Bonus Episode: Spirit Sherpa Feed Drop

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0:45 You may have heard her on our show before in the episode The Overachiever's Guide to Nailing your Spiritual Growth in Record Time. If you have not listened to that show, recommend you go to that right now so you get an understanding of who Kelly is. Alternatively, just listen to this bonus feed drop that we're about to give you. We hope that you enjoyed the show, and if you do, don't forget to subscribe to Spirit Cherpa until Kelly, we say, hey, now, without further ado, here is Spirit Cherpa. Another blood red sunset and you another moonface and still another hundred master my next resting place, driving down the road, us on the rising within my car, but feeling and feeling strong, knowing that this is by the morn's matter myself. I'm driving. Hey now all, I'm Joey. See, welcome back to another episode of Spirit Chirpa. This is the show that helps and encourages you on your journey to unlock your magic mojo. With me, as always is the Spirit Doctor Kelly Sparta. Hey, Kelly, Hey, Joey.

2:01 This episode we're going to be hard pressed to keep to our normal twenty to thirty minute time frame. Today we're going to be talking about our psychic ability is actually a real thing. Oh yeah, absolutely so. The fact that you're asking that question is so funny because that's actually the question that everybody asks themselves when they start to do this stuff. It's that prove it stage where you have to prove to yourself that you're actually doing it and not just making this shut up. And then you come across these moments that prove it to you. I remember the day I proved to myself I was psychic.

2:43 And it was a friend of mine had cornered me. He had begged me to teach a class at the last second, and I said, I'm learning shiatsu right now, I'll teach a class about Shiatsu. I was like, you know, four weeks into my program and he's like, okay, great, Well I hadn't taught a lot of yet, and so I ran out of things to say. I ran about it, out of everything I knew about shiatsu in an hour and a half and it was a two hour class. And I was like, oh shit, now what right? And he said, well, you could do readings for everybody. Now. You know, I've been reading tarot cards since I was twelve, So I was like, yeah, you know, if I had my cards, that would be one thing. But I don't have my cards. He was like, no, no, just do do readings. You do readings all the time, you know, because we used to go to the Spiritualist church together and he there were messages from the pulpit and and I'd always get something additional for the people, and I'd always give it to them a coffee clatch, and he's like, you, you can do this. So I was like, no, I can't do this. Oh my god, I can't do this right.

3:38 And I finally said, okay, I'll do this with the understanding that everything that comes out of my mouth is probably wrong, right, And they all said, yeah, okay, thanks right. Well, you know, I was like, I was terrified. I was terrified, and I worked my way around the room and I gave people information I had no right to know. I literally was telling people how well their children were, what genders their children were, what their living situations were, where they were going on vacation, what was going on in their home life, and you know, describing people who would just come back into their lives after twenty years. I mean, just stuff I had no right to know. That was the day I proved to myself that I was psychic. You just you can't not believe it in that moment when you have nothing else to go on, or you know, when you go into the astral Kathy and I, the woman I run my retreats with, she said, meet me at the Supernal Temple and we'll set up this entryway into this ritual space. Like yeah, okay, and so I hop into the astral and I realized I have no freaking clue, but the Supernal Temple is I've never been there. I don't know how to get there. And so I called my guide, grandmother Spider, and I said, you know, please take me to the Supernal Temple. And so she brought me to the Supernal Temple. We did our setup, came back out, and Kathy looks at me out of the blue and says, what was with the spider in the corner? And I was like, oh,

5:08 you know, I just I didn't know how to get there, and she's like, oh okay. So but you know when she sees something that she has no way of knowing that it's there, because it was the conversation I was having in my head right then, you know, you have to acknowledge that that's real. So you had that moment of recognizing for you that it was real? Is it truly just the aha moment? How does a person realize that they have psychic abilities? Sort of general? Well, if you have psychic abilities you kind of know. Yeah, you know, you do use an ironic statement there, You've just yeah it is you know that. It's just you know things that other people don't know. You know things you have no right to know. You you just know. You will try and talk yourself out of it. You will try and rationalize it, you will try and pooh pooh it, you will try and explained it away whatever, But it's there, yea. And the more you do it with people you don't know, the more you prove that you have it. Because with the people you know, you can say, oh, well they must have told me some other time, right, But with people you've just met, like that room full of people I was teaching, I had no idea who these people were. I'd never met them before, I had no point of reference from them. There was no way I could possibly have known these things.

