Why Everything You've Been Told About Manifesting Is Incomplete

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Karen, we have all heard ad nauseam that thing about manifesting.

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Which thing?

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I think positive thoughts, visualize what you want, put it out to universe and boom,

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done, easy.

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Sure.

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Right?

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Well, it turns out we kind of been doing it wrong.

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That explains our whole life.

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It does, right?

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Well, thankfully today's gas is going to flip the whole thing upside down.

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And honestly, once she explains it, you're going to wonder why nobody else has said it

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this way before because it's not about sending us again.

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No, out.

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It's about learning how to receive one that's already there.

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Oh.

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Mm-hmm.

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We're talking ancient Jewish mysticism, modern neuroscience, and a radio metaphor that's

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going to live rent-free in your head for the rest of the week.

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And by the time we're done, you're going to know exactly why your nervous system has

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been the main thing standing between you and everything that you want.

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And I didn't even know it was.

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And it went to actually do about it, too.

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So stick around this one.

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It's going to be good.

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My name is Will.

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And I'm Garrett.

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And unlike Moldor and Scully, both want to believe.

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So we've embarked on a journey of discovery.

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We've talked to people deeply entrenched in the spiritual and metaphysical world.

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We've thrown ourselves into weird and wonderful experiences.

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I even joined a covenant with you.

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And, wait.

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You joined a covenant?

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Yep.

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All in the interest of fighting something.

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Anything.

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That will prove that there's something beyond this physical.

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Three-dimensional world we all live in.

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This is the skeptic metaphyshians.

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So I'm genuinely excited about this.

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What if someone who had already died sat down and wrote you a book about the experience?

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Not the near-death experience itself, not a vision, a full memoir, dictated from the other

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side, describing an extraordinary detail exactly what it feels like to leave your body,

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also over, visit your own funeral, and settle into whatever comes next.

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The colors that don't exist here, the music, the buildings.

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Well, that book, my friend, exists.

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It's called My Life After Death, a memoir from heaven.

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And it was written by a 20-year-old named Eric Mehthous, channeled through a medium,

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word by word, to his mother.

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The best book in the genre, they call it the best book they've ever read.

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Period.

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Now, I'm excited about it because it's the closest we're probably ever going to get to

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knowing what actually happens when we cross over.

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Before we actually cross over.

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Well now, Dr. Alisa Mehthous has graciously, generously, made the digital copy of the book

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available to every skeptic-medifications listener, completely for free, if they wanted.

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So to get yours, all you need to do is go to skepticmedificition.com/newsletter and join

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our community.

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After that, it'll be waiting in your inbox.

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I can't wait for you to read this book.

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It is literally blowing my mind.

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I'm reading it right now.

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I can't put it down.

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So skepticmedificition.com/newsletter joined our community, start reading the book, and

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then let me know what you think of it because I'm amazed.

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I am sure you will be too.

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Hey, there are Will.

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And I'm Karen.

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Welcome back to the skeptic-medifications where today we finally find out why your manifestations

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may have gone straight to the spam filter.

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Wow.

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So, quick show of hands.

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How many of you have you heard of manifesting?

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Right?

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All of us.

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How many of us have tried it and thought, "This kind of field made up."

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Also, all of us, I see you.

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They're half ahead.

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Well, here's the thing.

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You weren't wrong to be skeptical.

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You were just working within complete information.

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See, I guess, it's going to make a distinction that nobody in this space makes clearly enough.

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Once you hear it, the whole conversation about manifestation, about abundance, about why

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some people seem to effortlessly attract what they want, or the rest of us are over

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here making vision boards and hoping for the best, they'd all click differently.

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She has 45 million podcasts downloads.

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A USA Today bestselling book, and she spent three years studying ancient Jewish mysticism

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in Jerusalem, not on a spa retreat, in Jerusalem, during a war.

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Wow.

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So, yeah, she's got the receipts.

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Kathy Heller is here with us on the skeptic-medifications.

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Kathy, how are you doing today?

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First of all, you guys are so adorable.

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You are so adorable.

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That was so much fun.

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I'm here for this.

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I'm good.

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I'm great.

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It's so nice to be with both of you.

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Wow.

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We're excited.

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I'm super excited.

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I've heard you on a lot of shows.

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I've heard you on your show.

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And your message is just literally breathtaking.

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I was driving home from work on date when I heard your show, your message, and I had to pull

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over and send you a message right away to get you on our show because holy cow.

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Oh.

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That means so much to me.

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That's such a powerful.

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A little moment that I could be a part of for you.

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Especially because he was on a bridge, now I'm kidding.

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You should see me hanging from there.

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That was pretty interesting.

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Kathy, honestly, it was super powerful.

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It was super powerful.

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So, I just want to dive right into it.

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I'd be usually doing a show.

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Kathy, when most people hear manifesting, their skeptic alarm goes off because it sounds

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like wish hard enough and stuff is going to appear, right?

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Your framework is actually quite different.

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It's a tuning model, not a creation model.

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Can you make that distinction more concrete for us?

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Because I think everything is about how you engage in these ideas.

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I totally need it to know.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Sure.

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So, when I was first studying the ideas of manifestation, this was like in the early 2000s,

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people were talking about the law of attraction.

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And I thought it was really interesting.

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And it kind of made sense because it was talking about this idea of like, what's magnetic?

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You know, like, and what is it about us that sends something out that becomes magnetic,

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right?

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And it kind of gets you to really think about things in an interesting and exciting way.

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And there was something to that.

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And then when I was in Israel, I was studying in Jerusalem.

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It's an amazing story of how I even got there because I got lost in Orlando.

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And I wound up meeting a cobalist, like, of course, likely story.

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And I was at that point, you know, 19 years old, had never really sunk my teeth into what

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are the laws of the universe?

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Is there a God?

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Am I connected to this, you know, force?

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None of that.

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I was just like a 19 year old kid and happened to bump into him.

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And this was like the alchemist, like, you know, name a book that goes on the hero's journey.

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And he said, I'd love to invite you to join my wife and me and my seven children.

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You could come for the summer.

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And I was like, what does he want from me?

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Like, what?

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I'm in it.

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I'm in it.

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And so he also, it's funny.

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I have freckles and reddish hair.

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He has freckles and reddish hair.

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And I felt like he was like this father that like I had never had.

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And he was so loving and the love was so unconditional and so present.

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And it really moved me.

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And his wife is incredible.

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And I felt so blown away by the two of them and the way they loved their children.

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And they were like, well, you're graduating college next year.

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Why don't you come the summer after college?

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And I figured, that's not a bad idea.

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I didn't have any plans anyway.

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So my maids will go and I thought I was going to go for three weeks.

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I said, I'll come for three weeks.

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And they said, great.

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So I arrived in Jerusalem, you know, three weeks.

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And you know, I'm thinking like, I'll have some full of all.

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I'll have a little flimus in life.

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Pictures and I'll leave, you know.

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And I wound up having conversation after conversation with him and I couldn't stop crying.

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And I think tears happen when our soul recognizes the truth.

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It just moves you.

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It's not something you could put into words.

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And the first thing he said to me, we were sitting outside on his porch overlooking the

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old city of Jerusalem.

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And he said, you know, you are a masterpiece because you're a piece of the master.

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I mean, how does that not make you cry?

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Wow.

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Definitely.

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And he said it and he meant it.

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And because he said it and he meant it, I believed it.

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And he said, you know, you're someone because you're some of the one.

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And the thing about even the question you asked me is that most people, when they're asking

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these questions about manifestation, they're looking in the wrong place.

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Where are they looking?

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Outside of themself.

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There is everything within you.

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And so the first lesson from Rabbi David Aaron was it's always inside of you.

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And he said to me like this, he said, listen, God is God, but I'm going to give you a metaphor.

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He said, if God was the son, which God is in, but he said, let's say God was the son, you'd

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be a ray of that light.

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Does that make sense?

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And it started to make sense, right?

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And there's this beautiful story that Gary Zuckov told me years later.

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And he said, I think it's from a Native American tribe and I forgot which tribe it is.

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But he said the story is teaching a similar point, which is that I guess God comes to the animals

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and said, I want people to become seekers, right?

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And we all know that every great story is about a seeker, you know, someone who goes on the

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journey, you know, even a karate kid like he is a seeker, right?

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And he finds his sense, right?

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Because he's seeking something bigger.

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And so God says the animals, I want people to become seekers.

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And so he said, I'm going to hide until they've had the satisfaction to find me.

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And so one of the animals is a bear and the bear says, let me take you and I'll take all

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the answers in the universe and I'll take you deep, deep deep into the woods.

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And God said, no, they'll get there pretty quickly.

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They'll find me in the woods.

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So the eagle says, God, I will take you and all the answers in the universe and I will fly

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as high as I can.

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And God says, no, they're really smart.

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They'll get there real fast.

