, physical, emotional, mental, whatever, you know,

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is its own function is compromised. Yes. Naturally compromised, limited. Yeah. When the same energy,

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weakening, opening, yeah, connecting, flowing again, you know, I have to, I couldn't help to open my

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arm, you know, you're just all functioning coming back. You feel good. So it's not based on what's

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wrong with me, how good, how it is, you know, negative, positive. So when you're working with energy,

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this new paradigm, all this only two patterns, contracted pattern or functions limited,

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then I can open in this pattern, then all the function coming back.

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See? But chronically, we are all in contracted pattern.

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That's the problem. So where's it come from? From stress of life.

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Yes, we all know, you know, more than I don't know the number, like 80%, 90% of

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cause of main cause of specially cornico condition is from stress.

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Even a curial condition, if something curial happens, even accident happens, you thinking that

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accident causing that injury problems. But deep down, if we go further, it's causing from stress.

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Because without stress, most likely you will not have this accident. Think about that.

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Right? So then this, this chigong help you to

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uncontract this energy? Yeah, that's exactly what does. Yeah, simple. The simplicity is go into the

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body, noticing where you're feeling the stress, where you're feeling the tension, where you're feeling

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the contraction, where you're feeling the pain. I think of the story, good, bad, right, wrong, you

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know, what is the victim? Oh, my life was so bad, my parents abused me, you know, my job, whatever.

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of your past. Yes. So it's not about change your story is like you go deeply into your body,

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feel that juice, but the juice is much deeper is like whatever you're feeling this moment is a

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result of your whole history, my dear. I just want to sit with you every day. I just want to come

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and listen to you and just sit, listen to you. So it sounds very similar to things like the

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Western spiritual teachers are talking about, but in a different way, we talk about Eckhart Tolle,

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who says the power of the present moment, right? So you're going in and feeling your body, feeling

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your energy, you have to be very present. And you actually talk about presence being able to be

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transmitted, not just taught. What does that actually mean? And can it happen over a podcast? Yeah.

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You know, when you pay attention, you feel, you're feeling this transmission and you're feeling the

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presence naturally. Yeah. But let me take one step further back a little bit, because when you

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access in your own body and energetic, you discover, continue, discover layers of layers of yourself.

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Yeah. And with the intention, yeah, with this recognition, yeah, you are whole, you're complete.

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No matter what is your story, no matter what is your diagnosis, yeah. As human being, you are complete.

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So when you recognize in that, you start to release the struggle, release the stress,

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release the striving, releasing the performance, releasing all the busy, busy mind, yeah,

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continuously, yeah. This is fragmenting the energy system of yourself.

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So, but further deeper, obviously, you're not just sitting there, saying, oh, I'm whole, I'm whole,

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I'm believing, I'm whole, I'm well, yeah. It's like you actively engage with your own body,

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your own energy system, doing these movements, yeah. For a gentle, gentle movement to release the stress,

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releasing the tension, releasing the progress, yeah, to undo all the stress for conditioning from life,

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basically. But from a loving place, from most deeper connection with yourself.

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So because this body is you, here's a deeper choice, I'm going to shock you.

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A little bit. Bring it on. I know you're ready for everything.

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It's not like actually I'm going to invite all the listeners to join music experience, yeah,

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placing their hands on top of a chest. Just say these words after me without analyzing it.

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Without this body, I do not exist as a human being. Without this body, I do not exist as a human being

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and feel the truth. Feel the presence of your own body, feel the presence of your own existence

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beyond any story, any assumption, any concept.

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And the second choice, without this body, I cannot experience life as a human being.

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Without this body, I cannot experience life as a human being and feeling that truth.

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Honoring all the experience of life as human being, your entire history,

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the gift of life, the experience of life, the up and down, including the experience, the

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moment, whatever is true for you. The third choice, without this body, my soul cannot evolve in the

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lifetime without this body, my soul cannot evolve in the lifetime. And feel this truth,

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beyond any concept, any analysis, any assumption, or any expectation,

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simply feel the wholeness of your presence, your energy presence,

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incompsing all the dimensions of your self, physical, emotional, mental, spiritual,

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incompsing, every aspect of yourself, the known, unknown, the personal, the collective.

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What a beautiful silence. Thank you, thank you for joining me in this recognition.