6:27 Right. That's how you find out that you actually are reading the energetics and not what's going on. And I get to imagine that from a personal blocks perspective, people need to overcome their fear of knowing as well, fear of knowing and fear of getting it wrong. Right. Remember, I gave myself absolute permission to screw it up. Screw it up here, right, you know, it's it's that fuck it up, fucking up hard. Give yourself permission, because if you don't give yourself permission to screw up, then you're going to be so afraid of getting it wrong that you're going to get in your own way. Right, Okay? What different types of psychic abilities? Not just about you know, seeing the spider in the corner or knowing the age of people's kids. There's different types, right, Yeah, there's all kinds of different types. In fact, I was sitting down with one of my students recently and she and I were talking about the possibility of being able to scan somebody's energy field to determine what abilities they have. And I went to Wikipedia and I looked up a list of psychic abilities because I wasn't going to sit there and try and come up with it in my head.

7:32 And the list was quite long, and so I looked at her. I was like, Okay, this is not a doable process for a scan, and I said, we need to put these in categories. And so we started sitting down and looking at them and came up with these four categories that really do represent four very different ways in which you may be expressing what people would r two as psychic abilities. The categories are traveler, sensor, manipulator, and messenger. Okay, within the categories are different types of abilities.

8:13 Right, So we were talking about energy healing in the last podcast. Right, energy healing falls into the sensor category because you're feeling into the body and you're getting a sense of what's going on in the body and in the energy field. That's where mpaths are, if you're clarivoyant or Claire assentient or Clare or anything. Psychometry where you're feeling into the energy of an item to say whose it was, or a reading dowsing where you're looking for water using a dowsing rod. Retrocognition, which is, you know, looking into the past, sensing into the past, seeing what has been telepathy. Telepathy actually crosses a couple of different ones. But telepathy is really a good one for sensing because you're feeling into what the person is sending out, so you're trying to read their mind. Right. And photography, which is projecting an image, burning an image onto something. Well, hold on one second for that one.

9:13 There are you talking about actually burning a physical image onto something in the physical it's it's it's just your thought. You're doing it onto film is the way they usually do it. But yeahally, so you're creating a picture on film with just thought. Yeah, wow, what a cool ability. Okay, sorry, go ahead. Yeah, I had never heard of it. It was on Wikipedia, but I was looking at it going if I were to do that, how would I do that? Oh? It would be this way, right, And then you know, within the messenger one is what we were talking about with the Guys podcast. So your channels, people who are channeling their guides, who are allowing the guides to speak through them. Divination where you're reaching into the Akashic records and reading what's happening in the future. You're bringing the message through automatic writing, where you're translating what your GUIDs are telling you onto paper. Mediumship where you're talking for dead people, right, you're translating for dead people. Precognition, which is you're seeing the future. That one actually crosses into another category as well, and we'll talk about that in a minute, and scrying, which also crosses categories depending upon how you approach it. So what's scrying Scrying is if you were to read a crystal ball, okay, Or if you were to look into a bowl of water with a dark bottom, that's scrying, okay, okay. Would things like reading tea leaves and stuff like that be scrying as well? Reading tea leaves would be a It's not technically scrying, but it's similar enough that

10:46 you could refer to it as a type of screwing. With regards to precognition, which you mentioned, you also mentioned in the sensor category, retrocognition, which is looking into the past, right, precognition is looking into the future. Why are those end up in different sort of categories in that case? Yeah, well, and they also end up in the traveler category too, because it's how you approach them. Okay, okay. So, if you're a sensor and you're looking at retrocognition, right, you're going to sense into somebody's energy field the echoes of their past. You're going to feel the echoes of what they have been through present in their field, and that shows up in the form blocks. That shows up in the form of stock energy in the field. You know, if you've been traumatized, that shows up in your energy field, And so that's retrocognition from that perspective is that you see the results of what happened and it holds within it echoes of the past.