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And then the mole, who apparently in the story, maybe I don't know enough about animals,

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but she's blind.

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Yeah.

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And she walks up to God and she says, she whispers and she says, put it inside of them because

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it's the last place to ever think to love.

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And God says, that's it.

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That's it.

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And that is every story.

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Everyone's listening to a podcast.

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What do I need to do?

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Scroll in their phone.

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What am I going to find on Instagram that gives me the answer?

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And all the time.

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You have inside of you, I was just interviewing my friend Dr. Lisa Miller who was incredible.

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She's at Columbia.

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She spent 30 years studying what happens to the brain and the body when we have a connection

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to our spiritual life.

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It's amazing.

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And she said, we now know the mind, what we think of as the mind has no answers.

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All the answers are in the heart.

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And the whole purpose of the mind, she said, and she studies this on MRIs, is that inside

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of the center of the brain is an antenna that leads us to connect to our intuition, which

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is in the brain.

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It's not actually in the mind.

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It's that we are connected to where all the actual wisdom is.

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It kind of moves through us like a radio, which is amazing.

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So now I'm going back to Jerusalem.

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Go, let's go back.

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I feel like Wayne in Wayne and Garth.

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It's like, didn't you?

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It's going to be a deal.

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It's going to be a deal.

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So now we're back in Jerusalem.

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So back to 2001.

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And Robby Aaron says, let me explain it like this.

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He said, you've heard of the law of attraction.

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I said, yeah.

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So what we know from scripture is that Abraham said it differently.

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Moses, Jacob, I said, they say it differently.

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It's not the law of attraction.

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I said, so what is it?

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He said, the law of reception.

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Because the words in Judaism, this is why I started learning Hebrew because I wanted to

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actually know what is the language that Moses spoke, that Jesus spoke.

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I want to know the works.

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I want to actually, because sometimes the translation is not, in fact, even though the word for Shabbat

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which is the Sabbath, it means to meditate.

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We say it means to rest.

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Well, if you're in a meditation and you fall asleep, is that a good meditation?

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No, it's actually tightly awake, but very connected.

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That's different.

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That's a different word, right?

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That's right.

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So I started studying Hebrew because I was like, I want to actually, I want to understand

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it, not somebody who translated it 15,000 times later.

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What is the word meat?

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So he said the words that we were given, the word Kabbalah, for instance, means Lecabelle

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means to receive.

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He said, our only job is to be a receiver because all of it, he said, is already hidden in

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plain sight.

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So for instance, first of all, going back to your question, when people talk about manifestation,

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they are doing what?

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They are looking at the evidence of their life and then asking for what they want that

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they perceive is not there.

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But the eyes don't see.

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We don't see with our eyes.

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We see with our soul.

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How do we know that?

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Because when John F. Kennedy said, we're going to land a man on the moon, that's vision,

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visual vision is something further than what you see with the naked eye.

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People who have changed the world when Steve Jobs came up with this idea for Apple, that's

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a vision.

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When Walt Disney saw this world, Disney world, before it was a Disney world, it was a swamp

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in Anaheim, but it wasn't a swamp to him.

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He had the vision and he sold air.

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He sold a vision to investors.

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They believed in a vision and then it came to life.

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And apparently he passed away before Walt Disney world was open, Walt Disney land.

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And I'm from Florida.

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So I'm like, sorry guys, Disney world.

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Sir we actually, so we totally understand.

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That's Disney to us Orlando.

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Right?

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If you are at the hot center, we're not even in the conversation.

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The point of it is people said, oh my god, we didn't live to see it and his closest friend

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and his children said, are you kidding?

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He is the one who's on.

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So we don't see with our eyes.

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So this is where it starts to get really clear, right?

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You're even feeling it as I'm saying it, right?

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It's like, we're sitting here with vision boards and all we're doing is saying, where is it?

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Where is it?

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It's not here.

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And Brian said this radio metaphor, I love how you said, it's going to live right in your

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head for a week.

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I love it.

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It's been living right in my head for 25 years.

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So I'm right there with you.

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It's been away for a very long time.

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Yeah, so he said, and by the way, since he said this to me, I hear a lot of other people

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say it, which not because of him, because it's just a great metaphor.

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But what he said was the following.

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He said a radio.

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If you put a radio in this room and you turn it on, you will hear music.

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Where was the music before you turned on the radio?

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Like right now, as you and I sit here, the three of us were here in this moment.

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We're not hearing music, but it is here.

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Like, I told you this.

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Radio on, it would literally be here.

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This is not like a woo-woo idea.

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This is reality, okay?

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But then he goes further.

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And he says, so if you turn that radio on, maybe you'll hear a song.

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Maybe you'll hear static because you're in between two stations, right?

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My kids have no idea what I'm talking about because I grew up in the 80s.

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We're like, we actually had rabid eaters.

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I'm like, all they have is empty threes and they play perfectly.

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Yeah.

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And every time.

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But rabid Aaron says the following.

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He says, so you could turn the radio on.

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Maybe you're going to hear all these.

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You're going to hear Diana Ross.

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But then you're going to turn it again.

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You're going to hear hip hop.

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You're going to hear Drake.

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Then you're going to turn it again.

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You might hear a baseball game.

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You go into AM radio.

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So he said, so not only is there music hidden in plain sight, is there a broadcast hidden

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in plain sight?

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That's true.

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That's a fact.

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But there are multiple broadcasts hidden in plain sight.

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And now you have to ask yourself, okay?

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So the broadcast that's playing, the life that you are watching, that you are experiencing,

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the song, so to speak.

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You're selecting it.

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You are.

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Okay?

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God, in God's infinite wisdom, says, okay, you're going to be a soul, you're going to be a soul

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in a body, you're going to have a life.

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Cool.

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Let's make this fun.

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I'm going to give you something called free will.

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Okay?

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I'm going to create all these possibilities.

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And you with your free will are going to be able to get into alignment.

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And the higher you go, the higher your vibration, the more love you perceive, you're going to

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change that song.

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So every single day we wake up and we think we have control over a lot of things.

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We really don't.

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Our one job is, can I manipulate my own field?

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Can I change my own energy?

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Can I drop in so that I see further in the mind?

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I see with my heart that I see the way God would have me perceive.

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And so every single day I say to people, the same way you still laugh, what you're going to

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wear, right?

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Like today, I was like, I had to lay tennis with my daughters earlier and then we came home,

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we had some lunch and I was like, well, I'm going to go on this podcast.

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I'm going to wear this like casual year sweater because it just feels a little bit more elevated

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than like my t-shirt, right?

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So I selected this to wear because it makes me feel a little bit more elevated.

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Every single day, whether we know it or not, we are selecting what we're going to think,

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what we're going to feel, right?

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So something will wake up every day and they just play that static again because they're

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feeling black, doubt, self-doubt, self-criticism, shame, anger, right?

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And when you do that, what will happen?

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You will play that back all day long, the world will reflect it.

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You'll be like, oh my gosh, you know, I went on a blind date, didn't like the guy, you

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know, I went, this happened, got a flat tire, somebody else, right?

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Who was tuned into everything's happening for me all day long in a text message exchange

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with the divine.

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I just can't wait to be of service.

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I can't wait to be of use.

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They're like, oh my God, I went on this blind date and they know what, it didn't feel like

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a match, but I know someone for this person and I feel so useful because I know this person's

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match and oh my God, it was so cute and did it, did it, did it, right?

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When we walk into a room and we feel black, so then we walk into a room, we need, we need

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from everyone else.

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When we walk into a room and we feel whole, we're coming into the room to give something

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to everyone else.

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And all of a sudden, the room feels like love, right?

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We know that there's a law of entrainment where, when you said it earlier, which I love that

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will, you're so, you're just so smart because you added so many things to that intro, but

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when somebody walks in a room, you feel their nervous system immediately.

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We all feel each other.

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If somebody walks in in doubt, in black, in urgency, doesn't feel good about themselves,

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you read it.

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You can read it, doesn't matter what they're wearing, doesn't matter what, are they

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drooping on, right?

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It matters where are they attuned within themselves?

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And when somebody walks in and they're feeling loving, they're not walking in needing anything

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from you.

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Now they've actually leveled you up and there's something happening, there's space that

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is happening in that room.

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There's connection that's happening in that room.

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You feel good just being around this person, right?

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And that's a blessing.

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And so there's so much more I can say, but I'm going to pause because I think I answered

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your first question.

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So I have a question, how does someone, you know, change their station per se when they

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don't even know there's a dial?

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Oh yeah.

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So first of all, most of us are raised around well many people who are doing the best that

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they can.

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They think it's all on them.

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They don't really have a connection to the idea that there is something called flow state.

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Okay.

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Like flow state, what I love about that is from a scientific lens.

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We now know what that is.

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We can measure that.

