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the consciousness of the world. This
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of Spirit Sherpa, hosted by the
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to Nailing your Spiritual Growth in Record
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of who Kelly is. Alternatively,
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hope that you enjoyed the show, and

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if you do, don't forget to
subscribe to Spirit Cherpa until Kelly, we

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say, hey, now, without
further ado, here is Spirit Cherpa.

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Another blood red sunset and you another
moonface and still another hundred master my next

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resting place, driving down the road, us on the rising within my car,

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but feeling and feeling strong, knowing
that this is by the morn's matter

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myself. I'm driving. Hey now
all, I'm Joey. See, welcome

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back to another episode of Spirit Chirpa. This is the show that helps and

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encourages you on your journey to unlock
your magic mojo. With me, as

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always is the Spirit Doctor Kelly Sparta. Hey, Kelly, Hey, Joey.

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This episode we're going to be hard
pressed to keep to our normal twenty

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to thirty minute time frame. Today
we're going to be talking about our psychic

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ability is actually a real thing.
Oh yeah, absolutely so. The fact

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that you're asking that question is so
funny because that's actually the question that everybody

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asks themselves when they start to do
this stuff. It's that prove it stage

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where you have to prove to yourself
that you're actually doing it and not just

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making this shut up. And then
you come across these moments that prove it

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to you. I remember the day
I proved to myself I was psychic.

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And it was a friend of mine
had cornered me. He had begged me

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to teach a class at the last
second, and I said, I'm learning

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shiatsu right now, I'll teach a
class about Shiatsu. I was like,

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you know, four weeks into my
program and he's like, okay, great,

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Well I hadn't taught a lot of
yet, and so I ran out

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of things to say. I ran
about it, out of everything I knew

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about shiatsu in an hour and a
half and it was a two hour class.

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And I was like, oh shit, now what right? And he

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said, well, you could do
readings for everybody. Now. You know,

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I've been reading tarot cards since I
was twelve, So I was like,

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yeah, you know, if I
had my cards, that would be

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one thing. But I don't have
my cards. He was like, no,

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no, just do do readings.
You do readings all the time,

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you know, because we used to
go to the Spiritualist church together and he

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there were messages from the pulpit and
and I'd always get something additional for the

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people, and I'd always give it
to them a coffee clatch, and he's

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like, you, you can do
this. So I was like, no,

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I can't do this. Oh my
god, I can't do this right.

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And I finally said, okay,
I'll do this with the understanding that

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everything that comes out of my mouth
is probably wrong, right, And they

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all said, yeah, okay,
thanks right. Well, you know,

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I was like, I was terrified. I was terrified, and I worked

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my way around the room and I
gave people information I had no right to

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know. I literally was telling people
how well their children were, what genders

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their children were, what their living
situations were, where they were going on

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vacation, what was going on in
their home life, and you know,

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describing people who would just come back
into their lives after twenty years. I

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mean, just stuff I had no
right to know. That was the day

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I proved to myself that I was
psychic. You just you can't not believe

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it in that moment when you have
nothing else to go on, or you

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know, when you go into the
astral Kathy and I, the woman I

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run my retreats with, she said, meet me at the Supernal Temple and

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we'll set up this entryway into this
ritual space. Like yeah, okay,

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and so I hop into the astral
and I realized I have no freaking clue,

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but the Supernal Temple is I've never
been there. I don't know how

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to get there. And so I
called my guide, grandmother Spider, and

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I said, you know, please
take me to the Supernal Temple. And

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so she brought me to the Supernal
Temple. We did our setup, came

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back out, and Kathy looks at
me out of the blue and says,

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what was with the spider in the
corner? And I was like, oh,

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you know, I just I didn't
know how to get there, and

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she's like, oh okay. So
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she has no way of knowing that
it's there, because it was the conversation

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I was having in my head right
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acknowledge that that's real. So you
had that moment of recognizing for you that

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it was real? Is it truly
just the aha moment? How does a

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person realize that they have psychic abilities? Sort of general? Well, if

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you have psychic abilities you kind of
know. Yeah, you know, you

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do use an ironic statement there,
You've just yeah it is you know that.