11:45 It's more how you enact that ability versus the specific ability itself, because you could do retrocognition where you could, as you said, probably when you get into the Travelers, where you actually go back to that point to be able to see it versus just to send that something has occurred or to be told what has occurred as a messenger exactly in those cases, okay, exactly, and that transitions us well into the traveler category. So traveler category. I don't know if you watch The Magicians, but Penny is a traveler in the Magicians. That is a someone who is actually teleporting. Okay, he's actually moving himself. And we're not talking about this in that form of traveler.

12:28 We're talking about traveler in terms of sending your energy somewhere. When I do my energy scans, my spiritual diagnostic energy scans, I literally I use my traveling ability combined with my sensorability, and so I travel from my body to yours with your permission, I enter your energy field and then I engage my sensorability in my mpath to read the field itself. Okay, so it's a combination of two different abilities. Now, if you were too talk to me about someone that you were concerned about, and as you're talking to me about them, you think about them, so you make an energetic connection in your memory to this person, I can actually, as a traveler, follow that connection to them and tell you about what's going on with them. That's another traveler ability where you're literally traveling places. So astral projection dream walking is a form of traveling remote viewing, which is to leave your body and go look at another place and describe the surroundings. The government actually did a huge amount of studies on that in the sixties. Yeah, I was going to say, there was a whole program, the whole program that men who Talk to goats the movie right, is based on that mental projection, which is what we've talked about with sending your energy out retrocognition, which is sending your energy back in time. Precognition is also included in that. What you do in

14:00 that case is you're looking at the probability lines of the future, and you're laying out the probability lines and you're seeing which one's the most likely based on how it lights up, And that's a traveler technique. The interesting thing about that one would be exactly what you said, the probability lines. So it's not the absolute no. And in fact I tell people, I said, look, you know, I generally don't bother reading the future because I carry the energy of change. Yes, and so if you're in my purview, it's because you're changing as a person, which means that your probability lines are in constant flux, which means trying to read the future with me around is next to impossible. So you know, I mean, can I see the probability lines and look at the future? Yeah, I can, but if you're working with me, we should really not count on those. And again, scrying is the ability to sort of read into something and then travel into it to see where it takes you. And then approtation and teleportation is the whole thing. Like Penny right, it's the physical traveling. But you know, I don't know anybody who can do that. But ultimately that would be the final end result of being able to really master all of those skills.

15:13 It's to bring it into the physical. And then the last category is manipulators, and that's not nearly as bad as it sounds. These are not people I would typically want to but it's manipulators. These are energy manipulators. Right. So telekinesis right, the ability to move something with your mind. Pyrokinesis the ability to move fire with your mind. Hydrokinesis water levitation. Photography, which is what we were talking about. Photography actually takes both sensor and manipulator to do it because you've got to You've got to be able to feel into what it is that you want to put onto the thing and then be able to burn it into it. Right, Magic itself is a manipulator skill.

15:58 You have to be able to manipulate energy in order to do magic. Shape shifting so changing how you look, and I'm particularly good at that. Funny story years ago, I worked for a real estate company and they asked me to do Happy Birthday mister President to the president of the company, dressed like Marilyn Monroe, and so I could not, for the life of me, find a white dress. So I found a blonde wig, and I found a white shirt. I had a white shirt and white pants, and I pinned the shirt down and I put the little birthmark on my face and the beauty mark, and I borrowed a piece of Marilyn Monroe's energy from the countless times I've seen her, and I just wore her energy. I invoked the archetype of that white dress, because everybody knows the iconic white dress, and I sang Happy birthday, mister President, and sat on his lap and then the whole nine yards. And when I came back out from having gotten drawsed again and whatever, people said, oh my god, that was amazing.