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We can measure the brain when it goes into the gamma and we can see that Michael Jordan

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on the court, similar to Picasso when he's painting.

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They're both in flip.

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That's an actual state.

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So what's helpful about being in 2026 is that this isn't all just kind of like nice to

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here.

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We actually have receipts.

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And so most people though, even though it's true, even though we have the data to show

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what it looks like when a person has created the environment for which some magic will

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take place.

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We now know what that environment looks like.

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Right?

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Jason Moraz told me like when he's going to go write a song, he has to let his creativity

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be the muse.

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He has to give himself over to his creativity.

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So he walks in the studio.

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He's like, all right, show me.

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Pick up a shaker, pick up a guitar, play this.

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He's got to get out of the way.

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Okay.

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You same thing, Dr. James Doty, may he rest in peace.

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He told me, you know, his book into the magic shop.

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He goes, he's a doctor.

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He was a brain surgeon.

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He said, Dr. Zoneel, people, doctors create the conditions by which healing can hopefully

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take place.

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Right.

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Right.

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Okay.

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So what actually is happening are our parents.

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Most of them, they haven't really looked into this very much.

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And so people walk around feeling very separate from whatever forces there are.

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And the universe feeling very separate from their capacity to know their intuition or to

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just trust and be led, right, and surrender.

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Their need to do everything.

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And so I think first of all, it's really helpful to question what is our belief because beliefs

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are agreements.

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Okay.

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A thought is something you think.

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And then it makes you feel a certain way.

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But a belief is a thought you've thought so many times that it's a law.

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And I think the response will think to do as a dose is actually sit down with our beliefs

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and do a little audit.

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Like is this really what I want to select?

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I could select anything.

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So do I really want to select that in order for me to get out of this life on scale, that

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to be a people-cleaser?

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Is that a belief I really want to continue to believe?

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Do I really want to believe that it's all on me and there's no grace and there's no

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intuition and I'm all, I'm in this on my own.

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We have to kind of take a little part of the look at that first of all.

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And then second of all, what's so powerful is, you know, the word education comes from the

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word induced to pull out of a child, right?

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Meaning every, I say this every time I give a workshop, everything I'm teaching, you

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knew it.

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And so sometimes the simplest thing to do is to get quiet and start to become really

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connected to ask yourself, what is my soul want me to remember today?

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What do I actually know that a part of me forgot that I actually know on some level and then

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there's some equanimity that comes in, right?

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Because the heart has the answers and the heart is always full, it's never in competition,

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it always sees the big picture, right?

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It's the mind that goes into fight or flight.

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And one of the things I say is, you know, basketball players are good basketball players because

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they anticipate what the next person might do.

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When you wake up in the morning, I say, if you can give yourself five minutes before you

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start reacting, picking up your phone and reacting to life, but you check in, you connect and

492
00:25:07,000 --> 00:25:12,240
then you're responding to life, then I would wake up every morning anticipating your mind

493
00:25:12,240 --> 00:25:14,920
is going to play the same worst case scenarios every day.

494
00:25:14,920 --> 00:25:16,800
That's what minds do.

495
00:25:16,800 --> 00:25:18,480
That's what the mind does.

496
00:25:18,480 --> 00:25:20,320
So that's not, it's not interesting.

497
00:25:20,320 --> 00:25:22,000
It doesn't make a person deep.

498
00:25:22,000 --> 00:25:23,320
It's just what the mind does.

499
00:25:23,320 --> 00:25:28,040
So if you anticipate that, you can say, okay, I'm going to be ahead of it, which means

500
00:25:28,040 --> 00:25:34,440
every morning now, when I wake up, I'm going to be disciplined to spend 10 minutes and

501
00:25:34,440 --> 00:25:35,680
take a walk outside.

502
00:25:35,680 --> 00:25:43,320
As simple as the sounds, if you were to actually start moving away from being in the habit of

503
00:25:43,320 --> 00:25:48,800
just buying into this barrage, the snowstorm of old beliefs and you took 10 minutes in the

504
00:25:48,800 --> 00:25:55,040
morning and reached for something greater, read something inspiring, you know, set a vision

505
00:25:55,040 --> 00:25:56,840
for your day.

506
00:25:56,840 --> 00:26:03,600
These are the beginnings of how we start to inch closer to finding what lies at the center

507
00:26:03,600 --> 00:26:07,920
of our being, which is many, many more layers of this answer.

508
00:26:07,920 --> 00:26:08,920
You got it?

509
00:26:08,920 --> 00:26:09,920
I got it.

510
00:26:09,920 --> 00:26:14,040
You're touching a little bit on your morning practice, right?

511
00:26:14,040 --> 00:26:22,600
You have a morning practice that's a 90 second feeling selection ritual.

512
00:26:22,600 --> 00:26:26,320
What does ease feel like in the body?

513
00:26:26,320 --> 00:26:28,800
What does joy feel like?

514
00:26:28,800 --> 00:26:32,160
Because a lot of people when they wake up in the morning, with everything that's going

515
00:26:32,160 --> 00:26:37,120
on around the world or, you know, everyone's feeling something is weighing heavy on them.

516
00:26:37,120 --> 00:26:42,480
It's not the easiest thing in the world to wake up and suddenly feel like ease or feel joy

517
00:26:42,480 --> 00:26:44,880
because something is happening at that particular point.

518
00:26:44,880 --> 00:26:49,240
And from what I understand, if I understand it correctly, we have to allow that feeling

519
00:26:49,240 --> 00:26:55,200
of joy and ease to lead the way for us in order for us to tune that radio station to something

520
00:26:55,200 --> 00:26:58,480
that we actually want to have to receive.

521
00:26:58,480 --> 00:27:00,600
I don't even want to say manifest anymore to receive.

522
00:27:00,600 --> 00:27:04,840
So how does someone get to that point in light of everything that's going on right now?

523
00:27:04,840 --> 00:27:09,200
Well, first of all, there's always been something going on in the world, you know?

524
00:27:09,200 --> 00:27:13,840
And I asked that specifically because you learned this in the middle of a war, right?

525
00:27:13,840 --> 00:27:16,000
Yeah, I was at that point.

526
00:27:16,000 --> 00:27:21,420
Yeah, that was during the Second Antipada and there were tremendous, it was bus bombing,

527
00:27:21,420 --> 00:27:26,720
suicide bombings, and it was, and for me, also having no background to be familiar with

528
00:27:26,720 --> 00:27:27,720
that.

529
00:27:27,720 --> 00:27:30,720
But it was definitely hard, right?

530
00:27:30,720 --> 00:27:34,720
And very like, whoa, like I grew up in South Florida, like we listened to Wilson Phillips

531
00:27:34,720 --> 00:27:36,720
and went to the mall on Saturday.

532
00:27:36,720 --> 00:27:39,720
Like, you know, these people were like, you know, very resilient.

533
00:27:39,720 --> 00:27:40,720
Like, okay, here's what you do.

534
00:27:40,720 --> 00:27:43,960
Like this iron goes off and then you go to the shelter and like, what is happening right

535
00:27:43,960 --> 00:27:44,960
now?

536
00:27:44,960 --> 00:27:49,520
And it's interesting because even in that time, I was so happy.

537
00:27:49,520 --> 00:27:55,840
I was so deeply mesmerized and in love with the universe and had a new glasses put on

538
00:27:55,840 --> 00:27:56,840
myself.

539
00:27:56,840 --> 00:28:00,840
And I was so happy seeing the wonder of everything that I didn't want to leave.

540
00:28:00,840 --> 00:28:03,160
And I just had to be extending my trip.

541
00:28:03,160 --> 00:28:07,280
That's exactly why I pointed out because for those that don't know what the Second Antipada

542
00:28:07,280 --> 00:28:13,200
was, it is a point where everyone in public spaces were incredibly vulnerable.

543
00:28:13,200 --> 00:28:19,520
So people writing their buses or people in public in the cafe were worried that they

544
00:28:19,520 --> 00:28:20,520
would get bombed.

545
00:28:20,520 --> 00:28:22,640
That there would be a right.

546
00:28:22,640 --> 00:28:28,840
So in the middle, this is an area at a time frame where people lived in terror when they

547
00:28:28,840 --> 00:28:29,840
were out in public.

548
00:28:29,840 --> 00:28:30,840
Totally.

549
00:28:30,840 --> 00:28:33,040
And also this was during September 11, right?

550
00:28:33,040 --> 00:28:35,040
Because we were experiencing it there.

551
00:28:35,040 --> 00:28:39,520
And then it also showed up here in our American front.

552
00:28:39,520 --> 00:28:43,080
And so the world was in a lot of, that was a really scary.

553
00:28:43,080 --> 00:28:46,920
That was like bigger than what anyone had ever anticipated.

554
00:28:46,920 --> 00:28:47,920
Right?

555
00:28:47,920 --> 00:28:49,520
Every window was kind of feeling that.