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It's just you know things that other
people don't know. You know things

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you have no right to know.
You you just know. You will try

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and talk yourself out of it.
You will try and rationalize it, you

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will try and pooh pooh it,
you will try and explained it away whatever,

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But it's there, yea. And
the more you do it with people

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you don't know, the more you
prove that you have it. Because with

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the people you know, you can
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told me some other time, right, But with people you've just met,

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like that room full of people I
was teaching, I had no idea who

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these people were. I'd never met
them before, I had no point of

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reference from them. There was no
way I could possibly have known these things.

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Right. That's how you find out
that you actually are reading the energetics

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and not what's going on. And
I get to imagine that from a personal

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blocks perspective, people need to overcome
their fear of knowing as well, fear

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of knowing and fear of getting it
wrong. Right. Remember, I gave

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myself absolute permission to screw it up. Screw it up here, right,

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you know, it's it's that fuck
it up, fucking up hard. Give

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yourself permission, because if you don't
give yourself permission to screw up, then

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you're going to be so afraid of
getting it wrong that you're going to get

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in your own way. Right,
Okay? What different types of psychic abilities?

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Not just about you know, seeing
the spider in the corner or knowing

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the age of people's kids. There's
different types, right, Yeah, there's

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all kinds of different types. In
fact, I was sitting down with one

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of my students recently and she and
I were talking about the possibility of being

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able to scan somebody's energy field to
determine what abilities they have. And I

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went to Wikipedia and I looked up
a list of psychic abilities because I wasn't

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going to sit there and try and
come up with it in my head.

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And the list was quite long,
and so I looked at her. I

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was like, Okay, this is
not a doable process for a scan,

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and I said, we need to
put these in categories. And so we

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started sitting down and looking at them
and came up with these four categories that

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really do represent four very different ways
in which you may be expressing what people

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would r two as psychic abilities.
The categories are traveler, sensor, manipulator,

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and messenger. Okay, within the
categories are different types of abilities.

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Right, So we were talking about
energy healing in the last podcast. Right,

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energy healing falls into the sensor category
because you're feeling into the body and

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you're getting a sense of what's going
on in the body and in the energy

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field. That's where mpaths are,
if you're clarivoyant or Claire assentient or Clare

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or anything. Psychometry where you're feeling
into the energy of an item to say

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whose it was, or a reading
dowsing where you're looking for water using a

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dowsing rod. Retrocognition, which is, you know, looking into the past,

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sensing into the past, seeing what
has been telepathy. Telepathy actually crosses

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a couple of different ones. But
telepathy is really a good one for sensing

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because you're feeling into what the person
is sending out, so you're trying to

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read their mind. Right. And
photography, which is projecting an image,

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burning an image onto something. Well, hold on one second for that one.

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There are you talking about actually burning
a physical image onto something in the

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physical it's it's it's just your thought. You're doing it onto film is the

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way they usually do it. But
yeahally, so you're creating a picture on

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film with just thought. Yeah,
wow, what a cool ability. Okay,

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sorry, go ahead. Yeah,
I had never heard of it.

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It was on Wikipedia, but I
was looking at it going if I were

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to do that, how would I
do that? Oh? It would be

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this way, right, And then
you know, within the messenger one is

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what we were talking about with the
Guys podcast. So your channels, people

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who are channeling their guides, who
are allowing the guides to speak through them.

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Divination where you're reaching into the Akashic
records and reading what's happening in the

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future. You're bringing the message through
automatic writing, where you're translating what your

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GUIDs are telling you onto paper.
Mediumship where you're talking for dead people,

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right, you're translating for dead people. Precognition, which is you're seeing the

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future. That one actually crosses into
another category as well, and we'll talk

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about that in a minute, and
scrying, which also crosses categories depending upon

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how you approach it. So what's
scrying Scrying is if you were to read

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a crystal ball, okay, Or
if you were to look into a bowl

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of water with a dark bottom,
that's scrying, okay, okay. Would

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things like reading tea leaves and stuff
like that be scrying as well? Reading

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tea leaves would be a It's not
technically scrying, but it's similar enough that

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you could refer to it as a
type of screwing. With regards to precognition,

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which you mentioned, you also mentioned
in the sensor category, retrocognition,

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which is looking into the past,
right, precognition is looking into the future.

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Why are those end up in different
sort of categories in that case?