17:03 Where'd you get the white dress? And I was like, I was not wearing a dress and they were like, yes, you were like, no, I wasn't. Okay, I've actually got a photo, and this is where archetypal energy works. I have a photo that was taken a mean years ago where I'm holding a crystal ball and it's an amethyst crystal and it's a black and white photo and the only thing in color is the crystal ball, which is purple. And when we took the photo, I invoked the image of Eve and the apple, and I said, would you like an apple? And I leaned into the camera and offered it to him with that energy, and I swear to you, every person who looks at that photo sees an apple, despite the fact that it's the only thing in color and it's purple. So in that case, the manipulator is not in the case of shape shifting there or the manipulation component, it's not actually that you're changing your appearance or your thing. It's your changing other's perception of your appearance. I'm manipulating my energy such that they perceive that I look different. So it's sort of like an energetic cloaking device. Exactly. In magical tradition, they would be called a glamor. Okay, a glamour is sort of it's sort of like a mask, okay, but it's more in depth than that, because you're actually embodying the energy, right. And so for years I lived behind

18:33 a glamor, and I didn't even know it because it was so important to me that people see me as competent and perfect and confident and amazing, right, And so I lived behind this glamor of this image of perfection, and I didn't realize that that's what was going on until twice in two years, I cut six inches off of my hair and no one noticed. I mean, I went from below shoulder length to like right at my chin, you know, big. It's a big change, right, And no one noticed. And when I would ask people, I was like, did you not notice that I got my hair cut? They would literally squint at me like they were trying to see me and trying to remember what my hair looked like before. And it was in those moments that I was like, oh my god, they don't see me at all, right, they have no idea what I actually look like because I have this image that I'm holding so strongly in front of me that there's no way they can see through it. The last one, I just want to hit the last one in the manipulators.

19:41 The last one is time shifting. So if you've ever intended to be on time and arrived on time when there was no way you could possibly have gotten there in that time frame, you've time shifted. I have once driven from Boston to the middle of New Jersey, which should take about five and a half hours, and I did it in three and a half. Okay, that's time shifting. Can time shifting go the other way as well? My shaman swears that if you time shift, then you end up paying the price at another time. I have not had that experience, but yes, you it could. Ironically, I will say that I've had a personal experience before. I was driving what should have been a thirty minute drive, and I actually arrived forty five minutes laked. I didn't stop, I didn't pull over.

20:29 I was driving my normal route. There was no traffic. How did that happen? So you're saying it took you an hour and fifteen, yes, to do a thirty five minute drive? Yeah, I know some people who would say that you had an alien alien That's exactly what I said. That was exactly. That's so funny. I'm like, I'm like, I was abducted by aliens. I know I was. I don't remember it. But how else can I explain that? Because I didn't go anywhere. There would be people who would say that, yes, and could times shift in the other direction? Yeah I can. I can't. Well, there was no intention. I'll tell you that right now. So then it's the alien abduction is more likely. Well, there we go, aren't you excited?

21:11 Yeah? Yeah, let's transition into the Ask Kelly, because I do have a question for you for in the Ask Kelly section, We've just talked over the four different categories traveler, manipulator, sensor, messenger. If a person feels that they have some of these psychic abilities, and they've removed that fear block, they removed all of those things that would stop them, how can they actually work towards improving or expanding upon what they can do, even if it's within a specific item that like you had mentioned before, or to maybe more of the catalog in the type that they fall into. Yeah, So the short answer is practice makes perfect. Psychic abilities are muscles like anything else.

21:56 If you work them out, they get stronger. If you don't work with the atrophy, all right, So the more you do it, the stronger you'll get. The one thing I would say is that some of these skills are more dangerous than others. So, for instance, channeling is something that could be very dangerous if you're not careful, because you're you're handing over access to running your body to something else and someone else. And so you know, if you're starting to work at a level where where there's either a physical danger or an energetic danger, then I would really highly recommend that you get trained before you practice. You know, we talked about the guy in one of the other episodes, who was astually traveling without setting a safe container.