556
00:28:49,520 --> 00:28:51,120
And also, right?

557
00:28:51,120 --> 00:28:54,720
You could put your finger on any time in history, right?

558
00:28:54,720 --> 00:28:59,400
Whether it was like Genghis Khan, a black plague, like, you know, the Spanish inquisition, you

559
00:28:59,400 --> 00:29:01,400
know, the Aztecs.

560
00:29:01,400 --> 00:29:02,400
There is no time.

561
00:29:02,400 --> 00:29:03,400
That's the thing.

562
00:29:03,400 --> 00:29:08,360
Every time somebody says, well, what's going on now, your grandparents would have something

563
00:29:08,360 --> 00:29:10,160
to say to you about that, right?

564
00:29:10,160 --> 00:29:12,200
And their grandparents would have something to say.

565
00:29:12,200 --> 00:29:15,200
And so that's not that interesting, right?

566
00:29:15,200 --> 00:29:16,200
It's not that interesting.

567
00:29:16,200 --> 00:29:18,040
What's more interesting is this.

568
00:29:18,040 --> 00:29:23,480
What's more interesting is that I coach about 10,000 people a year, okay?

569
00:29:23,480 --> 00:29:26,640
And what's more interesting than what we were just talking about, which is what's happening

570
00:29:26,640 --> 00:29:31,920
around us, is what's happening within us because people say to me all the time the same

571
00:29:31,920 --> 00:29:32,920
refrain.

572
00:29:32,920 --> 00:29:34,400
She knew what I want.

573
00:29:34,400 --> 00:29:37,000
I just want to feel that ease.

574
00:29:37,000 --> 00:29:40,000
I want to take my girlfriends to the South of France.

575
00:29:40,000 --> 00:29:45,480
I want to, you know, wait up every day and like, snow white speaking to the birds outside

576
00:29:45,480 --> 00:29:46,480
of the town.

577
00:29:46,480 --> 00:29:50,640
And I say to them, but do you?

578
00:29:50,640 --> 00:29:56,680
Because the truth is most people go on a vacation and they start getting antsy.

579
00:29:56,680 --> 00:29:59,200
They pick a fight with their spouse, right?

580
00:29:59,200 --> 00:30:03,480
Or they, a lot of people win the lottery and then they sabotage the whole thing and lose

581
00:30:03,480 --> 00:30:04,480
the money.

582
00:30:04,480 --> 00:30:05,880
You know, six months later, back in the same place.

583
00:30:05,880 --> 00:30:10,760
So what's going on is we are so addicted to stress and pressure, right?

584
00:30:10,760 --> 00:30:15,320
I was talking to a friend the other day and I said she's doing well, but she's exhausted

585
00:30:15,320 --> 00:30:18,040
because she has, she's just a work of all of it.

586
00:30:18,040 --> 00:30:19,320
She works all the time.

587
00:30:19,320 --> 00:30:22,320
And I said to her, you know, at this point in your business, you could probably make a few

588
00:30:22,320 --> 00:30:27,920
changes and you could probably work less and not be trading time for dollars so much.

589
00:30:27,920 --> 00:30:32,000
And what came out of the conversation was, what would I do with the white space on my calendar?

590
00:30:32,000 --> 00:30:33,680
I don't know what I would do.

591
00:30:33,680 --> 00:30:34,680
Wow.

592
00:30:34,680 --> 00:30:35,680
Right?

593
00:30:35,680 --> 00:30:36,680
Yeah.

594
00:30:36,680 --> 00:30:40,080
And then, and then the next thing that she said was, then I'd have to face what's going

595
00:30:40,080 --> 00:30:42,080
on in my marriage.

596
00:30:42,080 --> 00:30:44,000
So I'd rather just keep working.

597
00:30:44,000 --> 00:30:48,760
So the honest thing is we have to build our capacity.

598
00:30:48,760 --> 00:30:54,000
And so one of the other metaphors I love is the idea of white bulbs.

599
00:30:54,000 --> 00:30:56,400
Because there are some light bulbs that are 45 watts.

600
00:30:56,400 --> 00:31:00,000
They can handle 45 watts of light.

601
00:31:00,000 --> 00:31:03,000
And other light bulbs are 75 watts.

602
00:31:03,000 --> 00:31:06,000
Other light bulbs are 1000 watts, right?

603
00:31:06,000 --> 00:31:08,920
And so I say to people, think of it this way.

604
00:31:08,920 --> 00:31:13,560
All God is capable of doing is pouring light into the world, on tap all the time.

605
00:31:13,560 --> 00:31:18,280
The question is, do you have the vessel that can receive it?

606
00:31:18,280 --> 00:31:22,560
And if you ask most people, when anything shows up, that's delightful.

607
00:31:22,560 --> 00:31:23,560
Right.

608
00:31:23,560 --> 00:31:24,560
You look so beautiful.

609
00:31:24,560 --> 00:31:26,560
People look, oh, that is no.

610
00:31:26,560 --> 00:31:27,560
How about, thank you.

611
00:31:27,560 --> 00:31:29,280
I received that.

612
00:31:29,280 --> 00:31:33,720
When someone goes to lunch with you and your friends is like, yes, one, do you protest and

613
00:31:33,720 --> 00:31:35,760
be like, oh my God, I'm so uncomfortable.

614
00:31:35,760 --> 00:31:37,560
Absolutely not.

615
00:31:37,560 --> 00:31:41,200
Where is your capacity to receive what's right there?

616
00:31:41,200 --> 00:31:42,560
Oh, it's not really there.

617
00:31:42,560 --> 00:31:46,880
it. Right. How many times does somebody ask me, do you want to sell? You carry this out to

618
00:31:46,880 --> 00:31:53,040
your park, the grocery store. Oh, I've got it. What do you mean? Also you give people so much

619
00:31:53,040 --> 00:31:58,800
purpose when you say, thank you, I love that. And why we denied that is because growing up

620
00:31:58,800 --> 00:32:04,960
at the age of four, five, eight, whatever it is, number one, whatever our parent's vessel capacity

621
00:32:04,960 --> 00:32:12,240
is is malt thrust. Right? And people grow up around parents who don't necessarily model. You can

622
00:32:12,240 --> 00:32:18,320
trust other people. You know, you can trust God. You can just receive. No, a lot of parents

623
00:32:18,320 --> 00:32:22,000
are telling their kids, what are you doing? Did you move along this morning? You got to get to work.

624
00:32:22,000 --> 00:32:27,200
You got to be productive. You got to earn it. Right? You look out at the trees, look at up the birds.

625
00:32:27,200 --> 00:32:34,320
They're not in a rush. They're just saying, thank you God, I receive it. What do they get? What

626
00:32:34,320 --> 00:32:39,360
is nature give us back? Everything. Right. Because it's not urgent. It's not rushing. The redwood

627
00:32:39,360 --> 00:32:45,520
trees are just saying, I'm meant to be this tall. Right? And the central prayer that Abraham

628
00:32:45,520 --> 00:32:53,040
brought down, right, was God is one. In Hebrew, it says, my Israel, God, Elokane was one. What does it

629
00:32:53,040 --> 00:32:59,920
mean? It means we're all one. Right? Every wave is a wave in the same ocean, which means when you're

630
00:32:59,920 --> 00:33:04,160
thriving and you come out of your house to get the news to everyone, you say hello to your neighbor

631
00:33:04,160 --> 00:33:10,160
with love, you just shared that. It just gets past. Right? So when you walk into Starbucks and you're

632
00:33:10,160 --> 00:33:15,120
having a great day, you're emanating that. Other people, we're all one, same thing with a garden.

633
00:33:15,120 --> 00:33:19,680
If one tree starts to get a little bit diseased and there's some weeds, you got to pull that. Because

634
00:33:19,680 --> 00:33:25,280
eventually it's going to affect the whole garden. So when each of us decides that it's not selfish to

635
00:33:25,280 --> 00:33:30,880
feel good, right? That actually by us feeling that we're a lightning rod for more love, more

636
00:33:30,880 --> 00:33:36,160
compassionate, more empathy, more inspiration, more abundance, we continue to create that. I'll give you

637
00:33:36,160 --> 00:33:43,360
another hard, hard, tangible example, like meaning hard that you can feel it. Money is a great example.

638
00:33:43,360 --> 00:33:49,040
The word currency comes from the word current. It means to keep moving. So money has always been a

639
00:33:49,040 --> 00:33:54,720
perfect example of one in us because it's circular. Here's what I mean. Before a person tides,

640
00:33:54,720 --> 00:33:59,040
like I'm a big titheater, I'm really into it because I just know the way God keeps the book. So I'm like,

641
00:33:59,040 --> 00:34:04,640
I'd rather like give it and watch it come back 10 times 10. But the point of it is, before you even do

642
00:34:04,640 --> 00:34:10,480
that, before you even give charity to anybody, just having money. When you put money into a bank,

643
00:34:10,480 --> 00:34:14,480
what is it doing while you're sleeping, funding somebody's mortgage, sending somebody else to

644
00:34:14,480 --> 00:34:22,560
college, right? That money is being used, right? Because we are one. It's one system, right? So just having

645
00:34:22,560 --> 00:34:28,400
the audacity to be a bundtican, you created more abundance instantly for somebody else to protect it.