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Yeah, well, and they also
end up in the traveler category too,

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because it's how you approach them.
Okay, okay. So, if you're

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a sensor and you're looking at retrocognition, right, you're going to sense into

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somebody's energy field the echoes of their
past. You're going to feel the echoes

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of what they have been through present
in their field, and that shows up

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in the form blocks. That shows
up in the form of stock energy in

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the field. You know, if
you've been traumatized, that shows up in

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your energy field, And so that's
retrocognition from that perspective is that you see

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the results of what happened and it
holds within it echoes of the past.

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It's more how you enact that ability
versus the specific ability itself, because you

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could do retrocognition where you could,
as you said, probably when you get

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into the Travelers, where you actually
go back to that point to be able

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to see it versus just to send
that something has occurred or to be told

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what has occurred as a messenger exactly
in those cases, okay, exactly,

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and that transitions us well into the
traveler category. So traveler category. I

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don't know if you watch The Magicians, but Penny is a traveler in the

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Magicians. That is a someone who
is actually teleporting. Okay, he's actually

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moving himself. And we're not talking
about this in that form of traveler.

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We're talking about traveler in terms of
sending your energy somewhere. When I do

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my energy scans, my spiritual diagnostic
energy scans, I literally I use my

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traveling ability combined with my sensorability,
and so I travel from my body to

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yours with your permission, I enter
your energy field and then I engage my

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sensorability in my mpath to read the
field itself. Okay, so it's a

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combination of two different abilities. Now, if you were too talk to me

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about someone that you were concerned about, and as you're talking to me about

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them, you think about them,
so you make an energetic connection in your

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memory to this person, I can
actually, as a traveler, follow that

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connection to them and tell you about
what's going on with them. That's another

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traveler ability where you're literally traveling places. So astral projection dream walking is a

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form of traveling remote viewing, which
is to leave your body and go look

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at another place and describe the surroundings. The government actually did a huge amount

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of studies on that in the sixties. Yeah, I was going to say,

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there was a whole program, the
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goats the movie right, is based
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we've talked about with sending your energy
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back in time. Precognition is also
included in that. What you do in

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that case is you're looking at the
probability lines of the future, and you're

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laying out the probability lines and you're
seeing which one's the most likely based on

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how it lights up, And that's
a traveler technique. The interesting thing about

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that one would be exactly what you
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not the absolute no. And in
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look, you know, I generally
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the energy of change. Yes,
and so if you're in my purview,

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it's because you're changing as a person, which means that your probability lines are

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in constant flux, which means trying
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next to impossible. So you know, I mean, can I see the

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probability lines and look at the future? Yeah, I can, but if

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you're working with me, we should
really not count on those. And again,

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scrying is the ability to sort of
read into something and then travel into

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it to see where it takes you. And then approtation and teleportation is the

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whole thing. Like Penny right,
it's the physical traveling. But you know,

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I don't know anybody who can do
that. But ultimately that would be

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the final end result of being able
to really master all of those skills.

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It's to bring it into the physical. And then the last category is manipulators,

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and that's not nearly as bad as
it sounds. These are not people

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I would typically want to but it's
manipulators. These are energy manipulators. Right.

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So telekinesis right, the ability to
move something with your mind. Pyrokinesis

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the ability to move fire with your
mind. Hydrokinesis water levitation. Photography,

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which is what we were talking about. Photography actually takes both sensor and manipulator

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to do it because you've got to
You've got to be able to feel into

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what it is that you want to
put onto the thing and then be able

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to burn it into it. Right, Magic itself is a manipulator skill.

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You have to be able to manipulate
energy in order to do magic. Shape

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shifting so changing how you look,
and I'm particularly good at that. Funny

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story years ago, I worked for
a real estate company and they asked me

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to do Happy Birthday mister President to
the president of the company, dressed like

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Marilyn Monroe, and so I could
not, for the life of me,

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find a white dress. So I
found a blonde wig, and I found

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a white shirt. I had a
white shirt and white pants, and I

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pinned the shirt down and I put
the little birthmark on my face and the

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beauty mark, and I borrowed a
piece of Marilyn Monroe's energy from the countless

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times I've seen her, and I
just wore her energy. I invoked the

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archetype of that white dress, because
everybody knows the iconic white dress, and

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I sang Happy birthday, mister President, and sat on his lap and then

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the whole nine yards. And when
I came back out from having gotten drawsed

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again and whatever, people said,
oh my god, that was amazing.