22:42 That can be very dangerous. You know, at the very least, read up on what you're doing to get some sense of what's going on with it and whether or not there's there's safety concerns to be had. You know, read eight or ten different websites. There's probably a good chance that if there's a safety concern, somebody's going to say something, and then you know, practice practice, practice, So that's really what it comes down to for these The interesting thing is that sensors are more kinesthetic, okay, and messengers are often more auditory, and manipulators are more visual and kinesthetic. Yeah, and travelers are a lot of it's visual and kinesthetic combined as well. So depending upon your learning style and your your default way of being, you may have more naturally accessible skills from one of these categories because of that, And it's possible for people to cross over into multiple multiple types. Oh yeah, I do all four of these. Yeah. Yeah, So not everybody does, but but many people have at least two or three yep. But in some cases people it's not that everybody has to be able to do all four people may have, as you said, natural sort of tendencies to be stronger and some more than others. Yes, absolutely, and you will be stronger and some more than others. I mean, the reason that I can do all four of these is because I've been practicing it for twenty years. When

24:14 I first started, I was very much a censor, right. I had to develop all the other skills because you're a strong EmPATH, and that gave you that sort of natural landing place to start exactly. So don't feel like you have to get into all four categories at once. Give yourself time, and I would say really focus. If you take a scattershot approach, you're not going to get to the prove a stage very quickly because you're going to have a little bit of here and a little bit of there and a little bit of there, and will maybe kind of sort of I can do this because you're going to all your muscles are going to be a little weak. Yeah, But if you focus and you pick one or two things to really focus on and build those muscles really strongly, you're going to be able to prove to yourself that you can do this, and that will provide you with the motivation to get really good at everything else. Okay, so that would be my suggestion just from a personal journey perspective. That's also a good opportunity for them to focus on what they're feeling and seeing rather than just on the abilities, actually focus on themselves to a little bit and what's there underneath all of it, because no matter what abilities a person may have, it always comes back to who they are ultimately and believing in themselves. Right, and your access to your abilities is going to be limited by those limiting beliefs that we talked about earlier. Right, If you've got a block that says I can't own my power, I can't be trusted with my power, then you're never going to let yourself get very good at it. Yeah right, you know, it's just the nature of the beast. If you're afraid that the universe is going to show you that you're going to die or somebody else is going to die, then you're never going to give yourself permission to see what

25:44 you can see in the future, you know that sort of stuff. Cool. Is there stuff that you have that will help people in this sense or in this space, or is there anything you want to suggest to people. Well, you know, the magical side of the Mastering Spiritual Evolution program goes into a lot of this stuff and it's you know, it doesn't go in depth into it because it's it's the first level, but it gives you the introductory points to be able to understand the different pieces and parts. So we do talk about a wide variety of this sort of stuff and how to access it for your own benefit. Obviously, the first two years are all about being able to do your own work and do it most effectively. So what we really focus on is the messenger stuff with how do you talk to your guides and how do you get in touch with yourself and your higher self and how do you identify your own blocks and how do you really work through your own healing process and stuff like that. So it's really self focused for the first couple of years, and then the second couple of years are all about being able to do stuff with others right and for others. So you know, it is a gradual process, as it should be, right because you have to develop your skills, and you want to focus in order to develop the skills really effective. Right, So if people want to check out the Mastering Spiritual Evolution Class. They can go to your website and get more information.

27:07 But we have talked about that in other episodes, and my guess is that we're going to talk about that and plenty of episodes because that really ties into a lot of the work that you do as a transformational Shamans and the work that people can do to help drive that, and the tie in there to the magical aspect of it that's also there, yeah as well. And you know it's I've spent my entire life really studying how people grow and change. This program is ten years worth of personal growth work in a single year. One year. Yeah, so it's intense, but it's awesome, excellent. That's all that we have time for this week. Thanks everybody for joining.

27:47 Be sure to join next week as Kelly adds another chapter into your Beginner's Guide to Energy, Magic and the Spirit World. I'm Joey see You're worth Kelly Sparta and you have been listening to spirit. Thanks everyone, have go on each fla travel over thirteen thousand now so behind a little few Spirit Trippa. It's a sole property of Kelly Sparta Enterprises and it's distributed under Creative Commons by dash NC dash ND four point zero license. For more information about this licensing, please go to Creative Commons dot org. Any request for deviations to this licensing should be sent to k E l l E at k E l l E spa Arta dot com. That's Kelly at Kelly Sparta dot com.

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