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It's a deep feeling, a rise when we recognize the deeper choose come back to presence. It's not a concept.

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It's not just presence of what's wrong to you, even identify the moment of now, so on. It's really here.

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So when you're connecting here with this body, you're naturally present.

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You're naturally here. You're naturally moving towards completion of your own.

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Your existence.

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So again, the main piece I want to share with you, with the world is literally

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we're being bypassing this body, we're being missing this body.

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So when we're recognizing, we're not just consciousness. This body is physicalized, the expression of consciousness.

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Consciousness, we speak enough. Can I exist just as a ghost as human beings?

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Well, you bring up a great point because your book has to do with embodied awakening in the age of AI.

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Right? AI isn't disembodied. Totally.

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So we are offloading more and more of our thinking to AI. So what does that do to us in this case?

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It's so powerful, such a critical time, you know, on one hand, we never experience anything like

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this inhuman history, this AI phenomena, phenomena. On one hand, it's just

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extraordinarily powerful tool. On other hand, can quickly leading us to total destruction, total

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distinguishing of humanity. As you point out, simply, leading us towards more and more

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disconnection, farmed this embodied element. So just give us, you know, a little bit of context is like this.

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I don't know, of course, the complexity of history, but one thing happened is like in the West,

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but now also in the East as well, this idea from the core. I think therefore I am,

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we totally identify with thinking, thinking, thinking, thinking, mind, mind, mind, that's the identification.

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That's how we love life. As if we were just like walking stick of thinking.

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Because over emphasising the thinking, yeah, continue living above the shoulder, above the neck,

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living the story in a mental constructed reality, performance, everything, whole education,

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even transformation of feel is all about mindset, about thinking, is about mind-controlling

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everything else. That's the phenomena, right? Because of that, we're creating a super power

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to illustrate that, this AI come from that. Yeah. So create a super machine based on thinking.

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Now is the passing of own thinking. Think about that. Inevitable,

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yeah, inevitable. Because we're being folk song, thinking, thinking only, performance performs only.

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Right? So create a super power demonstrating how powerful thinking can be now, right?

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But with that, the price is so painful, so, yeah, extraordinarily aligning,

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yeah, this disconnection from this body. So, ironically, you know, asking the AI the question,

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can you experience life? Can you experience life? That's so simple.

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The AI said, you know, didn't say, AI, you know, he said, AI can assimilate all your experience,

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describing all your experience in beautiful poetry, beautiful images, beautiful song,

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beautiful music and so on, but cannot directly experience life.

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Cannot feel as you feel. Then I realized, why? Only because I have this body as human being.

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Then I realized, my whole experience exists only because I have this body.

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Not because I have a mind. That was the mistake we'd be making. Right?

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Think about that. Yeah. That's the differentiation between me and this AI machine, no matter how powerful

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this machine can think. So the question is not about, can this AI have consciousness or not?

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The question is more, what is the difference between AI and me as human being? That's the time

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to recognize that. So when we feel overwhelmed, feel lost, feel even just empowered by the AI,

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or manipulate it even nowadays, by the AI. That's the time reminding us, if we don't make the choice

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coming back to this body, we can lose to humanity, embodied consciousness, embodied experience,

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embodied love, pain, loss, sadness, all that human experience.

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So we often think of these imperfections of humanity. So we want to perfect it to the point of

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not feeling anything anymore, become thinking machine. And that's happening now. It's not like

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next generation. So when I realize that, it's so super clear, we're facing the choice, but my choice

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is like, no, I don't want to be that machine. No matter how powerful this machine can think, can

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perform. I want to be human. So that's, it's reclaiming, reclaiming my own body, my own power

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as human being. It's not perfection. It's not performance, but too powerful experiencing life.

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Then I realize that my whole life exists to experience what it is.

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Let me make sense. It's completely, absolutely. Not trying to, you know, perform, to prove

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how many of us continuously struggling in this loop of performing, approving, you know,

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something, improving, something, fixing, something. Do you think we come all the way here to be human?

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Just to perform. We don't have to come here.

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without hate, there's no love.

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yeah, limitation, to liberation, hate to love, that's the fulfillment as human being.

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Yes, I could sit here and listen to you all day long. All day every day.

421
00:42:28,480 --> 00:42:31,920
I have six pages of questions and I'm not interested in a single one.