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Where'd you get the white dress?
And I was like, I was not

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wearing a dress and they were like, yes, you were like, no,

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I wasn't. Okay, I've actually
got a photo, and this is

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where archetypal energy works. I have
a photo that was taken a mean years

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ago where I'm holding a crystal ball
and it's an amethyst crystal and it's a

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black and white photo and the only
thing in color is the crystal ball,

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which is purple. And when we
took the photo, I invoked the image

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of Eve and the apple, and
I said, would you like an apple?

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And I leaned into the camera and
offered it to him with that energy,

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and I swear to you, every
person who looks at that photo sees

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an apple, despite the fact that
it's the only thing in color and it's

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purple. So in that case,
the manipulator is not in the case of

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shape shifting there or the manipulation component, it's not actually that you're changing your

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appearance or your thing. It's your
changing other's perception of your appearance. I'm

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manipulating my energy such that they perceive
that I look different. So it's sort

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of like an energetic cloaking device.
Exactly. In magical tradition, they would

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be called a glamor. Okay,
a glamour is sort of it's sort of

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like a mask, okay, but
it's more in depth than that, because

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you're actually embodying the energy, right. And so for years I lived behind

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a glamor, and I didn't even
know it because it was so important to

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me that people see me as competent
and perfect and confident and amazing, right,

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And so I lived behind this glamor
of this image of perfection, and

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I didn't realize that that's what was
going on until twice in two years,

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I cut six inches off of my
hair and no one noticed. I mean,

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I went from below shoulder length to
like right at my chin, you

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know, big. It's a big
change, right, And no one noticed.

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And when I would ask people,
I was like, did you not

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notice that I got my hair cut? They would literally squint at me like

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they were trying to see me and
trying to remember what my hair looked like

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before. And it was in those
moments that I was like, oh my

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god, they don't see me at
all, right, they have no idea

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what I actually look like because I
have this image that I'm holding so strongly

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in front of me that there's no
way they can see through it. The

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last one, I just want to
hit the last one in the manipulators.

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The last one is time shifting.
So if you've ever intended to be on

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time and arrived on time when there
was no way you could possibly have gotten

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there in that time frame, you've
time shifted. I have once driven from

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Boston to the middle of New Jersey, which should take about five and a

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half hours, and I did it
in three and a half. Okay,

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that's time shifting. Can time shifting
go the other way as well? My

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shaman swears that if you time shift, then you end up paying the price

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at another time. I have not
had that experience, but yes, you

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it could. Ironically, I will
say that I've had a personal experience before.

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I was driving what should have been
a thirty minute drive, and I

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actually arrived forty five minutes laked.
I didn't stop, I didn't pull over.

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I was driving my normal route.
There was no traffic. How did

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that happen? So you're saying it
took you an hour and fifteen, yes,

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to do a thirty five minute drive? Yeah, I know some people

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who would say that you had an
alien alien That's exactly what I said.

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That was exactly. That's so funny. I'm like, I'm like, I

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was abducted by aliens. I know
I was. I don't remember it.

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But how else can I explain that? Because I didn't go anywhere. There

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would be people who would say that, yes, and could times shift in

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the other direction? Yeah I can. I can't. Well, there was

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no intention. I'll tell you that
right now. So then it's the alien

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abduction is more likely. Well,
there we go, aren't you excited?

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Yeah? Yeah, let's transition into
the Ask Kelly, because I do have

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a question for you for in the
Ask Kelly section, We've just talked over

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the four different categories traveler, manipulator, sensor, messenger. If a person

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feels that they have some of these
psychic abilities, and they've removed that fear

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block, they removed all of those
things that would stop them, how can

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they actually work towards improving or expanding
upon what they can do, even if

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it's within a specific item that like
you had mentioned before, or to maybe

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more of the catalog in the type
that they fall into. Yeah, So

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the short answer is practice makes perfect. Psychic abilities are muscles like anything else.

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If you work them out, they
get stronger. If you don't work

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with the atrophy, all right,
So the more you do it, the

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stronger you'll get. The one thing
I would say is that some of these

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skills are more dangerous than others.
So, for instance, channeling is something

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that could be very dangerous if you're
not careful, because you're you're handing over

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access to running your body to something
else and someone else. And so you

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know, if you're starting to work
at a level where where there's either a

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physical danger or an energetic danger,
then I would really highly recommend that you

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get trained before you practice. You
know, we talked about the guy in

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one of the other episodes, who
was astually traveling without setting a safe container.