646
00:34:28,400 --> 00:34:32,080
Right. As opposed to scarcity mentality, that's everywhere these days.

647
00:34:32,080 --> 00:34:38,000
Right. And so people actually, before you even get to what does it feel like to feel good,

648
00:34:38,000 --> 00:34:42,400
people don't even feel permission to feel good. There's this feeling of,

649
00:34:42,400 --> 00:34:47,040
might even allow to feel good, or am I doing something wrong by feeling so good.

650
00:34:47,040 --> 00:34:56,320
So how do you, so diving even deeper? I hear that loud and clear.

651
00:34:57,520 --> 00:35:04,320
Sometimes we go around really believing that we feel good, right? The lady that didn't

652
00:35:04,320 --> 00:35:10,160
realize that her working so hard was really keeping her from thinking about her marriage or the

653
00:35:10,160 --> 00:35:14,720
white space on the calendar. Yeah. Yeah. Well, how do you get to the point where you actually go?

654
00:35:14,720 --> 00:35:20,000
I mean, obviously you can reach out to Kathy and Kathy. We'll get you on the right track. But if

655
00:35:20,000 --> 00:35:27,280
someone can't do that, how can I sit down and realize that the reason why I'm facing burnout

656
00:35:27,280 --> 00:35:33,200
on a daily basis is that I don't want to look at what's going to happen if I don't have the job anymore.

657
00:35:33,200 --> 00:35:42,880
For example, yeah. At the end of the day, we have to make our lives feel like a sanctuary.

658
00:35:42,880 --> 00:35:48,480
We have to choose mornings that feel like prayer instead of pressure. We have to have the audacity

659
00:35:48,480 --> 00:35:58,240
to sip our tea slowly, meaning to say that the universe is not a bending machine. It's a mirror.

660
00:35:58,240 --> 00:36:07,360
And what people call lucky, someone says that person's lucky, it's not lucky.

661
00:36:07,360 --> 00:36:16,320
It's that the universe will always return to you the evidence of what you perceive.

662
00:36:17,280 --> 00:36:22,080
In science, we talked about the observer effect. Einstein said that when you observe a particle,

663
00:36:22,080 --> 00:36:27,120
the particle literally changes because of how you observe it. So if the three of us,

664
00:36:27,120 --> 00:36:32,880
if we all went to Central Park and sat on a bench, we would see it differently.

665
00:36:32,880 --> 00:36:38,160
We're observing it. We would tell each other, no, that's not what happened. This is what happened.

666
00:36:38,160 --> 00:36:41,920
No, I saw that guy. That's what his intention was. And you know, I thought he was just being nice.

667
00:36:41,920 --> 00:36:46,480
And I'm like, right, because whatever is true for us will make it true.

668
00:36:46,480 --> 00:36:52,400
Well, in fact, now they say that people go back and siblings will recount the same stories.

669
00:36:52,400 --> 00:36:59,280
And they will recount them totally differently. I mean, my sister and I have a completely different lens

670
00:36:59,280 --> 00:37:04,480
of my parents. And it seems similar until you get into a nuances of it. And it's not the same.

671
00:37:04,480 --> 00:37:11,360
So our job is to understand that whatever we believe, we're right.

672
00:37:12,320 --> 00:37:20,640
Okay. And so we want to really look at. Okay. So what do I believe? And what is it costing me to hold on to

673
00:37:20,640 --> 00:37:27,600
this belief? Right. And so one of my favorite tools in Judaism, one of my favorite tools in scripture,

674
00:37:27,600 --> 00:37:35,200
one of my is God's hasn't God doesn't say I need you to overthink. I need you to over function. God says,

675
00:37:35,200 --> 00:37:45,760
be still and know. That's it. So practicing the what seems so indulgent, we live in a culture that says,

676
00:37:45,760 --> 00:37:52,320
the harder you work, the more effort you put in, the more you get back. Well, that is the world

677
00:37:52,320 --> 00:37:58,400
not according to the way that we were designed. Because the truth is, right, what I said about vision,

678
00:37:58,400 --> 00:38:03,760
what I said about both Disney, what I said about Steve Jobs, the slowing down is feeding up. Because when

679
00:38:03,760 --> 00:38:09,920
I actually slow it all the way down when someone's meditating and they get slow when they get when they do

680
00:38:09,920 --> 00:38:17,200
be still and know the mind goes into gamma. And where is everything created? It's created in consciousness.

681
00:38:17,200 --> 00:38:21,520
Consciousness creates matter. Right. How did God create the world? Let there be light. Let there be this.

682
00:38:21,520 --> 00:38:27,840
So what we think is actually productive by just coming from a smaller state of our own being and

683
00:38:27,840 --> 00:38:34,080
trying to like muscle it, we're going to create a lot less than when we have a vision, a bigger vision,

684
00:38:34,080 --> 00:38:40,800
because it's our residents and our vision that actually creates. So we would be more productive.

685
00:38:40,800 --> 00:38:45,520
Playing football, taking an app, going on vacation, going to a museum, looking at beauty,

686
00:38:45,520 --> 00:38:51,440
feeling connected to your heart, really opening up, right? Everything about your senses that you could

687
00:38:51,440 --> 00:38:57,600
receive a download, you would be better at creating relationships in your life. You'd be better at

688
00:38:57,600 --> 00:39:05,200
creating money in your life from that place than you would from not seeing beyond the physical plane.

689
00:39:05,200 --> 00:39:10,880
And just thinking that it's your job to hustle more work harder. And that's a choice. Right. And those two

690
00:39:10,880 --> 00:39:20,240
people have a different radio stations selected. It can be so scary though. Just to

691
00:39:20,640 --> 00:39:28,080
like for example, for someone who earns the living for the family, and they're in a situation

692
00:39:28,080 --> 00:39:33,440
where they're burnt out and they're ready just to get out of there. And it sounds ideal.

693
00:39:33,440 --> 00:39:38,800
But the thoughts of who's going to pay the bills are we going to end up homeless? How are we going

694
00:39:38,800 --> 00:39:45,600
to eat? Like how do you get past that? Yeah. Because unfortunately that we really all bought into that.

695
00:39:46,320 --> 00:39:53,520
Like the interesting thing is, okay, so the people that make the most money in the world work less

696
00:39:53,520 --> 00:39:58,560
than the people who make less. Right. If you're on your feet a nine to five job,

697
00:39:58,560 --> 00:40:04,480
you're not making as much money as for instance, there's a book called "Buy Back Your Time" by

698
00:40:04,480 --> 00:40:10,320
Dan Martell and he gives a sample schedule for Oprah. Right. He says, "The billionaires of the world know

699
00:40:11,600 --> 00:40:18,800
that their biggest chess move comes from being in the most coherent place within himself." Okay.

700
00:40:18,800 --> 00:40:25,360
So he said, "Here's an example of a schedule for a billionaire. She wakes up, has her green

701
00:40:25,360 --> 00:40:32,560
shoes, does yoga, checks in, starts to feel really resonant. Then she reads a really good book.

702
00:40:32,560 --> 00:40:37,840
Then she takes a walk. Then she has one meeting. And when she walks in that meeting, she expands

703
00:40:37,840 --> 00:40:43,760
everyone in the room. And everyone has better ideas just because she's in that seat and she's

704
00:40:43,760 --> 00:40:51,840
generating a higher residence, a higher capacity to see. Okay. And from that place, they make a quantum

705
00:40:51,840 --> 00:40:57,600
leap in the business. And then she knows the rest of the day for a job is to go to her instrument.