422
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So don't talk, just listen.

423
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I don't want to interrupt you. I don't want to interrupt you. I don't want to interrupt you.

424
00:42:39,440 --> 00:42:41,200
I thought I don't want to interrupt anything that you're saying.

425
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I love so much what you're saying about our bodies because especially as women,

426
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we're always taught that our bodies aren't good enough. I have two fat, two tall, two thin,

427
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two this, two that. So you're constantly looking at yourself and it's not good enough.

428
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And it's only recently due to a health issue that I really started to look at my body and think,

429
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it's wonderful. It has done so much for me. It's let me have these experiences.

430
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And it's changed me. It really has. So thank you for saying that.

431
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Oh, Karen, it's like so or later, we're going to discover, oh my god, this body is more than what I think.

432
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So one of the most powerful excites to ask my students to do is like writing a love letter to your own body.

433
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But really honest, truthful, authentic love letter, not like teen easier kind of love letter,

434
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not like beautiful, my past kind of love letter.

435
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But you in timber, authentic, yeah.

436
00:43:48,720 --> 00:43:58,400
Not just one. Yeah. When you keep doing it, suddenly, wow, wow,

437
00:43:58,400 --> 00:44:09,440
deep discovery, deep self-discovery, deep compassion for yourself, for life.

438
00:44:12,640 --> 00:44:19,120
It's like, we're all seeking for the right thing. Everybody's seeking for the same thing, basically.

439
00:44:19,120 --> 00:44:27,840
When we lack of health, we're seeking for health, right? And mostly all seeking for love, of course,

440
00:44:27,840 --> 00:44:36,000
seeking for joy, of course, but ultimately seeking for peace, yes. And seeking for connection,

441
00:44:36,000 --> 00:44:41,120
seeking for fulfillment in the meaning of life, fulfillment of life.

442
00:44:41,360 --> 00:44:50,240
Yeah. And yet, even we're all seeking for the right thing, universal thing, but we're seeking in the wrong place.

443
00:44:50,240 --> 00:45:06,400
Outside of us, yeah, with something else, with someone else, yeah. With whatever achievement, success, performance, validation, yeah, power, whatever it might be.

444
00:45:07,920 --> 00:45:16,160
But then often, we feel the choosiest, none of that is sustainable. None of that is truly fulfilling.

445
00:45:16,160 --> 00:45:27,200
So, the choosiest, the secret is very simple. Everything you're looking for is already inside view, not as a concept.

446
00:45:27,200 --> 00:45:33,840
You know, sometimes we spiritually speaking about this concept, you know, inside view. But what that means inside view,

447
00:45:34,480 --> 00:45:42,800
what I'm saying is inside your body, my dear, it's tangible. The energy existing inside your own body,

448
00:45:42,800 --> 00:45:52,800
in your brain, in your heart, in your bone, in your blood, in yourself. And that energy, when the energy, as I said, you know,

449
00:45:52,800 --> 00:46:03,120
is moving, opening, flowing, you feel the vitality, you feel health. Yeah. All conditions start to improve.

450
00:46:03,120 --> 00:46:07,440
Doesn't matter what's your old history or diagnosis, maybe. Start to improve.

451
00:46:07,440 --> 00:46:16,880
When your energy of your heart, opening, the same visible energy of the heart is more than just, you know, what is pumping inside of your chest.

452
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It's just feel, you know, now can be measured.

453
00:46:20,560 --> 00:46:30,560
You know, most of us, familiar with the amazing work of heart mass, yeah. And measuring the energy, basically the energy,

454
00:46:30,560 --> 00:46:38,480
feel the heart is not only measurable, you know, seven, eight feet from your body, but measurable even beyond the room.

455
00:46:38,480 --> 00:46:46,640
But even more subtle, you measure, then the bigger the energy, feel is.

456
00:46:46,640 --> 00:46:58,480
So it's like if you measure the tangible energy, the intensity, so on, you know, then the energy is become weaker, weaker,

457
00:46:59,200 --> 00:47:05,360
more distance, yeah, further distance, right? But if you measure the subtle energy,

458
00:47:05,360 --> 00:47:14,560
to the level beyond equipment can measure, then the field is much open.