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That can be very dangerous. You
know, at the very least,

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read up on what you're doing to
get some sense of what's going on with

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it and whether or not there's there's
safety concerns to be had. You know,

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read eight or ten different websites.
There's probably a good chance that if

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there's a safety concern, somebody's going
to say something, and then you know,

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practice practice, practice, So that's
really what it comes down to for

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these The interesting thing is that sensors
are more kinesthetic, okay, and messengers

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are often more auditory, and manipulators
are more visual and kinesthetic. Yeah,

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and travelers are a lot of it's
visual and kinesthetic combined as well. So

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depending upon your learning style and your
your default way of being, you may

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have more naturally accessible skills from one
of these categories because of that, And

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it's possible for people to cross over
into multiple multiple types. Oh yeah,

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I do all four of these.
Yeah. Yeah, So not everybody does,

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but but many people have at least
two or three yep. But in

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some cases people it's not that everybody
has to be able to do all four

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people may have, as you said, natural sort of tendencies to be stronger

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and some more than others. Yes, absolutely, and you will be stronger

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and some more than others. I
mean, the reason that I can do

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all four of these is because I've
been practicing it for twenty years. When

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I first started, I was very
much a censor, right. I had

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to develop all the other skills because
you're a strong EmPATH, and that gave

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you that sort of natural landing place
to start exactly. So don't feel like

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you have to get into all four
categories at once. Give yourself time,

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and I would say really focus.
If you take a scattershot approach, you're

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not going to get to the prove
a stage very quickly because you're going to

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have a little bit of here and
a little bit of there and a little

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bit of there, and will maybe
kind of sort of I can do this

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because you're going to all your muscles
are going to be a little weak.

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Yeah, But if you focus and
you pick one or two things to really

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focus on and build those muscles really
strongly, you're going to be able to

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prove to yourself that you can do
this, and that will provide you with

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the motivation to get really good at
everything else. Okay, so that would

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be my suggestion just from a personal
journey perspective. That's also a good opportunity

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for them to focus on what they're
feeling and seeing rather than just on the

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abilities, actually focus on themselves to
a little bit and what's there underneath all

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of it, because no matter what
abilities a person may have, it always

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comes back to who they are ultimately
and believing in themselves. Right, and

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your access to your abilities is going
to be limited by those limiting beliefs that

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we talked about earlier. Right,
If you've got a block that says I

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can't own my power, I can't
be trusted with my power, then you're

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never going to let yourself get very
good at it. Yeah right, you

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know, it's just the nature of
the beast. If you're afraid that the

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universe is going to show you that
you're going to die or somebody else is

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going to die, then you're never
going to give yourself permission to see what

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you can see in the future,
you know that sort of stuff. Cool.

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Is there stuff that you have that
will help people in this sense or

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in this space, or is there
anything you want to suggest to people.

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Well, you know, the magical
side of the Mastering Spiritual Evolution program goes

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into a lot of this stuff and
it's you know, it doesn't go in

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depth into it because it's it's the
first level, but it gives you the

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introductory points to be able to understand
the different pieces and parts. So we

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do talk about a wide variety of
this sort of stuff and how to access

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it for your own benefit. Obviously, the first two years are all about

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being able to do your own work
and do it most effectively. So what

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we really focus on is the messenger
stuff with how do you talk to your

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guides and how do you get in
touch with yourself and your higher self and

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how do you identify your own blocks
and how do you really work through your

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own healing process and stuff like that. So it's really self focused for the

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first couple of years, and then
the second couple of years are all about

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being able to do stuff with others
right and for others. So you know,

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it is a gradual process, as
it should be, right because you

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have to develop your skills, and
you want to focus in order to develop

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the skills really effective. Right,
So if people want to check out the

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Mastering Spiritual Evolution Class. They can
go to your website and get more information.

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But we have talked about that in
other episodes, and my guess is

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that we're going to talk about that
and plenty of episodes because that really ties

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into a lot of the work that
you do as a transformational Shamans and the

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work that people can do to help
drive that, and the tie in there

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to the magical aspect of it that's
also there, yeah as well. And

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you know it's I've spent my entire
life really studying how people grow and change.

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This program is ten years worth of
personal growth work in a single year.

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One year. Yeah, so it's
intense, but it's awesome, excellent.

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That's all that we have time for
this week. Thanks everybody for joining.

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