706
00:40:57,600 --> 00:41:02,240
Right. If you listen to Bob Dylan, if you listen to Alton John, they're like, "I just woke up. The song just

707
00:41:02,240 --> 00:41:09,360
came in." Okay. We believe that it's on us. It's so scary to let that go. Yesterday, I was with my

708
00:41:09,360 --> 00:41:15,600
friend Amy Purdy. She lost her legs from the knees down when she was 19 to meningitis. She went on to

709
00:41:15,600 --> 00:41:22,320
in the Olympic Games, she was in the Paralympic, she's a snowboarder. She's the first person to snowboard

710
00:41:22,320 --> 00:41:32,000
on two prosthetic legs. And her whole life is a miracle. But she knows she understood, right. When

711
00:41:32,000 --> 00:41:36,720
she, her story, she was also in dancing at the stars and she won runner-up. She should have won the whole

712
00:41:36,720 --> 00:41:42,400
thing. She was phenomenal. But she tells the story over and over again. There's no amount of time

713
00:41:42,400 --> 00:41:47,360
you can hear it, that you want to hear it again and again, right. Because it's the story of David

714
00:41:47,360 --> 00:41:53,600
and Delias. Okay. David is really small. He's a kid. He's like 13 years old, right. And Delias, they say

715
00:41:53,600 --> 00:41:59,680
it was like seven, you know, maybe eight feet tall. And these two armies, right, is the Philistines

716
00:41:59,680 --> 00:42:04,320
and then the Jewish army. They're like, just send, forget how to lose all these people. If you just

717
00:42:04,320 --> 00:42:08,960
send your best person, we'll send our best person. And they're like, I guess we're going to send David

718
00:42:08,960 --> 00:42:17,280
because he has the most spiritual equipment. And he goes out there and Galiah is like laughing like,

719
00:42:17,280 --> 00:42:22,960
oh my god, this is who they sent. And he's like, well, you, you're just coming from the place of

720
00:42:22,960 --> 00:42:30,480
your strength. But I have the, I have the backing of God. I have a spiritual strength on my side.

721
00:42:30,480 --> 00:42:38,080
Right. And we see this time and time again, right. The person in the room who wins is the person with

722
00:42:38,080 --> 00:42:44,880
the most certainty, right. The person with the most love, not the person with the most fear. Right.

723
00:42:44,880 --> 00:42:50,960
The people who move humanity, forward the most, the most impressive thing in a room is love and

724
00:42:50,960 --> 00:42:55,760
what is love certainty because when somebody is afraid, what do they try to do control?

725
00:42:55,760 --> 00:43:04,240
And when somebody's in a state of love, they let go, they let something else happen. And that's

726
00:43:04,240 --> 00:43:11,040
when they actually just took their Jedi power back, right. In a relationship, you can either love

727
00:43:11,040 --> 00:43:17,280
the person or control them, but she can't do both. Yeah. Right. And so when we come from that place of

728
00:43:17,280 --> 00:43:25,200
love, Byron Fady has, she tells the story that she was held up at gunpoint. And she looked at this man.

729
00:43:25,200 --> 00:43:29,200
And it was a nighttime. And she, she looked up at the sky and she said, look at the stars.

730
00:43:29,200 --> 00:43:33,680
They're so beautiful. And he left.

731
00:43:33,680 --> 00:43:44,880
Right. She just surrendered trying to fight. Mm-hmm. She just moved into a different orbit. And he

732
00:43:46,800 --> 00:43:53,920
didn't know what to do with that. Right. Love is the most impressive tool we have. Love is not afraid.

733
00:43:53,920 --> 00:44:02,800
And we don't come from that place enough. Mm-hmm. So we come from fear. And then we try to muscle it and

734
00:44:02,800 --> 00:44:11,680
effort it. The people who get paid the most because your time up for rear, they get paid to be in the room.

735
00:44:12,960 --> 00:44:17,600
They get paid for their ride. They get paid for their vision. I was talking about, friend of the other,

736
00:44:17,600 --> 00:44:24,800
about Gwen and the Peltier on like, it's her. People want to be around her. They want to be around a

737
00:44:24,800 --> 00:44:30,320
nervous system that's that locked in. It doesn't need anything from the outside. And by the way,

738
00:44:30,320 --> 00:44:37,920
here's the real thing I'm going to say. Let's say you do get all the acorns and you make it happen

739
00:44:37,920 --> 00:44:42,400
because you made it happen. You made it happen. You made it happen. Is that really the prize? No.

740
00:44:42,880 --> 00:44:47,520
The only reason people want a Range Rover or a trip to Italy is because of how they perceive it will

741
00:44:47,520 --> 00:44:56,800
make them feel. So what I'm saying is the real rich richness, we don't live in whether you live in a

742
00:44:56,800 --> 00:45:02,560
25 hundred square foot house or a 95 hundred square foot house. You really live in here. That's where you live.

743
00:45:02,560 --> 00:45:10,400
And so what I'm saying is when you are afraid of losing what's outside of you and thinking it's

744
00:45:10,400 --> 00:45:17,280
all on you and you're going to live your life that way. You're poor. You're really poor. Right.

745
00:45:17,280 --> 00:45:25,600
Sophia and Marosa built this thing called Girl Boss and she started by upcycling things on eBay and

746
00:45:25,600 --> 00:45:28,800
she was just like making a hundred bucks, making three hundred bucks. Next thing she knows she makes

747
00:45:28,800 --> 00:45:32,880
a million dollars. Then she grew this to a hundred million dollars. She had all these investors

748
00:45:32,880 --> 00:45:40,160
and whatever. Then the whole business collapsed. It went bankrupt on its face and she winds out losing

749
00:45:40,160 --> 00:45:48,320
everything and she and I were on a Zoom call. She was in Kauai in a 500 square foot little bungalow.

750
00:45:48,320 --> 00:45:57,840
And she said this morning I woke up like I did yesterday. I had some celery juice. I swam in the ocean

751
00:45:57,840 --> 00:46:04,880
and then I did some yoga and I can't believe I ever thought that 10 years ago when I was making a hundred

752
00:46:04,880 --> 00:46:11,520
million dollars a year that I was rich because this morning this is the richest you could ever feel.

753
00:46:11,520 --> 00:46:20,960
I feel peace. And now she's rebuilt a new business but from that place. It's intention that creates

754
00:46:20,960 --> 00:46:25,520
effect. It's not a cause and effect. If you want to live in the world of cause and effect,

755
00:46:26,960 --> 00:46:31,280
you're just going to keep setting a goal and moving the goal post because until you feel the peace,

756
00:46:31,280 --> 00:46:39,280
the love, the wholeness, the coherence, it doesn't happen. People win the Oscar and wonder why they're

757
00:46:39,280 --> 00:46:45,200
depressed the next six. They thought that was going to make them feel peace. What you're looking for

758
00:46:45,200 --> 00:46:52,720
in an Oscar or in a range rover, it's in you and until you get that, you're poor. So is it scary?

759
00:46:52,720 --> 00:46:57,120
Or is it the best thing that ever happens to you to say, what do we even holding on to? So tight,

760
00:46:57,120 --> 00:47:01,120
oh, it's because we don't know the power within ourself. And we think that we have to just

761
00:47:01,120 --> 00:47:07,280
work this way. And what do most people do in the US? Work that way. Work themselves to the point

762
00:47:07,280 --> 00:47:14,640
where they then retire. And our life expectancy in the US correlates with retirement. If you go to

763
00:47:14,640 --> 00:47:21,120
the blue zones where they live a completely different kind of, you know, different radio stations,

764
00:47:21,120 --> 00:47:27,360
they live until they're a hundred and eight. So who wins? Right? The people who are baking bread with

765
00:47:27,360 --> 00:47:33,280
their great-great-grandcats and riding a bicycle at 111, not taking pharmaceuticals because they're not

766
00:47:33,280 --> 00:47:40,960
in front of pain. Or it's a person richer because they did it. They held on. Right? They had a mortgage

767
00:47:40,960 --> 00:47:46,960
payment. They paid it. Now they're dead. And their whole life was being in that place. I have to hold

768
00:47:46,960 --> 00:47:54,400
that like, I'm really like, so that's when you realize what's on the top of the ladder that you're

769
00:47:54,400 --> 00:48:00,720
working toward. What does it mean for you to be rich? My contention though, and why I was talking

770
00:48:00,720 --> 00:48:07,200
about Walt Disney and Steve Jobs is that you get to have both. King David was one of the wealthiest

771
00:48:07,200 --> 00:48:13,520
people in history. If you add inflation and everything else, he was richer than Steve, right? And he

772
00:48:13,520 --> 00:48:22,640
wrote every polyloula. Every song. We're still saying you don't have to actually choose. But most people

773
00:48:22,640 --> 00:48:29,760
don't know how. It's a harder test to be connected to money because you start letting that money

774
00:48:29,760 --> 00:48:35,280
rule you. Now you're in the fear. Now you're in the grip. Right. Versus if you start like Steve Jobs

775
00:48:35,280 --> 00:48:41,280
for 15 years before Apple, he just was a monk. People don't know that. But when you start in that place,

776
00:48:41,920 --> 00:48:46,000
you know that nothing can take that from you. Now you're in fullness. We create abundance from

777
00:48:46,000 --> 00:48:52,080
wholeness, not from lack. So of course Apple was going to become the wealthiest company ever in

778
00:48:52,080 --> 00:48:58,080
history because he created it from feeling that abundant. He didn't need it to make him feel anything.