459
00:47:14,560 --> 00:47:21,360
Yeah. So more sensitive people are like, okay, even even when I sense too

460
00:47:21,360 --> 00:47:31,360
enough, still when people come to close to you, even behind you, without you seeing them, it like within three, four feet, you feel them.

461
00:47:31,360 --> 00:47:39,200
Yeah, without touching it, without seeing them. But sensitive people, you can sense like what's much further, yeah.

462
00:47:39,200 --> 00:47:48,400
Many years, you know, away, yeah. But when you pay attention, when you quietly your mind, oh, suddenly you can hear the birds,

463
00:47:49,680 --> 00:47:56,880
when your mind is busy, you cannot hear the birds. They're there. We're totally in ignorance, right?

464
00:47:56,880 --> 00:48:08,480
Yeah. In disconnection. It's like this recognition, this recognition, you know, who we are, is just so amazing.

465
00:48:08,480 --> 00:48:15,440
So what I'm saying is, our relationship or own body,

466
00:48:17,280 --> 00:48:24,880
is that it's like the ultimate relationship, yeah. So what I was saying, when the energy awakening opening in your body,

467
00:48:24,880 --> 00:48:32,480
your health naturally improves, when the energy of your heart open, your naturally expands more joy and love.

468
00:48:32,480 --> 00:48:42,160
That doesn't mean absence of hurts, absence of food, you know, this disconnection, I mean, discomfort, yeah.

469
00:48:43,280 --> 00:48:49,360
When the energy awakening opening, like your brain energy connecting with your kidney energy system,

470
00:48:49,360 --> 00:48:54,000
then this energy, we in a yoga tradition called Kundukonglinian energy,

471
00:48:54,000 --> 00:49:01,120
but in Chikong, we call it "ching energy." And that's one of the most powerful energy, creative energy.

472
00:49:01,120 --> 00:49:10,320
When that energy contracted, we experienced in fear, anxiety, like frozen, then fight flight, right?

473
00:49:10,720 --> 00:49:16,960
Yeah. But when the same energy, unfrozen, same energy, yeah, waking up, flowing again,

474
00:49:16,960 --> 00:49:21,280
that energy naturally arising around the governor channel, in around the spine,

475
00:49:21,280 --> 00:49:28,000
yeah, nourishing the heart in the chest level. You go further up, nourishing the brain, yeah.

476
00:49:28,000 --> 00:49:31,600
Awakening your mental capacity into another level.

477
00:49:31,600 --> 00:49:38,400
Some more creativity, more clarity, more spiritual connections start naturally happen.

478
00:49:39,200 --> 00:49:47,760
So in a place like ours where I've been looking for Tai Chi, Chikong classes, since I've lived here,

479
00:49:47,760 --> 00:49:53,440
and I can find them nowhere, is someone wanted to learn how to practice Chikong?

480
00:49:53,440 --> 00:49:57,520
How can someone do that in a place that doesn't currently offer it?

481
00:49:57,520 --> 00:50:03,680
That's another powerful paradox, the gift of taking the hours in.

482
00:50:04,400 --> 00:50:09,760
It exists right now here, right? Because of that, yeah? That.

483
00:50:09,760 --> 00:50:17,440
So we're living in another era, it's like, wow, I'm able to teach Chikong class,

484
00:50:17,440 --> 00:50:23,040
weekly, connecting with people from all around the world globally,

485
00:50:23,040 --> 00:50:29,440
even allow us to feel this energy connection, infinite, inseparable bonus.

486
00:50:30,960 --> 00:50:37,920
We used to have to come in person, in the old days, you have to travel a long distance to find a

487
00:50:37,920 --> 00:50:43,440
group, find a teacher. Now, in your living room, in your bedroom, in your kitchen,

488
00:50:43,440 --> 00:50:50,800
you can just one click, we're at the end. But we probably prefer you not join from your bathroom,

489
00:50:50,800 --> 00:50:52,160
but anywhere else, you know.

490
00:50:56,400 --> 00:51:02,080
It's interesting because you mentioned, you mentioned that in the hospital, the model wasn't just

491
00:51:02,080 --> 00:51:09,120
individual healing. It was what you call the "dechi" field, right? That you brought together groups

492
00:51:09,120 --> 00:51:14,960
of people for healing, and there's a belief that Chi becomes available for group healing,

493
00:51:14,960 --> 00:51:18,720
even stronger than when you do it on your own. How does that work?

494
00:51:18,720 --> 00:51:25,840
Yeah, exponentially stronger, the mess for mathematics, the mathematics for

495
00:51:25,840 --> 00:51:31,520
energy is very different than for physical object. When you look at the physical object,

496
00:51:31,520 --> 00:51:36,320
it's like one plus one equal to two, right? You know, in all days, you know, young,

497
00:51:36,320 --> 00:51:42,160
willing to use mathematics, like using stick, whatever, one plus one, they're okay with two, right?

498
00:51:42,160 --> 00:51:48,800
It's obvious, right? When you walk in with energy, it's all about connection, activation.

499
00:51:48,800 --> 00:51:55,280
So imagine, ELA, your energy system is pulsating, changing, depends on

500
00:51:55,280 --> 00:52:01,040
your mental, emotional, state as well, physically, how you're engaging, you know, with your body,

501
00:52:01,040 --> 00:52:08,480
with life in general. So when you're coming together as a community, we are making the connection,

502
00:52:08,480 --> 00:52:15,120
between let's say you and me, when we're making the connection, when we talk, even this moment,

503
00:52:15,120 --> 00:52:21,120
our energy bodies start to expand. Much more than me, only, I'm stuck.

504
00:52:21,120 --> 00:52:22,480
Yeah.

505
00:52:24,880 --> 00:52:33,040
So then this interaction, yeah, creating another energy field, another invisible energy field,

506
00:52:33,040 --> 00:52:40,480
which is more than one plus one equal to two. So is one plus one become sweet, basically.

507
00:52:40,480 --> 00:52:46,960
Then imagine you're putting 100 people together. Yeah. Yeah. This multiple,

508
00:52:46,960 --> 00:52:52,720
beyond this multiple become exponential. So you can imagine a thousand people together.

509
00:52:53,280 --> 00:53:04,080
Yeah. So when science we did kind of a measurement is just very sophisticated biotechnology measuring

510
00:53:04,080 --> 00:53:12,080
the energy of the loom, which is actually by from Russia. Russia has like most sophisticated

511
00:53:12,080 --> 00:53:17,840
energetic technology. Yeah. And Chigong, I think, is have most sophisticated, you know,

512
00:53:19,120 --> 00:53:25,280
energy practice, that's a different farm energy measurement. So we had an expert came to

513
00:53:25,280 --> 00:53:32,800
all the tree in all these three centers here last October measuring the energy of the loom day and

514
00:53:32,800 --> 00:53:39,760
night, 24/7 every second. So not like measure one moment, the continued cumulative data is like

515
00:53:39,760 --> 00:53:47,920
tons of tons of data accumulate over 30 days. So the result is astonishing. It's like this.

516
00:53:49,040 --> 00:53:55,440
The energy of the loom in week, you know, whatever in the beginning, then become like this.

517
00:53:55,440 --> 00:54:03,680
Then continue grown, continue grown, continue grown, reaching to the top, very top in the last week of

518
00:54:03,680 --> 00:54:13,600
the 30 days. Then another phenomena is the energy expansion. Yeah. The field of energy I'm talking about

519
00:54:13,600 --> 00:54:20,080
when we're connecting or energy field expand. Yeah. So actually in the same way collective in the loom,

520
00:54:20,080 --> 00:54:29,040
the energy is called the forgot the terminology, the space of energy, the spatial distance,

521
00:54:29,040 --> 00:54:38,640
size of energy is expanding same pattern, similar pattern, the intensity, same pattern become more

522
00:54:38,640 --> 00:54:47,600
intense, more intense. But another phenomena is more extraordinarily is called the entropy, entropy of

523
00:54:47,600 --> 00:54:54,960
energy. The entropy. Yeah. Entropy is like the lower the number, the negative, the number indicating

524
00:54:54,960 --> 00:55:03,840
cohealance residency. But entropy is usually always unstable. It's like when you're creating cohealancy,

525
00:55:03,840 --> 00:55:11,440
the entropy goes down and that's me indicating more cohealancy. But then when engaging radical,

526
00:55:11,440 --> 00:55:17,440
you know, common activity again, then entropy disappears, right? Become more like whatever