779
00:48:58,080 --> 00:49:04,560
He wasn't worried about it. I hope that answers the question. It takes a lot of trust

780
00:49:04,560 --> 00:49:11,040
to make that leap. So from what I know exactly what Karen's referring to. So I can speak from that

781
00:49:11,040 --> 00:49:22,480
context where yes, what you're saying is one the co-ye thing. Intrinsically, I feel it. I know I get it.

782
00:49:22,480 --> 00:49:31,760
It's a matter of that fear is so ingrained in you. It's so a part of you because of

783
00:49:31,760 --> 00:49:36,960
higher than many years of programming. And possibly you have gone through something in the past

784
00:49:36,960 --> 00:49:43,840
that has shown you if this happens, this is the result. And it was a positive result at that point.

785
00:49:43,840 --> 00:49:51,840
So now you allow yourself to resonate with what Bob and noise call it resonant tuning,

786
00:49:51,840 --> 00:49:58,800
where you tune yourself to a level that you can be zen about not having a job.

787
00:50:00,160 --> 00:50:10,080
Yeah, I mean, it's a completely different way of looking at what did you come here for.

788
00:50:10,080 --> 00:50:23,600
And to me, most people are so tied to I need to be successful, but the soul is an interested in that.

789
00:50:24,880 --> 00:50:31,760
The soul says, I don't need success. I need significance. I want to make an impact every day. And so is my

790
00:50:31,760 --> 00:50:38,560
bank account and how much money I have or how many people I touched from really being present,

791
00:50:38,560 --> 00:50:46,880
not being in a rush. Now, rich was I. Did I eat that apple and enjoy it and listen to the birds,

792
00:50:46,880 --> 00:50:52,880
or did I make money today and make money today, but I missed out on every other moment. So it's really

793
00:50:53,680 --> 00:50:59,440
and then what's so powerful and everyone can do this is you can play a game with the universe. You can

794
00:50:59,440 --> 00:51:05,920
say to God, okay, show me the receipts. I'm going to start living today more from this place of trust

795
00:51:05,920 --> 00:51:11,280
and ease. And I want you to show me that I'm on the right path and you will see it. I'll give you a

796
00:51:11,280 --> 00:51:17,600
great example when I started my podcast. And by the way, it's a really interesting story because when

797
00:51:17,600 --> 00:51:23,520
I went to Los Angeles from Jerusalem, I just felt this, this instinct to use my voice. I always wanted

798
00:51:23,520 --> 00:51:27,680
to be a songwriter and I moved to LA and I had a record deal at Interscope and then I got dropped and

799
00:51:27,680 --> 00:51:31,920
then I had a record deal at Lannick Records. My go at Lannick Records made so much more sense for me.

800
00:51:31,920 --> 00:51:36,560
I got dropped from Atlanta. Then I wound up writing music for TV shows like Raisin Atty and

801
00:51:36,560 --> 00:51:40,080
Pretty Little Liars for 10 years and I would hear my songs and would download commercials.

802
00:51:40,080 --> 00:51:44,400
And I was making like 400 grand a year and I had my kids and I was like, oh my god, and that's so

803
00:51:44,400 --> 00:51:50,400
cool. There was a whole other path. Then I started a podcast. So I started a podcast at 37 years old

804
00:51:50,400 --> 00:51:56,640
and my friend says to me, everybody who has a podcast needs Apple to feature you on Apple podcast

805
00:51:56,640 --> 00:52:00,560
because at the time it was just Apple. There was not Spotify. I wasn't in the game. There was no

806
00:52:00,560 --> 00:52:07,440
Google Play and nothing. So she said Apple is going to host an event in Anaheim for podcasters.

807
00:52:07,440 --> 00:52:11,280
This is 2017. She said, you have to be there and you have to meet the Apple people. I'm like, okay,

808
00:52:11,280 --> 00:52:16,880
fine. So I was nursing my youngest daughter. I've been bringing a breast pump with me to Anaheim.

809
00:52:16,880 --> 00:52:21,920
I'm like, so not in the headspace. My daughter's like, you know, a few months old. I have a three-year-old

810
00:52:21,920 --> 00:52:27,200
at home. I'm a four-year-old at home and I'm going to Anaheim. And I walk into this networking event

811
00:52:27,200 --> 00:52:32,720
and I was like, oh, static. Everyone was fake. Everybody was in the matrix. I got to be this. I got

812
00:52:32,720 --> 00:52:38,640
high. It was just like, you know what? No one, you know those moments, right? So I said to myself,

813
00:52:38,640 --> 00:52:44,640
I know better than this. This doesn't feel good, you know? And then I'm going to try to like

814
00:52:44,640 --> 00:52:50,080
get someone from Apple to do something for me. It's like, that's something that life works, right? Like,

815
00:52:50,080 --> 00:52:55,280
life, there's like social norms, you know? If you make a deposit with someone and they genuinely

816
00:52:55,280 --> 00:53:01,600
want to help you, they'll help you, right? Anyway, so long story short, I say to my friend, I say,

817
00:53:01,600 --> 00:53:05,600
when does the conference actually begin in the networking event? She says in about 90 minutes,

818
00:53:05,600 --> 00:53:11,120
I said, great, I'll come back. So I believe, and I go to a different hotel about two blocks away,

819
00:53:11,120 --> 00:53:17,280
and I sit down and I order an iced tea and I felt everything was right in the world again. I wasn't

820
00:53:17,280 --> 00:53:21,600
feeling small. I wasn't trying to impress anyone. I wasn't trying to, I didn't even have business cards

821
00:53:21,600 --> 00:53:28,240
with me. So I sit down and this man comes in. He's reading the newspaper and we realized that we're

822
00:53:28,240 --> 00:53:34,800
both wearing the same badge from the conference. And he says to me, were you in that conference? And I

823
00:53:34,800 --> 00:53:39,440
say, yeah, he goes, that energy is like a lot. And I said, I know it's a lot. So I came here. He's

824
00:53:39,440 --> 00:53:46,480
like me too. So we start talking. He says he's from Chicago and my ex-husband who's still like one of

825
00:53:46,480 --> 00:53:51,600
my closest friends, that's a whole soul. We have such a soul contract. Anyway, he's George Chicago.

826
00:53:51,600 --> 00:53:56,240
So I said, I love Midwesterners because yeah, my ex is like the nicest person you've ever met in your

827
00:53:56,240 --> 00:54:01,840
life. The most honest, ethical. So we start talking about the Midwest. And then next thing I know,

828
00:54:01,840 --> 00:54:07,840
it's 40 minutes later. And he's like, here's my card on the head of Apple podcasts. And I would

829
00:54:07,840 --> 00:54:16,000
love to show you around the offices. Wow. Okay. But then I look at his card and it says,

830
00:54:16,000 --> 00:54:23,920
Culver City. And I said, wait a minute, my daughter goes to my oldest is in Kindergarten. And I said,

831
00:54:23,920 --> 00:54:30,080
it's on a street across from this black building that has valley parking and no sign on that building.

832
00:54:30,080 --> 00:54:34,720
And I've always wondered why are there like cool escalades and porches pulling up and there's no

833
00:54:34,720 --> 00:54:39,040
stuff. And he goes, that's out. I said, I'm going to be there tomorrow morning, dropping

834
00:54:39,040 --> 00:54:43,040
off. He goes, great, come have breakfast with me. I go have breakfast with the head of Apple.

835
00:54:43,040 --> 00:54:46,800
He sits me down. He goes, you're the best, you're the best person I met that whole conference

836
00:54:46,800 --> 00:54:52,880
because you weren't trying. And we start talking and we start having deep conversations.

837
00:54:52,880 --> 00:54:57,200
He goes, do you want to come with me to New York City? So he takes me to the podcast up front.

838
00:54:57,200 --> 00:55:03,760
He starts mentoring me within a year. My show had a million downloads. Okay. So the question is,

839
00:55:04,720 --> 00:55:10,640
is it working for you? Like holding the wheel and not giving it over and saying, no,

840
00:55:10,640 --> 00:55:15,200
no, there's God will be a miracle here. I'm here for the miracle. I'm here for the mystical. I'm here

841
00:55:15,200 --> 00:55:22,160
for the ease. I'm not here for this. Right. And so that's the question. Right. There's a book called

842
00:55:22,160 --> 00:55:27,360
the third door. My friend Alex Benayan wrote it and he interviewed Lady Gaga, Steven Spielberg,

843
00:55:27,360 --> 00:55:32,000
Warren Buffett, Maya Angelou. He interviewed all these people. And he called the book the third

844
00:55:32,000 --> 00:55:39,360
door because he said, every nightclub, everyone's waiting in line, waiting around the block. He goes,

845
00:55:39,360 --> 00:55:44,720
and the people I interviewed, they all did the same thing. They didn't wait in the line. They went

846
00:55:44,720 --> 00:55:50,480
in through the side door. But the side door, he said, it's always there. It's just you don't know,

847
00:55:50,480 --> 00:55:56,160
you're too scared to leave the line because everyone around you says, don't leave the line. You got

848
00:55:56,160 --> 00:55:59,200
work, work, work, work, work. You got to stand here, stand here, stand here. Where do you think

849
00:55:59,200 --> 00:56:05,040
you're going? Leave in this line. Leaving the line is trust. Leaving the line is, I don't need to be

850
00:56:05,040 --> 00:56:10,160
in the state of urgency. I'm going to bring it. I'm just going to go out, you know what God, you got this,

851
00:56:10,160 --> 00:56:15,600
the universe got this. I'm going to do my job, which is to be in the highest frequency, to tune that

852
00:56:15,600 --> 00:56:20,880
radio every day to trust, tune that radio to wholeness. And he talks about these people.