527
00:55:17,440 --> 00:55:24,240
normal pattern might be. But what happened in the retreat, not only the entropy cohealance happened

528
00:55:24,240 --> 00:55:32,320
more frequently, frequently over the time. But in the third week, the entropy decline, like the

529
00:55:32,320 --> 00:55:43,280
stable declining, the remaining inactive. And that's, it's like unbelievable. I mean, the scientists

530
00:55:43,280 --> 00:55:49,440
to basically hear, you know, he's like really walk with the government, measuring the energy field

531
00:55:49,440 --> 00:55:55,360
of the environment, everything is like very sophisticated, you know, expert. He never seen anything

532
00:55:55,360 --> 00:56:03,120
like this. Wow. So that's what the chief field is about. Right. Yeah. That is a field I want to feel.

533
00:56:03,120 --> 00:56:13,040
Yeah. But eventually when you stay in that chief field long enough, you start to carry the chief field.

534
00:56:13,040 --> 00:56:21,360
Yeah. Your body carry that chief field. That in the sense of, you know, openness, resonance, harmony,

535
00:56:22,080 --> 00:56:31,440
connection, right. And that's the foundation of life. Well, Mr. Goome, unfortunately, we're out of time.

536
00:56:31,440 --> 00:56:38,640
I want to talk about this for hours. Absolutely. Yeah. Your book is coming home to embody the

537
00:56:38,640 --> 00:56:46,240
awakening in the age of AI. These concepts, I assume, are all in that book and then a lot more. Yeah.

538
00:56:47,200 --> 00:56:54,880
We can go so much deeper in the book. And when phenomena is found a leader, it was kind of unusual.

539
00:56:54,880 --> 00:57:01,600
You know, I didn't know what to expect because I just had felt I have to write this book. Otherwise,

540
00:57:01,600 --> 00:57:08,960
I cannot sleep. And but then the book came out, people are reading it. They start to feel the energetic

541
00:57:08,960 --> 00:57:14,960
opening in their body. The embody experience that happened, sort of feel the transmission beyond

542
00:57:14,960 --> 00:57:21,600
just the intellectual understanding of the words. And that is powerful surprise for me.

543
00:57:21,600 --> 00:57:29,280
So I'm so ready to share this with anyone who ever is ready. By the way, you know, this kind of

544
00:57:29,280 --> 00:57:34,080
practice we're doing, even the message I'm sharing is not just for the people who are sick.

545
00:57:34,080 --> 00:57:41,120
That's for everybody. Yeah. Everybody. We are living so much about here. Yeah. The connection with

546
00:57:41,120 --> 00:57:47,920
their own bodies, the most powerful practice we can do for human being to improve not just health,

547
00:57:47,920 --> 00:57:53,040
but improving the functioning, the quality of life, improving humanity basically.

548
00:57:53,040 --> 00:57:58,160
Actually, to the point of reclaiming your humanity. I love it. I love it. Beyond anything you could

549
00:57:58,160 --> 00:58:03,920
possibly imagine. Where can I go to sign up for your glasses? Where is someone watching or listening?

550
00:58:03,920 --> 00:58:08,800
Where can they go to connect with you? I'm proud to go to my website, Mintong Cool.

551
00:58:09,440 --> 00:58:15,200
2G, mintong Cool.com. We're going to add a direct link in our show notes. So if you don't,

552
00:58:15,200 --> 00:58:18,720
if you don't have a pen and a particular point time, why don't you do go to skepticmanevisition.com

553
00:58:18,720 --> 00:58:23,920
go to master goons episode. You'll see the link directly laid in the show notes. It's easy for you to

554
00:58:23,920 --> 00:58:28,880
connect master. I can tell you you've at least sold one book out of this because I'm going to buy it.

555
00:58:28,880 --> 00:58:33,360
Yes. And I'm definitely going to connect with you because I think I truly have been looking for

556
00:58:33,360 --> 00:58:38,640
a chagoon practice for a long time. I think this is pre timing is perfect. So thank you so much

557
00:58:38,640 --> 00:58:45,120
for being on the show. Yeah, I'm delighted. Thanks so much for this conversation, this opportunity,

558
00:58:45,120 --> 00:58:57,600
and this space energy space we created. Yeah. Thank you so much for your wisdom.