853
00:56:20,880 --> 00:56:27,440
Maya Angelou Steven still goes, everyone's same thing. But he said, the hardest part of the journey to

854
00:56:27,440 --> 00:56:34,560
the third door is leaving the line because of the fear because it's been programmed into you. That's

855
00:56:34,560 --> 00:56:40,400
what you're going to leave the conference. I literally left and walked out. And who was there on the

856
00:56:40,400 --> 00:56:45,440
other side? The head of Alpha Podcast because he walked out because we're on the same wavelength.

857
00:56:45,440 --> 00:56:50,640
And what did people say to you? You're like, I'm just on your wavelength. That's true. So are you

858
00:56:50,640 --> 00:56:58,480
trying to move through effort or through resonance? When you're at a certain resonance of, I mean, in 1998,

859
00:56:58,480 --> 00:57:06,000
I was 18. I was flying standby from New York City. It was my grandmother's 80th birthday in New York.

860
00:57:06,000 --> 00:57:10,640
And I was flying back to Florida State. And there was a stopover in Atlanta. And it was in snowstorm.

861
00:57:10,640 --> 00:57:14,880
It was February 3rd. I could knock it out of New York City. I was this flight, this flight. I kept

862
00:57:14,880 --> 00:57:19,520
missing flights. And then at one point, there was a couple. There was one, there was one seat. I was like,

863
00:57:19,520 --> 00:57:24,640
you could have it. I missed another flight. And then this woman goes, okay, you're the seventh person on

864
00:57:24,640 --> 00:57:29,440
this stand by list. I'm never getting out of here. And then it turned out they had one seat. And the

865
00:57:29,440 --> 00:57:33,520
six other people weren't a couple. And they did not want to split up. So she gave me the seat. I said,

866
00:57:33,520 --> 00:57:38,720
fine. Again, they were playing. They put me in first class. And I'm like, I've never flown first class.

867
00:57:38,720 --> 00:57:44,400
When I now, now I do. But then that was new. That was really cool. Who's sitting next to me?

868
00:57:46,800 --> 00:57:54,800
Number 23. Michael Jordan. Say next to me. Yeah. And he turns to me. And he's like, what's your story?

869
00:57:54,800 --> 00:57:58,640
I'm like, because we were waiting for two hours. They were deicing the plane. And he's like,

870
00:57:58,640 --> 00:58:05,200
story, I'm like, I'm in college. He's like, what are you dreaming of? And I sit there for two hours.

871
00:58:05,200 --> 00:58:12,320
There are no iPads at that time. Just me and MJ, the full flight tilt lineup. We get off the plane.

872
00:58:12,320 --> 00:58:20,720
He's going to some all start game. And I go, God makes all my appointments. Of course, I missed those five

873
00:58:20,720 --> 00:58:31,200
lights. Yeah. And there was a moment where I gave my seat to this other woman. Okay. Does it clock?

874
00:58:31,200 --> 00:58:38,560
Or does it knock? Totally. Yeah. Okay. I literally sat next to Michael Jordan. And it's like the two of us.

875
00:58:40,000 --> 00:58:45,760
People would pay anything for that. I wasn't even a basketball fan. I got back to Florida

876
00:58:45,760 --> 00:58:49,440
saved that night. My friend Andre, I remember I walked into the dining hall and I told the story.

877
00:58:49,440 --> 00:58:57,840
He dropped his tray. He was so angry. He's like, that is so weird. He's like, you know, I

878
00:58:57,840 --> 00:59:03,760
can be as weak as you. Oh my God. You don't even follow them. You know, the balls. I'm like, I know.

879
00:59:05,360 --> 00:59:11,760
I literally don't like. I mean, I'm like, low key fan. I was, you know, a total girl. I mean,

880
00:59:11,760 --> 00:59:16,480
I'm interested. He was like, I can't even hear this story. It makes me so angry.

881
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Right? That's a true story. That's facts. That's for seats. So you either get to be right and live from

882
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fear and hold on. Or you let go and you say, all right. Let's go. Let's play ball.

883
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All right. Kathy, let's go. Karen, let's go. Let's go. Let's go, man. I love it. I absolutely love it.

884
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We, I have so many other things I wanted to talk to you about perfectionism. I just want to listen.

885
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In fact, I almost said at the very beginning of the show, this is a show that you're going to hear

886
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very little from us because I just love your stories. No, I swear. I totally can't.

887
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Absolutely. Perfectionism is trauma response. The, I mean, so many, the opposite of depression

888
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is purpose. There's so much I wanted to talk to you about still. Cabala, but we didn't get a chance to.

889
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We're unfortunately. A lot of that. A lot of that is really in there, right? Ultimately. Yeah. Yeah.

890
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Because all this has to do with being a receiver, which is what Cabala is all about.

891
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And certainty, right? Our only job is to have that certainty that we are always at the right place

892
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at the right time. And letting go of the perfectionism is everything we're just talking about.

893
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Letting go of the need to do it a certain way and actually say, what would be the most fun thing I could

894
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do today? Because that's where I'm meant to be. But I'd love the fact you say it's a, it's a trauma

895
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response because it's so flipping through. It's so true. It's so true. It's just that conversation alone.

896
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I'm so shy we're never able to have, but I know that your book is out already. Tell us about it.

897
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I love writing it. This is this book. I mean, this is the heart cover of it. The

898
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song covers over there. And yeah, it's this tools for creating a life of prosperity and ease

899
01:01:00,400 --> 01:01:06,880
because it's about what I said, right? Leaving the conference as ease, right? And that's where all

900
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that is when you leave, when you actually move towards trust. So it's a really fun book. It has a lot

901
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of like tools and exercises in it. It teaches a lot about Cabala. And it'll make you really close

902
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to the divine. And yeah, I was really happy that. I mean, same thing. Like very inside baseball, my

903
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publisher Simon and Schuster was like, okay, what even do you do to hit the Neurotimes list? What

904
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are you going to do? They hit the USA Today list. I'm like, nothing. Like my soul's job was right in the book.

905
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Whatever's meant to happen. And it hit the USA Today bestseller list.

906
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Multiple times. Like when the card cover came out, when the software bring me out, I hit it again

907
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and again. And I was like, for me, it's like, the soul doesn't care about the outcome. It cares about

908
01:01:55,440 --> 01:02:01,760
showing up for the assignment. Because businesses, the outcome. So yeah, I don't get hooked into that

909
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ego stuff. I have to do this. That's not my job. That's not my job. Well, it's called the Bonda Never

910
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After if you're looking for it. And if you like the stories of Kathy tells you're going to love the

911
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book. So we're going to direct a direct link in our show notes so you can find it. But Kathy,

912
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someone wants to reach out to you. Oh, your podcast. Everything is energy. I've been listening to it for a

913
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while. It's a great show. If someone wanted to reach out to you and connect in some way, what's the

914
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best way for them to do that? You know what I'm so excited. Well, because this just happened

915
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literally yesterday. We built a new website, KathyHole.com, got an upgrade. And there's so much on it.

916
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There's like affirmations. You can just read and do it. Makes you feel like it changes your mood

917
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in 12 seconds. You can find my podcast there. I'm also on Instagram every day. Kathy.com.

918
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You know, I'm not haller, but I just love the new website. It came out yesterday. And I highly

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recommend people go look at it because it there's so much on there and the podcast and every,

920
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every, you know, ways you can work with me. Worktops. We're doing it. It's all at KathyHole.com.

921
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And Kathy's with us. Awesome. Hot off the presses. You're hurting here first. KathyHole.com.

922
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Our brand new website. Kathy, you are remarkable. Thank you so much for taking the time and talking to

923
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us today because this was so easy. I feel like I've been switched out of AM to FM. I just love that.

924
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And now we got made to leap to XM. That's a next step. All right, Kathy. Thank you. Thank you both so

925
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much. Thank you for being so loving and lovable and cute and hanging in there when I couldn't get

926
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the text to work. Yeah. Well, I think I think the tech is probably our fault. But thank you for being

927
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so grateful. No, it's top. And we really appreciate you taking time and it's very

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interesting to talk with us. My pleasure.